Candice Michelle Fired... Because of her Weight?

[Tenta]

The PWTorch.com Newsletter is reporting that former WWE diva Candice Michelle fell out of favor with WWE management because of her weight when she worked out in the ring last month in Los Angeles.

I must say, I usually understand that the WWE has a reasoning behind any wrester being fired. But honestly, this is fucking apalling to me.

What are you telling all of the women who watch this show, and all of the women employees that work for you? That if you start to gain a little weight, you'll wind up just like Ms. Michelle here. I'll be the first to admit, I wasn't the hugest fan of Candice when she wrestled. But there's no way she should be fired because of her weight. If she was morbidly obese, and they released her under the terms that they would help her lose weight, then I suppose I'd understand. But Jesus, the last time I saw Candice on TV, she didn't look bad enough to be fired.

And this isn't the first time I've been apalled... There was the angle of Vickie being the "pig" that, looking back at, was extremely mean. What exactly is the WWE telling women? And why should the employees of WWE be treated to such horrible lengths? I mean, Jesus Christ, this revolting. You gain fifteen pounds, and we're going to let you go? I understand how important the Diva's looks are, but God, it's not like Candice had a problem.

I feel WWE is completely wrong on this matter. Good luck convincing me otherwise. And God spare your soul if you try.

Mods, be forewarned. I very likely will be banned for letting lose on someone here.

[NightShiftLoser]

Look...I'm not a fan of her either, and I don't agree with the reasoning here, but you need to look at it from WWE's perspective. They're selling the Divas as sex symbols, and no one wants to have sex with this:

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/specials/gallery10/1.jpg

I know looks don't affect how she is in the ring, or how good of a person she is, but they need to pay attention to what the fans want. No one (except Ech), liked her in the ring before, and they certainly won't like her in the ring like that. They fired Cherry for the same reason, and she wasn't nearly as unattractive. I doubt she's the last victim either of this. If Kelly, Maryse, Melina, or even Layla started packing on the pounds, I'm sure Vince would cut them loose too.

[Tenta]

Look at it through their perspective? Their marketing to fucking kids, anyway, NSL. Jesus, man, don't buy into this bullshit. What do they care about Sex, if they're marketing to fucking kids? Kids don't worry if someone gains an extra fifteen pounds. And what does that tell them? Treat the girl who gained a few pounds differently? That she's not same person she used to be? You can't tell me you see anything right in such a firing. I don't care if she can't work, NSL, because the fact is that she was never able to work.

And they still kept her, NSL. They made her a fucking Woman's Champion. Yeah, I get it, Sex Sells. But don't fall into the chauvanistic pig's train of thought that seems to cloud the boys in Stamfords minds. Candice may have a bit of weight, but do ypu mean to tell me that it wouldn't have a lasting effect on women who watch? And what about the women that work for WWE, and put up with this bullshit? What are they suppose to feel like right now?

I understand what you're saying if they did fire her because of her work NSL. But please, don't become like the swine at WWE headquarters. I like you NSL. But you are so fucking in the wrong here.

[Dewey.]

I generally didn't dislike her look before, but I never really paid attention to her, either. But to say she was cut soley for her weight gain is, in my opinion, incredibly naive. Look at Mickey, she hasn't exactly been watching the pounds, but she can at least work without getting injured every other match. Which brings me to why I say she was released: Candice Michelle is injury prone. Just like Kennedy. Although, Candice's weight is a little off putting. I'll leave it at that.

[NightShiftLoser]

Look at it through their perspective? Their marketing to fucking kids, anyway, NSL. Jesus, man, don't buy into this bullshit. What do they care about Sex, if they're marketing to fucking kids?

Please don't tell me you're that naiive. If they were marketing to kids, would they have women like Maryse, Kelly, or Michelle near the title scene? Or prancing around in practically nothing?

Kids don't worry if someone gains an extra fifteen pounds. And what does that tell them? Treat the girl who gained a few pounds differently? That she's not same person she used to be?

Again, if Vince was really worried about kids, would he have had Stone Cold crucified? Or, "killed" himself twice on TV? Or, how about Kane nearly raping Kelly Kelly? I'm sure kids are more scarred by that. And, I doubt there's 6 and 7 year olds surfing the net for the latest WWE news, and getting upset she got fat and fired.

You can't tell me you see anything right in such a firing. I don't care if she can't work, NSL, because the fact is that she was never able to work. And they still kept her, NSL. They made her a fucking Woman's Champion.

Exactly my point. All she had going for her, were her looks. Now that they're gone, why should Vince keep her around? It's not like she's jobless now either. She still has the GoDaddy gig, and I'm sure Cinemax would take her back in a heartbeat for some more softcore porn.

Also, when was the last time the Women's Championship meant anything? '95?

Yeah, I get it, Sex Sells.

So, why did you start this thread?

But don't fall into the chauvanistic pig's train of thought that seems to cloud the boys in Stamfords minds. Candice may have a bit of weight, but do ypu mean to tell me that it wouldn't have a lasting effect on women who watch?

I'm sure her fans are more upset that they won't get to see her hurt herself every other match, than upset that she got canned because her ass grew a few inches. The women that watch, also watch for the good looking guys. More women would be upset at Jeff Hardy getting fired, then upset over this.

And what about the women that work for WWE, and put up with this bullshit? What are they suppose to feel like right now?

Money talks. Sex sells. As long as they stay the way they are, they have nothing to worry about. There's no other way to explain some of them still having a job. If this were about wrestling, we'd see some real matches, and a lot less of what we have for the last few months/years.

I understand what you're saying if they did fire her because of her work NSL. But please, don't become like the swine at WWE headquarters. I like you NSL. But you are so fucking in the wrong here.

You have the right to your opinion, and I won't try to change it. I don't think the reason they fired her is right, but they have a business to run. Sex sells. you said it yourself. Not fat chicks in spandex, wrestling semi-hot plastic chicks in similar spandex.

[Mighty NorCal]

Who gives a shit if she gained weight? So she is fired, but Mickie James is kept? Jus sayin. Not that I care if she stays or goes, I couldnt care less, but at least fire her for being terrible at everything, not for adding on a few pounds. Ridiculous.

[NightShiftLoser]

Who gives a shit if she gained weight? So she is fired, but Mickie James is kept? Jus sayin. Not that I care if she stays or goes, I couldnt care less, but at least fire her for being terrible at everything, not for adding on a few pounds. Ridiculous.

