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King Patrick Star 11-02-2016 11:58 AM

205 Live
 
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STAMFORD, Conn.,– A one-hour, in-ring program, 205 Live, showcasing WWE’s new Cruiserweight Division, will premiere Tuesday, November 29 at 10pm ET exclusively on WWE Network. The live weekly show will be called by Mauro Ranallo, the voice of SmackDown Live®, and Corey Graves, color commentator for Monday Night Raw®.

Coming off the success of WWE Network’s recent Cruiserweight Classic tournament and the formation of the new Cruiserweight Division, which airs exclusively on Monday Night Raw, 205 Live will feature Superstars that are 205 lbs. and under, including new Cruiserweight Champion Brian Kendrick™, as well as TJ Perkins™, Rich Swann™, Noam Dar, HoHo Lun™, Cedric Alexander™, Lince Dorado™, Gran Metallik™, Tozawa™, Jack Gallagher™, Gurv Sihra™ and Harv Sihra™.

“205 Live is a natural progression to showcase the depth of our roster,” said Paul “Triple H®” Levesque, WWE Executive Vice President, Talent, Live Events & Creative. “With world-class talent such as Brian Kendrick, TJ Perkins, and Rich Swann, 205 Live will be a must-see program on WWE Network.”

“With the addition of 205 Live to an already robust programming schedule, WWE continues to enhance the value of WWE Network for our subscribers,” said Michelle Wilson, WWE Chief Revenue & Marketing Officer. “We take pride in listening to our fans and delivering even more live, premium content that they are asking for.”
Now my questions are:
Will the Cruiserweight Division be removed from Raw??
What will happen to Talking Smack??
Where are the T.J. Perkins side plates!?

Navi 11-02-2016 01:54 PM

I only have to assume that they will come off RAW because what's the point of having the same two matches, two nights apart. This will either keep the division going or be the death of it completely.

Even though RAW is a 3 hour show, they can't for some reason showcase these guys properly, so give them their own show on the network and let it sink or swim. As for Perkins side plates, either that's an old picture of the belt, or they were in the middle of installing Kendrick's since he's the champ now.

In any case this just highlight's the problems that RAW is having be not even being able to put this division on their show properly. A three hour show that is viewed by some as being the worst of the two. Even though the brands have been split, we're seeing the same matches each week, and lot's of guys still aren't getting and TV time.

Also if you go to a SD live taping, don't you already get to see Main Event. Now you get that plus SD Live and the cruiserweight show. Not bad for the price of a ticket, and definitely worth it over a RAW ticket.

Jack-Hammer 11-02-2016 02:39 PM

I just read about this myself. The biggest question I have is what happens to Talking Smack? In my opinion, it's too damn interesting of a talk show to just let go by the wayside. However, seeing as how they're now going to start doing a similar show after Raw, maybe it's all part of some angle.

Giving the cruiserweights their own show could be interesting. I don't know if this means that the cruiserweights will no longer be part of Raw or what, maybe the 205 Live thing is part of moving the cruiserweights to being a joint brand venture since Mauro Ranallo & Corey Graves are doing commentary, which is a very nice plus in my opinion, as they normally work for different brands. Personally, I have more faith in the overall decisions and booking made for the blue brand than Raw, so if this also is able to focus on the personalities of the cruiserweights themselves, then all the better. There's a lot of untapped potential, Kendrick is really the only one with a set persona right now but there's already a lot of fans into Cedric Alexander and Rich Swann for their athleticism and the sheer energy they bring.

Oh, as to the side plates of the title while Perkins was champ, he never received any custom plates. I always sorta kept an eye on that and they simply stuck with the default side plates, which in & of itself didn't strike me as a positive sign of how Vince feels towards the division.

King Patrick Star 11-02-2016 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Navi (Post 5602191)
I only have to assume that they will come off RAW because what's the point of having the same two matches, two nights apart. This will either keep the division going or be the death of it completely.

Even though RAW is a 3 hour show, they can't for some reason showcase these guys properly, so give them their own show on the network and let it sink or swim. As for Perkins side plates, either that's an old picture of the belt, or they were in the middle of installing Kendrick's since he's the champ now.

In any case this just highlight's the problems that RAW is having be not even being able to put this division on their show properly. A three hour show that is viewed by some as being the worst of the two. Even though the brands have been split, we're seeing the same matches each week, and lot's of guys still aren't getting and TV time.

Also if you go to a SD live taping, don't you already get to see Main Event. Now you get that plus SD Live and the cruiserweight show. Not bad for the price of a ticket, and definitely worth it over a RAW ticket.

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Originally Posted by Jack-Hammer (Post 5602203)
I just read about this myself. The biggest question I have is what happens to Talking Smack? In my opinion, it's too damn interesting of a talk show to just let go by the wayside. However, seeing as how they're now going to start doing a similar show after Raw, maybe it's all part of some angle.

Giving the cruiserweights their own show could be interesting. I don't know if this means that the cruiserweights will no longer be part of Raw or what, maybe the 205 Live thing is part of moving the cruiserweights to being a joint brand venture since Mauro Ranallo & Corey Graves are doing commentary, which is a very nice plus in my opinion, as they normally work for different brands. Personally, I have more faith in the overall decisions and booking made for the blue brand than Raw, so if this also is able to focus on the personalities of the cruiserweights themselves, then all the better. There's a lot of untapped potential, Kendrick is really the only one with a set persona right now but there's already a lot of fans into Cedric Alexander and Rich Swann for their athleticism and the sheer energy they bring.

Oh, as to the side plates of the title while Perkins was champ, he never received any custom plates. I always sorta kept an eye on that and they simply stuck with the default side plates, which in & of itself didn't strike me as a positive sign of how Vince feels towards the division.

