Who will never grace the HOF?

[finneycom1]

Here's a question that I have thought about since this year's HOF ceremony: Who do you think will never be in WWE's Hall of Fame?

I have read the thread on who you guys think should be taken out of the Hall of Fame. I agree with almost everyone that Pete Rose and "The Fridge" should not be there. However, I wonder who may never be in the HOF that should definitely BE in the HOF. Here's a list of guys who may never get into the HOF, but definitely deserve to be:

The Ultimate Warrior- Now, I know he definitely deserves to be there, even though he was a crappy wrestler. (but I loved him as a kid) This guy is a former IC Champion, World Champ, headlined WM, Summerslams (among other PPVs), and the first guy chosen by Vinnie-Mac to win cleanly over Hulk Hogan. But, with the release of the Warrior DVD, along with the controversial blogs, speeches, and politics that the guy has shown over the years, we may never see him in the HOF.

Randy Savage- Without a doubt, this guy is what made me start watching wrestling back in '87. I'm not going to go into all of his accomplishments b/c if you know anything about wrestling history over the past 20 years, then you know "Macho Man Randy Savage." I just dont know if he and McMahon can bury the hatchet. He was left off of the Legends of Wrestlemania game for Pete's sake!!! He definitely deserves his place in the HOF, though!

Paul Heyman/Eric Bischoff- You know these guys. You know they deserve it. But, if my memory serves me right, neither of these guys left WWE on great terms. (I could be wrong, though)

Honorable mentions: Psycho Sid, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash

Sorry, if this has been discussed on here already. I am relatively new to posting on here.

So, do you think these guys will ever be inducted to the WWE HOF? Also, if you have any more people that come to mind, post it. I would love to see what or who you guys think may not ever make it to the HOF.

[Stinger]

Chris Benoit- I think we all know why

Lesnar/Lashley- Both of them had big thing goin 4 them but decided to be asses and leave

[finneycom1]

"Lesnar/Lashley- Both of them had big thing goin 4 them but decided to be asses and leave"

Gotta agree with you on Lesnar. I cant stand Brock Lesnar! Vince pushed him like the second coming of Hogan, and he quit to go play football. (which he failed. But, he is a legitimate bad ass in the octagon. Still dont like him though.)

[Jordan adams]

i dunno gillberg lol, out of big stars chris beniot is the only one i can think for sure because of his actions but the other people like savage , warrior, owen, paul heyman, and Eric Bischoff i would like to think they will get in manly because of the fact vince no matter is personal feelings never burns bridges complete the close he came doing that would be bret heart and he is in the hall of fame

[shafe_41]

Lesnar/Lashley- Both of them had big thing goin 4 them but decided to be asses and leave

Lashley did not decide to be an ass and leave. Michael Hayes had a problem with Lashley because he was black and Lashley was being treated unfairly. Get your facts straight.

[Joey B.]

With all due respect, as long as Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund are not inducted, the WWE Hall of Fame lacks all credibility, in my opinion. I don't know why Backlund isn't in yet...I don't know if he's got any bad blood with McMahon...but I know Bruno isn't inducted because he's not on good terms with McMahon, which is garbage. Good terms or no, the man was a two-time champ and had the longest continuous reign of any WWWF/WWF/WWE champ. And Backlund, if I'm not mistaken, has the second-longest continuous reign. They should both be in...but I'm guessing that, at the very least, Bruno will never get in.

[Jordan adams]

With all due respect, as long as Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund are not inducted, the WWE Hall of Fame lacks all credibility, in my opinion. I don't know why Backlund isn't in yet...I don't know if he's got any bad blood with McMahon...but I know Bruno isn't inducted because he's not on good terms with McMahon, which is garbage. Good terms or no, the man was a two-time champ and had the longest continuous reign of any WWWF/WWF/WWE champ. And Backlund, if I'm not mistaken, has the second-longest continuous reign. They should both be in...but I'm guessing that, at the very least, Bruno will never get in.

you i never even thought of Bob backlund good call. I think will be i never heard of him on bad terms with vince but im sure he will be. Bruno i thought was an hall famer but if he's not he should be.

[finneycom1]

With all due respect, as long as Bruno Sammartino and Bob Backlund are not inducted, the WWE Hall of Fame lacks all credibility, in my opinion. I don't know why Backlund isn't in yet...I don't know if he's got any bad blood with McMahon...but I know Bruno isn't inducted because he's not on good terms with McMahon, which is garbage. Good terms or no, the man was a two-time champ and had the longest continuous reign of any WWWF/WWF/WWE champ. And Backlund, if I'm not mistaken, has the second-longest continuous reign. They should both be in...but I'm guessing that, at the very least, Bruno will never get in.

Joey B.- Gotta agree with you on Sammartino and Backlund. When I posted this, I tried to keep it somewhat current. (at least late 80's and later) Good call, nonetheless!! They both deserve it!

[Hulkster84]

To tell you the truth...i think everyone who deserves to be in the hall of fame will end up getting inducted!

Unless of course the wrestler refuses the offer.

Savage, Warrior, Sid, Nash, Hall, Bruno, Backlund, Lesnar, Heyman, Bischoff etc!

From a business perspective...think about it logically.

Hulk Hogan was inducted in 2005 - By far the biggest name in wrestling history.

In 06 it was Bret Hart, 07- Dusty, 08- Flair, 09- Austin!

Since Hogans induction, WWE have set a standard, that every year one 'BIG name' will get inducted!

Eventually they will run out of big names that are on 'good terms' with the company and they will make offers to those big names who aren't on best terms with the company. Its just good business.

And lets face it...the only superstars on the current roster who may get inducted in the next 5 years are HBK and the Undertaker.. as they may be retiring soon.

HHH, Cena have long stays ahead of them!

WWE will need a big name every year and if they dont make amends with those who are not on good terms with the company then the hall of fame will suffer, and wrestlers who lack 'star power' will be headlining hall of fame ceremonies, making fans lose interest!

In 07 Dusty got inducted, and lets face it - noone cared.

Guys like Jake Roberts, Honky Tonk Man, Ted Dibiase etc are very good Preliminar inductees - Like Steamboat, Mr Perfect and Roddy Piper!

But as far as big names are concerned, the Savages and Warriors will get inducted.

Make no mistake about it, Nash, Hall, Foley, Angle, Booker will get inducted, but only when they either retire, or leave TNA for good.

Foley, Angle and Nash are the only names big enough in that company to headline a hall of fame ceremony.

Sting - he will also get inducted, but again, when he leaves tna or retires. He can headline a hall of fame ceremony no doubt. But those guys will get inducted somewhere between 5-10 years from now...maybe more!

