Live Discussion: Raw 12/29/08

[C.M.V.P]

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Race to the Rumble

Each victorious against four other former World Champions on Raw, the quartet of Randy Orton, JBL, HBK and Chris Jericho meet in a Fatal Four Way Elimination Match to determine who will face John Cena for the World Heavyweight Title at the Royal Rumble.

[Rusty]

Me thinks Jericho will win so he can have a gimmick match with Cena at the Royal Rumble. Orton is my 2nd pick.

[jay07]

i think ortons winning this tonight jericho 2nd

[Harthan]

Won't be in tonight, gonna be away. Have to catch this one on Youtube.

For what it's worth, I'm expecting either:

A) JBL with the more obvious victory, probably with HBK lying down

B) A more shocking and interesting HBK victory of some sort

I think they'd be better served to do HBK/Cena at NWO if they do it at all, since the Rumble will sell no matter what the undercard is. But they could stack the card up nice for us with another HBK/Cena match.

[OIL]

Orton to win this

Lose at the Rumble, win the Rumble then go on to face Cena again at WrestleMania.

[Steamboat Ricky]

Orton wins tonight. Wins at the Rumble. Cena wins Rumble or Elimination Chamber. Cena wins @ Mania.

[Rusty]

I still don't know why people want to see another John Cena vs Randy Orton match at Wrestlemania. It seems like a waste of a Mania main event to me. Let the young guns shine this year.

[OIL]

Have you not seen how amazing Orton is?

[Lee]

I still don't know why people want to see another John Cena vs Randy Orton match at Wrestlemania. It seems like a waste of a Mania main event to me. Let the young guns shine this year.

Triple H v HBK then?

[Rusty]

CM Punk vs John Cena would be good, especially if Cena put Punk over.

[Steamboat Ricky]

CM Punk vs John Cena would be good, especially if Cena put Punk over.

Maybe in SD v. Raw 2009

[Steamboat Ricky]

Maybe in SD v. Raw 2009

Then you could also make it be a Triple Hell in a Cell Elimination Chamber Match

[OIL]

CM Punk vs John Cena would be good, especially if Cena put Punk over.

Perhaps, but they need to build Punk up more. A strong IC title reign would help him, maybe SummerSlam 09?

[Rusty]

But seriously, it would make Punk look like a legitimate main eventer. And there's no other upper mid-carders that deserve a push to the top. I don't want to see a match that I've seen at other pay per views before. That's defeating the purpose of the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania.

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

Have you not seen how amazing Orton is?

good ol Randy Boreton.

I like em, but I'm not that impressed with him..

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

if Punk wins another meaningful event, I'll hang myself.

[Steamboat Ricky]

But seriously, it would make Punk look like a legitimate main eventer. And there's no other upper mid-carders that deserve a push to the top. I don't want to see a match that I've seen at other pay per views before. That's defeating the purpose of the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania.

WHY would you put someone in the main event of not only Wrestlemania....but WRESTLEMANIA 25....if he was not yet an established, legitimate main-eventer???

Punk in the main event of Mania 25 would be the WORST decision WWE ever made.

[OIL]

But seriously, it would make Punk look like a legitimate main eventer. And there's no other upper mid-carders that deserve a push to the top. I don't want to see a match that I've seen at other pay per views before. That's defeating the purpose of the Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania.

One of the main purposes of WrestleMania is to stack all of the biggest stars onto the show, and create a card that is jam packed with matches featuring the biggest names in the industry in the main events. So, why would Punk fit into that category? I see your point in wanting to freshen it up, and it would give Punk a HUGE push, but it just wouldn't happen.

[klunderbunker]

Yeah Punk in WM 25 wouldn't work. WM 25 needs to have the biggest matches possible. Punk could be in one of the bigger matches if pushed right, but the main event would just not work. Maybe at 26 though.

[jay07]

hey guys im here tonight only 8 more mins

[OIL]

You all heard about Christian?

Very close to a deal with the WWE.

Once I figure out how to post the spoiler thing, I'll tell you the apparant future plans.

[Leeds Guy]

You all heard about Christian?

Very close to a deal with the WWE.

Once I figure out how to post the spoiler thing, I'll tell you the apparant future plans.

i have
it should be interesting if it all goes to plan

[OIL]

Rawww

[theBusiness]

I dread to say, but hopefully JBL wins tonight.

