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Y 2 Jake
06-23-2008, 10:23 PM
Batista absolutely out of it. Great zombie impression.

FOTH 3:16
06-23-2008, 11:17 PM
HHH to SD I couldn't believe it dude.

Papa Shango
06-23-2008, 11:42 PM
I think Batista may be hurt pretty bad. He looked fucked up. Either he learned how to be a really good seller all of a sudden, or he's got a concussion.

I really couldn't believe HHH went to SD! I was kind of pissed, because all the guys who couldn't get passed him had just ended up on SD! (Umaga, Jeff, Kennedy) and then less than an hour later their chances of getting ME pushes went POOF.

And I'm personally really interested in where this McMahon injury angle is going. People may be shitting all over ths already, but dammit, those are the same damn people that complain that WWE never does anything interesting!

FOTH 3:16
06-23-2008, 11:54 PM
The Vince angle is interesting but just a remake of Vince is Dead from last year it even happened on the draft show.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:00 AM
What's your point? I was interested in seeing where that angle was going to go as well. It may have been kind of stupid, but apparently, Mr. Kennedy would have gotten a huge push out of it. These high concept angles may not always be the greatest forms of entertainment in the eyes of the die hard "wrestling shows should be wrestling" fans, but they're the easiest way to push superstars, and personally, I enjoy not exactly knowing what's going to happen next. It gives me that motivation to tune in. Who knows? Maybe someone will get a push out of this angle. MAYBE it'll end up being quite entertaining. In other words, people need to just shut the fuck up and watch it before they actually decide if it's crap or not. Steve Austin was fucking hit by a car. Kinda dumb. But it's now an integral angle from the careers of Austin, HHH, The Rock, and pretty much the only angle where Rikishi looked liked he mattered.

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 12:02 AM
The best part is (for now), Trips going to SD so I don't have to watch his boring ass every week.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:11 AM
But I have to start watching SD! more often again. I mean, I was upset enough that I wasn't getting my Edge fill, but now KENNEDY too?! The question is, is it worth putting up with HHH in order to see Edge AND Kennedy? Well, I'll give it a try. At least JR will be stuck watching it with me.

FOTH 3:16
06-24-2008, 12:12 AM
I think it will be entertaining I am looking forward to see this gimmick but what I mean Shango is WWE has too many over-the-top gimmicks lately.

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 12:13 AM
With Kennedy and Trips over there, I think that would be a perfect excuse to not watch it. And to tell you the truth, I'm kind of glad that JR and King were split. I just wish King would go too.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:19 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot Sly wasn't a very big Kennedy fan. For some reason, he can't see the star potential in him, even though the crowd eats him up like candy.

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 12:21 AM
Oh yeah, I forgot Sly wasn't a very big Kennedy fan. For some reason, he can't see the star potential in him, even though the crowd eats him up like candy.
No, I see the star potential...I also see the incredible suckiness. His promos are boring, redundant and monotone. And his matches match his interviews look entertaining, that's how bad they are.


Did you know that Kennedy's support on the IWC started out as a joke by forum trolls? True story. After a while, so many trolls claimed to be Kennedy fans, there were people who actually started converting.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:29 AM
You just still blame him for Cena's injury. lol

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 12:31 AM
You just still blame him for Cena's injury. lol
He's a bastard for that. ;)

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
06-24-2008, 12:32 AM
HHH to SD I couldn't believe it dude.


It happened several years ago when Bischoff was GM. That's how Booker T and Rob Van Dam got on SD.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:32 AM
Personally, I think Cena and Kennedy could have paired well on RAW, either as friends OR rivals.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:33 AM
It happened several years ago when Bischoff was GM. That's how Booker T and Rob Van Dam got on SD.

ACTUALLY, Spawn, Rob Van Dam was picked up in the draft. Triple H was traded back to Raw in exchange for Booker T and The Dudley Boys.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
06-24-2008, 12:34 AM
But I have to start watching SD! more often again. I mean, I was upset enough that I wasn't getting my Edge fill, but now KENNEDY too?! The question is, is it worth putting up with HHH in order to see Edge AND Kennedy? Well, I'll give it a try. At least JR will be stuck watching it with me.

They need to let Kennedy hit the juice again. He's starting to look like a less defined version of Kurt Angle.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
06-24-2008, 12:35 AM
ACTUALLY, Spawn, Rob Van Dam was picked up in the draft. Triple H was traded back to Raw in exchange for Booker T and The Dudley Boys.

Oh yeah, that's right. lol


LIKE I GIVE A SHIT. It was still a piss poor angle to make it seem like Trips was going to the B show. They will find a way to get him back on RAW here soon. Watch.

Papa Shango
06-24-2008, 12:41 AM
Oh yeah, that's right. lol


LIKE I GIVE A SHIT. It was still a piss poor angle to make it seem like Trips was going to the B show. They will find a way to get him back on RAW here soon. Watch.

