Who is the worst champion in WWE's History [Archive]

mcflyboy

06-12-2008, 07:09 PM

When I first read the title of this thread, I assumed that you meant heavyweight champion. If you're including any title, then it's pretty broad. I also am not sure if by "worst" you mean because you didn't like them as champion, or they had no business being given a title. Because there are quite a few folks who really had no business having a title, but it sort of worked for temporary storyline purposes...such as vince mcmahon being the heavyweight champion.

It would probably be easiest to think of women's or tag team, as there were quite a few stinkers in there. Women's has had candice michelle, stephanie mcmahon, "the kat", debra, and sable, who weren't really qualified to have title runs. For tag teams, ones that come quickest to mind are the spirit squad, but that sort of worked for storyline purposes since they were vince's boys at the time...but you never really saw many of them (outside of Kenny) wrestle with any sort of regularity. And there's a couple that just didn't really seem to fit well (suzuki and renee dupree together? and right to censor?)

If you're asking who has been given a title simply because they were being pushed and not because of any superior skill at the time, well then there's quite a few who meet those criteria.

Golden Standard

06-12-2008, 07:17 PM

This is an obious choice. Its The Great Khali. I mean sure their is Hornswoggle but he was an entertaining champion then Khali was. Plus if you think about it The CW division was going down the tubs anyway. The World Title is one of the most prestigus titles in sports entertainment and that guy held the title.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

06-12-2008, 07:22 PM

Hornswoggle's definitely a contender, but only because they didn't have him lose the title the night afterwards. They could've had him get that quick win over Jamie Noble, then have Noble challenge him on Smackdown and beat the shit out of him, winning the title. For a while, they were going with this whole "Shannon Moore and Hornswoggle play tricks on Noble" story, which they could've continued doing, except having Moore vs Noble for the Cruiserweight title in the process. That would've had a quick comedy thing that was overturned almost immediately and then boosted the careers of two legitimate wrestlers.

Khali is another one. His entire title reign was a stall. Yeah, it was a quick reaction made via injury, but really, it was the same thing we've seen 100 times (and several times since then). Someone is champion, claiming nobody can beat them. Batista comes out, smiles, cuts the exact same promo, challenges the person, steamrolls through jobbers, and then wrestles through at least 3 ppvs before winning the title or being thrown in a "last chance" match that he loses. Repeat again in 1 month.

Then there's Santino Marella's Intercontinental run. Let's face it, as entertaining as the guy is now, he was beyond horrible back then. No good moves (well, he still doesn't have any lol), a boring face, never put in a good feud, never even won any real matches without a roll-up or interference...he was TERRIBLE as IC champ.

Chavo Guerrero as ECW champion. Horrible choice. Might not be the worst champ in WWE history, but he's definitely one of the worst out of the most recent years. Shouldn't have even been a legitimate challenger for the title, let alone winner. I'd have rather had Hawkins or Ryder win it than him, and that's not saying much until they prove they could be a solid tag team first lol.

Davi323

06-12-2008, 08:07 PM

If we are only counting a World Heavyweight level title, and WCW doesn't count (so no David Arquette) its easily when Vince McMahon held the belt for 6 days in 1999. If everything is included that was WWE, and not just the big belts, I would have to pick Harvey "Hervina" Whippleman as the Womens champion.

Taker316

06-12-2008, 08:15 PM

Well, thing is Hornswoggle's CW title reign was really for the sole purpose of getting RID of the title. So really, thats all it was for therefore it accomplished its goal. Now Khali, i dont know what they were thinking at the slightest... But i mean, he was the biggest, most dominant guy... but still boring as a stick. Then again, feuding with the likes of Batista, im sure that didnt help the guy either (dont know which one to feel sorry for in that feud).

Lets not even get started on the Tag champs, Way too much bullshit, stupid random people thrown together to make a *team* or *team champs* and all that.

Having VINCE as ECW champ was.... awful. even worse then Chavo, which was pretty horrible itself.

Thats all for now!

Rebel2K8

06-13-2008, 11:41 AM

Without a doubt John Cena wins this one hands down. I don't care how entertaining he was or how much Vince backed him, the worst decision they mad was taking away his rapper gimmick to make him more kid friendly. From then on, Cena never deserved the title because of his lame wannabe promos and let's not even get started on his worse than horrible wrestling ability.

Another top contender is Rey Mysterio. Need I remind u he was beaten by three different superstars in consecutive weeks: Khali, Mark Henry and Kane. Chavo had to save him from losing the title to Mark Henry or some convenient interruption prevented Kurt from winning it back each time. Rey is cool but never deserved a World Title run. If he comes back an ECW title reign wouldn't be so bad but not the top two championships.

Hornswoggle for sure is singlehandedly responsible for killing an already struggline cruiserweight division and now he is the reason Finlay is light years form gaining another World Title opportunity.

I almost forgot Matt Hardy, the reason the US Title's prestige is now dead. Benoit and especially MVP brought that title's prestige back from the gutter that Orlando Jordan buried it to contend with the IC title, but no Vince had to give it to crappy Matt Hardy just to sell his stupid dvd with Jeff. Mind u, Jeff is super talented and I believe he will be a great World Champion someday, but Matt, whatever talent he had went when he decided he wanted to get more muscle and now he's fat. I hope he loses it at Night of Champions. He is the most overrated piece of garbage on the WWE roster.

Other easy contenders include Khali, Cody Rhodes and Hardcore Holly and Santino Marella but for sure Cena wins this award hands down. CENA SUX.

Slim Pickns

06-13-2008, 12:43 PM

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone mentioned John Cena. The same John Cena, that was getting crap for RAW drawing 3.5's with him as WWE Champion. The same RAW, that was drawing 3's with Cena in the background and HHH up front. Now, Cena has been brought back to the main event, because he is the only one capable of boosting the ratings back to what they were when he was on top.

I love how you called John Cena entertaining but said he is a crap wrestler, thats the best statement I have read anywhere. He is definately not the worst champion ever, in fact, he's probably the best champion in the last five years.

As for the worst, its too hard to tell. The attitude era has its fair share of bombs, but that era was more about the edgy stories than the championships. More people cared about Austin vs Vince than they did about the WWF Title, so its hard to call those champs bad. Rey Mysterio gets a lot of crap because his reign was pretty bad, but at the time, people couldn't wait to see him win the World Title.

kurtisraw07

06-14-2008, 03:26 AM

Slim Pickns, your comments on Cena can't be taken seriously either because you're obviously a Cena mark. However, I do agree that Cena isn't the worst Champion ever. For the 14 years I've been watching WWE, Cena is probably the Champion I could least tolerate, but he's not the worst overall Champion. It's hard to pick one because you have Rey Mysterio, Khali and Kevin Nash and a few others to pick from. All of them were horrible Champions. I would have to say Khali is the worst Champion ever, based on the fact that he has zero wrestling ability, he doesn't talk, and he didn't draw.

Malicant

06-14-2008, 03:40 AM

How can u justify saying John Cena, Matt Hardy and Rey Mysterio were the worst champions in history when we have just seen The Great Khalis title run. Just to point out a flaw with that arguement. They can speak English. I dont even think Khali can speak indian. I just saw Khali live and man that guy is terrible. He comes out gets hit once or twice, roars (I think but he could be saying anything) and then hits them over the head. I know he's supposed to be unstoppable because of his size. Maybe a 10 year old thinks 'HOLY CRAP' but any one over that age just think 'This is crap'.

Canadian Knight

06-14-2008, 08:59 AM

The Great Khali was champion? Did i blink or was i asleep? To say he is the worse, i don't know. He has so few moves and obviously did not even have a full run as champ. Rey while i like his high flying moves, how could he actually wrestle against the heavyweights, especially when one of them is the Big Show? It was like the 1-2-3 Kid vs. Yokozuna. SQUASH.

Mr. Showtime

06-14-2008, 07:39 PM

The Great Khali and Horsnwoggle. I'm completely baffled as to why these two ever even came close to tasting championship gold nevermind winning some.

So many great talents in the wrestling industry are working their asses off just to have a televised match, but somehow Khali and Hornswoggle are allowed to win championships, it's really sad and pathetic if you ask me.

Danmen001

06-14-2008, 09:43 PM

Slim Pickns, your comments on Cena can't be taken seriously either because you're obviously a Cena mark.

Hahahaha, Slim's gonna own your ass. But I got here first so....

Why should we listen to what you said, I mean your obviosuly a noob mark.

However, I do agree that Cena isn't the worst Champion ever.

Even though I agree with you, I totally disagree with the way you put that. Cena is a fantastic champion, he drew the ratings like Da Vinci made paintings. Fantastically.

For the 14 years I've been watching WWE, Cena is probably the Champion I could least tolerate, but he's not the worst overall Champion.

You, he is your least favourite..... but he isn't your worst. Right.

It's hard to pick one because you have Rey Mysterio,

What is wrong with the littlest underdog being a champion for once.

Khali

He brought in a fan base from India, Khali is huge (pun intended) in India if you didnt' know.

and Kevin Nash and a few others to pick from.

Meh.

All of them were horrible Champions.

Wrong. They weren't fantastic, but they were good.

I would have to say Khali is the worst Champion ever, based on the fact that he has zero wrestling ability, he doesn't talk, and he didn't draw.

I would have to say your wrong, based on the fact your a noob, and your opinion doesn't draw attention. Khali is a monster, he uses monster like moves. He is Indian, he isn't ment to have to talk English. He drew a big India fan base actually.

Now for my opinion. I am gonna have to go with Hornswaggle, as much as it was entertainingly random for him to him the belt. He kinda killed the cruiserweight division. Other contenders are Chavo, as much as he is decent I don't think he should have been ECW champion.

kurtisraw07

06-15-2008, 01:51 AM

I would like to gripe back at you because you called me a noob, but I don't have the patience to think of a clever insult to throw back at you. I am definitely not a noob. Everybody with a brain in their head knows Kevin Nash didn't draw shit in 95 as WWE Champion. Khali drew absolutely NOTHING in America which is where WWE garners the majority of it's ratings and revenue. Rey Mysterio's reign was probably worse than both Benoit's and Eddie Guererro's. Neither of them drew much of anything despite Eddie being a great wrestler and talker. On John Cena, I said he was my least favorite Champion. Hogan would've been , but I didn't start watching wrestling until 94 so thankfully I missed that garbage. I also said Cena wasn't the worst Champion in terms of business, because he wasn't. I know that people can cheer for Cena if they want, but I don't have to like Cena and I don't. I also can't understand why anyone would like Cena. He's billed as "the best" that Raw and the WWE has to offer. I mean come on. A guy that Brock Lesnar, a legit badass, destroyed in like a minute, the best in the WWE? Not buying it. And that's my right as a fan. I don't have to like something just because Vince wants everybody too. Well actually he probably realizes that only teen girls and little kids will like him. Oddly enough Raw's rating went from TV 14 to PG. I wonder why? Well like I said, Khali in my opinion is the worst Champion ever.

Monkey Winchester

06-15-2008, 02:03 AM

I'm gonna go with Diesel. He achieved almost nothing excpet for a year long title reign. Then he was made to look like a fool by Shawn Michaels. He didnt draw worth a shit. Which is a shame because the guy is charasmatic as all get out. Nothing seemed to work for him in his title reign.

For the people that say Hornswoggle, I tend to disagree. How could he be a bad champion to a title that was non existent anyways. Its almost being like the bowl winners for the XFL.

Mcmahon's reign as ECW champ wasnt bad either. He was getting so much heat for it, it was almost ungodly. Alot of people hated him so much for it that they wanted to see Lashley get it back. Isn't that the point in the first place?

The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh

06-15-2008, 09:33 AM

Any champ? As Davi323 said, Harvey Whippleman as the Women's champ. Wtf were they smoking there?
World Title? Vinnie Mac as the ECW champ, not the WWE champ. With the WWE title, at least he abdicated it straight away, and only won due to Austin's interference. However we had to watch a bald Vince walk around with the ECW title that he'd figeratively been pissing all over for the past year or so anyway, thanks to a 3-on-1 screw job that he did nothing for.

I actually got out of my seat and expressed my absolute disgust verbally in front of everyone in the room, and most of them didn't understand why i was so angry.

A title that was the richest prize of a roster that gave you balls to the wall wrestling with none of the extra layers of fabricated bullshit that Vince and Eric piled upon the pre-existing fabricated bullshit that is professional wrestling, in a promotion where most people had two jobs, worked day and night and made fuck all money, was now being worn by the one man of the big three who never even had to try to become a millionaire and didn't give two shits about who he bought and sold to stay that way.

In laymans terms the ECW title that was respected by fans who enjoyed real wrestling as well as violence was being held by a business man who never understood why his approach wud b the death of pro wrestling in the mainstream i.e. merging all territories into his and then making his product so bad that no one wud watch it. Thankfully ROH and TNA have prevented those events except for Vince's product driving it's viewers away.

That's why Vince as ECW champ is the worst champ reign ever IMO.

Y 2 Jake

06-15-2008, 09:39 AM

Instant Classic

06-15-2008, 09:57 AM

HHH because he has been a consistantly bad champion for 10 years. He has had the title 11 times and none of his reigns are particularly memorable for been anything other than boring. He has the unique ability to suck anything entertaining from the entire wrestling world when he becomes champion, and while other one off champions were worse collectivly HHH is the worse champion ever.

