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chapmolly
07-26-2008, 12:04 PM
After seeing his promo video, it's safe to say that I am very excited about this move. I believe Truth will be a solid addition to the Smackdown roster. Imagine feuds between him and Shelton Benjamin, MVP or even Jeff Hardy. Friday Nights just got way more athletic and charisma is about to get a shot in the arm. Truth is going to prove to TNA's disgruntled stars that the WWE will give them a shot and not look at them like lesser athletes.

GW Emperor
07-26-2008, 01:13 PM
I too am excited that Ron Killings (R-Truth) is heading to Smackdown.
Apparently WWE are going to quickly push the guy into the main event scene which is a very good decision as he is probably the best wrestler on that brand and the main event spot's in WWE are crying out for fresher talent as I, like many, are fed up of seeing the usual faces, in particular Triple H, hogging the top spots.
R-Truth has also came from TNA, where by far the best wrestlers in America are based, so he is sure to teach those current WWE superstars a thing or two about how wrestling should be done.
Hopefully R-Truth will be World Champion within a year and he is certain to be a massive hit with fans.

Y 2 Jake
07-26-2008, 01:17 PM
R-Truth has also came from TNA, where by far the best wrestlers in America are based, so he is sure to teach those current WWE superstars a thing or two about how wrestling should be done.


That's funny. TNA isn't the base for most of the great American wrestlers. But even if it was that statement is laughable. Killings is now in WWE. Which now means he's got to wrestle the WWE style. That means he'll be doing considerably less than he did in TNA and there will now be hardly any high spots off him. Which is a real problem when the only thing Killings is capable of is high spots.

TheOneBigWill
07-26-2008, 02:22 PM
I too am excited that Ron Killings (R-Truth) is heading to Smackdown.

I'm a bit hyped as well, but I doubt he'll be anything more than the next United States Champion. His gimmick reminds me too much of Rikishi Fatu's old gimmick from 1995-1996 in which he relived his mistakes, getting shot, paying his dues for his crimes, etc, etc.

Killings is apparently going to be the Smackdown version of C.M. Punk, except he'll have lived through the experiences of those "mistakes" so he'll be better.

Apparently WWE are going to quickly push the guy into the main event scene which is a very good decision as he is probably the best wrestler on that brand and the main event spot's in WWE are crying out for fresher talent as I, like many, are fed up of seeing the usual faces, in particular Triple H, hogging the top spots.

You have straight up lost your fricken mind if you believe the former K-Kwik is better than Triple H., Edge, Jeff Hardy, Big Show, Umaga, M.V.P., Mr. Kennedy.. shit, you know what.. Ron Killings is topping the list of being right about Jimmy Wang Yang at this point.

K-fricken-Kwik.. okay, remember that. K-Kwik isn't, never was, and definately won't be a Main Eventer to go over the likes of Triple H. I don't care if he did change his name to "R-Truth". That makes it even worse, what the hell does "R-Truth" stand for? (Don't even say Ron)

R-Truth has also came from TNA, where by far the best wrestlers in America are based, so he is sure to teach those current WWE superstars a thing or two about how wrestling should be done.

Even if that was the case, you do realize 90% of T.N.A.'s Roster are former W.W.F./E. guys, right? So technically, the W.W.E. is where "by far the best wrestlers in America are based". And T.N.A. just picks the scraps of what the W.W.E. no longer feels they need.

Hopefully R-Truth will be World Champion within a year and he is certain to be a massive hit with fans.

I can see now why you believe T.N.A. is so great. Killings is going back to performing in front of a crowd larger than triple digits. He'll get a mixed reaction, if any reaction at all.

He'll get a moderate push against Shelton Benjamin, because that seems to be the thing they're doing right now. Benjamin's recent title reign has no purpose. Killings redebut will show him likely winning the title and doing nothign with it, until someone else comes along.

In a year's time.. Killings will be switched to E.C.W., and likely jobbing to Colin Delaney. I hope not, I really do. I want to see Killings do something.. but he's a Tag Team specialist, and a midcard level guy in the world of the W.W.E., at best. No where near Main Event level. Especially not against guys like Edge, Triple H. and the Undertaker.

GW Emperor
07-26-2008, 03:51 PM
The One Big Will - If Ron Killings took on Triple H in a one on one real wrestling match are you honestly telling me that Triple H would win? If you are then you clearly have problems.
Triple H is a slow, boring, predictable wrestler who at best is average in his ring ability, and has only had a handful of good matches in his lifetime. The majority of which just happened to be some sort of gimmick match, such as a hell in a cell. Ron The Truth Killings however is a fast, exciting wrestler who's wrestling ability is good, and about 90% of his matches have been entertaining.
Not only is Ron better at wrestling than Trip but he would also kick Trip's ass in a real one on fight, this since Trip is nothing more than a long haired wussy. Kurt Angle and Goldberg have both exposed this statement.
Overall Ron Killings is a better wrestler than Triple H by far.

