So I guess HHH is out of Mania [Archive]

klunderbunker

03-08-2009, 01:25 AM

The deal on Raw was he can't touch Orton until Mania or he goes to jail. He fought Legacy on Smackdown, including beating on Orton. So are we just supposed to forget the deal he and Orton had?

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 01:28 AM

Yea but HHH was provoked

klunderbunker

03-08-2009, 01:31 AM

Ah. I guess that segment made my head hurt so much i blocked that part out.

klunderbunker

03-08-2009, 01:33 AM

I don't remember that being an aspect of the deal.

Mighty NorCal

03-08-2009, 01:33 AM

the deal was he couldnt touch Orton unless physically provoked.

fail KB. fail.

Rusty

03-08-2009, 01:34 AM

It was an aspect KB. On Raw, Randy said that Triple H can't touch him unless he was physically provoked.

klunderbunker

03-08-2009, 01:36 AM

Yep watched Raw again and I went into a daze from how bad that was.

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 01:37 AM

Plus JR said it atleast twice on Smackdown.

If anyone watched SD, was it just me or did Orton really deliver in that last segment with how he was so close to HHH but HHH just had no strength to attack him.

In my eyes, props to RKO.

Rusty

03-08-2009, 01:40 AM

Triple H always slobbers whenever he gets beaten up.

That is all.

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 01:43 AM

I'm not looking at the H.

I think Orton sold it really well cause he provoked the H , and HHH wants to get his hands on him so bad and had the oppurtunity but couldnt and Orton was just taunting him.

Rusty

03-08-2009, 01:44 AM

Either way, I still can't believe the WWE is making this a Wrestlemania match.

It would have worked better 4 or 5 years ago, but not now.

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 01:56 AM

Do you guys think this match is gonna be the match to close Mania or is it gnna be Cena vs Edege vs Big SLow

IC25

03-08-2009, 01:57 AM

The deal on Raw was he can't touch Orton until Mania or he goes to jail. He fought Legacy on Smackdown, including beating on Orton. So are we just supposed to forget the deal he and Orton had?

It was unless he was physically provoked. Orton hit HHH first. JR and Taz even said "there's the physical provocation, and now it's on" or something like that.

Legit made sense.

Rusty

03-08-2009, 01:58 AM

Do you guys think this match is gonna be the match to close Mania or is it gnna be Cena vs Edege vs Big SLow

Edge will win in the final match of the night.

Out comes, MVP (The Money in the Bank winner). New World Heavyweight champion.

If that doesn't happen, then we riot.

jazwaz1

03-08-2009, 03:01 AM

Cena vs Edge vs Show ending WM :lmao:.

Strangely enough, I get this feeling it might be HBK vs Taker.

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 03:07 AM

Edge will win in the final match of the night.

Out comes, MVP (The Money in the Bank winner). New World Heavyweight champion.

If that doesn't happen, then we riot.

MVP closing Mania25 is a joke, the guys has had no main event regularity at all. Why would the WWE let him close the biggest show they ever did. Either Cena or the winner of HHH/Orton or HBK/Taker will close the show.

Dont talk so stupid...MVP...give me a break

Danmen001

03-08-2009, 03:10 AM

Rusty

03-08-2009, 03:23 AM

MVP closing Mania25 is a joke, the guys has had no main event regularity at all. Why would the WWE let him close the biggest show they ever did. Either Cena or the winner of HHH/Orton or HBK/Taker will close the show.

Dont talk so stupid...MVP...give me a break

Not really. Batista closed the show in 2005 when he wasn't a legitimate main eventer. Cena, Taker, Orton, HBK and Triple H have all closed a Wrestlemania. We want to see something different, don't we?

MVP would get people interested in the following weeks shows, because it's something we haven't seen before.

Danmen001

03-08-2009, 03:31 AM

Not really. Batista closed the show in 2005 when he wasn't a legitimate main eventer. Cena, Taker, Orton, HBK and Triple H have all closed a Wrestlemania. We want to see something different, don't we?

MVP would get people interested in the following weeks shows, because it's something we haven't seen before.