The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh

06-15-2008, 10:59 AM

Vince has been the best ECW champ since that title came back. That guy made Bobby Lashley into more of a main event player than a Survivor Series main event, and huge Mania match ever did. Vince is the sole reason that anybody gave a shit when Lashley left WWE. I don't see how you can say he wasn't a great champion. He had amazing heat. Fans despised him. They couldn't wait for the bland Lashley to defeat him for the title.

Yeah, but my response was nothing to do with how it made everyone love Lashley and hate Vince's character more, it was to do with Vince the business man moving from disrespecting ECW to using the title as toilet paper.
Being hated doesn't make you a great champion dude, nor does challenging a champ that no one likes. Being a good wrestler regardless of whether you're face or heel makes you a great champion. In fact, being the champion doesn't make you a good wrestler and that comes from the mouth of Shawn Michaels, one of the best wrestlers of this generation.
JBL took his beatings, gave great heel promos and was a great champion for those reasons. Not because we all wanted to see him lose.
Orton took even worse beatings, gave even better promos, and had some great matches and that's why people loved him as the champ.
Vince McMahon pinning someone in a match, doing nothing for 2 months and then losing is only slightly better than Hornswoggle pinning someone, doing nothing for 2 months and then vacating the title, so i disagree.
The best ECW champ since it came back was the Big Show, for regularly defending the title nearly every week, and was contested under Extreme rules almost every time, which makes his reign 1000x better than all the ECW champs after him put together.

Y 2 Jake

06-15-2008, 11:08 AM

Yeah, but my response was nothing to do with how it made everyone love Lashley and hate Vince's character more, it was to do with Vince the business man moving from disrespecting ECW to using the title as toilet paper.
Being hated doesn't make you a great champion dude, nor does challenging a champ that no one likes. Being a good wrestler regardless of whether you're face or heel makes you a great champion. In fact, being the champion doesn't make you a good wrestler and that comes from the mouth of Shawn Michaels, one of the best wrestlers of this generation.
JBL took his beatings, gave great heel promos and was a great champion for those reasons. Not because we all wanted to see him lose.
Orton took even worse beatings, gave even better promos, and had some great matches and that's why people loved him as the champ.
Vince McMahon pinning someone in a match, doing nothing for 2 months and then losing is only slightly better than Hornswoggle pinning someone, doing nothing for 2 months and then vacating the title, so i disagree.

The most retarded post I've read all day. And I've just spent the last hour in the prison. Are you honestly saying that how well you wrestle makes you a great champion? That isn't even remotely important. You say that JBL is a great champion. But you state that he was cutting great heel promos. Those promos were the only thing that got him over as champion. It wasn't his average matches that got the fans behind him. Even Taker & Angle struggled to get reactions in matches against him.

Being hated is the whole point of being a heel. At the time Vince McMahon was the most hated heel in the company. He's been the most hated heel in the company for a good decade now. Vince is the greatest talker in the whole of WWE. Forget Edge, Orton, HHH, Cena, JBL and others. It's Vince who's the premier heel in the company. He is to Austin what Piper was to Hogan.

The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh

06-15-2008, 11:24 AM

Y 2 Jake

06-15-2008, 11:31 AM

But we're not discussing what makes a great heel we're talking about who's a shit champ, and in my opinion Vince McMahon was the worst when he was ECW champ.

If you don't agree, i couldn't give a fuck and having a go at me for my personal views because you disagree makes you a ****, plain and simple. The only thing you'll see that's retarded today is yourself when you look in the mirror.

It's the purpose of the forum. Somebody talks about something, you reply and give your opinion. Which is what I did. Fine if you think that Vince was a poor champion. I don't think he was. I explained that Vince recieved more heat as champion than most. You told me that it was wrestling ability that makes you a great champion. Which just isn't the case. You then rant. I don't mind. Enjoy yourself.

An example of a poor champion could possibly be a WCW champion from the final few months. Forgettable, unimportant, pointless reigns, little reactions to title changes, drew no money. Stuff like that.

wetland

06-15-2008, 01:24 PM

Y 2 Jake

06-16-2008, 09:17 PM

Am i the only one thinking of this but King Booker, being champion as face booker T he would have probably got some sort of good reaction or being heel booker T, as champion No one gave a damn about the gimmick or the wrestler, no-one cared they just wanted him to loose the title. I can't even remember much at all about his title reign apart from the fact i hated every single second of it.

The King character made Booker fresh again. He's been plain T for years, and was boring the hell out of everybody. He relished the oppertunity to do something new, and he really went for it with the role. If you didn't like him it was because he was doing his job. His reign was poor. But that's because he'd just taken it off one of the least credible champs of all time. And everyone knew he was only holding it for Batista.

Slim Pickns

06-17-2008, 10:59 AM

Slim Pickns, your comments on Cena can't be taken seriously either because you're obviously a Cena mark.

If I'm going to take that as a fair point then you cannot debate anything Kennedy on here seeing as your tag line is Kennedy Mark.

The reason John Cena isn't the worst champion is rather simple, he draws ratings all over. Internet forums are the only place in the world you can go and have Cena fans be the minority. Ask NorCal, he can tell you how many people were into Cena when he was at Backlash. The Cena fans are all the sudden showing up here, but most of them will turn when he wins the WWE Title back eventually. For some reason, everyone has a hard time giving the guy credit (jealousy?).

As for your Brock Lesnar comment, I posted the match which was well over a minute. I'm not sure where you got that comment from, that match was even. Cena seemed like a legit threat right until Brock pulled the F5 out of nowhere.

BaconBits

06-17-2008, 06:31 PM

I'm going to catch hell for this, but Hulk Hogan was the worst champion ever. His wrestling ability was absolutely abominal, his promos were lame (I thought that even when I was 6 or 7 watching WWF on Saturday mornings), he never put anybody over, and he emobodies everything that is wrong with wrestling. There were far more creative and entertaining wrestlers than Hulk in the company during his reign, yet nobody remembers them because Hulk and Vince wouldn't let you.

Monkey Winchester

06-17-2008, 07:35 PM

I'm going to catch hell for this, but Hulk Hogan was the worst champion ever.

Wow. You've got some balls thats for sure.

His wrestling ability was absolutely abominal, his promos were lame (I thought that even when I was 6 or 7 watching WWF on Saturday mornings).

His wrestling ability was'nt bad. He had the charisma of a god, and his mic work was unparalleled. When Hogan talked, you listened, and you believed. When you watched him in a match he was larger than life. He was the end all be all. At the time.

He never put anybody over, and he emobodies everything that is wrong with wrestling.

I agree that he put few over. But he didnt need to. He was that damn good. He was given the strap because he could carry the company, and he could draw like no other. The only 2 people that I can think of that could even touch him on a drawing stanpoint are Stone Cold and John Cena.

There were far more creative and entertaining wrestlers than Hulk in the company during his reign, yet nobody remembers them because Hulk and Vince wouldn't let you.

Meh. The only other people that were even close at the time were The Ultimate Warrior, and Macho Man. They were not even in Hogans league. Hogan would captivate an audience and he was the biggest draw of the 80's and early 90's. Hogan will go down as one of the best champions ever.

mcflyboy

06-17-2008, 08:17 PM

I think that both baconbits and monkeymania make good points (I just had to reread that sentence, as it sounds kind of funny out of context). Anyway, Hogan was a huge draw and no one could touch him on the microphone. He would sell tickets, and had such a bandwagon it was hard to stop him. At the same time, I agree that his wrestling skills were nothing exceptional. Yes, he was strong. But really, in the ring he was the way Cena was (i'd actually preface that by saying how cena was during his title run, he is improving). He spent most of the main matches getting dominated, and really had a small repertoire of moves. And his finisher was probably one of the lamest ever.

Still, it would be hard not to argue that he was probably one of the most successful champions of all time. Even those who didn't watch wrestling knew who hulk hogan was. You probably can't say that about any other wrestler, past or present.

Davi323

06-17-2008, 10:03 PM

Hulk Hogan was not a great wrestler...but, considering how wrestling boomed and rose in popularity when Hogan wore the belt in the 1980s, how can he possibly be considered a bad champion? The WWF/E Championship is NOT about who the best wrestler is. Its about DRAWING power. Its about who can put the most butts in the most seats. It is essentially, nothing more than a prop designed to increase ratings. Hulk Hogan wore the belt for so long, because of all the reasons mcflyboy lists. He got a LOT of people to watch WWF programming. That in and of itself, is reason to accept Hogan as a great champion, not a poor one. Hogan exemplified what the belt is designed to do.

The Dungeon

06-18-2008, 01:05 AM

t's the purpose of the forum. Somebody talks about something, you reply and give your opinion. Which is what I did. Fine if you think that Vince was a poor champion. I don't think he was. I explained that Vince recieved more heat as champion than most. You told me that it was wrestling ability that makes you a great champion. Which just isn't the case. You then rant. I don't mind. Enjoy yourself.

An example of a poor champion could possibly be a WCW champion from the final few months. Forgettable, unimportant, pointless reigns, little reactions to title changes, drew no money. Stuff like that.

Well of course Vince can draw heat....he's VINCE! But did it really draw all that well? No of course not! It was just another way for Vince to enlarge his ego....and piss on the already dead legacy of ECW! From a storyline standpoint, it was poorly written and did nothing for nobody!

However I do agree that ability doesen't always make a great champion.......look at Hogan...great champ...but not that great in the ring! Shawn Michaels...had amazing matches as a champion in 1996....but drew poorly!

06-18-2008, 01:45 PM

I have 2 choices that may bring me some heat............

Ken Kennedys US Title Run
Some people don't even remember this.I rememeber the run but forget who he pinned(I think it was Lashley by a roll up........Im not sure).But dear god his reign did nothing for the kid.He basically had the strap because he "needed" a belt and Lashley was off some cards for some "illness".Horrible,Forgettable Reign.

Lashleys ECW Title run
Where to start..............I can't name one damn good match from this run.When he won the belt he was booed and fans actully wanted the Big Show to have the title back.Lashley wasn't ready for a belt like this and blew it with his awful promos("Your a bath turd").Also the end of the reign was awful.Lashleys wins the title back after a long feud and then suddenley drafted to Raw.P.O.I.N.T.L.E.S.S

Y 2 Jake

06-21-2008, 04:16 AM

Well of course Vince can draw heat....he's VINCE! But did it really draw all that well? No of course not! It was just another way for Vince to enlarge his ego....and piss on the already dead legacy of ECW! From a storyline standpoint, it was poorly written and did nothing for nobody!

He was the ECW champion. He didn't really need to draw. It's not like it's a legitimate title. It's mid card. It was only important for about 6 weeks in the summer of 2006.

You can't honestly say that Lashley didn't benefit from being associated with Vince?

Instant Classic

06-21-2008, 07:10 AM

I agree the Vince feud made Lashely. Vince carried lahley and his stupid soft nervous voice through months of promos and storylines to help make it a half decent feud and give Lashley legitimacy. Lashley was just another big dominatant guy like all the rest until Vince ut him over as something special. Also if you look back at the matches themselves even though Vince isnt a wrestler he makes Lashley look extreamly powerful during the feud.

knslms

06-21-2008, 04:53 PM

The whole Vince Lashely thing was crap! This worked well in 97 because of HBK and Stonecold, and Vince did great back then aswell. But how many times can you do the exact same thing? It also worked better when the wrestler playing the heel role. Vince making one wrestler fight ten times in one night is more than overdoing it, tired, and old!

I have to say that Khali as WC was even worse

Cena wasn't a bad champion, Just a champion for to long. Far from the best champion it the last five years. If you want to see a good champion look no furthur than Edge! Theres your best champion in the last five years, and it makes me sick how little credit he gets.

Sparky

06-22-2008, 04:22 AM

I would have to say the great Khali. Putting the WHC title on The Great Khali Did Nothing for the WWE at all. his title rain Was useless, Every match was dull and boring no matter who the challenger was. and it drew no extra rating at all. There was so many other worthy ME'rs that could of held the belt after Edge got injured, That would of made more of a difference. Kane for example. if the people that used to watch wrestling found out that Kane was the ACTUAL World Heavywieght Champion found out they would probly tuned in to see if he had improved enough to be WHC. the great Khali instaed made the people that challenged him have if not the worst match in there life. Every champion that is HUGE Is worthless for an entertaining match. becouse your used to the "jobbed" match where it's easy. Then you start watching matches that last longer then five minute's.

TheOneBigWill

06-22-2008, 11:58 AM

Chris Jericho isnt that great IMO as the world Champion. He won it in a lame fashion for being the Undisputed Champion and beat the rock and Austin in one night. And that was his only title reign.

While I stand conflicted on the Chris Jericho - Undisputed Championship reign, the one thing I fully agree with is this.

His victory in it, was anything but unimpressive. He defeated The Rock then Steve Austin in back to back matches. Thats hardly lame. Infact, no other Superstar can say they've done that.

Furthermore, his reign took him into the Main Event of Wrestlemania, albeit to push Triple H. in the end, he was still apart of it.. over the likes of The Rock v. Hulk Hogan. So he must of been doing something right.

As far as "that was his only title reign" thats not technically true. He won the Championship from Triple H. in 2000, then lost it back in the same night.. and it was "erased" from the record books. But anyone who watched during that time still knows it happened. Then he won the W.C.W. Championship from The Rock at No Mercy, and while his reign didn't last but 3 weeks, or something like that.. it still happened.

His Undisputed Championship reign was his longest with a World Championship, and I personally tried my hardest to love the hell out of Chris Jericho during that time and that reign. Back then, he didn't suck near as much as he does now. But again, his reign was anything by lame.