You also say TNA is worse than WWE when it comes to wrestling, which to me suggests that you have either never watched TNA or you are insane.
It's absolutely impossible to not see the big difference between the two companies when it comes to proper wrestling. In TNA around 90% of matches are excellent, whereas in WWE around 90% of matches are pure crap. TNA makes WWE alot of the times look like the fakest thing on planet earth. And so what if TNA has wrestlers who once worked for WWE. So long as they can wrestle and wrestle well who gives a shit where they once worked?

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h172/Crychon/TNA/RonKillings3.jpg

MisterRob
07-26-2008, 04:13 PM
The One Big Will - If Ron Killings took on Triple H in a one on one real wrestling match are you honestly telling me that Triple H would win? If you are then you clearly have problems.
Triple H is a slow, boring, predictable wrestler who at best is average in his ring ability, and has only had a handful of good matches in his lifetime. The majority of which just happened to be some sort of gimmick match, such as a hell in a cell. Ron The Truth Killings however is a fast, exciting wrestler who's wrestling ability is good, and about 90% of his matches have been entertaining.

One: You devalue Triple H and his career of matches so extremely its stupid. Triple H has had countless great matches throughout his career, so saying he's only had a handful is just being unrealistic and biased. It's silly. Two: saying Ron Killings has had 90% entertaining matches is overstating and giving too much credit to Killings. He started in the WWE and his matches were forgettable, and he certainly didn't have 90% entertaining matches in TNA. Stop being so biased. You can be a fan of Killings and still be reasonable.



Not only is Ron better at wrestling than Trip but he would also kick Trip's ass in a real one on fight, this since Trip is nothing more than a long haired wussy. Kurt Angle and Goldberg have both exposed this statement.
Overall Ron Killings is a better wrestler than Triple H by far.

This is a silly statement to. You know neither wrestlers, you know neither of their actual ability in a real fight, so your claim that Ron can kick Triple H's ass is dumb. Any statement Kurt Angle says has to be questioned and compared with true concrete evidence, in my mind.. and Goldberg got his ass handed to him by Chris Jericho so I don't think he should be saying anything about Triple H. (lol) You think Killings is a better wrestler, you're entitled to that opinion, I entirely disagree though.



It's absolutely impossible to not see the big difference between the two companies when it comes to proper wrestling. In TNA around 90% of matches are excellent, whereas in WWE around 90% of matches are pure crap. TNA makes WWE alot of the times look like the fakest thing on planet earth. And so what if TNA has wrestlers who once worked for WWE. So long as they can wrestle and wrestle well who gives a shit where they once worked?

How in the world can you compare the WWE and TNA's style which has a lot of X division style wrestlers whose matches are so evidently choreographed (as opposed to being able to at least hide the fact slightly) and are endless spotfests and claim the WWE looks fake compared to TNA? That's the silliest claim I've heard in a long time.

MisterRob
07-26-2008, 04:16 PM
R-Truth has also came from TNA, where by far the best wrestlers in America are based, so he is sure to teach those current WWE superstars a thing or two about how wrestling should be done. Hopefully R-Truth will be World Champion within a year and he is certain to be a massive hit with fans.

Do your homework. Ron Killings started in the WWE, long before he was ever in TNA. I don't think he'll be teaching the WWE superstars anything. I'm also holding my breath on whether he'll be World Champion within a year, since the first time he was in WWE he went nowhere. Was he even over in the WWE? He did the same moves, had the same gimmick he did in TNA... hmm.

I do hope he gets the chance to shine, and we'll see where his potential goes.

Big Sexy
07-26-2008, 04:42 PM
Ron Killings is the man and he should have the wwe title within a year. When he was first in wwe he was a very talented but also very raw and while he was in tna he really polished his skills. I believe the character hes going to have along with his great in ring skills and experience will make him the wwe champion

AnthonyMango/NoFate007
07-26-2008, 07:16 PM
I wholeheartedly see Killings fitting into the midcard as a face, since Smackdown's midcard is severely, severely lacking in faces right now. They only have Jimmy Wang Yang and Shannon Moore, who are dominated by everyone nowadays.

For heels, Killings could have feuds with Shelton, Carlito, Kendrick, Kozlov, Ezekiel (once he starts wrestling, if he's any good at it), Dysktra (when he returns), etc.

I can't see Killings going into the main event while they already have HHH, Undertaker, Hardy, Kennedy, and the Big Show.

As far as talent goes...I have no clue if I should be excited about this guy or what. I've never seen any of his matches.

MisterRob
07-26-2008, 08:48 PM
As far as talent goes...I have no clue if I should be excited about this guy or what. I've never seen any of his matches.

Don't believe the huge hype. He is a talented performer though and definitely does have potential, it all just depends on how far the WWE allows him to go. I agree though, I don't see him moving past the mid-card.. especially not in a year like so many people on these boards are jumping to some unfounded conclusion of.

