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@smarkmouth 09-02-2016 03:32 PM

Lucha Underground Season Three Discussion
 
While I knew that they had season three already filmed, I'm surprised that it'll be airing so soon. Next Wednesday, September 7th will be episode 1 of season 3 (though I'm sure many of us will only be getting around to watching it on Thursday).

I dunno if I'm as excited as I was between seasons 1 and 2. The finish of S02, as we all kinda discussed, was a little lackluster compared to the first. It's not to say season 2 was bad, but it just lacked the magic. Besides, season one was so special that it earned my loyalty. It would take some remarkably bad television on their part for me to tune out. A sophomore slump isn't going to stop me.

That being said, let's talk about the trailer.

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Well edited. Lot's of dramatic footage without giving away much of anything. Looks like some sort of Lucha Ska Band has joined the fight. The Worldwide Underground expands it's ranks, though I can't make out who that extra man is (not the best YouTube video ever). The story from the trailer that grabbed my attention the most was Son of Havoc fighting some sort of doppelganger.

The last shot worries me. I haven't read any confirming spoilers, but the writing on the wall has been there for Prince Puma to exit the show at some point. I really, really hope he's not just killed off by Vampiro in a backstage segment. That is unless, it's REALLY well done


I look forward to chatting LU with you guys once again!

(Season Two Discussion)

Lowdown 09-04-2016 09:07 PM

I've only seen a few episodes of season one, and the majority of season two. While I wouldn't want to see Puma leave, they have plenty of talent to go around. Plus, I'm interested to see the progression of Pentagon Dark. He's been the standout of LU since I've started watching.

A11oftheLights 09-08-2016 01:14 AM

Pretty confident after watching the first episode that Puma wont be written out. Dont know how to feel about where his story is heading but if it produces more scenes like that last one then i dont really care, Vampiro was amazing in that scene. They really have to just bite the bullet and make him an actual part of the show and get someone else into commentate because Vampiro is shit at commentating.

It was a pretty standard episode, Dario just pulling the strings left and right. They still have the same problem with matanza. He shouldnt be selling as much as he does if they are going to let the challenger have so much offense it should be about how everything son of havoc was doing was having no effect on matanza instead of how close Havoc was to winning. Cant wait for shredder to rock up as Dario's boss :lmao:

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Was that them writing Angelico out of everything or is he still just injured?

@smarkmouth 09-09-2016 02:50 PM

Holy shit! It's the Honky Tonk Man! Fun little cameo, I hope we see more of these. Maybe Cornette can pop up as a belligerent homeless man living outside the Temple.

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Originally Posted by A11oftheLights (Post 5569169)
Pretty confident after watching the first episode that Puma wont be written out. Dont know how to feel about where his story is heading but if it produces more scenes like that last one then i dont really care, Vampiro was amazing in that scene. They really have to just bite the bullet and make him an actual part of the show and get someone else into commentate because Vampiro is shit at commentating.

I still suspect this will be Ricochet's last season, but everything else here, I'm with you. Pairing up Vampiro and Puma was instantly fresh, and a strong showing by Vamp himself. Legitimately an intriguing storyline right off the bat. I don't dislike Vampire as a color commentator, but the inconsistency of his character at that booth is entirely indefensible.

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It was a pretty standard episode, Dario just pulling the strings left and right. They still have the same problem with matanza. He shouldnt be selling as much as he does if they are going to let the challenger have so much offense it should be about how everything son of havoc was doing was having no effect on matanza instead of how close Havoc was to winning.
Yeah, Matanza is full nerfed now. Frankly, he was painted into a corner from day one. Had they not nerfed him, there'd be nowhere for his character to go. It's not the strongest creative decision ever, but at least he's still a monster in a sense that he will take your best shot and be still standing.

Strong wrestling on the card. In fact, I'd say one of the best episodes of consecutive wrestling matches they've ever done. Kind of a dramatic decrease of lucha libre for lucha libres sake.

Marty having a somewhat prominent scene in episode 1 gives me some hope that they have significant plans for him this season.

