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J Fine
04-09-2009, 03:13 AM
So I was poking around youtube and I stumbled upon some old footage of Kane and I started to think to myself what the hell happened to the big red machine? Back in the attitude era, his entrance music used to send shivers down everyone's spine. Now? He's basically a jobber.

As most of you probably know, Glen Jacobs has been a part of the WWE for almost 17 years, being one of only a select few who was around before the attitude era that still wrestles in the WWE today. In addition, he's been one of their most loyal employees. I mean honestly who remembers when Kane took a significant amount of time off? And even if he did, would anyone care anymore or even notice? Probably not.

In terms of tenure with the WWE, he stands next to only Triple H, Shawn Michaels, and the Undertaker. Every other top guy is a remnant of the 90s or debuted recently. The thing that irks me the most is that above all of that, he has only held the world title once. Sure he's held every other title a couple of times, but I mean cmon he had the WWE championship for 1 DAY. Hell he was around before Stone Cold (who he won the title from) was around and still wrestles years after Stone Cold had his last match.

So, does Kane deserve one last main event push? In my opinion, he does. He's been floating around the mid card for years and he deserves at least one more title reign. He still has the strength and endurance to be able to carry matches with any of the top guys. In addition, he's already in his mid forties and he's bound to retire soon. As one of WWE's most loyal employees, it would be a complete slap in the face if they didn't reward him after all of these years with a title reign.

Here's how I would do it. Kane needs to bring the mask back. He teased it last year but all that came out of it was a short feud with Mysterio. I think it would be cool if out of the blue, he loses a match to some low level guy embarassingly quickly. In a fit of rage, he brings his mask back and begins to destroy EVERYTHING in his path. I'm talking about attacking several different superstars a night just for fun. Every time creative brings his monster gimmick back it's too focused. He needs to go completely insane just for the kicks. Then comes the royal rumble. Without hinting at it too much, he wins the rumble. He's always dominated the match, why not win it for a change? His win doesn't end his insanity though, it just fuels it more. In the process, by attacking faces and heels in exciting fashion he becomes a tweener, most likely getting over with the fans. Then...WRESTLEMANIA 26. Kane vs.......ummmm......whoever is champion at the time haha it doesn't really matter. The match is hyped up beyond belief and at the ppv, there is a stipulation. The two best would be either an inferno match or hell in a cell. Kane wins (which may surprise most, especially if the defender is a face). However long his title reign is, as long as he can salvage his career and prove himself worthy again then it does not matter. Give your thoughts on this...

rk-owned2009
04-09-2009, 03:45 AM
In my opinion he should have won the MiTB match and gotten one last title run maybe on smackdown or something but since he has been Kane i think he has take one long break in 2002 for about 4 or 5 months and came back to fued with Triple H for the title but got screwed... so he does need one last run because he has probably 2 years at most left.

Arrynboot
04-09-2009, 05:24 AM
I love the idea of him going completely nuts and bringing the mask back. That's the sort of idea that just screams excitement (does that fit into the PG format though?)

Something needs to be done about his 1 day run as champ, he has given way too much to WWE and I feel like they haven't rewarded him fairly.

Give Kane another run.

daniel_4tw
04-09-2009, 06:09 AM
Who says he can't bring the mask back?

Make a storyline where he is in an explosion or something, show him unconscious bandaged in the hospital reporting he has 60% burns to his face whatever. When he returns, his face is again scarred, so he brings the mask back and goes nuts from the trauma. One last tilt at the title. Would be perfect IMO and so easy to do.

HBK-aholic
04-09-2009, 06:35 AM
Kane's had enough chances in my opinion and I really don't think the mask should come back. Taking it off of him was a huge mistake - there's not really a place for him without it. The mask gave him character, made him the big red machine. Without it, he's only big. He has no character, no charisma. Nothing that convinces me he should be pushed more.

CKguy217
04-09-2009, 07:55 AM
Yea, Kane should be involved in some storyline that gets him thrown into a fire or explosion or something. I think someone like Chris Jericho would be a good person to use to cause this. Kane's face gets messed up from the fire, and he comes back with the mask on and takes on the old Kane persona, but as a face. He beats Jericho, and makes his way to winning the WWE title. Although if he's on RAW, he'd have to face HHH, who ironically is the one that caused the mask to be taken off about 6 years ago.
Taking the mask off him made him "weak", and just a big guy, nothing special.

I thought that back when Kane was starting his feud with Rey Mysterio, I thought he had his own mask in that "mystery bag". But it turned out to be Mysterio's mask...that feud/storyline made absolutely no sense to me.
I think creative couldn't think of anything for Kane so they just threw something together so fast that they didn't realize it was so crappy.

London_Legacy
04-09-2009, 08:22 AM
No no no no no NO! The big red losing machine is by far the dullest character in the WWE! I'm so bored of the fire, the switching from face to heel week in week out and WWE playing up the monster thing when all he does is lose all the time.

The mask Kane has been and gone and bringing it back would only re-hash something we've seen before and wouldnt be as good anyway.

Bored of him, send him to ECW or TNA where he now belongs.

Shockwave
04-09-2009, 08:26 AM
I'd say Kane definately deserves one more run with the WWE or World Heavyweight Championships for two reasons: 1. Because his only WWE title run was a complete joke and he deserved a longer term. 2. He could easily be transformed back into the monster he once was with the title round his waist which would likely increase ratings as i have many friends who say they stopped watching wrestling when Kane took his mask off.