^^^

I agree with this. She should've been fired because she was a hazard to herself, and anyone that stepped in the ring with her. Saying she was fired because she's fat is wrong, but no one made a fuss when they canned Cherry for the same exact reason. Mickie's situation is slightly different, at least concerning weight. She's been about the same size since she started in the company, and has been wearing less revealing clothing for the last few years. Candice started as tall and skinny, and has quickly become cellulite pouring out of the holes in her pants.

Again, I don't agree it was right, but I can see how Vince made the decision.

[Tenta]

I generally didn't dislike her look before, but I never really paid attention to her, either.

Neither did I, but you have to admit, this is really disturbing to hear coming from the WWE

But to say she was cut soley for her weight gain is, in my opinion, incredibly naive.

The reasoning given is that she they weren't happy with her weight. If it was because of her work, they would have released her a long time ago. And just coming off that horrific angle with Vickie Guerrero, I'm far more inclined to say that this is the pig portion of the WWE at work here. This isn't exactly uncommon of the WWE; they have a history of being extremely crass to their women. You're talking about the same company in which the owner has been on screen, in a relationship with a good percent of the Divas


Look at Mickey, she hasn't exactly been watching the pounds, but she can at least work without getting injured every other match.

I'll admit, there's a portion of it that follows being able to work. Mickie can work, and Vince needs her. Otherwise, you can bet she'd cut her, too.


Which brings me to why I say she was released: Candice Michelle is injury prone. Just like Kennedy. Although, Candice's weight is a little off putting. I'll leave it at that.

Off putting? Buffy, it's not like she's fat! This is the problem I have with the media. You really think she's fat, Buffy? Jesus, how much of a skewed vision of woman do you have? Are you really that disillusioned?

Did injuries play some role? Perhaps. But if that was the case, she would have been released within her injuries. They have no problem doing such a thing. Ask the aforementioned Kennedy. Vince let's go injured people. So I really don't buy that.

[Tenta]

Who gives a shit if she gained weight? So she is fired, but Mickie James is kept? Jus sayin. Not that I care if she stays or goes, I couldnt care less, but at least fire her for being terrible at everything, not for adding on a few pounds. Ridiculous.

NorCal, there have been too many incidents recently for me to think this had anything to do with anything but her weight. Again, I'll sight that Vickie Guerrero angle. The WWE tends to have the pattern of looking down upon women that are different looking, or have a bit of girth. Bertha Faye, anyone?

My question is this; sure, fire her because she's terrible. But why does the WWE insist on having such a piggish nature to it's programming?

[NightShiftLoser]

And just coming off that horrific angle with Vickie Guerrero, I'm far more inclined to say that this is the pig portion of the WWE at work here.

Everything they did with Vickie, was wrong, so don't apply what I say to her situation.

As far as it being the "pig portion", I'm not sure I agree 100%. I agree partly, because it is a dick move to make a move like that, for that reason, but they do have a business to run. With ratings slipping, major stars missing a lot of time, and all the creative problems they're having, they need to watch their backs, and do everything possible to help their ratings.

Are you going to stop watching because of this? Probably not. Would someone stop watching if they saw Candice's new ass flopping around the ring? Probably. One viewer lost is too much for them. They're playing the odds, and doing what they can to keep their fanbase.

[Tenta]

Everything they did with Vickie, was wrong, so don't apply what I say to her situation.

As far as it being the "pig portion", I'm not sure I agree 100%. I agree partly, because it is a dick move to make a move like that, for that reason, but they do have a business to run. With ratings slipping, major stars missing a lot of time, and all the creative problems they're having, they need to watch their backs, and do everything possible to help their ratings.

Are you going to stop watching because of this? Probably not. Would someone stop watching if they saw Candice's new ass flopping around the ring? Probably. One viewer lost is too much for them. They're playing the odds, and doing what they can to keep their fanbase.


NSL, tell me.... Did you find the "pig" angle funny? Or were you uncomforted by it, and did you find it hard to sit through? I know for me, it was far more the latter. I saw what you said about Candice's "cellulite".... I understand wrestling fans aren't cultured, but is that how we honestly want to atrract fans? Cut the ugly ones, or the ones with some excess weight? What does that fucking tell kids, NSL?

I have the feeling that anyone that stops watching because of a wrestler with excess weight is someone I don't want watching my show. It's fans like us that give us such a fucking bad name, NSL. This is why people think us fans are sideshow freaks. Because of bull shit like this

[NightShiftLoser]

NSL, tell me.... Did you find the "pig" angle funny? Or were you uncomforted by it, and did you find it hard to sit through?

Honestly, I wasn't watching WWE then, so I can't answer this. Also, because it involved Santina, I probably would have changed the channels anyway.

I know for me, it was far more the latter. I saw what you said about Candice's "cellulite".... I understand wrestling fans aren't cultured, but is that how we honestly want to atrract fans? Cut the ugly ones, or the ones with some excess weight? What does that fucking tell kids, NSL?

Again, I'm sure kids aren't surfing the net, looking up latest news on WWE's releases, and seeing she got fired for her fat ass. WWE is still marketed towards 18-40 year olds, and as soon as Vince remembers that, he'll be better off. This is also the same man that wouldn't show his daughter from the waist down, because she just had a baby. You need to remember who you're talking about here. The only people that know she got fired for being fat, are people old enough to know better.

I have the feeling that anyone that stops watching because of a wrestler with excess weight is someone I don't want watching my show. It's fans like us that give us such a fucking bad name, NSL. This is why people think us fans are sideshow freaks. Because of bull shit like this

These are exactly the people that Vince wants watching. Don't you get that? People that will willingly buy anything he puts out, and will eat up every storyline like he's re-writing the bible. I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying it's Vince, and should be expected.

[Dewey.]

Let's say for the sake of argument that she was, indeed, fired for her weight gain (which, by the way, I don't buy for a second, mostly cause the Torch reported it, and they're nothing but a glorified dirt sheet). Looking at it from a promoter's point of view, and that's what Vince is above all else, you have somebody who's been off for an extended time, and they show up to a taping looking like they hadn't put forth any effort whatsoever to stay in shape. How would you handle that? Politely point out that they should consider hitting the gym, maybe do a few situps and crunches? Or, as a promoter, would you view them as being lazy, and not giving a flying fuck that they are even lucky to be there, while others are slaving away in Tampa chomping at the bit for her spot? She obviously didn't care enough to stay in shape, hell, she should have come back looking like Natty and Beth Phoenix.

As an aside, I didn't mean to insinuate she's fat, because she's not. I actually like chicks with a little meat, but the key is proportion. Her weight gain was all in the stomach area, an obvious sign of her slacking off in her weight training, which would indicate laziness.

