Shawn Michael's Final Match

[italyanstallyan]

What would you like to see happen?

I hope that at the Raw after a future WrestleMania, Shawn announces that this will be his last year and he is retiring at the next WrestleMania. He goes on to have a bunch of high profile feuds for the rest of the year. All the while, someone dominant, like a Triple H or Brock Lesnar type character, is holding the WWE Championship and is beating everyone that comes his way. Shawn goes on to win the Royal Rumble and challenges this guy for the WWE Title at his final WrestleMania. Sometime before Mania, the match becomes a Last Man Standing match.

During the match, there is a lot of back and forth action with these two guys beating the hell out of each other. Just when you think the dominant guy is going to win, Shawn hits the Sweet Chin Music out of nowhere and they both fall to the ground. As the ref counts to 10, Shawn is able to slowly pull himself back up with the help of the ropes and makes it to his feet just in time. After the bell rings, Shawn falls back to the ground from being exhausted. He wins the WWE Championship and has a farewell ceremony on the next Raw.

[HBK-aholic]

I've been thinking about this actually. And don;t get me wrong, I don't want Shawn to retire at all, but it'd be stupid for someone to think that this isn't on his mind if not everyone elses. He isn't in the same physical condition as he has been. and even though that doesn't make much difference to us as the fans as he is still brilliant in the ring, it makes a lot of difference to Shawn Michaels, as he's the one who feels the pain and tiredness that many other people don't understand.

With your suggestion, the one thing I don't understand is him winning the belt the day he retires, I find this pointless. However what I wouldn't fnd pointless is him having a championship run in his final year of wresling, or at least some time before he retires. I don't think many would disagree with the fact he deserves it, and definately deserves more runs than the amount he has been given.

I think Shawn, unlike Ric, should win his last match. the storyline with Flair was good, for him. However I don't think it'd work with Shawn. I think he should set a date, e.g. a Wrestlemania, and tell the world that will be his last match, regardless of win or lose. Him losing the match wouldn't be a bad thing, or a bad reflection of his career, as it certainly wasn't for Flair, however due to the nature of his gimmick of going out compared to Flairs, Shawn should win.

When trying to determine who should be the person to end his career, I think it's safe to say very few people have earned that honour. With Ric Flair, they chose a brilliant superstar to end his career, someone who always has great matches, and who had definately earned that. Out of respect for Flair, Shawn was one of few people who really should have been allowed to end the legacy. This is something Shawn Michaels also deserves. However, take Shawn out of the equation and who are we left with?

Triple H - Definately an option, and at the moment probably my favourite. The 2 have had such brilliant careers, and I'm a fan of HHH. Every WWE fan is familiar with the amount of history between the 2, whether it's love or hatred. Their matches have also always been brilliant. I love seeing them in the ring together, whether together or apart, as you just know you're going to see something special.

I'd never like to see them have another feud, as I think it's been done to the death and would definately take away from every other brilliant thing they've done in the ring. Fans should always remember the past matches they've had, as if they had anymore people would remember this feud for the many who would comaplin "We've seen it all before". However the one thing they haven't seen before is Triple H ending Shawn's career, in Shawns last ever match.

Hulk Hogan - The two had a good match a few years back, and Hogan definately has the fanbase to make this huge. However Shawn doesn't need that, and it'd be upsetting to see Shawn's career ended by this man. The 2 just don't compliment each others styles at all, and even though they can work together, I'd much rather see someone else who Shawn works with brilliantly.

Also, as I stated above, I want Shawn to win his final match. With the people we have at WWE, I think I can say quite easily that Shawn Michaels would not win if put against Hogan. Due to his 'hero' status with many fans, they would be unhappy with him losing, despite it being Shawn's match.

Austin/The Rock - I'm sure you know what I mean by classifying them together. They're both gone now, but still firm in the fans hearts, and still classed as big stars by the majority. Both have been the face of WWE, and everyone knows who they are, even the completely new fans.

Shawn and Austin had a great match before Shawn retired in 1998. Just imagine how much better it'd have been if Shawn wasn't on his way out due to an injury that bad? I think they could really have a good match, and I'd love to see it happen. However, same stands for with Hogan, would he come back to lose? He may do, but I can't see it as completely sure.

And also, a problem with bringing a wrestler such as The Rock, Austin or Hogan back for just that one night, is that the fact it's Shawn's last match would be taken away from. He deserves all attention to be on him, and every cheer to be for him and his career. I can't see it happening with these people returning.

Mr Kennedy - Has A LOT of potential at being huge. I think he's defiately going to be face of the comapny in a few years time. I think the odds on Kennedy ending his career are dependant on when Shawn does decide to retire. If it's Wrestlemania 25, I definately don't think he has a chance. However if it's closer to Wrestlemania 30, I could see him doing this. Not only would it further push his career in the right direction, it would also instantly give him a hall of fame name, if he wasn't aslready at that stage.

Whoever ends Shawn's career will automatically go down in history, as it would be one of the biggest things for someone to do. I also think it would fuel heel heat massively. I can't see many fans being happy with Shawn retiring, and if Shawn also lost his last match to this person, the crowd would turn on him like that. IT all depends on the direction they go in, but it would certaily be interesting.

As for type of match, I think in the end it should just be a regular singles match, no titles, no gimmicks, just Goodbye and Thank you Shawn. This way, nothing could take away from the skill we will see of Shawn that last time, and that we know he will deliver in massively, no matter his physical condition. He will be remembered for so much, that his last match will just be a tribute, yet the tip of the ice berg in what has been an amazing career.

[italyanstallyan]

I would have him win the title in his last match because it would be unexpected. No one thought that Flair was going to win. No one would expect Shawn to win the belt in his last match but he could shock the world and prove that he is still and always will be The Showstopper. I would want him to wrestle someone dominant because it could be as good as Eddie/Brock at No Way Out. It made you feel so much better when they won because you weren't expecting it at all.

