Is it the right time to bring a new stable together and what would the name be?

[slimmshady]

I mean, it's been a while since a dominating stable entered the ring. The last one was evolution. Now I think it is the right time to bring a new one together and push the younger talent amongst the elderly. Like how Triple H and Ric Flair brought up Batista and Randy Orton. It must be a heel stable as they have been the most successful and it's definitely got to be more than just two individuals in it. My question is who would be in the stable and what would the name be?

[Derf]

La Familia. We've already got a powerful stable on Smackdown/ECW. Edge is the main guy, Chavo is the up and comer, Bam is the powerhouse, and Ryder/Hawkings are the weasles, and I can see one of them becoming World Champ some day with the right singles push. Plus, they also have Vickie Guerrero, and she's a powerhouse as the GM, so I think the Faction your looking for already exists.

[IrishEnglishman24]

If it hadn't been for Regal's suspension, I think we'd have all the makings of a stable on RAW with the likes of Burchill and Katie teaming with regal and someone else, maybe the likes of either the Highlanders or Drew McIntyre & DH Smith (ok, I know, he's canadian, but daddy wasn't) to have a British thing going and call it the Empire or something like that. But I don't see it happening with Regal losing the GM slot and being suspended

[IC25]

Excellent thread idea. Here's what I would do.

1. The stable should be heel, since heel stables work best together, and face stables only work if there is a heel stable to balance them out.

2. The ultimate prototype for a heel stable is, of course, The Four Horsemen. Evolution copied the 4HM dynamic to a T, which is as follows:

a. The Cornerstone. (Flair, HHH)
b. The Backup (Tully, Orton)
c. The Muscle (Arn, Batista)
d. The Wild Card (Ole, Flair)
e. The Mouthpeice (Dillon, Flair)

The other dynamic on a successful stable is their differing places on the roster to start. It's silly for three main eventers to form a stable, because of the conflict. So there is a 2nd dynamic:

a. The Main Event (Flair, HHH)
b. The Mid-Carder (Tully, Orton)
c. The Tag-Team (Arn and Ole, Flair and Batista)
d. The Manager (Dillion, Flair)

Raw Stable - The New Generation

1. Randy Orton. Established heel champion, has shown leadership qualities but has never really "led" a team before. Similar to HHH, a guy who would do anything to keep his spot.

2. MVP. A fantastic mid-carder with talent on the microphone. Would play the Tully Blanchard role.

3. The Miz and John Morrison w/ Kozlov. Here is your young, brash tag team who also act as the dual assassins with new bodyguard, Vladimir Kozlov, who plays the muscle role.

4. Eric Bichoff. Bring him back to manage the stable and play the Dillon role, also reprising his nWo role. Estrada is too busy and doesn't fit the mold well.

[mcflyboy]

I have mixed feelings about stables. At least heel stables. First, once a stable is created, the top guy in the stable suddenly loses a lot of skill and no longer has the ability to beat top talent on his own, and has to rely on the flunkies to save the day by interfering. Typical with the way the matches go, it is hinted that the heel would have lost had it not been for the stable.

Similarly, matches become too predictable--especially when a belt is on the line. The heel starts by getting dominated, someone causes a distraction, allowing the heel to dominate for a while, then the face makes a comeback. Then rapid back and forth action and before the heel loses, we get some sort of interference.

On the other hand, stables are good in some ways...it becomes easier to hate whoever is the top dog in the stable. It also makes an eventual win over the heel more dramatic. You also inevitably get to the point where various members of a stable eventually turn on each other in some way, which creates an interesting feud and instant face status for someone.

So in general, I would say no stables, or at least no more than 1, mainly because they all follow the same general format and storyline. We have "la familia" for now, and I don't think we really need any more, and am actually looking forward to that one ending.

[D.N.D]

The dominating stables are usually heel so if a new stable was to come about I think it would be a new Corporation.

1. Randy Orton (leader) I think Randy could lay the role as the dominant heel champion who always has team do the dirty work for him.

2.Mr.Kennedy (mid carder) He could play the role that Orton use to lay back when he was in Evolution. He could hold the Intercontinental title and help Orton retain his title. He would be the young guy who is thefuture of the buisness.

3.Chris Harris (Enforcer) I think he would be able to play the muscle of the group and they could make it seem like he is a dominant beast like with Batista.

4.Eric Bishoff- I think they should bring him back so he could play the same role Vince did back when he was in the Corporation always trying to find a reason for Randy to retain his title.

5.Paul Birchill & Drew Mcintyre (Tag Team) They could become a tag team because they are both British and thet would have a friendship with Eric Bishoff and that would get them in the group. They could have Katie Lea as the manager.

That would be the RAW stable. Smackdown already has the La Familia which I hope ends soon.

[Gelgarin]

The problem I always have with stables involving lower card members is that the WWE has a serious tendency to job them out on mass to whoever the top face at the time is. (Like how Ryder & Hawkings keep getting totally owned by the Undertaker) And since promoting new talent is one of the chief functions of a stable, I question it as a valid tool in today’s booking environment. (Let’s be honest here; right now La Familia is only getting Edge and Vickie over).

Conversely, stables consisting of multiple main eventers which aren’t the NOW tent to always come off as looking a bit week. You’ve got a collection of heels who’ve been doing perfectly well for themselves, and suddenly have to band together to protect one another from John Cena. One theme which has been very prevalent in the WWE as of late is that they don’t want heels running the show; and any coalition of main eventers runs a serious risk of actually making the members involved look weaker than they would have done flying solo.

The other reason factions get established of course is when you have an overflow of talent. Right now WWE does not have an overflow of talent, and in my eyes is rather struggling to find much that is new and interesting to show us (which is why concepts such as “Incest, what a good idea” come around). The last thing we need is some bloated coalition of main event talent, further limiting the number of prospective feuds available and leading to more and more TV and PPV space being given over to tag team matches featuring guys who suck at it. (The state of tag wrestling is my biggest despair right now)

What I would like to see would be a united, cross brand, heel coalition. It always seems stupid to have a pair of main eventers who are chasing the same goal working together, but to have a trio of mid carders from the three brands, (MVP, Shelton & ... err Y2J… but not Y2J, move someone less established over to RAW) for example, start appearing together to further one another’s interest on their respective shows. That’s an idea that I really think could work, and could help to push a respectable number of stars without falling victim to the traditional WWE issue of 'pushing the top guys and jobbing out everyone else' (otherwise known as WCW/ECW Invasion Syndrome).