[tLight]

I think its because she went from crack head skinny, to jello belly. Either way her being fired for her weight doesnt really matter.

She sucked, end of story.

[48/7]

Look, when Divas sign a contract I'm sure there is at least a verbal agreement that she will maintain a certain weight and appearance. If Candice was gaining weight and really looked at chunky as NightShiftLoser posted, then I can completely see the reason behind her release.

When you say they're marketing to children, I think they're targeting the 10-14 year old range. Obviously, they are not targeting six year olds. Six year old are still watching PBS kids a lot of the time. I'm sure some of you will say, "Well I was watching wrestling at four!", but that is typically because you watched with your dad. Now, they are targeting new fans. Kids that age (10-14) are starting to, or have found, an interest in girls and hormones are raging. They'll be very interested in the most beautiful children on television. I would have had no interest in a flabby, plastic Candice Michelle.

But it sends the kids the wrong message! No! It doesn't. If you want to get down to it, it shows kids that you need to work hard to maintain a suitable appearance for your line of work. If Kobe Bryant gained fifteen pounds in the offseason and could not preform up to par, then would any of you cry about how he's been unfairly terminated? He's still the same, good person after all. Besides, it doesn't even matter what the kids think. What child who isn't old enough to understand this will be on the internet looking at articles on PWI.com? Be serious.

Candice Michelle was never any good. She was pushed for Playboy and for being the Go-Daddy Girl. Her in ring skills were atrocious, she had no charisma, and once she lost her looks, she had nothing. There is no reason to keep her.

[scr3wy]

She fact of the matter is this, she wasn't fired for being fat. She was fired for being USELESS. All the opportunities to work better, and STILL fucks up. That's why Kennedy was fired (although that was a misunderstanding) She's a bad worker, and proof positive that a contest winner does not a wrestler make.

[48/7]

Who gives a shit if she gained weight? So she is fired, but Mickie James is kept? Jus sayin. Not that I care if she stays or goes, I couldnt care less, but at least fire her for being terrible at everything, not for adding on a few pounds. Ridiculous.

The difference between her and Mickie James is that James is a crowd favorite, is one of the few divas that can work a solid match, and her stomach isn't really flabby. She has a bit of a tummy, but it's cute. Candice's, from the picture above, isn't.

[blair4107]

What did Candice Michelle have left in the WWE anyway? Everyone complained when she had the title that it should be about real wrestlers not models; now the model gets fired and everyone complains?

You complain about chauvinism? This is wrestling: no matter what the target age demographic, the target sex will always be male. Do you think the View is considering their heterosexual male demographic much?
http://s.bebo.com/app-image/7934048128/5411656627/PROFILE/i.quizzaz.com/img/q/u/08/04/12/Candice_Michelle.jpg
Hmm, looks like a model to me. OH yeah, she IS a model. When a model gets fat what happens? She gets cut.

Also just look at the "Divas" they currently have, with Maryse and Eve Torres you already basically have Candice's gimmick in Maryse and most of her looks in Eve. Let's be honest, Maryse is the French Candice Michelle and even hotter.

To believe for any moment that the WWE Diva Criteria is about talent as opposed to looks is truly naive.

[Diablosbomb]

Weren't there talks of releasing her soon anyway? I'm pretty sure i read somewhere, probably here on wrestlezone, that they were gonna use her to put over like a new diva or someone than get rid of her anyway because she was horrible and kept hurting herself. It is wrong if the weight was the only reason they got rid of her, but I have a feeling it was just the reason they got rid of her sooner than they were going to anyway.

[CKguy217]

I thought she got cut mainly because of being to injury prone. Seriously, she was like the female version of Kennedy. A broken collar bone, two broken noses, and probably a couple other things all within like a 3 year time period.

[Chris in SC]

The weight may have been icing on the cake (pun intended).

But she needed to go anyway...injury prone and was starting to look a bit weird with too much lip-injections (like Jillian). And yes, right or wrong, looks matter.

Honestly, have you really missed her being on TV lately? For me the answer is a resounding 'No'.

[dta2324]

her weight huh.......how about the fact that she was always out...sucked in the ring and wasnt a draw.....your weight argument holds no water....take a look at mickie james....20lbs heavier than she was a yr ago and still climbing.....and she is getting pushed right now in a program with Maryse.....also the biggest women of them all in the wwe up until 2 weeks ago was the raw gm....and did her job well....so people not getting positions or pushed or keeping their jobs cause of weight is a joke.......just take a look at mickie and vickie guerrero. get a grip.

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

I'm not sure if it's true, but I did hear reports that WWE fired Candice Michelle over her weight gain. If this is indeed true, then I feel that the WWE has hit an all-time low. I know that Candice was probably not the best diva on the roster, but she worked her ass off to improve. If you looked at her in the later part of her career, then you see that she was greatly improving. Candice's weight should not have been a factor for her release. For a person like Candice, who has such a huge desire to entertain us, I'm sure that she would have worked out even harder to get back in shape. And it's not like WWE needed her to return as soon as possible. Smackdown had contenders for the Women's Championship, and if given time, Candice could have gotten back in shape and gotten ready to return by September at the latest.

[HBK-aholic]

If she was fat, or overweight in any way, then I'm morbidly obese. Candice Michelle was in NO way fat at all. FFS if Umaga, Big Show and Mark Henry still have jobs in the business, she should. She was no where near the worst female in the business, a compliment seeings as my views on the womens division are incredibly negative. I've never really been annoyed at something about the WWE, but if this is true it's disgusting.

[HypnotizedHero2010]

if she had any true wrestling tallent like mickey and natalia then she wouldn't have been cut. the weight gain is not the noly reason. shes also injury prone and cant wrestle plain and simple. i guess the weight was the final straw. but if your a diva then you have to look good. no one wants an awsome kong in the womes division right??

[TM]

http://www.wildsamoan.com/Rikishi.gif

Rikishi Fatu. Once a prized member of the talent roster of the WWE. Then he was released. The reason he was released? Gained weight. The WWE roster is a set of characters. The characters in an entertainment company must sell their acting. Actors must sell their bodies as props. If a actor loses that ability, they should no longer be paid to perform. Candice Michelle, just like Rikishi fit that mold. If she was fired because of weight loss, it is because she no longer could sell her body as a prop. Candice Michelle is just like Rikishi and these men:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/Bios/rosey.jpg

http://slam.canoe.ca/WrestlingImages/yoko.jpg

They had weight problems. Other big men have a job because that is what the WWE tries to sellt hem as, Mark Henry is The Silver Back, and he has to be large for it. However, if they are too big, and the WWE still believes they have a reason, they are told to lose weight. Like The Big Show did, unfortunately, he gained lots of it back.