All of the names i have mentioned deserve to get inducted, and from a business standpoint, WWE will have to make them an offer eventually!

Whether the wrestlers accept or not is a different story.

Savage and Bruno are the only ones i could see knocking back an offer to get into the hall of fame!

Warrior will take it...he has an ego and is too proud!

The crucial thing here is not inducting someone too early!

Austin was inducted too early i think! Too many guys deserved to go in before Austin...purely because their run was years, in some cases a DECADE before austins!
Guys like Savage, Warrior, Jake Roberts, Honkytonk Man, Ted Dibiase, Backlund, Bruno...but when you think about it...WWE needed a big name to headline the event...Savage, Warrior are the only REAL big names that could headline a HOF event...and they arent on the best of terms with WWE...so Austin got the vote, not to mention the event was held in texas...so from a business standpoint it made sense to induct austin.
In my opinion it was way too early!

But you see...because big names are not on good terms, austins induction was accelerated to occurring way before it should have occurred!

Lesnar will get inducted, so will Heyman and Bischoff!
Lesnar could headline a HOF ceremony, but wont for another 10 years...he will refuse any induction from a 'phony' wrestling organisation while he is world champion in the real world of wrestling.

Heyman and Bischoff are preliminary guys!

Only so many wrestlers have the 'star power' to headline a HOF ceremony, and wwe has set the precedent that one will be inducted every year!

So EVERYONE who deserves to be inducted will be made an offer...otherwise youll have guys with limited star power headlining the event and everyone will lose interest.

Dont forget about Yokozuna and Earthquake!
Vader!
King Kong Bundy, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Legion of doom, Demolition, Powers of pain, Kamala, Brutus Beefcake, Bam Bam Bigelow, and all of the characters from the Legends of Wrestlemania game!

Goldberg too!

X Pac

Sable, Chyna, Torrie, Trish, Sunny!

And the list goes on!

Vince McMahon himself will also get inducted when the time is right!

and of course...the Rock!

But in my view its all about timing!

Too early...there is not enough build up, anticipation or nostalgia and that X factor that was there in Hogans induction and Brets induction will just be missing!

[Ben-Phillips]

Alright, this is subject to change, and definitely just going to change.. Or at least, I hope so...

Chris Jericho as of late, it just wouldn't make sense for him to be a Hall of Famer down the line.. But I do suspect an eventual face turn and return to Y2J... I'm just saying, if he weren't to return to his face.. He might just be the most deserving man to never get there, unless they downplay his gimmick in 10-15 years..

Like I said, I expect this to change soon, and probably is a waste of a spot on this thread.. But if they didn't, how can you possibly say someone as all-around.. Well, spectacular, as Chris Jericho wouldn't make it? 5-Time World Champion, 8-Time Intercontinental Champion, 3-Time Tag Team Champion, former Hardcore and European Champion.. Arguably the King of the Ladder Match.. Then again, there are a few clear cut bests in that respect..

I always saw Jericho as the Shawn Michaels of new.. Performer wise, not so much gimmick wise.. Regardless.. I sort of expect to get bashed for that, but how would someone who is hellbent on ridding the WWE of it's Hall of Famers (Not to mention; some of the most deserving inducties) be put into that class?

[ChrisKessaris]

I would have to say as far as guys who DESERVE it but will NEVER get it...aside from that one obvious one...:

Jeff Jarrett: WWE will never recognize him as being anything other than the mid-carder he was with Russo pushing for him. They'll never recognize TNA

Sting: They'll never induct him because he never had anything to do with them.

Lex Luger: Despite a very successful carreer with 2 world title reigns, he'll never be in the WWE HoF

Vader: WWE will never recognize him as more than what he was when he came over after his Hogan feud in WCW.

Rick Rude: Despite being a great worker and a World Champion, his ending goes against what WWE would like to remember their stars as...unfortunately...since it's their fault.

RVD: One of the most exciting wrestlers of the past 2 decades...however I doubt WWE will ever induct him into their Hall of Fame

Sabu/The Sandman/Raven/Shane Douglas/Tazz: All 5 of these guys made ECW a household name. All of their contributions I say fall on even ground because they were all great at what they were great at. Whether it was hardcore or being an against the grain franchise player or just the biggest (smallest) badass in the company, they were all leaders of the revolution for many years and deserve HoF recognition...that they will unfortunately never get.

Macho/Elizabeth: Thought I seriously doubt they can have a Hall of Fame and exclude this pair, they just might try to get away with it. However...I will say this. There is NOBODY left who deserves Hall of Fame recognition more than the Macho Man and Elizabeth. How many DECADES did they entertain us? Yeah sure, Savage was batshit benoit crazy at the end of his career...and sure Vince hates him...but you gotta admit that since he didn't kill anyone and is still worshiped by marks around the world to this day...maybe Vince has a spot on reserve just for him...you never know.

Chyna: She revolutionized what a woman could accomplish in wrestling. Aside from Trish Status she was probably the best female worker the company ever had. However she got too full of herself when she was on top and fell off the map and into the twisted world of reality tv and porn. God...her snatch is nightmarish...but anyways, she still deserves to be in the HoF in my mind...but will probably never get there.

Demolition: Always considered copycats of the Road Warriors...however, they are still talked about to this day and one of the most dominant WWE teams of the late 80's.

Earthquake: John Tenta was a great worker for a guy his size. He was a total professional in and out of the ring and was always selfless when it came to his characters (he changed a tattoo he had for WCW's stupid shark gimmick for Christ's sake). I just don't think Vince remembers him. Unfortunately since he was one of the best of his era.

[Rabbid Wolverine]

owen hart- they dont ever seem to mention this guy on tv, i have a feeling it has to do with settlement with owens wife, but he should have def already be in there and in the game

vader- i'm not to sure vader would make it in, he was only a real force in wcw, his wwf stint was ok, maybe he was to old/big at that time, but he could still hit a moonsault...DAMN

sting- as long as sting never wrestles for wwe, i think he may be held out for a long time, if he were to do a one time thing, like a wrestlemania, i'm sure he would get inducted instantly

sid justice/vicious- i think he deserves to be there, his attitude probably wasnt the best, but he lasted very long in wrestling for a big guy until that nasty leg breaking accident

[Larceny]

i will list some names of the people who i think will never grace the HOF

RVD:robvandam:

big show

Chris Benoit

Cristian

the great kahli

matt hardy

and maybe milion dollar man ted diebiase

Matt Hardy WILL, because the Hardys will be inducted together someday.
He has enough achievements to be inducted by himself anyway.