1) I want to see Jericho in the Rumble
2) I want to see another HBK-Taker confrontation
3) I want Orton to face Cena at Mania

Should be a good RAW.

[OIL]

JBL needs to go home.

[klunderbunker]

This could be......not sure yet.

[CDR]

A Rey-HBK feud? Not diggin it.

[OIL]

Just a filler match for the Rumble i'm guessing.

[Leeds Guy]

why does.....Rey Mysterio.......Talk Like This.....

[CDR]

why does.....Rey Mysterio.......Talk Like This.....

It's.... dramatic.... effect

[OIL]

Interesting

[klunderbunker]

This was predictable, but even still he's getting on my nerves.

[CCS]

the christian plans are kick ass.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

This storyline is actually getting pretty good

[OIL]

I find th JBL/HBK thing interesting, even though I hate JBL.

[klunderbunker]

Now I feel like I'm watching TNA.

[OIL]

Mike Knox is terrible. 5 months of ripping into people & he will be gone.

[CDR]

the christian plans are kick ass.

The way y'all talk about it almost makes me wanna go read it

[Mighty NorCal]

when was the last time Knox actually even wrestled a fuckin match

[OIL]

Read it. They're awesome.

[Leeds Guy]

this build up to the rumble must be boring the crap out of Cena. this is the 2nd week in a row he's had nothing to do but get involved in pointless matches

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

when was the last time Knox actually even wrestled a fuckin match

It hasn't been since he switched brands and the last month or so he was on ECW he wasn't on tv

[NightShiftLoser]

A stable of JBL-HBK-Knox? WTF?

Odd...

[ad21k]

Yawn... why have Mysterio open the show, nobody cares. A diva match would have probably been more entertaining than him on the mic.

[CDR]

I read them. I guess the way y'all built them up made not as great but they're still pretty good

[jay07]

what the fuck a tna impact advert on wwe's sky sports??????????

[Slyfox696]

Randy Orton is so stupid to have so many tattoos. Makes him look ridiculous.

[theBusiness]

snuka in legacy!?

[Steamboat Ricky]

I'm pumppppped about Legacy

[OIL]

what the fuck a tna impact advert on wwe's sky sports??????????

I was surprised.

Also, it was terrible. 'TNA is coming to the.. TNA is coming to the.. TNA is coming to the..'

[NightShiftLoser]

Randy Orton is so stupid to have so many tattoos. Makes him look ridiculous.

Agreed. From a distance, it makes his arms look dirty.

This is my first time watching RAW in a while, and Snuka/Deuce looks like deuce

:lmao:

[CCS]

Christian vs Jeff at mania. christian's the guy who attacked Jeff a few months back. I'm not sure if it's a title match

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

The fightingest IC champ in history, William Regal

[Mighty NorCal]

WHOO here comes Regal, to do nothing, like every week

[Steamboat Ricky]

Regal costs Punk the match...predictable.

[NightShiftLoser]

WHOO here comes Regal, to do nothing, like every week

I miss WCW Regal...

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Well, if Cody is out of Legacy if he loses then there is no way Punk wins

[OIL]

He is killing the KotR thing, seriously.

No-one even cares that he won, it achieved nothing.

Well, it was good until he got suspended of course. Major heel thang.

[jay07]

we want christian we want christian we want christian we want christian we want christian we want christian

[ad21k]

Punk's matches are sooo boring zzzzzz....

[wabash23]

punk's got a nasty bruise on his thigh

[Steamboat Ricky]

Somebody's been sucking on Punk's hip.

[jay07]

punk's got a nasty bruise on his thigh


someone slapped him to hard jericho im looking at you

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Punk definitely got the worst of that

[klunderbunker]

Holy cheap finish batman.

[OIL]

Oh how predictable - rubbish.

[Steamboat Ricky]

Regal in WCW was a fatty boy

[The Bearded One]

yep...we all saw that one coming...we all know manu and snuka will win too

[jay07]

booooooooooooo

[NightShiftLoser]

Regal in WCW was a fatty boy

His matches weren't bad though...

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

That was the most intense action I've seen Regal do in months

[Steamboat Ricky]

Lmfao

[wabash23]

cena's harry carey is pretty good

[NightShiftLoser]

yep...we all saw that one coming...we all know manu and snuka will win too

Hopefully Snuka loses...

