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Mighty NorCal
10-01-2008, 08:20 PM
I couldnt belive my eyes when He backed down from Triple H last friday. I literally said out loud "ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???"


I understand heel phsycology is for the heel to back down. But not Kozlov dammit. NOT Kozlov. What the shit are you thinking WWE?? The guy who isnt afraid of anyone/anything, and just wants a formiadble opponet FUCKING BACKS DOWN FROM PEOPLE???

That just pretty much undid all the building that has been done the last few months. I cant comprehend this for the life of me.

They should have him in the spot Big Show is in, hired gun for Vickie. Not being scared of Triple H. For fucks sake dammit.

mattitude2007
10-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Well he backed down because Jeff was in the ring too and the sledgehammer was just a few feet away from Trips' feet.

He didn't come off as cowardly to me at all. Nor did Jr and Tazz put it over as such, rather they made his decision seem logical, which it was.

Mighty NorCal
10-01-2008, 08:32 PM
That was the SECOND time he backed down. The first time, the hammer wasnt even in Trips hand. And why should it matter?? Fuck a sledge hammer!!! he is fucking damn Vladimir fucking Kozlov dammit!!!! If antyhing, he shouldve gotten in the ring and BROKE that fucking hammer LOL.

Fuck Jeff Hardy too. Hardy is a dope head, one of which Kozlov has kicked the shit out of before. The Kozlov character shouldnt give a shit about weapons, or being outnumbered. The first time he shows emotion, that emotion is FEAR?? Good god no. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Sadly it appears this is the road we are heading for. Its kind of impossible to undo what was done friday.

mattitude2007
10-01-2008, 08:41 PM
The first time...well yeah...but it was short so I more or less forgot about it.

I feel your pain though as I like Kozlov a lot too. I was hoping that he would go over Khali as violently as possible, but maybe they consider Kozlov's slightly less than gargantuan size to be a problem in making him an absolute monster. Which it shouldn't as they should play up Kozlov's background of martial arts, sambo etc. That would immediately negate the downer that he's only Snitsky's size.

FromTheSouth
10-01-2008, 08:59 PM
I kinda like that they made him seem smart. He was shaking his finger at pointing at the sledge. They built up his Sambo background to make him seem like a giant man with ability. He's supposed to be Bret Hart crossed with Hogan, a man if incomprehensible strength with unmatched technical ability. Now they showed him to be smart enough to know when it's not advantageous to fight.

I think they added an element of intelligence to him.

Although I do see what NorCal is saying, as there are two ways to take his actions.

Trance Metaphor
10-03-2008, 11:30 PM
Haha, at first, I really hated Vladimir Kozlov. He didn't seem all that great since all he ever faced were jobbers and wrestlers not worth watching. But, I know it was all part of his build-up. Still, I couldn't take him seriously. And then, he's elevated. Now he's making both Jeff Hardy and Triple H look like toys. It's awesome. The guy looks like a serious threat and it's working. WWE better not screw this chance up like they did with Umaga. Vladimir better not turn into a joke by becoming a victim to Triple H's damn sledgehammer. Come on, there's got to be someone that can overpower Triple H AND win the WWE title at that. Just maybe Vladimir will be the one to do it eventually.

DetectiveZelix
10-04-2008, 02:45 AM
I agree with all of you about Kozlov, he has come to be taken seriously afterwhile and as of last night he made an even bigger impact and I can respect him now as long as WWE keeps him dominating because he is a great fighter

Kris
10-04-2008, 02:50 PM
To me at least this just made Kozlov seem like a smart fighter, rather than some aimless monster like the Great Khali. It didn't harm Kozlov in my eyes at all, and he didn't look like he was afraid really, more that he isn't a damned idiot. I do agree that he could work well in Show's position, but him doing something with 'Taker would be appalling.

Pippen
10-05-2008, 02:39 AM
i don't think wwe are wasting him but i believe they are doing something totally wrong with him. i bet ya he gets one title match and he is the next umaga. umaga turned out alright because he eventually got the wins he needed. but kozlov will be the next kane for sure

Dead Kennedy
10-06-2008, 05:54 PM
Kozlov has got intensity, a pretty good moveset and a believable mean streak about him, and is quickly becoming one of the best big men in WWE. However, I think it's a good idea that they're slowing his push down.

He's not that over as a heel yet, and needs to work with more credible opponents before climbing his way up the card. And that goddamn finisher...yeah, even I get tired of saying it, but it sucks. I like his work, but he needs to impress everyone a bit more before he can get the go-ahead in my book.

Canadian Knight
10-07-2008, 06:54 AM
Kozlov going to waste? Of course! Do you remember the reign of HHH, where I think the same time Evolution came into being? Every wrestler that went at him seemed not to last long, such as Goldberg and Scott Steiner.