Rusty
07-28-2008, 06:49 AM
I personally can't wait for R-Truth to debut on Smackdown. I haven't seen him wrestle before as I didn't get TNA when Ron Killings was a member of the TNA roster. But I heard he's decent and I know he certainly has the look of a superstar. But is Smackdown the right place for him to debut? I think ECW suited him just fine. That brand is really lacking in star power and needs him more than what Smackdown does.

I can see the guy debuting as a face which is fine by me as he can wrestle mid-carders like: Brian Kendrick, Shelton Benjamin, M.V.P, Carlito and Kozlov. I can't say much else about the guy as I haven't seen him wrestle a single match but I am hoping he is a decent mid-carder that doesn't get squahed in the process. Smackdown is lacking in face's so I think he really needs to debut as a babyface. It better not be as bad as Chris Harris' debut a few weeks ago.

Mighty NorCal
07-28-2008, 03:20 PM
Im excited on the one hand, no so much on the other. Excited becuase I enjoyed his work during his first WWE stint, and excited becuase from what I hear, he is pretty entertaining in TNA. And I dig his look, character, and the promo vid.

On the other hand...he did NOTHING in his first WWE stint, and Monty Brown utterly flopped in his run in the WWE. And honestly, I think we are just seeing a heightened sense of urgency at getting black wrestlers pushed, becuase of the PR issues with Micheal Hayes, so I think this may play a role in it. Ya know, its not like Killings has been working dark matches for the last YEAR, and now all the sudden he is called up, with a cute promo video and everything. HHHmmmmm. Im not sure what will happen AFTER the wwe race scare dies down. He will just end up lost in the shuffle, were Shelton, Burke, Henry, and everyone not named Kofi Kingston was just a few months back.

Crimson Bonez
07-28-2008, 06:37 PM
yea i like killings and cant wait for him to debut, but people need to realize this is wwe, and i dont see killings or r-truth winning no word title no time soon, let alone a year. yes i know hes pose be getting a ME push, but that doesnt mean that hes goin to win any world titles. after this whole "ME push" is over hell be in the mid card fueding for the us title or quite possibly the tag titles, but no world titles. as for his name r-truth, not a big fan of that name, could get better the more i hear it but as of now no, r-truth killings maybe but just r-truth...no.

patdsez
07-28-2008, 06:48 PM
Big Killings fan, but I hate the name "R-Truth." It's a real mouthful and it won't be long until they're just calling him "The Truth." I think he can have a great impact (pun intended) Smackdown. I could see him playing the face in a feud with Edge very soon.

The Instant Classic91
07-28-2008, 06:54 PM
Is it just me thats noticed that quite a few ex TNA stars WWE names/monikers seem awfully similar to the ones they used in TNA.

Monty Brown/Marcus Cor Von
The Alpha Male/The Alpha Male

Wow bet it took creative to come up with that.

R-Truth.
Thats just too fucking easy.

Hell theyve even starting calling Jeff Hardy "The Charismatic Enigma!"
Hmmmmm now where had I heard that one before?
O ye TNA.

And TNA stars are just all WWE rejects are they?
Reused WWE gimmicks is it?

Perhaps.
But a case of the pot calling the kettle black I think, resident WWE sheep of the wrestlezone forum.

snookydowork69
07-28-2008, 07:31 PM
defintely excited for "R-Truth" to debut
im expecting a few weeks of just beating lower level guys then possible working his way into a fued with Shelton or maybe a little program with Brian Kendrick and Ezekial
but eventually he will move up on the card and fued with the likes of MVP, Umaga, and Edge

Smackdown is starting to be more and more exciting
except for Khali vs Triple H

mcflyboy
07-28-2008, 07:49 PM
I don't know much about this guy, but it seems like lately (like in the past few years), whenever anyone has a series of videos before their debut, they get a small push at first, then quickly settle into more or less obscurity around the mid card level. Kofi Kingston is the only exception I can think of in somewhat recent memory, who had videos hyping his debut and hasn't been more or less forgotten or ignored.

A-Train
07-29-2008, 12:55 AM
I'm excited for killings to come to friday nights but the only problem i have is he reminds of booker t or king booker wateva u want to call him. He even has the axe kick as his finisher so i hope they change that cos people familiar with booker will be kinda pissed. i also think he will get lost in the shuffle after about 6 months or so around the midcard like carlito and shelton, except shelton has a title wooooo.