[HBK-aholic]

I would have him win the title in his last match because it would be unexpected. No one thought that Flair was going to win. No one would expect Shawn to win the belt in his last match but he could shock the world and prove that he is still and always will be The Showstopper. I would want him to wrestle someone dominant because it could be as good as Eddie/Brock at No Way Out. It made you feel so much better when they won because you weren't expecting it at all.

Yeah, he will always be the Showstopper, and as I said, I think he should win the belt one final time before he retires. I just don't see the point in it being in his last match. I mean, he'll have no feuds, no title matches, no nothing. I don't think the tirle reign would mean anything.

I'd rather him be champion for a few months at least, have a few good feuds, really good title matches, and make the belt seem increasingly important, and put focus back on the one and only Showstopper.

[dragon09]

I would actually have his career end in the same town it began in and probally have him challenge a smaller profile guy like cody rhodes so that he can have a awesome match but at the same time build up someone elses career

[joeshmooz]

I agree. HBK needs a great victory for his last match, but while doing so, if he could build up a young superstar like Rhodes, then more power to him. personally, I believe that would be a great match because Cody Rhodes has shown a lot of talent in his latest matches. However, any match that is set to be the last for HBK would be amazing because that is what Shawn Michaels does best;entertaining and amazing!

[RoyHahn]

I don't think we need to talk about this yet, as I honestly believe HBK has another title run left in him. I think he should end as Undertaker has said he wants to end: after a long title run. Make him World Heavyweight Champion at Wrestlemania 27. Have him be dominant with the title for a complete year. Then, at Wrestlemania 28, have him lose the title and announce his retirement on the following Raw. Have him lose the title, as joeshmooz said, to someone such as Cody Rhodes, or Mr. Kennedy, to build them up.

[Danmen001]

Trust Becca to make a Will size post on HBK. :disappointed:

Yeah, I definately agree that HBK should win his last match. Because they will want different ways for Ric and HBK to go out on top.

At the moment I am utmost convinced that it will be HBK vs. HHH in a final match. I reckon HBK will win that match though, unless they want to keep the "Pass the Torch" thing going on.

I imagine the amtch of HHH and HBK will be legendary and mean alot. The hype for it will be beyond and above when that happen.

I think that the only other options would be an 'Against all odds' thing for HBK.

[Rated K for Kennedy... Kennedy!]

Personally as a lifelong Cliq member, I'd like to see him challenge Undertaker for a match at Mania (doesn't have to be for the title) and it's Streak V Career, whichever ending works for me. I'd like to see him leave on his own terms and just win a big match, maybe against Nash (if he leaves TNA). I'd rather see the cowboy riding into the sunset on his own terms than say Orton ends his career and cuts 5 years worth of promos about being the man who killed the Legend of HBK!

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Would have to b at Wrestlemania, as Shawn always steals the show and his last match would excel that even further. However, winning the title? That to me would look like they were sticking it to Bret Hart jus that little bit more, to purposely go against tradition when that's Vince's reason for screwing Bret in the first place.

[Sparky]

I agree it will have to be at wrestle mania as H.B.K is MR Wrestlemania. As Shawn michaels says the night after a ppv is more important to him then the actual ppv. So i would love to see shawn michaels Challange a face champion at wrestlemania, belt V's career. Lose only to have the face champion give him one more rematch the night after at his farwell see off and have him win it, or another way would to finish his ME status the way he started it a one hour iron man match with him winning it. but i couldnt bare to hear that the H.B.K will be retireing it makes me shudder. all i know is when it happens i will be there to watching his final match.

[domc36]

Shawn should win the title at Wrestlemania 24 in the main event and keep it till wrestlemania 25 feuding with guys like 'Taker, Batista, MVP Jeff Hardy and Jericho.After HBK beats all of these guys clean, staying faces but still be that edgey DX style character that he plays so well, and at about the royal rumble he will enter a program with Mr. Kennedy that is similair to the Fued they had last year but amplifeid and add a few personal aspects to make the fued more juicy and entertaining. Mr. Kennedy should beat HBK clean with his finisher after an awesome 35-45min match and win the title. But the next night on Raw, it will be in San Antonio, Mr. Kennedy will challenge HBK to a "whos-the-better-man-match" and of course HBK will win clean with sweet chin music and have his last match. He will leave to his music, to his fans. The next Raw he will have a ceremony very similair to Flairs.

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

A year in advance, HBK starts his "farewell tour", except instead of the way they did it with Flair, there's no "if you lose, you retire" stipulation. HBK simply states that he'll be retiring at WrestleMania no matter what.

Michaels goes through the entire roster. Everyone. Eventually, he has a match against the current champion and wins the title. He goes on a several month title defense - WITHOUT MINDLESS FEUDS - wherein there's no "you kicked my father, now I want revenge" type of things. Instead, everyone wants to challenge him because of how credible you'd be. It isn't an ego issue like it was with Flair...it isn't a "heels do blah blah to face, face gets mad, challenge is set" typical type of title reign...its "everyone on the roster wants to be the guy who ends HBK's final title reign", in a way.

He retains throughout the entire reign. Finally, at WrestleMania, knowing that even if he wins, he'll retire and the belt will be vacated, they have two specific matches. One of them is a #1 Contenders match (battle royal maybe) to determine one of the two people who will face each other at Backlash to win the vacant title. The other match is Michaels versus his choice. If the choice wins the match, he wins the title and thusly has to defend it against the winner of the #1 contenders match. If he loses and Michaels wins, the belt is vacated, and the #1 contender faces the person Michaels defeated.