Well, in all fairness, I don't think Triple H had any idea he was being drafted this time around. Did you see the look on his face when he turned around and saw his name on the screen? Looked like pure legitmate shock to me. He did such a good job of convincing Vince that he was the biggest and best superstar in the WWE, that Vince went "Well, SD! needs big talent for it's move to MNTV, let's send our biggest star!" Vince did not screw HHH. HHH screwed HHH. Trips will have to be willing to come off as a complete cry baby in order to stay on RAW. Although, the Vince injury angle gives him a good out, should he decide to lobby for a mulligan on the trade.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
06-24-2008, 01:08 AM
If it were pure legitimate shock, he would not have played to Cena like that. I think they worked on their reactions backstage beforehand. I think that Batista's post Spear blading and Trips holding Vince's hand were more believable.

jmt225
06-24-2008, 01:28 AM
Man, I fucking fell asleep during the Battle Royal, and I’m just now seeing that Trips was drafted to Smackdown. I can’t fucking believe it. If he stays on Smackdown and jobs to Cena Sunday, he will very, very, very slowly start to earn a little of my respect as a person behind the scenes. I always gave the dude credit as a performer and as a person away from wrestling, but this will, like I said, VERY SLOWLY start to make HHH look good as someone behind the curtain and doing what’s right for business instead of himself.

But yeah, if none of these picks get traded or anything retarded like that, what a great fucking draft. With a draft like this, they don’t need another one for at least two more years. Hopefully, a CM Punk heel turn is one its way and we get feuds with him against Cena and Rey Mysteri.

HHH & Kennedy off Raw, CM Punk & Mysterio on Raw, and Cena winning his belt back on Sunday = Me watching Raw every single week from this point on.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
06-24-2008, 02:16 AM
I think that the biggest shock, and best sell of the night, was Good Ol Jr. going to Smackdown. I mean the look on his face, not that it changes, was pure evil hate. You would have thought that Jr. really didn't know that he was going to SD. I would have believed it to be random, but Cole played his hand too quickly when he gave up his seat to Jr. He was collecting his own things rather than just making room for Jr. All in all, it was an interesting move.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 07:53 AM
The highlight of the show was me falling asleep in the bean bag chair of doom. fucking Money Mania segments. I guess thats the plan. Get people to fall asleep during money mania, and once they are unconcious, they are unable to change the channel.

anglewillruletna
06-24-2008, 08:07 AM
with Trips and Edge both having the belts and on SD does this guarantee that Batista or Cena will win their title match at NOC?

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 08:13 AM
well. what do you think :lmao:

HBK-aholic
06-24-2008, 08:15 AM
The highlight of the show was me falling asleep in the bean bag chair of doom. fucking Money Mania segments. I guess thats the plan. Get people to fall asleep during money mania, and once they are unconcious, they are unable to change the channel.

I have a feeling they actually thought of this :lmao:.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 08:18 AM
Honestly. If I want a good night's sleep for a monday, I just lay in bed while watching RAW. works everytime. But last night I wanted to stay up, so I positioned myself in the bean bag chair of doom. To no avail. Money Mania got me again dammit.

HBK-aholic
06-24-2008, 08:19 AM
I still haven't watched Raw. Putting it off for some reason. Probably because I don't want to be asleep this early lol.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 08:23 AM
I wanna see what the fuck happened with Mcmahon. I was long asleep by that event LOL

Fell asleep during the Hardyz Vs MNM

HBK-aholic
06-24-2008, 08:24 AM
Lol, I have no idea what happened either. Seen all the draft picks from the Draft thread though.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 08:25 AM
See Bex. we need to start watching RAW together. we can slap each other to stay awake :lmao:

The Deejish Invasion
06-24-2008, 08:40 AM
My favorite part of the draft was Matt drafted to ECW and ill tell you why, the Us title has no way shape or form got a smackdown competitor in the match at night of champions so it looks like this belt is staying on ECW and will be the midcard title for the brand for the forseeable future which to me will be a damn good thing, the only negative i see from this is that ECW needs a world Champion and If show gets the belt the belt still goes to Smackdown, so there will be alot of negotiation or a post draft that they will be doing on wwe.com which will help get the belt back on the brand also Trips to smackdown but to me again i see this as a swerve i do not and I will not see trips going to the b show, He will find his way back on raw which IMO is truly sad, if he does that will prove how much trips puts trips first and the show second

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 08:48 AM
I think that the biggest shock, and best sell of the night, was Good Ol Jr. going to Smackdown. I mean the look on his face, not that it changes, was pure evil hate. You would have thought that Jr. really didn't know that he was going to SD. I would have believed it to be random, but Cole played his hand too quickly when he gave up his seat to Jr. He was collecting his own things rather than just making room for Jr. All in all, it was an interesting move.
I think once JR moved to Smackdown, and with there being two picks, Cole (and everyone else) knew it was obvious Cole was going to Raw. Otherwise, you would have incomplete commentary teams, and commentators without a show.

