Triple H = Ratings

[Esteban Ochocinco]

Another 3.0, that is all.

[FOTH 3:16]

I love this.McMahon has his money mania to gain ratings and he drops in ratings.haha.But I don't know if last nights ratings have anything to do with Triple H if that what your saying.

[midgensa]

I think Triple H draws ratings and at the gate fairly well, but he definitely is not top dog. The ratings are down as a whole for a lot of reasons, most of which cannot be pinned on any individual wrestlers.
I think HHH, Cena, Hardy, etc. have little to do with the ratings. The ratings are determined by the writers and what else is on.

[travis_touchdown]

A WWE Champion is selected based on their ability to generate fan interest. If a current champion was expected to draw but could not, then they can be considered a subpar champion. And I believe this is the idea presented in the post.

Triple H is not that great of draw and this is being demonstrated by the ratings.

[FOTH 3:16]

I have a feeling the ratings had to do with the terrible RAW presented.Vince's great rating's idea backfired.I love it.

[kurtisraw07]

Raw's matches were short, boring, and pointless. You had Vince showing what a dumbass he truely is by showing he isn't even capable of dialing a phone number. You had Triple H brown nosing Cena on commentary in a stomach churning fashion. The Night of Champions main event was being billed as the Best vs the Best. That is complete bullshit. Triple H is argueably the best on Raw, but Cena is far from it. They should've billed it as "The Best vs the only other option" as there is nobody else to be the number 1 contender other than Jeff Hardy. This just goes to show you that Vince is full of shit and seems to be becoming senile. How can a man who took wrestling national and global be producing such shit? It's simple, Hogan and Piper made wrestling a global phenomenon, not Vince. Vince was just structuring the shows. It wasn't him on the show drawing in viewers. Vince is an old stuck in his ways asswipe who is getting in the way of progress. Now I know that the person I'm about to mention is a horrible business man, but he is a creative genius. That man is Paul Heyman. If he was still with creative and was allowed to do what he does best, WWE would be doing a lot better in the ratings. Now some would say that there is no way of knowing that for sure. I certainly believe that they would be getting better ratings right now. Brian Gerwitz, Vince's top "yes-man" is part of the problem too. He won't make a show worth a shit. I just hope the USA network starts getting pissed off with the ratings and lights a fire under Steph, Gertwitz, and Vince's ass and we get a decent show with more quality feuds and quality wrestling matches. When it comes to Heyman, look at the ratings for ECW in it's first 6 months as a brand. They were very consistent with Smackdown's ratings. They got around 2.5s. Now about 2 years after Vince canned Heyman, look at ECW's ratings. They're lucky to get 1.0s. Man if WCW was still around, this shit wouldn't be happening. When it comes to Triple H, I don't think he hurts the ratings, but I also don't think he helps them a whole lot either. His 5 World Heavyweight Championship reigns brought in some pretty crappy numbers for sure. I think he's massively over as a face right now, but he's nowhere near being a ratings making monster face the likes of Stone Cold or The Rock. And regardless of what people say, Triple H is WWE Champion right now because he called his shot before the Royal Rumble. That's why he lost to Jeff Hardy. Sure Triple H hadn't been Champion in three years, but I still don't think it's right that a guy can become Champion just because he wants to be so he calls his shot. So Triple H does politic his way around the business.

[Skullz Crack'Em]

It doesn't matter who the champion is at this point, WWE has been stale for the last three years now and it is time for some big changes ALL AROUND. The ratings have been slowly declining for the longest time now, when Cena and Orton was champ the ratings were falling and when the most popular superstar on SmackDown, The Undertaker was World Champion, the ratings didn't increase at all. Blaming the ratings flop on one man is ridiculous, WWE has been stuck in the same pattern for three years now that we the fans know what to expect from the WWE, and more fans are starting to not give a damn anymore.

[Slyfox696]

The thing I think is funniest is that when Cena was drawing an average of 3.9 Raw rating, all people wanted to do was criticize him because ratings were "down". Nevermind they increased each year he was champion, ratings were "down" and "only" a 3.9.

Where are those same people now? Where's the criticism for Triple H's rating draw? Oh, it's in the thread starter's post...and then we have all the people who try to claim he's wrong.

Admit it. If Cena hadn't gotten hurt and had stayed as champion, ratings would still be in the 3.5-3.9 range. Which they haven't been since Cena left.

[RBH]

but you see Slyfox Cena was not the good thing or the problem...at the time there were some and I will say "some" good writing and other bad....the only good thing on last night's show was the Hi Lite reel which finally made this drawn out feud interesting. Ted Dibiase Jr was also interesting but then again no it wasnt....Cena actually has been one of the better performers lately and he did a couple of interesting things last night and his commentary was better. I just wished he didnt face JBL for the 3 millionth time and win for the 3 millionth time.

If they are gonna turn HHH heel then I would create a 3 month feud that would culminate in cena winning the title at Unforgiven and then losing it by Armageddon or Rumble to a mega heel who would defend it at Mania against Kennedy or Jeff Hardy.

[jmt225]

If Cena hadn't gotten hurt and had stayed as champion, ratings would still be in the 3.5-3.9 range.

I agree that Cena is by far the company's best draw, but if he hadn't got hurt and was still currently champion, who would he be feuding with? If the answer is someone like HHH or Orton, I think the ratings would still be a 3.0 right now because people are tired of seeing feuds we've already seen. That's the main problem, in my opinion.