Savage1
04-09-2009, 09:11 AM
Yes he does...the rumor I heard was that Taker wanted him to be the man he faces in his last match so what better way to bring back the old Kane then to have him fued with Taker, the reason he came to the WWE to begin with, and have him reborn. He could snap and go crazy, destroying everyone and anyone in his way during the fued. Put the mask back on him, bring the original character back. Similar to the way Taker went back to his original gimmick prior to thier match at Wrestlemania 20 I think it was...This fued and the change back to the old Kane could build him up into the monster he used to be and be used to push him into the main event. Give him one more title run for all the loyal years of service he has given the WWE and its fans. The fans marked out like crazy when Taker turned back into the deadman after yrs of being the biker so why cant it work for Kane. Even if you dont like him, he deserves one last title run. This coild be effective and fun!

suleman09
04-09-2009, 09:22 AM
i think kane DESERVES a major push, and i know exactly how to do it too

start up a third and final feud for him
Kane vs Undertaker

start it asap, and then at Armagedon they have a buried alive match, in which the Undertaker burns kane and tosses him and beats Kane in that match, so now kane "disappears" for a bit, but while he is gone, 3 weeks later, start teasing Undertaker "kane is coming for you" "hell will bring you down" and stuff like Undertaker teases his returns to freak out people, and then at the 2010 Royal Rumble, Undertaker wins the World Heavyweight Championship...2010 Royal Rumble Match, Kane returns and wins it, and while he wins the match he beats his own record and takes out 12 people in one match...and then at Wrestlemania 26 - Wrold Heavyweight Championship - Undertaker vs Kane
Kanes wins the World title again and ends the undertaker's streak!
there is my way of giving kane a big push

teamextreme1015
04-09-2009, 09:27 AM
Yea, Kane should be involved in some storyline that gets him thrown into a fire or explosion or something. I think someone like Chris Jericho would be a good person to use to cause this. Kane's face gets messed up from the fire, and he comes back with the mask on and takes on the old Kane persona, but as a face. He beats Jericho, and makes his way to winning the WWE title. Although if he's on RAW, he'd have to face HHH, who ironically is the one that caused the mask to be taken off about 6 years ago.
Taking the mask off him made him "weak", and just a big guy, nothing special.

I thought that back when Kane was starting his feud with Rey Mysterio, I thought he had his own mask in that "mystery bag". But it turned out to be Mysterio's mask...that feud/storyline made absolutely no sense to me.
I think creative couldn't think of anything for Kane so they just threw something together so fast that they didn't realize it was so crappy.

good thought but it was actually rvd that made him take off his mask.

Diablosbomb
04-09-2009, 10:50 AM
Kane will NOT end Taker's streak. So far he is the only one Vince has said ok to do it, but he refused to end the streak. He said he doesn't want to take away from the legacy of the Undertaker. Kane definitely deserves another run with the title but it may be him who turns it down. He is all about the business, and the reason he loses a lot is because he likes to put younger guys over because he said he is retiring soon and they are the future of the company.

Asm92784
04-09-2009, 11:01 AM
good thought but it was actually rvd that made him take off his mask.

No it was HHH. Kane lost a match to HHH where it was a title vs. mask match on RAW. Kane and RVD were a tag team at the time and after taking the mask off Kane turned Heel by attacking RVD.

alexhmfc1
04-09-2009, 11:19 AM
YES kane does deserve a massive push...hes came out and said he likes puttin other talent over and we all know and appreciate this but i think sum1 should make him realise that hes not got long left he WILL be a hall of famer at one point so wot other way to go out than puttin the mask that put him on the map and giving him a decent title run or maybe even a wrestlemania headliner again with the undertaker.....i just hope they do something with him soon before its too late...hes still had an amazing career but he NEEDS a proper run with the strap

RATED R CHAMPION
04-09-2009, 12:22 PM
Well First Of All, London_legacy, Men You Suck.

Ok Now, Ahmmm I Thought Kane Was Going To Win The Mitb Ladder Match At Wm 25, Come On, That Freaking Cm Punk Again!! Damn It! Punk Has Been Only 3 Or 4 Years In Wwe And They Gave Him A World Title And Now The Mitb Again, And Kane With 15-16 Years In He Company, Nothing, Shit!!!

Kane Should Receive A Last World Title Reign Please, I Doesn't Matter If It Hurts The Ratings (which I Think I Would Help Instead) But To Give One Of Your Best Employees A Gift A Reward.

DhA
04-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Kane's had enough chances in my opinion and I really don't think the mask should come back. Taking it off of him was a huge mistake - there's not really a place for him without it. The mask gave him character, made him the big red machine. Without it, he's only big. He has no character, no charisma. Nothing that convinces me he should be pushed more.

He hasn't had enough chances. I'd argue he continues to be mroe over than a lot of the newer guys, and giving him one last push would be a good reward to a loyal worker, and also mean that in the future when he jobs to someone it means more than it currently does. The fans will still buy Kane as a legit threat IMO.

btw I'm not specifically targetting your posts lol

Agent-67
04-09-2009, 12:56 PM
HELL NO!!!!!! Who are you people who think this guy is good? The big guys are the reason MITB match sucked at WM 25. This guy sucks! I have said it before Kane is a Nailz gimmic that went on 10 years too long! He can't cut a promo, can't wrestle a match more than 5-10 minutes, has never had an interesting angle, no charisma, and did I mention HE SUCKS! Why can't he have a retirement match next Monday and lose?