Reading back, I’ve got to mention that I actually LIKE the idea of a main event faction; they’re novel and interesting; I just don’t think that at this moment the WWE has the talent, on or off the stage, to book such an idea successfully.

[John87]

ok so Gelgarin. i cant top you. lol. you are extremely right. but, id really like to see a new DX/Nation thing. i mean, given that the only heel in the company right now is Mark Henry, maybe henry can lead them and let Ron Simmons not go back and keep his DAMN going on (because lets face it, he cant be a heel again. hes too funny) like say, instead of HBK going back, maybe let Triple H bring up new stars and Henry do the same. maybe, after HBK retires, because i know that Triple H will still be there in the long run. then it could make sense. i mean, new stars in a new nation/dx thing would be great and triple h and henry could be like, mentors but still wrestle?

New Generation DX:
1. Triple H (top dog)
2. CM Punk to take Pac's place (mid-card)
3. Michelle McCool or Mickie James as the chick (womens champ)
4. Cody Rhodes and Colin Delaney as the tag team (tag champs)

New Generation Nation Of Domination
1. Mark Henry (top dog)
2. Shelton Benjamin or MVP or even both (mid carder, although MVP seems like a top dog)
3. Layla as maybe to even up with DX (womens champ)
4. Crime Tyme. simply because RAW has done nothing with them yet. (tag team champs)

I know this looks stupid but its still an idea. i mean, what the hell has WWE actually done good lately? besides the black out, the walk out and the title ablaze? tell me what you all think. is it changeable? yes, no maybe so?

[slimmshady]

You could call La Familia a stable but truth be told its not a proper stable if you know what I mean. Compare it to DX, Evolution, NWO and the four horsemen and you get only one decent wrestler and that is Edge. But even he is becoming too predictable as every time he faces the undertaker, either the edgeheads interfere or vicky does something to cause the undertaker to lose the title again. Personally, I wouldn't call this a true stable as decent stables tend not to rely on the help of their gm. Mind you the undertaker has had only one proper stable and that was with kane. Also there needs to be some new stables, not resurrecting DX and adding a few new members because that would ruin the reputation of the old DX. Fare enough if they bring DX together again, but only the wrestlers that normally belonged to the stable should only be able to join. I mean can you imagine what it would be like if another member decides to join the brothers of destruction, say someone like big show. It just doesn't work out unless it is a brand new, unique stable.

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Stables seem to be primarily used to get over the midcard and tag team talent whilst pushing the leader into a secure main event slot.

Thusly, I don't think we really have too many choices for a big stable. Too many wrestlers that are going to be pushed to the main event soon don't have the character personality that would warrant having a group of close friends. Guys like MVP, Cena, Orton, Kennedy...would they really have a successful stable? I doubt it.

Because of that, and how we've seen Corporation 100x over, I think instead of having a giant stable, we could have some mini-stables that help get over some talent but not by overshadowing the rest of the rosters.

For instance, once La Familia is over with, we'll have Edge + Ryder + Hawkins. Edge is already a main event talent and once they stop booking Ryder/Hawkins to look like jobbers, they could be a solid tag team much along the lines of Edge/Christian. I once heard the term "Rated R-my" which I really liked, but "Rated R-Entourage" is still ok.

Other possibilities:

Morrison (Main Event) + The Miz + Kenny Dykstra, and maybe someone for muscle. You could tag team two of the 3 outside of Morrison and use the other one for a midcard title chase. To keep with the whole "there are winners and there are losers", the "palace of wisdom", all that such, just call them The In Crowd and continue that gimmick.

Regal + Burchill + Katie Lea. Regal for main event, Burchill for midcard, Katie for the women's title obviously.

D.H. Smith + T.J. Wilson + Natalya Neidhart Again, not much of a stable per say, but if they brought Wilson up, he and Smith could be a solid tag team and Natalya could go for the women's title. Naturally, if Teddy Hart wasn't such an idiot, this could reform the Hart Foundation, but that probably won't be happening.

Hell, if you really wanted to start making some stables to get over the tag team division whilst keeping the stars as jobbers and such, why not have an ECW stable? Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards, Nunzio, uh...I don't know, who cares? Lol.


Anyway, my point is, I don't think having a giant stable running the WWE is the right thing to do right now as most of the guys that we/they want in the main event are already on their own receiving those pushes. Just for fun, though, they should have some mini-stables and tag teams to help bring some unity.

[Joaquim Akaem]

There's a rumour of a new faction comming to Raw, which is generation II.
There is Carlito as the mouthpiece and leader.
The other members of the group will be Dibiase jr, Afa jr, Cody Rhodes and Harry Smith.
I don't think this is a bad idea, as all of these WWE superstars come with a good reputation and a point to prove.
I'm not sure if this will be a dominating force on the roster or maybe just in the midcard, but either way, I think it's about time that Carlito did something better than what he has been doing the last couple of years, and young Smith deserves a push, Rhodes speaks for himself. Cody is destined for great things in the future. The other two superstars I have never seen wrestle, but they can't be a bad addition to any group.

[Trumike]

There could be a new heel stable with Dibiase Jr, Cody Rhodes, Carlito, with Randy Orton as their mouthpiece. Orton is also a next generation star. With him leading the pack they could be a younger, newer Evolution. They could bethe New Age of Orton. Or they could be called Greater than before. Orton as heavyweight champion, Dibiase as Intercontinetal champion and Rhodes and Carlito as tag champs. They cold run Raw. Help each other escape with victories their matches.

[Mr.Grevas]

"The Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase should come out one night on Raw with his son Ted Jr. Here Ted Sr. announces that he's starting a new faction here on Raw called the "Future Franchise Players" and that Ted Jr is one of the members. Later that night on Raw, Harry Smith [ No longer DH Smith] teams with the debuting TJ Wilson for the first time against the champs, Holly and Rhodes. After a bit of smack talking, it becomes a title match and about five minutes into the match Cody Rhodes turns on his partner. TJ Wilson and Harry Smith have won the tag titles in their first match together, with the help of turncoat Cody Rhodes. Cue both Dibiases who join Rhodes, Wilson and Smith in a celebration.

The next week on Raw Ted Sr opens the show with his 4 young superstars, 2 of which already carry gold. Ted says that this group is only missing one piece and it will be filled tonight! Everyone is buzzing, trying to figure out if we already know the 5th member or if he's someone new. In the segment before the main event [ a title match between HHH and Jeff Hardy] we see Ted Sr talking with Mr. McMahon, but we don't hear what they're saying.