Honestly. If I want a good night's sleep for a monday, I just lay in bed while watching RAW. works everytime. But last night I wanted to stay up, so I positioned myself in the bean bag chair of doom. To no avail. Money Mania got me again dammit.
You sound like an old man, fighting a losing battle with the after lunch nap.
See Bex. we need to start watching RAW together. we can slap each other to stay awake :lmao:
Did you really just call her "Bex"?

*sigh*

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 08:50 AM
I pretty much am. Fighting the post 5am wake up, workout, and protein shake coma.

And I been callin her that. Cant jus be like everyone else LOL

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 08:52 AM
I was actually legitimately angry when I woke up at almost midnight. I really wanted to watch the show last night. Fucking money mania. When the hardys came out to Matt's theme for no reason, I got disgusted and rolled over. bad idea.

Princekong2
06-24-2008, 08:59 AM
Hold on i dont get the thing with the World Titles So theres this

ECW Tittle match: Kane (raw) vs Big Show(smackdown)
WWE Championship match: HHH(Smackdown) vs Cena (raw)
World heavyweight championship: Edge(smackdown) vs Batista) Raw

So is there a possibility that all 3 championships belt could be on raw or Smackdown

because either way it goes there will be 2 world titles on one brand why would they do that?

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 08:59 AM
I pretty much am. Fighting the post 5am wake up, workout, and protein shake coma.

And I been callin her that. Cant jus be like everyone else LOLWhatever you do, don't call her a nickname that references a sexual action.

Apparently, she doesn't appreciate that to much. :) I found that one out the hard way.

wotto
06-24-2008, 08:59 AM
I found it funny at the end of the Vince accident spot, you hear Shawn Micheals shout "JESUS CHRIST"... Yet another cheap plug by HBK !!

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 09:01 AM
Hold on i dont get the thing with the World Titles So theres this

ECW Tittle match: Kane (raw) vs Big Show(smackdown)
WWE Championship match: HHH(Smackdown) vs Cena (raw)
World heavyweight championship: Edge(smackdown) vs Batista) Raw

So is there a possibility that all 3 championships belt could be on raw or Smackdown

because either way it goes there will be 2 world titles on one brand why would they do that?
I imagine (and hope) that it will go Kane over Big Show, Cena over HHH, and Edge over Batista.

With the Raw/ECW merger, Kane will be able to defend the belt still on ECW. Presuming, of course, that he doesn't get beaten by whichever guy challenged the winner of that match. I don't remember who did that though.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:02 AM
Whatever you do, don't call her a nickname that references a sexual action.

Apparently, she doesn't appreciate that to much. :) I found that one out the hard way.

:lmao:

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:04 AM
I imagine (and hope) that it will go Kane over Big Show, Cena over HHH, and Edge over Batista.

With the Raw/ECW merger, Kane will be able to defend the belt still on ECW. Presuming, of course, that he doesn't get beaten by whichever guy challenged the winner of that match. I don't remember who did that though.

some guy, from what im told, is fairly strong. like one of the strongest dudes in the wolrd apparently. Not surem though, they only mentioned it 500 times in about 8 minutes. I Usually need to hear it 506 to figure something out

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 09:11 AM
some guy, from what im told, is fairly strong. like one of the strongest dudes in the wolrd apparently. Not surem though, they only mentioned it 500 times in about 8 minutes. I Usually need to hear it 506 to figure something out
Bill Kasmaier? He came back to wrestling?


Is he going to carry that really large globe on his back again?

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:20 AM
Ya kno, Triple H technically could show up on ECW tonight LOL

StInGeR-HBK
06-24-2008, 09:26 AM
some guy, from what im told, is fairly strong. like one of the strongest dudes in the wolrd apparently. Not surem though, they only mentioned it 500 times in about 8 minutes. I Usually need to hear it 506 to figure something out

It's Mark Henry! He's supposed to challenge the winner of the ECW championship match. But also the ECW and RAW merger isn't supposed to happen until like August I heard so I don't see how the ECW title is gonna go back to ECW unless a trade happens soon.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:29 AM
yea, thanks for that

NEW DAWN
06-24-2008, 09:34 AM
The best part of raw to me was when C.M. Punk got drafted to raw. Now it's time for him to win the WWE championship

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 09:37 AM
Wow, I drop a Bill Kazmaier reference and NO one congratulates me for it. C'mon people, it's not often someone can do that in a logical wrestling fashion.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:39 AM
Wow, I drop a Bill Kazmaier reference and NO one congratulates me for it. C'mon people, it's not often someone can do that in a logical wrestling fashion.

Pft. Complaining about not getting repped. Poor form sly, poor form.

Maybe your post just sucked. ;)

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 09:42 AM
Pft. Complaining about not getting repped. Poor form sly, poor form.

Maybe your post just sucked. ;)
No no, I know why I'm not getting repped. It's because everyone always reps me and they have to spread it around.