DhA
04-09-2009, 01:05 PM
HELL NO!!!!!! Who are you people who think this guy is good? The big guys are the reason MITB match sucked at WM 25. This guy sucks! I have said it before Kane is a Nailz gimmic that went on 10 years too long! He can't cut a promo, can't wrestle a match more than 5-10 minutes, has never had an interesting angle, no charisma, and did I mention HE SUCKS! Why can't he have a retirement match next Monday and lose?

Because people still like him an he's gonna be remembered in history far lonegr than Ken kennedy, Jack Swagger, Kozlov or whoeer else is flavour of the month. People I know who only watched until like 2001/2002 tend to know a few guys, austin, rock, undertaker, hhh and yes kane. His gimmick is sucessfull and I don't think you can deny that.

CKguy217
04-09-2009, 01:50 PM
good thought but it was actually rvd that made him take off his mask.

I thought Kane and HHH had a match, and the stipulation was that if HHH won, Kane loses the mask.
RVD and Kane were tag partners at the time, and RVD came down to the ring to console Kane with the loss...then Kane took off the mask and turned on RVD, chokeslamming him.

ThePeoplesChampion
04-09-2009, 01:57 PM
No no no no no NO! The big red losing machine is by far the dullest character in the WWE! I'm so bored of the fire, the switching from face to heel week in week out and WWE playing up the monster thing when all he does is lose all the time.

The mask Kane has been and gone and bringing it back would only re-hash something we've seen before and wouldnt be as good anyway.

Bored of him, send him to ECW or TNA where he now belongs.

Wow if u actually read this u will see only one other person feels this way....so guess ur wrong.....and yes he does....now i read a couple saying taker wants kane as his last match but kane doesnt want to beat him...so u do this have edge win the title from cena.....kane faces him normal but in a inferno match...have kane burnt bring back the mask...then as many have said have him go insane beat edge for the world title and dominate till Wrestlemania where the only one to tame him is Undertaker! Taker wins retires as champion keeping the streak. And have kane then retire in that same match cause it wont fit wit taker being gone kane still there.

From Russia With Love
04-09-2009, 02:19 PM
I think WWE screwed Kane last year. They could have done what the fans wanted and put his mask back on, but no they screw it big time and now i think Kane will stay where he is for a long time.

Jersey Wannabe
04-09-2009, 03:02 PM
I was always a fan of Kane and I have always wanted to see him with the belt again.
Granted he has been booked as a joke recently, but with his size and look, they could turn him into a believable main eventer rather easily. Much like back in 2002 when Big Show was jobbed out on Raw jumped to smackdown and won the Title very quickly.
Put him on Smackdown, and make him a monster. But dont draft him to Sd just have him show up and start destroying people. Have him demand a title shot and have him win.
When he drops the belt to an up and comer it will mean more.

INDYjon22
04-09-2009, 03:38 PM
Kane deserves a push but not at the expense of the streak. It would never go down that way, and would be one of the worst ideas ever.

slimmshady
04-09-2009, 03:42 PM
Forget a title run, these guys are getting too old for title matches so I would just prefer kane to feud with taker for his or taker's last feud depending on whom retires first. If kane wants to be the one to lose the final match, probably at wrestlemania, then so be it. Kane and taker feuds have always been awesome. Some how the storylines all fit together perfectly. Even the recent feud at WM XX was done very well. As long as the creative team don't rush any of the matches in the feud, it will turn out to be another legendary moment. Now, the last time taker and kane feuded, it resulted in taker returning as the dead man. This time have a storyline to bring back kanes mask for example kane interputs takers match against michaels and takes him out during the ppv event. Next, taker returns after a month or so (recently taker has asked for time out so this could be the ideal opportunity) and burns kane during an inferno match against an opponent (this opponent could ideally be michaels as he might have been pi**ed off that kane helped him beat taker for the second time. Also this could be the second feud for kane before taker returns). This all leads to a final match at WM 26, taker vs masked kane. They could have a loser quits match depending on whether kane feels his time is up. It is better for kane to leave as the same way he walked into the wwf/e and the wwe need to understand that.

Shockwave
04-09-2009, 04:07 PM
No it was HHH. Kane lost a match to HHH where it was a title vs. mask match on RAW. Kane and RVD were a tag team at the time and after taking the mask off Kane turned Heel by attacking RVD.

If you look back at it, it was storylined for RVD to then admit to Kane he had spoken to Bischoff about adding that stipulation believing Kane didn't need the mask. That makes it RVD who caused the mask to be removed.

-RKOLegend-
04-09-2009, 04:13 PM
YES YES YES

Kane is an amazing talent and hasn't had a mjor push for ages
I think before he retires, he deserves one last push
He's been my favourite for so long
I wanted him to win Mitb but NOOOO...WWE have to be pussys
So yeah, I think Kane should get one last push
But I doubt he will


KANE FTW

jellmoo
04-09-2009, 04:22 PM
A hundred, no a thousand, no a million times YES!

Kane is, bar none, the best big man to wrestle a big man style in the WWE today, and easily one of the best in the history of the business.

He is a man who has elevated so many guys up the ladder, given everything to the business, never complained, and did what was right for the company.

He is a monster of a man who has had trouble simply because he has been mis-booked for the longest time. Given the right push and the right angle, Kane could easily get *very* over as either a face or a heel, and really bring a lot to a solidly booked title run.

The fact that people like Rey Msyterio, CM Punk, and Jeff Hardy have all had longer title reigns than Kane is a complete and utter travesty.

