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OIL
12-17-2008, 02:20 PM
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Lesnar said in an interview a while back that he was more than happy to return for WrestleMania and put someone over.

So, would he return full time?

Should Vince take up the WM offer?

IMO, Lesnar wouldn't return unless he got bored with UFC.

Vince SHOULD take up the offer, because of the hype that would surround the match. Lesnar is a freaking huge name. Now UFC Champion, even bigger.

Although, while contracted with the UFC he won't be allowed to return.

Esteban Ochocinco
12-17-2008, 02:22 PM
Vince McMahon would beg Brock Lesnar to comeback at this point. I said in another thread, Brock is a bigger name then anyone in the WWE right now, and he's pushing UFC buys threw the roof. He's a guy people love to hate, but he's damn talented and scary in the octagon.

OIL
12-17-2008, 02:24 PM
Vince McMahon would beg Brock Lesnar to comeback at this point. I said in another thread, Brock is a bigger name then anyone in the WWE right now, and he's pushing UFC buys threw the roof. He's a guy people love to hate, but he's damn talented and scary in the octagon.

Apparently Vince rejected the idea, I have no idea why though. It makes perfect business sense. He would be a bigger draw than Mayweather.

Well, Cena or Lesnar. Both huge in their own rights.

klunderbunker
12-17-2008, 02:25 PM
If Vince can get him, absolutely he should take him up on it. UFC is blowing WWE away right now, and they could definitely use the cross promotion. It's not like Brock would have to train hard for a month run in WWE as UFC training is much harder. Brock could add another WM to his resume, and if for some reason UFC falls through (which would take an absolute act of god at this point), it would give him more cards to play on getting a huge WWE contract if he wanted it. "Hey, remember that time when I was on top of the world and reached down to pull you up a bit Vince?" That's at least a few hundred thousand more a year.

OIL
12-17-2008, 02:27 PM
If Vince can get him, absolutely he should take him up on it. UFC is blowing WWE away right now, and they could definitely use the cross promotion. It's not like Brock would have to train hard for a month run in WWE as UFC training is much harder. Brock could add another WM to his resume, and if for some reason UFC falls through (which would take an absolute act of god at this point), it would give him more cards to play on getting a huge WWE contract if he wanted it. "Hey, remember that time when I was on top of the world and reached down to pull you up a bit Vince?" That's at least a few hundred thousand more a year.

I'm guessing his UFC contract means he can't appear for the WWE though?

klunderbunker
12-17-2008, 02:29 PM
I'm assuming so, but I can't imagine Dana White would have an issue with it if it was for WM. Wrestling is dying but WM is still one of the biggest things in the world.

OIL
12-17-2008, 02:31 PM
I'm assuming so, but I can't imagine Dana White would have an issue with it if it was for WM. Wrestling is dying but WM is still one of the biggest things in the world.

It would give UFC a huge boost, having it's star man at WM.

Having Brock lose to say, Cena, while Brock is UFC Champion could prove to be a huge match for the WWE.

klunderbunker
12-17-2008, 02:32 PM
Yeah, but then it makes UFC look weak because their top guy loses to a fake wrestler.

Esteban Ochocinco
12-17-2008, 02:32 PM
Dana White actually respects the hell out of the WWE and Vince McMahon, but I don't think it's mutual.

Brock said that a few years ago, but that was before he became this MMA star, and was still big time in Japan. Brock was being negotiated to comeback in 2005 to face Batista at Summerslam, but apparantely the two just couldn't agree on shit.

klunderbunker
12-17-2008, 02:33 PM
Why do I have a feeling that Vince was the main one disagreeing.

OIL
12-17-2008, 03:02 PM
Yeah, but then it makes UFC look weak because their top guy loses to a fake wrestler.

Maybe. But I think even the UFC fans can appreciate that wrestling is a form of entertainment, not 'fake'.

Minor League Brian
12-17-2008, 03:46 PM
The fans wouldn't, but I think the likes of Dana and them realize exactly what they put their body through. I mean, if a Wrestler takes a bump and gets a concusion, he's out there the next night performing half the time. A UFC fighter is out of action for 6 months. Maybe its not a legit sport, but I'd say they sure as hell put a lot more stress on their bodies them some fighters.

Oh, and I think McMahon respects the UFC fighters, just not the company and that comes from just a business sense.

I also don't think Lesnar will return, but that's just me. He may have said he would, but it may have been him playing the "nice" guy and even if he was being serious; Vince wouldn't let it happen, then again imagine the buys and we all know how they want to put Cena even more over...Just imagine the UFC/WWE possible Juggernaut.

Harthan
12-17-2008, 03:55 PM
Lesnar vs Hogan would put the WM buyrate through the roof.

Just sayin'.

OIL
12-17-2008, 03:58 PM
Lesnar vs Hogan would put the WM buyrate through the roof.

Just sayin'.

For the love of all that is holy, please, let's never have Hogan back wrestling.

Harthan
12-17-2008, 04:02 PM
For the love of all that is holy, please, let's never have Hogan back wrestling.

Why exactly would you not want the single greatest wrestler of all time back wrestling? Even if he's past his physical prime, he would still be incredible to have back.

OIL
12-17-2008, 04:12 PM
Why exactly would you not want the single greatest wrestler of all time back wrestling? Even if he's past his physical prime, he would still be incredible to have back.

He would be incredible to have back for an apperance, but as far as wrestling? No way. The man should be retired from the ring, and should have quite some time ago.

Harthan
12-17-2008, 04:17 PM
He would be incredible to have back for an apperance, but as far as wrestling? No way. The man should be retired from the ring, and should have quite some time ago.