[Franchize1990]

Look...I'm not a fan of her either, and I don't agree with the reasoning here, but you need to look at it from WWE's perspective. They're selling the Divas as sex symbols, and no one wants to have sex with this:

http://www.wrestling-edge.com/specials/gallery10/1.jpg

I know looks don't affect how she is in the ring, or how good of a person she is, but they need to pay attention to what the fans want. No one (except Ech), liked her in the ring before, and they certainly won't like her in the ring like that. They fired Cherry for the same reason, and she wasn't nearly as unattractive. I doubt she's the last victim either of this. If Kelly, Maryse, Melina, or even Layla started packing on the pounds, I'm sure Vince would cut them loose too.


No disrespect NSL, but I could find millions of people who would want to have sex with that, myself included :icon_smile:. I'm pretty sure Candice wasn't let go only for her weight gain. If so, that would be a terrible move by the WWE, imo. Like many have said in this thread before, she was probably released due to being injury prone and I'm not sure many people wanted to see her a whole lot anymore.

[Black Snow]

I find it hard to believe that she was fired because of her weight. It's more plausible that the weight was a result of the real reason she was let go. She was injured for so much of the last two years. Anyone who is forced to sit on their ass for that long is going to gain a few pounds. If the WWE thought Candice would remain healthy and was a very talented wrestler than they would have forgiven the weight and given her a little time to drop it.

But when you already suck at wrestling and it's impossible for you to remain healthy the fact that you're gaining weight ends up becoming (no pun intended) the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Cheech 72]

I think thats nonsense she was fired because of weight gain because she hasn't really done that much for WWE anyway. It's the playboy curse, I'm just waiting for Maria to be the next talentless diva to get the axe as well. It's like when Jessica Simpson gained weight everyone gave her shit but she is paid to sing and look good not to be a damn rocket scientist. I don't condone WWE anyways after how they have treated a lot of their talent men and women. WWE needs to stop treating women as sex symbols and start treating them as wrestlers which will never happen. I strongly believe that Candice along with the other divas were given the pink slip because WWE had nothing for them anymore.

[Echelon]

Candice let go for being too fat? Yeah no... WWE has used this excuse before. Whenever they release a diva for whatever reason they either say said diva was too fat or they weren't pretty enough to be used on camera.

That being said, considering the real reason why she was most likely fired: for being a liability to herself in the ring (injured herself twice in the span of a year), and given her position on the female roster, her injuries more than likely screwed up and altered a good 6 months to a years worth of storylines, feuds, and angles for the women's division.

So whats worse... Being fired for being too fat, or being fired for being a liability and for being blamed for the women's division on RAW having no real direction or storylines for the past year? I think the latter is much worse.

Candice can always lose any weight she supposedly gained, but her reputation wouldn't be fixed as easily if the latter had been the reason she was fired for.

[RVDgurl]

If she was fat, or overweight in any way, then I'm morbidly obese. Candice Michelle was in NO way fat at all. FFS if Umaga, Big Show and Mark Henry still have jobs in the business, she should. She was no where near the worst female in the business, a compliment seeings as my views on the womens division are incredibly negative. I've never really been annoyed at something about the WWE, but if this is true it's disgusting.

I was thinking the same thing! I haven't seen Candice lately, but the pic that NSL posted wasn't that terrible. So she has a little bit of belly flab, so do 99% of the women in the world. Like you have stated, there are plenty of male wrestlers who are fucking disgusting to look at and they will continue to be employed. I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time I see Mark Henry and Samoa Joe may wear the same bra size as me.

This is just another example of why the WWE women's division is looked at by most as a complete joke. The WWE shouldn't even bother to train their women to wrestle. Just hook them up with a personal trainer, a personal chef and a good plastic surgeon.

[48/7]

I'm not sure if it's true, but I did hear reports that WWE fired Candice Michelle over her weight gain. If this is indeed true, then I feel that the WWE has hit an all-time low. I know that Candice was probably not the best diva on the roster, but she worked her ass off to improve. If you looked at her in the later part of her career, then you see that she was greatly improving. Candice's weight should not have been a factor for her release. For a person like Candice, who has such a huge desire to entertain us, I'm sure that she would have worked out even harder to get back in shape. And it's not like WWE needed her to return as soon as possible. Smackdown had contenders for the Women's Championship, and if given time, Candice could have gotten back in shape and gotten ready to return by September at the latest.

Candice has had since OCTOBER when she was injured. It's been nine months. If she hasn't put in the effort to maintain the look she was hired in the first place for, then she has no place on the roster. Divas are here for one purpose: their looks. They all know this when they sign on the dotted line, and they are sure to know the consequence for not looking the way they are supposed to. If Candice really wanted to stay in shape, she could have. She's had time, and she failed to meet the expectations. If I have a quota at work and am given ample time to meet it, knowing the consequences full well, if I don't, then I should be cut. It's simple.

If she was fat, or overweight in any way, then I'm morbidly obese. Candice Michelle was in NO way fat at all. FFS if Umaga, Big Show and Mark Henry still have jobs in the business, she should. She was no where near the worst female in the business, a compliment seeings as my views on the womens division are incredibly negative. I've never really been annoyed at something about the WWE, but if this is true it's disgusting.

The WWE Divas are supposed to be the most beautiful women on television. No one wants to look at half-naked women in the ring with chunky, flabby stomachs. It's not disgusting for her to be released, it's logical. I'm telling you all, that she knew exactly the look she was required to maintain and she did not maintain it.

Umaga, Big Show, and Mark Henry are men. They aren't being used as eye candy. And, if I recall, Big Daddy V, Yokozuna, Rikishi, The Big Show, and other big men have been let go or told to take time off to deal with weight issues. This isn't just an issue for women, but they do have a higher standard to meet.

I was thinking the same thing! I haven't seen Candice lately, but the pic that NSL posted wasn't that terrible. So she has a little bit of belly flab, so do 99% of the women in the world.

But only .0000000000000000000000000000001% of the women in the world are WWE divas. It's not acceptable for them.

Like you have stated, there are plenty of male wrestlers who are fucking disgusting to look at and they will continue to be employed.

Vince McMahon doesn't sign them to look sexy.

I throw up in my mouth a little bit every time I see Mark Henry and Samoa Joe may wear the same bra size as me.

What size is that?

This is just another example of why the WWE women's division is looked at by most as a complete joke. The WWE shouldn't even bother to train their women to wrestle. Just hook them up with a personal trainer, a personal chef and a good plastic surgeon.