Shua
04-09-2009, 04:33 PM
The current problem with Kane is that he has been (since his unmasking) fully humanized. When he first made his debut, he was fully covered (in that, no portion of his skin was showing), claiming that his face/body was burned in a fire. Due to the burns, if Kane ever wanted to speak, he had to use a speech device. However, months after teaming with X-Pac, he begins to talk without it.

Somewhere down the line, around 2001, he turned heel and, in turn, changed his attire. He wore what was basically a tank top version of his costume. He would wear that until 2003, when he would go on the injured list. Upon his return, his mask was altered and his mouth was now visible......and then came the "Kanearooni" (which, IMO, is basically what killed the character).

Fast forward to his feud with Triple H, with H accusing him of "murdering" Kane's own girlfriend. So, either the "burns" he suffered were not as bad as everyone made them out to be, or Kate Vick must've been blind. Anyways, the culmination was that Kane lost his mask.

After losing his mask, Kane goes back to being a monster heel, even going as far as tombstoning Linda McMahon and electrocuting Shane's testicles. The "monster" was then basically fed to Undertaker at WrestleMania. Then, after "impregnating" Lita, continues to go downhill.

Sure, he's shown signs of "monsterism" but, without the mask, Kane is just a human. Similar to how Taker wasn't really Taker until he "returned from the dead", Kane needs to be put in an angle that gets him back as the Kane we all know and love. Perhaps an inferno match angle where Kane loses after his face gets burned.....then comes back the mask.

I think he still deserves his shot in the spotlight, but I doubt it's going to happen because the top looks far too crowded.

teamextreme1015
04-09-2009, 04:39 PM
If you look back at it, it was storylined for RVD to then admit to Kane he had spoken to Bischoff about adding that stipulation believing Kane didn't need the mask. That makes it RVD who caused the mask to be removed.

thank you i distincly(spelling?) remember rvd telling him that he didnt need the mask and that the fans would not judge him without it or something like that and when he took it off the screen got all messed up and he chokeslammed rvd as raw went off the air

Chill
04-09-2009, 05:21 PM
Kane 100% deserves one last major push, without a doubt imo. He has been hovering around the mid card far too long now and i'm sick of seeing him lose to less talented people. I think one of the most frustrating things in all of WWE is to be a Kane fan because time and time again we get screwed by poor booking decisions and just general incompetence by creative (this is my opinion as a Kane fan btw). MITB would have been another perfect opportunity to push Kane, I mean it would have been interesting to see him carry the brief case around and torment the current champs, he could have reverted to playing mind games like he used to. Instead we get CM Punk who I like but his last run was an epic failure. Simple, Kane should have won this. Christian, MVP and even Punk still have years in them but Kane obv does not. Would it have really hurt the others had Kane won? I don't think so. Though I respect Kane for wanting to put others over, I still think he should honour his fans by giving us one last run, and he does still have a huge following. If done right, a major Kane run could absolutely work imo but it needs to happen sooner rather than later. It doesn't even have to be a title run (although that would be great) necessarily, just a few high profile feuds so that he isn't remebered as a mid card guy who lost to people like Rey Mysterio week in week out. Imo Kane is still the most effective monster heel the WWE has, they have tried to push Khali and Koslov etc but both have ultimately failed..Knox hasn't been seen in weeks. WWE needs to make Kane matter again, only they can change that and I hope to god for Kane and his fans that this can happen one last time. WWE want something different? Answer= push Kane for a change, who knows? It might just work.

OIL
04-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Of course he does. He's been a brilliant servant to the WWE, and he's not exactly terrible in the ring. He had a gimmick that was quality, and it was only because of creative that he's got worse. They've mis-used him for far too long.

He deserves a year long title reign, and you know the fans would mark out if he won the title. Vince wanted to give him the title, but Kane wanted the younger guys to have it. Heck, Kane think of yourself for once. TAKE THE TITLE!

General Disarray
04-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Does Kane deserve one last push? Yes, Glenn Jacobs has put up with a ton of crap and stupid storylines from the WWE for years, and has only gotten 1 day as champion out of it.

Given that he has the ablility to be a fan favorite, there is no reason that he shouldn't be given another push with a main eventer, even if it isn't for the title.

Will he get another push? Probably not. Obviously, the company is gonna focus more on the younger guys, and Kane is just going to be another stepping stone to push them.

However, as long as he still is on my TV, I'm content.

Little Jerry Lawler
04-09-2009, 06:38 PM
The best time to push Kane would have been after he removed his mask. He was great after that for about a year and a half and then he has fallen ever since. He wants to put over the young talent and if he is happy with where's he at then I am fine with that. I'm sure he can have a run with the U.S. or IC title but I don't see him being WHC or WWE material unless there's a wave of injuries.

bulldog76
04-09-2009, 08:53 PM
The best time to push Kane would have been after he removed his mask. He was great after that for about a year and a half and then he has fallen ever since. He wants to put over the young talent and if he is happy with where's he at then I am fine with that. I'm sure he can have a run with the U.S. or IC title but I don't see him being WHC or WWE material unless there's a wave of injuries.

Completely agree. There was one problem. Goldberg. He was supposed to have his title run. He was gearing up for his fued with Triple H. Kane had RAW's ratings at their highest point in some time when he first unmasked but busting him down to a rather sudden match with RVD and then feuding him with Shane, killed any momentum he had.

I do think he deserves one. Maybe a 2 month run or something between major PPV's where creative can play around abit but his loyalty should be rewarded. Hopefully he will accept one more round.

