Soap Opera

[bshort31092]

Am I the only one who believes that pro wrestling is too much like a soap opera? I mean the convoluted storylines are getting out of hand. I mean WWE has had love triangles. What makes matters worse is that TNA is beginning to follow with the bad storylines. Is all wrestling going down the toilet??

[Mighty NorCal]

Ummmmm.

Did you just begin veiwing last week? Pro Wrestling IS a soap opera, for men. thats EXACTLY what it is, and always has been, at least for the 22 years that I have been alive. Betrayal, friendship, common goals, love interests, social castes. It IS a soap opera, always has been, always will be. Wrestling isnt in the toilet at all. Its exactly what its supposed to be. WWE is making more money now than it has in a long time.

[bshort31092]

I mean the actual content going downhill. The crazy storylines. Including Mr. McMahon, or "dying" constantly getting hurt.

[Mighty NorCal]

as opposed to what exactly? The attitude era, were people's penises were getting lopped off, Guys had dead brothers coming back from the dead, people were fucking corpses, and a satanic cult were kidnapping people and sacrificing them? Or when Big Boss Man fed Al Snow his own dog? Or maybe when the mo vampire kids were dumping blood all over people in the ring? Or when Perry Saturn was dating a mop? If anything, storylines are more realistic and easier to swallow than ever before.

[bshort31092]

You mean back when WWE was more entertaining????

[Mighty NorCal]

I thought you just said the storylines were too ridiculous, and that they were way out of control now. Then I name off about 8 ridiculous shit storylines that are wildly out of reality, and you say the WWE was better back then? Maybe you should make up your mind.

Equipment accidents happen. People get hurt in them. Blood falling from the sky for no reason, generally, DOESNT happen. The WWE is fantastic, and more realistic than ever now.

[bshort31092]

I was talking about the crappy storylines of the 2000s, starting with the Invasion, which took A-list superstars like Booker T and put them at the bottom of the barrel. The 80s and 90s were the golden age of wrestling because there was actually competition between the two companies which forced the two to put a little bit of creativity behind their stories instead of like now where the two brands copy off each other like Myspace and Facebook

[Mighty NorCal]

Well. A main event title match at Wrestlemania is certainley bottom of the barrel, I can see were you are coming from on that one :rolleyes:

There is plenty of creativity now. Things are done far more within reason, and wrestling is absolutely fine, and as fun as ever. if you truly didnt like the soap opera aspect of wrestling, you would enjoy it more now than ever, becuase the entire show is based more off of the actual in ring stuff than absurd storylines, and tits and ass.

Also, WWE had almost zero competition until about 96. so i have no idea who they were supposedly competeing with up until that point. Once again, maybe get your story straight before posting.

[bshort31092]

They were competing with the other companies that had limited tv exposure, mainly GCW until the Briscoes sold out, literally. And how long did it take Booker T to get to Wrestlemania after the Invasion?

[Mighty NorCal]

...and what does that have to do with the current storylines and booking of the WWE? er, nothing. try to stay on topic.

The WWE's storylines are far more realistic and good than they have been in a very, VERY long time. thus the thread title is silly, and your not even trying to argue it anymore.

[bshort31092]

Last time I checked you brought it back to the Attitude Era. I'm just following the tangents you start. And really they aren't. Vickie Guerrero gets over the death of her late husband to get married to Edge? The illegitimate leprechaun son of Mr. McMahon? The existence of Eugene, Sylvan Grenier, and Rob Conway? The storylines are pretty bad in WWE.

[Mighty NorCal]

Last time I checked you brought it back to the Attitude Era. I'm just following the tangents you start. And really they aren't. Vickie Guerrero gets over the death of her late husband to get married to Edge? The illegitimate leprechaun son of Mr. McMahon? The existence of Eugene, Sylvan Grenier, and Rob Conway? The storylines are pretty bad in WWE.

mine was a direct comparison to the last era.

When was fuck all mentioned about Eddie Guerrero? It wasnt. Its just a name anymore. She is just a character in the show. The illegit child storyline ended up getting botched becuase of the steroids scandal. Its also still ten times more plausable than 90% of the rancid shit the attitude era used to put out. and what do any of those characters have to do with present day? none of them are on the roster....

[bshort31092]

Wow, for a guy who's been watching WWF/WWE you forgot about Triple H, Shawn Michaels, The Undertaker, and technically Goldust, all of whom have impacted recent storylines in the past year

[Mighty NorCal]

annnnnnd? what does that have to with anything? They all have been involved in good angles, and matches, even Goldust, who aided in getting Cody Rhodes over, and had some good participation in the Royal RUmble. are you even attempting to make sense anymore?