Cut to the main event. Hardy and "The Game" have been going at it for ten minutes when Ted Sr and his crew come out. The 4 wrestlers surround the ring and Ted stands at the top of the ramp with a mic. He says that this is now a triple threat match! Meet the final member of The Future Franchise Players, MVP!!! MVP hits the ring and the match quickly ends in a dq.

The new group now has a leader in MVP and he'll be a main event player. Wilson and Smith would be defending their tag titles, while Rhodes and Dibiase Jr would both be gunning for the IC title while helping out their stable mates.

[FTS]

The whole problem with that booking (which I like) is that you need one guy who is established above all the others. Flair was already selling out 100,000 seat arenas when the Horsemen first formed. Ted Dibiase < Ric Flair (or JJ Dillon for that matter). If HHH or HBK took the MVP role, the booking would work. I would like to see MVP in the main event, but the booking of stables works against him. So much of a show is booked around a stable when there is a dominant one. Look at last night's Smackdown. The opening segment and the main event, plus one segment in the middle. While I don't doubt MVP could do it, I don't think the WWE would want to book as much as a quarter of its show around a guy who has never main evented. He would have to sell the next PPV. Maybe if it was HHH v Hardy v MVP it would work, but after that? After one triple threat match would MVP be ready to headline the company? Put Cena in that role, and you freshen up his character. Put MVP in that role and you give him someone to talk to.

[tha_icon85]

I also like that booking wit the exception of MVP. He is a talent and the future of wwe, but he doesn't fit the group. also two members going after the same belt that early wouldn't give the feel of dominants that's instant friction. 5 members is just to much .

here's my line-up: keep it 2nd gen

rhodes&ted jr(tag team of the stable)
DH smith( the muscle-future IC contender)
Orton(main event leader, and mouthpiece)
extra-Natalya( women rep and escort)
this way u got contenders for every belt. an established main eventer as the leader. plus orton hinted that he wanted to re establish evolution @ ONS.

I do think MVP would do good to establish his own stable. who should be in it I would like ur thoughts B4 I give mine

[matty256]

well like the icon said at one night stand they kinda teased that eventually batista and randy orton will start a stable and if they do i think batista should be drafted and be turned heel and have cody rhodes dh smith ted jr maybe carlito and add on beth pheniox as a chyna type body guard and u have pretty decent faction as for a name maybe the new evolution probably wont be as good as the old one but will establish stars out of cody rhodes dh smith ted jr and hopefully carlito because hes been done wrong as of late

[incrediblesim]

Stable 1- VIP's Alliance

Leader- MVP
Mid- Card/Eventual Break Away Superstar- Elijah Burke
Tag- Team- D-Lo Brown & Shelton Benjam
Muscle- Mark Henry

Ideas- You can make it race heavy if you want. Build it so that they all make it clear that they all want Gold. They all at some point secure the gold maybe not all at the same time but they do hold the gold. Have MVP's VIP Lounge as the focal point of the group. Have backstage vignettes where they hold VIP style parties. If you exaggerate the amount of the success they achieve you can eventually play on the theme that they become victims of their own success and the group splits up.

Stable 2- The Mafia

Leader- Santino Marella
Tag Team- Marco & Franco (Formerly Deuce & Domino)
Muscle- Whoever becomes Santino's Bodyguard
Diva- Maryse

Ideas- Draft Santino to S/D! but keep Santino's persona as it is. Get Deuce & Domino off TV and re-model them into two serious Itallin dudes with Mafia- Related pasts. Have Santino get pretty badly beaten up a couple of weeks in a row so he introduces his bodyguard but still him and the bodyguard are getting brutalized. So he says he has some friends in Italy who will help him. Introduce Marco & Franco and feed them the regular jobbers in horrible- looking, brutal squash matches. Have Santino regain some credibility with a few wins and you have the settings for some good mid-card feuds. Have a few comedy spots where Nunzio wants in but the group aren't having any of it.

Stable 3- Million Dolar Evolution

Leader- Randy Orton
Mid-Card/Eventual Break Away Superstar- CM Punk (Please turn him heel!!)
Tag Team- Ted DiBiase Jr. & Cody Rhodes
Diva- Beth Phoenix
Manager- Ted DiBiasie

Ideas- The Tag Team is formed when Cody Rhodes turns on Hardcore at NOC. Punk turns heel via feuding with Jeff over the MITB. After numerous beatdowns, out-numberings Jeff walks out of a PPV with that case. TDB Snr says the boys (Rhodes, TD2, Punk) just need to be around people witha track record of success- cue Phoenix and Orton.

Others (Less Detail)

Stable 4- Latin Connection

Leader- Rey Mysterio
Mid-Card- Chavo Guerrero
Tag- Carlito & Eddy Colon

Idea- They unite against Santino's Mafia.

Stable 5- The Rated R-My

Leader- Edge
Mid-Card/Break Away- John Morrison
Tag- Hawkins & Ryder (Make them a serious Tag Team)
Diva/Manager- Ashley

Idea- Pushing the envelope is their thing! More edgier angles are born out of this stable.

[Kurt]

Here are some of my ideas for a stable and the back story:

NeXGeneration Stable



Ted DiBiase Sr. ( Mentor,Manager)
Ted DiBiase Jr.(Leader,Main Eventer,Group-Speaker)
Cody Rhodes (Group-Speaker,Break-away wrestler, Intercontinental Champion maybe?)
D.H Smith (Tag Team Champion?)
Afa Anoi'a Jr. (Team's Muscle.Tag Team Champion?)

How this all could happen:

Cody Rhodes and Hardcore Holly are the Tag Team Champions heading into Night of Champions. Rhodes is worrying about who Ted DiBiase's mystery partener could be and Holly tells him not to worry because they are--the tag team champs.Rhodes feels reassured that they could win so he goes into the match cocky and overestimating his competitors.Ted DiBiase Jr. and Sr. come out and go into the ring asking for the microphone. They tell the crowd that tonight their will be a storm coming--a Samoan Storm. Afa Jr.comes to the ring and the match begins. Cody realizes that he shouldn't underestimate his opponents and gets over-powered by Afa Jr. Mid-way through the match Cody gets the tag on Holly and Holly starts to clean house.Holly,sure he has the match won,tries to tag in Rhodes but he doesn't want to be tagged-in. Holly then slaps Rhodes and Rhodes slaps him in return while Holly turns around to a Samoan Storm (Spinning fireman's carry face buster) on Holly to pick up the win and the tag titles. After the match Rhodes beats down on Holly and the DiBiase's join in and Afa Jr. too.D.H Smith's music plays and he comes down to the ring with a chair and the crowd thinks he comes to help him but ends up hitting him with the chair and joining the stable. They all raise each other's hand and state themselves as the NeXGen Stable.