Y 2 Jake

06-22-2008, 12:04 PM

Jericho was a world cahmpion? I missed that. Well I didn't. I just forgot about it because it was just so boring. It was pretty much Jericho's WWE career summed up in general. Terrible, boring reign.

Yeah nobody has defeated The Rock & Austin in one night before. But one man did, and I really struggle to remember it. As I'm sure a lot of other people do. Not only that. But he defeated The Rock at the Rumble, and Austin at No Way Out. Yet he still wasn't over as a champion should be. His main event match at Mania couldn't have drew less heat. Yeah people rected, it was Mania, and it shouldn't have gone on after the real main event. But if the match was any good that wouldn't have mattered. In the end Jericho blew it.

Or you can lay the blame on Stephanie McMahon & Triple H. But I'm more inclined to think it was Jericho's fault.

Joaquim Akaem

06-22-2008, 12:16 PM

Jericho was not too bad of a champion when he had it back then, he was nothing spectacular but it could have been a lot worse. When he came out with his two world titles, bragging about his victories and then he started wearing the Games old cape, it made me laugh, but at Wrestlemania his time was definatley up.

I think it was one of the worst decisions ever to have Triple H drop that title 4 weeks later to Hogan. I know the Hulkster was over with the fans, but it just didn't make sence, for Triple H to come back from torn quads, win the Rumble, win at 'Mania, then drop the title in a meaningless match, where there was no story or anything. After that he went back to fighting Jericho, and all the momemtun was lost.

Y 2 Jake

06-22-2008, 12:20 PM

I'm definitely thinking that Jericho could be the worst champion of all time. There is only one wrestler I can think of who feuded with The Rock and didn't benefit, and that was Billy Gunn.

There's one wrestler I can think of who got put over by The Rock & Austin twice in three months who didn't get over. That be Jericho. If that didn't make him into a worthy champion then you have to think that the guy just sin't as talented as people think.

Khali WHC Champ > Y2J Undisputed Chap. People will remember Khali's reign. For better or worse.

Joaquim Akaem

06-22-2008, 12:45 PM

I never liked Sid as champion. He was nothing great in either company, just a huge monster with a limited moveset. I can't think of a single thing he did, except break his leg trying to perform the simplest kick off of the second rope.

I suppose in a way he was the past generation version of Khali. Somebody who was made to look dominant despite posessing zero talent, but mainly used to put people over.
He beat Shawn Michaels after being his former bodyguard (sounds familiar). Then he bacame Takers number 6 at Wreslemania. Thats pretty much his wwe career.

Dagax

06-22-2008, 02:16 PM

Khali´s world title reign was plain AWFUL, someone said above that people will remember Khali´s reign instead of Jericho´s and I disagree. Jericho´s reign will be remembered just for the fact that he was the first undisputed champion and he also Main Evented ´Mania. Khali had like 2 matches for the title and those matches wheren´t Match of the Year candidates to say at least. Maybe Jerichós reign wasn´t the greatest of all time nor will rank in the high spots but Khali´s reign was forgettable and lame.

TheOneBigWill

06-22-2008, 03:57 PM

Khali´s world title reign was plain AWFUL, someone said above that people will remember Khali´s reign instead of Jericho´s and I disagree.

While I can't be for sure if he was being serious in saying The Great Khali's Championship reign will be remembered more.. the fact is, he made good points on why Chris Jericho's isn't remembered as well.

The W.W.F. (at the time) did everything they could to promote and push Chris Jericho. Do you know what people remember from that time? Steve Austin & The Rock both being involved in that 4 man tournament and losing.. but to whom.. The Rock getting screwed at the Royal Rumble.. but by whom.. Steve Austin getting assaulted by the returning n.W.o. so the current Champion could retain, but who was it.. and Triple H. winning the Undisputed Championship at Wrestlemania X8, finally putting Stephanie McMahon in her place..

Jericho wasn't mentioned in any of that.. and thats how people recall it. Jericho equals the first Undisputed Champion, forever will he be considered just that.. but what did he do AS the Undisputed Champion, thats the question that remains a mystery.

Jericho´s reign will be remembered just for the fact that he was the first undisputed champion

Exactly. Because he was the first. In a Championship division, that lasted for about 9 monthes.. then they split the titles up again into two.

he also Main Evented ´Mania.

So did Lawerence Taylor and Bam Bam Bigelow, whats your point?

Khali had like 2 matches for the title and those matches wheren´t Match of the Year candidates to say at least.

Chris Jericho v. Steve Austin from No Way Out was hardly MOTY quality. Furthermore, to be a rememberable Champion, you don't have to put on MOTY matches.. you just have to do something that stands out.

Khali's 7 ft. Hes complete shit. That stands out.

Maybe Jerichós reign wasn´t the greatest of all time nor will rank in the high spots but Khali´s reign was forgettable and lame.

If its so forgettable, then why are you even wasting the time to discuss it?

Youalreadyknow420

06-22-2008, 06:36 PM

the one big will is 100% right about y2j reign now back on to the topic I'll go with khali as whc but otherwise jeff hardy as any singles champ since his return. He suks and barely connects his moves. When he does its extremely sloppy. He is predictable and yes i think john cena is better. if you want to use the fact he get a huge reaction from the crowd so do batista but he suks as weii.

Y 2 Jake

06-23-2008, 08:28 PM

People will always remember Khali as champion. They might not remember his matches, but they'll remember him holding that belt above his head, and how annoyed they were when he got the belt. So by that alone he can't be the worst champion in WWE history.

On a side note. If he's so bad then how come he had so many good matches in 2007? Sure he was carried. But both Cena matches, the Unforgiven main event, and Finlay matches were all solid. I can think of plenty of top tier wrestlers who didn't have any quality PPV matches last year.

Davi323

06-24-2008, 12:23 AM

People will always remember Khali as champion. They might not remember his matches, but they'll remember him holding that belt above his head, and how annoyed they were when he got the belt. So by that alone he can't be the worst champion in WWE history.

If that is the standard we are going by, I am gonna change my opinion...back on page 1 I thought Vince McMahon was the worst champion in WWE history, but, since I remember him as champion, even for only 6 days, I have to discount him now...In that case, I have to go with Psycho Sid...considering I had not only completely forgotten that he won the title, but he did so twice, and I didn't remember either of them...I had to see his name listed under the Wikipedia entry for former WWE champions to tell he had ever won the belt...

tha dump5t4

06-24-2008, 02:54 PM

HHH is the worst, period.

The whole "game" persona, hypercompetitive, mega serious, look-like-I'm gonna pass a kidney stone hardass thing never ceases to suck the life out of the show.

His presence holds people back as much as Hogan ever did. Yeah, he'll lose a match, but he always comes back and makes the opponent look bad in addition to getting the title back.

Look at what he just did to Orton... Orton could not look any less pathetic of they TRIED to make him that way

IC25

06-24-2008, 03:26 PM

So many children in this thread who forget wrestling outside the scope of the last 5 years. How is it possible that nobody brought up The Big Show's first WWF Title Reign from November 1999 through January 3rd, 2000? Oh that's right - because THAT was the worst title reign EVER!

The only reason Show was even in the Title Match was because The Undertaker was out with injuries and Steve Austin had been "run over" by Rikishi. So, Show was inserted into a Triple Threat Match at Survivor Series vs The Rock and HHH. It was there he finally won the WWF Title, and only because Vince McMahon counted the pin on nemesis HHH. Nobody cared.

THEN, he started his defense of the title in a FEUD against THE BIG BOSSMAN. The ONLY creedence that feud had was Bossman calling Show a Big Nasty Bastard. The whole thing was crap, and it made Show look week. Armageddon 1999 is remembered for Miss Kitty flashing the crowd, Jericho making Chyna tap to the Walls of Jericho, and the Main Event - HHH vs Vince, no holds barred. NOBODY remembers the shit match that was Big Show vs Bossman, during which a month-long feud ended in THREE MINUTES AND ELEVEN SECONDS!!!

They didn't even wait until Royal Rumble to take the belt off of the Big Show. HHH won it back on Raw on January 3rd - not even 2 months after this meaningless title reign started.

twisterwrw929

06-24-2008, 10:56 PM

I can't believe how much hate there is on Khali in this thread, but I definitely do not consider him the worst champion of all time. There were so many injuries last year, that it pretty much came down to putting the title on Batista, AGAIN or giving it to Khali for a few months. I think giving it to Khali was a great decision, how many people thought that Khali would be a World Champion, even though he is huge and is a monster, I wouldn't have thought recently that he would have become a champion. No he isn't the quickest or whatever, but he is freaking huge, he is very believable as a champion, and as previously mentioned he is so over in India and he is pretty hated here in the states.

Does he put on the best matches, no, but I wouldn't exactly say he is horrible, he is pretty good at what he does and again look how big he is, how much can he be expected to do. But I do think in the matches I saw from him, he was pretty solid and by the end of his reign and once he was done chasing after the title, I became a fan, and I personally wouldn't mind if he got another title reign even if it's short, down the road.

DeadmanInc.

06-24-2008, 11:22 PM

I think putting the belt on Kane would have been much better than Khali. If I recall, Kane was in the title picture at the time so I don't see any reason to give the belt to someone as talentless as Khali over Kane. He may be getting stale but Kane will always be much more interesting than Khali.

My vote for worst reign goes to Khali.

I see that a lot of people consider Jericho's reign the worst. I somewhat agree. I wouldn't call it the worst. I'd call it "wasted potential". Jericho was the first ever undisputed champion, he beat The Rock and Stone Cold in the same night, and he got put over by them again in Royal Rumble and No Way Out yet no one seemed to care about him. The two biggest babyfaces of the company couldn't beat him yet he was never really over as a heel. Jericho's reign is often forgotten, which is sad considering just how significant this reign was. This reign had the potential to be the greatest championship reign ever but Jericho blew it.

themind

06-24-2008, 11:30 PM

Monkey Winchester

06-25-2008, 01:24 AM

HHH is the worst, period.

Really more Triple H bashing. I guess it never stops.

The whole "game" persona, hypercompetitive, mega serious, look-like-I'm gonna pass a kidney stone hardass thing never ceases to suck the life out of the show.

Really because I think it provides some pretty good promo work and great matches. It always makes the segment interesting. He holds the fans in the palm of his hand every time he speaks.

His presence holds people back as much as Hogan ever did. Yeah, he'll lose a match, but he always comes back and makes the opponent look bad in addition to getting the title back.

Every credible champion in history has done that. Whether it be Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Hulk Hogan, John Cena, or The Undertaker. The reason they make them look weak is so they can beat them. I've seen Triple H look weak a number of times. It isnt just Triple h that does that.

Look at what he just did to Orton... Orton could not look any less pathetic of they TRIED to make him that way

Orton is the cocky yet whiny heel. He makes himself look pathetic and then strikes when its time to gain the advantage. It's worked for centuries. Triple H doesnt do that to him, its just the way he plays his character.

Point being. Triple H was a good champion for the fact that you wanted to tune in just to see him get beat for the title. He made you want to see him get beat. Thats not only the characteristics of a good champion but also a good heel.

Zorlak

06-25-2008, 03:57 AM

Bob Backlund.

Made Owen Hart throw in the towel for Bret when he had him in the chickenwing for like 8 minutes, then the next night loses the WWF Title to Diesel in 8 seconds.

By far the worst title reign. Made Bret Hart look weak, nose-dived Backlund's push with the crazy-looking-at-my-hands gimmick, and put the belt on Kevin Nash who was carried through every one of his stand-out matches.

True, Backlund had one of the worse matches ive seen by losing in 8 seconds but I still find that match very funny.

I have to say that The Great Khali was the worse, he is just painful to watch in a fight, he makes matches two times longer than they are supposed to be. Its a good thing that he lost the belt pretty fast.

StoneC0ld

06-25-2008, 07:53 AM

simeon63

06-28-2008, 11:18 AM

My candidate for worst championship reign would probably be Yokozuna, at Wrestlemania 9. Defeated Bret Hart for the championship, then immediately challenged Hogan to a championship match when he came out to help Hart to the back.. Hogan proceeds to win the championship. I've heard of transitional champions, but this takes the cake... It looks to me like they just wanted to move the belt from Hart to Hogan without directly having a Hart vs. Hogan match...

Not a great argument, the samething happened to HHH, he beat Orton for the title then lost it to him on the same night. The Worst champion is Vince McMahon without a doubt, the man has no wrestling skills, and it was a lame story line too. Tito Santina comes to mind or should I say El Madadore, dumb gimmick and pathetic wrestler. I think making Rey Mysterio a heavy weight champ was stupid too, he is way to small to beat these bigger guys, its unbelievable when they allow him to go over guys like Bigshow, give us a break. Can I give an honorable mention to the Honky Tonk Man.

mrtuddy

06-30-2008, 01:44 PM

Gilberg... oh my god that guy was terrible. even if he was only light heavyweight champion... he was terrible. I don't think anyone can even compare to how bad this guy was.... except maybe Harvey Wippleman as Women's Champion.... but Gilberg is still worse

psykohurricane

06-30-2008, 02:58 PM

This is kind of a esay one because has much as i respect the guy for what he as done in the buisness, i still can stand this guy, so for me the worst champion in history is Shawn Michaels.