Kozlov should "hurt" HHH temporary sakes, for a couple of weeks. Then he comes back and we have a fight. Maybe Kozlov could win it and then face HHH for the belt. As long as they keep doing the same storys over and over again, Kozlov will not shine.

SuperSwanton
10-07-2008, 10:21 AM
Are you talking about when triple H came down the ramp slow as a sloth? Then Kozlov left the ring? if you are then I don't know if I agree. Cause Khali was right there in the ring and he was smart enough to leave. If anything they did a great job there. They separated him from the rest of the dumb giants. All the others are so dumb that they would run into the ring and get destroyed. Now they made him seem smart AND they managed to generate more heat at the same time!

Thats pretty good right there, All he has to do now if keep getting in the way of Jeff and Triple H and we may have Kovlov as one of the choices for HHH for Cyber Sunday. Eight that or it could lead to a triple threat at Survivor Series. I dont think they undid anything. if they make kozlov look too strong and Triple H beats him imagine the complaints. I can hear it now...

"HHog"

BC
10-11-2008, 02:36 PM
Kozlov isn't getting wasted and your points are extremely invalid. He is getting pushed heavily, and is being built strong for the future. He gets good heel heat and is being utilized correctly. WWE is building him strong for future use, and in doing so, using him to full potential, like any other monster heel. Just like Umaga.

xChainGangx 810
10-12-2008, 02:12 PM
wwe shouldnt be going crazy that kozlov is undefeated and shit bcuz he faced a bunch of crappy guys for like 4 months. i have nothing against him and i think he is a very good wrestler bcuz he knows sambo, but wwe would make a really good match if he faced someone like umaga.

Sticky
10-12-2008, 03:56 PM
I like the push that WWE are handing Kozlov and it doesn't matter if he backs down from HHH, he's alreadly beaten down on him and his onto the main-event picture for Cyber-Sunday. What's more to like?

ThrilledHer
10-12-2008, 04:39 PM
i think the push he is getting is going well. if there is anything to complain about that makes him look bad, it is not him backing down from a 2 on 1 showdown, but its that fucking headbutt. he is clearly pushing them away with his arms, not his head, and it is completely unbelievable. he should go back to that reverse ddt type move he used in matches

DeadmanFan
10-12-2008, 04:41 PM
It's good to see Kozlov come up a bit. I like him for the main event, and I'm happy he's gone away from having the same match against the same set of jobbers every week. I think he should get the title shot, and I hope he wins, even though it ain't gonna happen. Seriously, Triple H's reign is getting as stale as Cena's was last year. I want someone to take the belt off him already.

I'm also gonna agree with LegendThriller, Kozlov needs to get a REAL finisher, and fast.

The Ronination
10-13-2008, 12:03 AM
I am enjoying Koslov's push, and do agree that he needs to find a new finisher. A decent German Suplex would be awesome. Or his Reverse DDT.

I hope WWE doesn't fuck up Koslov, I'd enjoy a Koslov title reign, which would be able to free up Triple H for some OTHER fued, maybe with Taker. Keeping him away form the title would be cool, while having some of the lesser guys chase the title.

LMaruko
10-16-2008, 01:10 AM
I agree with the fact that Koslov needs a KILLER finisher; one like Brock Lesnar had--something quick, decimating, and looks painful.

Also, I also think that Koslov needs a mouthpiece as a WWE Champion; maybe put Kenny Dykstra to good use using a storyline that he learned Russian somewhere. It would give Jeff Hardy another feud, possibly with Dykstra, and having Koslov destroy Hardy every week.

Suneeboy
10-16-2008, 08:35 AM
I'm going to go with everyone else here. Kozlov needs a new finisher and he needs one now. That headbutt is so lame. He should at least run to the ropes or something and call it the Headbutt from Hell or do a flying headbutt. Thank God HHH and Hardy can sell that shit well enough to make it passable all this time. The Reverse DDT is cool because he does it with a lot of force...but he needs something like the F5

Derf
10-16-2008, 08:59 AM
I agree with alot of this. A Headbutt could potentially be a good finisher, but not the way he does it. He just uses his arms to push them away, thats not that bad. He should run at them like a fucking ram or somthing.

Also, the one thing Kozlov does NOT need is a mouthpeice. Altough it might not be great english he can speak. Ad I find that as soon as you add a mouthpeice to a wrestler, it waters him down and makes him look weaker. Find one guy that benifited from a Mouthpeice in the last 3 years. There are some, but very few.

And lastly, having Kozlov facing Triple H already is a bad sign. Yeah, it shows he's getting over as a hea, but it also points to him being burried that much sooner. Just like Khali, Umaga, and all those other Monster heals that looked unbeatable, they will get beaten by the few guys that don't need the push anymore, and then randomly job themselves out. I mean, what has Khali done lately? What about Umaga, pre injury? They rose up to fast, got demolished, and fell. And now they lose every match with a potentially more popular guy.