BIGJUICYNIPPLES
04-09-2009, 09:22 PM
kane hasn't had many chances so not sure what some ppl on here are on about, what real chance did he get? the one were tripple h pretty much fucked his whole career up in,

the reason he has become so dull is because wwe keep giving him the worste storylines and always seems to think jobbing him week in and week out will make him cool, when ever kane has been giving a real shot he has done good, but problem is he has only been givin about 3 real shots 1 he won the world tital for a day WOAH, 2 he got screwed over complelty by tripple h (because tripple h is better then every1 NOT) 3 he won the ecw world title WHAT AN HOUNER.

i belive kane trully does deserve a HUGE PUSH whats the worse that can happen? he doesent do so good, yah and, did cm punk do good no but yet he wins the MITB again, just give kane what he deserves

hhhfan14
04-09-2009, 09:28 PM
Who says he can't bring the mask back?

Make a storyline where he is in an explosion or something, show him unconscious bandaged in the hospital reporting he has 60% burns to his face whatever. When he returns, his face is again scarred, so he brings the mask back and goes nuts from the trauma. One last tilt at the title. Would be perfect IMO and so easy to do.

ok man, i love the storyline, its freakin sweet. the only thing is..he has been caught on fire and burned before, and that is supposed to still be his gimmick now, ok, now the best storyline in my opinion would be that they brought in some type of interviewer or someone who was supposed to go and actually find out the truths about his past, and he snaps when the interviewer says something it makes him snap, the cammera is knocked down, and then when it shows kane again, he's sitting there rubbing his mask laughing and then the show ends (by the way, this would be the last segment of the show)


And btw Kane deserves a push more than anyone else in the wwe right now, he has stuck with them through thick and then, even when they have taken his status from him, and then he should have jumped to TNA to go after Abyss, but yes he should be pushed

ThePhenomenalAlexSlack
04-09-2009, 10:25 PM
Kane has his place in the WWE, and that is to put others over.

How many other big men have come and gone in his tenure since his debut? Wrestling is a business, and more importantly a work. The WWE has trusted the big red machine to make others look legit by beating him and he has done a damn good job of it. He doesn't need a title run the same way that Shawn Michaels never needs to hold the title again. A lot of people may think that it would be a nice gesture, but anyone who really understands the business knows being looked at as a legit threat for this long is just as good. Kane hasn't been mis-booked, he has played the role that was needed of him for years and made a ton of money doing it. There's very few guys in the WWE that get to decide when they're done with the company and can collect a paycheck as long as they want to and that is way more important than winning a prop title. I'm a huge Kane fan, and judging by the responses to this thread a lot of others are too, and that's more than can be said for a lot of the guys that have been interim champions longer than his one day reign. He goes out for the most part and wrestles a few minutes a night, doesn't have to put that much wear on his body because of his size, and gets paid for doing (presumably because he's been around so long) what he enjoys doing. Kane has it made.

ACMerk
04-09-2009, 10:28 PM
I think that Kane deserves not 1 more run, but at least 2 more big runs. The problem, in my opionion, was making him a heel, i think that was a step back for him. The WWE should realize that they have potentially one of the most greatest WWE stars in history, if they used him right, he could have been as big as people like Shawn Michaels.
Not alot of people see it, but this guy has something, and he could be huge. Instead of putting him with Big Show in tag team or in the MitB match he should be going for the WWE or World Heavywight Titlel because he, in my opinion, is one of the greatest in WWE History.:jason:

The Catacomb
04-10-2009, 03:09 AM
Hell yeah he deserves a real championship push, and bring back the mask too. It would be easy to do. Just like years ago when Kane got rid of biker-taker because he wasn't a monster anymore, Kane put him out of his misery. Have taker do the same thing to Kane. Have Taker bury him in fire and say he was sick of seeing Kane so weak, so he put him out of his misery. Then have hints of Kane coming back, just like the Taker did to Kane before Wrestlemania XX. Takers last match would be the championship match at whatever Wrestlemania is Undertaker's last and have Kane win it. That's the ultimate respect given to Kane's long tenure...to end the streak and be a champion heel for awhile.

slimmshady
04-10-2009, 05:26 AM
Kane has his place in the WWE, and that is to put others over.

How many other big men have come and gone in his tenure since his debut? Wrestling is a business, and more importantly a work. The WWE has trusted the big red machine to make others look legit by beating him and he has done a damn good job of it. He doesn't need a title run the same way that Shawn Michaels never needs to hold the title again. A lot of people may think that it would be a nice gesture, but anyone who really understands the business knows being looked at as a legit threat for this long is just as good. Kane hasn't been mis-booked, he has played the role that was needed of him for years and made a ton of money doing it. There's very few guys in the WWE that get to decide when they're done with the company and can collect a paycheck as long as they want to and that is way more important than winning a prop title. I'm a huge Kane fan, and judging by the responses to this thread a lot of others are too, and that's more than can be said for a lot of the guys that have been interim champions longer than his one day reign. He goes out for the most part and wrestles a few minutes a night, doesn't have to put that much wear on his body because of his size, and gets paid for doing (presumably because he's been around so long) what he enjoys doing. Kane has it made.

Couldn't agree with you more. But I think kane will return with the mask for a few matches after he retires and those matches will be his tribute to all the kane fans. And I also think taker will make a few returns as the American Bad ass a few more times too, thats once he has hung his boots for good. But as I said before, these guys don't need title runs to make them look dominant and as good as they were years ago. All they need is a few good storylines to go with a few good feuds. And as far as kane is concerned, a few good storylines may bring back the big red ass kicking machine he once was. But first of all I think the most important thing is for kane to get back into shape.

