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suneeboy
05-04-2009, 09:26 PM
Injuries are never something you want in this business and I hope that all 3 of them come back 100%....BUT is them being a bad thing? Should we be saying, "Oh no they are out there is no "star" power! Ratings will go down and fans will lose interest."

I think absolutely not. Three main eventers being gone at the same time when the WWE product is getting extremely stale due to repetitiveness, is actually a good thing, with potential to be a great thing. This will clear up television time for fresh talent and possibly create some new feuds that previously would've been assigned to other people. CM Punk and Jeff Hardy are already benefiting from Taker being gone on Smackdown, and MVP and Matt Hardy are benefiting from HHH being gone on RAW. These guys better seize the moment and solidify their spot near the top of the card for good.

Ezekyo
05-04-2009, 09:53 PM
I agree. I seriously see this particular moment in WWE at the time to really start establishing their future stars. I think guys like Punk, Morrison, Miz, Swagger, and MVP, are being given an even bigger chance to shine, so here's hoping everyone steps up their game and shows who has what it takes to be the next top guy.

matth71
05-04-2009, 10:41 PM
i think it could be a very good thing. but as i sit here watching raw it seems as if the repetiveness is still happening. Looks like MVP will fued with regal and after what i thought was a good promo by Miz and cena shows up, out comes Big Show and Miz just disapears. I dont care about seeing Show beat on an injured cena but i would have loved to see Miz rip into him. If this had happened it would have done wonders at solidifying Miz as a top heel. And i was hoping to see more MVP and Orton action but that looks to be going down the crapper as well. WTF WWE

bulldog76
05-04-2009, 10:50 PM
I am a huge fan of Triple H. But I tuned in last week simply to see what RAW was going to be without him. I was hoping someone was going to step up. I like MVP in the long run, but Im not sure the trigger will be pulled now. Last weeks RAW was not entertaining to me. So I am forgoing RAW for a while. But yes, this COULD be good but the WWE needs to understand that they are 3 months away from the next big PPV and have room for error right now. Why not go for it with a new face? If it flops, you have time to recover and reinsert the old main-eventers to at least stabilize things. If it works, great. Plenty of new doors just opened. I just didn't see it last week.

a7xoff
05-04-2009, 10:51 PM
I hate to say this, but three injuries is a blessing! I hate it for HBK, HHH, and Taker, but now there is a HUGE chance for some of these younger guys to really step up to the plate. Worried about star power? Nah. Raw still has Orton and Cena, and SD still has Edge, Jeff Hardy, Jericho, and a few others to hold up the ratings and what not. Now this is a huge chance for guys like Legacy, MVP, Miz, amongst others to really start to make a stand and determine who is the future of the WWE. HBK, HHH, and Taker won't be there forever, and someone is going to have to have the torch passed to them. This 3 way injury could possibly be the start of that. However. They are going to need to end the repetativeness that is going on right now on RAW. If they are going to use the time that would usually be filled by HHH or HBK for highlights of weeks ago, then none of these guys are going to do much while the three stars are out.

Sasori
05-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Its really good altho I miss HBK and Taker and HHH I really dont care about... people who were mid-carders last year are rising swiftly and extremly fast to the main event level just look at MVP,Morrison,Miz,CM Punk there all benefiting well from the veterans being gone!

Captain America
05-05-2009, 12:40 AM
When all of Vince's guys started to leave for WCW back in the day it allowed mid card guys like Stone Cold and the Rock and opportunity to step up and take the reigns of the main event. When Big Show and Kurt Angle was hurt and Brock just left the company a few years ago on Smackdown it allowed JBL to step out of the midcard and tag team scene to become a main event player. Eddie Guerrero stepped up at that same time as well. Having the top guys go away for awhile can a lot of times be a blessing in disguise.

Henry Hill
05-05-2009, 01:03 AM
here's the thing, remember last summer, when hbk was off, cena was hurt, and they focused on cm punk as champ things were different and good? yeah that all changed as we got to the end of the year. cena got the title back, hbk though still a great performer had the show refocused on him, and back to the same old and now here we are another opportunity for some fresh faces in the main event, but i assure you as we get back to royal rumble road to wrestle mania time, wwe will as it always does focus on taker hhh hbk and cena

maar130
05-05-2009, 03:27 AM
Thing is Taker is and has been a non constant attraction on Smackdown, so Jeff benefiting from that is non sense, actually Taker put the guy over before the Armageddon PPV. As for CM Punk, he is been established because Jeff might take time off. Thing with Punk is that all the time he gets a push he gets de-pusshed too being lost in the shuffle. With HBK is pretty much the same that it is with Taker, he has no issue putting over younger talent and he put Jeff over to before No Way out 2007 so he looked strong inside the EC before WM 24.