I'm just talking about the fact that I legitimately brought up Bill Kazmaier and you all act like you don't even know who he is. He was the World's Strongest Man BEFORE Mark Henry.


I'm actually more disappointed in people here than I am worried about my recognition.

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:44 AM
Dammit Sly. I serve you up a perfectly pitched softball over the plate, and you just allow it to pass you by...


and yea. Bill Kazmaier is the man. acknowledged.

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 09:45 AM
Dammit Sly. I serve you up a perfectly pitched softball over the plate, and you just allow it to pass you by...


and yea. Bill Kazmaier is the man. acknowledged.

I've got two strikes already NorCal, I can't afford to swing for the fences. Have to shorten my stroke, and make the safe swing.



I blame....well, never mind. ;)

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 09:48 AM
Yea. I wouldnt want that pitch that sends you to the dugout to be originally served up by myself.

Now go post in the draft threads, and evaluate the moves. I demand it.

Slyfox696
06-24-2008, 09:49 AM
Yea. I wouldnt want that pitch that sends you to the dugout to be originally served up by myself.

Now go post in the draft threads, and evaluate the moves. I demand it.
Meh, don't feel like typing numerous lines about the draft. If the spam rule wasn't in place, I would, but way to lazy to do it now with the spam rule in place.

image1986
06-24-2008, 10:01 AM
Lets just say trips stays on sd what's the likelyhood of two major world championships being on the same show? 0 so if u think about it u would have to assume trips retains the title while edge loses it to batista so the title goes back to raw. If I'm also correct kane is going to lose the ecw title to big show since he's on raw now. And wow matt hardy on ecw? Who did he piss off. And again cm punk does a whole lot of nothing and continue to get pushed. I think this draft was retarded

CelticPride101
06-24-2008, 10:11 AM
well from this i can tell there trying to make smackdown really popular because trips? good ol jr? hardy,umaga,etc. smackdown looks real good to me and i think there pretty smart about the titles edge will loose the world heavyweight championship to batista making it raw's top title and the wwe title will be smackdown's title this draft was real good but i have to say they defintley screwed ecw i mean 1 pick? might as well cancel the damn show haha

familymark
06-24-2008, 10:19 AM
I think somehow the storyline will work its way to cena eleminating HHH in the battle royal costing Raw to draft picks so Cena is the one that has to go to smackdown not HHH. Im not quite sure how this will play out with the Mcmahon angle but I guess a return for stephanie would be good.

StInGeR-HBK
06-24-2008, 11:18 AM
I think somehow the storyline will work its way to cena eleminating HHH in the battle royal costing Raw to draft picks so Cena is the one that has to go to smackdown not HHH. Im not quite sure how this will play out with the Mcmahon angle but I guess a return for stephanie would be good.

Well Stephanie is definately not coming back with the whole baby thing right now. She's supposed to be out for a while. Trips will keep the title and he will stay in Smackdown. Edge will loose to Batista and take the title to Raw which only leaves ECW. Big Show will beat Kane taking the ECW to Smackdown while they still have a merger with ECW. Then before the merger happens with Raw and ECw, he will loose to title to someone already on the ECW roster. Possibly Matt Hardy I'm thinking.

whoopwhoop12
06-24-2008, 11:24 AM
The overall positives and negatives of the draft:

Rey Mysterio to RAW -
(good) - different atmosphere, only other time competing on RAW was against HBK in the tribute to Eddie Guerrero. 1st time ever as a member of the Raw brand.
(bad) - the number of hispanic viewers that watch SD! might decrease since they have no top star on there of hispanic decent.

Jeff Hardy to SD! - (
good) - in the light of being suspended, getting his house burnt down...etc...it's almost as if it's a fresh new start for Jeff. I think for one, Jeff will attract viewers to SD! in replace for their normal high-flyer that is on RAW now in Mysterio.
(bad) - (with the exception of messing up the wellness policy and having 2 strikes against him already, the only thing that won't help him get a title run in the near future is if HHH went to SD!....oh shit....TOO LATE!!)

CM Punk to RAW -
(good) After winning MITB, you can tell they weren't going to push him with the briefcase for another ECW title run. Punk has an interesting response, I think he has lost a little steam as a face and a possible heel turn could work out in his favor on a new show such as RAW.
(bad) - If the timing isn't right, I can see Punk working a lot of mid-card matches. Possibly, spoil that MITB opportunity to new familiar faces such as Kane, Batista or Cena. Too much star power on RAW can cause a not so popular face (compared to others) to lose steam and work mid-card for a while.

Matt Hardy to ECW -
(good) I guess you have a much younger, experienced face leading the pack of all the underutilized guys that are in the company. ECW has not became the show were all the normal mid-carders for RAW and SD! have a chance to be a top dog/main eventer on a WWE program. Matt brings the U.S. Title with him.
(bad) - not bad for Matt, but bad for the actual ECW brand. It doesn't make it seem like ECW is even close in being in the top league with RAW and SD! It goes to show how much they actually care of all the actual talent that is in the company. Plus bringing the U.S. title with him, doesn't even make ECW stand out. It signifies that it's not WWE's 3rd show, but a 2nd rate version of SD!.

