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Doctor_What
02-26-2009, 03:43 PM
The current belt was bought in by Cena a few years back and I personaly assumed it was meant to be his gimmick belt. However since its introduction the old wwe belt has dissapeered and the ugly spinning belt has been worn by Edge, RVD, Orton, Jeff Hardy and even Triple H! Admitidly it no longer spins but in my opinion it is a big ugly thing and looks rediculous around the waiste of any superstar. I always hated the WH championship belt which I always said looked too big and plastic but right now it looks better than the wwe belt! IMO its time to ditch the spinner.

Thoughts please

Splinter
02-26-2009, 03:48 PM
imo, the whc belt, formerly wcw whc belt ist the most beautiful belt ever. some time ago i've heard rumors that wwe would change it too, but thank god that didn't happen! i don't like the spinner belt either, it looks kinda gay with all that bling on it ;) i liked the old designs better, although the undisbuted belt looked crappy too.

PlayTheGame
02-26-2009, 03:49 PM
Theres already a thread on this. Actually, theres alot of threads on this.

The only reason its still around is cuz it sort of reflects the era were in right now in wrestling as a whole- the Cena era. Its also just sort of stuck around unfortunately. I wish they would just bring back the old Undisputed style belt- that belt was awesome. I hope they drop this one and bring it back soon, or create a new one altogether.

corvis
02-26-2009, 04:50 PM
Never been a big fan of the belt.

Yet the one gimmick belt I did like vanished back in 2000, when Austin lost it.

I dug that smoking skull belt, that being said I dig skull designs in general so I was easily swayed :icon_smile:

ulimate123
02-26-2009, 04:57 PM
I dont know why, but I just love the belt. It just looks right on superstars apart from the ones that are too serious. And like Game said, it reflects the Cena era and sadly as long as Cena is at his best, we'll always see the belt around.

pepentorresHHH
02-26-2009, 05:01 PM
i personally dont like the wwe spinner belt, dont get me wrong i though it looked cool when it was first brought in by Cena but in my opinion it should have had returned to a more classic look after John Cena got hurt and had to drop the belt after his 13 month title reign.

spiegs289
02-26-2009, 05:07 PM
The spinner-non-spinner belt is terrible. The best thing JBL ever did was blowing the US-spinner belt up on smackdown. Bring back the eagle belt

HHH=The Peoples King
02-26-2009, 05:09 PM
I liked it for a little just because i thought well it probley wont be around long, but now i hate it

hell the Rated R wwe title was better(not much but it was)
IMO they need to bring the old one back

but the WHC is my favorite

thesacredcow
02-26-2009, 05:10 PM
I know it's the title of being WWE Champion which is what wrestlers are really supposed to be pursuing, but that belt is the representation of the title, and to me it harms the credibility of the title WWE Champion. It looks like a fucking toy, which makes all these grown men who are chasing this belt seem like idiots in a way. I'm not saying it's turned the WWE Title into a joke, but it does take away from it slightly. In an era where WWE are trying to incorporate more of a sense of realism into the product (Big Shows shitty knockout punch, Undertaker adopting more of an MMA style of fighting) it damages that sense of realism. Could you imagine if that sort of belt was used in boxing? The guy who wore it would lose all credibility. Bring back the big eagle belt, that was the fucking coolest looking belt the WWE ever had

logan
02-26-2009, 05:12 PM
I dont think that the belts should be changed at all for any gimmick,I find it takes away from the legacy of the belt, The belt people fought for 20 years ago should be the one people fight for now, not a differnt style,I think of it like this, superstars grow up wanting to someday become the wwe champion and then they change the belt in which they always wanted to have straped on them ,It just dont make sense to me, but that aside there have been some awesome styles but i still think it shouldnt change.

rowdy ruben
02-26-2009, 06:01 PM
the only one who should of had a gimmick belt is stone cold steve austin. iv always hated that belt. wish wwe could go back to the wwe belt with the eagle. the one they had between 1999-2002

Blade
02-26-2009, 06:02 PM
As it's been said, it appeals to kids. It looks more like a toy than a world championship belt.

Personally, I love the belt it replaced, the undisputed title. That looked simple and dignified. I miss it...