I agree. They should do those things because the women would always look the part, which is what they are signed for in the first place. Why does the Diva posing for Playboy always get a better reaction than the one that can actually wrestle? Hm, I wonder.

[NightShiftLoser]

No disrespect NSL, but I could find millions of people who would want to have sex with that, myself included :icon_smile:.

Then you can have her. I'll take K-Squared since you'll be busy with that...Hope she doesn't hurt herself getting undressed.

And, Becca...RVDGurl...You shouldn't be considering the men's looks when thinking about the Divas. The men are not there for us to stare at. The women are. And, there's still plenty of men for you ladies to ogle at, even with Show, Henry, and Joe in the ring. There's only a handful of Divas, and having 1 fat one, stands out a lot more than one big guy on a roster of 30-35 guys. For every Big Show, there's a Randy Orton, or a Jeff Hardy.

[Tenta]

Jesus, some of you really just don’t get it, huh? I mean, Jesus Christ, some of you are painting Vince off like a shrewd business man. Some of you are talking about bodies as props. Look, I won’t get into all of it here, but I’ll select a few that caught my eye, and make me disgusted at these forums. Some less so than others, TM I’m not disgusted by. But still, a couple things.

so people not getting positions or pushed or keeping their jobs cause of weight is a joke.......just take a look at mickie and vickie guerrero. get a grip.
A push, you say? You think Vickie got a fucking push? Mickie really doesn’t matter, but let’s talk about Vickie here. I’m horrified with how the WWE treated her, too.

Ok, let’s throw out a theory here, purely hypothetical;

Let’s say you like a girl at school (I’ll assume you’re in grade school, because you have all of the thought process of a fucking child.) and that you didn’t like a girl. Let’s say something seemed odd to you about her, and you wanted to get her attention. And let’s just say that you followed this girl for weeks, and called her fat. Let’s say you made oinking noises, and were out to make this woman cry. You think many people are going to join the fucking boat, and hop in with you?

No, absolutely not. Because what you’re doing is childish, immature, and is the most malicious thing you could ever do to a woman. Maybe you’ve never seen what happens to a woman that is called fat. Well, I have. And I watched that woman turn to anorexia because of it. You don’t think being called fat wasn’t hurtful? It almost ruined her god damn life. So the next time you want to call people fat, instead of being an insensitive prick, maybe you should simply just keep it to yourself, and leave the subject alone.

Vince couldn’t do that. He had to be the “big man”, and he had to make fun of a poor woman for her weight. And it’s not the first time he’s done it. Remember Bertha Faye, people? Vince has a history of making fun of fat women, and not caring. So think to yourself… Do you want to be the immature five year old on the playground, or do you want to grow the hell up?
For me personally… I definitely view Vince as that five year old toddler

Candice Michelle is just like Rikishi and these men:

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They had weight problems.

You’re fucking kidding me, TM. You think Candice had a weight problem? You, sir, are part of the reason women have such skewed visions of themselves. If that’s your term for “fat”, then you’re quite the distorted person. How is Candice “fat”? She may not be in perfect shape, but even as that, most women would kill to look like Candice, TM. And you want to call her fat.

TM, I like you, and I know there was no malicious intent on what you said… But if that’s fat, you really need to fucking get your eyes checked.

Candice can always lose any weight she supposedly gained, but her reputation wouldn't be fixed as easily if the latter had been the reason she was fired for.

Ech, I like you too, and I may regret digging into you as much as I am about to, but you’re wrong. There is something that can’t be fixed with a little trip to the gym. And that’s her fucking sense of self.

If Candice is to really take this to heart, and really listen to what Vince is saying, and turn to bulimia, would you feel like all’s been fixed. If other Divas watch what happened to Candice, and felt that they could be next if they gain a few pounds, is everything fucking fixed?

Jesus, get your head out of your ass… Sometimes, try to get into a woman’s mind, and think how a woman would react to things. Girls react much differently to being called “fat” than guys. It’s much more of a sensitive subject for them. So why would you even try to push that button, and arouse that feeling of self-loathing?

I’ll tell you why… If you’re Vince McMahon, and you get your jollies giggled to watch a woman hurt. You’re far better than that, Ech.

And, Becca...RVDGurl...You shouldn't be considering the men's looks when thinking about the Divas. The men are not there for us to stare at. The women are.

And you’re exactly the reason why wrestling fans get the bad reputation they do. How dare you, NSL? Yes, there’s a part of sexuality to the matter, but they’re fucking out there to compete. To put on matches, just like men. Is there some aspect of ogling? Yes, and that’s pretty pathetic, but I can’t change it. But I hope most people watch because they just like wrestling.
Do you get your jollies from watching women scream in pain? How about from Kelly Kelly’s yelps of agony? That do anything for you?

If so, then you’re simply one sick man.

[Echelon]

Ech, I like you too, and I may regret digging into you as much as I am about to, but you’re wrong. There is something that can’t be fixed with a little trip to the gym. And that’s her fucking sense of self.

:lmao:

So to you a bruised ego is more important than a damaged reputation? Please... Being fired for being "to fat" is far better than being fired for being a liability. Candice can always lose any weight she supposedly gained, but if she gets tagged for being a danger inside of the ring no wrestling promotion is going to hire her.. her wrestling career would be as good as done.

If Candice is to really take this to heart, and really listen to what Vince is saying, and turn to bulimia, would you feel like all’s been fixed.

What if wrestling was her life ambition? Since her reputation had been so badly damaged that she winds up jobless in the wrestling world for several years, becomes depressed, and commits suicide.

Then what?

If other Divas watch what happened to Candice, and felt that they could be next if they gain a few pounds, is everything fucking fixed?

Does Mickie James still have a job?

Jesus, get your head out of your ass… Sometimes, try to get into a woman’s mind, and think how a woman would react to things. Girls react much differently to being called “fat” than guys. It’s much more of a sensitive subject for them. So why would you even try to push that button, and arouse that feeling of self-loathing?

Candice is a model, she's lived the life of tough expectation before, she probably wouldn't have even entered the business if she didn't think she could mentally handle all the drawbacks... more than likely she wouldn't be affected by this all.

She'll more than likely be on the cover of some fitness magazine come a month from now.

I’ll tell you why… If you’re Vince McMahon, and you get your jollies giggled to watch a woman hurt. You’re far better than that, Ech.
And you’re exactly the reason why wrestling fans get the bad reputation they do. How dare you, NSL? Yes, there’s a part of sexuality to the matter, but they’re fucking out there to compete. To put on matches, just like men. Is there some aspect of ogling? Yes, and that’s pretty pathetic, but I can’t change it. But I hope most people watch because they just like wrestling.
Do you get your jollies from watching women scream in pain? How about from Kelly Kelly’s yelps of agony? That do anything for you?