Michaels chooses Triple H. I think by now, he should've already had a match with Taker (and I don't think they should put the streak on the line like that), possibly at Summerslam or Survivor Series or something to draw a big crowd, and I don't think anyone else could have a truly honorable match with Michaels. Morrison? Could do well, but despite how big of a fan I am of him, I think he should get his title shot beforehand, not at the grandest stage of them all.

Key here is to make it so HBK vs. HHH is not the typical feud, with one being a heel and doing despicable things and such. Just two friends. With Flair/HBK, they panicked at the end and tried to make HBK a heel in a way, which didn't sit right with me. None of that here.

HBK wins, Sweet Chin Music after...you guessed it....an Iron Man Match. 1-0 score.

Michaels deserves it.

[3astc0astk1d]

Yeah, he will always be the Showstopper, and as I said, I think he should win the belt one final time before he retires. I just don't see the point in it being in his last match. I mean, he'll have no feuds, no title matches, no nothing. I don't think the tirle reign would mean anything.

I'd rather him be champion for a few months at least, have a few good feuds, really good title matches, and make the belt seem increasingly important, and put focus back on the one and only Showstopper.

Excellent point my friend. HBK has done it all. I think to give him a lengthy title run like his first title reign will prove justified. As far as potiental candidates for his final match, of course HHH would be the obvious fit. I would also like to see HBK Vs. The Rock. Only because it was a very anticipated feud and that the two really dont' like each other and never faced each other. I would love to see the two biggest egos face off and i think it would be even better if they were both heels as well. Just to add i would love to see HBK Vs. AJ Styles. Maybe not as a final but I'm just throwing that out there.

[ecwaufisxtreme]

Shawn's last match should be jobbing to Jeff Hardy. It is said that Jeff is going to be the next Shawn Michaels, so having Jeff beat Shawn is a symbol of passing the torch from Showstopper to Showstopper.

[DeadmanInc.]

I think his final match should be against Undertaker in a Streak vs Career match at Wrestlemania. Though I think it's a little early for Michaels to retire, WM25 would be the best place. WWE has teased about a future match between them in two consecutive Royal Rumbles, both of them are from Texas, and both of them are arguably the best veterans left in the company. It would really set a standard for the younger talent.

[TheOneBigWill]

Mr Kennedy - Has A LOT of potential at being huge. I think he's defiately going to be face of the comapny in a few years time. I think the odds on Kennedy ending his career are dependant on when Shawn does decide to retire. If it's Wrestlemania 25, I definately don't think he has a chance. However if it's closer to Wrestlemania 30, I could see him doing this. Not only would it further push his career in the right direction, it would also instantly give him a hall of fame name, if he wasn't aslready at that stage.

I hope you're seriously kidding. I mean this is blatant ego feeding to Kennedy marks. There is no way Shawn Michaels would be high on Kennedy ending his career, or being his last match. And if you think it'll happen, you're just as crazy as they are.

You being the biggest H.B.K. fan I know, should know from Shawn Michaels himself that he'd want to go out with a bang, not a fizzle. Mr. Kennedy, "next big thing" or not, is no where near 'bang quality' for Shawn Michaels.

Now as much as I'd love to see John Morrison vs. Shawn Michaels, I'd be just as naive as Kennedy marks, to think that would be H.B.K.'s last possible match. So I'm going to also say, you hit the nail on the head with..

Triple H.: They're best friends and pretty much 'equal' to each other in the W.W.E. Shawn would want Triple H. to be his last match, as they've put on truly great matches each time they step in the ring. Furthermore, almost like Ric Flair, Shawn Michaels won't want some up-and-comer or random guy to be his last match.. he'll want it to be someone who won't gain from it completely, but can hold it in his list of achivements.

H.H.H. v. Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania "??" will be more than likely a HUGE draw for H.B.K.'s final match.

OR, if they don't go with Shawn Michaels v. Undertaker at next year's Wrestlemania, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if at one Mania within the next 5 years they do indeed go with H.B.K. v. Taker, in some type of career match at Wrestlemania. Infact, that would sell bigger than ANY Wrestlemania ever. Because it'll be the Show-Stopper of Wrestlemania's vs. the guy who's undefeated at them.

[acma18]

As a big Shawn Michaels fan, there is only one person I would want him to have his final match against and that would be Triple H. Because of their outside friendship, they have great chemistry in the ring and HBK could actually win because a loss for Triple H wouldn't hurt him. I don't think he would have a problem with putting someone over for his final match, but I would rather him go out next to someone that is at least close to his equal.

[xmoshx]

i would love to see shawn michaels last match at wrestlemania vs the undertaker they could make a big build up mr wrestlemania vs the streak and in a match that big no titles wouldnt have to be involved. or it could be against triple h in a classic like they did at summer slam or vince can throw a curveball and have bret hart vs shawn michaels as the main even of wrestlemania

[kieran_devlin]

Controversial as it seems id like to have Bret Hart his nemesis come back for one match.

It would be cool to have him win it at WM and vacate the title on Raw the next day. Then they could do a Shawn Michaels tribute Tournament for the title.

Id have Shawn win another Royal Rumble before he retires at the least because he is the master of the Rumble, skinning the cat was invented by him and when he won the rumble like that it went down in history.

It would be cool if Shawn went on full time to mentor and train talent for the WWE.

It would be cool to have Shawn fight at No way out as DX for one final time possibly fight HHH for the WWE title as his last match.
Either that or have Stone Colds one last match be with Shawn Michaels.

Id love to see him fight Undertaker in another match tho.