[jay07]

Save us_Christian. post this 3 times or you will find a goldust in your bed


and cena you are not funny

[klunderbunker]

Monkey just marked out to no end.

[theBusiness]

cena is not funny.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

I thoroughly enjoyed that promo. I love Harry Caray impersonations

[Steamboat Ricky]

Cena > Tazz, Foley, King, Zbysko, all put together.

[The Bearded One]

Hopefully Snuka loses...

i hope so too, but that would make him changing from deuce completely pointless.
woohoo kelly kelly is up next!

[Leeds Guy]

i also didnt find that cena promo to be particularly funny, it kinda got annoying fast. hes done much better

[OIL]

Steph is hot.

Just sayin'.

[jay07]

Save us_Christian post this 3 times or czena will try to be funny for a whole week non stop

[Steamboat Ricky]

Jay, you're making me not want Christian to come back.

[Steamboat Ricky]

Cena will be guest referee?

[jay07]

Steph is hot.

Just sayin'.

hey hey hey keep it at PG level mate were are suspose to be admiring czena impressions that are kinda crap

[NightShiftLoser]

i hope so too, but that would make him changing from deuce completely pointless.
woohoo kelly kelly is up next!

He can't help but be completely useless...Winning does nothing for him. Losing gives him an automatic feud, or his walking papers.

[Leeds Guy]

Holy shit i forgot about 24 back next month

[jay07]

oh shit who didnt post 3 times goldust is here

[ad21k]

wtf is this shit

[NightShiftLoser]

I liked the part about Cody...

[klunderbunker]

That was funny. Like a messed up semi-shoot.

[jay07]

how many hospital videos have we seen this year man there have been loads thre should be a best of 2008 injury videos

[theBusiness]

wow they're trying to say cena and batista injured each other at summerslam to further the hype to their inevitable rematch.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Why must they show us those?

[The Bearded One]

Yesssssssss! Kelly Kelly!!!!

[Steamboat Ricky]

K_K is easily the best diva there is, foo.

[NightShiftLoser]

K-Squared FTW

Is she wearing anything under those pants???

[The Bearded One]

You're welcome Jerry, we know how to make 'em here.

[CCS]

I just marked out for Kelly's ass in HD.

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

Cody wanted a bike... Boy was he mad, when I gave it to dad... :lmao: epic..

[hardrocker488]

Haha. Lilian said Mickie was from Louisville. Way to make it obvious you messed up Lilian

[NightShiftLoser]

I just marked out for Kelly's ass in HD.

I don't have HD, but it looks pretty good for a 52" TV

[jay07]

how dare tna gets on sky sports i dont get it are sky sports and tna got a secret deal going

[CCS]

It always looked good. But now im in love with it.

[Slyfox696]

wow they're trying to say cena and batista injured each other at summerslam to further the hype to their inevitable rematch.Yes, how completely awful that must be. :rolleyes:

Or wait...maybe they actually DID hurt each other...hmm...

[theBusiness]

How dare they cut Santino time?

[Slyfox696]

How dare they cut Santino time?

Because he sucks. That's why they dare.

[jay07]

How dare they cut Santino time?


its distgusting its horrible its WWE

[klunderbunker]

Hey hey hey. Santino needs time. Who else is going to put America to sleep tonight?

[The Bearded One]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kelly's gone

[Slyfox696]

Hey hey hey. Santino needs time. Who else is going to put America to sleep tonight?Well, I would say CM Punk, but he's already appeared tonight.

[Steamboat Ricky]

she looks like a gypsy

[CCS]

They have remotes for a reason. If you think RAW sucks change the channel.

[Leeds Guy]

hahaha ''she looks like a gypsy''

[The Bearded One]

haha "Out goes the garbage"

[theBusiness]

"Holy Macaroni" hahahah

[OIL]

'Holy Macaroni!' is the best line ever haha!

[jay07]

"Holy Macaroni" hahahah

i laughed a bit at that santinos a funny guy suprised his balls didnt get hit in that brawl

[ad21k]

Well, I would say CM Punk, but he's already appeared tonight.

haha sooo true

[OIL]

Haha!

[NightShiftLoser]

Did Cole just say Snucka??