The first title run was a pretty good one and i can argue that the guy did pretty well with his first title reign so am not talking about this title run, am talking about is second title reign when he won it from Sid only to drop the belt back a couple of weeks later because he lost his smile. This was just a bad excuse and made the wwe look bad. Then there was is third title reign after the montreal screw job. Talk about a bad title reign, the guys steal the belt from Bret Hart then pretty much does do anything with it because he'S too injured to wrestle. Then if think couldn'T get worst, let'S talk about his world title reign that last only a month, not a bad month but he only defended the belt twice and the belt was pretty just a excuse to finished to feud between HHH and HBK. So if somebody deserve to be name the worst champion ever, it'S HBK.

LOC

07-01-2008, 11:21 AM

Hello everyone, just thought I'd pop in my thoughts on this topic since it is the first one I saw when I finally joined (been coming here for years, the usual lurker stuff).

If WCW isn't being counted in this (David Arquette totally wins hands down, dear god) and only WWE then I'd have to say the worst title run in history has to be when Vince won it back in 99. I mean, I know it was to further the storyline along, but jeez. He vacated the title the next RAW if I remember correctly though, so it wasn't that bad compared to David Arquette or even Khali (ugh). But when you have the guy who runs the company win the World Title, I dunno, just looked bad to me.

:)

nbda1997

07-02-2008, 08:07 AM

This would have been a good debate until The Great Khali won the World title. Now, there's no question at all. Khali is definitely the worst. To illustrate my point, lets start off by listing the top 3 things we all look for in a main event-calibur wrestler (not in any particular order):

1) Has passable mic skills in order to keep his feuds entertaining
2) Can elicit any reaction from the crowd that the promoters/writers desire
3) Can have entertaining matches with opponents of varying sizes/skill levels

Since Mr. Khali seems to have little to no command of the English language, he definitely fails requirement #1 (at least in the US/UK). Jeez - the guy was supposed to have 1 friggin' speaking line in "Get Smart", and they had to hire a voice-over guy to deliver even that!

The language barrier goes a long way in making him fail requirement #2 as well. However, there are performers that can manipulate the crowd through non-vocal means (Umaga is a good example IMHO). Everything Khali does appears so robotic and obviously planned out that there's little chance of him garnering any emotions from the crowd other than boredom.

As far as requirement #3 is concerned, Khali is a prime example of what good wrestlers have to deal with from time to time; he doesn't have a prayer at being versatile or flexible in his own right. Let's have him learn to sell a punch correctly (or even no-sell it in such a way where it's exciting rather than... nothing). Then we can start thinking about teaching him to wrestle.

Not to make a direct comparison, but as much as everyone loved Andre the Giant, he was never given a major title because he was a 'routine man'. He was a good special attraction, but that's where it ended. Khali is a routine man who can't even get his own routine right. He had no business ever holding any title let alone the World championship.

OverkillInc_Rage

07-02-2008, 12:54 PM

I would just like to personally thank Money Mania for sticking up for Triple H. He gets hated on for shit that is waaay out of his hands, and doesn't get credit for anything with the marks. This is the guy Ric Flair himself endorsed ok. If that's not a big enough nod to get than I don't know what your problem is. It's Ric Flair for god sake, if his approval doesn't count than who's does ??? Some nerd on his computer who thinks he knows the business??? Hardly. He is the best champion of his time including this last 5 years. Cena ranks up there at number 2 simply because he is so popular, but everywhere Cena lacks Triple H excells, and everywhere Cena excells Triple H already excells as well. He is The Game, and that's all there is to that.

As for worst champion ever, not Khali, not Sid, or Hornswoggle. I would have to go with Rey Mysterio. Why ??? Because, there is a reason it's called the [U]Heavyweight[U] Championship. That's because [U]Heavyweight[U] is a division, and only [U]Heavyweights[U] compete in that league. To me Rey Mysterio was completely unbelieveable and over rated. Is he skilled and talented and over with fans? yes. But not credible. And c'mon, getting beat by 3 guys 3 weeks in a row in non title matches??? What a disgrace. It was never believable. The most believable thing about his reign was when Khali totaled him on Smackdown, That's It.

vandam

07-02-2008, 06:25 PM

Well I have to go with the great David Arquette here. Khali is awful in every aspect of being a wrestler but at least he is a wrestler. I guess the Vince's (russo and mcmahon) are right there too,but Arquette is just a weiner through and through so he is my choice.

The Dungeon

07-03-2008, 03:55 PM

You can't honestly say that Lashley didn't benefit from being associated with Vince?

Well, where is Lashley now?????

HA! It's been a year and barely anyone remembers Khali's reign....total paper champion!

I'll be the first to admit that Vince's title win on SD! in 1999, was quite entertaining! But Vince didn't even drop the title...hmm...isn't that a time honoured tradition????

Just saying!

For me...the worst is definitely any reign Sid had! Both in WWF & WCW! His WWF reigns failed IMO, because he was beating guys a million times more talented and deserving than he was to win those belts! His WCW reign was merely because they thought they had nobody else to carry the company!

The guy is one of the very few to fail as both a WWF & WCW champion!

Mysterio's title reign was mainly the company's fault...not his! He could've been signficantly, a great underdog champ! But it wasn't booked that way!

GW Emperor

07-04-2008, 10:05 AM

Worst WWE Champion: Vince McMahon

Reason being is simply because Vince is not a wrestler

Worst World Heavyweight Champion: Rey Mysterio

I, like many, am a big fan of Rey and you would have to be insane to say that this guy is not a great wrestler, however Rey is not a Heavyweight and therefore unfortunately has to be classed as the worst world heavyweight champion.

Worst Intercontinental Champion: Carlito or Santino Marella

Reason being is because both of these individuals look stupid, act stupid, are boring to watch and can barely wrestle. Santino also won the title on his first appearance which was a ridicuolus decision.

Worst United States Champion: Carlito

Please see worst intercontinental champion for reason.

Worst WWE Tag Team Champions: The Miz and John Morrison

Reason being is mainly because of The Miz. He cannot wrestle, is mega annoying, doesnt look like a wrestler and he was a reality TV star.

Worst World Tag Team Champions: The Spirit Squad

Reason being is because they looked like a bunch of high school kids and image wise were a joke compared to the rest of the WWE roster.

Worst WWE Crusierweight Champion: Hornswaggle

Reason being is because he is a leprechaun and his ring name is just stupid.

Worst WWE Women's Champion: Stephanie McMahon

Again another individual who is not a wrestler. She is also a bitch both in real life and when in character.

Worst ECW Champion: Vince McMahon

He is not a wrestler.

Sparky

07-04-2008, 10:27 AM

Worst WWE Champion: Vince McMahon

Reason being is simply because Vince is not a wrestler I agree with you for the fact that His title run was worth it but just becouse he isnt a wrestler doesnt mean anything.

Worst World Heavyweight Champion: Rey Mysterio

I, like many, am a big fan of Rey and you would have to be insane to say that this guy is not a great wrestler, however Rey is not a Heavyweight and therefore unfortunately has to be classed as the worst world heavyweight champion. I quite liked Rey as champion it was a classic david vs goliath story and it did quite alot for smackdown.

Worst Intercontinental Champion: Carlito or Santino Marella

Reason being is because both of these individuals look stupid, act stupid, are boring to watch and can barely wrestle. Santino also won the title on his first appearance which was a ridicuolus decision. They are both good wrestler's and great entertainer's. Santino's title run was a good way to come into the WWE so that title run wasn't worthless.

Worst WWE Tag Team Champions: The Miz and John Morrison

Reason being is mainly because of The Miz. He cannot wrestle, is mega annoying, doesnt look like a wrestler and he was a reality tv star. What would you prefer? Hornswoggle and finlay? Just becouse the Miz was a reality tv star doesnt mean he makes a good champion.
Worst World Tag Team Champions: The Spirit Squad

Reason being is because they looked like a bunch of high school kids and image wise were a joke compared to the rest of the WWE roster. Even though the matches was dull and boring I think they made good heel champion's they held the belt so long becouse of the number's game.

Worst WWE Crusierweight Champion: Hornswaggle

Reason being is because he is a leprechaun and his ring name is just stupid.I agree with what you say here but not the reason, :headscratch: You have a problem tht he is a midget? and becouse of his name?

Worst WWE Women's Champion: Stephanie McMahon

Again another individual who is not a wrestler. She is also a bitch both in real life and when in character.
again not a reason why she was the worst person to hold the belt. I am going to assume you have met her as that is the only way you could know if she is a bitch in real life. but maybe she didnt like you?. And she was a heel so if She was a bitch in character she was doing a good job.

Worst ECW Champion: Vince McMahon

He is not a wrestler. I think having him hold the title was a good move and entertaining. He was the boss and with that he could enlist the help of other's, to help him win. And for Vince is the owner of the WWE Having him hold the title just to get someone over just goes to show what he is willing to do for the fans.

TheGreatSPAMbino

07-04-2008, 08:29 PM

In the modern era the worst wrold champion from a kayfabe standpoint was rey mysterio. Every week he was champion he was squashed in a non-title match by some giant hack. The Worst champion from a buisness standpoint in my opinion was chris benoit, he had the charisma of a plastic plant and when he carried the title ratings went down. By the way how can you call Hogan a bad champion when he built the wwe and is the biggest name in wrestling history, he may not of been a great "worker" in terms of what the smart marks like but it doesn't matter.

BarbwireBallz

07-05-2008, 02:33 AM

I would have to say Hulk Hogan yeah kids go crazy over him but he aint that great of a wrestler and keeping the belt on him for four years wasnt worth it there were alot of other great talented wrestlers around 2 that deserved a world title

GW Emperor

07-05-2008, 04:30 AM

A WWE wrestler holding the World Championship for 4 years. Do you reckon we will ever see something like ever happen again?
In this day and age no wrestler can hold it over a year as they will just become hated big time. John Cena and Triple H were probably the wrestlers in most recent times to have unbearibly long title reigns and as a result the fans were furious. John Cena got booed out of the building ever night and in 2003 Triple H was not only booed but also got pelted with garbage, most notably after the SummerSlam main event. Goldberg should really have won the title that night, especially after the spectacular performance he pulled off within that match.

John87

07-05-2008, 04:52 AM

I agree with GW Emperor but honestly, i could have seen Goldberg hold the title for at least two years or one more because fans loved him. they loved the idea of him coming out on Nitro every week and plowing his way through the roster in a matter of almost under to 2 minutes. its just, when he was champion, he carried it well and defended it every time you turned around and i think thats why a lot of fans tuned into Nitro around the time Goldberg got there and plowed his way to the World title.

Simply Ravishing

07-05-2008, 11:57 PM

Ill say Batista. This day and age, the last thing the WWE needs is someone on top built up by roids. The one move per 30seconds doesnt help either. Total garbage in the ring. I was going to say Vince, but Vince has actually had a couple quality matches in his past. Something Batista could never accomplish if being carried by Steamboat and Thesz himself in a triple threat.

Joepjr92

07-06-2008, 05:26 PM

Personally, i am a fan of the US title. IMO Big show was one of the worst US champs since the title came to WWE. Show won the belt from Eddie Guerrero at No Mercy 2003 and had basically one title defense (against Hardcore Holly) before he lost the title to Cena at WM XX (about 5 months later). Mr. Kennedy was another bad champion. Kennedy won the title against Finlay and Lashley in a three way and was then immediately thrown into a non-title feud with Undertaker. Kennedy lost the title to Benoit soon after. I don't think he had any other title defenses. I just don't understand why WWE gives some guys titles if they don't even defend them.

klunderbunker

07-07-2008, 05:32 PM

To me it is Vince as either ECW or WWF champion. There was no logic to putting the belt on him either time and it was just for the sake of his ego. It made a mockery of the belt to have a near senior citizen beat one of the best in the business for a major title, not to mention made the men he beat look even weaker. Vince was an amazing heel character as the evil owner, but he has rarely any business being in the ring. The occasional street fight is one thing, but to have him hold a title for 3 weeks like he did was awful. Him winning the WWF title though just made me feel bad about it. There was no reasoning for it, and it accomplished nothing, other than let Vince be able to say he was champion. By far the worst to me.

mcflyboy

07-08-2008, 01:56 PM

I just wanted to add about Vince being champion...true, it didn't make sense as he wasn't a wrestler, but it was more for the storyline than to ever think of him as a legitimate champion. No one will ever think that, and that wasn't the point of his title reign. And it made people want to tune in, wondering/hoping that he would lose the title.

OverkillInc_Rage

07-09-2008, 09:45 AM

Sparky

07-09-2008, 10:06 AM

I completely agree about Eddie Guerrero and as read earlier Chris Benoit. I was actually outraged when they walked away with the titles after WM. I thought neither of them were world title caliber, and that it was a complete mistake. World title Calibre? would you care to Explain. As we have seen now, it was. Just as stated earlier, Benoit had absolutely no character or charisma, He didnt Have Charisma, He is one of the best Wrestlers in the past. now we know he was also a fuckin' psycho, So the reason he is the worst champion is becouse of something he did a couple of years afterwards? that isnt a reason why he is the worst. and I thought he lacked the right look as well, Would you mind telling me what the "look" is? When one goes over Kurt Angle and the other over Triple H, that's a travesty. Who else would they go over two Jobbers? I know I am all hung up with champions being big, but there is a reason for that, it's because heavyweights are supposed to be big.Unlike the Crusierwieght Championship there is no Weight restrictions. There has been one and only one exception to me for this rule and that is Kurt Angle, the only reason so, is because he is just so damn good it doesn't matter. He is strong enough to go head to head with anyone and more skilled than well....basically everybody. So the reason Kurt is accaptable is becouse he is your favourite? It wasn't until John Cena got the undisputed and changed it, and then Randy Orton getting the World Heavywieght that they started to gain back their value after those two had them.:headscratch: your joking here right? Randy orton putting credit into it? how long did he have it for?