If so, then you’re simply one sick man.

:rolleyes:

Good to know that you think that superficial looks are more important than potentially ruining someone's reputation so that they can't get another job.

[Tenta]

I love how you try to make yourself out to bethe good guy, Ech. Sad fact is, you really aren't.

Ok, let's just assume Candice is looking for another job. Candice was originally a model... She only became a wrestler on what seemed like a whim. Come on, she was the "Go Daddy" girl. And it's far more likely that she would pursue a job of being a model as opposed to a wrestler. It's better pay, a better lifestyle, and Candice could probably be far more sucessful at such a venture.

If you've ever known the modeling world, Ech, you would know that eating disorders are a rampant disease. And they're usually triggered by someone discussing weight, or by being called fat. And I don't even really want to get into how harmful eating disorders are. Anyway, I think I'd rather suffer from a "damaged reputation" than an eating disorder. Who even says she wants to get back into the wrestling ring? Maybe she'd be happier modeling. She's done it before, and it wasn't like she was a great wrestler.

Look, I really used to have tons of respect for you, I really did. But you obviously don't get how harmful it is to call a woman fat. Try doing it just once, Ech. Then we'll see just how you feel about women being called "fat". Would you ever dare say it to your wife (God forbid you had one, honestly), your mother, your daughter? Would you say it to any of them?

I think you really don't get just how harmful it is. And quite frankly, I'm very much embarassed by that.

[wewanttables]

From my understanding the problem was not that she gained weight but that she was not in ring shape. If she was not in good enough shape to wrestle then she could not do her job. It completely different to be out of shape so they use you in house shows so your stomach is not in HD. It is something different if after several months off the trainers don't believe you have the strength for an arm drag. Mickie is in great ring shape. She does not have wash board abs. She is not fat. Besides being "fat" or "large" can be a gimic (see Awsome Kong). Candice Michelle was fired for being out of shape. It was probably ring shape. That is what happens when you have not seen a ring for months and you don't work out.

[Echelon]

I love how you try to make yourself out to bethe good guy, Ech. Sad fact is, you really aren't.

No, I just have common sense.

Ok, let's just assume Candice is looking for another job. Candice was originally a model... She only became a wrestler on what seemed like awhim. Come on, she was the "Go Dadd" girl. And it's far more likely that she would pursue a job of being a model as opposed to a wrestler. It's better pay, a better lifestyle, and Candice could probably be far more sucessful at such a venture.

How contradicting, you spend all this time preaching about the demonization of looks and how negative feedback can lead to all these problems... then you call the modeling world a great lifestyle, much easier than pro wrestling... try sticking to one argument from now on.

If you've ever known the modeling world, Ech, you would know that eating disorders are a rampant disease. And they're usually triggered by someone discussing weight, or by being called fat. And I don't even really want to get into how harmful eating disorders are.

Yeah I know that the modeling world is a tough business, but I also know that from reading interviews and listening to what models and ex models have to say is that confidence is the key, sure there are standards but there is no such thing as "perfect" in that business.

If you really want to go into it, a good majority of the models that pose generally have their photos altered to make themselves look near perfect.

Anyway, I think I'd rather suffer from a "damaged reputation" than an eating disorder.

Not sure what you do for a living but I highly, highly doubt that you would rather be fired for being incompetent than for being "too fat"

Modeling is one of those jobs that's a double edged sword either way, pro wrestling is not.

Who even says she wants to get back into the wrestling ring?

whose to say besides Candice herself that she doesn't?

Maybe she'd be happier modeling. She's done it before, and it wasn't like she was a great wrestler.

She was a solid wrestler, but she became a bit of liability towards the end of her career.

But you obviously do't get how harmful it is to call a woman fat. Try doing it just once, Ech. Then we'll see just how you feel about women being called "fat". Would you ever dare say it to your wife (God forbid you had one, honestly), your mother, your daughter? Would you say it to any of them?

:lmao:

I live in a household of nothing but women, and all of them have enough confidence in themselves not to be affected by something like.

I think you really don't get just how harmful it is. And quite frankly, I'm very much embarassed by that.

I know how harmful it can be to someone dealing with those types of issues, but it's just fucking stupid to just assume that EVERYONE will be offended if outted for their looks... ESPECIALLY if they're not what what you say they are.

Candice isn't fat, so why should she be offended if called fat?

[Tenta]

Ech, she doesn't have to be fat to let it affect her. That's all well and great that your family is fine, and it doesn't affect anybody, but it doesn't work that way for most women. Do you really believe all women are confident enough to believe that when someone calls them "fat", to ignore it. For most women, you might as well simply take their heart, and stomp on it a little bit. Every woman has a sense of doubt about their image, and women are extremely self conscious about how they look. That isn't me being stereotypical; It's something that is factual. How many people do you know have eating disorders, Ech? Have they ever told you what exactly led to them? 99% of the time, it came from being called "fat", even if they really aren't. Candice may have a different image, just as much as any other human being, let alone women.

This isn't a case of you having "common sense"... This is merely a case of you being extremely insensitive.

[Echelon]

Ech, she doesn't have to be fat to let it affect her. That's all well and great that your family is fine, and it doesn't affect anybody, but it doesn't work that way for most women.

That's most women Tenta, but wouldn't you think that a woman that's worked in the modeling business for a good while would probably have enough confidence in herself to not be offended when someone calls her some thing that she is not?

Do you really believe all women are confident enough to believe that when someone calls them "fat", to ignore it.

Based on experience, and trust me I have plenty (I was in and out of institutions and therapy for most of my childhood) I've less girls with disorders revolving around looks than I have one's that wouldn't be offended if you called them something that they weren't (ugly, too thin, fat)

For most women, you might as well simply take their heart, and stomp on it a little bit. Every woman has a sense of doubt about their image, and women are extremely self conscious about how they look.

In theory yes, but the ones that struggle the most really are what you call them.

That isn't me being stereotypical; It's something that is factual. How many people do you know have eating disorders, Ech? Have they ever told you what exactly led to them? 99% of the time, it came from being called "fat", even if they really aren't. Candice may have a different image, just as much as any other human being, let alone women.

Show me one woman in professional wrestling that has developed a disorder after being fired for her looks.

This isn't a case of you having "common sense"... This is merely a case of you being extremely insensitive.

How am I being insensitive with this issue? That I care more about her reputation and dignity than false claims that will probably never happen.