I also have a link to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afa_Anoa%27i%2C_Jr.) that says their will be a next generation stable.

[mouthforcombat]

This is one of WWE's biggest problems, the lack of stables. When wrestling was still booming, late 90's, they had meaningful stables. DX, The Nation, DOA, etc. Now it seems they just throw a bunch of random guys together and hope for the best. Stables/factions should have meaning, all the guys should have something in common and share a goal. Personally, I think they should bring the Nation of Domination back. Farooq could get tired of walking around and saying, "Damn!", and have a Paul Heyman like, break-out promo and start a very good heel faction. Shelton Benjamin, D-Lo, Burke, and Mark Henry all behind Farooq, that would pull some ratings.

[tha_icon85]

so ur telling me ted jr is ready to lead a stable and be a main event player when he has had no match to date no in ring success. that's make no senses. the point of establishing a stable is to A) put future stars wit establish ones to help them develop B) rasie rating(ppl will tune in if they think anything can happen from week to week) Fans would not except not of these rookies coming in contending for a major belt. that's y u need a already established star to build a stable around. they serve as mentors and r the minds behind the machine. they kno how thinks work and wht it takes to be dominant. fan won't believe that a team of rookies r running the show even wit ted sr as a mentor. if theyy r smart they will add orton to the mix. Dnt believe its a proving formula look @ 4 horsemen, NWO , dx all successful all follow the formula.

[FTS]

Icon, that's not all. Someone else said that Santino should lead a stable. Stables exist to protect the top guy and swallow gold. What is the point of protecting Santino? Is he going to win the WHC and then need protection? Please. Orton, I guess could lead a stable of 2nd gen guys, but he's pretty shitty on the mic.

The other ideas is to take all the black talent on the roster and make them live out a rap video week to week. That is blatantly racist and stupid, so it might happen. If you really want a second "nation" you should have all the black guys and Colin Delanney (token white guy, same talent as Owen Hart) talk about how for years the WWE has held them down. Talk about how black guys never get chances. Can you imagine the heat from someone saying that the Rock is the only brotha that ever got a chance, but he's no brotha, that Oreo sumbitch sold out and played the white man's game. Then have Ron Simmons come out and yell Damn! and when he turns around to go back, MVP yells, wait, even those rednecks in WCW and NWA gave you a chance. Ron turns around and becomes their muscle.

That has storyline depth and doesn't make more a mockery out of the black race than MVP's character already does. I'm black so I brag a lot. Stupid WWE. I like MVP, I think he's funny, but he already toes a line and making him the leader of a bunch of black guys who go to the club and pull hoes and wear jewelery just seems like something the WWE could never pull of tastefully.

[mouthforcombat]

The other ideas is to take all the black talent on the roster and make them live out a rap video week to week. That is blatantly racist and stupid, so it might happen. If you really want a second "nation" you should have all the black guys and Colin Delanney (token white guy, same talent as Owen Hart) talk about how for years the WWE has held them down. Talk about how black guys never get chances. Can you imagine the heat from someone saying that the Rock is the only brotha that ever got a chance, but he's no brotha, that Oreo sumbitch sold out and played the white man's game. Then have Ron Simmons come out and yell Damn! and when he turns around to go back, MVP yells, wait, even those rednecks in WCW and NWA gave you a chance. Ron turns around and becomes their muscle.

If you're referring to what I was saying, I think you may have misunderstood me... Or I'm misunderstanding you. Some stupid rap Cryme-Tyme type gimmicks are not what I'm talking about. If you remember the REAL Nation of Domination, before D-Lo was a wrestler, before The Rock ruined it, and before there was a Ho-Train or any stupid crap about a pimp, The Nation of Domination were all about "By Any Means Necessary". They had guys with suits, they argued that the black wrestlers were held down, they had serious gimmicks and the only comedy about them was the two white rappers that came out and made fools of themselves and always got beat up. They should stay along those lines. But, it's like you say, WWE will never have the intelligence or class to pull something like that off.

[Crimson Bonez]

i think sone cody rhodes will turn heel turn on holly and join with Dibiase jr and (possibly) his partner at NOC D.H. Smith, Nattalya drafted to raw and theres your female, maybe even carlito, a full team of 2nd gen. wreslers, still got afa jr in FCW and reid flair yet to debut in FCW and if im not mistaken mr. perfect son is in FCW or yet to debut, altought they have nothing to do with the mainstream that could be a young heel stable, but a stable full of young and mid card/ former jobbers maynot be good

i also think that IF cena gets drafted to smackdown he should go back to his old smackdown gimmic become a heel and start a heel stable Chain Gang and of course hed be the general, and pick up M.V.P, maybe crime tyme if theyre drafted, and shelton ron killings/elijah burke/shelton benjamin if either are drafted but cena would be the main eventer, M.V.P/elijah burke would be the mid carder who eventually turns on the main guy and goes for his title, it wouldnt even have to be all black ppl throw santino in there maybe "spanky" comes back but any of them i think would be a good strong stable

[danaconda]

I'm gonna try and make this kinda quick because other wise I will ramble....
Once Regal returns..

Regal as the mouth piece/leader
Finaly as the muscle/mouth piece
Burchill as the muscle
Katie Lea as Valet/womens contender
DH Smith as tag team
Drew Mcintyre as tag team

Call it EU or something.

Regal hold the unrecognized Euro title, kinda like how the FTW title was not recognized. But the stable defends him like the horsemen did Flair when he was champ.

Have Regal give pro UK monarchy/anti American/taking back what belongs to the crown/rule Britannia kinda promos

You can have main/semi main events with Regal/Finaly vs Cena/JBL (playing the defender of the USA.

Burchill would have way more of a mean streak.

And it could be a good way for Smith and Mcintyre a rub.

I can hear JR "well here comes Regal and this European Union of his, holding a title that dosen't even exists King"

Eventually Finaly would turn face on Regal after too much talk about how Finaly is a lower class than all of them (because he is Irish). Finaly beats the hell out of Regal and takes back the Euro title to the WWE shelf.