FoleyIsGod

07-09-2008, 11:02 AM

Its not just the crowds reaction to the champion that matters. If the matches are good but Steph/Vince do not like the way things are, they cahnge it.

Cue Y2J moment back when he was the first undisputed champ. He had smoking hot matches with the Rock u ntil Triple H stuck his oversized nose in (apparently due to backstage tension ebtween the two) thus making Vince think oh we need a new champion.

Another worst champion would be Hulk Hogan the last time he held that belt. He was hot before he got the belt (nostalgia) but when he got the belt, it died off and he quickly lost it to Triple H (i think)

DeadmanInc.

07-09-2008, 12:12 PM

I completely agree about Eddie Guerrero and as read earlier Chris Benoit. I was actually outraged when they walked away with the titles after WM. I thought neither of them were world title caliber, and that it was a complete mistake. As we have seen now, it was. Just as stated earlier, Benoit had absolutely no character or charisma, now we know he was also a fuckin' psycho, and I thought he lacked the right look as well, I thought he was too small for it. As for Eddie, I hate to repeat it but, not world title material plain and simple. He wasn't that great on the mic, basically a walking stereotype, and also was naturally too small. I thought it was a disgrace to have him and Benoit as champions. When one goes over Kurt Angle and the other over Triple H, that's a travesty. I know I am all hung up with champions being big, but there is a reason for that, it's because heavyweights are supposed to be big. There has been one and only one exception to me for this rule and that is Kurt Angle, the only reason so, is because he is just so damn good it doesn't matter. He is strong enough to go head to head with anyone and more skilled than well....basically everybody.

WOW, I couldn't disagree more.

Chris Benoit may have lacked mic skills but you can't say he didn't have character. He was the Rabid Wolverine and his look made that believable. The toothless grin and incredible physique. How can you say Kurt Angle deserved to be champion if Benoit didn't? They're practically the same. Both are the best technical wrestlers to ever step foot in a WWE ring. Benoit may not have a gold medal like Angle but that doesn't mean he wasn't as good. They had similar movesets too and Kurt Angle was influenced a lot by Benoit, which is apparent since he used Benoit's triple German Suplexes.

Eddie was one of the most entertaining wrestlers ever and no he wasn't small. He may have been short but he was in great shape. His arms were huge! In WWE, it's the entertainment factor that determines whether you make it big or not. Eddie was just that: entertaining. He was great in the ring and his "Lie, Cheat, Steal" tactics were some of the funniest things ever.

You honestly think it's a travesty when someone goes over Triple H? It's a travesty when Triple H goes over much more talented superstars. He's at the point in his career where he should be like Shawn Michaels and putting over younger talent, not politicking his way into beating Ric Flairs record. Triple H has given us the same recycled garbage for the last 8 years. Benoit was a breath of fresh air to the World Heavyweight Title.

I don't think Sid was so bad but then again I like the big guys. I just find them more believable. Who wouldn't believe that Brock Lesnar could come out, totally dominate you, hit an F-5 and end you? Who wouldn't believe Kevin Nash could jackknife someone through the floor, or that the Undertaker could tombstone anybody straight to hell, and so on. It's just more believable and makes more sense. If it were different than you could have guys like Paul London and Brian Kendrick, or Colin Delaney, or maybe Funaki !!!!! Yep, I'd beleive they could beat Batista, or Cena, or Triple H, or Edge just about as much as I'd believe it was raining shit outside. I still stand by the fact I think Rey was the worst but Benoit and Eddie were huge discredits to the title. Funny how the titles lost value after those two had them. Brock Lesnar kept it believable, so did Angle and the titles meant something still when they had them. It wasn't until John Cena got the undisputed and changed it, and then Randy Orton getting the World Heavywieght that they started to gain back their value after those two had them.

With the exception of Undertaker and Lesnar, super heavyweights as champion are incredibly dull. You honestly think Kevin Nash was a better champion than Benoit and Eddie? Kevin Nash is worse than John Cena. I can write out an entire Kevin Nash match right now: elbows in the corner, knees in the corner, shoulder thrusts in the corner, sidewalk slam, Jackknife. How dull.

Paul London and Brian Kendrick are very talented. If they were build up as future main eventers, I would think they're believable champions. I'm only saying this because they gave Rey the belt. IMO, Paul London is more talented than Rey.

...RANDY ORTON putting credit on the World Title over Benoit? Really? Is that why he only held it for a month? Orton was only 25 at the time. He only became champion for two reasons: 1. Erase Lesnar's record and 2. One up Triple H's World Title number. You're honestly telling me veterans like Eddie and Benoit disgraced the title while Orton, who clearly wasn't ready for a world title, suddenly made it credible?

And you think John Cena made the title credible after turning it into a bling-bling toy? Nice.

Peasrock1234

07-09-2008, 01:53 PM

Monkey Winchester

07-10-2008, 09:21 PM

The Worst Has got to be John Cena He ONLY Knows 4 Moves Spin out of powerbomb, shoulder block, 5 Knuckle Shuffle, F-U He Sucks!! And Hornswoggle winning the CW title I think that was just a joke to the CW wrestlers And Chavo Winning the ECW Champion it wasnt the best or worst I mean its about time He gets a push Look at him now he is in Main event Staus

More John Cena hate. He is one of the best champions in the past decade. I mean my god. He had a year long title reign. Why you ask??? Because he can draw, he is wildely popular with the kiddies and women, and contrary to popular belief....he CAN wrestle. He may not know a ton of moves, but the moves he does know uses them well, gets them insanely over, and makes the match entertaining. John Cena has been one of the best champions ever. To say anything else is ludicrous.

the.ICON

07-10-2008, 11:15 PM

As I hate Cena more then the normal guy, he's a good champion and I'm not going to trash him. However I'm going to say that the worst champion is, Rey Mysterio Jr. He is a great wrestler, but world champion, I don't think so, && only reason he got the belt was of eddie's death, pretty bad way to become champion.

RBH

07-10-2008, 11:48 PM

The worst champion if you are referring to an overall champion is Honrsowggle for the pure sake that he did not even defend the belt. Then they retired the Cruiserweight Championship. I got a list of worst champions of each title so get ready.

Worst WWE Champ: JBL-yeah he is big now but at the time, it was a horrible decision. Come on, there was almost no buildup. He was a midcarder being given a title shot. There were plenty of others that I would have picked to go iver face Eddie Guerrero. There was Booker-t, who was already proven to be a good main event heel. There was Undertaker who was face at the time but in a tweener feud with Dudleys. Then, they could have waited till Summerslam to have Angle take the title. That would have made much more sense than what they actually did.

Worst World Champ: Rey Mysterio-the only reason Mysterio won the title was because he capitalized off of Eddie Guerrero's death. It was quite sad and he lost almost every non title match afterwards until Booker finally beat his ass at Great American Bash. Rey I hope never ever becomes champ again.

Worst Intercontinental Champ: Santino-he is awesome now but when he won the title, he barely won anything afterwards and kept getting squashed by Umanga. Santino better have a better title reign next time if he ever gets one.

Worst US Title reign: Big Show-the fat ass almost never defended his title until John Cena challeneged him at Mania. In fact, he went 4 straight Pay-perviews without defending it and only defended against jobbers.

Worst Hardcore Title Reign: Gerry Brisco-held the title for all of 3 seconds. Molly Holly alos held the title for about 3 seconds as well. This was when the belt was 24 hours a day.

Worst European Reign: Mark Henry, he sucked back then and he sucks now. He did not have that popular of a reign and I believe that is why his career never took off. Tie-Shane McMahon for being well...Shane McMahon.

Worst Women's Champ: Stephanie McMahon-if you guys thought Candice was bad, I hope you remember when Steph was champ. She defended her title a total of 2 times both against Lita and would not have lost the title if not for the Rock.

whezz37

07-11-2008, 07:37 AM

Hmmm I wouldnt say Hornswoggle was too bad, he was only there to kill the title itself and it definately worked. He did bring a good crowd reaction though and I remember laughing like a clown when he won the title.

Good call on Khali, he has the physical attributes to be a great champion, but the fact he only won the title due to an injury and couldn't even do Mic work or sell anything or move...well the list is endless. I think Mark Henry is a similar level to Khali, but at least he can do mic work, even if the quality is woeful.

Erik999

07-11-2008, 10:43 AM

You guys are forgetting Mr. McMahon as champion. He is the second worst wrestler of all time next to Khali. Mr. McMahon won a Royal Rumble, won the WWE Title, and the ECW Title, obviously the only reason he had those was because he is the owner and can do whatever he wants (EGO).

Mr Wrestlemania

07-11-2008, 01:01 PM

My pick for worst champ is Vince McMahon, mainly because he'd done it more than once! The WWF Title win was interesting, major heat. What I hate is that he won the Royal Rumble (1999?) and not so long ago was ECW Champ. His reign was terrible, regardless of how it helped the storyline run. I truly think Vince's reignS are much worse than Hornswoggle's. Plus IMO Vince can't even wrestle. Come to think of it, I would've liked to see Shane as IC Champ back in the day hahaha.

Mantard

07-11-2008, 03:00 PM

I'd have to say Khali. I consider Hornswoggle as more of a comedy act, not a wrestler. McMahon is the owner, and I don't think he really wrestles. Most matches I remember were No DQ rules ones where he just got stomped. Obviously, he has a few wins and had a few titles, but I consider him the boss, not a wrestler.

Khali is a *cough* wrestler *cough* that has played roster hopscotch and can, if he could talk, claim to be a former World Heavyweight Champion. The only time I didn't change the channel when Khali was on screen was during Million Dollar Mania, of all things! One of the most boring segments in ages, but Khali was kinda amusing when he screamed at (and most likely spit all over) the phone. One "promo" isn't worth putting up with such a horrible wrestler.

dizzle

07-12-2008, 04:13 AM

Mark Henry as ECW Champion is blashpemy. I know the title isn't equal to the WHC or WWE Championship, but who cares? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, it's Mark Henry. The guy has been in the business off and on for over a decade, and he still has zero wrestling ability. He "much like Khali" epitomizes bad wrestling. Mark Henry should never be the champion of ANYTHING...

shaunbaby

07-15-2008, 02:17 PM

I HATE SEMEN SPUNK.
whats your releasionship with your dad got to do with this thread?

its got to be the great khali, he only got the title because of an injury, and the fact he's 7ft some odd, he's just so clumsy im surprised he hasnt ended someones career.

48/7

07-16-2008, 07:58 PM

It's go to be Khali. No one can debate that. He drew NOTHING. In real life, he would completely destroy everyone.. But, in wrestling, he just bores everyone to death.

TheOneBigWill

07-16-2008, 09:12 PM

It's go to be Khali. No one can debate that. He drew NOTHING. In real life, he would completely destroy everyone.. But, in wrestling, he just bores everyone to death.

The Great Khali entertains me more than C.M. Punk. FACT!

Why? Because Khali might not have any wrestling skills, but the guy is 7'4(ish) and a Super Heavyweight. How many of those do you see wandering around? (Sure, Big Show, meh)

The fact is the Great Khali isn't the type of Champion that was suppose to entertain you with high-flying, shock and awe type moves. He's the type of guy that was meant to club you in the head with a meat hoof, and squash your brains like a grape. He's highly entertaining if you know what to look for.

Meanwhile, what does Punk do that entertains anyone? What? He doesn't do any type of drinking.. so he can't be viewed as a classic drunk like Steve Austin, the Sandman, or the A.P.A. He doesn't smoke.. so he isn't as popular as the Big Show was during that period in time in W.C.W., and he isn't as famous as the Sandman was in E.C.W. He doesn't do drugs.. so he won't get nearly as high as R.V.D., Sabu, or any other random number of Superstars.

Am I suppose to be entertained with the G.T.S.? Let me clue you in on something. Punk discovered that name, because he was asking what is the most often thing people do during his matches. There you go, little bit of opinionated information I just dropped on ya.

Final fact of the day, regarding this. The Great Khali is world class famous in India. C.M. Punk is indy sized famous. India is by leaps and bounds bigger than the Indies.. ie. Khali is better than Punk. There you have it.

DeadmanInc.

07-16-2008, 10:27 PM

Just because Khali is different doesn't make him entertaining. Khali may be huge in India but that doesn't change the fact that no one wants to see him wrestle in North America, which is where a large number of WWE's audience is. I don't see the point of having Khali when the Big Show does everything he does plus more. If you want a non-English speaking monster, Umaga is a million times better than Khali.

I agree, Punk is bland right now but he can be much better if WWE let him. I'm not an ROH fan or anything but I have seen heel Punk there, he would make one damn good heel. The straight edge thing hasn't been done in WWE before. If creative let him utilize it, he could definitely be a main event player.

DC24

07-17-2008, 01:43 AM

For me it has to be Khali; watching him in the ring is like watching paint dry on the wall. People complain about Cena not doing alot moves but Khali is 10 times worse than he has the boot, chop and his finisher and thats it; I like him at first but I knew there was no reason for him to have a belt around his waist; I stop watching from from 02- to mid 06 so I didn't see the JBL fiasco so I won't comment on that.