If I'm being insensitive, you're being ignorant

[Tenta]

That's most women Tenta, but wouldn't you think that a woman that's worked in the modeling business for a good while would probably have enough confidence in herself to not be offended when someone calls her some thing that she is not?


Then why is there such a high prevalency of eating disorders in models, Ech? Coincidence. Utter bullshit.

Based on experience, and trust me I have plenty (I was in and out of institutions and therapy for most of my childhood) I've less girls with disorders revolving around looks than I have one's that wouldn't be offended if you called them something that they weren't (ugly, too thin, fat)


And their view of their looks are easily distorted when you throw around words such as "fat".

In theory yes, but the ones that struggle the most really are what you call them.


And so it's fair to call them that, just because they are that? It becomes all right to call someone fat, just because they are fat?

Yeah, that's not insensitive

Show me one woman in professional wrestling that has developed a disorder after being fired for her looks.


Molly fucking Holly, Ech. Have you ever seen her shoot interview? I doubt it.

The angle in which people called her fat completely messed with her. She suffered immensely from it. Don't try saying "oh, it's never happened" because it fucking has.

How am I being insensitive with this issue? That I care more about her reputation and dignity than false claims that will probably never happen.

If I'm being insensitive, you're being ignorant

No, you care more about being able to call someone fat, if it means you can prove yourself right. And that's just my opinion. Good night, sir.

[Echelon]

Then why is there such a high prevalency of eating disorders in models, Ech? Coincidence. Utter bullshit.

I already explained this or did you just gaze over my post? modeling is a job with a double edged sword. A models body is their job, if they don't meet a certain standard they don't get work. A model has to be confident in order to survive.

It makes no sense why you'd want Candice to return to this lifestyle.

And so it's fair to call them that, just because they are that? It becomes all right to call someone fat, just because they are fat?

Yeah, that's not insensitive

When did I say it was fair? you're twisting my words

Women that are what you call them are known to suffer more than women that aren't.

No, you care more about being able to call someone fat, if it means you can prove yourself right. And that's just my opinion. Good night, sir.

You've completely lost track of the original argument, this is about Candice, not about every other girl in the world. In Candice's case, given her history, what I've heard her aspirations to be in her interviews, and her career with WWE I'd say WWE releasing her because she was "fat" (when she's not) is better than the WWE releasing her because she was a liability and a danger inside the ring.

Candice could simply lose the weight she "supposedly" gained and be rehired rather than having to grasp at straws because no promotion would hire her for being "too dangerous"

Based on everything that Candice has said and done in regards to her wrestling career, everything she strived to achieve the latter would be far more damaging to her than the former ever would.

My opinions not going to change, either accept that or move on.

[RH23]

If she got fired for her weight, then that is completely fucked up. Candice is one of the hottest divas in recent memory. She wasn't terrible in the ring but she became injury prone

[Y 2 Jake]

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Fat is the wrong word to describe your average person on the street who might look like that. But by WWE standards, Candice was fat. She wasn't hired because of her wrestling skills or her personality. She was hired because of the way she looked.

[Little Jerry Lawler]

That's true. You think that Vince hires most of the divas because they have talent. He does it so you have something to ogle at. Candice was good to look at for a while but I do admire her for to trying to learn how to wrestle like Trish. She started getting pudgy and Vince didn't want that so he fired her.

[The Deejish Invasion]

well in a business where she was mostly hired for her looks she really should have known that was going to happen, she showed up looking worse then brandon walker.

She still looks ok by normal standards but by WWE standards, and the fact that she does fitness modelling she has really let herself go, what did she do just eat her favorite foods whilst sitting on the sidelines?, If she doesnt get back into proper shape she will probably end up having to do a nine to five somewhere because no way in hell will anyone let her model unless she want to become the spokesperson for big and tall.

[blair4107]

It looks like she did nothing but eat while she was off from all of her injuries, which I forgot to mention. She was injury prone on top of the weight gain, which would probably cause more injury trouble.

Anyone who finds it wrong or sexist well, what would you say about her nude pictorial spreads? Were those not sexist? So it's good as long as it's working in her favor. Oh I'm sorry, life doesn't work like that.

[Nev]

True, don't forget that the WWE hired Kelly Kelly simply because she was attractive like heck, and she absolutely no wrestling expierence what so ever.

It would be hypocritical for the WWE to let this slide. Not to mention that this is a buisness and there is no loyalty in sports. Yes, even in "sports entertainment".

[General Disarray]

Her looks were the only things she had going for her. If you are a Diva in the WWE and you're not hot enough to be in Playboy, you'll be fired. Candice is well past that stage and she absolutely sucked in the ring as well. Now she'll have to work hard to make as much money on her previous fame as possible.

[ksuperman06]

the truth is that you all can sit here and call her fat and all that shit, but you all fucking know if she spread those legs and told u to put it in her, we all would be balls deep in her pud having the time of our lives. just because a person puts on weight while they are hurt doesnt mean she should have been fired, i mean for christ's sake she could have stayed off tv for a bit to loose the weight but another example of how vince mcmahon is a fucking moron, hell i could write better shit than the shit wwe creative is coming up with and i could do it for all three shows and would only work for 750 grand a year. so to judge someone because they are fat heh yall are funny, because when it comes right down to it............you'd fuck roseanne if it meant yall would get 15 minutes of fame from it.

[dta2324]

forget about the if she opened her legs nonsense,....she isnt the average broad.....she was hired for 1 reason and that was because of the way she looked at that time......not for her athletic ability, or her pedigree as far as wrestling goes, or even the fact that she was an indy phenom and finally got her break....it is what it is people......'

I can say however, the difference between her and Mickie "Im on my way to being a weeble" James, is that Mickie can somewhat wrestle, and she is way over with fans.....The only time Candace was way over was when she did in fact spread her legs for playboy........

p.s....pass the word around....if anyone, or anyone we know can get pics of Mickie James like the ones of Candace I'd love to see them...we wont get to see the swiss cheese on the back of her thighs cause Mickie's ring attire covers it, but Im sure we can get a glimpse of the gut and the size of her now XXL ass......it would be interesting to see....im sure 1 of you can do it then post a side by side of the 2...Ill try to get some shots cause theyll be up here at the end of july, and Ill be at the annual tent tour.

[finneycom1]

Man,
I couldnt believe those pics when I saw them. You know, it kinda sucks b/c these people are held to a higher standard. However, if you are hired by a company like WWE where your day to day job is performing in front of thousands of people, live and tv, then you have to put in the time to look the part as well. Now, to be fair to Candice, she has been injured, but I dont think just being injured takes you from the shape she "was" in, to the shape she is in in those pics.