wwe1581
07-29-2008, 01:16 AM
I saw him in a dark match before Raw a few months ago and he got a huge ovation and i was happy to see that promo i liked him when he was K-Kwik now he's R-Truth doesn't matter to me

good athlete and even sings his own entrance music
can't wait to see him debut

dragondragon
07-29-2008, 12:26 PM
R-Truth is not a catchy name at all,so he will just be "The Truth" to me from now on.Anyway I am excited because I think hes not a half bad wrestler from what I saw of him in TNA.I remember him in WWF but I cant remember any of his in ring work.Yes he is kinda spotty but I honestly cant see his moveset changing dramatically in the WWE.He did all the flashy leg lariats and spinning elbow smashes and stuff,and theyre not exactly too dangerous for WWE.I can see him doing those moves along with the usual punch/kick and whatever couple of other moves he wants to use and he will be fine I say.

ecw4life
07-30-2008, 06:21 PM
Ron better not be wasted like many other superstars here today. Ron deserves to be a main event wrestler and he even has the talent to be a main event attraction. He better win a championship on smackdown within 2008 or before WM 25. Or wat the heck how about this Idea with the "Truth" Should he win the Money in the Bank at WM25? HE will become the first african american to win it and vince is lookin for someone to take bobby lashleys spot?

Trance Metaphor
08-01-2008, 02:25 PM
I'm not excited about this at all, because it reminds me of the days when Ron Killings was jobbing on a constant basis as K-Kwik. What did he get for his time spent in WWE? A measly Hardcore Championship which he held for a very brief time. He has awesome moves and the sit-out vertical front suplex was my favourite, but will we be able to see that in the WWE? When he was in TNA, he was a two-time NWA World Heavyweight Champion and defeating guys left and right. That was great. But, here in WWE? He'll just wander around the mid-card level like Shelton Benjamin and Mr. Kennedy. My jaw would drop if they let him win against someone like Edge. I don't know. Ron Killings should've went over to AAA instead.

Dark Blaze
08-01-2008, 03:00 PM
I've only seen a bit of "R-Truth" from his TNA days, and from what I saw, I was hugely impressed...however, he's going to WWE now, where his moveset will be limited severely, he won't be able to do half of what he used to do in TNA. But I still see him fitting into the midcard solidly, probably winning the US title, could make for some interesting matches.

I'll be holding out hope though, that WWE could give him a chance to show that he can perform his moves perfectly ( like they did Evan Bourne) and allow him to use his moveset.

The very idea though, is laughable.

Shaft
08-01-2008, 07:13 PM
SO basically..you're saying because a guy came over from TNA who was big over there should be immediately big over in the WWE?

i Disagree...

many of you complain about how Shelton or Kennedy or Hardy and MANYY others are misused and their talents are wasted..

While this is true and i agree...why bring in someone else to put above those guys? Its like using R-Truth as a red herring..a distraction from the guys who are already thrown aside. Ron Killings, or K-Kwick or R-Truth should be pushed..yes..but along with a few others..it cant just be a solo push, it needs to be a whole movement.

And with Shelton as US Champ..and MVP seemingly being moved to a higher status and Hardy fighting for the ECW Championship...hopefully this is a sign of good things to come

Beeyond_Good_and_Evil
08-05-2008, 04:51 PM
While I agree that R-Truth is a very talented individual indeed too many people on this thread are saying that he's the future of SD and he's way better than Triple H and so on. First off Killings will start off against Carlito or Shelton to get his feet wet. Maybe win the US title. After that he'll struggle to float against MVP,Kennedy,Jeff Hardy and there is no way he's beating Edge,Triple H, or Undertaker. I'd be stunned to see that. TNA has exciting tag matches, and women's matches. But their main events lack drama. Killings will quickly learn the WWE way of things or he will fall to the wayside. Marcus Cor Von style.

Milenko
08-06-2008, 12:17 AM
I like Killings so I have high hopes for him during his second run in the WWE. He knows the WWE style because he's been there before. He will be pushed to a US title victory and if he is good enough he will go into the Main Event. I think this move is a great thing for his career as TNA had nothing for him. I just hope the don't screw thisa up like the did with Monty Brown and they are doing with Chris Harris.

klunderbunker
08-06-2008, 12:20 AM
I ahve never seen the appeal of Killings in any company. He's a good sized guy that can move, but he's jsut been a midcarder to me his entire career. How did this guy become a two time TNA champion? He's ok in the ring but he just doesn't do it for me. He could be good in WWE but I can't picture him going beyond the midcard. His name is just ok, I'm not wild about R-Truth which I'm assuming is WWE's attempt to have everyone's name under their control. Overall, not that excited about him but he coudl suprise me as he's not bad, just not good either.

My$terio_Fan
08-06-2008, 05:15 PM
I'm excited about Killings coming to the WWE. I thought he was good in TNA and can ben used to build up the mid card division even more. He is a solid wrestler(although he relys on spots alot) and is a decent talker. Also it looks like WWE is ready for Killings to become a star since he is getting alot of promos on smackdown before he debuts whereas Chris Harris got nothin. In all Killings can help add to the mid card division and may become a main eventer is pushed properly.

Soul Reaper
08-12-2008, 08:48 AM
First off R-Truth is a retarded name in my opinion.