AgeOfOrton
02-26-2009, 06:03 PM
New era - New belt nuff said

Taker123
02-26-2009, 06:34 PM
I think that since the WWE Championship belt being changed to the spinner belt it had cemented the fact that belts are now just props, they have no purpose now they have been diluted and worn down due to the amount of title changes that take place in the WWE, it isn't the same since great Sammartino held the belt for a significant period of time or the likes of ric flair. If it was me I would scrap the 2 belts now and bring back an undisputed WWE champion with a conventional style belt and bring some purpose, and legacy back to the belt with meaningfull title reigns and not so much changes. :undertaker2:

http://myfinecollectibles.com/Belts/undisputed_belt.jpg

crapamaniac
02-26-2009, 06:42 PM
Yes totally agree with most of you , when it was nwa vs wwf i too thought the nwa whc belt looked rank along side the great eagle belt of the wwf. Somehow i feel changing belt design or trophy design kind of takes a bit history and uniqueness from it , this is why the whc belt looks better than that toy they have for the wwe belt do they change the look of the super bowl trophy in US or the FA cup in the UK ? No cos people recognise that prize from history and they want to get their hands on history.
Bring back the old belt and while ya there scrap some of the meaningless belts we also put up with

ThAwRe$tLiNgGaWd
02-26-2009, 06:47 PM
I agree with the few that the spinner belt was indeed great in the beginning but over time it lost its appeal... the novelty kinda wore off. When Cena went down with his pec injury the WWE had a great opportunity to present a new legit title then but they chose to keep passing along a gimmick belt... maybe they should've kept in the Long Island Sound. I'd rather see the more classic style belts but with a more modern twist.

The_Phoenix
02-26-2009, 06:48 PM
I agree with the general consensus that the spinner belt looks horrible. Compared to the WHC belt and even the ECW belt it looks like a toy. Shockingly I feel like it's a bit too over the top and extravagant, almost like WWE tried too hard to make it look expensive/cool/eye-catching/whatever the fuck they were going for. Look at the WHC belt, simple design with no unneeded bells and whistles. Yet it still has character, you can tell there was such a time when that belt held prestige. For me personally it breaks down like this: Only certain performers make the WWE belt look good, where the WHC belt makes whoever is wearing it look great. It's a matter of consistently making the wearer look like a champion IMO.

JuviJuiceIsLoose
02-26-2009, 07:00 PM
I don't mind the way the WWE Championship looks. I think it was dope when Cena had it, but I think it does look a little silly when other people have it. I think it's fine nonetheless.

People say that the Spinner type belt diminishes the value of it, but they've customized the belt to fit the personality of the person holding it for years. I remember the different colored straps that the Ultimate Warrior.

Stone Cold had the Smoking Skull Belt and the Rock had a Brahma Bull Belt, because they fit their personalities.

I think Vince said it best when he said that the belts mean more to the fans then they do the people who hold it.

musgrove0311
02-26-2009, 07:29 PM
well yeah but the belts always changed back after they lost it tho. it isnt like dis wit cena's belt. I do think dat dey should hav switched the belt back (or got another 1) wen Cena lost it

Phoenix
02-26-2009, 07:41 PM
I agree with the general consensus that the spinner belt looks horrible. Compared to the WHC belt and even the ECW belt it looks like a toy. Shockingly I feel like it's a bit too over the top and extravagant, almost like WWE tried too hard to make it look expensive/cool/eye-catching/whatever the fuck they were going for. Look at the WHC belt, simple design with no unneeded bells and whistles. Yet it still has character, you can tell there was such a time when that belt held prestige. For me personally it breaks down like this: Only certain performers make the WWE belt look good, where the WHC belt makes whoever is wearing it look great. It's a matter of consistently making the wearer look like a champion IMO.

Totally agree. I feel it's the moment when John Cena went out of the rapper gimmick, that's when the belt lost its prestige!

I dread to think of the day that they make a spinner WHC when Cena holds it! God! WWE would lose all credibility by then, Vince Russo will be head writer when that happens!

PS - Nice name :)

Arrynboot
02-26-2009, 09:30 PM
They only kept the spinner coz the replica belts sell so well, other than that its useless

RATED R CHAMPION
02-26-2009, 11:00 PM
Well, Ahhh The Spinner Belt For Me Is Not Too Ugly, I Think Is A Great Belt, But The Problem Is That Is Cena's Creation.... So When You See Triple H, Edge Or Randy Orton With It, That Damn Belt Reminds You Cena. So I Think They Should Keep It Out When Cena Doesn't Have It, And When Someone Else Is The Champ, Bring Back The Old One, I Mean The Attitude Era Belt, Not The Undisputed Version, Which Was Great Too But I Like The Attitude Era Belt A Little Bit More......

suleman09
02-26-2009, 11:15 PM
finally someone talks about this

i dont like the WWE Championship!!!!
i want the old one back

avi01
02-27-2009, 05:23 AM
I hate it. The old one was just...always felt it was more prestigious. Cena`s CD title was ridiculous.