[italyanstallyan]

Now that I think about it. I like a lot of your ideas. I'd still stick with Shawn announcing his retirement a year before it happens. Shawn wins King of the Ring and goes on to win the WWE Championship at Summer Slam. A lot of the guys in the back talk about who is going to be the one to end Shawn Michaels' final title reign. A lot of them try but Shawn pulls out a victory every time. Royal Rumble comes around and Triple H wins. Shawn talks about how he always hoped his last match would be against Triple H and that no matter what, they will always be friends. After a long and hard fought battle, Shawn comes away with the win. He hits the Sweet Chin Music out of nowhere and falls on Triple H for the 3-count. After the match, they hug and celebrate in the ring together. The next night on Raw, they throw a ceremony for HBK and Shawn thanks everyone for the memories. The title is then vacated and put up for grabs in a 6 man ladder match at Backlash. The competitors are decided in the preceding weeks before Backlash.

[Canadian Knight]

Hmm almost sounds like how another wrestler was going to spend his last night. I would say that they would more then likely have HHH face him since they are friends. However I say HHH win the belt and none of this give the belt because Bret Hart wanted to do that but Vince did not trust him.

[Sparky]

Hmm almost sounds like how another wrestler was going to spend his last night. I would say that they would more then likely have HHH face him since they are friends. However I say HHH win the belt and none of this give the belt because Bret Hart wanted to do that but Vince did not trust him.

But shawn aint leaving to tna we are talking about his final match there is a major differance. the match you are talking about was brets final match in the WWE/WWF not retiring match and vince thought he would disgrace the belt. that is the reason He deserves the title in his last match.
Shawn's last match will be a talking point for years afterwards. id like to see marty jannety come back for one of shawns last matches and compete for tag team gold once more, Marty wasnt a good singles wrestler but back in the day the midnight rockers was the best tag team out. could you imagine a
H.B.K vs Bret hart for his final match? i would love to see that again.

[HBK-aholic]

Lmao. Sorry, but Bret Hart is NOT participating in Shawns last match. No way, no how. Shawn Michaels has made no secret of the fact he dislikes Brets style, and even his abilities. Their feud is world famous, and even though for the fans as a piece of memrobillia almost, it would be good to see, it would completely disrespect Shawn. He would never want his last match to be with Bret.

As I've said before, the honour will probably go to HHH. The two are great friends and also have a very..colourful history. And I think the only way fans could see HBK V HHH again, would be in a retirement match.

[TomSmithUK]

It's got to be Wrestlemania, I don't know whoa against, but it should be the top heel, whoever that may be.

Ironman rules, for the title.

0-0, time running down, Heel puts HBK in the Sharpshooter, Michaels hangs on until the buzzer. Tie. Heel reliquinshes the hold. HBK is broken, announcement made that we're in overtime. Heel measures HBK for finisher, HBK gets up, turns round immediately nails the Sweet Chin Music. 1-2-3. Biggest pop ever

[FOTH 3:16]

I personally think Shawn should win the belt at WrestleMania 25 or 26.Then the night after Mania he announces he retires,no matter what,at Mania next year.Hopefully he will be on RAW with one guy:HHH.He defends his belt and retains against these people in this order:
Backlash:Chris Jericho
Judgement Day:Mr. Kennedy
ONS:Edge-TLC match
Night of Champions-Matt Hardy
GAB:Kane
SummerSlam:EC:HHH/C.M Punk/Elijah Burke/Kane/Carlito
Unforgiven:Carlito
No Mercy:Elijah
Cyber Sunday:C.M Punk
Survivor Series:MVP
Armageddon:Jeff Hardy
RR:John Morrison(HHH eliminates Taker to win Rumble)
No Way Out:J.Hardy/Morrison-ladder match(Taker and HHH have a match to see who gets the Mania title shot and there is a draw)
So the next night on Raw its determined that Taker will come to RAW and there will be a triple threat title match at Mania w/ HHH,HBK,and Taker.It will be a three-way last man standing match.About 40-45 minute into the Mania match HHH hits Taker three times with a chair followed up with a sledgehammer shot.Then HBK hits Sweet Chin Music on the Game.None of the three men can answer the three count.That way we can have a match between Taker and the Game for the title at Backlash,Taker's streak doesn't end,and Michaels can end his career with the two men who everybody wants him to end it with and he can end his career with a show-stopping match.And technically nobody ended his career show we don't have to see a fued like Batista and HBK's.

[TheOneBigWill]

Lmao. Sorry, but Bret Hart is NOT participating in Shawns last match. No way, no how. Shawn Michaels has made no secret of the fact he dislikes Brets style, and even his abilities. Their feud is world famous, and even though for the fans as a piece of memrobillia almost, it would be good to see, it would completely disrespect Shawn. He would never want his last match to be with Bret.

I wouldn't be so quick to judge, or jump the gun on this. I mean, there is definately no way Bret Hart v. Shawn Michaels will ever happen again. Bret Hart is simply and completely unable to wrestle again, ever. His stroke and black-outs are the main reason for that. However....

Would it be so out of the loop to have Shawn Michaels gets incredibly screwed over in his farewell match? I mean, H.B.K. LOVES controversy, he LOVES whenever the spotlight is completely on him for all the right and wrong reasons. And the Bret Hart issue, good, bad or in-different. H.B.K. I can almost guarantee you.. loved every minute of the spotlight he got off it. He might hate the backlash of it, but he loved the attention, I'm sure. Its (even as you've said) made him "world famous."

So, with all that being known.. would it be so out of the loop, out of the question to shock the wrestling world in such a way thats never been done since honestly 1997.. and have Bret Hart come from the crowd, during a match in which if H.B.K. loses, he "must" retire, and have Hart blast Shawn with some type of object.. resulting in him losing, at the hands of Bret Hart.

The STORYLINES that could come from such an event. The backlash, the hype and the shear "WTF" type of shock every wrestling fan around the world would get.. everyone would want H.B.K. to return the instant he lost, because he lost unjustly. And everyone would LOVE (even in hating it) to see Bret Hart become the reason, on why H.B.K. was "forcefully retired."