Ron Killings is a good performer. I wouldn't say he is great. I don't see him going past Mid Card. He seems like the new Booker T to me and if that is true he won't be getting a World Title anytime soon. But I read that he is supposed to be getting a Main Event level push. So this either going to fail or going to make it. Hopefully it makes it because SD needs more Main Eventers. They really only have 3 Undertaker, Edge, and Triple H. I don't see the WWE letting R-Truth bet Triple H or Undertaker. Maybe Edge though. Hopefully if he wins the World Title it'll be sometime like Judgment Day 09. I hope R-Truth makes it.

Tim Tam
08-12-2008, 08:54 AM
Killings is a good wrestler. He's not that great; He's just a midcarder. Knowing the WWE, this R-Truth gimmick will be really stuffed up in some way and it will get him nowhere. Best I and most other people can see him doing is staying at the midcard level, maybe getting a run at the US title. He doesn't excite me much; For me it'll just be another guy in the WWE roster who won't last that long.

Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger
08-12-2008, 09:29 AM
in all honesty, will anyone care outside of the IWC? I think not. He's not "known" outside of the people that watch both E and TNA. Unless you remember him as K-Kwik? I think that was him.
His gimmick seems like a semi rip off of Kofi Kingston or even a rip off of Rikishi. Truth spent years locked up or w/e and now he wants to make an impact. No one will care and he will be nothing more than a Mid Carder who might get an IC or US Title.

Who knows though, he might have a good run in the WWE. He is a solid worker, and he can talk so that is always a plus but i still think nothing will come from this because Vince "usually" doesnt push guys who come from other wrestling promotions.

KillBill
08-12-2008, 11:53 PM
For everyone saying Killings wont last, your wrong. WWE would not waste there time with all these vids of him if they weren't expecting a lot of him. Hes not really changing his name, and as far as Vince not doing much with guys from other promotions, Killings was in WWE first. He will last because hes the got the athletics and personality, he can get over with the crowd, especially if he uses the Whats Up song from TNA. (Its his song, so he can use it.) And he is old for wrestling standards, 36, so he will get the push right away so they can get the best of him. Someone mentioned MVP. Do you not know he jobbed in TNA? Maybe for only one squash match, but that still proves that anyone can make it if they really want to. I think he will make a big impact on smackdown, it will be fun!

Mighty NorCal
08-17-2008, 04:12 AM
Something I thought of in my own brain just now.


HOOOWWWW...will MVP and R Truth interact?? Hence both of them having simular backgrounds, what with the prison time and all?? I can see us having at least a VIP lounge between the two. What with R Truth having gone the one way, and cleaining himsellf up and being all good and stuff, and MVP being the way he is, selfish and bitch ass, they could use a pretty dynamic clashing of characters with these two. I think with the simularities in the backgrounds of both guys, its almost inevitable.

Dead Kennedy
08-18-2008, 08:04 PM
R-Truth + MVP = Tag Team Gold. Hell, MVP by himself would be a better tag team champion than Zac Efron and Curt Ryder. I think Killings need to start out with singles competition though, but don't have him squashing jobbers, please. Have him in long, competitive matches with the midcarders.

He's already proven that he's good and although his K-Kwik gimmick sucked, he's really become a better performer since he was last in WWE. He's received great build-up with the imaginative vignettes, so I hope WWE are gonna utilize Ron Killings to his full potential. And that's the truth.

(Jeez, that was cheesy, wasn't it.)

Starchild
08-19-2008, 08:47 PM
I hope to God he doesn't just come in and dominate jobbers for 2 months. He is infinitesimally better than he was as K-Kwik in is first WWE run and should be thrown into midcard right away. I could see him working very well with MVP, Shelton, Hardy, Kennedy..and after some time there and maybe even a U.S. title run, I'd think a Truth/MVP team would be awesome. They have similar backgrounds and I'd think together they could really propel each other into upper midcard status to stay.
WWE has the vignettes going for him and that normally is a good sign for guys cuz they end up being stars. Can't wait to see him back in action

GW Emperor
08-20-2008, 06:18 AM
WWE are apparently going to push R-Truth into the main event scene fairly quickly once he begins to wrestle on SmackDown. This in my opinion would be the right thing for WWE to do as SmackDown is in need of some fresher talent in the main event scene, as opposed to just seeing the same boring faces such as Triple H, Undertaker, Edge etc. R-Truth is also a better wrestler than 99% of the SmackDown roster, he will the majority of time pull of exciting matches due to his wrestling style and speed, and he will very likely be a huge hit with the crowd. I strongly expect R-Truth to be a World Champion in WWE.

klunderbunker
08-20-2008, 06:27 AM
I'm really getting tired of waiting on this guy. Based on what I've seen of him before, I'm not that impressed or anxious about his debut. He was ok in TNA, but he was never really that great. These vignettes have been going on almost a month now and I'm tired of seeing them every week. He needs to get out there sometime this month. If WWE is going to push him into the main event, he needs to get out there soon. He's just not that impressive that I'm willing to wait this long seeing promo after promo about him. Hurry up WWE.