Crimson Mask
04-10-2009, 09:20 AM
No, there are too many "monster" characters on the roster already; Big Show, The Great Kali, Umaga, Vladimir Kozlov etc. with most of them having limited ability and ring presence and have nothing going for them but their size. Kane is over the hill and isn't fit for anything except retirement.

kanefan
04-10-2009, 11:09 AM
as you can see from my screen name I am a Kane fan. I think he does deserve another title run. the guy has put over many people over the years most recently Mysterio. they could bring back the mask or just let him snap over something. he has tons of fans another Taker/Kane fued could be epic.the only thing that taking the mask off did was humanize him which isn't a bad thing.his latest shirt says "the monster within" on the back. anyway for what it's worth I wanna see him get another push before he retires

baken1942
04-10-2009, 11:56 AM
Does Kane deserve one last push? One Word..............YES!!!!

A 24hr title run was a waste of time, pathetic in my opinion. To have him win the title accidently and only hold it until the next night on Raw was stupid. He was hot at that time, he deserved to carry it for a while. He was suppose to be unstoppable, but he was stopped pretty easy, and is stopped fairly easy even nowadays.

Like somebody else said earlier in this forum. Have him in a feud with someone, say a Heel Taker again for instance. I think a Heel Boogeyman woulda been a good one as well but he is gone. But have them feud and it lead to an inferno match, this is where Kane gets burnt, but obviously not his face, have his leg catch on fire, once he is on fire, have him panic, and go nuts because its reminding him of the old days of when he was burnt. Have whoever is facing him, If its taker, have taker shoot a lightning bolt down from the roof and land in front of him and spark a huge explosion, kinda like jeff hardy's pyro accident. Have Kane go to the back on fire.....this leads to the next time on Raw where Kane is in the hospital all bandaged up with serious burns to his whole body and face, have him out for a few weeks or a month because of the burns, then have him return with the mask, protecting his burnt face from the crowd again and have him go on a rampage and win the title, presumably have Taker holding the title and Kane take it from his as revenge, and begin the masked Kane title chapter for more than 24hrs.

Im a HUGE undertaker fan, have been my whole life, but I cant see anybody else being able to pull off this feud other than a heel undertaker holding the belt....

gordonfly2002
04-10-2009, 01:26 PM
No way! Anyone who jobs to X-Pac on consecutive ppv's doesn't deserve anything. And I am a Kane fan.

Creative has ruined him beyond repair!! Thanks Trips!

Irondan
04-10-2009, 03:02 PM
I am a huge Kane fan myself & I am glad to see so many more are that way as well & there are some awesome ideas out there for ways to give him the last strong push. I can respect why he jobs out so much, putting the younger talent over & actually sell offense, a rarity for a big man, IMO. My frustration over this is it's making him look weak, instead of the guy getting the rub look better. A simple solution would be for him to actually win a few matches against the top stars, like Cena, Batista or HHH. Doesn't have to be for a title, but he needs some quality victories. Then when he does job to someone with many years left to give, perhaps Morrison, Kofi, Bourne, etc., it'll make that talent shine much brighter. BTW, Kane deserves the HOF nod, although he may need that one last solid push to get him that spot.:worship:

nbieclkl91
04-10-2009, 03:19 PM
Kane should take the mask back, (without the hair) and keep the same costume he has now. It would kind of remind me odf that Rellik guy from TNA a while back but alot more fierce. Let's say Legacy(Orton, Rhodes, Dibiase) start attacking Kane every week until one week they light him on fire to torement him. Kane disapears for a while and let's say that Orton wins the World Heavyweight title during Kane's "absence". Orton sucessfully defends his title at the next ppv (let's say Royal Rumble) and Kane appears after the match and COMPLETELY destroys Orton and Legacy. This leads to Orton vs Kane at Wrestlemania 25 for the World Heavyweight Championship. Kane wins and becomes champ then retains it at Backlash in a Hell in a Cell match. Kane's reign as champion could go on for a while (maybe untill SummerSlam or Unforgiven....)

alexhmfc1
04-10-2009, 06:28 PM
ok im a massive kane fan and have loved reading some people views heres mine.....i think kane is one of the most under-rated wrestlers ( when he was in his prime) and characters of all time....he should defo get the hof nod and defo get a couple more big storylines and a decent run with the strap and i think he should put the mask back on aswell he should get the mask not by gettin burnt but maybe a wrestler beats him so bad and it really embarasses him and he just SNAPS and dissapears for maybe 2 months ( a break he deserves btw ) and he returns with the mask and a manager and he goes mute again because hes been in a mental home and hasnt spoke for ages and just wants to hide behind the mask again because of "mental scars"!!!!



maybe a bit far fetched but hey maybe sum1 from wwe will actually listen to the fans for once

slimmshady
04-10-2009, 07:26 PM
BTW, Kane deserves the HOF nod, although he may need that one last solid push to get him that spot.:worship:

I completely agree with you. Kane definitely is a future hall if famer but he needs one big decent push to cement his position there and remind us, and the new fans, of what kane was once like. The best way to do that is to take on the big dog of the business and that is the undertaker (preferably with the mask back on). I'm quite sure that there will be another taker/kane feud before either one of them leaves. The question is when will it happen? Maybe it will be at next years WM 26 as taker has defeated all the the top stars on the wwe, all that is left is cena. But I can't see taker feuding with cena unless the doctor of thuganomics returns (which won't be likely because of the new PG rating). So you never know, kane finally may have the push that we all know he deserves.