[The Bearded One]

Oh




My




God

[OIL]

That was pretty funny, lol

[jay07]

They have remotes for a reason. If you think RAW sucks change the channel.

if i thought it sucked i would be screwed 2am uk tv sucks there is just buy things channel bits of (crap)porn and black and white films

[klunderbunker]

That had me thinking it would be Snuka for a minute.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Did you see his face when the music came on?

[NightShiftLoser]

That had me thinking it would be Snuka for a minute.

Would've been too good of an idea to have them fight their relatives...

[jay07]

Did Cole just say Snucka??

i wouldnt be suprised if he even said jimmy snickers

[The Bearded One]

Am I the only one who thinks that including Sim into Legacy would destroy it?

[theBusiness]

I miss the heel King.

I can't stand him being face.

[Steamboat Ricky]

Haas looks really good in the ring.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Damn, what a kick

[NightShiftLoser]

Snuka still sucks. I think it's clear he only missed ring time, so he can grow his hair...

[OIL]

Did he just say a ten man tag match?

[theBusiness]

Am I the only one who thinks that including Sim into Legacy would destroy it?

I agree.

The guy should've been released months ago.

[jay07]

i think he did

[Slyfox696]

John Cena = the best wrestler in the world.

Without a doubt

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

Hey hey hey. Santino needs time. Who else is going to put America to sleep tonight?

Randy Ortons lackluster Promo's?

[jay07]

i hope raw can get better im seriously tired and it might make me fall asleep in a min

[jay07]

John Cena = the best wrestler in the world.

Without a doubt

czena suxs lol

[Slyfox696]

czena suxs lol
He's the World Champion.

He's the best.

[NightShiftLoser]

Thousands of little girls just creamed themselves...

[klunderbunker]

That little girl's face was the absolute funniest thing I've seen on WWE this year.

[jay07]

He's the World Champion.

He's the best.


better than all the rest?????

[OIL]

Mysterio just got the worst pop ever, lol

[NightShiftLoser]

That little girl's face was the absolute funniest thing I've seen on WWE this year.

I didn't even see it...I was too busy typing my post :lmao:

[ad21k]

HA nobody cares about Mysterio anymore

[Slyfox696]

better than all the rest?????Yes

Hasn't he beat all the other ones?

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Why do they keep telling us that John Cena is spoiling for a fight?

[The Bearded One]

Was the pop that bad or is the crowd just dead?

[OIL]

YERRR! Kofi!

[Monkey Winchester]

Monkey just marked out to no end.

This whole show has been markworthy.

JBL

Cody winning

Rey getting the SHIT kicked out of him

Stephanie as beautiful as ever

Cenas damn hilarious Harry Carry promo

Everything so far. I quite like this show so far.

[jay07]

me think cryme tyme

[klunderbunker]

I was meaning when he was talking abotu Smokey and the Bandit.

[The Bearded One]

So who joins Mike Knox on the other team? Kane, M & M and who?

[jay07]

Yes

Hasn't he beat all the other ones?

ok ok except christian cage i will agree:thumbsup:

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Wow, 1 week Kane is kicking the Miz's ass and now they are teaming together

[NightShiftLoser]

This is RAW mid-carders & Cena v. ECW

:wtf:

[klunderbunker]

Has he ever cleanly pinned Orton?

[Leeds Guy]

Wait so kane chokeslams and tombstones miz and then 2 weeks later there teaming together????

[jay07]

ok this team is dead already

[CDR]

Dolph F'n Ziggler

[NightShiftLoser]

Girlie pop for Cena v. NorCal's pop for Dolph

NorCal pop FTW

[Slyfox696]

ok ok except christian cage i will agree:thumbsup:
Didn't he beat him at Vengeance 2005?

[roujinziro]

Ziggler isn't undefeated, didn't he get fed to Batista in his 'first' match?

[The Bearded One]

My questions been answered, its the zig

[klunderbunker]

Kane is more successful than 7 others in there.

Think about that for just a second.

[NightShiftLoser]

Kane is more successful than 7 others in there.

Think about that for just a second.

Cena...Mysterio...Morrison?

[Slyfox696]

Kane is more successful than 7 others in there.

Think about that for just a second.
He's also been wrestling longer than those 7..combined. Or at least close to it.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Ziggler isn't undefeated, didn't he get fed to Batista in his 'first' match?