Phoenix
02-27-2009, 05:32 AM
I think the worst moment that confirmed it was staying was RVD (after winning it) saying "I like it, cause it spins!" WTF?! Seriously, RVD likes because it spins? At least WWE tried to do an Edge version, I wonder what the actual Rated R Belt would have looked like? (It was like the spinner due to time restrains and budgets). Come to think of it, when Edge had the WWE, why didn't he get his Rated R belt back?

Rusty
02-27-2009, 05:44 AM
I still don't get why everyone hates the new WWE Championship belt (which isn't so new as it's been around for almost 4 years now). It looks classy, rich and it definately looks like the top prize in the business. No matter who it is worn by, in my opinion it always looks great. And for all you smarks (opps, I mean "smart wrestling fans") who are saying get rid of the spinner, here's a newsflash: It hasn't spun for over a whole freaking year!

I still love the belt, not because John Cena introduced it (which is why everyone hates it) but because it looks awesome. If Edge or Randy Orton introduced that same belt, you'd love it too. But because Cena introduced it when he was starting to get booed by the fans, the belt is automatically disliked even though it looks better than all the current titles in the WWE. The old WWE Title (the one before Cena's 2005 reign) was just bland and boring to me. It didn't scream "World Champion". It just looked like it was another irrelevant title in the company.

As for the Winged Eagle, Attitude Era and all those other belts that are probably thrown in the bin by now, they are not coming back. The WWE has moved on, and the WWE Championship sells very big according to Jim Ross, more so than any other title has sold in the history of the company. That says something. The fans love the belt and the belt looks classy and it looks like it is only worthy to be hold by legitimate main eventers. Nobody looks stupid with it, if Triple H can look serious holding that WWE Title, than I'm sure the Undertaker can as well. It's just another lame reason to bash John Cena, but if you looked past all that bullshit, it actually truly is a superb looking title that should stick around for many years to come.

BeansOnToastUK
02-27-2009, 06:51 AM
I'll go with the general consensus that the WWE Championship Spinner Belt is not a good belt.

Any championship that has the word "CHAMP" written on it just de-values it's purpose. I personally have the attitude era belt which was held by Triple H, Stone Cold, The Rock and Chris Jericho.

These older championships were classic, simple and you knew what championship it was instantly. You would be honoured in holding them over your head. The current does really look too big and like a toy.

When did you see a boxer hold a belt that looks like the current WWE Championship?

Bring back the older basic titles !!

kaihorro
02-27-2009, 08:26 AM
ive kinda grown accustomed to the wwe title now

one hing i thought were really good is when edge had it n he had his own rated r emblem in the middle

when jeff won it i were kinda hoping that jeff would have had has emblem in the middle but thats jut me

for this era it fits but im not too bothered

ThAwRe$tLiNgGaWd
02-27-2009, 08:48 AM
Any championship that has the word "CHAMP" written on it just de-values it's purpose.

I agree... but my only concern is that since the title headed over to Smackdown did WWE ever bother to remove "Mon-Nite Raw" buckle on the side of the belt? It has Cena's old chain and padlock emblem. I haven't seen recent pics of the title but have always hoped that something WWE didn't overlook something like that... thats why it was a gimmick belt.

Phoenix
02-27-2009, 09:12 AM
I agree... but my only concern is that since the title headed over to Smackdown did WWE ever bother to remove "Mon-Nite Raw" buckle on the side of the belt? It has Cena's old chain and padlock emblem. I haven't seen recent pics of the title but have always hoped that something WWE didn't overlook something like that... thats why it was a gimmick belt.

After reading this post and had a look around for when Jeff Hardy won the title. As you can see it has the Raw logo, but then this could easily be the belt Edge had when he first won the title.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/684/jh2fo9.jpg

I think the title did lose the Mon-Nite Raw when Jeff got it.

One thing I just thought, since NWO, we haven't seen Triple H with the belt, a possible change of look for the title in the mix?

CenaSux4Life78
02-27-2009, 02:23 PM
I HATE the "spinner" belt. It was fine as a novelty for Cena's first reign as chump, I mean champ. It was fine for Edge to add his own "spin" on it making it Rated R, just for the Cena/Edge storyline. But that was a long time ago. Both characters have changed, and it does not represent them, or anyone else for that matter now. Like I said at the beginning, good novelty value. But like all novelty, it wears off over time. Cena's "spinner" belts time is now over.