ThatchileanDude
04-11-2009, 01:25 AM
yes kane does deserve a push

BIGJUICYNIPPLES
04-11-2009, 01:26 AM
yes kane does deserve a push

great statement i agree

ThatchileanDude
04-11-2009, 01:38 AM
Thank You Very much BIGJUICYNIPPLES it was a great and bold statement that i made

Chrisjeffers
04-11-2009, 04:34 AM
After the amont of time Kane has been working at wwe he needs a HUGE run!
I read some of the crap people have writen?

Why doesn't he deserve a title run? because he loses matches?
Really? Do I need to remind you that Wrestling isn't real fighting!

Kane has been nothing but entertaining! Its ok not to like everyone on wwe.
I myself Loath Cena! The best sign I have ever seen was "Cenanuff" LoL

Anyways. Kane needs something big! HUGE! He needs to win both titles raw and smackdown titles! Unite them and be the second undisputed Champion! (Triple H doesn't count! Winning the belt off jericho isn't the same as winning two belts in one night!)

It will put an end to the horrible idea that Vince just wont admit to being wrong about! there was no need to seporate the brands. Kane will save us all and return wwe to proper wrestling!
1 world champ... not 3
1 tv champ... Not 2(ic and us)
1 tag team...(thank god they figured that one out)
1 womans champ... Now why two belts? Most women in wwe can't wrestle anyways!

Chrisjeffers
04-11-2009, 04:44 AM
oh... one more thing! putting on the mask doesn't change the person! why put a mask on him? it won't make him faster stronger or younger.... All it will do is confuse the younger fans that Never seen the mask! It has been gone for some time now!

I was told this once... dunno where...
When someone is over with the fans(Like Kane) They don't push him! he is already over.
This is why the rock and mick lost to evolution(minus hhh)

Kane is already HOF material! I bet undertaker and Kane will be inducted together!

Crimson Mask
04-11-2009, 09:52 AM
After the amont of time Kane has been working at wwe he needs a HUGE run!

Simply working for the company for a certain amount doesn't mean a worker should get a title run, by that logic, Vince should have given long title runs to jobbers like Billy Gunn & Hardcore Holly.

I read some of the crap people have writen?

Just because you don't agree with what other people have written doesn't make their opinions crap.

Why doesn't he deserve a title run? because he loses matches?
Really? Do I need to remind you that Wrestling isn't real fighting!

Yes, thats right none of us realised that wrestling was fake, thanks for taking the time to point that out to us. :icon_rolleyes: Kane is fat, slow and his character is stale with zero credibility left as a monster.

Kane has been nothing but entertaining! Its ok not to like everyone on wwe. I myself Loath Cena! The best sign I have ever seen was "Cenanuff" LoL

If it's "okay not to like everyone on WWE", why did you write at the start of your post that people were "writing crap" because you didn't agree with them?

Anyways. Kane needs something big! HUGE! He needs to win both titles raw and smackdown titles! Unite them and be the second undisputed Champion! (Triple H doesn't count! Winning the belt off jericho isn't the same as winning two belts in one night!)

If Triple H's reign as Undisputed Champion doesn't count, then that still leaves Hulk Hogan, Undertaker, The Rock and Brock Lesner, but there's no reason not to count it. Even if they were to unify the belts, there are too many big-name main eventers in WWE right now-Triple H, HBK, Cena, Orton, etc.-for them to think about putting on a washed up "monster" like Kane.

It will put an end to the horrible idea that Vince just wont admit to being wrong about! there was no need to seporate the brands. Kane will save us all and return wwe to proper wrestling!
1 world champ... not 3
1 tv champ... Not 2(ic and us)
1 tag team...(thank god they figured that one out)
1 womans champ... Now why two belts? Most women in wwe can't wrestle anyways!

See my last point about unifying the titles, but if you want a return to "proper wrestling" Kane is the last person to choose to carry the belt. Also, the Intercontinental & United States Titles are both a step above the Television title, if you're referring to the old WCW-style version of the title.

Tim_Seraphim
04-11-2009, 11:52 AM
Are you people serious? ANOTHER Undertaker vs. Kane match at Wrestlemania? Nothing will surpass their first one so why even bother? Every point Crimson Mask made was spot on. Kane doesn't have a world title because he doesn't draw. When was the last time you said "OH MY GOD MOMMY! ORDER THAT PPV FOR ME BECAUSE KANE IS WRASSLIN CHAVO FOR THE ECWS TITLEZ!!!" Kane doesn't need the mask back, but he does need to update his look. He's looked identical in the last 4 or 5 Smackdown games, which translates to stale. Don't get me wrong, I really liked Kane, and I enjoyed his program with Mysterio, but he's past his prime now, and doesn't need a title, let alone unify two world titles against Undertaker at Wrestlemania.

!br-marella!
04-11-2009, 02:13 PM
I think he deserves it but make him a heel(back when he burned jim ross he was at his best)and give him a mask,maybe an updated one.People are right it doesn't make him faster or younger but like someone said his look could be updated.

EGfan4life
04-12-2009, 12:33 AM
Suleman09......
I think your idea is just freaking genius man. They abuse Kane aka Glen Jacobs. He's been with the company before I even started watching wrestling. I believe he deserves a push and what better way to accomadate Kane's legacy than to end the Taker's streak?

I wish Vince McMahon would actually do what the people want, instead of changing the TV14 rating into a PG rating, having all these guys go undefeated for 20 weeks then get released (guys like Chris Masters, Lance Cade, Lashley, who I miss,) and PLEASE let John Cena get his old gimmick back, when he was funny and rapped.

1996-2004, best times of WWE.