I don't remember how it ended, but I think you're right. Or it was dq or some bullshit like that

[jay07]

Didn't he beat him at Vengeance 2005?


hey that was a triple threat he got tired killin jericho and cena took advantage but cena has never ever ever beat christian one on one

[Slyfox696]

Wait so kane chokeslams and tombstones miz and then 2 weeks later there teaming together????By order of Steph McMahon

[klunderbunker]

Cole saying nothing made me laugh.

[klunderbunker]

By order of Steph McMahon

Likely leading to that epic Miz/Kane feud.

[Slyfox696]

hey that was a triple threat he got tired killin jericho and cena took advantage but cena has never ever ever beat christian one on oneOk, well Cena beat Kurt Angle...and Kurt Angle beat Christian

Thus, Cena > Angle > Christian

[Slyfox696]

Likely leading to that epic Miz/Kane feud.

With Kane, you KNOW it'll draw money.

[Monkey Winchester]

I was meaning when he was talking abotu Smokey and the Bandit.


This too. I love that movie.

[Marquis]

Likely leading to that epic Miz/Kane feud.

Finally, been waiting all year for it.

[NightShiftLoser]

Miz isn't doing that bad...Sold that semi-failed hurracanrana

[jay07]

Ok, well Cena beat Kurt Angle...and Kurt Angle beat Christian

Thus, Cena > Angle > Christian


but christian beat edge though



Cena > Angle > Christian > Edge

[klunderbunker]

Only Kane feud that interests me in the slightest is Kane/Orton. No idea why.

[Mighty NorCal]

Czena sux

[Slyfox696]

Cena's the best in the world.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

So, what exactly are they trying to do w/ Mike Knox by having attack cruiserweights from behind?

[NightShiftLoser]

Did we seriously get a useless beard fact?

Do we need to know how old Knox's beard is?

[Mighty NorCal]

Czena us the only white guy on his team. Street cred FTW

[Tang]

LMAO.

Cole: I hear that the beard Knox wears is over one year old.
King: Good god.

Really?

Reallyyy guys?

lol Wow.

[NightShiftLoser]

So, what exactly are they trying to do w/ Mike Knox by having attack cruiserweights from behind?

Turn him into Khali

The Knox Kiss Cam will sell dozens...

[The Bearded One]

So, what exactly are they trying to do w/ Mike Knox by having attack cruiserweights from behind?

They want to get that awesome beard on tv and thats the way they went about it.

[klunderbunker]

Closest thing to old school Rey in months.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

That was pretty sweet

[NightShiftLoser]

Czena us the only white guy on his team. Street cred FTW

I wanted to say it was The Minorities v. ECW

Sounded kinda racist...

[jay07]

Czena sux


i said that 10 mins ago leading into me and slyfox into christian cage vs cena arguement

[klunderbunker]

Cena > Christian.

Most > Christian.

[The Bearded One]

that was the moment we've all been waiting for

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Boom boom boom 5 knuckle shuffle combo FTW

[jay07]

Cena > Christian.

Most > Christian.


christian > most > cena

[klunderbunker]

Decent way to get all of them on Raw.

[NightShiftLoser]

Boom boom boom 5 knuckle shuffle combo FTW

No.


I forgot Cryme Tyme was in the match...

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Cryme Tyme definitely won the match for their team tho

[klunderbunker]

christian > most > cena

Yes. At being overrated beyond all belief. Christian is average at best. Never been anything more.

[wabash23]

haha i liked the kofi/cena boom shuffle, too

[NightShiftLoser]

haha i liked the kofi/cena boom shuffle, too

I liked my ex...'Til I got that itchy burning sensation.

Cena/Kofi combo = burning urination

[jay07]

Yes. At being overrated beyond all belief. Christian is average at best. Never been anything more.

yes thats your opinion i think christian is a hell of a lot better cena hey it my opinion christian is entertaining cena is boring you prob think diffrent but thats your view

[theBusiness]

whos manu face?

Finlay? D'lo Brown? Hacksaw?

[klunderbunker]

Gotta love the "it's my opinion arguments". Always make me laugh.

[CDR]

Orton??

[Tyrath]

Kelly and Orton?!

[klunderbunker]

Aww. That was just flat out bad.

[Marquis]

Kelly passed up the Miz for Orton!? Shame on you Kelly.