HeartBreakk1dPr

07-28-2008, 01:01 PM

I'd have to say that the worst champion in WWE's history would have to be CM Punk. I kinda liked the guy prior to WWE putting the World Title on him, but come on, I think instead of helping his career, The World Title push has hurt it.

First of all, Look at the way he won it. He won it the same way Edge did. He took advantage of an already hurt opponent. How does that make him a credible champion. How does that make me say, he deserves the belt. Maybe if he would have had a hard fought match and picked up a clean victory, we could say he deserved it. But going the "Edge Route" killed CM Punk in my opinion. It worked for Edge because Edge is a heel and we'd expect something like that from him....NOT CM PUNK.

And his title reign is just a joke. i don't think its his time to be World Champion....there are others who deserve his push but haven't gotten it yet.....namely Carlito or Mr.Kennedy.

Lastly, I'd like to add that Hornswoggle was the second worst as the Cruiserweight champion. The little Bast**d killed off the Cruiserweight division.

Darkshot77

07-28-2008, 01:52 PM

What makes CM Punk a noncredible champion is the fact that he has ONE credible title match against JBL thats the only one where he got a clean pin on his oppoenent though it was froma distraction. What would help Punk is to say he is tired of being bullied arround turn heel and start gedting credible wins but untill then im sceptical of his title reign

Worst champion Michelle McCool. I love the girl but the fact remains that her title is fake and it dosent mean anything. What makes a bad champ the fact that no one cares.

Will I dont know if you were sarcastic or not, if you were I apologize I just wanna make a correction, but the real place where the name of the GTS came from was KENTA. KENTA a.k.a Kenta Kobayashi from Pro Wresting NOAH invented the move and named it. CM Punk copied it from him

The Earl

07-28-2008, 02:08 PM

You are talking about WWE history, which goes back further than just last year. Khali was bad as champ, but it only ran a little over a month..not really long enough to do any damage. Hornswaggle as cruiser champ was just to kill the title, but even he was nothing worse than the Hardcore title mess a few years back. I beleive such wrestling stalwarts such as Pat Patterson in drag, Gerald Brisco in drag, Coachman, and one of the Godfathers Ho's (Tomcat or Bobcat I beleive) once held that prestigous belt.

Santino was a bad choice for IC, but so was the Godfather,Billy Gunn, Rocky Maivia in early 97, Goldust in early 99.

As far as the worst world champion in a matter of losing money, it has to be hands down Kevin Nash. 2 or 3 months would not have been that bad. Like when Sid had the title. A month here or there is no big deal. But thanks to Kliq politics and whatever the hell McMahon was smoking in 95, Big Daddy Kool had a WHOLE FREAKING YEAR!

Why do you think Nitro was such a success when it was launched? Hulkamania was so watered down and played out by then, but it still outdrew Nash. How about that all time classic Diesel vs Mabel Summerslam Main Event?

Khali is much worse than Nash was, but it was only a short time. Nash's year was a whole lot worse than Khali's month. Plus WWE is split branded now so it;s not like Khali was carrying the company banner by himself.

Worst champion ever--Diesel.

HeartBreakk1dPr

07-28-2008, 03:56 PM

The Earl, I'd like to add my two cents to your comment. I totally agree that The Godfather and Rocky Maivia made terrible IC Champions. Santino Marella is one of my favorite characters in WWE right now, but him as the IC Champion...........as a face......was horrible..........but put the title on him now and he'll be the second coming of The Rock.............he's as funny as The Rock..........or pretty darn close to it.

But I'd have to disagree on the Billy Gunn addition. Billy Gunn is a great competitor. A great wrestler filLed with tons of personality and charisma......he made a suitable Intercontinental champion. his partner Road Dogg on the other hang.......nahhhhhhh.

And lastly Kevin Nash, was a great champion. You claim he didn't draw or bring in money? You must have not been paying attention to the pretty ladies who were enamored with him and plenty of male fans who all purchased his black gloves and his T-Shirts........he wasn't as big as Hulkamania, true........but WCW was beating out WWE during that time frame because quite frankly.......WCW was and always will be The BEST!!!!!!!!

Just-Dun Biased

07-29-2008, 06:39 AM

It depends what you mean by "worst" champion. If we go by ratings and buyrates, then Rey Mysterio and Eddie would be high on the list (as much as i love those guys, there reigns were flops). By actual workrate, Kahli would probably take it out.

The Earl

07-29-2008, 03:06 PM

Gunn should have gotten the IC reign in early 99 instead of James. The program was between him and Shamrock and Gunn was over with the fans. If he would have gotten the title then. I would have had no problem with it. However, He came back in late 2000 with a New Gimmick "The One Billy Gunn". His singles push was a good year and a half behind him by then. Nobody cared. That's why it bombed, and that's why Benoit beat him in less than 90 seconds.

And as far as Nash was concerned, WCW was crap for most of 1995. Hogan held the title for most of that year, and they didnt draw crap with Hulkamania. As bad as it was, Nash was even worse. Look at the facts. 1995 and 1996 were the worst two year run for the WWF. The product got better in 96, but that was after the year long Nash debaucle almost killed the company.

Quick Trivia question. What was the only year that a WWE champion has NOT headlined Wrestlemania? And who was that champion?

midgensa

07-29-2008, 03:20 PM

When I first went to respond to this I thought it would be easy to find a handful of terrible world champions, but it really is not. I looked through the list of WWE/WWF Champions and really could not find one that was terrible, even if I did disagree with the timing of a few.
I REALLY hate Bob Backlund defeating Bret Hart for the World Title in November of 1994 ... and don't really like Yokozuna's reigns, but none of them were all that bad in hindsight.
As far as the WWE's version of the World Heavyweight Championship, I really have no problems with any of the title holders (not even Khali or Rey Rey). So, I am forced to look a second tier titles and come up with the worst champion in WWE History.
There are some terrible INC Champions (The Mountie, Marc Mero and Road Dogg to name a few) but I would have to say the worst one is also the worst champion in WWE history.
Albert ... IC Champion from June 26, 2001 to July 23, 2001. He defeated frickin KANE for the title. This guy clearly should have never touched ANY gold in the WWE, much less a second tier title with as much history as this one.

Dead Kennedy

07-29-2008, 11:46 PM

Kid Kash's Cruiserweight Championship reign. There are only a couple of guys out there who can work an entertaining match with this guy, and none of them will likely ever appear in WWE. He just did nothing to me, as a performer. Just a generic guy who could do some high-flying. I was pissed when he won it and every episode of SmackDown, I'd hope his reign would come to an end. Kid Kash is a very mediocre performer who should have never made it in WWE or any other big promotion. Bad move there.

HeartBreakk1dPr

07-30-2008, 09:18 AM

midgensa

07-30-2008, 01:22 PM

Midgensa....The Mountie? For Real???? You've got to be kidding me. Jacques Rougeau is one of the greatest French Canadian wrestlers of all time. His brother Raymond as well. Granted "The Mountie" gimmick was a peice of crap, but I think Jacques deserved the intercontinental title. I think and I hope you meant to say his gimmick wasn't suited for the belt....but Jacques certainly was!!!!.............WE'RE ALL AMERICAN BOYS.....lol!!!!

I am a pretty big fan of Jacques, but no ... The Mountie should have NEVER held a belt. I just think his gimmick was a joke (and yes I did watch way back then) and that noone really took him seriously. I have a problem with the IC title ever going on someone who is not taken seriously, it hurts the credibility this belt should carry.

timostag

08-06-2008, 07:14 PM

DeadmanInc.

08-06-2008, 07:31 PM

KANE!!!!!

don't get me wrong Kane is proberbly my favourite wrestler, but I hate it whenever Kane goes to the ring the commentator always says he is a former wwe champ...He held the title for less than 24hours!!!and never even defended it

Kane is the most under-utilizied character in wwe and I don't understand why????:headscratch::headscratch:

It's because Glen Jacobs (Kane) is known for being willing to put others over instead of himself. He has a great backstage attitude.

But yeah, I agree. He is only a WWE champion on paper.

I'm going to add CM Punk on my list of worst reigns ever. I think this guy is loaded with talent and potential but WWE is doing a horrible job with his reign. The way he won the belt certainly doesn't help him establish himself as a credible champion. It only worked for Edge because his entire gimmick is based around opportunity.

Next, he barely has any clean title defenses. Aside from JBL, his other clean wins have been over Snitsky and Regal, and neither of them are main eventers. Snitsky is nothing more than a glorified jobber and Regal lost all momentum after just returning from a 60 day suspension. On top of all that, Punk has only main evented once since winning the belt.

CM Punk is exactly what JBL says he is: a transitional champion. He is just keeping the belt warm for whomever WWE decides to push next.

TheOneBigWill

08-07-2008, 11:30 AM

Once again, I could so easily just jump into C.M. Punk and without even having to go into detail people would just understand instantly. However, in Punk's actual defense (I know right, from me of all people) he's being made to look weak, intentionally I believe. Why, I don't know. But something tells me he'll start winning sooner or later then right when people start believing he could be Champion.. drop it.

Anyways.. Worst Champion.. of.. all.. time...

Psycho Sid: Easily hands down. I'm not even sure if I'm mentioned him yet in this thread or not, but I just ran through the list and he's a former two time Champion from 1996-1997 and he's only held the title collectively about two and a half monthes. What's worse is he was everything a transitional champion is meant to look like.

His first reign, he defeated Shawn Michaels via using a camera and setting up H.B.K. getting the Championship back in San Antonio, with a "cold". What odds. In between that, he defended against Bret Hart and only won because H.B.K. got involved. Making it look like he wasn't a worthy Champion.

When he lost the title, then Shawn "lost his smile" and released the belt without being pinned.. Bret Hart won a Fatal 4 Way match on p.p.v., then "lost" to Sid on the Raw after that p.p.v.. because of Steve Austin's blatant interference, setting up Sid's second reign.. only for him to drop the Championship to the Undertaker and within a month leave the company for a bit, only to return for another very short amount of time, wrestle a couple non-important matches, then head to W.C.W. where he had another failed run as World Heavyweight Champion.

Overall, Sid Vicious, or Psycho Sid, whatever you wish to call the man.. is simply not Heavyweight Championship material.

simpsons_fanatic742

08-07-2008, 12:08 PM

badboyman

08-07-2008, 01:54 PM

I have to say this triple h title reign right now. He doesnt truly deserve it, his in ring skills are not so good either is his moveset, he has exhausted every feud what there can be. He just doesnt lose anymore which is boring while. As carlito said everybody else is busting there ass. Pretty dire image with the title and he is barely at any shows due to the pregnancy. The feud with edge he was on smackdown for two weeks in what edge carried that feud. Its hard to look past bince mcmahon being is father law as the only reason he was given the title. So i think this current title reign for triple h is boring and could be perhaps the worst title reign ever

DiamondCutta22

08-13-2008, 02:54 AM

Hmmm...The Great Khali hands down no1 can argue this, he cant wrestle if his life depended on it i mean i rather watch Mae Young wrestle the Brooklyn Brawler than watch the Great Khali wrestle he cant even move his title reign was crap i mean he actually won the title in a over the top battle royal... who woulda thunk it i dont think anyone could name a half decent singles match with TGK in it let alone have em as the champ in main event matches...

DeadmanFan

08-13-2008, 09:22 PM

Well, a few come to mind.

1. Cena last year. I mean every time he came to the ring, whether it was to cut a promo or have a match, it was all totally predictable. True story: back around last July there was a triple threat match on Raw between Cena Umaga and Khali with the title on the line. I predicted Cena would shoulder block Umaga out of the ring and then do his stupid FU to Khali for the pin. I was wrong.

He clotheslined Umaga out of the ring and pinned Khali after an FU. Wow! What an exci...totally boring match. And his matches with Khali at Judgment Day and One Night Stand have got to be up for the Worst Match in the History of Professional Wrestling Award.

2. Khali. Jesus Christ, all things conspired against us last summer when both Taker and Edge got injured. They put the belt on this pile of crap who just had the crappiest feud ever with Cena like he actually deserved it. His reign absolutely sucked, hell even Botchtista is better.

3. Hornswoggle. If you're gonna end a championship, you could at least have it go out with grace. Why they put the strap on a midget that serves as nothing more than a horrid waste of time is beyond me.

And last, but not least. 4. Batista, Botchtista, Boretista. My god his gimmick was and is so stale it makes me want to bang my head against a goddamn wall. He is terrible on the mic, one of the worst ever. And when he was champion he barely had any matches on Smackdown. All he did was come out in his suit and cut a terrible attempt at a promo.

Interestingly, all four occurred in 2007. Which had to be one of the worst years in the history of wrestling. I believe WWE has taken our complaints to heart and have begun to change things this year, but they've still got a long way to go to earn the credibility they once had.

Showtime 24/7

08-13-2008, 09:57 PM

While he may not be the worst champion in history, I did not like the reign that Rey Mysterio had at all. I still think it was a mistake to give him the belt and that he only got it because of Eddie's death. He wasn't a believable champion in my eyes. There may have been worse champions in history, but Mysterio's reign was not one that I liked at all, sorry to the people who did though. No disrespect to the guy, but I don't think he is main event material, he has skills for sure, but the mid-card scene is more him.