Coming back for one match at WM regardless of opponent would still be well within his capability, and I'm sure he could make it a hell of a lot better than Flair vs HBK was.

OIL
12-17-2008, 04:25 PM
Coming back for one match at WM regardless of opponent would still be well within his capability, and I'm sure he could make it a hell of a lot better than Flair vs HBK was.

Flair vs HBK was good.

End of story.

Harthan
12-17-2008, 04:26 PM
Flair vs HBK was good.

End of story.

Lolz.

That's all that really needs to be said, isn't it?

OIL
12-17-2008, 04:28 PM
Lolz.

That's all that really needs to be said, isn't it?

It's the best that you can do, that's why.

Bless.

Harthan
12-17-2008, 04:32 PM
It's the best that you can do, that's why.

Bless.

There's probably a real thread where I could go on and actually get a post counted for it. Not gonna write an essay in the spam zone.

But in short, if you like: Flair vs HBK was potentially the worst match of the year, featuring one broken down old man and a slightly less broken down old man trying and failing to make Flair's last stand not suck. Unfortunately, Flair had absolutely nothing left and considering HBK lately needs someone decent to play off if he's going to do anything good, he just looked more horrible for it. So basically it was a sloppy botchfest with absolutely nothing redeeming about it, no, not even the emotion about Flair's retirement. Flair was already ten years out of his prime by WM 24

OIL
12-17-2008, 04:39 PM
There's probably a real thread where I could go on and actually get a post counted for it. Not gonna write an essay in the spam zone.

But in short, if you like: Flair vs HBK was potentially the worst match of the year, featuring one broken down old man and a slightly less broken down old man trying and failing to make Flair's last stand not suck. Unfortunately, Flair had absolutely nothing left and considering HBK lately needs someone decent to play off if he's going to do anything good, he just looked more horrible for it. So basically it was a sloppy botchfest with absolutely nothing redeeming about it, no, not even the emotion about Flair's retirement. Flair was already ten years out of his prime by WM 24

I'll admit Flair & Shawn are both broken men, but they still put on a very good match CONSIDERING Flair's state and the slump of Shawn Michaels. I'll get rep repped by Becca for that, bless her. The match was filled with emotion right from the start, and a botchfest? Blimey. You need to watch the match again. True, had some botches but considering Flair's state, and the nature of human error, I'll let them go. The in-ring psychology during the course of the match was fantastic, and something not many people pick up on. The ending was perfect, and you couldn't ask for more from them.

Harthan
12-17-2008, 04:45 PM
you couldn't ask for more from them.

Just because two people give it their best does not instantly make it good. In fact, it could still be horrible. That match was an embarrassment for everyone involved, and Ric Flair deserved better.

The point is even if it was the best match they could have put on, I shouldn't have been subjected to the match in the first place. Frankly, Flair could have retired without all the lose a match and you're fired angle. Instead of wasting PPV space with his crappy matches, and stealing away a WM spot that could have gone to a better match.

butsecks
12-18-2008, 04:55 PM
question: was Ric flair's last match really that bad? really atrocious? i mean i remember vividly ppl cheering how good it was after wrestlemania, now i see ppl on hear bash it. WAS IT REALLY THAT BAD?

OIL
12-18-2008, 05:00 PM
question: was Ric flair's last match really that bad? really atrocious? i mean i remember vividly ppl cheering how good it was after wrestlemania, now i see ppl on hear bash it. WAS IT REALLY THAT BAD?

You should have your own opinion. If you enjoyed it, then you'll like it. If you didn't, then you won't like it.

CENAtion
12-18-2008, 09:37 PM
I'll throw a few huge events out there that would mega draw at Wrestlemania:

In Order :

Lesnar vs Austin
Lesnar vs Cena
Lesnar vs Undertaker
Lesnar vs HHH

Harthan
12-18-2008, 09:38 PM
question: was Ric flair's last match really that bad? really atrocious? i mean i remember vividly ppl cheering how good it was after wrestlemania, now i see ppl on hear bash it. WAS IT REALLY THAT BAD?

Yes.

Mighty NorCal
12-18-2008, 09:40 PM
it was great for all the wrong reasons.

GREAT preformance from HBK. laborious match

Mighty NorCal
12-19-2008, 01:44 AM
and for the record, no he wouldnt. for all thats been said, he sorta hated every moment of being in the WWE

OIL
12-19-2008, 01:57 PM
it was great for all the wrong reasons.

GREAT preformance from HBK. laborious match

I enjoyed the match.

"The Living Legend" Johnny Gunnz
12-23-2008, 03:15 AM
The question isn't so much "Would he return?", more than "Would we fucking care?"

Alan Quartermaine
12-23-2008, 05:49 PM
Vince should jump on the chance too have Lesnar put someone over at Mania. I mean if I was Vince I would've resigned Brock after he failed to get into football and jobbed him out to just about every Main-Eventer on the roster. Even brought The Rock back for one night too beat Lesnar.

Sounds like good business too me.

mattitude2007
12-23-2008, 08:21 PM
The question isn't so much "Would he return?", more than "Would we fucking care?"

What a silly question, there is a reason this thread exists...it is due to that 'care' word.

He's the UFC heavyweight champion and a bigger PPV draw than anything or anyone not named Oscar De La Hoya.


I'd love to see him back for a one off Wrestlemania appearance, but as it stands if the UFC is willing, they of course will not be agreeing to a situation that makes them look foolish. I.E. Lesnar would NOT be jobbing, to anyone.