Jim Ross to SD! -
(good) - A change, yes, maybe it might make SD! matches a lot more exciting since you got the top dog announcer trying to boost up WWE's 2nd Rated show.
(bad) - J.R. IS PISSED. THE FANS OF RAW ARE PISSED. EVERYBODY IS SHOCKED, but to know you go from the lead announcer of the top rated show on the USA Network to get demoted to a show that is finding a new network to broadcast it's programming, i'd be PISSED too.

Michael Cole to RAW -
(good)...SOMEBODY GOT A PROMOTION. Plus I think Cole is much better calling the action in play by play terms. We'll see how this pans out.
(bad) - The level of excitement that is brought to a match is made classic by J.R. Cole can't bring that much excitement I think to a live broadcast. Compare the excitement in 2 scenarios...
Austin Beer Truck Soaking Down the Corp. - commentated by Cole
Kurt Angle Milk Truck Soaking Down the Alliance - commentated by J.R.
*The Milk Truck was much more exciting to watch and to listen to*

Batista to RAW -
(good) - Back to where his popularity began. Looks like new things are in store for Batista. New feuds, possibly turning heel with a new Evolution faction *thats a rumor*, another title run and finally feuding with his counterpart John Cena.
(bad) - this kind of sets back anybody who did get drafted to RAW. Batista is not the most gifted wrestler ever. He has the popularity of the Ultimate Warrior backstage, he can work, but is not very good. He collided heads with Edge on a live broadcast...hmmm....

Umaga to SD!
(good) - he wasn't going anywhere fast of RAW. Too much star power had him downplayed. The only heel to be in the live draft this year. New feuds...possibly a new one with the Undertaker if he stays on SD!. A fresh new look for Umaga.
(bad) - probably the only predictable pick in the draft to occur. Not as exciting.

Kane to RAW -
(good) - The Big Red Monster is back home. He will be considered as a main event player. Takes the ECW title with him to the top show. In doing that since ECW will be traveling with RAW, their trying to give some light I guess in how significant the ECW title is.
(bad) - He will be a main-event player now, but as time progresses, he will be doing the same shit he was doing when he was on RAW last and that was working programs with Snitsky. Kane doesn't have a lot in his tank. Too many popular faces on RAW now. He's been misused a lot, and this time, it's no exception.

Mr. Kennedy to SD!
(good) - as popular as his face turn was on RAW, he started getting that return push against William Regal, but after that ended, he wasn't doing anything exciting. Going back on the show, where he debuted as a heel, might give him a lot more to work with. If there's going to be a push for Kennedy, he only screwed up once with the Wellness policy, his last injury was made out to be a lot bigger than it actually was hence him not being Mr. MITB for long in 2007. This should be Kennedy's year..........YEAR!!!
(bad) - Everywhere a young star goes, HHH is there to follow. It's now or never with a push for Kennedy in the main-event picture and by the looks of things, HHH better job or else Kennedy is staying in the mid-card for a long time. Sad to say, but it is true.

HHH to SD!
(good) - IT'S ABOUT FUCKIN' TIME. Taking the WWE title with him, we now know a title will be switching hands at Night of Champions, but either Cena or Batista will be a champion and i'm really disappointed in that. anyway...HHH gets a fresher look. Works with new people on the show. Gives SD! a new identity. Might boost up ratings with him as champion.
(bad) - FOR EVERYONE THAT IS NOW LOOKING TO GET A BIG PUSH AFTER BEING DRAFTED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF J.R., YOUR PUSH MIGHT NOT HAPPEN. Since HHH would be the stand alone face on SD!, if Taker moves to RAW...it would be hard for a young guy who's also considered a face to join him at the top. HHH doesn't like jobbing. He likes being champion. He likes having the glory. Not bad for HHH...but bad for everyone else.

SO...
which individual has the advantage of starting something...
Personally...Rey to RAW is so new in my eyes, but in regards of backstage politics and whatnot...HHH on SD! is the best way for him to get what he wants.

Too much face star power on RAW
It's a lot more diverse on SD!, but with more heels and HHH being the top face now...
ECW...eh...fuggetabout it.

justinsayne
06-24-2008, 11:51 AM
I imagine (and hope) that it will go Kane over Big Show, Cena over HHH, and Edge over Batista.

With the Raw/ECW merger, Kane will be able to defend the belt still on ECW. Presuming, of course, that he doesn't get beaten by whichever guy challenged the winner of that match. I don't remember who did that though.

Ok, this is just scary, I'm actually hoping for the same thing to happen, LOL

Mighty NorCal
06-24-2008, 11:53 AM
Prolly the way its gonna go....

Slack
06-24-2008, 12:00 PM
Here are a few things I was thinking. I have read that alot of the wrestlers like working smackdown because there is less politics backstage, but with HHH over there, does anyone think that will change? I personally do.