It's not a great idea, it has some holes but what the hell.

[tha_icon85]

sorry I dnt think regal has wht it takes to be a main eventer they can try to push him on us as much as they want I never see him as a champ in the business. it was a mistake having him win KOTR that dnt make u a start when they feed u mid carder. They need to look to the future. give orton mvp or somebody fresh a chance to run a faction.

MVP faction:
mvp the leader
benjamin & burkè tag
mark henry muscle or somebody else mayb a fresh face.

gimmick- all gifted athletes that r tired of waiting for they're shot so they're taking it

[mattg0728]

I had the same thing in mind what MouthforCombat said: Have Ron Simmons be fed up with this "stereo-typing" he deals with, each week he has to come out there and say "damn" to please the MAN. But I feel the New Nation should be made up of Cryme Tyme dropping their "stereo-typed" image given them, have MVP drafted to RAW and be the superstar of the group, Elijah Burke being 2nd man.

[Blizz]

I like the idea that has been thrown around and considered by the creative (as i hear) which is this:
Orton or Carlito as the leader/mouthpiece
Dh smith
Cody Rhodes
Ted Dibiase Jr.
Afa Jr
and possibly Nattie but I think that would be too many people. I think Cody Rhodes and Ted Jr would be tag champs and maybe Dh or Afa could eventually get the IC title as the leader shoots for the Wwe title. Ted Jr. would eventually want the title and would turn on the leader and we would eventually have he and the leader in a match at a big ppv. Now that I think about it, I think Nattie should be in there as well. That's six youg superstars that could eventually have a career like there relatives.

[FOTH 3:16]

Here's what I think could happen.Since these guys are real life friends,the could put both the Hardyz,Shannon Morre,and Gregory Helms together.They could call it High Voltage after Matt's former ring name.Gregory Helms could be the mouthpiece and go for the Tag Titles with Morre,Jeff and Matt could go for the World title and IC or U.S. Title.I think that would work since they are real-life friends.

[kingrko]

First, I'm glad someone decided to bring up this subject, and second, there are negatives to this. First of all, the leader of this heel stable has to be a main eventer. The only problem with that is that as the leader of the heel stable he suddenly can't beat other main eventers and has to rely on his minions to win. At the same time though, the minions of the stable also get heat and pushed for the IC, US, or Tag Team titles. Also, with matches involving stable leaders, you can predict what the result is, which doesn't add to the drama of the match. While the leader becomes hated and wins the world title, the minions actually get more out of it. Minions will find themselves in matches against enemies of their main event leader. This helps to put the minions over, and also make the stable dominant. And of course, we all watch with baited breath as we watch the eventual destruction of the stable, which can lead to even greater fueds.
So as for the stable itself, it should be a heel one.

Name: Golden Future.

Leader: Mr. Kennedy

Guy just under the leader: Lance Cade

Minions: The Miz and Morrison.

[dvayne]

After Lance Cade's recent push and reasoning behind his alliance with Jericho I could see a stable being created to take out HBK using Jericho who looked up to him as the leader with HBK's former students in the alliance. Bryan Danielson recently had a dark match which is a sign that they have an eye on him and if they get him away from ROH this would be a good way to debut him. Other possible members (but doubtful) include Matt Bentley (Formerly Martyr from TNA) and Veronica Stevens (Formerly Simply Luscious from TNA) However Matt is currently focusing on his band and Veronica is in WEW
This could put Jericho back in the ME as the top heel on Raw stealing victories with the help of his stable but push them as dominant where they don't always need each other. Don't have them turn out to be Raw's version of La Familia

Leader: Chris Jericho
Mid Card/Muscle: Lance Cade
Tag-Team: Paul London & Bryan Danielson

[MasterDebator]

I mentioned this in the CM Punk - Heel or Face thread that was just started. A heel stable made up of Chris Jericho, Lance Cade, CM Punk, and possible the team of Rhodes and Dibiase or even Matt Striker. Jericho and Cade are already teamed up by sharing the "honest man" philosophy. I feel that Punk's straight-edge lifestyle gimmick fits in perfectly with those two. Striker, Rhodes, and Dibiase are just suggestions since I don't think the team of Y2J, Punk, and Cade is strong enough on it's own. They'd need atleast one or two more wrestlers -- a tag team or a singles guy.

I'm also not clever enough to think of a name.

[knslms]

I don't understand why wwe is so down on the "cool heel" angle. Thats what has worked the best in the past, and I think it would work good right now with Edge being the main guy. La familia just isn't working for me. I seen someone mention that it should cover all three brands and I like that idea. Good canidates would be Miz/morison, Jericho, Lance Cade, MVP, Elijah Burke, Kennedy, maybe even have Randy Orton Leading on the Raw side.

[canning027]

After watching the end of Raw last night this stable came in mind: John Cena as the main event wrestler, Cryme Tyme as the tag team, and then possibly Kofi Kingston as the mid-card wrestler. I really enjoyed seeing Cena and Cryme Tyme together since a Cena-lead stable could help elevate Cryme Tyme into the tag title picture instead of just having them in joke skits. I just hope this wasn't a one time thing.

[Sicko]

I would love to see Y2J get one, Y2J has the charisma to lead a Heel Stable, they already have Cade with him, now maybe put Dibiase & Rhodes with him and another young guy like Kenny Dykstra or something, but Dibiase and Rhodes both seems to already be pretty good on the mic so I don't think they need to be in a stable


CM Punk has a ton of charisma as a heel if anyone seen his ROH stuff, I think he is too big of a star now to put him in a stable with Y2J, maybe they could give him his own and put Dibiase and Rhodes with him I don't know

[MasterDebator]

I agree Sicko. After seeing Punk win the belt on Raw, it's obvious that Punk is higher on the totem pole of priorities right now in the WWE's eyes than Jericho. Placing him in a heel stable at this point would be useless since he's over as a face (apparently) and he would take a backseat to Y2J if the stable were to be formed. I really liked my idea of the straight edge Punk joining Y2J and Cade but alas it seems not to be. It is possible that he maybe forms a stable of his own but I don't think it's necessary. I never enjoyed face stables and if he were to form one now it would most certainly be one.