Now with HHH it is a different Monster. Even if he is gone, the main event at Raw seems tailor made for him. I give in the fact that for once he finally put Orton Over, but at the same time the main event is the same minus him. Even Shane is a Main eventer with out being a wrestler. Instead of using someone else as a front man he is still there. Good thing is that MVP got mixed there but at the same time he was cut out as usual to face someone else. The legacy members looks like lackeys pretty much all the time so the pic stills seems HHH-Orton-Batista, and somewhere else is Cena, so there not a lot has changed.

So I think that HBK and Taker missing do more harm than good since they ususally don't get involved in the Main event most of the year. HHH is the same because with or with out him, the Main pic is always surround him.

RKO18
05-05-2009, 03:53 AM
bottom line is that we have to sit through The Big Show and actually try and believe that Cena would put him over. Why does the WWE keep pushing guys like Show and Henry?

But we will see Batista FINALLY do buisness and maybe even turn heel.

y2j_chriscodjico
05-05-2009, 03:55 PM
Having HHH, Taker and HBK out is a great thing. The only thing needed now is for Big Slooooow's knees to go and the picture is complete. Seriously, does anyone buy it when he's introduced as the "World's Largest Athlete"? And his crap punching technique? Please.

The young guns only have themselves to blame though if they don't maximise their opportunity.

I agree. I seriously see this particular moment in WWE at the time to really start establishing their future stars. I think guys like Punk, Morrison, Miz, Swagger, and MVP, are being given an even bigger chance to shine, so here's hoping everyone steps up their game and shows who has what it takes to be the next top guy.

I was pleased that someone pointed out Swagger in the bracket of up-and-coming stars. I felt his match against Christian was one of the best matches at Backlash and his performance in his match against Cena in the 3 hour draft special was outstanding (despite Cena failing to sell half of the damage Swagger did). I'd like to see Swagger build his reputation further and get drafted to SD next time around.

Same has to be said for Evan Bourne, who needs to rebuild his momentum after his ankle injury.

HBK-aholic
05-05-2009, 04:22 PM
I definately disagree in regards to Shawn and The Undertaker, especially Shawn. He's hardly taking over the ME scene, is he? When was the last time he had a match in the Main Event at a PPV? Shawn not being there could, not damage, but maybe hinder the chances of some mid-card wrestlers.

Triple H - While I don't agree with 95% of the negative responses he gets on this forum, I can see why you'd think this as a possible good thing. Triple H is often in the ME, and someone could benefit from taking his place. However, I think ratings would drop because of it.

Interlobby
05-05-2009, 04:30 PM
I wish all of them the very best..... BUT it's still repetitavtive.

And I'm Talking about RAW.

Same Main Events (Orton/Legacy beat down on Shane/Batista)

Same Swerves (Miz comes out challenges Cena and it no shows.)


SmackDown! though is really benefitting from it:

Top Faces: Punk,Hardy and Mysterio (will see bout Rey)

Top Heels: Edge & Jericho



Morrisom,MVP and Miz may or may not get that push but for now it looks like there staying still

Kliq
05-06-2009, 01:39 AM
I don't know how anyone who watched Raw this past monday could honestly say that HBK and HHH being gone is a good thing. There is no reason to tune in if all I'm going to see now is Cena-Big Show, and a bunch of mid card matches that have about as much interest as watching paint dry. It's the same old thing with Orton and his 'bad boys', except now it's Batista instead of HHH. Boo.

Smackdown doesn't change much because Undertaker had been focusing on other things before anyway. Chris Jericho would be the only reason I tune in. I can only pray Mr. Kennedy gets back soon so watching Raw again would be somewhat worthwhile.

Goberz2K8
05-06-2009, 02:16 PM
As big a fan i am of Undertaker, now that The "Big 3" are out on injury, I think WWE should seriously think about building up younger talent, Yes ofcourse guys Like Orton, but even people a few years younger, even if they dont have a title yet.....

Phoenix
05-06-2009, 04:14 PM
I think as much they fill seats and are product/ppv sellers. This is going to be a chance to experiment for the future, with Taker & Shawn's retirement getting closer and closer (sorry Becca), WWE has the perfect chance to test the waters.

Many of us questioned how WWE would cope without Taker & HBK, now we have a chance to find out, and additionally without Triple H, only because as everyone has said, it breathes a fresh breath of life on the younger talent and see how they can cope with it. Something like this would possibly kill TNA, but WWE has got the timing right so it can work for the future.

But I think Triple H might be back sooner than we know it...

Razor Blade Dream
05-06-2009, 08:24 PM
I think it is good for the younger talent but as others pointed out Show came out during Miz and Cena's confrontation and Regal seems to be feet first in a feud with MVP. This is total shit and I feel that they are afraid to push younger talent because the ratings have not been spectacular lately. It is not the talent's fault as it is that wrestling isn't a "hot" commodity as it was ten years ago. Give it another few years and we will have another "boom." It always seems to happen that way.

The creative team and Vince needs to get off their asses and let these guys run with the ball for a while. Even when HHH, HBK and Taker return, let these young bloods in the main event scene, their is always room somehow.

This is WWE though, you know they will fuck this up.