Suneeboy
08-20-2008, 08:51 AM
They are realing pushing this guy so they must have huge expectations for him. I don't think he'll come out and squash jobbers, he'll jump right into a feud when he comes in. Possibly MVP, Shelton Benjamin, Brian Kendrick (most likely IMO...they would put on GREAT matches and cut nice fresh promos), or maybe even Ezekiel.

Tryptic
08-23-2008, 09:00 PM
i got jus two words to say to this....GETTIN ROWDAY!!!!!! hell they shoulda payed for bg james to be roaddogg again they can do the tag team thing agaom and these edge clones (i choose not to remember their names) could lose the titles to a tagteam with some thing important i this buisness......no not long wavy blond hair, talent.

Mighty NorCal
08-29-2008, 07:40 PM
One word....

mehtastic.

Punch, stomp like a motherfucker, rest hold, then a bunch of spinny shit from R Truth. pin. ehh.

Fairly decent charisma and pretty good selling from Truth, but nothing at all to get inspired from here, the match was enormously cookie cutter. It was basically "Here is R Truth, here are his signature moves" and that was about it. Seems as if he can carry himself well though, the booking of this was more the issue I would think. Pretty much impossible to evaluate after his first showing on SD!.

Danmen001
08-29-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't know why people feel the need to do rest holds so continuously on their debut. It won't impress anyone, I would rather a short fast paced match where the match actually seems decent. If it's short and fast paced it at least gives the impression that "Wrestler A" is pretty good in the ring.

That being said, I guess they just didn't want to totally squash Kenny. R-Truth didn't impress me other than the few flippy moves, but he won't get over by only doing them a couple of times and the rest of the match being rest holds. Now that's the truth.

He has charisma though, and I expect his push to continue for a while. I didn't really think his finisher was good either, it was like a scissors kick (which is a bad set-up IMO) with a flippy bit added on the end. Well if he makes his matches more than rest holds and a flip bit I will probably grow to like him.

ThrilledHer
08-29-2008, 08:32 PM
i thought it was a decent debut. he couldnt do too much, because like danmen said, i dont think they wanted to squash kenny. its pretty much impossible to show a guys entire arsenal in one match.

that said, i think the most impressive thing from that match was kenny's promo beforehand. it was a great promo and also helped reinforce r-truth's street/felon gimmick

i think he'll get more impressive the more we see him

D.Miller
08-29-2008, 08:42 PM
Yes, decent main television debut indeed. And Dykstra is going to get that push, I can see it. They really want him recognized and what a neat little promo he delivered for himself. His potential still shines even though R.Truth defeated him. It's just for Dykstra to make a shocking impact that will get him out there for sure. Back to R.Truth, nice to see him out there, looking forward to what he does next and how they use him.

TheOneBigWill
08-30-2008, 04:26 PM
So riddle me this. Ron "The Truth" Killings went for a name change to R-Truth, yet his entire gimmick is roughly one in the same that he had in T.N.A.. INCLUDING his theme music.

This is by far the first and likely only time we'll see a T.N.A. built (because K-Kwik doesn't count) Superstar, is being pushed as the same in W.W.E. I wonder if McMahon is so high up on his mountain, that he actually thinks Killings as K-Kwik was turned into R-Truth, and in actuality, it was them that built him.. not T.N.A. :lmao:

All in all, I'm happy to see this. Killings as the same type of gimmick can actually be a decent United States Champion, and depending on how well over he gets during that time, he could end up as a Jericho of sorts regarding the Heavyweight title picture. (in it from time to time, but rarely ever wins it)

Danmen001
08-31-2008, 12:38 AM
I watched it again on a reply. And ya know what, I think I've changed my mind about all this. Before I said he wouldn't get over doing his few flippy moves, but I think he just might.

I heard the crowd reaction again, and it was pretty good. He has charisma, and if he does end up working a bit better, he could really go well in the WWE. I doubt he will ever make it WWE Championship material, unless he gets really over. The WWE champion scene is too crowded.

He could be okay for the US title though, and as long as he gets over he won't get released.

chasingamy
08-31-2008, 03:31 AM
Apparently they edited the shit out of the actual 5-minute match to try and make Killings look good. So we got only 2 minutes and it’s hard to judge how far someone can or will go based on 2 minutes. Killings did a good job selling but didn’t get in much offense. His corkscrew flying elbow looks awkward and he needs a better finisher than the scissors kick (as Danmen said that’s a setup move). He’s in great shape, showed nice quickness and agility, and has solid mic skills as we’ve seen in the vignettes. I really think that dancing bit in his entrance needs to go though. All things considered, R-Truth’s debut was respectable but somewhat underwhelming.