So we'really going to have Catrina vs Ivelisse in the season finale. A better part of a full year to build the match (three years if you count the past two seasons). Strange decision. I like these two, but by and large they areally not Rock and Cena

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Cant wait for shredder to rock up as Dario's boss :lmao:
Nice! Dr. Claw came to mind, myself.




And finally,


Барбоса 09-09-2016 05:01 PM

Yeah, Matanza continues to look like a lucky punching bag champion. He should have dominated Son of Havoc, only to get caught with a snap big move and nearly get pinned, like how the Ivelisse/Mil Muertes match on the last season premier was booked.

I would also say that putting Son of Havoc straight into a title match after him getting screwed at UL2 was a bit strange. There was plenty of room to build him up as the next big underdog challenger who has been screwed by the boss, but now he has been beaten by the champion ans seemingly ineligible to challenge Matanza again.

I fancy Johnny Mundo to get the big belt this year. The worst kind of GotG cash in allowed by Dario would suit him down to the ground.

I still don't care about Sexy Star.

More Puma vs Mil? Why the hell not.

I can take or leave ever seeing Rey Mysterio win a match ever again but at least he is being played up as the king rather than as the underdog and at least the circumstances of his victory over Pentagon Dark played into the story around the latter not paying attention in the ring.

Back to the champ, there was and still is an opportunity to develop Matanza by exploring the question of what has he been doing between seasons while Dario has been in prison?

Who has been keeping him fed and watered while he was locked in his cell? If it was someone like Mascarita Sagrada, maybe Matanza becomes a little humanised. Or maybe Black Lotus or Dragon Azteca was starting to turn him against Dario.

Something like that might be a future story for Matanza as I am sure they want to keep him looking strong enough, if not necessarily champion, for when whomever Lord Dr Claw is.

A11oftheLights 09-17-2016 05:06 AM

Incredible episode. The amount of time spent out of the ring and in ring was very well balanced and every segment moved the story forward.

Really good main event. Wasnt a fan of striker pulling out war puns every 4 seconds but oh well. Killshot had to win. Which is why the addition of mariposa (probably spelt that horribly wrong) worked so well, i really thought they were going to screw him out of the win. You would assume that this story is finally concluded.

Really pumped for Puma v Mil II. I dont think I've been such a mark for someone as I am for Puma. If he simply squashed mascarita for a whole season i'd still tell you it was feud of the season.

The amulet. Where to begin. So much potential. What if the cop chick is actually Catrina when she uses the amulet or even just the journey to get the two halves together will be good. I'm willing to bet that Joey Ryan is trying to be a triple agent on dario. I would have loved if Castro had turned around and said he was going into business for himself. Wouldnt be a cop but would have dario breathing down his neck thinking he was

Lowdown 09-17-2016 06:55 PM

Just watched the latest episode earlier. While the first matches were squashes, I like how much time they gave Killshot and Moth. As for Puma and Mil, I suspect that Puma will come out on top. He looks to be on a road to redemption, and he needs to beat Mil in order to get back to the championship. Also, I wonder what role Joey Ryan is going to play now that he's in Dario's pocket, albeit reluctantly.

@smarkmouth 09-18-2016 11:16 AM

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Wasnt a fan of striker pulling out war puns every 4 seconds but oh well.

Beats him going "Beep beep beep beeeeeeeep" to build up the Flatliner. God. Awful.

I don't get why Mascarita was Doctor Wagner's squash. Wouldn't a better story be Mascarita pursuing revenge from Famous B? I'd prefer to see Wagner crush someone else, and Mascarita make the run in with his attack focused on Famous B. Maybe I'm expecting more commitment to the Mascarita character, but he was literally the only wrestler who had a full entrance this episode. I don't know what that says, if anything at all. Just an observation.

Mil Muertes squashes Argenis. Prince Puma jumps Mil. Vampiro plays up being bewildered. Excited to watch this develop, but I do dread one potential piece in this storyline; Puma has a new mentor in Vampiro, a man who absolutely hated his old mentor. Please, Lucha Underground, do not bring back Konnan!