But if Cena was still champ and had new, fresh faces to feud with, Raw's ratings definitely would be much better than what they currently are. Change Cena's name into HHH in my last sentence, and the ratings probably remain at 3.0. The dude was never a decent draw and is just boring as shit. His character has no depth and is so one dimensional, which brings zero excitement to the table and gives enough reason for people not to tune in whenever he's champ. Add in to the fact that everyone besides his die-hard fans (which there aren’t many of) discredits him for being married to Steph. Dude should not be champ, or even in the main event scene period, in my opinion. He should be in feuds like Michaels is currently in with Jericho.

[Danmen001]

Put the belt on Hardy, see what happens. That is all.

[malfoy]

agreed.

[Esteban Ochocinco]

Sly hit the nail on the head. All anyone wanted to do last year was bash Cena for ratings not being what they were in the attitude Era, but hell, they were close to 4.0s. People insisted on Triple H as champion is a better choice, when clearly it isn't.

The WWE lost a ton of momentum when Cena hit the shelf, and has subsequently been made to look weak and Hunter's bitch since his return. It's notTriple H's company, it's John Cena's company.

[Skullz Crack'Em]

Here are the cold hard facts:http://100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wwf/wwfraw.htm

People who say Triple H is not a draw take a look at the ratings to see for yourself. Look at January 2005-April 2005, this was the time that Triple H won the vacated World title and started a feud with Batista, the ratings are averaging 3.8, so he definitely did not kill the ratings then, which means he must be a draw. His on-going feud with Batista brought on many ratings in the 4's, that's pretty damn good if you ask me.

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

Here are the cold hard facts:http://100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wwf/wwfraw.htm

People who say Triple H is not a draw take a look at the ratings to see for yourself. Look at January 2005-April 2005, this was the time that Triple H won the vacated World title and started a feud with Batista, the ratings are averaging 3.8, so he definitely did not kill the ratings then, which means he must be a draw. His on-going feud with Batista brought on many ratings in the 4's, that's pretty damn good if you ask me.

this is 2008, not 2005 :thumbsup:

[image1986]

The reason the ratings didn't go down because batista became a break out star not because of triple h. The rivalry was relatively new so it cause people to watch. Triple h is not going to save the ratings. Whether people like orton or not his reign was fresh and the whole hbk storyline with him superkicking orton every raw was pretty funny. It wasn't a ratings monster but it brought up numbers. It showed that there was some creativity left in wwe. The main problem is the writing and storylines aren't exciting at and the brand isn't building any new stars. The only reason cena is over is because what other choice do you have really. Hbk don't want the title and there arent too many wrestlers on the roster ready to main event. Another thing why do cm punk still have the money in bank I don't even think anyone cares when he cashes it anymore

[motorcitymaniac]

This week, it was all about the MONAY... and how it totally ruined the ratings. Personally, I did not watch RAW because I knew that Vince would dominate the show and everything else would be shoved aside to focus on the giveaway. The draft is going to be huge in determining the ratings for a long time. WWE needs to step up.

[Papa Shango]

I assure you, that the reason the ratings were so low this week, is because
1) Anyone of the people who registered that DONT watch RAW, tuned in to see the code a the beginning and then tuned out.
2) Meanwhile, the fans who KNEW the show would suck, didn't bother to watch either, myself included, although I did tune in to see the main event. I do regret missing the Y2J/HBK segment, but other than that, the show was not worth watching, and it will continue to be that way as long as million-dollar mania is around, and Triple H is champ. He's not a terrible talent, but we've all seen him as champion over and over again, and it's boring. Even with Cena as champ, we get some interesting segments. Cena is so much better on the mic than Triple H. Plus Cena hasn't fueded with literally everyone on the roster. There's still Hardy, Batista, Undertaker, and Kennedy to fued with, and I wouldn't say no to another go-around with Y2J or Edge. And we never got what I felt was a satisfying conclusion to his fued with Orton. Hell, Cena doesn't even neccessarily have to be champ, I just use him because he's considered to be the top guy by most. Give Kennedy a chance with the belt, or even, I can't believe I'm about to say this, Jeff Hardy. He's way over with the crowd, and he's proven that he can put on good matches some of the time. He's always entertaining against Umaga, he had a good thing going with Orton, and he actually went out and had two good main event matches back-to-back weeks against Triple H and Cena. It's true that Jeff isn't nearly as dependable as Triple H, but at this point, WWE needs to move away from dependable, and try taking some risks.

[Y 2 Jake]

Man, Triple H sucks. Push Hardcore Holly.

[Papa Shango]

Poor Jake. He's really lost it at age 81.

[Alan Quartermaine]

Man, Triple H sucks. Push Hardcore Holly.

I'd watch Hardcore as the champ lol, who knows we might even see a 24/7 rule with the WWE title

[Slim Pickns]

Another 3.0, that is all.

Come one Shock, thats a solid three, solid man.

Triple H is the best wrestler on the roster today. Cena can only do five moves, plus he is gay.

[TM]

3.3, I didnt watch because of the main eventers, i watched to see any knew details about the TT division, seeing how many southerners won money, and to see how cool Carlito was this week. Give Carlito the belt

[PompsxChaos]

well RAW is back at a 3.3. it took them about 2 months! lol. hope it gets better!

[The Dungeon]

I thought the show was ok....

Ric Flair's return I guess was the hooplah of this week...but he just kind of appeared....like it didn't make a single bit of sense to me!