I think there was another reason in moving Cole to RAW and that was the WWE will one day have to find a replacement for Ross. It will probably be easier to find a replacement for Ross on Smackdown when he does leave.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
06-24-2008, 01:02 PM
The overall positives and negatives of the draft:

YOu did a great job with your breakdown. If you don;t mind, I just want to add a little to what you have stated, that way my thoughts are focused. lol

Rey Mysterio to RAW -
(good) - different atmosphere, only other time competing on RAW was against HBK in the tribute to Eddie Guerrero. 1st time ever as a member of the Raw brand.
(bad) - the number of hispanic viewers that watch SD! might decrease since they have no top star on there of hispanic decent.

Very true. But they could always pull the post draft day movement that they did the last time. This might move a disgruntled Carlito over to Smackdown, which would lend a spanish influence to the show. His brother could also be called up as well. Other minorities could be moved around as well such as Deuce Shade and Melina.

Jeff Hardy to SD! - (
good) - in the light of being suspended, getting his house burnt down...etc...it's almost as if it's a fresh new start for Jeff. I think for one, Jeff will attract viewers to SD! in replace for their normal high-flyer that is on RAW now in Mysterio.
(bad) - (with the exception of messing up the wellness policy and having 2 strikes against him already, the only thing that won't help him get a title run in the near future is if HHH went to SD!....oh shit....TOO LATE!!)

I think that the WWE just doesn't know what to do with Hardy. Every move they make that puts him and his brother together is contradicted by a move to keep them apart. I'm not sure what the deal is, but it remains to be seen what Jeff's move to SD will mean for him. He gets demoted. Does that mean that he is getting a push as well? We shall see.

CM Punk to RAW -
(good) After winning MITB, you can tell they weren't going to push him with the briefcase for another ECW title run. Punk has an interesting response, I think he has lost a little steam as a face and a possible heel turn could work out in his favor on a new show such as RAW.
(bad) - If the timing isn't right, I can see Punk working a lot of mid-card matches. Possibly, spoil that MITB opportunity to new familiar faces such as Kane, Batista or Cena. Too much star power on RAW can cause a not so popular face (compared to others) to lose steam and work mid-card for a while.

I'm not even sure what to think of this move is supposed to do. But I believe that we should keep our eyes on it as it could mean big things. But not in the way you think. Picture this. If Trips retains and so does Edge, and Kane loses, then that leave no World title on RAW. Hence the angle that could be done is that Punk cashes in his money in the bank to take on one of the champs. With a little help from his RAW bretheren, he wins a world title and does something that could be done but has never been done. He brings the title to RAW! I could see such a swerve happening. The chase and the anticipation surely would gain some ratings. Plus, it would be something fresh.

Matt Hardy to ECW -
(good) I guess you have a much younger, experienced face leading the pack of all the underutilized guys that are in the company. ECW has not became the show were all the normal mid-carders for RAW and SD! have a chance to be a top dog/main eventer on a WWE program. Matt brings the U.S. Title with him.
(bad) - not bad for Matt, but bad for the actual ECW brand. It doesn't make it seem like ECW is even close in being in the top league with RAW and SD! It goes to show how much they actually care of all the actual talent that is in the company. Plus bringing the U.S. title with him, doesn't even make ECW stand out. It signifies that it's not WWE's 3rd show, but a 2nd rate version of SD!.

Well I guess since they took Kane away, this is a way of getting back to faster matches rather than squashfests. But does that mean that Smackdown is now left without a secondary title while a smaller show gets one? Hmm, interesting move.

Jim Ross to SD! -
(good) - A change, yes, maybe it might make SD! matches a lot more exciting since you got the top dog announcer trying to boost up WWE's 2nd Rated show.
(bad) - J.R. IS PISSED. THE FANS OF RAW ARE PISSED. EVERYBODY IS SHOCKED, but to know you go from the lead announcer of the top rated show on the USA Network to get demoted to a show that is finding a new network to broadcast it's programming, i'd be PISSED too.

This had to be the best sell of the night! The look on JR.'s face and the silence that followed was just priceless. I actually thought this to be a completely spontaneous move. Until..........

Michael Cole to RAW -
(good)...SOMEBODY GOT A PROMOTION. Plus I think Cole is much better calling the action in play by play terms. We'll see how this pans out.
(bad) - The level of excitement that is brought to a match is made classic by J.R. Cole can't bring that much excitement I think to a live broadcast. Compare the excitement in 2 scenarios...
Austin Beer Truck Soaking Down the Corp. - commentated by Cole
Kurt Angle Milk Truck Soaking Down the Alliance - commentated by J.R.
*The Milk Truck was much more exciting to watch and to listen to*

Mike was a lousy seller. He pulled the trigger too quickly and had me wondering if it was a draft pick or a trade. I mean you knew someone was leaving Smackdown, but Cole tipped his hat and let you know it could have been him. He took the thunder away from JR selling the whole thing so well. I just hope that he is a better lead announcer than he is an actor. I hear that Cole was ribbing Taz by saying that Adamle was going to be going to RAW. For some reason, I think that Adamle would have done a better acting job than Cole.