[WrestlingDude]

well if this stable is a New Generation, how bout use the children from former wrestlers, the tag team champs, ted dibiase jr. and cody rhodes, if so then send dh smith back to raw and natalya neidhart as a manager. randy orton can be the leader of this heel stable as wwe champion

[MasterDebator]

I love the idea of a new generation stable but I thought DH Smith and Carlito moving to SD sort of put the kaibosh on that one. There is still the possibility of Orton coming back and leading this sort of stable, which would RULE -- but it seems unlikely. Maybe WWE is satisfied by having one heel stable in La Familia (a lackluster one at that).

[DhA]

This stable could be either face or heel, but should be together for a long time to gain familiarity with the audience etc


John Morrison - The main guy/leader, I don't think you shoudl waste a real ME guy on a stable all the time the stabel could rise as John Morrison does through the ranks, then maybe self destruct when he finally reaches the WWE/WHC...

The Miz - Obviously taggign with John Morrison atm, but could be phased into a peripharal role, being the ''little bitch'' of the group

London and Kendrick - Exciting tag team, look fits well with Morrison and their involvement in the group should give them a push

Charlie Haas - Could start out in the stable due to the other guys saving him from ''career ending doom'' or something *eg. Kane abotu to set him on fire), and sticks around so that when Morrison goes to ME, he can claim the IC/US title and, if his mic skills improve, take over the group

Maria - She's hot, eye candy of the group, strong woman, attached to John Morrisson

Maryse - Valet for London and Kendrick

The overall gimmick could be of like party dudes / free love / 60's kinda thing, that way they coudl go voer the top with it and be hee or be really positive faces

[Ben_the_man]

Watching the main event of Raw when John Cena and Cryme Tyme came to beat up JBLs private security force, I had a thought.

There seems to be a number of potential stables at the moment on Raw, youve got:

John Cena and Cryme Tyme,
Chris Jericho and Lance Cade,
JBL and personally, I think DiBiase and Rhodes will form a stable with him. Their gimmicks just seem to fit each other, the whole money thing.
And there are rumours of a heel Evolution with Batista and Randy Orton, when he gets back from injury.

So what I was thinking was to have CM Punk being the man that everybody wants, as he has the title, caught in the middle of all these factions.

It starts at Summerslam, with Punk vs. Cena, then at Unforgiven Punk vs. Jericho, at No Mercy, Punk vs. JBL, then at Cyber Sunday, Punk vs. Randy Orton, as Batista has a match at GAB. Punk wins every match. Then at Survivor Series, have Fatal-Four Way match, with every member of each stable at ringside, maybe a Lumberjack Match. Make it an elimination match. Then the GM at this point, maybe Regal, comes out and announces that this is a five-way match, and the surprise participant is...The Undertaker!

Order Of Elimination:
1. JBL
2. Cena by Jericho, setting up a fued for later on, maybe at the Rumble.
3. Cena causes Jericho to get eliminated.
4. Punk, so Taker gets another WHC reign!

There you go, a 4-5 monh storyline, and, if done right, could make Punk the next big star, which is obviously what WWE want im to be.

Thoughts?

[ronbart]

i like it, but i dont see punk holding the title that long alone. half way through he would have to team with cena/crime tyme. then at survivor seriers, punk will lead a team in the classic survivor series match. against a jericho or JBL lead team

[JaJaBings]

The gimmicks of John Cena and Randy Orton need to be freshen up, and what better than to lead a stable each? In fact, the ideal stable line-ups have interesting parallels, which would make their feuds more credible.

John Cena - Cut that "I'm the Champ!" and that saluting crap, and return to a partial rapper gimmick he had before. Give funny rapping promos once more, instead of being so focused on the championship and giving irrelevant goodie-two-shoes comments, such as the praises he gave to Orton being one of the best in the business sometime back.

Cryme Tyme - If Cena returns to his rapper gimmick, Cryme Tyme would complement him perfectly. With the RAW tag team division still in its shaky stages despite improving slightly recently, having Cryme Tyme feud with DiBiase and Rhodes should bring back exciting tag-tean wrestling,

Midcarder - This spot is reserved for a surprise gimmick turn from a popular superstar. Kofi is one suggestion, but how about Rey Mysterio?

Valet - WWE has been teasing a romance angle between Cena and Mickie James, so it makes perfect sense for her to be in this stable

Randy Orton - Makes a huge splash upon his WWE return and declare himself as the leader of the heel stable.

DiBiase and Rhodes - Cocky tag-team heels to support the 2nd-generation theme of the stable.

Enforcer - Either JBL or Batista make sense here. JBL being employed by DiBiase Sr., or Batista turns heel and rejoins Orton, as teased by their encounter at One Night Stand. But similar prbs which plagued Evolution might arise. Too many main-eventers in the stable wanting to chase the championship would lead to its inevitable downfall.

Female Enforcer - Beth Phoenix to feud with Mickie James? She can play the role of Chyna well.

A tweener stable consisting of Jericho and Cade is also interesting. They're bona fide heels now, but I still see them as tweeners cos' I can't imagine Jericho suddenly becoming buddies with Orton and JBL, 2 major heels who wrecked his life early into his WWE return. If it happens, this is the stable which WWE can afford to be daring and risky. Give gimmick turns to underutilized wrestlers and build them up. Cade is benefiting greatly from his involvement with Jericho.

[Crimson Bonez]

gotta say i like that idea cena needs to go bak to the "rapper gimmic" lead the stable with cryme time, this would elevate cena as a better face (seeing as though they dont plan on him becoming a heel) and would elevate cryme time as a serious tag team and not a joke, i think if brian kendrick stayed on raw he would have fit in good as spanky as for the rest the heel and twenner stables i think would work out as well

[mcflyboy]

While there are some interesting points made in the above posts, I have to chime in and say that from a personal standpoint I really hope that cena does not go back to his rapper gimmick. That was the time I hated him the most and it really took a long time for me to get over it. There's only so many times that he can come out with a stupid rhyme that basically insinuates that his opponent is gay before that gets really really lame and stale, yet the WWE kept going with that for a long time.

If cena is added to a stable, I will cringe if they make him start rapping again, and I'll be glad for my mute button.

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

I had an idea for an NWO or DX style of faction based around the rated r superstar edge.
Edge would obviously be the leader and world title contender with john morrison as the midcarder and with the edgeheads as the tag title contenders. A heel Shawn Michaels would also be in this group, he would go back to his old controversial ways and i think he would fit in nicely. Also, some diva would be thrown in as well to add some sex appeal. This faction could take over and create lots of controversy. They could be the driving force behind bringing back some attitude in the wwe. just like the nwo worked for wcw this could work for the wwe.