Showtime 24/7
10-16-2008, 11:25 AM
And lastly, having Kozlov facing Triple H already is a bad sign.

Agreed, but that's the way WWE has been handling their heel situations thus far, and that is why that there were such a small amount of quality heels at the beginning of the year, so few that they've pushed/brought up about a half dozen people to become heels now Jericho/Kane/JBL/Kendrick. Vince seems obsessed with pushing big monster heels, Umaga and Kahli as you pointed out, blow them past all the middle card talent so they can job to the top faces, Cena, HHH, and Batista, and then fall back into a middle/upper card level, like Kahli and Henry are at. Look at the heels Vince has used in the last few years that he gave pushes to, or tried to, Umaga and Kahli already have been mentioned, but then there's Henry, Big Daddy V, Snitsky, all monster heels that Vince tried to put over and fight the big faces like Cena, HHH, and Undertaker and those three, especially the last two failed. The only heels Vince wants to stay at the top are the ones with the good mic skills and normal builds, Edge, Orton, Jericho, MVP. Fortunatly for Kozlov, I believe he'll fall in the Umaga and Kahli categories where he'll have some success and should remain prominantly in the middle/upper card section, but with his quick feud he's being pushed into with HHH, without him really beating anyone worthwhile to deserve it (Umaga at least beat HHH, Micheals and Cena before getting a shot at the WWE title) Koslov will be buried after his feud with HHH, where hopefully he will return, dominate the middle card scene like Umaga did and within time, become a regular player in the mainevent scene.

People worry about Kozlov being done and buried already. The man hasn't been around for a year and he's already one of the top heels on SD. He doesn't need to speak to draw heat and for the moment that is an impressive thing, to not need a whiny manager to talk to get you heat. Kozlov will have a future in the WWE, just get off his and Vince's back, keep booing him and let him develop on his own and he'll be world champion within 2 years, mark it down on on your calenders and quit saying he's being wasted, give it time. he'll get his turn.

JackAttack
10-17-2008, 01:52 PM
If they want to build Kozlov up as a monster, they need to have him win more matches first. I too like the push he is getting, but I think they pushed him a little too soon.

Before facing off against guys like Triple H and Hardy, they should've had him go over more mid-card guys like Kennedy, MVP, and Kendrick. That way he would have more credibility going into a match with Triple H, and wouldn't risk getting buried. Unlike Cougar, I don't think he has earned his push yet, and needed to go over more people.

If he does lose to Hardy and Triple H at this point of his career, it will make him look pathetic because he has little momentum right now, mainly because he has only defeated jobbers.

If he ends up going back down to the mid-card scene after this feud, it wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. But he would need to play a prominent role there, and not just job out like Khali and Umaga did.

mvk112
10-29-2008, 10:39 AM
I agree he needs to be built up... the main problem with the brand split is that they need stars to headline both brands, so the midcard is weakened and anybody with a decent gimmick or ability gets pushed straight to the main event level. Guys like Kozlov and CM Punk need to spend a year at the midcard level, in my mind... look at how guys like The Rock, Triple H, and Austin were built... they established themselves and their characters in the midcard level until there was almost no choice but to put them at the top.

Kozlov should be terrorizing guys like Kenny Dykstra, Brian Kendrick, Jimmy Wang Yang, Ezekial Jackson, and having success against Shelton Benjamin, R-Truth, and MVP. Then he can move onto Jeff Hardy, then the Triple H's and Undertakers and Big Show's of the world.

Marquis
10-29-2008, 10:49 AM
I agree with almost everything that has been said here but the thing i agree the most is the fact that they threw him to main event level to fast. They basically gave him a sink or swim option. So far so good but as norcal posted in his first post that fact that hes backing down to triple h does not make things look good for his future. I understand the WWE is low on talent in certain areas across all 3 brands for example Smackdowns main event scene. But if Kozlov was built slow and right im positive he could have become a big player in the WWE. Sadly i don't see this happening now but who knows maybe he rides this fast push threw and comes out on top.

Fizzy
11-02-2008, 02:31 PM
LOL at Norcals posts. Anyway I do agree that Kozlov should have at least fought. This makes him look like a complete pussy. He could have fought both of them, and lost, but nooo they had him pussy out. That does nothing for the gimmick they gave him. He's supposed to be a fucking monster who destroys anyone in his way. How are you going to build that gimmick by having him pussy out of a fight? It's bullshit and if it happens again you can basically consider Kozlovs gimmick dead.

Tiger Wood's Harem
11-11-2008, 03:45 AM
I'm rather glad he "backed down". He's not an Umaga or Khali. He's intelligent. Which is a good thing. I think it would have just turned him into a brainless "monster" if he had not left the ring. He was outnumbered and against a sledge, after all. That would not have ended well. I'd prefer him leaving than him being beat up, ha.