Mighty NorCal
08-31-2008, 08:43 AM
True story from Amy on the dancing. Was I the only one who was expecting something a little more serious from a character stand point after the vingettes?? I expected a far more serious atmosphere from those things. Why do we get all this somber good guy stuff before, and then this wacky dancing sillyness?? He felt like someone that had a ton more character depth, and someone I could get behind with those vingettes, and now just seems like K-Kwik the deux. You mean to tell me after all these years and multiple title reighns later, this guys character has developed ZERO from the last time in the WWE??

He will most likely be moderately successfull with the new G rated stuff, lack of character depth, and his flippy moves. but IMO the somber, strong blue collar hero was better than break dancing and bug eyes.

Y 2 Jake
08-31-2008, 08:49 AM
It was very weird when he came out and started doing all of that dancing. I was hoping he's be a more serious character, which I guess he's supposed to be, but he isn't if he's dancing. It's part of the main reason why Rikishi didn't work as a main event heel. The dancing is good for a mid card interlude only.

I really can't believe he didn't make his debut the show after Unforgiven. Where is the MVP/Killings feud? One has rehabilitated from his time in prison, the other hasn't.

Y 2 Jake
09-06-2008, 05:49 AM
You know something is wrong when you've got J.R. insisting that the fans are on their feet. Truth comes through the crowd and nobody gives a shit, and he drops the dancing after only a week. The future isn't looking great for him.

So he's walking through a crowd of fans, and only a few get up. Usually when you go to an event and you sit towards the back, you see fans running to ringside just so they can touch wrestlers. Ron Killings nearly had to put dollar notes in his Team Pacman panties.

Manjmonkey
09-11-2008, 06:29 PM
I think killings is good hes pretty charismatic and enjoyable to watch. He got the crowd sorta going with him theme song on smackdown last time. He'll make a good US champion i think

Mattyboy
09-13-2008, 12:25 PM
First time id seen him yesterday, looks so much like K Kwik its scary! But he seems talented, hopefully he makes it. Was pissed at the end of the Chavo match though.

JasonSensation
09-15-2008, 01:25 PM
First time id seen him yesterday, looks so much like K Kwik its scary!

...that's because he IS K-Kwik, Mattyboy! During his first stint in WWE, I was a Killings fan, due to the fact that I love fresh talent with athletic ability and charismatic gimmicks. I dug his rapping on the way to the ring and his cartwheel kick. But I was also 15 years old. I didn't have as much of an understanding as I do now. While I believe he could make an impact if handled correctly, I don't expect it to happen. Right now there is no room for two MVPs on Smackdown.

Adel_hamra
09-18-2008, 07:46 AM
i don't see what's the big deal with killings...i'll give it to him for turning his life from crime to wrestling but other than that, not very impressive...specially with that pathetic dance routine of his

Y 2 Jake
09-23-2008, 09:51 AM
- The feeling within WWE is that Ron "R-Truth" Killings is pretty much protected right now because it is a big deal within the company to have a big African American star right now and it seems Killings is "the chosen one" as one source described it. WWE officials love the gimmick, especially the rapping that he is now doing and are pushing him to really interact with the crowd and get over as much as possible. The feeling is that they're not getting the minority viewers like they want to and are doing whatever it takes to change that.

If WWE want to push a black guy I can think of plenty of other wrestlers. Shelton is one, MVP, Kingston. All of which are better than Killings. But do minorities really watch more if somebody of the same race as them is getting a push? If so that's sad. It shouldn't matter.

Shelton Benjamin was thought of to be the top star at one point but they realized he wouldn't be the one and decided to run with Killings.

I'm not the biggest Shelton fan. But he's a lot better than killings. He was also over as a face. And he didn't do all of that shitty dancing. He'll never be taken seriously doing all that gibberish.

For those who have asked, there is no heat on Killings for leaving the company before and joining TNA and he is said to be getting along with everyone.

I hear he and Cena aren't friends.

Tim Tam
09-23-2008, 10:07 AM
So, Killings is "the chosen one"? Maybe that should be his gimmick.
Anyway, as Jake said there are many other people they could push to be the big star, but someone that hasn't even been on the main roster for a month is being touted as the chosen one already?
He's a pretty good wrestler with a different style of offense and he seems to be able to connect with the crowd a bit. But i'm wondering how long the gimmick can last. I think that he'll be given a new gimmick somewhere down the track which will increase his longevity as a superstar, but I think this guy can go all the way.

butsecks
09-23-2008, 06:49 PM
man i can't believe what some of you people write on here....saying other black wrestlers should be pushed instead of r-truth...i have to laugh at most of you....shelton benjamin 2008 is no different than shelton benjamin 2004....for reals...what makes him so good besides wrestling? and MVP isn't that great....killings is good in the ring...reasons why killings should make it...is because
A. his wrestling style is different
B.its the WWE! NEWSFLASH! it aint about the wrestling in the WWE to get over!
look at batista, john cena,etc. even HULK HOGAN... saying shelton benjamin should get over is too damn funny...hes boring

PDecicco
09-23-2008, 06:57 PM
Ron Killings is a helluva good athlete. But then so is Shelton, who might be the best pound for pound athlete on the WWE's entire active roster.