I believe the Cruiserweights will be removed from Raw, but like you both said, they should have been able to give them proper focus. I think the first hour of Raw could have been 205 Live, without the corny name. How about CWC, which could stand for CruiserWeight Championship?? It’s not that great, but it’s better than 205 Live.

WWE SuperStars replaced WWE Heat and is taped before Raw. WWE Main Event replaced WWE Velocity and is taped before Smackdown.

Talking Smack is moving to 11 PM, from what I’ve been told.

I actually wanted Filipino Flag side plates, because I’m Filipino-American, but if they added a TJP logo, I wouldn’t mind that either.

One day…


Face McShooty 11-02-2016 04:55 PM

This may be what the cruiserweights need to actually be able to showcase what they need.

It's not a surprise to anyone that RAW has royally screwed up the entire division so what I'm hoping is they get taken off RAW entirely and a exclusively on this new show like it should have been since the beginning. This way they can hopefully flesh out the division and use it as a type of CW developmental and the entire division moves up to Smackdown after all the kinks get worked out on the Network

Shocky 11-02-2016 05:44 PM

I asked Mauro on Twitter if the Cruisers will be at Smackdown, his reply was yes.

It's a step in the right direction, but ultimately will be another misfire. The assumption will be, Smackdown goes off the air, ring and arena are immediately transformed for the 205 Live show. Assuming an individual came to Smackdown, they've already sat through 3 hours of that broadcast, -and likely watched the Main Event taping. They've been sitting for three hours, and experienced the high of a Smackdown main event match (no pun intended), now you're asking the live audience to sit for another hour for a bunch of characters they have no interest in. They've likely paid for Cena, Ambrose or Styles. Hopefully they tape 205 Live before the Smackdown broadcast, even though it's not technically Live, I'll forgive them.

Ultimately the CW show should move to Full Sail University, and be apart of the Wednesday night block. I'm all for the CWs to get away from Dunn and the nightmare of over production and Kevin Dunn, but it shouldn't be an arena show. And they most certainly should not sacrifice my beloved Talking Smack.

George Steele's Barber 11-02-2016 06:00 PM

Why not make a storyline out of this? Have the Cruiserweights get frustrated and jump ship from Steph to DB's show. They have been so uninteresting and here WWE is making a business decision and have an opportunity to make it interesting and all it amounts to is a fucking announcement. Why not have DB steal the Cruiserweights and build heat between the shows. Maybe have Strowman give some of them a beatdown on their last broadcast. Granted they will technically not be on SD but they will be competing on a show that is adjacent to SD. And on top of that, play off the fact that somehow they are taking some of Graves' time as well. Oh well, maybe this will all be taped as part of Raw.

But really who cares? Just more fucking content that I can't keep up with in the first place. The women are the ones who deserve their own brand (beside Total Divas) and show although I would hate to see them relegated to the WWE Network exclusively.

I thought putting them on Raw would be a nice addition. Since they showed up I haven't really cared. TJ Perkins is about as riveting as paste. I won't miss their existence.

enviousdominous 11-03-2016 11:44 AM

I'm such a casual fan these days, I swear. I was going nuts trying to figure out why the status of Talking Smack was being questioned, it took me a while to connect the dots on that one.

This is what they should have done in the first place. It's a bit silly now that they've already pretended as if the Cruiserweights could be a valid addition to Raw. They were a side-show on Raw; a distraction at their worst and comic relief at their best. There weren't any significant story lines, just "By the way, Cruiserweights!" It didn't feel any different than when the WWE introduced the Smackdown Juniors Division.

I'll be sure to watch, I think I'd appreciate the Cruiserweights more if they were on a show that is solely focused on them. I thoroughly enjoyed the Cruiserweight Classic, and I hope this show will be as good.

Jack-Hammer 11-03-2016 01:20 PM

The WON is reporting that Talking Smack will continue to air, it'll just take place an hour later following 205 Live.

The report further states that despite 205 Live happening as par of SmackDown Live, the Cruiserweight Division will remain exclusively to Raw and that there have been rumors of the blue brand getting its own division for months.

Going by this, if accurate, it seems that Raw will still feature cruiserweight matches though, generally speaking, they're ultimately used as filler. 205 Live will also feature matches, of course, but seems to be where the cruiserweights will ultimately be given focused storylines and characters.

Wouldn't it simply make more sense to just put the division on SmackDown Live where the blue brand show itself could play a part in helping develop the storylines & characters alongside 205 Live? It just strikes me as more convenient but it's ultimately down to what God Emperor Vince wants.

Khalifa 11-03-2016 06:45 PM

I was actually going to make a thread on if anyone thought the Cruiserweights should get their own show two days ago. First off before I even start, why the hell do the ropes get changed to purple for these guys? It's basically saying that they are different to everyone else (which they are, but this is more in a bad way). The women don't even have their ropes changed.

Anyways, everyone was frothing on the idea of the Cruiserweights coming back at one point before they actually showed up. There was optimism that the WWE could actually pull it off this time so why not prove everyone right and give them their own show like NXT gets. Basically that's the vibe I get when the Cruiserweights come out because they don't even wrestle in the same ring colours or lighting as anyone else on the roster. You've got enough people to make an hour show, develop everyone's character and see where it goes. If it doesn't work out then the division is probably dead then and you save money on cutting heaps of people. Seriously though why not give it a try?

The only problem I see with it is that you would force superstars to Bron the cruiserweight show that could be on the main roster or you could put someone on the main roster and everyone wanted them on he cruiserweight roster to start off with. Apart from that you get a good gauge on if people will actually give the cruiserweight division another try.


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