I mean, lets face it.. how many wrestlers do you know, that've retired willingly, without having a "comeback" match. Terry Funk is horrible with the shit. Foley did it. Flair I'm sure will, or rather technically already has in 1993-4, Hogan's unofficially done it. Its more than likely, barring a career-ending injury.. no "last match" will ever be a wrestler's "last match." So why not make H.B.K.'s "retirement match" that of shock and awe?

[PDecicco]

In my perfect world Shawn's last match is a ladder match against Scott Hall or HBK, Hunter, Hall, Nash and X-Pac vs some 5 man team in a Survivor Series match where HBK gets the win for the team as the sole survivor. And then after the match the Kliq runs out for a final curtain call.

But my world's not perfect :(

It'll most likely be HHH at a WrestleMania in some form of a gimmick match to end a storyline. And honestly I'd expect Hunter to win after a hard fought battle. To me Shawn Michaels isn't the guy who leaves while he's on top, he leaves when he nothing left to give. And if he's winning, he still has more to give. IMO, anyway.

[TheOneBigWill]

In my perfect world Shawn's last match is a ladder match against Scott Hall or HBK, Hunter, Hall, Nash and X-Pac vs some 5 man team in a Survivor Series match where HBK gets the win for the team as the sole survivor. And then after the match the Kliq runs out for a final curtain call.

But my world's not perfect :(

Well, your world might not be perfect but at least from the sounds of it, it has a subscription to W.W.E. on Demand. :lmao:

It'll most likely be HHH at a WrestleMania in some form of a gimmick match to end a storyline. And honestly I'd expect Hunter to win after a hard fought battle. To me Shawn Michaels isn't the guy who leaves while he's on top, he leaves when he nothing left to give. And if he's winning, he still has more to give. IMO, anyway.

If Triple H. is Shawn Michaels' final opponent in his career, I just do not see H.B.K. losing the match. H.H.H. & H.B.K. are the best of friends. Triple H. has already defeated Shawn Michaels more times than H.B.K.'s defeated H.H.H., so I'd see the match being Ric Flair/H.B.K. like in both men having a tremendous match, albeit without the "you lose, you must retire" bit.. and in the end, H.B.K. wins at Wrestlemania, then thanks the fans for a wonderful ride, hugs H.H.H. and thats that.

[Cowboy]

i think one way to give shawn the kind of send-off he deserves and has earned, while making the most out of his retirement for the business itself, could be to have everybody doubt his ability to be the showstopper again, have him be seen as a guy who should retire cos he can't do it anymore... then have HBK say he knows he is old but he knows that deep down he can still be the man he always was and he will prove everyone wrong...then out of nowhere have him win the royal rumble...then claim that if he doesnt win the title he would retire...and after a great match, he loses and retires...a graceful way to go out, on top, and making a new star and putting someone over in true HBK fashion. As an alternative the same storyline could be attached to HBK winning the WWE title in an elimination chamber type of situation, then saying he will retire if he ever loses the belt...then at wrestle mania he does, and goes out on top.

[Kortex]

Nah.. if it s next year, Micheals should retire against Undertaker at Wrestemania!!!
So Shawn beats Taker for the belt in a LMS match and ends Takers streak at the same time...
It would be awesome!! Marc and Shawn are the longest active wrestlers in WWE now... I m sure Callaway would nt mind Shawn ending his streak.. if it will ever ends...

[Dalkonian]

i think one way to give shawn the kind of send-off he deserves and has earned, while making the most out of his retirement for the business itself, could be to have everybody doubt his ability to be the showstopper again, have him be seen as a guy who should retire cos he can't do it anymore... then have HBK say he knows he is old but he knows that deep down he can still be the man he always was and he will prove everyone wrong...then out of nowhere have him win the royal rumble...then claim that if he doesnt win the title he would retire...and after a great match, he loses and retires...a graceful way to go out, on top, and making a new star and putting someone over in true HBK fashion. As an alternative the same storyline could be attached to HBK winning the WWE title in an elimination chamber type of situation, then saying he will retire if he ever loses the belt...then at wrestle mania he does, and goes out on top.

Best Storylines I've read for Shawn's farewell so far. Either way would be awesome to watch what happens through the entire way through...and you would want to watch...just to see what Shawn would do next just to hang on. Awesome awesome ideas.

[Jan Vennegor of Hesselink]

I'd like to see him actually put a younger guy over for once, seen as though all he's done for his career his hold them down. It should be Mr. Kennedy, this guy just needs a big break, and this could be it, ending HBK's career, possibly in his home state at WM25, after this he could go into a feud with HHH which is a pretty logical choice.

That being said, it will most likely be HHH, and it'll be the exact same scenario of HBK vs Flair this year, which will be boring, and I'll probably fast forward it again.

But to be honest, HBK's last match can't come soon enough.

[Saiquan]

I'd like to see him actually put a younger guy over for once, seen as though all he's done for his career his hold them down. It should be Mr. Kennedy, this guy just needs a big break, and this could be it, ending HBK's career, possibly in his home state at WM25, after this he could go into a feud with HHH which is a pretty logical choice.


Are you serious? If i didn't have a life i would tell you that shawn michaels has put over Jeff Hardy, Mr.Kennedy, Batista, and the list goes on. The shawn michaels i know and have personally met because he lives in my hometown has put over plenty of people and just from talking to him isn't an as**ole like Triple H.

That being said I really don't like talking about HBK's final match because it sends chills down my spine. But in 1 billion years when it finally happens would like it to be a passing down the torch storyline. Say he wins against his opponent at wrestlemania just barely. Then the next night on raw when he has his ric flair moment the opponent from mania comes out and shawn say's "It took the showstopper, the headliner, and mr.wrestlemania to beat you last night, therefore you are one of the hardest oppnenets i've had in a while, and in my eyes you are the man." That would be amazing in my oppinion

[TheOneBigWill]

I'd like to see him actually put a younger guy over for once, seen as though all he's done for his career his hold them down. It should be Mr. Kennedy, this guy just needs a big break, and this could be it, ending HBK's career, possibly in his home state at WM25, after this he could go into a feud with HHH which is a pretty logical choice.