[rowdy ruben]

jimmy wang wang, shannon morre, justin credible, the goon, kizarny, duke the dumpster drosse, mideon, gangrel, blue meanie, nd all jobbers that never held a tittle or had a match at wm. sad part is these guys deserve it more then pete rose nd william perry

[Dewey.]

Here's my list of people who will probably not be inducted (and believe me some will are painful for me to list)

1. First and Foremost- Brian Fuckin' Pillman- Ok, I might be prejudice, as I'm from the same area of Ohio, and I've been a Pillman mark since 89. But he should be inducted base on his godliness alone, not to mention his work as a Horsemen, the Loose Cannon, and the first ever "cruiserweight" champ.

2.Owen Hart- Probably won't get in until the widow passes on and his kids say ok.

3.Ted Sr.- Even with all his NWA credentials, his WWE career was as an upper mid-carder, a tag team with Mike Rotunda, or a manager. Overall, most modern fans know him as a glorified jobber, which is a shame.

that's only three, but it's Zombie Jesus day, and I'm more than a little intoxicated, so I'll leave it at that. Mostly, the point is INDUCT BRIAN FUCKIN' PILLMAN!!!!

[schaeffershawn]

pk the million dollar man will get in so will Rude some day expecially looking at how the von erichs got in. Hall/Nash/pac will all get in some day as will sting and Backland.

The onbly people likely never to get in our
Luger, any ECW guy not named dreamer or RVD, Foley at this point, Savage, and Bruno will not get in till he is in the box.

[speedy316]

I dunno if this has been said because i havent read every post in the whole thread but Vince should not control who goes into HOF, its another way of fowarding his own ego, "you can be in the HOF only if me and you are cool!" I think HOF inductions should be decided by a comittee or a board that looks at the achievements of each individual wrestler under scrutiny, rather than Vince "i built wrestling with my own spit and brawn" Mchmahon

[speedy316]

Oh yeah my votes will go to Kevin Nash, Mick Foley and Booker T, all fantastic (in my opinion) but now they have affiliation with TNA, Vince would only bring these guys into to job to Kung-Funaki or Jimmy Wang Yang

[BIGJUICYNIPPLES]

big show will get inducted LOL he is one of the greatest big man ever

[Sean Valjean]

It's early, I'm tired, and I'm at work. Thus, I won't explain why these people won't get in because I'm too lazy. I'm sure you can figure it out yourselves.


Scott Hall
Chris Benoit
Randy Savage
Bruno Sammartino
Ultimate Warrior
Owen Hart

Those are the ones I could think of off the top of my head without stating the obvious ones like Kizarny, Braden Walker, or Mike Adamle.

[BIGJUICYNIPPLES]

on a side note i also belive andre the giant should get a proper HOF induction insted of a lame video clip played and no one speaking on his behalf, ive actully been asked by ppl why hasnt he been inducted, ppl dont even know he was sadly.

[LokiCobain]

Why is Lashley even mentioned in this? At least Lesnar was the center of the company and wrestled some of the biggest names in the business, while Lashley defended Donald Trump's hair.

Hall and Nash will be inducted, just not until Nash is done with TNA. Remember the Kliq? Now tie that in with HHH being son in law to the man who makes the decisions. I wouldn't be surprised if HHH has already talked to Vince about having a Hall of Fame where he, Michaels, Nash, Scott Hall, and even X-Pac are all inducted. The two of them will most definitely happen due to their connections.

Ultimate Warrior will if he wants. When people mentioned Bret Hart, the only reason he got inducted wasn't because Vince wanted to, but because Bret accepted. At the end of the day, anyone that gets thought of has to agree to show up, or else it looks bad. This may be the case with the Ultimate Warrior. Just like Bret Hart, if the Ultimate Warrior is left out, it's not legitimate, and Vince has to move in that direction. Randy Savage is on the same boat in regards to wanting to be inducted. "Bad Blood" works both ways, and if Savage or the Warrior don't want to make an appearance, then for Vince it's not worth inducted them. So they'll wait for the dust to settle and then once everyone comes down, they headline. Same deal, and probably most especially for, Bruno Sammartino. The guy still openly insults Vince McMahon for ruining the sport.

Heyman and Bichoff will definitely both get in, but not before all the other "territorial" promoters. They just inducted the Von Erichs family, it'll be awhile before the ECW or the modern-WCW, (perhaps one day Jeff Jarrett for TNA) gets inducted, but again, to keep it legitimate, you can't just include your little circle of friends. Heyman and Bischoff contributed greatly to WWE as being a big time competitor forcing WWE to change their product, and an innovator who gave WWE ideas on what people would buy into (Attitude and violence).

I do agree with the Hulkster though, that it's just a matter of time before every single wrestler one can remember will pretty much get in, or at least every major champion in WWE. Which leads me to this...


Here's food for thought:
Sting.

The WWE Hall of Fame has already proven that it'll induct guys that have never actually wrestled in WWE. However, these guys are mostly promoters or "founders" or innovators. There's no real bad blood between WWE and Sting, he just didn't want to be used the wrong way so never joined. There's no doubt to the star power and contribution Sting has made to the wrestling business. In any legitimate Hall of Fame, Sting would be a first ballot Headliner. Eventually, Vince McMahon is going to have to make his Hall of Fame a legitimate one (not just something to hype up Wrestlemania), and guys that dominated in other companies will have to be recognized. The problem is it all comes down to Vince, and even if he'll have to do that, if he won't want to, it won't happen.

Will we have to wait decades to see Sting inducted, or will it just simply never happen?

[Savage1]

So the obvious choices are Savage, Warrior, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jake Roberts, and Chris Benoit.

I hate that Vince McMahon will be so stubborn and stupid to carrie a grudge for so many years and not just say fuck it its been way too long and the fans and the wrestlers deserve it. Regardless of what may have happened between him and Savage, the Macho Man was one of the top 5 or 10 best wrestlers ever in my estimation. He should be inducted and he should have been in the video game. I didnt buy the game strictly based on the fact that he was left out. He was one of the biggest reasons i watched wrestling in the early 80's, more so than Hogan. If he doesnt get inducted it would be a complete and utter fuckfest by Vince once again because he let his big ego and pride ruin something for the fans.
We all know the history between Vince and Hall and Nash, not to mention all of Hall's issues. These two helped shape the attitude era as much as Rock and Austin and DX did. If not for them and the nWo there would have been no need for Austin to flip people off and curse all the time or drink beer in the ring. If not for them the volume wouldnt have had to be turned up as high as it was with the Rock's character. They played a significant role in the Monday Night Wars which was one of the best times for wrestling fans. They deserve to be inducted but I doubt that Vince will allow it. Thats a shame!
There is a list of guys that will prob never make it in who absoutely deserve to and I, as a wrestling fan, will be very very disappointed if I never get to see all these guys headline a HOF ceremony and give a great speech. I would love to see Hall and Nash together talking about it being too sweet to be inducted, or Savage yelling Oooooohhhh Yyyeeaahhh one more time but it's highly unlikely and very unfortunate that it will prob never happen.