Ok, Damnit I'm Board as hell so I'm just gonna snap and rant. I am sick of hearing people say that the only reason Rey got the belt was because of Eddie's death.
One, On Smackdown after Batista's fued with JBL was over. Teddy Long announced who would be the new number one contender and it sounded like he was gonna say Rey Mysterio, but his network assistant Carson Palmer took the mic and announced that the network had actually decided on Eddie. WWE likes to do this often, plant seeds of predictablity and purposfully put off matches. K, Back in end of 06, taker kept getting constantly screwed out of title matchs, by Kennedy and others, so we all knew they were putting it off till wrestlemania, Same with Lesner and Angle, same with triple H's return, batista triple h, etc. Yes, i agree Eddie's death helped cause it, but this shows WWE was thinking about it and if the crowds responce over the months was there I think they would've gone for it. Why? because he deserved it. That's what WWE does, they give world titles reigns to people who have earned through hardwork and all they've given. They did it for Mankind (3 small one2), Benoit (1 long one), Jericho (1 normal), JBL (1 long one), King Booker (1 normal) and even now Mark Henry. These guys were great performers, but lacked a least one skill, whether it be size, mic skill, great wrestling skill, etc. (Jericho is the exception, he just had a poor title/post title reign). But the got their titles because they deserved them through, hard work, brilliant matches, longitivity and loyalness, getting over with the crowd, puttimg over others, etc. And Mysterio is another example. There are reasons why they haven't gotten another one, and that's because they aren't exactly what WWE wants, (there idiots, they want Cena's, Batista's, son-in-laws and ppl who can push cash, but their getting better). But they proved their worth for WWE to grant them their title reigns and their long deserved moment in the sun. Rey's title reign wasn't good, of course not, he faced much larger ppl we all knew he couldn't beat, but damnit he earned it, *breath out

Okay, so about this thread, yea Khali's was awful, just awful. None of Big Shows reigns were that great either, of course WWE never realy gave him a good run with it. Oh, my pick is Chavo, god beaten in seconds. I think that was quicker than Lance Storm losing the Ic title to Edge at SummerSlam!!

BarryHorowitzfanclub

08-14-2008, 01:51 AM

Woah woah...Matt Hardy barely speaks english.

But yeah, any champion that cannot work the crowd is an awful idea. It doesn't matter how powerful or awe inspiring they are. Let's put it this way: Umaga will never be champion.

I honestly didn't like Y2J as a champion; and this is why: he doesn't need one. He needs something to claw after, not achieve. Kind of like RVD. It's not cool to see them win it all, it's more entertaining to see them try. They hand out belts like candy now, so it's hard to pick just one.

Currently, I think my stool makes a more entertaining champion than Mark Henry. If his match with MAtt Hardy is more than two minutes, it's a bad idea. He should squash some peolpe for a few months. Be a "real" champion. Be the giant, unstopable figure they portray him to be. Give it some time, let the suspense build. Make him seem immortal, and then, chop it down. But, they won't, and he's not that good. Any Champion that needs a spokesperson is not worth the title; unless they're the 8th Wonder of the World. Andre The Giant was believable. He could not be beaten, unless he wanted to be, and everyone knew it. They knew that if he wanted to break kayfabe, he could. He didn't have to lose anything. But he did what any super power must do; he lost to the next big thing, and at the right time on the right stage.

In closing, not everyone can be Flair, but The Great Khali is the worst combination to be champion.

Rebel2K8

09-03-2008, 07:00 PM

I still stick to my argument that John cena is and forever will be the worst World Champion in WWE/F's existence. Many of u may disagree but I'm not bothered. He sucks and that's that.

oneandonly

09-03-2008, 07:14 PM

Santino Marella is IMO the worst champion ever. The Intercontinental title used to be something important, but it might as well mean nothing now. Santino, who is nothing more than a comedic heel, was the worst choice to put the title on. He cannot wrestle at all. About 1 and a half months ago he was jobbing to whoever he faced, including women. Now they put the 3rd most important title in WWE's history.

Also on a side note, C.M Punk is also up there. It is almost the same thing as Santino with the fact that he was jobbing before he won the title.

Rebel2K8

09-03-2008, 07:19 PM

Ok, Damnit I'm Board as hell so I'm just gonna snap and rant. I am sick of hearing people say that the only reason Rey got the belt was because of Eddie's death.
One, On Smackdown after Batista's fued with JBL was over. Teddy Long announced who would be the new number one contender and it sounded like he was gonna say Rey Mysterio, but his network assistant Carson Palmer took the mic and announced that the network had actually decided on Eddie. WWE likes to do this often, plant seeds of predictablity and purposfully put off matches. K, Back in end of 06, taker kept getting constantly screwed out of title matchs, by Kennedy and others, so we all knew they were putting it off till wrestlemania, Same with Lesner and Angle, same with triple H's return, batista triple h, etc. Yes, i agree Eddie's death helped cause it, but this shows WWE was thinking about it and if the crowds responce over the months was there I think they would've gone for it. Why? because he deserved it. That's what WWE does, they give world titles reigns to people who have earned through hardwork and all they've given.

So let me get this straight. U firmly believe that WWE was thinking about putting Rey Mysterio against Batista for the World Title?!! That's ridiculous. Back then Batista was unstoppable and Rey would have been flattened and then ppl would complain that the pay-per-view sucked. Furthermore, no champion after Batista would be able to job to Rey and make it look realistic. Hence why they gave it to him in a triple threat match after Kurt Angle destroyed Orton and Mysterio and the midget picked up the scraps after Angle did all the work. Because let's face it. on Rey's best day Kurt Angle would wrestle circles around the midget in a one-oon-one match. Please! Rey sucked as champion. I don't care who thinks his hard work or whatever made him deserve it. The fact that after winning the title he got destroyed by practically every big guy on the roster and he needed to cheat to beat JBL to make the defeat look believable proved he didn't deserve it.

Sportsperson411

09-04-2008, 03:50 AM

I believe Hornswoggle was the worst Champion ever and most can agree with me on this. My main reasons were that like Santino on Raw, this was just a comedy act, and it did nothing but embarass a quality talented cruiserweight division, yeah it was dead at the time but still there was Jamie Noble, and many others who could have held that belt instead of Hornswoggle. He basically killed that title, no meaning in the title defenses and it was just mainly for the kids and comedy. Another reason it failed was because Hornswoggle also couldn't handle the talent of the Cruiserweight division making it way more unrealistic than Rey Mysterio's World title run, let's face it, Hornswoggle was the biggest joke of a champion in history of the WWE. It really proved nothing except the failed McMahon/Hornswoggle/Finlay storyline.

arsens09

09-04-2008, 03:11 PM

Slyfox696

09-04-2008, 04:09 PM

Worst Champion in history...Great Khali.

Not much more to say other than, he is the definition of a transitional champion. Winning the title only because he's a 7 foot 5 heel.

In terms of booking...Rey Mysterio's title run was insulting, we'll see if they can give him another shot on Raw.Actually, if you could say more, I'd certainly appreciate it. Probably the other mods as well.

What was wrong with the Great Khali? He is a massive beast of a man, makes any match he's in seem like a big deal. The guys hand is bigger than your head, and even if he's not your traditionally 5 star wrestler, that doesn't mean he's not interesting or can't play a good role.

I can think of several others who were worse. And I'll do so at a later time. But, I don't see how you can say Khali was the worst.

arsens09

09-04-2008, 04:25 PM

Actually, if you could say more, I'd certainly appreciate it. Probably the other mods as well.

What was wrong with the Great Khali? He is a massive beast of a man, makes any match he's in seem like a big deal. The guys hand is bigger than your head, and even if he's not your traditionally 5 star wrestler, that doesn't mean he's not interesting or can't play a good role.

I can think of several others who were worse. And I'll do so at a later time. But, I don't see how you can say Khali was the worst.

1. A massive beast of a man doesnt make you a worthy champion
2. He does not make matches he's in seem like a big deal. Nobody cares about his matches..."YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" is evidence enough of what people think of him.
3. The guy's hand being bigger than my head means nothing. My teeth are bigger than his...big deal.
4. He can't wrestle, deliver a promo and every match he's had is the same.

I await your response. You provided nothing of substance.

shafe_41

09-04-2008, 10:32 PM

I would also have to go with The Great Khali. Just because you're 10 ft. 15 inches tall doesn't mean you can dominate a title scene. Mark Henry could move circles around him. Bastian Booger could run circles around Khali. If he could actually move, it might be a liiiiiiittle different but probably not. His 8 moves make for a good nap time for all fans in attendance anytime he's in the squared circle. He brings that chop down with the force of feathers falling out of a pillow. Has he ever done a move bouncing off the ropes? He's just awful in everything he's in. Vince needs to learn that even though he thinks these giant people make for good product, Khali isn't somebody he'd make one penny off of. How many times have you purchased a ppv cause Khali was in it? How many Khali action figures and t-shirts do you own? I know he's big in India where he's from, but all the stuff with his face on over there is probably not licensed by WWE and Vince is making nothing from this big moron. I'm sure he's a great guy IRL, but he just needs to exit the wrestling business because it's not for him, and nobody likes him in it.

TheOneBigWill

09-05-2008, 02:44 AM

1. A massive beast of a man doesnt make you a worthy champion

Try telling that to guy's like Sid Vicious, Yokozuna, The Undertaker, Ultimate Warrior, Big Show, and others.

Being a massive beast might not make you a worthy Champion, but it's part of what MAKES you a Champion. At least half of the guys I mentioned wouldn't of been given title runs if it wasn't for their "look" alone.

2. He does not make matches he's in seem like a big deal. Nobody cares about his matches..."YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" is evidence enough of what people think of him.

People not being willing to understand the Great Khali isn't Kurt Angle, doesn't mean Khali isn't a big deal. I think most fans seem to forget that, yourself included.

Khali isn't meant to be the type of wrestler that goes out for 20-30 minutes and put on a clinic of chain-wrestling moves, then call it a night. He's the type of monster, that's designed to go out, work a 5-15 minutes match, and simply punch, kick, chop, choke, big boot, and chokeslam his way to a dominating match.

He's there for one reason.. to look powerful and disasterous. He's accomplished that. And his matches ARE actually a big deal, because even with the "You can't wrestle" chants.. the fact remains, anytime he's given a title shot.. more than one person in this world who watches, is believing he could legit. win that thing because of how 'massive and monsterous' he is.

When Khali squashed the Undertaker, it instantly made people take notice. When Khali won the World Heavyweight Championship, and then started defeating the other Heavyweights on the show, that made people take notice. So clearly, while not all, SOME are definately interested in what he can do.

3. The guy's hand being bigger than my head means nothing. My teeth are bigger than his...big deal.

Your teeth aren't that impressive. Everyone has teeth. But not everyone has hands bigger than your head. And it most certainly DOES mean something. For Khali, it means a lot.

It means he doesn't have to chain wrestle a person for half an hour, but instead just has to get ahold of their head, regardless how quick into that match.. and start squeezing until he's won.

4. He can't wrestle, deliver a promo and every match he's had is the same.

A.) I've went all over this reply about why he doesn't need to be the "Kurt Angle" of wrestling. He isn't built that way, and he isn't required to be that way.

B.) He has a manager to cut his promos for him. Chris Benoit couldn't cut a promo worth a crap. Brock Lesnar couldn't cut a promo worth a crap. Bobby Lashley couldn't.

All Khali has to do, is stand there and not say a word.. it gets the point across.. quickly.

C.) Who in today's wrestling has a match that isn't similar to the last one they had? John Cena's matches are always the same. Batista, C.M. Punk, Triple H., Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle, etc, etc, etc. All of them have the same moves, do them in roughly the same order, and finish each of their victories in the same fashion.. so you can't say Khali is bad for this, without saying he's exactly like everyone else.

I await your response. You provided nothing of substance.

I'm somewhat interested to see if he'll reply to you too. I know what I said it enough substance to make a case for why Khali is good. But I know Sly will take anything I said and make it look like a cakewalk in ripping your post about too.

Slyfox696

09-05-2008, 05:17 PM

1. A massive beast of a man doesnt make you a worthy championIt doesn't? Let's break this down for a moment.

What makes a worthy champion? Someone you can look at and say "Yeah, he's the best. It takes something special to beat him". Beating a man 7'5" and 500 pounds, built like a tank, takes something special. It does make him a worthy champion, because if you have Khali walk up to anyone in the street, and tell them no one kicks ass better than Khali, I guarantee you there's not one average person who would dare refute it.

The fact the man is a massive beast of a man is VERY important for him being seen as a worthy champion.

2. He does not make matches he's in seem like a big deal. Nobody cares about his matches..."YOU CAN'T WRESTLE" is evidence enough of what people think of him.Maybe not to you. That's fine. But I guarantee you that, to the majority of the "casual" audience, they look at the Great Khali and say "Holy hell...how in the world will Triple H ever be able to get him off his feet, much less keep him down for a count of 3?". He DOES make his matches a big deal. It's just a shame his body is breaking down, because if he was completely healthy, he would be a very key figure for the WWE for years to come.

3. The guy's hand being bigger than my head means nothing. My teeth are bigger than his...big deal.It means he's a massive beast of a man...which we've already discussed.
4. He can't wrestle, deliver a promo and every match he's had is the same.He can't wrestle? What the hell did I watch him do at Summerslam this year? Play tiddlywinks?

That's the stupidest statement any wrestling fan can make. "He can't wrestle". What the fuck is he doing then?