ChrisKessaris
02-28-2009, 04:28 PM
The current belt is still around because WWE wants to go PG and appearently the most requested item at the make a wish visits is the WWE "Spinner" belt. So they keep the old Ric Flair belt around to appease the general wrestling fan like you and I, but they keep the Spinnerooni belt around for merchandising purposes. I don't like it personally, the Winged Eagle belt is by far the best World belt they've ever had. From the time Robin Leech brought it down on the velvet pillow at WM4 to when Austin threw it down for the Blue Attitude belt the night after WM14, that belt was always awesome. Ever since they changed that and the IC belt it just hasn't been the same. Maybe someday they'll make a belt I actually think looks cool.

World Belt - good
IC belt - meh, old one is better
WWE belt - I'd rather see a Styrofoam belt than this one out there
Women's - meh, just keep it on Melina or Beth Phoenix
US - what was wrong the with the WCW one? At least they changed it back once Cena lost it
ECW - At first I thought it was a black and chrome liscense plate
WWE tag - good
World tag - ...not that great
Dvias -...

Rusty
03-01-2009, 01:49 AM
At least WWE tried to do an Edge version, I wonder what the actual Rated R Belt would have looked like? (It was like the spinner due to time restrains and budgets). Come to think of it, when Edge had the WWE, why didn't he get his Rated R belt back?

Because Edge's WWE Title belt absolutely fucking sucked. It was a disgrace to wrestling in general.

I love it how everyone hates The WWE Championship belt because "John Cena introduced it", but yet the Edge Rated R Spinner belt which absolutely sucked and look ugly, was only exclusive to Edge. Once again, you people judge a World Title belt not on appearance, but on who created the belt.

Nobody can honestly tell me the Rated R Spinner belt looked good. Sure, it suited Edge's gimmick, but it ONLY suited him and the belt looked like a prop, something the WWE Championship is still often referred to. Having the word "Champ" written on a WWE Title belt suits everyone, unlike having "The Rated R Superstar" written on a belt that can basically only be worn by Edge as it would look pathetic on anyone else.

The bottom line is, Cena's WWE Title (even though he hasn't held that Title since 2007) looks far superior and works with a number of different superstars, hell any superstar could look cool with it, and yes even the Undertaker. Edge's WWE Title Spinner was fricken ugly, and the spinner centerpiece didn't match the rest of the belt at all. Yet, the belt is praised because it was held by your God, Edge.

For the love of God, stop being blinded by your love for Edge and admit the current WWE Championship is one of the best looking titles in the business today.

Phoenix
03-01-2009, 05:20 AM
Woah Woah Woah there Spunky, as much as I like Edge for his mike work and his ability to make a story work, I wasn't praising him purely because he got his own belt, It could alot more original than just having Cena's original belt with Edge's symbol on it, but in the end it was done for story purposes, it was done to say "This is the end of Cena's reign", it really was a prop for storyline purposes.

I honestly thought the "Cena" belt alright to begin with but I can't take it seriously, I would much rather have the Attitude Era belt back more than anything, nothing to do with my love for Edge, just purely because that Belt looked like something worthy to call yourself champion for! I'm glad Undertaker has only been holding the World Title right now, because if I see Taker and that spinner belt...god help us!

XxHardyFan4LyfxX
03-01-2009, 08:31 AM
well IMO it is jus a gimmik that is getting stale and more stale each title change bring back the title from 98-02 or 02-05

BeansOnToastUK
03-01-2009, 01:50 PM
[QUOTE=Phoenix;886989]After reading this post and had a look around for when Jeff Hardy won the title. As you can see it has the Raw logo, but then this could easily be the belt Edge had when he first won the title.

I think the title did lose the Mon-Nite Raw when Jeff got it.

The belt has always had the Raw logo on the side since it was created. It is something my friend always looks out for because it bothers him lol. It is really silly though that you have had the belt on Smackdown now for over a year and it still isn't correct!

ad21k
03-01-2009, 01:58 PM
Theres nothing wrong with the belt in my opinion. It will get changed somepoint down the line, but for the moment it looks fine. All the fans have gotten used to it and it actualy doesn't look that bad. As for diminishing its credibility, thats a load of rubbish. The WHC looks like a 'normal title' and is no more credibile than the WWE title. The only thing that made it look silly was the spinner and they got rid of that and it looks fine now. It also stands out which is a good thing because it helps people focus their eyes on the champion.

WrestlingHistorian
03-01-2009, 02:08 PM
As far as the WWE Championship belt is concerned I wish they would go back to the undisputed look, the same one thats on the "History of the WWE Champoinship" DVD case, it was a nice design and there was no reason to introduce this current version of it. But it looks as if it's sticking around, no biggie though as the belt is just a representation of the title, it is not the title in itself.