She is far from being considered "fat" by person on the street standards. If any of you saw a chick like that on the street, you would drool on yourselves. But, since she was hired to be a WWE Diva, you have to put in the time to look your very best at all times, injured or not. You know, thinking back, I do remember the last couple of times that she was on WWE tv, I thought she was starting to gain weight.

As far as Mickie goes, she may be getting a little pudgy around the mid-section, but she did some crowd work back in February at a house show here where I live. She had this little dress on and she was SMOKIN HOT!!! I think she is far from looking inthe shape that Candice does in these pics.

[dta2324]

p.s. ...Mastdon Tentadummy,

seriously get a grip and separate reality from the wrestling business...stop citing real life examples and analogies of average everyday people not held to the same standard and not given a dream job based on their looks the same way Candace was.......

also, after reading some of your later responses, if you think Vickie guerrero wasnt receiving a push, when she got the GM job of smackdown and had integral involvement in the main even programs with EDge, then was moved over to the same position on the Flagship of the WWE, Raw, then you are a fool.....just because she wasnt an in-ring performer doesnt means she wasnt pushed....she was in multiple prominent positions, from a television standpoint on a weekly basis.....

jesus christ its so lame when people take things so personally, and cant be objective....
oh and 1 more thing....as I stated before, dont let facts get in the way....you may end up confused.

[shafe_41]

I agree with Vince here. Her job was to look hot. She wasn't hired to be a wrestler. She improved her skills and became women's champion. Good for her. But nobody can be a WWE Diva looking like Candice does in those pictures. Would I still give it to Candice if she approached me in a hot state? You bet. But by WWE standards held to those Divas, Candice is tubby. Throw a t-shirt and jeans on her, and she'll still be gorgeous. But after seeing these pics, she deserved it. She ate her way to unemployment.

[dta2324]

also, forgot to reply to your Mickie doesnt matter statement....I think it is hilarious that you skip right over Mickie, and say she doesnt matter because it doesnt fit your argument.....Mickie does matter, and it doesnt fit your stance because it makes you look wrong.......she absolutely has gained weight over the last year , and it is absolutely noticeable on television, never mind with high powered digital cameras... yet she is still right in the Main Event Womens mix,(for lack of a better term) running a program with the Champ....
She didnt get fired because of her noticeable weight gain. Whats your excuse now? Wait, you said the Mickie aspect of it doesnt matter. ....im guessing mostly because its a direct counter point to your stance that has been raised by multiple people, and shoots a big fat hole in your theory.
Now lets talk about Vince like you suggested.....vince gave her a job because of the way she looked. He secured her a playboy spread because of the way she looked, which parlayed into being the original GODADDY girl, again because of the way she looked....I trust youre atleast smart enough to figure out that the closest she would have came to playboy was buying it, if she looked back then the way she does now....She wasnt viable...she was terrible in the ring, always injured, and wasnt making any money for the WWE. Just accept it for what it is and move on to the next thing thats going to get your panties in a bunch.

[Headbanger]

I have to say I am amazed what WWE will put divas through and who getes hired and who doesn't I watn to see more Awesome Kongs then Awesome Kong would be less boring and a diva could actually say I was hired for my athletic ability alone, not because of my looks or whatever WWE is being really shallow lately. Candice wasn't that fat either yes she was big for a diva, but not for an average person why should we hold celebrities to such a higher standard than ourselves, their just people, plus her wrestling skills were fairly good, and if she was fired for lack of wrestling ability and lack of overness alone then why isn't Batista fired. if it was because of wieght then why isn't Mickie James fired. WWE is not teaching kids how to treat women like people so little Billy will treat his girlfriend like crap and only view women for sex not intellectual companionship.

[Nev]

Come on guys, we're making WAY to much of a deal about this. Like I said in a thread similar to this, it's a normal part of sports. Don't forget that most divas, like Kelly Kelly, were hired with no wrestling expierence what so ever.

If this situation happened in football, that player would get cut.

In basketball, that player would get benched.

Regardless, there is NO loyalty in sports, period; even in "sports entertainment". Unless Candice is a John Cena for the company, Tom Brady of a franchise, or the leader of a LeBron James, she gets cut. Sorry for the peeps that were huge fans. Life goes on and it's best to accept reality.

It's just like football. You must stay in shape to keep your starting job. Veteran or not.

[ksuperman06]

to be totally honest have u seen that the wwe is moving forward with younger girls and getting rid of the older ones, too bad they cant do the same with a few of the male wrestlers, but it wasnt becasue she was putting on weight because i think candice was in the miss wrestlemania and she didnt look that bad, infact im sure if it was just the weight they'd have kept her because some men find that hot, i would still tap that ass hell id marry the woman even though she looked "fat" as a buncha you say. and Echelon you my friend have a picture of a woman who has more than 2 percent body fat and u can see that in her picture there buddy. also they got rid of victoria and moved on with pushing maryse and kelly kelly, which i find both hot as well but lets face it the older girls are the ones who wrestled better and the ones now are just there to service the boys in the back and to give men something to whack it to when their nude pictures come out online.

[Lord Sidious]

Before I saw the pics, I was assuming this was WWE being "typical WWE" and upset that she gained 5-10 pounds or so. So I was taking Candice's side.

However, after seeing the pics of her, she was a lot bigger than what I expected her to be. Being that she is one of the Divas that was essentially hired to be eye candy more so than an actual wrestler, and given how much weight she did gain, she obviously wasn't working towards staying fit on her time off.

Have to give WWE the nod on this one.

[Edge89]

At first when i read that she was fired for her weight, i thought that was messed up. But after seeing pictures of her, i realized that it wasn't messed up at all. She really wasn't used for wrestling, she was used for her looks and body and she lost her body

[Mighty NorCal]

Uh yea, now that the pics have surfaced, I tend to side with WWE a bit. I mean, a bit of weight, yea whatever, work nack in. However she looked REDICULOUS. Now, I dont think its anyones place to say "well she was just lazy getting back into shape" but may I remind everyone that this is not the first time they have had problems with Candace maintaining what they had deemed an acceptable performing weight. So, work ethic may be an issue here. If your only function in the company is looking a certain way, and you suck at that as much as you suck at everything else, you likely become expendable. Especially with the new PG stuff, and the lack of playboy modeling, and all that, they need athleticism, and wrestling ability above other things. At least LOOK like a wrestler. Her last thing keeping her the least bit valuble was the way she looked in that outfit, and as we can all see, that wasnt maintained properly... so, away we go.