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hhhfan14
04-05-2009, 12:23 AM
I know there are billions and billions of the peoples fans out there, and austin maniacs out there, and everyone of us have hoped since retirement that they would come back, but rock has stated in previous talks that he is done with the wrestling business, and although many assumed that austin would never be back in the ring, but after tonight, it is almost about a 100% chance that Austin will never step foot in a WWE ring again, as he said tonight that the HOF was the official end of the wrestling chapter in his life, so now that the two biggest names in the attitude era, how much longer do u think others that were there will be in the ring, and what happens when the people that are still watching just becuse of the few men that were in the business back then are still in, wat happnes to the business when they retire. (Mainly Hunter, Shawn, Taker, Kane, etc)
Lord Sidious
04-05-2009, 12:29 AM
Well, I am glad that Austin made it clear tonight, so that his fans can move on ... so we don't have to keep hearing about fans holding out for another match from him.
But as far as the list of retirees go, we're looking at:
Shawn Michaels (1 year)
Batista (1 year)
Undertaker (2/3 years)
JBL (anytime now)
Kane (2/3 years)
This will leave Cena, Orton, Triple H, and Edge. Pretty much the Top 4 players who they currently have. They just need to get some additional people promoted to the Main Event, as backups ... like Chris Jericho and Jeff Hardy (who are both borderline Main Eventers, at the moment), CM Punk, etc.
Now, I haven't watched it yet, as I am on the West Coast and it comes on in about an hour ... but it doesn't sound to me like Austin got the reception Hogan got for the Hall of Fame. I figured that would be the case. Nobody is going to beat Hogan. I know fans who grew up in the Attitude Era (who did not watch during the Hogan Era) take pride in the #1 guy at the time of their childhood ... but Austin is just not Hulk Hogan. Hogan is even a household name, that even people who aren't fans of wrestling know who he is. Can't say the same about Austin.
horsemen4ver
04-05-2009, 02:32 AM
You know I am an old school fan of wrestling even before the "attitude" era, but the "attitude" era put wrestling on the map and that was thanks to Austin, DX, Rock and so on. Shawn has one year left, HHH another 3 or 4 and Taker another year or two left. When those three go the business will be in trouble unless the roster the WWE has now can step it up. To be honest I dont think they can because they have to do something extrordinary that those wrestlers never did to top them. The only problem is that the wrestlers from that era did everything from flying down to the ring to beating you boss up. The "attitude" era of wrestling topped anything these guys can or could ever do.:
Diablosbomb
04-05-2009, 03:28 AM
I loved the "attitude" era, but even when the guys who were at the top during that period are gone, not everyone will be. Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Jericho, Edge, and Christian (just to start off) All were around and though not THE main draw during this time still were a decent part of it, and learned from the main eventers of the period. It will be a sad day when the last of the "attitude" main eventer goes (Triple H?) But the WWE has enough capable, talented superstars to take their places, all they need to do is step up to the plate.
And no, I'm not saying they need to be from the "attitude" era to step up, Orton (being one of the most obvious) is doing a tremendous job and will continue to do so. What else would you expect, he learned from Triple H after all. And he will pass everything he gained from that to Cody Rhodes and Ted Debiase (sp?) Who many feel will grow into main eventers (I'm still on the fence) And Cena (and trust me I do NOT like him) Will be around for a very long time. So you ask:
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wat happnes to the business when they retire. (Mainly Hunter, Shawn, Taker, Kane, etc)
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And the answer simply is, we move on into the next generation of main eventers. And the cycle continues. The old timers from what is arguably the "golden age" of the WWE retiring while sad is not the end of the WWE, when future superstars start to have an inability to step up their game is the end. And with the talent they have now there should be no worries.
obamartins
04-05-2009, 06:54 AM
Stone Cold basically ended any hopes of one more wrestling match at the HOF last night, Which i have no problem with because of his injuries etc.
Does anyone else think Austin somewhat unofficially passed the torch to John Cena when he shared a beer with him at the HOF?
What pisses me off is THE ROCK, yes i know he makes movies now, but the fact that he cant take 1 Day every 1 Year (or even every few years) to have 1 match when he is perfectly healthy & young but can still make time to go on all the worthless chat shows.