You were being serious?! Oh, Rusy, you actually want that? Deary dear. :blink:

Rusty

03-08-2009, 03:33 AM

You were being serious?! Oh, Rusy, you actually want that? Deary dear. :blink:

Unless you want Triple H closing the show again...

Danmen001

03-08-2009, 03:39 AM

Unless you want Triple H closing the show again...

I am hoping for Randy Orton to end the show. A MitB Cash in would be fine, just not at the end of the show.

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 03:41 AM

Heels closing Wrestlemania kind of ruins the whole "feel good moment" thing.

Exactly this is my thought to a T.

Orton/HHH is the better feud but Orton will prob take the title an the WWE doesnt want a heel to close the show.

So even tho Cena/Edge/Show isnt as intriguing that will close the show cause the WWE wants the "Mania Moment", and John Cena brings that.

Rusty

03-08-2009, 03:41 AM

I am hoping for Randy Orton to end the show. A MitB Cash in would be fine, just not at the end of the show.

Heels closing Wrestlemania kind of ruins the whole "feel good moment" thing.

Rusty

03-08-2009, 03:45 AM

These titles are sluts, they change owners every pay per view ;)

Danmen001

03-08-2009, 03:48 AM

Heels closing Wrestlemania kind of ruins the whole "feel good moment" thing.

True. But, for me anyway, Randy Orton is more a tweener. Randy or Cena closing the show would be good for me, either way. Both are "The future" of the business for while. Cena more than Orton, but Triple/Orton has more heat, so I think that it would be better to Main Event.

CENAtion

03-08-2009, 03:52 AM

These titles are sluts, they change owners every pay per view ;)

I agree, as a Cena fan it makes me miss his year long reign.

Tastycles

03-08-2009, 07:14 AM

It'll probably be Orton closing the show. However, if it is Hogan or Austin fighting Jericho, their return could warrant it being the last match on the card.

Esteban Ochocinco

03-08-2009, 07:32 PM

yeah, unfortunately that terrible promo from Raw mentioned a physical provocation clause in it, yawn, and then yawn, then, is this 2004, why are these two wrestling again? and then something about a kick then, oh wait, it's 2007, then something about a wife then, oh it's 2008 that's right, then something about collarbone, no wait, this is happening all again, and again, and again.

justinsayne

03-08-2009, 08:10 PM

I've said it before, I'll say it again, there was nothing wrong with that promo on Raw what so ever, not a danm fucking thing, it was packed with emotion, and furthered the feud, it was a solid fucking promo from beginning to fucking end, if you bias smarktards would step off the fucking Triple H blind hate train for five damn mins. you would see this

also Orton won the RR, for this reason alone his match should be the last match on the card, the RR winner should always, always have their match go on last at WM, and it should always be a one-on-one match, I could give a fuck less about the "feel good WM moment" at the end of the show, as long as they leave us with a solid match that has people talking

Esteban Ochocinco

03-08-2009, 08:28 PM

the promo was boring and repetitive. Triple H trying to play a bad ass is simply laughable at this point. Randy Orton more then surpasses the man on delivering and ability. Orton clearly is the better participant of the two. HD hasn't been kind to Triple H. He simply is beginning to look like a worn down old man, and like the Rock said all those years ago, Talksa Likea Disa. Ia Ama Da Gama Uh. It's weak, and it's the same olds hit, and it sucked.

The Todd

03-08-2009, 09:43 PM

These titles are sluts, they change owners every pay per view ;)

Yep, so what can wwe do that is shocking at WrestleMania after months of the titles changing hands? Both champions retain.

The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh

03-09-2009, 06:06 AM

Yep, so what can wwe do that is shocking at WrestleMania after months of the titles changing hands? Both champions retain.

Have HHH win a World title match at WM???????????????????

Well it has been like 5 or 6 years since he last managed it so i guess it's about time, plus it's been roughly 9 years since the Rumble winner DIDN'T win the title at Mania (excluding Cena using his at NWO) so maybe they'll do that too.

I can personally however, see both titles changing, and I'd prefer HBK v Taker closing the show, but i'm guessing it's going to be Orton/HHH, and i base that presumption on the whole McMahon involvement.