[The Bearded One]

I wonder what WWE didn't beat?
Oooooh Kelly Kelly!!
and RKO!!!
He's the man!
They'd make beautiful babies

[Mighty NorCal]

oh SHIT it was ORTON, and he just made kelly a trash bag ho!!!! :lmao:

[roujinziro]

That was a lame segment, people know Orton is married.

[klunderbunker]

Did he just say SD's Matt Hardy?

Gotta love the way the rosters are set up now.

[NightShiftLoser]

Orton tapped dat :ass:

And...How is ECW's champ, Smackdown's Matt Hardy?????

[jay07]

ok then its a fact cena sucks

[The Bearded One]

Matt FREAKIN Hardy?!?!
As Jerry Lawler put it, Smackdown's Matt Hardy

[ad21k]

ECW champion is gonna job again?

[Slyfox696]

christian > most > cena
How many titles has this "Most" character won?

Because Cena's won several..and is the current World Champion.


Cena > Most

[theBusiness]

Kane interferes and costs Orton the fatal 4 way?

and is it going to go by elimination or first pinfall/submission?

anyone Know?

[klunderbunker]

I never get tired of WWE trying to recreate the Horsemen. It is never going to happen. Same with the NWO.

[klunderbunker]

Kane interferes and costs Orton the fatal 4 way?

and is it going to go by elimination or first pinfall/submission?

anyone Know?

Pretty sure they said it was elimination.

[roujinziro]

Manu is gonna win by count out or DQ.

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I don't think Manu is gonna win.

[NightShiftLoser]

Does this mean Kane goes face with Kelly, to beat down RKO?

[klunderbunker]

Does Manu ahve a finisher?

[jay07]

How many titles has this "Most" character won?

Because Cena's won several..and is the current World Champion.


Cena > Most

christian has won a hell of a lot more titles than cena anyday


i liked cena in 07 i thought he was underrated but seriously he sucks now

[wabash23]

anyone else wish that they'd bring Stryker up to raw in place of Cole. Atleast then we'd get some interesting trivia rather than how old Knox's beard is.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

I can't see Manu losing. I think Snuka was the only one who had a shot at losing

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Does Manu ahve a finisher?

I think he throws them up in the air and catches them in a neckbreaker

[Marquis]

Does Manu ahve a finisher?

I think its some type of kick.

[NightShiftLoser]

That was a badly failed Meanie Flip

[Slyfox696]

christian has won a hell of a lot more titles than cena anyday Really?

Christian: 2 TNA World Titles

John Cena: 4 WWE World Titles


So, unless 2 somehow became greater than 4, I'm afraid your mistaken. And, considering Christian wasn't good enough to win WWE World Titles, I rest my case.

i liked cena in 07 i thought he was underrated but seriously he sucks nowYeah? Why is that? Because more people like him, so now it's elitist to boo him again?

[klunderbunker]

Sly save your time. He's not worth it.

[Slyfox696]

Sly save your time. He's not worth it.I beg to differ.

It's always fun to educate the unlearned.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

I hate Cole's commentary

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Don't embarrass the poor guy Sly

[Lee]

oh SHIT it was ORTON, and he just made kelly a trash bag ho!!!! :lmao:

all good stables need a ho bag.

[The Bearded One]

Really?

Christian: 2 TNA World Titles

John Cena: 4 WWE World Titles


So, unless 2 somehow became greater than 4, I'm afraid your mistaken. And, considering Christian wasn't good enough to win WWE World Titles, I rest my case.

Yeah? Why is that? Because more people like him, so now it's elitist to boo him again?

I'm not 100% sure, but he could be talking about all titles, such as tag team and whatnot.

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

I stand corrected

[klunderbunker]

I beg to differ.

It's always fun to educate the unlearned.

Educating is one thing but it's quite another when they're just never going to listen.

[Steamboat Ricky]

cya Manu

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Good bye Manu

[The Bearded One]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snuka but not Manu?

[CDR]

D.a.m.n.i.t.

[klunderbunker]

Thank goodness.

[NightShiftLoser]

Hmm...Manu and Umaga together soon? I've been waiting for the New Headshrinkers...

[Thriller City Machine Guns]

Will they really kick him out? What else do they have for Manu to do?

[Slyfox696]

Educating is one thing but it's quite another when they're just never going to listen.
Yes, but it's fun just the same.NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Snuka but not Manu?
Well, we already know that Manu sucks. So, at least Snuka has a chance.