Lil Wes
04-12-2009, 12:39 AM
No. He's old and has lost 5000 steps. The last logical time to push him was back in 03 after he took of the mask, but Hollywood Hunter Helmsley didn't agree.

Kane still has a good sized fanbase, but he's old now, his character has ran it's course, can't put on a match worth a shit, and doesn't even want it. His career is dying down, so he should continue putting the younger talent over and retiring.

joedaman69
04-12-2009, 02:48 AM
I think Y2J deserves a push not Kane. Kane sucks and I want to know why nobody has made him their bitch. lets get some real wrestlers like Y2J and Hogan in the ring man!!

Roflcopter
04-12-2009, 05:31 AM
to me kane had one of the most awesum styles of wrestlin in is early days, he was kinda really like a robot and scary it was pure awesumness, but since he removed to mask hes just become more casual kinda like he cbf becoming anythin big agen he just wants to wrestle. If kane went bak to his old style and put the mask bak on. I would say yea give him a push agen but in his current state id say upper mid card will do

Wokrakken
04-12-2009, 09:22 AM
Kane really does need a push. He has practically done the exact same thing for 5 years now. It kills me to see him, week in and week out, job to people like Kofi Kingston and Rey Mysterio, miss out on opportunites like the MitB, world titles and main event feuds in general.
Kane was at his best from 1998 to 2000. He was absolutely awesome. Just seeing the lights go out and hearing his old theme song play sent the crowd nuts and made shivers go down your spine. If you watch his return to RAW in 2000(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no7SYGIFkRo), you'll see what I mean. The pop he gets is crazy, louder than anything Cena or HHH get.

This is what they need to try and bring back.
What Kane has become now is just... sad.

Like I said, Kane has been the same for far too long now. If they brought back the old Kane that everyone loved, he still has a chance to go out with some dignity. They REALLY need to think of a storyline/feud to bring it all back (i've seen quite a few good suggestions on this thread alone) so it's definitely possible.

Think of it like this; even if bringing back the mask does not work or doesn't get a good crowd reaction (I don't see why it wouldn't), it would still be better than Kane's current position right now. He's at his lowest point at the moment.

I just really wish he'd wear his mask again, just to see what can be done.

Cebeards
04-12-2009, 12:50 PM
Have Kane lose his mind, maybe have a title shot and then get disqualified for beating the hell out of someone. Then over the course of time turn him back into the big red machine. I wouldn't even mind giving him back the mask. When the time is right, put Kane (Big Red Machine, not big white waste) in a high profile feud where he can really play up his anger and crazy side. Maybe WM 26 could see Undertaker vs Kane in a cell. Big guys only have a chance if they are built up, Kane has been broken down for years, that is how big guys lose their credibility. I can't expect Big show to be unstoppable against Cena when he gets beat by Mysterio.

justshellee
04-12-2009, 02:56 PM
kane deserves a big push.
at the moment his character is dull, could do with bringing the mask back & going completely insane

J Fine
04-13-2009, 08:34 PM
Kane is not going to end Undertaker's WM streak. The only person to end it will be John Cena let's be real here, if it ever does get ended. Way things seem to be, he's either going to fade away slowly until WWE wishes him all the best in his future endeavors or he'll go out with a bang.

And a HOF nod? The way he's going now I can't see it happening. He needs to make a bit more of an impact before he leaves for that to happen. The best option is obviously giving him that push even though I doubt it will happen.

Stinger
04-14-2009, 12:23 AM
Seeing as how Kane is on Smackdown now, I see him as a valuble contender for the World Title because Smackdown has lost many contenders in the draft.

hArdymAriomArk
04-14-2009, 12:58 AM
Kane is not going to end Undertaker's WM streak. The only person to end it will be John Cena let's be real here, if it ever does get ended. Way things seem to be, he's either going to fade away slowly until WWE wishes him all the best in his future endeavors or he'll go out with a bang.

And a HOF nod? The way he's going now I can't see it happening. He needs to make a bit more of an impact before he leaves for that to happen. The best option is obviously giving him that push even though I doubt it will happen.

I think Kane ending the streak would be good. It would be a massive push and storyline for him to do it. But, you're right it's not going to happen.

I think Kane deserves a massive push to world title champion. He has what it takes... the only thing is... He doesnt want anymore than what he is now. He is very content jobbing to younger guys and helping them get over. He has said he doesnt need/want another world title reign and is happy in the mid card.

Glen Jacobs/Kane will definatly be in the HOF. Without a doubt. He has been a very loyal employee and has done alot of things behind the scenes for the company. He will definatly be inducted at some stage in life.

If Vince was smart though he could make a FUCK load of money in a major storyline involving Kane and ending with Kane getting another world title reign, even if it is just for a month or 2. The fact of the matter is that Glen Jacobs has worked his ass off, is consistant, is a WWE man through and through and is constantly helping/mentoring the younger less experienced guys. The man is awesome and deserves something for his efforts.

Jason Riptide
04-14-2009, 01:02 AM
Kane deserves a couple months. For the years and years that he has put in and the multiple times he's been very over as a heel without being capitalized on, he deserves it.

Everything that could be said has been said, so just on a personal note, I think Kane is one of the better big men in the business, and one of my favorite wrestlers over the last decade. He's got charisma, his acting is pretty good, and he puts on good matches with good wrestlers.

John Cena, Edge, and Triple H will still be there after 3 or 4 months when you take the title off Kane. With everything that guy has done for your company, cut him a break and give him a real title run (ECW title and 1 day WWE Titles hardly count.)