[John87]

I had an idea for an NWO or DX style of faction based around the rated r superstar edge.
Edge would obviously be the leader and world title contender with john morrison as the midcarder and with the edgeheads as the tag title contenders. A heel Shawn Michaels would also be in this group, he would go back to his old controversial ways and i think he would fit in nicely. Also, some diva would be thrown in as well to add some sex appeal. This faction could take over and create lots of controversy. They could be the driving force behind bringing back some attitude in the wwe. just like the nwo worked for wcw this could work for the wwe.

sounds like a good idea i think it could work but the HBK thing, im iffy about that because anything sex related even appeal, wont work with him cause of his religion and what goes against it. but the four, that would be awesome to start off as like an NWO style because they'd of course be a heel group right? well if thats the case, they could sort of take over maybe smackdown! ya know? and it would most likely be wayyyy better than La Familia. lol i dont think anyone really cared much for that one.

[John87]

Im not entirely sure what you guys think but i really think John Cena should form some type of stable with Cryme Tyme cause when they were on the stage together like Cryme Tyme following Cena, it looked amazing. it blew me away and i think maybe a "gangster" type gimmick would work well like maybe a small posse. What do you guys think? think it could work? yey, ney, maybey? lol

[shaunbaby]

Im not entirely sure what you guys think but i really think John Cena should form some type of stable with Cryme Tyme cause when they were on the stage together like Cryme Tyme following Cena, it looked amazing. it blew me away and i think maybe a "gangster" type gimmick would work well like maybe a small posse. What do you guys think? think it could work? yey, ney, maybey? lol

STREET CYRME!!!

yeah i think it could work, im inclined to say i think it would work better as a heel team, Cena taking want he wants and his thugs backing him up, but you would more than likely need a "break out" star, in this position i would've put CM Punk in this place but with him just winning the World Heavyweight title, that wont.

I do agree whole heartdly that they do look GREAT together.

[DeadmanInc.]

I had an idea for an NWO or DX style of faction based around the rated r superstar edge.
Edge would obviously be the leader and world title contender with john morrison as the midcarder and with the edgeheads as the tag title contenders. A heel Shawn Michaels would also be in this group, he would go back to his old controversial ways and i think he would fit in nicely. Also, some diva would be thrown in as well to add some sex appeal. This faction could take over and create lots of controversy. They could be the driving force behind bringing back some attitude in the wwe. just like the nwo worked for wcw this could work for the wwe.

I was thinking about something similar as well. Edge is called the "Rated R Superstar" yet he hasn't done anything "Rated R" ever since Lita left (besides making out with Vickie :icon_eek:). I think a controversial faction is just what Edge needs and it would be reminiscent of the Attitude era.

JBL & DiBiase and Cryme Tyme & Cena seem like really obvious factions to make. I'm surprised WWE has waited this long for Cryme Tyme and Cena to work together especially since Cena is a "marine" now instead of Vanilla Ice...err a rapper. JBL and DiBiase would work well together since their gimmicks are so similar.

[JaJaBings]

While there are some interesting points made in the above posts, I have to chime in and say that from a personal standpoint I really hope that cena does not go back to his rapper gimmick. That was the time I hated him the most and it really took a long time for me to get over it. There's only so many times that he can come out with a stupid rhyme that basically insinuates that his opponent is gay before that gets really really lame and stale, yet the WWE kept going with that for a long time.

If cena is added to a stable, I will cringe if they make him start rapping again, and I'll be glad for my mute button.

Which was why I said to return to his rapping gimmick partially. Actually less so of a wannabe rapper, but a street thug. Give Rock-like promos, and perhaps the raps can be short and end in a catchphrase so we won't have to endure 5 mins of his rapping.

I like the idea about Edge leading a credible faction to live up to his 'Rated-R' motto, but he's delved too deep into the shit called La Familia, that in order for him to get out, he'd have to turn face. That faction is crap, it has completely no structure and makes no sense at all. Vickie, a wheelchair-bound woman, stole the limelight from Edge. The rest of the members are jobbers, with the slight exception of Chavo contending for midcard titles.

RAW roster seems perfect to build some nice stables, but the rosters of Smackdown and ECW don't seem to yield any good stable ideas. Where's Ron Killings and D'Lo Brown? They can lead a Nation-like faction.

[John87]

STREET CYRME!!!

yeah i think it could work, im inclined to say i think it would work better as a heel team, Cena taking want he wants and his thugs backing him up, but you would more than likely need a "break out" star, in this position i would've put CM Punk in this place but with him just winning the World Heavyweight title, that wont.

I do agree whole heartdly that they do look GREAT together.

yeah it definately would need a break out star. maybe like MVP, Ken Kennedy, or Elijah Burke. or even the new guy Atlas Ortiz. Yeah, Punk really would have worked with it cause he dresses in street clothes when not on camera and that would be a great thing to bring into his character but yeah hes the world champ.

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

I like the idea of an evolution style faction with orton leading it(representing the present) and with JBL in there as a midcarder representing the past and with Dibiase jr. and rhodes as the tag team of the group representing the future. Ted DiBiase sr. could also be involved as the manager of the faction(Representing the past as well). JBL would work well with dibiase.

On a side note Val Venis should start a faction called Money Shot Inc.

[TheOneBigWill]

Ron "The Truth" Killings and Cryme Tyme: How great of a heel stable could these three become? Killings could lead them, and as a heel faction they could get over massively.

I mean, Cryme Tyme's name instantly could get heel heat if they just tried. And Killings background from his redebut promo could instantly trigger the fact that reforming to being a good guy isn't always easy.

Killings going to Smackdown was a mistake to me, and pairing up with Cryme Tyme as an all-heel faction would've been so much better to do. I'd actually enjoy seeing all three of them if that ever happened. Sooner or later, I hope it actually does.

[DJ]

We haven't seen a proper good heel stable since The Horsemen.Sure There was Evoultion.But will they be remember down the line?No.They'll be remembered for their singles careers unlike the horsemen.

So what WWE Talent could make up a stable that could live up to the epicness of the Horsemen?Well heres my "New" Horsemen Stable.

Leader: Chris Jericho.
Y2J-Great techincal wrestler,can have a good ol' brawl and is great on the microphone.Look at a young Ric Flair-Its amazing how simlar they are.If pushed rightly Jericho could become the Greatest stable spokesman in History.