Are you seriously kidding me? Luther, you sound like a n00b. Its no wonder you rarely post in the wrestling section. Hes always holding down the younger talent. Hes never giving anyone their due when they're young and up-in-coming. Seriously.. do you read this crap outta a n00b book, or is your mind just loaded with the stuff?

Shawn Michaels was the first "victim" of the Legend Killer, when Randy Orton was still nothing more than a "new comer" that hadn't yet made a name for himself. Randy Orton was nothing and a nobody, and he defeated Shawn Michaels on a Pay Per View, not once, but several times throughout the beginning of this career.

Don't even get me started on the countless times Shawn Michaels has sold the shit outta Shane McMahon being anything decent, not to mention all the times during the McMahon feud that H.B.K. jobbed to the Spirit Squad. Even Triple H. never did that.

But lets not stop there, shall we? Because maybe you don't yet believe me. Mr. Kennedy defeated Shawn Michaels already. Christian back when they were building him as a single's star in the Intercontinental division, defeated Shawn Michaels. Chris Jericho, Rey Mysterio, Chris flippin' Masters, Kurt Angle, Carlito, the list literally can and does go on.

Shawn Michaels has laid down and put over major names when they were nothing and noone. You're just being naive and blinded by stupidity to accept it. Why? Because all you wish to see is Shawn Michaels being what he is.. a BIG NAME at the TOP of the company. I bet in your mind hes still undefeated, accept for when hes lost to Triple H. too, isn't he?

Seriously Luther. I'll respect that you believe this, but not without making the opinion look like complete crap.. because honestly, whether hes "held down" people in the past, present or future.. hes put over enough names in between as well, that it really evens the shit out.

That being said, it will most likely be HHH, and it'll be the exact same scenario of HBK vs Flair this year, which will be boring, and I'll probably fast forward it again.

Then do it. But don't assume, because even the Ric Flair/H.B.K. match wasn't boring. And to be quite honest, it was one of the best Ric Flair matches within the passed 8 or more years. Just because you have a personal issue against Shawn Michaels, doesn't mean that everything he does is wrong.. and nothing he can do is right.

I guarantee you his final match, if announced in the same light as Ric Flair's (to where people know its coming) will get HUGE fan fare and people will downright be heartbroken (no pun intended) when he leaves the company for good. Ric Flair may be a legend, but Shawn Michaels has definately not just walked into the business yesterday. He'll go out the same way, with as much, if not more ovation.

[Golden Standard]

Oh so now this is a Ric Flair ripoff have Shanw retire at WM come on. He can retire at any ppv now and it will still be a great moment. Why have him end Taker's winning streak. That is part of Taker's legacy he will retire unbeaten at WM. Have him go out as world champion beating out old time friend and rival HHH for the wwe championship. And by the way HBK has put over younger talent alot on his wwe career.

[HBK-aholic]

I hope you're seriously kidding. I mean this is blatant ego feeding to Kennedy marks. There is no way Shawn Michaels would be high on Kennedy ending his career, or being his last match. And if you think it'll happen, you're just as crazy as they are.

You being the biggest H.B.K. fan I know, should know from Shawn Michaels himself that he'd want to go out with a bang, not a fizzle. Mr. Kennedy, "next big thing" or not, is no where near 'bang quality' for Shawn Michaels.

Now as much as I'd love to see John Morrison vs. Shawn Michaels, I'd be just as naive as Kennedy marks, to think that would be H.B.K.'s last possible match.

You never know what will happen with Kennedy in 5 years time, which is when I said Kennedy would be an option. In 5 years Kennedy could be huge. I love the guy, so call me a Kennedy mark if you like, but he has a hell of a lot of potential; something I haven't seen in a while on that scale. In 5 years time Kennedy could be the best in the company, so to speak, maybe viewed such as someone like Cena is now. It's not definite but you've seen his fan following, it's definitely an option.

[Golden Standard]

John Morrison is nice and could be a hugh star him damn self in the next couple of years. I would love to see him feud with HBK but HBK would like to go out with a bang and feud against someone on his level. That someone being HHH old time friends and rivals compete one last time with the wwe championship on the line. HBK wins and goes out as wwe champion.

[HBK-aholic]

I don't understand why people want Shawn to win the WWE championship in his last match. It'd mean nothing. The champion doesn't make a belt great, the feuds and matches and defences do. Shawn would have none of that. He'd win the belt but we'd never remember it properly as it wouldn't mean anything.

I think Shawn does deserve the belt yes, but not on his last match. Hedeserves it for a few months at least, having good feuds, meaningful feuds, and matches which we could watch forever. He deserves a title reign which will always be remembered as one of the best.

The belt is already losing prestige. We need to increase that again, and the way to do it is not to throw it on anyone for them to leave the next day.

[jmt225]

I don't understand why people want Shawn to win the WWE championship in his last match. It'd mean nothing. The champion doesn't make a belt great, the feuds and matches and defences do. Shawn would have none of that. He'd win the belt but we'd never remember it properly as it wouldn't mean anything.

I think Shawn does deserve the belt yes, but not on his last match. Hedeserves it for a few months at least, having good feuds, meaningful feuds, and matches which we could watch forever. He deserves a title reign which will always be remembered as one of the best.

The belt is already losing prestige. We need to increase that again, and the way to do it is not to throw it on anyone for them to leave the next day.

At first I didn't agree with this, but thinking about it, his last title run was such a joke that I wouldn't mind him having one more run with the belt. As long as he didn't feud with HHH over it, I think I would enjoy it for the most part.