[Leeds Guy]

Matt Hardy


World Wrestling Federation / World Wrestling Entertainment
o ECW Championship (1 time)
o WCW Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Jeff Hardy
o WWF European Championship (1 time)
o WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
o WWF/E World Tag Team Championship (6 times) – with Jeff Hardy
o WWE Cruiserweight Championship (1 time)
o WWE Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Montel Vontavious Porter
o WWE United States Championship (1 time)

Yeah i think hes in

[SavageTaker]

Everyone that deserves to be in the hall of fame will at one point be inducted in it. if hogan was able to get into it then most people will be abe to get in it. For god's sakes hogan testified against McMahon in the steroid trial and went to the competition. when he was in WCW he nearly drove vince out of business. He did two things that people would have thought would never be forgiven by vince. but look at what happened, vince forgave and forgot and he brought him back because he is the biggest superstar the wwe has. meaning that vince will put personal problems and bury the hatchet with just about anyone as long as it is good for business and it will make him money.

Bruno Sammartino will be in it. Vince doesnt have a problem with him whatsoever, the one with the problem is bruno, and as long as he is alive and doesnt stop being stubborn then he wont be in the hall of fame. but when he dies he will be inducted, unfortunetly most people wont know who he is and wont care.

Bob Backlund will be in the hall of fame too. the reason bob isnt in it is because he feels like he can still go in the ring and has one more run left in him. he has been offered a spot but has refused because of the reasons mentioned above.

Sting will be in it. just because he was never in the wwe doesnt mean that he wont get inducted. gordon solie is in it yet he was never in the wwe. so why should sting not be in it. the only thing keeping sting from the hall of fame is TNA, as long as he is involved with them, Vince will not even think twice about inducting him. so he is definitely going to be in it if he accepts a spot.

for the people who say RVD will never be in it, well it's too early to decide that as he is still pretty young and he has rested alot and has healed and restored his body so he can comeback for one more run.

Randy Savage will one day be in it too. No matter what, vince will want him in his Hall of Fame because he knows it is good for business and will make him money. it is what is good for business. I think if Randy picked up the phone and gave vince a call and buried the hatchet than vince will accept.

To finish off, again if hulk hogan was able to get in it after all he did then most people will be inducted as long as it is good for business and it will make vince money.

[midgensa]

World Wrestling Federation / World Wrestling Entertainment
o ECW Championship (1 time)
o WCW Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Jeff Hardy
o WWF European Championship (1 time)
o WWF Hardcore Championship (1 time)
o WWF/E World Tag Team Championship (6 times) – with Jeff Hardy
o WWE Cruiserweight Championship (1 time)
o WWE Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Montel Vontavious Porter
o WWE United States Championship (1 time)

Yeah i think hes in

Yeah ... the Hardy's will go in at the same time at some point. They will go in as a tag team and as individuals and it will be the headlining act. They will probably both have world title reigns yet to come and both comprise one of the biggest tag teams of all time.
I suspect we will see the Dudley Boyz at some point as well while speaking of tag teams and maybe even the New Age Outlaws ... maybe a whole Tag Team class.

[kenvin100]

See I kinda question who should go in

There are many superstars that have won titles, but have made little to no impact on the industry.I believe Matt Hardy is an example..dont get me wrong, as a tag team, the Hardy Boyz were apart of the TLC pioneers, but as an individual, honestly what else did he do..its not about the title wins or the streak, you gotta make some sort of impact and change to the business..

I feel kinda the same for Jeff Hardy..well its WAY to early to discuss him at this moment in time..

Its kinda hard to answer this question considering WWE will induct anyone...and I mean ANYONE..They look at people who had gimmicks, stints with WWE, and also look at people who changed this business..From Pete Rose....to Bret Hart (That's what I mean) or from The Fridge to Hulk Hogan..just 2 examples

[PDepew2181]

I consider myself a bit of a WWE HOF expert. I have nothing to prove this, but I think that I've been able to decipher some trends among the way the bring people into the HOF. So here's my two cents on a bunch of people previously mentioned.

Sting - Obviously his career needs to end first. Then Vince will need to analyze whether or not he wants to put him in, despite never working for WWE. It's not unprecedented, since Verne Gagne, Nick Bockwinkel, Eddie Graham, and Gordon Solie are all in, though technically Gagne and Graham worked shows for either Capitol Wrestling Federation and World Wide Wrestling Federation. Now assuming Vince wants him in, and I think he will, Sting will have to accept it. That might be a bigger question, since he may not agree with "the product" and things of that sort.

Randy Savage - Whatever bad blood there is between him and Vince needs to be resolved. Maybe the DVD release will help? Maybe not?

The Ultimate Warrior - He's mad with WWE because of the DVD, and I could see why he would be. At the same time, I think he deserves the abuse he receives, because it's a product of his own attitudes and behaviors over the years. I actually don't think Vince would object to inducting him, since he knows it would attract ratings. I do think he might be afraid to give Warrior an open mic since who knows what he might try to say.

Bruno Sammartino - Well, he hates Vince. He hates today's wrestling. He thinks the HOF is a joke because Pete Rose was inducted and also because it isn't an actual building or place he could visit. He's been asked and he's refused. In doing so, Bruno has condemned himself to irrelevance. The younger people who watch wrestling today don't care about Bruno Sammartino. Heck, I'm 28 and I never saw Bruno wrestle and don't care much about him either, other than knowing he belongs in the HOF. Bruno is much too old-school for his own good. When you come right down to it, Bruno was never as good or as important as he would like to think he is. He was essentially a regional champion, it just so happens the region where he wrestled is the one succeeded in going national, and had the right demographics for his personality (heavily Italian-American). Still, he belongs in the HOF, and only he is preventing that.

Bob Backlund - Another no-brainer. Supposedly he's been offered and declined, supposedly because he believes he has another run as a wrestler left in him. I don't know if that's foolish optimism or signs of a delusional mind. Sounds like a combination of both. Whenever he gets past that, or feels that he's had that run, I'd imagine he'll accept. He'll definitely be in some day, that's not even a question.