[The Infant Finite]

I can't say I disagree with norcal here. The storylines in the WWE today are not great, but they are far more grounded then those of the attitude era (which i am a fan of but I enjoyed more the first time when it was called ECW). Randy orton simply kicking the boss in the head and winning the rumble so the mcmahon family cant fire him is far more acceptable than Steve Austin kidnapping the chairman, putting a gun to his head and making him soil his pants (not saying it wasnt funny). Or Austin attacking and anally irrigating mcmahon while he was recouperating in the hospital.


Shawn Michaels essentially selling his soul to another wrestler to care for his family after it is revealed that he had wasted most of his finances away is far more compelling and grounded than mae young giving birth to a hand or ANYBODY being "buried alive".
Now that the boogeyman is no longer commin' to get me, and Vince is no longer "dead", what angle can you really point to that is utterly unrealistic and absurd? (and dont say santina, its insulting but it's at least funny).

[bigfan0508]

Dude, you can't win. Norcal is made from lightning bolts that Zeus sharted out his ass. He consists of 30% kill-you and 70% awesome. YOU CAN'T BEAT HIM!

and on to the subject at hand. WWE is very entertaining. and didn't Booker ME a wrestlemania before his hair got past his ears? I think he did, 2003 I believe. about 2 years after the invasion. But i can name you plenty of entertaining matches/segments of the 2000s. DX reunion. Bischoff getting thrown away. HBK VS UNDERTAKER. ECW's return. MITB. McMahon pulling stuff out of JR's colon. Need I go further?

AND if you hate the new WWE, why is MVP in your signature?

[saint_edward]

... really?

for fucks sake guys, women have all sorts of stupid ass gay soap operas. we have wrestling... some storylines are sweet and some are lame. just roll with it and remember... we like wrestling. wwe storylines are kinda lame, legacy coming out and shitting on everyone each week with no real competition (some mention DX coming back- bring it on they can go after Vicky G and Legacy) i know its not the DX of old but hell, it could be entertaining.

[bshort31092]

I really think TNA needs to really give WWE some major competition, maybe move impact up an hour to give Superstars some competition for starters, to make WWE think about some of these storyines because they could be a lot better.

AND if you hate the new WWE, why is MVP in your signature?

First of all, I never said I hate the new WWE. Secondly, just because I don't like the new storylines doesn't mean I dislike the superstars. I am a fan of John Cena, The Brian Kendrick, R-Truth, and yes MVP. I just dislike some of the storylines they are put in.

[Scott Free]

Am I the only one who believes that pro wrestling is too much like a soap opera? I mean the convoluted storylines are getting out of hand. I mean WWE has had love triangles. What makes matters worse is that TNA is beginning to follow with the bad storylines. Is all wrestling going down the toilet??

I happen to think there's not enough soap operas in pro wrestling. I don't mean bad soap opera storylines though, like Vicky and Edge, which kind of did go down the toilet because it went into nonsense, like, when Edge was forced into the Hell in a Cell match by Vicky and promised he'd take her to hell with him, then returned as if nothing happened. I mean stuff like Kelly Kelly and Mike Knox, they had a brief relationship and went their separate ways, then Knox returned as an unshaven, unthinking brute, I thought surely they would try and put a soap opera spin to that with having Knox trying to win Kelly back because he was devastated by losing her, Knox was a stereotypical bad boyfriend, he could have been sorry about what he did and even though he knew Kelly would not take him back, he should have stepped up to protect her from Kane when he was doing the infatuation angle, but that didn't happen, they kind of white washed that whole thing, and I think it's a shame, because they had the elements to put on a great soap opera angle with Knox slowly winning Kelly over and perhaps even a proposal at the end, it certainly would have given more dimension to their bland characters.
Hell, most of the women in the WWE are wasted, I'd love to see Melina and Morrison in a soap angle, and I'd pay money to see Beth Phoenix going after John Cena aggressively, then again, I'm a sucker for romance, and that has no place in pro wrestling, however, it is a kind of entertainment.

Peace out.

[Lee]

Of course WWE is like a soap opera, but if for one thing you think this is a recent thing you're quite deluded. It was the case during the 'attitude era' and even before that, but I digress.

The show can be seen as a guy soap opera, it is on three times a week, it has the big storylines four or five times a year and doesn't take a break. It's not a sport as it doesn't have an off season and we all know it's scripted, it's not even like 24/Lost because even that ends a season...whereby wrestling has been continous, just like Eastenders or Corrie.