Absolute spectacle of the main event! Marty's costume was on point, I loved him coming to the ring with a bullet vest. Killshot indeed had to win this, but I really want to see Marty pick up some momentum. No one, no one in Lucha Underground plays their character better, except for Dario Cueto. I will say the finish was a little forced (Marty sets up a table, tries propping Killshot on the opposite table instead), but the flying double foot stomp was well worth it. Epic. Finn Balor, love you, but eat your heart out!

My own theory on the amulet; Captain Vasquez and Catrina, like the amulet, are two halves of the same being. Something over the last millennia divided the Aztec daughter's soul in two, and now she's fighting both sides of the same war. Good and evil. Yin and yang.

And I have literally nothing to base that on other than wild accusation! :D

A11oftheLights 09-27-2016 12:44 AM

Cant really say i enjoyed this episode. While I did think that was Matanza's best match the rest of the show felt like a mess. The main event i have no idea what happened. Jack suddenly cracked the shits, PJ Black is just a nothing kind of guy and the trios champions still feel like they were thrown together because creative has nothing for them. Sexy star coming out doesnt help them either, she's just so bland. Cant understand why Mundo came out either he didnt give a shit about the match and should've been pissed off that Taya didnt support him.

Not really interested in a best of 5 series. Texano is great to watch but hasnt got the booking a guy like him deserves. Cage is so generic for me, he forces his line into every promo and just irks me. Neither man wins the big one either which is why I dont think the Ultimate opportunity will be for the championship and you know it will go the full 5...zzzz

Interested to see where Son of Havoc and mascarita goes but would have preferred that havoc to have called famous b

@smarkmouth 10-03-2016 10:29 AM

Been a busy week, finally caught up just Friday. Two episodes of Lucha and one NXT equated to a strange, uneven special.

I'm a big fan of Texano vs Cage in a best of five. There's something to be said about two hoss's going at it then fist bumping with smiles on their faces, as they did in round one. I like face-Cage as a wrestler, but yeah, his promos are weak. There was only one time that "... because I'm not a man..." was ever used in a grammatically correct fashion. While I'm expecting to enjoy this series, I understand fatigue over these two for several episodes, especially after a majority of us just watched Cesaro vs Sheamus for 8 dozen weeks. Nonetheless, Cueto's "Opportunities" are always excellent and intriguing. I hope Texano takes it.

I couldn't quite make it out on my own picture, but what were those photos he received in the mail? Were they in the same box that Famous B sent him? Who was that bozo he gave the photos away to? I'm confused.

I liked the Trios match, but I don't get why Jack Evans was a petulant child all of the sudden. He's flashy to a fault, but aren't all of the Worldwide Underground? Isn't that their thing?

The two highlights of the past two weeks (might have been the same episode, I can't remember) were Puma/Sinestro and Azteca/Chavo. These two matches were what make wrestling good; straight forward booking with understandable goals.

Puma plays his usual highlight reel, but with just enough new agression peppered in. It also helps that Vampiro and Matt were uncharacteristically... well.. good at their jobs in this match. They pointed out the little things that Puma was doing differently, and not once did it seem forced. Puma flatlines Sinestro, staring at Mil Muertes as he does so was awesome. Picture is worth a thousand words.

Azteca vs Chavo featured one of the best uses of a special guest referee in recent memory; yes, Rey Mysterio is aligned with Dragon Azteca Jr, but Rey had more to play with. He had solid, grounded reasons for not wanting his protege to win, wanting to protect Azteca from the "prize" of facing off with Pentagon Dark. Nonetheless, Chavo's hot headed nature gets the better of him, and Rey counts his shoulders down.

Kinda unfortunate though, is that even though Matanza is champion, the only one chasing him is Johnny Mundo. Meanwhile, Pentagon Dark has two people trying to get a go at him. They should have taken the belt off of Matanza at Ultima Lucha, they really should have.


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