Scott Hall & Kevin Nash - I'll group these two together since they're so closely tied together in their histories. They both have the talent, accomplishments and importance that, in my mind, makes them worthy of the HOF. But other issues may prevent it from happening. For Hall, it's all about the drug use. I read a recent interview with Nash where he made it sound as if Hall is beyond the point of anyone's help with his addictions and that he needs to straighten himself out. I would be pessimistic about that happening. For Nash I think it depends more on Vince's attitude towards him and his relationship with TNA. Whenver he's done with TNA, I'd have to think Vince would consider him, and it would just be a matter of when.

Jake Roberts - Basically see Scott Hall. If he has his addictions in check, I know Vince would induct him. Also see Ultimate Warrior. If Vince knew he could trust Jake with an open mic, I know Vince would induct him. He said as much on Jake's DVD. Again, I think this will happen, but Jake needs to be straight.

Owen Hart - This all hinges on his widow. If she remains steadfast in wanting nothing to do with Vince and WWE, he'll never be there. I know that Bret Hart has several times complained about Owen not being in, to which I'd always like to remind him that, presumably, his sister-in-law is holding that up, not Vince. This is still a big question mark.

Brian Pillman - Pillman's a bit borderline in terms of actual ring accomplishments. In terms of innovation, both in-ring work and character development, Pillman is on top of the heap. That said, his career was kind of short. It's somewhat debatable as to whether he belongs. My personal opinion is that he does belong. I don't see why Vince wouldn't induct him, and I can't see where Pillman's wife would be opposed.

Ted DiBiase - He'll be in. Don't know what's taking so long, but he'll be in. No doubt.

Rick Rude - He should definitely be in as well. Again, don't know what's holding this up, except possibly the fact that's he's deceased, which is also probably what's preventing Pillman from being in. I expect Rude to be there one day.

Brock Lesnar & Bobby Lashley - I don't know why they're being discussed. They'll NEVER be in because their careers where way too short. Now, if they should come back, we can discuss them again. But to me Lashley was extremely overhyped, overrated and overpushed. There was nothing spectacular about him except his physique, and that's not good enough to get in. Lesnar was certainly on a track, but he basically threw away everything he was given. He would have a much more compelling case than Lashley, if that's saying anything, but it's not going to happen unless he returns, which looks extremely doubtful.

Eric Bischoff & Paul Heyman - In my estimation, both deserve to be in. There are very few promoters who have made contributions that truly enhanced the wrestling business in lasting ways. Bischoff & Heyman belong in that group. In my mind, they were both better promoters than Bill Watts, at least in terms of storyline innovation, if not in pure business terms (then again, all 3 of their promotions eventually went under, so maybe they're all on equal footing there). The relationships between WWE and these two seem to be shaky right now, so it will probably be a while. Also, Vince McMahon should be in before these guys and I don't think Vince is going to induct himself, so we'd have to wait for him to pass on before these two get in.

Chris Jericho - Just mentioning him because someone said that his current gimmick will prevent his induction. Um, no. Gimmicks change all the time. Jericho will get in one day, his current disparaging of gimmicks aside. Remember, Sgt. Slaughter was once an Iraqi sympathizer who burned the American flag as part of his gimmick. Last time I checked, he was in the HOF.

Kurt Angle, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Mick Foley - Well, when they're done with TNA, they've all got a chance. The bridges between them and Vince will have to still be open, which is all depends.

Jeff Jarrett - He doesn't have a chance because he's so invested in TNA and Vince doesn't think much of him. I say he deserves it, but what I say doesn't matter.

Chris Benoit - Yea. Never. Never. Never. I am interested to hear whatever Vince says about him on the upcoming ESPN E:60 special this Tuesday, but I can't imagine he'd publicly say anything different now. It doesn't matter anyway, because he'd never be able to justify putting in a double murderer, no matter what he did in his career. As much as I like to separate his in-ring work from his last act, in this case you simply cannot do that. He'll NEVER be in.

Now, here are some I don't recall being mentioned.
Ole Anderson - Ole belongs in, whether as a member of The Minnesota Wrecking Crew (with Gene Anderson) or as a member of The Four Horsemen, or just by himself. However, he hates Vince just as much as people like Bruno Sammartino. He also never worked for Vince. It sounds as if he's not on the best of terms with guys like Ric Flair and Arn Anderson who might try to go to bat for him as well. So just like Bruno, he's too old-school for his own good, will not be remembered as he should, and has no one to blame but himself.

Bruiser Brody & Abdullah the Butcher - I'm putting these two guys together because they're so "mythic" in stature for their styles of wrestling. But Abdullah never worked for WWE and Brody barely worked for WWE. So I think these guys deserve to be in, but it's a question of whether or not Vince wants them in.

The Fabulous Freebirds - Again, they barely worked for WWE. But they're very deserving. So long as Michael Hayes remains an employee and in Vince's good graces, which seems to be shaky as well right now from what I've read, this may not happen.

Jim Cornette - He is one of the legendary managers of all time. But he had a very messy departure from WWE and still criticizes them, so he may never got the honor he deserves.

I can't really think of any others right now, and I've rambled long enough as it is. Respond at your own peril.

[chance]

bruno samartino actually turned down an induction
and benoit is pretty self explanatory
other then that vince can bury the hatchet

[gordonfly2002]

Randy Savage will never be inducted into the hall of fame simply due to the fact that he popped Steph's cherry when she was 14.

[Little Jerry Lawler]

As long as a McMahon is running the WWE, Chris Benoit will never get into the Hall of Fame. Who knows, after 25 or 30 years he may get in but I still don't see that happening and that's a shame.

[staggabass]

Savage and Warrior

[PDepew2181]

As long as a McMahon is running the WWE, Chris Benoit will never get into the Hall of Fame. Who knows, after 25 or 30 years he may get in but I still don't see that happening and that's a shame.

I'm sorry, but I have to completely disagree with you on that point. I was always a big fan of Benoit and thought he was always vastly under-used during his career.

That being said, HE MURDERED HIS WIFE AND SON! I know that we'll never know the whys for what he did, but you simply CANNOT excuse what he did in ANY way, shape or form.

You cannot put a murderer in the HOF.

[NaturallyPricele$$]

I'm sorry, but I have to completely disagree with you on that point. I was always a big fan of Benoit and thought he was always vastly under-used during his career.

That being said, HE MURDERED HIS WIFE AND SON! I know that we'll never know the whys for what he did, but you simply CANNOT excuse what he did in ANY way, shape or form.

You cannot put a murderer in the HOF.



OJ Simpson would disagree with you!!!

[PDepew2181]

OJ Simpson would disagree with you!!!