As far as delivering promos...uhh, yeah? That's kind of the point. You don't have a monster and make him lovable. Don't you know anything about playing a character? Him speaking in a foreign tongue only adds to the mystique around the monster.
I would also have to go with The Great Khali. Just because you're 10 ft. 15 inches tall doesn't mean you can dominate a title scene. Mark Henry could move circles around him. Bastian Booger could run circles around Khali. If he could actually move, it might be a liiiiiiittle different but probably not. Yes, because running is what makes a good wrestler. :rolleyes:

His 8 moves make for a good nap time for all fans in attendance anytime he's in the squared circle.Good point...except that it's completely wrong. I've been to several shows where Khali worked a match. And everyone watched and was into it. No, not on the level of a John Cena match, but in the "holy hell, he's huge" sense.

He brings that chop down with the force of feathers falling out of a pillow. As opposed to all the other wrestlers in the WWE who stiff the hell out of each other every night. :rolleyes:

Has he ever done a move bouncing off the ropes? Has Hulk Hogan ever jumped off the top turnbuckle? Does anyone give a fuck?

Vince needs to learn that even though he thinks these giant people make for good product, Khali isn't somebody he'd make one penny off of. AAAHAHAHAHA

So, now you're telling Vince McMahon how to run a wrestling business? Amazing.

TheOneBigWill

09-09-2008, 02:52 PM

I have waited for this day, for a couple monthes now. I can honestly and boldly say, without any confusion anymore..

C.M. Punk: The guy won the Championship by cashing in the Money in the Bank case. Which has been done before and it's lead to mild to great success. Edge's first cash-in went 3 weeks. R.V.D.'s lead to roughly a month, if not right under. Edge's 2nd would've lead almost a year, but due to injuries he had to be stripped of it in roughly 2-3 monthes of winning.

Punk is roughly the longest reigning Champion out of the M.I.T.B. winners, going a strong two monthes. However, that doesn't make him a worthy or decent Champion. In those two monthes, he defeated and retained his Championship a grand total of 3 times. J.B.L. was the person he retained against all 3 times. (He didn't win against Batista, the match(es) were thrown out, but he did retain I suppose)

All in all, Punk ended up losing or competing in matches that in the end were basically just "ended" without a winner, more times than he won matches during this reign. That makes Punk one of, if not 'the' single worst Champion in company history.. ever.

A lot of people jump on Khali because the guy doesn't chain wrestle, or barely wrestle at all.. but the one thing Khali did, that Punk couldn't find a pattern of doing, was continue winning his matches. On top of all of that, Punk didn't have a SINGLE Main Event match on a Pay per view.. and the one time he was given the spot, is the same match he was pulled from and lost the title in.

Now Punk has the opportunity to win back his Championship, and I'll reserve my judgment on his assumed '2nd' title reign until it happens. But one thing is for sure, his first reign.. should by all rights go down in history as the worst Championship reign, and Champion.. EVER!

Y 2 Jake

09-13-2008, 03:28 AM

Punk not winning matches by DQ is hardly his fault though Will. It's not like he'd have any say in the outcome. He was a mid carder that was given a world title. I doubt very much his backstage status was elevated enough for him to get outcomes changed.

And like you said, he was facing JBL. So maybe somebody didn't want his title reign to get off the ground. Who's got a good match out of JBL since he returned to action? Punk go ok matches. But other than the Finlay match at Mania, that's about it. The Cena matches were shit, and Cena usually rises to the occasion.

It's not like Punk was given the Rock & Austin to work with and failed. He was given JBL, Snitzky, Kane and Batista. The non title matches he had with Jericho and a few others were good. And Batista is considerably bigger than him and isn't known for having great matches with everybody. In fact you can limit the good one-on-one Batista matches to Edge, Undertaker & maybe a few others. So Punk having an average match with him not one, but twice was actually a success.

New Age Outlaw

09-13-2008, 04:40 PM

Easily C.M. Punk. No charisma, lousy mic skills, and only average workrate. Just a total bore. Khali at least has awe inspiring size and the 1-billion plus potential fans in India. Punk had and still has nothing but a stupid Pepsi tattoo. A total failure as World Heavyweight Champion.

Mattyboy

09-14-2008, 11:59 AM

Well im going to agree with Diesels reign. I like BGC but that was a bad year. Ill second Backlund aswell.

Im glad Big Shows first title run was mentioned, i remember that ppv, and the fans just werent into it, and Show and Bossman [rip] tried bless em.

Goldbergs month long title reign. Now, was that because he didnt draw [seemed very over with the live crowd] or because the strap belonged to HHH during this time. If thats the case then HHH was WWEs biggest draw in the mid 00s and thats why he had so many title reigns-that the way it works.

Apparently Carlito was IC champ. If so i barely recall it.

Trance Metaphor

09-14-2008, 12:23 PM

Kane and Vince McMahon. Kane barely even went over Stone Cold Steve Austin that first blood match. First, he had the advantage of wearing a mask and then second, Austin was still beating the crap out of him all throughout the match. It was a lousy fluke win that didn't make Kane look threatening. Then, to make matters worse, he lost the title the next night on RAW. Wow. Talk about totally burying a supposed monster in the making. That was the worst WWE title reign ever and goes down in books as a joke.

Vince McMahon winning the title off of Triple H after Stone Cold giving him a stunner was also laughable. McMahon of course forfeits the title, thus making him nothing less of an egomaniac who also happened to give his offspring titles. I mean, what was that? He's known as a 1-Time WWE Champion, yet what worth did he give? It didn't do anything. Instead of giving a chance to the abundant amount of stars that deserved a title reign in the late 80s and early 90s, here was Vince McMahon securing a title win for himself.

I know these were just based on storyline purposes, but they still didn't make the characters/wrestlers any better.

I could go on with all the 1-Month reigning Champions, but that list is too extensive. All the Hardcore Champions are technically the worst of the worst Champions lol.

A-Lusion

09-14-2008, 05:24 PM

JBL

Wow. Talk about out of the blue. Bradshaw from the A.P.A was the WWE Champion. That was a dumb move on Vince McMahons part. I know him and JBL are good friends but JBL was very boring and un-entertaining. I mean to think that guys like Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Undertaker and Booker T took the backseat to this guy for almost a year. And because of his reign in 04, his lifeless body is taking up as much time on RAW as it does.

JBL is smash mouth in your face wrestler and there's nothing worng with that, I'm a big fan of the smash mouth style but there was no need for him to be WWE Champion for as long as he was.

TheOneBigWill

09-15-2008, 01:38 PM

Well im going to agree with Diesels reign. I like BGC but that was a bad year.

Kevin Nash held the Championship for practically a year. Bad or not, that's impressive. Bret Hart could've easily took it from him at the Royal Rumble if he wasn't getting over in the beginning.

The problem with Nash's run as Champion wasn't Nash, as much as it was some of his opponent's. Sid Vicious wasn't really viewed (at that time) as anything more than a hired monster and nothing more than that for Ted DiBiase.

Nash also spent part of the year in Tag matches with Bam Bam Bigelow. While Bigelow is a good big man wrestler, feuding against Tatanka in Main Event's isn't what I'd consider anything good.

Nash's Summerslam feud was against Mabel, in which as good as Mabel may have been as a big man wrestler.. you simply can't put two of them together and expect anything other than a shit match. Nash couldn't do anything with Mabel, and vise-versa.

Nash's best matches were against people that could help him look his part. The British Bulldog, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels. They helped Nash look the part. (That part being, a 'Super Heavyweight')

Ill second Backlund aswell.

If you're refering to his role in 1994, when he defeated Bret Hart, then dropped the title to Diesel.. I'd hardly consider it a reign in general. He was just meant strictly to be a transitional Champion so they didn't have to have Kevin Nash defeat Bret Hart fairly.

They wanted to get Diesel over instantly, and having him absolutely DESTROY the guy who beat Bret Hart was basically like saying "Diesel could destroy Bret Hart, because he destroyed the guy who beat Hart".

Im glad Big Shows first title run was mentioned, i remember that ppv, and the fans just werent into it, and Show and Bossman [rip] tried bless em.

Wasn't the late 1999 run for Big Show meant because of his Father's real-life death though? Much like Backlund, I don't believe this reign was ever meant to be anything more than Big Show getting his name in the record books out of memory or respect for his Father. And the feud with Boss Man was a pure joke.

Goldbergs month long title reign. Now, was that because he didnt draw [seemed very over with the live crowd] or because the strap belonged to HHH during this time. If thats the case then HHH was WWEs biggest draw in the mid 00s and thats why he had so many title reigns-that the way it works.

While I'm definately inclined to agree 100% that Goldberg's reign was a flat-out joke and failure.. that's mainly because he's the one guy in Professional Wrestling I just can not stand.

But his run in the W.W.E. wasn't (to me) actually his fault. The one thing I'll give W.C.W. is they made him (Goldberg) their "Gawd". W.W.E. was never going to give Goldberg that type of "mega" push because it would've allowed a guy who just came in, to steam-roll ALL of their mainstay talent.

So what do you do if you're the W.W.E., and you bring in the top guy from the company you bought out? You show the world that your guy(s) are better than their's. That's one of the reasons why Triple H. went over Goldberg before Goldberg went over Triple H.

The other reason Goldberg's run (in my opinion) was a failure is because McMahon felt he could continue to match-up power against power. So he had Goldberg against Mark Henry, Kane and Batista. None of them had the right to be in the Main Event, or in a title picture with Goldberg.

So again, while I'll definately say Goldberg is a failure.. if I'm being brutually honest I just can't say his W.W.E. run was his fault.

Y 2 Jake

09-15-2008, 09:01 PM

Kevin Nash held the Championship for practically a year. Bad or not, that's impressive. Bret Hart could've easily took it from him at the Royal Rumble if he wasn't getting over in the beginning.

The problem with Nash's run as Champion wasn't Nash, as much as it was some of his opponent's. Sid Vicious wasn't really viewed (at that time) as anything more than a hired monster and nothing more than that for Ted DiBiase.

Nash also spent part of the year in Tag matches with Bam Bam Bigelow. While Bigelow is a good big man wrestler, feuding against Tatanka in Main Event's isn't what I'd consider anything good.

Nash's Summerslam feud was against Mabel, in which as good as Mabel may have been as a big man wrestler.. you simply can't put two of them together and expect anything other than a shit match. Nash couldn't do anything with Mabel, and vise-versa.

Nash's best matches were against people that could help him look his part. The British Bulldog, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels. They helped Nash look the part. (That part being, a 'Super Heavyweight')

Isn't Nash one of the lowest drawing champions of all time? Maybe it was like with JBL & McMahon wanted to prove people wrong so kept the title on him regardless.

They wanted to get Diesel over instantly, and having him absolutely DESTROY the guy who beat Bret Hart was basically like saying "Diesel could destroy Bret Hart, because he destroyed the guy who beat Hart".

Only Backlund didn't really beat him. He had him in a Chickenwing for about 30 minutes then Mother Of Hart threw in the towel.

Wasn't the late 1999 run for Big Show meant because of his Father's real-life death though? Much like Backlund, I don't believe this reign was ever meant to be anything more than Big Show getting his name in the record books out of memory or respect for his Father. And the feud with Boss Man was a pure joke.

His father had dided years before. It's because WWE had screwed the fans out of a match that would have got everyobody talking (HHH/Rock/Austin, how could it not?). They needed a surprise ending to the show.

Macca The WidowMaker

09-16-2008, 08:35 PM

Khali. Over two years later, and Vince still has yet to fire him. lol Khali's WHC run, along with his employment proves that no matter what their wrestling skills are (like, I don't know, bending your knees to take a HHH facebuster at SS 08) if their abnormally big, Vince can use them.

Adel_hamra

09-18-2008, 08:34 AM

i don't know much of the past since i started following the wwe since january this year, but i could say a couple of them

cm punk as WH c:i'll give him props for winning money in the bank and for beating jbl at the bash but still, his kind of title reign shouldn last more than a week since you don't have a background to try and win it...

santino: he's champion because beth phoenix pinned mickie james...'nuff said

the great khali: i haven't seen khali as a champion but i saw the triple threat match at unforgiven last year between him, batista and rey mysterio and i kept thinking, how the hell did he win a title

ChrisJerichoFanYTWOJAY

09-18-2008, 09:08 AM

I don't want to repeat people but its hard because everyone has some good point.

Great Khali - Umm to sum it up he held the damn belt upside down for gods sake. I mean come on. Don't disrespect something that means (or used to mean) a great deal to the business. The only reason they put the strap on him was because of the popularity he had going in india. Vince wanted to up the draw from that market and for that i give Vince a thumbs up. He did what he had to do to make money. If that meant he had to put the strap on a big goliath mound of mongoose poo named Khali than thats what he had to do.

dacia

09-22-2008, 04:53 AM

World Wrestling Entertainment has had its fair share of headlining champions from Hulk Hogan to Stone Cold Steve Austin to John Cena, but in between there have been some horrible wrestlers that got a chance at a world championship. the worst champions in WWE History.
Great Khali: :flair:This massive wrestler that stands over Seven Feet tall is impressive to look at, but as soon as the bell rings, the crowd is bored. This is because the Great Khali is a horrible wrestler with a limited move base and no charisma in the ring. He does not compare to other great ring giants like King Kong Bundy, Yokozuna, or The Undertaker. In 2007, they decided to give him the World Championship after Edge vacated it, and that was a horrible decision. Batista quickly won the title from him though, and that is good because if he had any longer, fans might have stopped watching WWE Smackdown.hyna: Chyna never won the World Championship, but she is the only female wrestler to ever win the Intercontinental Title. She was one of the biggest women wrestlers in WWE history but that does not mean she had what it takes to go against the other wrestlers.
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DACIA

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