MY opinion is that WRESTLEMANIA always needs that ONE MEGA STAR wrestling.
Maybe The Rock will come back for one match.
I think we will see Brock Lesnar return one day as well (i know he his not a Mega Star but he could have been had he not left).
Lord Sidious
04-05-2009, 07:02 AM
Stone Cold basically ended any hopes of one more wrestling match at the HOF last night, Which i have no problem with because of his injuries etc.
Does anyone else think Austin somewhat unofficially passed the torch to John Cena when he shared a beer with him at the HOF?
What pisses me off is THE ROCK, yes i know he makes movies now, but the fact that he cant take 1 Day every 1 Year (or even every few years) to have 1 match when he is perfectly healthy & young but can still make time to go on all the worthless chat shows.
MY opinion is that WRESTLEMANIA always needs that ONE MEGA STAR wrestling.
Maybe The Rock will come back for one match.
I think we will see Brock Lesnar return one day as well (i know he his not a Mega Star but he could have been had he not left).
Well, The Rock has moved on. I suppose the question would be "why can't you?" It's his career. And it's his life. He entertained you for several years and put his time in. He had an opportunity to make a lot more money without tearing his body up. How can anyone fault him? Nobody in their right mind would blame him. I think you are being a little selfish, when it is his life to do what he pleases.
As far as Austin, he isn't as injured as you think he is. He actually admitted on a talk show that he could actually wrestle another 2 years at the current WWE schedule if he had to. He just felt like it was time to move on.
Here is the interview:
At 10:40, that is where he discusses why he is no longer wrestling. It is quite clear from his response that he could definitely do one more match, if need be. He just doesn't want to. Again, that is his decision and one needs to respect it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8oSsuRSDew
TheSavageAuthor
04-05-2009, 10:22 AM
If anybody thinks HHH is going anywhere anytime soon, they're crazy. Triple H is the next Ric Flair, in that he will be doing this until he's 60-something. That guy is too much of a meat-head not to wrestle anymore. I don't see John Cena giving it up anytime soon either. I think that guy has a point to prove, a chip on his shoulder if you will.
As for the future, Randy Orton is the main guy they build around. I can see Mr. Kennedy being a main-eventer......if he could stay healthy! I also think Ted Dibease Jr. is gonna be a big deal too. They are smart to build him over years, instead of months.
Austin is smart for hanging it up. He knows that his gimmick just isn't the same since they killed the "Attitude" era. Nobody from that era is the same. Hogan gets over still, cuz that gimmick will work for eternity.
kenvin100
04-05-2009, 10:37 AM
What pisses me off is THE ROCK, yes i know he makes movies now, but the fact that he cant take 1 Day every 1 Year (or even every few years) to have 1 match when he is perfectly healthy & young but can still make time to go on all the worthless chat shows.
You obviously dont understand why Rourke chickened out of wrestling Y2J..honestly the day any star (movie star, billionaire, any celeb) enters the ring, they are labelled as an absolute joke..a great example: K-Fed..the day he got FUed by Cena is the day he was a joke..even Britney laughed at him for doing it prior to the divorce
IF the Rock did come back to fight, it'd be after his tenure in hollywood..rock is a legit actor..makes a heck load of money for solid B movies. No one would take him seriously if he stepped in the ring again..he might have the millions (and millions) of fans in the WWE on his side but he will lose on a lot more with his current job!
Dont get me wrong, I'd pay money to see the ROck come back, cut the yearly promo or w.e. but it just wont happen..move on Rocky fans, do wat Stone Cold did last night..its pretty obvious he's moved on from wrestling..
I honestly hope HHH doesnt wrestle till hes as old as Flair, I really dont want to see that...I hope he follows HBK's steps and retires within 5 years...
As of right now, the WWE have one megastar, and that's John Cena..they gotta build around him, create bad ass heels and flow with that for the time being..going back into the past isnt gonna solve WWEs problems..they must work on the present and create the future if they want to retain their mainstream success..