Ah, but the difference is that OJ did his murdering (yes, if he did it), after he was already in his sport's HOF. Sadly, you can't be removed from a HOF once you're in, and since he was acquitted, he couldn't be removed from it anyway.

[NaturallyPricele$$]

Ah, but the difference is that OJ did his murdering (yes, if he did it), after he was already in his sport's HOF. Sadly, you can't be removed from a HOF once you're in, and since he was acquitted, he couldn't be removed from it anyway.


I know different circumstances but I just couldn't resist.


I agree though, Benoit will NEVER be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame.

[Jack-Hammer]

Sammartino is unlikely to go in because he refuses to let go of the past. Sammartino is a very very very old school Italian-American that will carry this grudge to his grave. He practically disowned his son for dabbling in steroids and smoking some weed so I doubt he'll get past the issues he has with modern wrestling in general. From what I've heard, he's been offered a spot multiple times and has only refused it.

I doubt that Warrior will go in, which I don't think is a bad thing at all. He was a terrible worker that had to be carried in each and every match he wrestled, he had maybe three moves total and, while I know this doesn't count but I think does merit some mention, the guy is a despicable excuse for a human being. Warrior was a perfect example of just how much of a bodybuilding mark Vince was, and really still is to this day. He looked like a million bucks no doubt, but he made Hogan look like Bret Hart.

I doubt that Sting will be in the HOF since he's had nothing to do with WWE his entire career. Though, I think the real reason he'll never make it is because he's, essentially, the only major U.S. wrestler to debut in the past 25 years to make it big without ever having set foot at any time in a WWE ring. The thought of an American wrestler making it big without Vince is the type of that that would rub Vince the wrong way. I don't mean to sound as though I'm unnecessarily beating up on Vince, but it's true. His ego is so large that nothing would please him more than to literally be able to re-write history: God made the Heavens and the Earth while Vince McMahon, Jr. made professional wrestling.

[Stinger]

I doubt that Sting will be in the HOF since he's had nothing to do with WWE his entire career. Though, I think the real reason he'll never make it is because he's, essentially, the only major U.S. wrestler to debut in the past 25 years to make it big without ever having set foot at any time in a WWE ring. The thought of an American wrestler making it big without Vince is the type of that that would rub Vince the wrong way. I don't mean to sound as though I'm unnecessarily beating up on Vince, but it's true. His ego is so large that nothing would please him more than to literally be able to re-write history: God made the Heavens and the Earth while Vince McMahon, Jr. made professional wrestling.

Actually I read that Vince wanted Sting to be the Top HOF guy this year but once he found out he was working for TNA he is deciding to waint until his career is over...With that being said, we will see Sting in the Hall one day

[Big Pimpin]

Here are my choices
Sting- The reason here is simply not cause he had nothing to do with WWE ever but like Jackhammer said. The real reason is that Sting is essentially the only major wrestler within the last 25 years to not once appear on WWE Programming. The thought of someone making it big witout ever going to WWE would make Vince crazy & in his mind it would rub him the wrong way. I will also agree with Jackhammer on Vince's ego & how it would literally please him to literally re-write history.

Ultimate Warrior- This man is a few cards short of a full deck. This man is a terrible worker & had to be carried in every single match. He is also a piece of shit excuse of a human being. I would be amazed if Vince actually put this nutjob in.

[PDepew2181]

Just because Sting never worked for WWE is not going to keep him from being inducted into the HOF. Again, Vince inducted Verne Gagne, Nick Bockwinkel, Eddie Graham and Gordon Solie who all had very little, if any actual time work for what is now WWE. Harley Race also worked for WWE only for about 2 years, and he's in the HOF. Even the Brisco Brothers never really wrestled for Vince McMahon in WWE, though obviously Gerry Brisco has worked behind the scenes for forever. It doesn't really matter if they actually worked for WWE.

Remember, WWE owns the assets or tape libraries of WCW, ECW, AWA, WCCW, Georgia Championship Wrestling, and Championship Wrestling from Florida besides their own. In my opinion, they have a responsibility to honor the entire history of wrestling because of that, not just their history of wrestling.

[d_henderson1810]

Two men who should definitely go in, which I haven't seen mentioned are Mick Foley and The Rock.

Mick Foley- should be recognized because, despite his limited wrestling ability (which he admits himself), he was able to entertain a crowd through putting his body on the line, night after night, for years. He is very well-respected by his peers (I have heard few in the wrestling industry who don't have soemthing nice to say about Foley), and he brings a unique presence few others have. I think the stumbling block is that he left WWE on bad terms, and is in TNA. If Foley were to be considered, it would only be if he comes back to WWE.


The Rock- Think about it- who was Austin's closest rival to entertainment, whether it be on the mike, or in matches against each other, than the Rock.
I consider the Austin-Rock match at WMX7 the best main-event in Wrestlemania history. He brought huge ratings and some of the most entertaining promos known to man (Youtube any of his promos, and it would be a rare on that didn't pay off).

But I think Vince is pissed with him for leaving the company to do movies. Also, I believe that the Rock would turn down any induction into the HoF until his movie career is over (as he, like Mickey Rourke, may think that an association with wrestling "ruins his cred").

Also, look at the feud Mankind (Foley) and the Rock had against each other. It was great. Their "I Quit" Match at RR '99 was one of the most brutal things I have ever seen. :undertaker2:

[d_henderson1810]

[QUOTE=Mountain Dewey;995283]Here's my list of people who will probably not be inducted (and believe me some will are painful for me to list)

1. First and Foremost- Brian Fuckin' Pillman- Ok, I might be prejudice, as I'm from the same area of Ohio, and I've been a Pillman mark since 89. But he should be inducted base on his godliness alone, not to mention his work as a Horsemen, the Loose Cannon, and the first ever "cruiserweight" champ.

2.Owen Hart- Probably won't get in until the widow passes on and his kids say ok.

3.Ted Sr.- Even with all his NWA credentials, his WWE career was as an upper mid-carder, a tag team with Mike Rotunda, or a manager. Overall, most modern fans know him as a glorified jobber, which is a shame.
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Just a note. I believe that Ted DiBiase Snr has already been inducted in the HoF. Can anyone back this up?

[ThePeoplesChampion]

Honestly i only see Chris Beniot not making because what he did and what the image would be..... like someone said before yea foley and angle left but honestly there is no way in hell no pun intended keeping out foley at least.....hell i even see sting who has never wrestled in the WWE make it cause like that person said they are going to run out of big names and they need at least one big name a year. I mean (no disrespect) u cant headline with Hacksaw....and hell they mended the wounds enough to put Brett in the HoF so anything is possible

[d_henderson1810]

I consider myself a bit of a WWE HOF expert. I have nothing to prove this, but I think that I've been able to decipher some trends among the way the bring people into the HOF. So here's my two cents on a bunch of people previously mentioned.