Anyway, as far as HBK's last match is concerned, if it were up to me, it'd be against Brian Kendrick at a Wrestlemania. Sort of a Teacher vs. Student type of deal, after a very long storyline. The match and feud would be beyond epic IMO. It pisses me off to no end how bad they're wasting Kendrick and London.

[Canadian Knight]

For his final match it should be important, like for the belt, but is is unneccessary. I don't think he deserves the belt and I especially don't think that he deserves to retire as champ. I think he and Undertaker at Wrestlemania sounds good. Have the match close but let Undertaker win and keep his streak. It would be a nice match for him to have and nicely remembered then some other last matches of other wrestlers.

[Shocky]

Then do it. But don't assume, because even the Ric Flair/H.B.K. match wasn't boring. And to be quite honest, it was one of the best Ric Flair matches within the passed 8 or more years. Just because you have a personal issue against Shawn Michaels, doesn't mean that everything he does is wrong.. and nothing he can do is right.

I guarantee you his final match, if announced in the same light as Ric Flair's (to where people know its coming) will get HUGE fan fare and people will downright be heartbroken (no pun intended) when he leaves the company for good. Ric Flair may be a legend, but Shawn Michaels has definately not just walked into the business yesterday. He'll go out the same way, with as much, if not more ovation.

Flair vs. HBK was boring. Flair was sucking wind and looked out of it five minutes into the match. The "Chain Wrestling" spot was some of the most atrocious stuff I've seen in the ring in a long time. Being one of Ric Flair's best matches in the last 8 years isn't saying much, because Ric Flair was just above the borderline of shit since his return to the WWE.

Granted HBK's final match will be met with huge fanfare, but outside of the core WWE crowd, no one will give a shit. Hell Ric Flair's obvious retirement was enough to get people to buy Wrestlemania 24 like they did for Mania 23.

HBK should retire, and retire fairly soon in my opinion. What else is there for him to do accept for take the spot of someone else that is trying to come up the ladder. I feel the same way about Undertaker, Kane and Triple H. It's long past time these guys stepped aside and allowed other guys the spotlight.

In a perfect world, HBK puts over a young guy while it still means a damn to beat HBK, but as Luth said, in all likely hood it will be a crap match against Triple H.

[S.B. Anderson]

Before Shanw Retires i just want to see him together with all his buds in a match (I know given the state of them ie Hall and the fact nash is on tna) its unlikely to happen but i would love it.

Shawn together one last time with Nash, Hall, HHH,X pac would be great.

As for his last match i suspect that only one man is in line for that accolade and that will be HHH, at the biggest show in wrestling Wrestlemania.

[Kortex]

UNDERTAKER!!!! And since they are rumors of having him returning on Raw as the guy who caused Vince McMahons accident so he would be reinstalled... that would be awesome!!! WRESTLEMANIA 25 (TEXAS, both guys homes), Taker vs HBK, career vs streak and Shawn wins... ends Takers streak and then retires the next night on Raw... Or Taker wins... Streak intact and Shawn retires next night on Raw!!!!

[Greg Grimes]

Good looks to a lot of you... Great ideas, some just retarted. Personally I think that Micheals should get one more run with the title, not a very long one, but a respected one. Have win it as a conisedence, and have Vince FURIOUS about it. Have him win it 3 months before a wrestlemania, either 25 or 26. Then have Vince just throwing match after match of big names like, Jerhico, Cena, Orton, JBL, even some younger guys, Morrison (would be unbelievable) Kenndy, Micheals vs Benjaim at survior serious was a SICK match, (NOT PUNK) but people who would just be able to have a good match.

Just keep having Vince throw people at him every week let everyone get a match with the lengenday HBK in a short period, that way its a repected, strong, yet short title run. Then come wrestlemania have Undertaker or Triple H come in and either or should cut a promo of something like. "Shawn your times up ole pal. Come wrestlemania, I am going to be your Final Test.
That way....
A. Undertaker keeps his record -OR- B. Trips ends his career as his best friend.

C. Shawn gets a ovation out of this world, and to a worthy opponet.

D. Shawn goes out without the belt, letting Bret Hart not suffer another blow to his pride by a company that gave him so much and took so much away.

[The Champ is here]

In my opion Shawn Michaels only has two maybe three possiable Storylines for his retirement match.

1. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H -long time realtionship best of friends who wants to C whos best.

2. Shawn Michaels Vs. Future WWE Main Event superstar. -He has the belt, loses the match and Hands over the belt to a future wwe superstar then says: "it's your turn kid your now Mr. Wrestlemania, the showstopper. Passing of the torch

3. Shawn michaels vs. Vince or Shane Mcmahon -The best performer vs.The Boss, maybe the biggest Rivalvary on screen and off screen in sports Entertainment history comes to an end?

4. Shawn michaels vs. The Rock -1st time ever, arguably the two best overall sports entertainer goes head to head to See who is the supreme best. The Rock would be Heel and lose to Shawn Michaels.

Shawn Michaels is my favorite superstar -since the rock retired- i Hope he goes down as the Best performer wrestler in history. "no dis to Bret hart or Kurt Angle"

[kingrko]

Well, I guess we can all say we can see this coming in the somewhat near future, though we don't want to.(Also similar to Undertaker's career.) But I'm agreeing with the idea that Shawn win an insane match at Wrestlemania that's not for the title, but is given the main event slot, (Though that might kind've be a slap to the face ot Ric Flair.) Before WM he needs a good lengthy title reign, against popular opponents, and if he's willing, go against some of the younger guys who wanna wrestle HBK before he reitres. This would help elevate, "The Next Generation" I guess you could say. I'm only posting on this thread once, because all I need to say that I have alll the respect in the world for the The Icon, The Main Event, The Showstopper, The Heart Break Kid... Shawn Michales.