But he's a good dancer right? Look at him bust a move....Except he looks like a moron. And Rikishi would get my vote on dancing with the superstars before K-Krush does.

And the rapping to the ring is awesome. I'm gettin' rowdy! Wassup! At least Cena rapped at his opponents as promos...and even that was taxing.

But that axe kick, man that's some axe kick. It's almost as good as Booker T's.

And his ring name...R-Truth. What a name. It's catchy, I'll never forget it. But I won't forget the name Pogo the Clown either.

I'm excited Ron Killings made it back to the WWE, I really am. He's going to do well in the WWE, Michael Hayes is making sure of it.

Mighty NorCal
10-01-2008, 09:07 PM
Ok, so apparently WWE wants to make him look like a caveman who can only say the word "whats up"

That promo, interaction, whatever the fuck, was just absolutely god awful. What in the FUCK?? afterall of this seriousness in the promo's leading up to his debut, now they make him look like a fucking cartoon. He didnt even TALK!!! The matches have been getting better, and it seems like he is getting more over. But holy shit, they are going in SUCH a different direction than the original promos. ugh.

mcflyboy
10-04-2008, 04:24 PM
It seems to me that the storyline right now with "Truth" is recycled from what was done with Kofi Kingston. Kofi and truth have different gimmicks (obviously), but the overall story seems to be the same.

Both had promos for a few weeks, hyping their debuts. Both had impressive debuts and for a while, had wins over folks we knew they would defeat. And then they had a feud with Shelton Benjamin.

Now that's as far as we've gotten with Truth, but the rest of the story with kofi is a feud with benjamin that lasts in a few matchups with benjamin finally coming out on top. Kofi gets the intercontinental championship. Kofi loses the intercontinental championship, and while he's certainly not on his way out or anything, has definitely lost momentum and is not really in the spotlight anymore.

I wonder if Truth's story is going to go the same way...is he going to ride his momentum, get a title (in this case from Benjamin) too early, lose it, and then be kind of on the back burner? Or is his gimmick good enough to keep his push going?

Or do you think creative will go a different direction with him than they did with Kofi? I'm thinking they should, but like I said, this whole story seems very closely mirroring kofi's so far.

My$terio_Fan
10-17-2008, 12:24 AM
I actually really like Killings and his angle. He is something fresh on Smackdown and I look forward seeing him week after week. Yes, the rapping and "what's up" get's kinda annoying but he is more over with the fans then half of smackdown's roster anyways. Killing also has been pretty good in the ring and he always entertains me while he wrestles. I really hope everything works out for him, because I think he has the charisma to be a pretty decent star. And it doesn't hurt that he seems to get along with creative.

Dagger Dias
10-17-2008, 03:04 PM
R-Truth really impressed me with his videos to hype his debut. However I have mixed feelings towards whether I like his character or not right now.

It's cool that he is interacting with the fans (which is always a plus to me), but saying 'Whats up" over and over again is going to get old. He should keep rapping though. Maybe a heel turn but still keep the rapping thing?

Either way, I am going to keep watching and see whether he continues to impress or not. Let's give him a little while longer to see where he goes. Something cool might happen. Like him taking the US belt from Shelton, which I hope he (or anyone) does!

Miko
10-19-2008, 05:23 PM
I dont mind R-Truths rapping and dancing (although if you ask me Brian Kendricks dancing is way better) but the only time I can think of watching him wrestle it was horrible.

I am talking about his most recent match with MVP, he just seemed uncoordinated and didnt know what to do next, maybe they just had bad chemistry but I am glad that match was short as I couldnt bear it any longer. The crowd was pretty dead too.

I'll be fair though he is popular and that match may have been just a one off, so I'll watch him a bit more and see what happens.

"Cool Guy" Jensen
10-19-2008, 06:10 PM
R-Truth has been very entertaining during his time in WWE. I gotta admit that the ''What's Up'' rap song is a little annoying, but I don't mind it. I actually prefer his dancing than his rapping. The Shelton Benjamin/R-Truth feud is interesting, but I hope it drags for longer so that R-Truth could win the United States Championship early next year.

obsidiana
10-24-2008, 09:25 AM
He should have stayed in Mexico with La Legion as wrestling is getting far more interesting down there. All I can see for him in WWE is staying in at the mid-card level and thats it which is to bad because he is a very good wrestler oops I mean "entertainer" now I guess it would be since WWE doesn't want they're talent to be known as wrestlers or superstars lol.