Sting - Obviously his career needs to end first. Then Vince will need to analyze whether or not he wants to put him in, despite never working for WWE. It's not unprecedented, since Verne Gagne, Nick Bockwinkel, Eddie Graham, and Gordon Solie are all in, though technically Gagne and Graham worked shows for either Capitol Wrestling Federation and World Wide Wrestling Federation. Now assuming Vince wants him in, and I think he will, Sting will have to accept it. That might be a bigger question, since he may not agree with "the product" and things of that sort.

Randy Savage - Whatever bad blood there is between him and Vince needs to be resolved. Maybe the DVD release will help? Maybe not?

The Ultimate Warrior - He's mad with WWE because of the DVD, and I could see why he would be. At the same time, I think he deserves the abuse he receives, because it's a product of his own attitudes and behaviors over the years. I actually don't think Vince would object to inducting him, since he knows it would attract ratings. I do think he might be afraid to give Warrior an open mic since who knows what he might try to say.

Bruno Sammartino - Well, he hates Vince. He hates today's wrestling. He thinks the HOF is a joke because Pete Rose was inducted and also because it isn't an actual building or place he could visit. He's been asked and he's refused. In doing so, Bruno has condemned himself to irrelevance. The younger people who watch wrestling today don't care about Bruno Sammartino. Heck, I'm 28 and I never saw Bruno wrestle and don't care much about him either, other than knowing he belongs in the HOF. Bruno is much too old-school for his own good. When you come right down to it, Bruno was never as good or as important as he would like to think he is. He was essentially a regional champion, it just so happens the region where he wrestled is the one succeeded in going national, and had the right demographics for his personality (heavily Italian-American). Still, he belongs in the HOF, and only he is preventing that.

Bob Backlund - Another no-brainer. Supposedly he's been offered and declined, supposedly because he believes he has another run as a wrestler left in him. I don't know if that's foolish optimism or signs of a delusional mind. Sounds like a combination of both. Whenever he gets past that, or feels that he's had that run, I'd imagine he'll accept. He'll definitely be in some day, that's not even a question.

Scott Hall & Kevin Nash - I'll group these two together since they're so closely tied together in their histories. They both have the talent, accomplishments and importance that, in my mind, makes them worthy of the HOF. But other issues may prevent it from happening. For Hall, it's all about the drug use. I read a recent interview with Nash where he made it sound as if Hall is beyond the point of anyone's help with his addictions and that he needs to straighten himself out. I would be pessimistic about that happening. For Nash I think it depends more on Vince's attitude towards him and his relationship with TNA. Whenver he's done with TNA, I'd have to think Vince would consider him, and it would just be a matter of when.

Jake Roberts - Basically see Scott Hall. If he has his addictions in check, I know Vince would induct him. Also see Ultimate Warrior. If Vince knew he could trust Jake with an open mic, I know Vince would induct him. He said as much on Jake's DVD. Again, I think this will happen, but Jake needs to be straight.

Owen Hart - This all hinges on his widow. If she remains steadfast in wanting nothing to do with Vince and WWE, he'll never be there. I know that Bret Hart has several times complained about Owen not being in, to which I'd always like to remind him that, presumably, his sister-in-law is holding that up, not Vince. This is still a big question mark.

Brian Pillman - Pillman's a bit borderline in terms of actual ring accomplishments. In terms of innovation, both in-ring work and character development, Pillman is on top of the heap. That said, his career was kind of short. It's somewhat debatable as to whether he belongs. My personal opinion is that he does belong. I don't see why Vince wouldn't induct him, and I can't see where Pillman's wife would be opposed.

Ted DiBiase - He'll be in. Don't know what's taking so long, but he'll be in. No doubt.

Rick Rude - He should definitely be in as well. Again, don't know what's holding this up, except possibly the fact that's he's deceased, which is also probably what's preventing Pillman from being in. I expect Rude to be there one day.

Brock Lesnar & Bobby Lashley - I don't know why they're being discussed. They'll NEVER be in because their careers where way too short. Now, if they should come back, we can discuss them again. But to me Lashley was extremely overhyped, overrated and overpushed. There was nothing spectacular about him except his physique, and that's not good enough to get in. Lesnar was certainly on a track, but he basically threw away everything he was given. He would have a much more compelling case than Lashley, if that's saying anything, but it's not going to happen unless he returns, which looks extremely doubtful.

Eric Bischoff & Paul Heyman - In my estimation, both deserve to be in. There are very few promoters who have made contributions that truly enhanced the wrestling business in lasting ways. Bischoff & Heyman belong in that group. In my mind, they were both better promoters than Bill Watts, at least in terms of storyline innovation, if not in pure business terms (then again, all 3 of their promotions eventually went under, so maybe they're all on equal footing there). The relationships between WWE and these two seem to be shaky right now, so it will probably be a while. Also, Vince McMahon should be in before these guys and I don't think Vince is going to induct himself, so we'd have to wait for him to pass on before these two get in.

Chris Jericho - Just mentioning him because someone said that his current gimmick will prevent his induction. Um, no. Gimmicks change all the time. Jericho will get in one day, his current disparaging of gimmicks aside. Remember, Sgt. Slaughter was once an Iraqi sympathizer who burned the American flag as part of his gimmick. Last time I checked, he was in the HOF.

Kurt Angle, Booker T, Scott Steiner, Mick Foley - Well, when they're done with TNA, they've all got a chance. The bridges between them and Vince will have to still be open, which is all depends.

Jeff Jarrett - He doesn't have a chance because he's so invested in TNA and Vince doesn't think much of him. I say he deserves it, but what I say doesn't matter.

Chris Benoit - Yea. Never. Never. Never. I am interested to hear whatever Vince says about him on the upcoming ESPN E:60 special this Tuesday, but I can't imagine he'd publicly say anything different now. It doesn't matter anyway, because he'd never be able to justify putting in a double murderer, no matter what he did in his career. As much as I like to separate his in-ring work from his last act, in this case you simply cannot do that. He'll NEVER be in.

Now, here are some I don't recall being mentioned.
Ole Anderson - Ole belongs in, whether as a member of The Minnesota Wrecking Crew (with Gene Anderson) or as a member of The Four Horsemen, or just by himself. However, he hates Vince just as much as people like Bruno Sammartino. He also never worked for Vince. It sounds as if he's not on the best of terms with guys like Ric Flair and Arn Anderson who might try to go to bat for him as well. So just like Bruno, he's too old-school for his own good, will not be remembered as he should, and has no one to blame but himself.