Batista to RAW -
(good) - Back to where his popularity began. Looks like new things are in store for Batista. New feuds, possibly turning heel with a new Evolution faction *thats a rumor*, another title run and finally feuding with his counterpart John Cena.
(bad) - this kind of sets back anybody who did get drafted to RAW. Batista is not the most gifted wrestler ever. He has the popularity of the Ultimate Warrior backstage, he can work, but is not very good. He collided heads with Edge on a live broadcast...hmmm....

Batista to RAW would only work if Trips moved the opposite way. And it happened. Just not the way that we were expecting. So it would pointless to have a reformed Evolution faction if Trips isn't there to go against. But Batista as a super heel would work well playing off of Jericho. So it will interesting to see what they do with him.

Umaga to SD!
(good) - he wasn't going anywhere fast of RAW. Too much star power had him downplayed. The only heel to be in the live draft this year. New feuds...possibly a new one with the Undertaker if he stays on SD!. A fresh new look for Umaga.
(bad) - probably the only predictable pick in the draft to occur. Not as exciting.

This was needed. Umaga, as an entity, had become nothing more than a joke on RAW. He was no longer unstoppable. He was no longer a monster. He was no longer feared. Hopefully a fresh start with fresh feuds on Smackdown will either make him the monster heel he once was or it will enable him to become a Monty Brown TNA type where fans will cheer him to destroy heels. Of course, that will be a sign of weakness, but it's good to have another monster heel on SD who can work more than just a squash match. Of course, it looks now like there will never be a return of the CW title with all of the big men and big names on the show now.

Kane to RAW -
(good) - The Big Red Monster is back home. He will be considered as a main event player. Takes the ECW title with him to the top show. In doing that since ECW will be traveling with RAW, their trying to give some light I guess in how significant the ECW title is.
(bad) - He will be a main-event player now, but as time progresses, he will be doing the same shit he was doing when he was on RAW last and that was working programs with Snitsky. Kane doesn't have a lot in his tank. Too many popular faces on RAW now. He's been misused a lot, and this time, it's no exception.

So is he a face or a heel on RAW now? IS this his last run before he retires or what? I'm not even sure what to do with Kane anymore, so I surely don't know what WWE plans to do with him. He's not a main title type anymore. So are they going to stagnate the IC title with him now? Or will he take Umaga's place as the once mighty monster who now gets beat easily? Now even sure if I want to see.

Mr. Kennedy to SD!
(good) - as popular as his face turn was on RAW, he started getting that return push against William Regal, but after that ended, he wasn't doing anything exciting. Going back on the show, where he debuted as a heel, might give him a lot more to work with. If there's going to be a push for Kennedy, he only screwed up once with the Wellness policy, his last injury was made out to be a lot bigger than it actually was hence him not being Mr. MITB for long in 2007. This should be Kennedy's year..........YEAR!!!
(bad) - Everywhere a young star goes, HHH is there to follow. It's now or never with a push for Kennedy in the main-event picture and by the looks of things, HHH better job or else Kennedy is staying in the mid-card for a long time. Sad to say, but it is true.

I hate to be a supporter of wrestlers juicing, but Kennedy looks bad. And while he has strong mic skills, his look has gone downhill as if he is afraid to get back in the gym and pump up or define a bit. He looks like Kurt Angle, if Kurt Angle were less defined. And that is NOT a good thing. Hopefully he will get a push on SD. I doubt it though.

HHH to SD!
(good) - IT'S ABOUT FUCKIN' TIME. Taking the WWE title with him, we now know a title will be switching hands at Night of Champions, but either Cena or Batista will be a champion and i'm really disappointed in that. anyway...HHH gets a fresher look. Works with new people on the show. Gives SD! a new identity. Might boost up ratings with him as champion.
(bad) - FOR EVERYONE THAT IS NOW LOOKING TO GET A BIG PUSH AFTER BEING DRAFTED, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF J.R., YOUR PUSH MIGHT NOT HAPPEN. Since HHH would be the stand alone face on SD!, if Taker moves to RAW...it would be hard for a young guy who's also considered a face to join him at the top. HHH doesn't like jobbing. He likes being champion. He likes having the glory. Not bad for HHH...but bad for everyone else.

I doubt that this will last. Trips is making a huge sacrifice to help build up ratings for the new network, but e won't stay on Smackdown for too much longer. SOMETHING will bring him back to RAW. Just not sure what yet. But an angle has to be in the works for him to return in a few months. Smackdown's atmosphere is too free for him to be able to breathe comfortably there.