Mid Card: Charliee Haas
Yup.Good Ol' Haas.But instead of his usual self turn him into A Dean Malenko style wrestler-A Ice Man.Someone whos cool,calm and can break your spine in two.Haas could get really over like this.

Tag Team: Cody Rhodes
Cody,Cody,Cody-The future me thinks.But he won't be ready for a while.So stick in him the tag divison for a while to build him up along with.........

Tag Team: Lance Cade
This guy could be like Cody-A big star in the future.So build him up like Cody.And when hes ready do what happened when Orton was thrown out of Evoultion-But make it good this time.

[Ad!]

The Circle
Joint Leaders: Orton and Batista
Batista goes heel and they set this up. Call it the circle as things have come 'full circle' since Evolution. They are now the main eventers.

Tag Team: Rhodes and Dibiase
Orton and Batista instate them as the up and comers, they will continue the circle.

Possibly another mid carder. Lance Cade?

Either way have Orton help out Batista on his return (hopefully soon), they dominate on RAW for a while. The split inevitably comes when the Title gets between them, or they lose the title, and they settle it at WM XXV in an Evolution Grudge match that Ric Flair announces, no title necessary. Orton should win.

[cnizich14]

idk what for a name but i would love to see something like this
Leader: JBL
JBL is "running raw" according to him and is having a good push as a major heel on raw he could be the veteran leader
Mid Card- Paul Burchill
has a great heel push goign against kofi and is a very strong oppenent..could be the muscles of the stable
Tag- Rhodes and Dibiase
Have a great future run in both of them and them teaming with JBL has the "money men" works out perfect for this stable.. this can give them a major push as heels
diva- katie lee
her and paul are working together pretty well and she is having a good push for the womens title

they could fight a stable of
leader-Cena
take him out of the WHC for a little and continue to feud with JBL
mid card-Kofi
he needs to team with someone whose already over to give him the proper push he needs to get over
tag- cryme tyme
try and help the tag division on raw with a strong feud and bring these super stars up
diva- mickie james
idk if the view of her and cena dating is over but she could fit her as cenas gf and feud with katie lee for the womens championship

another could be
jericho-leader
going up to ME status with "ending" HBKs career and great on the mic could work as the vet leader and spokesman of stable
mid card-Cade
followed jericho throughout the HBK feud towards the end, could be in contention for the int title
muscles-Palumbo
chuck needs a push as possibly the new "Umaga" for raw in a sense that he beats on anyone they need him to because he has the stature the be able to do that
another option for the big guy for the group could be deuce, possibly deuce and palumbo tagging for a dominant team
diva- beth phoenix
shed work with the whole muscles strong dominant theme for this stable and could give her another push for the womens title

[Darkshot77]

The Mega Monsters: The Great Kalhi, Valdimir Koslov and Umaga. Just imagine these three reaking havok on Smackdown!, doing what they want when they want because no one can stop them. Kahli in world title picture, Koslov and umaga could possibly tag team. They would need a spokesman (striker would have been great for this) but whoever it is could claimed to have tamed there monsters to do his bidding and could control Smackdown with an Iron Fist

[The Earl]

The only guys I see really pulling off a stable are Edge and JBL. Edge and La Familia is about to run its course, but I really see JBL sliding into the Raw GM role soon. Right there, have him hire out guys like Khali/ Umaga/ or maybe even Kane as his muscle, throw in a tag team like Rhodes and DiBiase..you could have something akin to the Corporation, with JBL as the mouthpiece and the main eventer. Nobody draws heat like Bradshaw, and that is what you need as a true faction leader. Take a look at the most sucessful stable since the Horsemen..the NWO. The origonal NWO that put WCW in the forefront and almost ran the WWE out of business. They took the most well known babyface of the modern era, turned him heel while also working an invasion angle. Hogan, Hall, Nash, and Waltman.

This drew the most heat I have see in 20 years. Every week at the end of Nitro, the ring would literally be covered with trash thrown in by a pissed off crowd that was almost on the verge of a riot. DX never drew this kind of heat...Evolution never drew this kind of heat.

And I know the NWO eventually got watered down with over-booking and every one knows tha story about how it was dusted off time and time again, but the original NWo from 1996 through 1997 was the model that every stable that has formed since has tried to follow.

My question is...who can draw that kind of heat now? Orton is hated, but his character is too much of a loner. Edge can draw the heat, but a lot of that comes off the fans disdain of Vickie. It's gotta be JBL, he's the only heel who's good enough on the mic to pull it off. So my vote is:

JBL and the Board of Trustees.
Bradshaw/Kane/DiBiase/Rhodes

[Jappa121]

Now Im almost positive this would never happen but a stable with Randy Orton, Edge and Kane would be amazing, RATED R-KANE-O. It could be started by simply reuniting Edge and Orton but have them take advantage of Kane becoming a monster again by aligning themselves with him, So that he doesnt attack them and they can make him do there dirty work, It would be a pretty powerful stable if you think about it, Edge and Orton could do all the talking to, and of course fight as well.

[BarryHorowitzfanclub]

I like the concept of a new NOD. We have a ton of great black wrestlers (not saying African American, since Kofi isn't African, nor American.)

Another good one is a "new generation" stable. This one would be perfectly executed once Randy Orton returns. Put him, Ted DiBiase(who should totally be known as the "million dollar son"), Cody Rhodes, Natalya, and hell, whoever else had a great dad wrestler and can wrestle (not so fast david flair).

[K Bro 30]

I'm personally a big fan of a stable like the mega monsters mentioned above. Big Show, Umaga, Great Khali and Kozlov. Big Show is good enough on the mic (not great, but good enough) to give the stable a voice. A good way to bring it about would be have Show or Umaga (or both and Kozlov) interfere in the match at Summerslam, and Khali becomes new champion. HHH feuds with one of them, and let Khali go on a couple months defending the title. Now to rival this stable, get some fan favorites who have not yet been given a title run. My idea is have Umaga win the US title (with interference of course), and have Shelton Benjamin go face, and try to take on the stable, but get demolished. Have Show and Kozlov then win the tag titles, and have them completely dominate the titles. So we have a stable of

Khali-WWE Champ
Umaga-US Champ
Big Show-Tag Champ
Kozlov-Tag Champ

They will be rivaled with faces Hawkins, Ryder, and Benjamin, but they need one more guy. Someone more proven to not only be the one to end Khali's months of terror and save Smackdown, but someone who WWE needs to give the belt to: Jeff Hardy. Picture at the Royal Rumble...Hardy vs Khali-Ladder match.