Bruiser Brody & Abdullah the Butcher - I'm putting these two guys together because they're so "mythic" in stature for their styles of wrestling. But Abdullah never worked for WWE and Brody barely worked for WWE. So I think these guys deserve to be in, but it's a question of whether or not Vince wants them in.

The Fabulous Freebirds - Again, they barely worked for WWE. But they're very deserving. So long as Michael Hayes remains an employee and in Vince's good graces, which seems to be shaky as well right now from what I've read, this may not happen.

Jim Cornette - He is one of the legendary managers of all time. But he had a very messy departure from WWE and still criticizes them, so he may never got the honor he deserves.

I can't really think of any others right now, and I've rambled long enough as it is. Respond at your own peril.

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Chris Benoit will never get in, unless that guy JOhnny Angel is right, and Kevin Sullivan set up Chris Benoit and killed him. Then Vince would have no reason to deny him. But, as this is highly doubtful (and his death exposed the flaws in the WWE's bogus Wellness Policy) then he will never be in.

[d_henderson1810]

I actually don't agree with a lot of you, that they will all be eventually inducted. Because I don't believe it is a proper wrestling HoF , but a WWE HoF, according to Vince McMahon. He has the final say, and Vince is known to screw people he is not on good terms with, out of things before.I want to throw up three names. One who I believe, despite what you all say, will NEVER be inducted. The other two I believe got in for less than untraistic reasons.

Sting will NEVER ever be in the HoF, because it is a WWE HOF. I know people throw up Nick Bockwinkel and some others. But they were all promoters (who Vince bought out). It makes Vince look good to have them in, as he looks to be in touch with "wrestling heritage" while stroking his ego at the same time. Sting, whoever, is a wrestler, who has refused Vince's advances to join the WWE. He has made Vince look foolish by doing that. So he will be kept out as revenge for daring to "cross the boss" and not "selling out". Noone refuses Vince McMahon.

Hulk Hogan was put in, despite being on bad terms, because he agreed to work for Vince again. The two of them figured that they both won out of using the other for their own selfish ends. Hogan gets paid heaps and promotes himself, while Vince gets a ratings spike for fans who still ahng onto nostalgia and 'pop" for every little thing Hogan does.

Bret Hart was put in by Vince because it is his way of saying "It isn't me who has the problem with Bret" (making himself look good, and that it is Bret with the problem) (I mean, he still uses the "Montreal Screwjob" in angles, so he isn't the least bit sorry about it). Also, it was a way to trap Bret to appear at Wrestlemania 22 with the other inductees (meaning that he appears in a WWE arena again, something Bret vowed he would never do, and thus lose his moral highground). It would be Vince saying " See, see! Bret isn't a man of his word. So I was right, and he was wrong"). However, because of Bret's stroke, he couldn't make it to appear at WM22, quashing Vince's trap.

[TheGreenEagle]

Basically what everyone has been saying
Benoit - again we all know why
Savage-
Warrior
Bischoff
Heyman
Sting - Probably not anytime soon, as long as he is in TNA, but he could be even though he's never wrestled in WWE. Although technically he has, on the last Nitro he technically wrestled for WWE even though it was a WCW show, it was already bought by Vince. But come on, Sting deserves it.
Why are people saying Owen Hart? He'll make it in the HOF. If Bret went in Owen will surely go in.

[PDepew2181]

I actually don't agree with a lot of you, that they will all be eventually inducted. Because I don't believe it is a proper wrestling HoF , but a WWE HoF, according to Vince McMahon. He has the final say, and Vince is known to screw people he is not on good terms with, out of things before.I want to throw up three names. One who I believe, despite what you all say, will NEVER be inducted. The other two I believe got in for less than untraistic reasons.

Sting will NEVER ever be in the HoF, because it is a WWE HOF. I know people throw up Nick Bockwinkel and some others. But they were all promoters (who Vince bought out). It makes Vince look good to have them in, as he looks to be in touch with "wrestling heritage" while stroking his ego at the same time. Sting, whoever, is a wrestler, who has refused Vince's advances to join the WWE. He has made Vince look foolish by doing that. So he will be kept out as revenge for daring to "cross the boss" and not "selling out". Noone refuses Vince McMahon.

Hulk Hogan was put in, despite being on bad terms, because he agreed to work for Vince again. The two of them figured that they both won out of using the other for their own selfish ends. Hogan gets paid heaps and promotes himself, while Vince gets a ratings spike for fans who still ahng onto nostalgia and 'pop" for every little thing Hogan does.

Bret Hart was put in by Vince because it is his way of saying "It isn't me who has the problem with Bret" (making himself look good, and that it is Bret with the problem) (I mean, he still uses the "Montreal Screwjob" in angles, so he isn't the least bit sorry about it). Also, it was a way to trap Bret to appear at Wrestlemania 22 with the other inductees (meaning that he appears in a WWE arena again, something Bret vowed he would never do, and thus lose his moral highground). It would be Vince saying " See, see! Bret isn't a man of his word. So I was right, and he was wrong"). However, because of Bret's stroke, he couldn't make it to appear at WM22, quashing Vince's trap.

Nick Bockwinkel and Gordon Solie were not promoters that Vince bought out. Verne Gagne, Eddie Graham and The Briscos were promoters, and only The Briscos sold to Vince during their careers. AWA went under on its own, and Vince now owns the tape library. CWF also went under and essentially merged with Jim Crockett Promotions.

Sting will be in one day, as long as he wants to be in. If Sting is never inducted into the WWE HOF, it is not because of anything Vince decides, but because of what Sting would decide. Vince will do it because there would be money to be made.

[Jack-Hammer]

As for Bockwinkel, Solie, Gagne, Eddie Graham or the Briscos: Well, believe it or not, it's possible for Vince to actually respect other promoters or stars that haven't worked for his company. The problem is that those I mentioned were big names before Vince bought the company from his old man. Gagne and Graham were big names while Vince was in grade school. During the 70s is really when Bockwinkel and the Briscos really made their biggest splashes, while Vince was still sorta low on the totum pole in his old man's company.

Since Vince McMahon took over the WWF in 1982, Sting is the biggest star in American wrestling since that time to have never wrestled for Vince. Vince may have said that he'd like Sting in the HOF, but that's just what he's saying. With Vince, you have to believe almost nothing you hear and maybe half of what you see. Maybe I'm misjudging him but, if I am, then it's his own fault. Although, when it comes down to it, I don't think Sting will mind if he's never inducted. He hasn't needed anything to do with the WWE before, so I don't think he'll be heartbroken if it never happens.