There can still be after draft day moves that shake things up. It will be interesting to see if they come about and what they are. But I CAN tell you this. The Mr. McMahon injury angle will not juice up ratings any.

whoopwhoop12
06-24-2008, 01:51 PM
the draft overall had to make the ratings go significantly up, if they didn't then you can tell that WWE is slowly losing its step.

noticed how last year mr kennedy's pop as a heel being brought to RAW was a lot louder than mr kennedy as a face being brought to SD!??

It is true that things have gotten shaken up again, but will it be the best for the other talent that didn't go anywhere?

Who deserves title runs after the draft?
Jeff Hardy, Mr. Kennedy, CM Punk (even though creative pushes him for doing nothing nowadays), and even Umaga....(SD! needs to make him a monster....what a way to do that if they put the title on him) even Rey Mysterio when he comes back might be suitable to be a top contender for a title reign just because of maneuvering the Hispanic audience to watch WWE's #1 show.

Who doesn't deserve title runs after the draft?
Batista and HHH...nuff said.

Who won't get major title runs after the draft?
Matt Hardy,- Maybe...don't know what this ECW situation is gonna be like, but it doesn't look good regardless.
Kane...i just don't think it's necessary since hes back on RAW. they're not gonna make him a top guy with another title run. His time is running out...

TheRealLionheart089
06-24-2008, 02:08 PM
The highlights of the draft show for me were:

-Miz and Morrison beating the Hardyz, which helps build them up for potential main event spots

-HHH to Smackdown!

-The set 'collapsing' on Vince McMahon, at first I thought it was real, but when the fireworks went off, I knew it was part of the show

-JR, King, Mick Foley, Michael Cole's facial expressions/mannerism's after JR was drafted to Smackdown!

-Looking at how stacked RAW and Smackdowns teams were in the battle royal compared to ECW's team of borderline cruiserweights that all were jobbing like a year ago lol

-Mike Adamle calling Umaga the "Samoan Bulldog" only to be corrected a couple seconds later by Mick Foley LMAO

simpsons_fanatic742
06-24-2008, 02:18 PM
One hilarious moment was when Mick Foley was running down his resume of tough matches, only to say that his biggest challenge is commentating with Adamle.

Youalreadyknow420
06-24-2008, 02:54 PM
The draft was not bad at all. But lets be serious, I doubt edge loses to batista especially after the doofy shyt he did on raw. Now its way more likely John Cena will take the wwe title back to raw. Now i rather have john cena coming to SD than hhh. Why does it seem where ever hhh goes he has issues with someone? Now i can't see the greatest wrestler of all time on SD(Undertaker) no more due to a pick like hhh. I would of enjoyed HHH on ecw more than any other brand. NOW Kennedy and hardy and umaga won't get any real push cuz of this man. Damn i hope cena wins and batista loses and kane wins till someone from ecw can beat him. (don't be shocked if morrison and miz gets drafted to smackdown within a week.)

healyz84
06-24-2008, 04:02 PM
Highlight to me is that ecw now has no world champion. Even if Kane loses the title to the Big Show, Big Show is on Smackdown, so unless they do a swerve where he changes brands, ecw = no world champion. But they do have the US title, whoopdido! Im actually glad I don't watch ecw because man did they look ever weak on the show. Its like besides Matt Hardy, they are all looked like a bunch of jobbers. Even Miz/Morrison, the only ecwers to win, ended up looking terribly weak in the battle royal. The ecw brand was totally gutted, and I bet they are counting their days until they are moved to raw. I just wish that the wwe just ended this brand already, and need be, cut the jobbers that will fill up space for all the useful wrestlers.

I also liked HHH moving to smackdown, and I hope he stays there. Its time for the next tier of superstars to take over raw.

edub
06-24-2008, 04:22 PM
With both belts being on smackdown. I see batista taking the the title away from triple H. Then you can have cena/orton/batista feuding on raw. Then triple h and Edge and start a program on smackdown.

thecruiser
06-25-2008, 09:28 AM
I think all of you are wrong about Triple H. While at first the other new guys may not be pushed to where they were at a few months ago, who are Triple H and Edge going to feud with once they are done their program? Jeff Hardy and Edge, Mr. Kennedy and MVP, Big Show and Triple H, and vice-versa for everyone on that list. MVP and Kennedy, with the help of Edge, Hardy, Big Show, and Triple H are going to become the main event superstars they were destined to be. I'm thinking these six guys are going to make ratings for SmackDown! sky-rocket within the next few months, and the CW network is going to be shitting its pants about the stupid decision they made to let SD! go to MyNetwork TV.

Also, about the Hispanic demo on SmackDown! declining due to Mysterio's trade, that would just be moved over to RAW, where their ratings would increase with the move. RAW's AND SmackDown!'s ratings are going to be high over the next few months because of these trades. RAW's may be higher because of Undertaker possibly moving to the red brand, but I have a feeling SD!'s are going to be MUCH higher now. After this draft, I want to watch SmackDown! more than RAW because of all the amazing feuds the main eventers are going to have. This is a good time in professional wrestling for all fans alike.