Of course it will be hella tough, since now we are seeing the superstars of the attidude era leave one by one..its life guys, that era is come and gone..and its over, believe me: IF the WWE had a service to watch the attitude era on demand, I'd so pay for that, but dont expect it to come back to this day and age..
Rainbow-Haired-Warrior
04-05-2009, 11:14 AM
You obviously dont understand why Rourke chickened out of wrestling Y2J..honestly the day any star (movie star, billionaire, any celeb) enters the ring, they are labelled as an absolute joke..a great example: K-Fed..the day he got FUed by Cena is the day he was a joke..even Britney laughed at him for doing it prior to the divorce
IF the Rock did come back to fight, it'd be after his tenure in hollywood..rock is a legit actor..makes a heck load of money for solid B movies. No one would take him seriously if he stepped in the ring again..he might have the millions (and millions) of fans in the WWE on his side but he will lose on a lot more with his current job!
Dont get me wrong, I'd pay money to see the ROck come back, cut the yearly promo or w.e. but it just wont happen..move on Rocky fans, do wat Stone Cold did last night..its pretty obvious he's moved on from wrestling..
I honestly hope HHH doesnt wrestle till hes as old as Flair, I really dont want to see that...I hope he follows HBK's steps and retires within 5 years...
As of right now, the WWE have one megastar, and that's John Cena..they gotta build around him, create bad ass heels and flow with that for the time being..going back into the past isnt gonna solve WWEs problems..they must work on the present and create the future if they want to retain their mainstream success..
Of course it will be hella tough, since now we are seeing the superstars of the attidude era leave one by one..its life guys, that era is come and gone..and its over, believe me: IF the WWE had a service to watch the attitude era on demand, I'd so pay for that, but dont expect it to come back to this day and age..
In all fairness K-Fed has always been a joke :lmao:
But yeah, I'm happy Austin is going in the direction he feels is right. Too many wrestlers out stay their welcome and try to relive their glory days with sub-par matches, which really just taint their legacy.
cityofevil82
04-05-2009, 01:29 PM
In all fairness K-Fed has always been a joke :lmao:
But yeah, I'm happy Austin is going in the direction he feels is right. Too many wrestlers out stay their welcome and try to relive their glory days with sub-par matches, which really just taint their legacy.
I have been a huge Austin Fan, and was pleased to see him go out that way, but the difference between Austin and Rock is Austin will still show up every now and then, make a special appearance, come in Stun someone.
Now for the Guys retiring, I can see the following retiring.
JBL-Within the next year, he has run out of options and just is not that interesting to watch
Batista-1-2 years (Thank god) hes just boring
HBK-WM 26 as per what I read in regards, but All good things must come to an end
as for HHH, I don't see him retiring anytime soon, I can see him wrestling till he's as old as flair or older.
KoffinMade4_2
04-05-2009, 01:45 PM
I don't think the talent soon-to-be leaving is much of a problem. Honestly, HBK is clearly on his way out (the man is GREAT but you can see it on his face even during matches that he knows it's time). Triple H won't stop until he beats Flair's title record. Taker is going to last until his streak reads 20-0 and he'll retire. Kane will NOT outlast Taker. My main problem is they aren't even attempting to establish who replaces who. That needs to be a main focus.
Just naming some talent I expect to be promoted to the main event level would have to be; CM Punk (the kid has it, love him or hate him he sells), MVP (believe it, he's paid his dues), Mr. Kennedy (that is, if he EVER comes back), Rhodes and Dibiase, Jeff AND Matt Hardy (take one look at their match tonight, it's Vince's way of testing BOTH men to see if they can have main event matches)
That is MORE than enough talent to make up for the ones on the outs. They'll still have Edge, Orton, Cena, Jericho, and Batista (even though i don't personally like him, i can't deny that he sells). They just need to get to work.
Y 2 Jake
04-05-2009, 01:54 PM
It's 6 years since his last match and people still thought he might one day have another one? Yeah, he was always going to round it off to the 10 year anniversary.
Austin will still be on TV every couple of months as well as participating as a special ref. So I guess that means his career will continue on the same path as usual. Beer, Stunner, shit film, beer, Stunner.
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