[IC25]

Ok, let me throw a few scenarios out then.

1. Lance Cade. If Cade gains enough serious steam to become a main-event level talent, it would be just like Shawn to put over his pupil. Shawn could go out well, but what a shot in the arm for his young student to retire the Showstopper! Now, I would not hold this match at Wrestlemania - I'd do it at Royal Rumble, and for two reasons: 1. It gives Cade legit steam going INTO Royal Rumble, 2) it allows a retiring Shawn Michaels to have a "farewell match" against a HHH or John Cena, with Shawn getting the win to go out on top.

2. The Undertaker. Check this out. A Best out of 3 falls match between two of the biggest Wrestlemania performers of all time. Loser retires, winner gets a title shot. Taker wins the first fall to put Shawn on the ropes, but Shawn wins the 2nd fall to become the first man in history to score a fall on The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Then, Taker wins the 3rd fall, and still stays undefeated at Wrestlemania, thus keeping the overall streak alive. I'd obviously wonder if that'd be as asterisk to the Taker streak, but I think it'd be AWESOME booking.

[klunderbunker]

Ok, let me throw a few scenarios out then.

1. Lance Cade. If Cade gains enough serious steam to become a main-event level talent, it would be just like Shawn to put over his pupil. Shawn could go out well, but what a shot in the arm for his young student to retire the Showstopper! Now, I would not hold this match at Wrestlemania - I'd do it at Royal Rumble, and for two reasons: 1. It gives Cade legit steam going INTO Royal Rumble, 2) it allows a retiring Shawn Michaels to have a "farewell match" against a HHH or John Cena, with Shawn getting the win to go out on top.

2. The Undertaker. Check this out. A Best out of 3 falls match between two of the biggest Wrestlemania performers of all time. Loser retires, winner gets a title shot. Taker wins the first fall to put Shawn on the ropes, but Shawn wins the 2nd fall to become the first man in history to score a fall on The Undertaker at Wrestlemania. Then, Taker wins the 3rd fall, and still stays undefeated at Wrestlemania, thus keeping the overall streak alive. I'd obviously wonder if that'd be as asterisk to the Taker streak, but I think it'd be AWESOME booking.

Not wild on the Cade scenario. The story of student vs. teacher is a good idea, but hearing Lance Cade being the guy that gets a big win over one of the best in ring performers of all time just doesn't do it for me. That could change, but it would take one of the best career turnarounds of all time in a very short time.

Now the Undertaker one, that would be sweet. To have Taker win the first fall would bring about this sense that Michaels was going to be just another victim on Taker's win streak. To have him land an unexpected superkick for a quick 3 would send myself, and possibly the rest of the audience into stunned shock. Imagine: Taker getting pinned at Wrestlemania? I know people around here tend to say that it's overrated, but it's just like Hulk Hogan. People talk down about him all the time, but when it comes around again, people mark out like crazy. Michaels getting the win over him, even just 1 in a 2/3 falls match, would be simply epic.

On a side note, Shawn is constantly sees as a WM legend, but his overall record there is only 6 wins and 9 losses.

[Mr. TM]

I can see it now. who are some of Shawn Michaels biggest enemies? One might be Vince McMahon. Remember when Shawn jumped from the heavens with his buddy G to the od onto Vince and sent him to hell at WrestleMania 22? The next year Vince McMahon and his infamous partner were separated. I say we push that partner to the fullest extend possible. I'm not talking about Umaga, I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about... His Hair! Wrestlemania 26 is on the horizon, after Michaels was pumbled by Undertaker the spring before, Michaels is back and hes here to prove something. Triple H then comes out, also recently pumbled at WrestleMania in a compete for the WWE presidency fight (which is where the Vince McMahon's new storyline is going) by Hornswoggle. Trips says to Shawn to quit bitching, he is so sick of it. If Shawn Michaels is soo sick of losing, he should just leave the WWE. Shawn then reminds Triple H that he himself isn't on a winning streak himself. Hornswoggle comes out and says he wants them to shut up, and with his new power, he has the ability to make any new matches he wants to. Right here tonight, Whoever loses will have to retire tonight. The match starts out with some heavy shots, with Triple H having the advantage. Shawn Michaels then hits the thuper kick, as they both fall to the ground. the ref counts to 10, and they are both counted out. After the commercial break, Hornswoggle has come up with an idea. They will both have an opportunity to save their jobs. They must each win their own matches tonight. The beginning of the next hour, its Triple H vs the entire Raw Roster. Triple H is grinded to the ground, but fights break out between the rivals on Raw, and the fight spreads out to the outside. Triple H his the pedigree on Colin Delaney for the win. Shawn is up in the main event. His match is against all the WWE Champions (WWE- Edge, US- Carlito, WWETT- The Hardys, World- Orton, WorldTT DH Smith/TJ Wilson, IC- Chris Jericho, ECW- John Morrison). When Morrison goes for the pin, The Miz comes out to hit him with a chair. Due to the DQ, the next week on Raw, Hornswoggle has made up his mind, he will have to win all of his matches from now on, in non disqualification matches, or be fired. In the mean time, Cats are been found dead, suffocated around the buildings raw is at. Police are called to the ring to question the crowd. Hornswoggle works with the authorities, and he believes its an inside job. He senses an evil presence he hasn't felt since Vince McMahon was here. That spring, the problem continues until into January. From the rafters at the Royal Rumble, something is found in the rafters. It comes down ala Shawn Michaels via the grapple after Shawn has pinned Snitsky. The audiences gets to see what a year of buildup has brought us. In the ring with Shawn Michaels stands, Vince McMahon...'s hair. It has been watching Shawn, and knows its either him or Michaels. At NWO, In a match between Michaels and Kane, The hair hits Shawn Michaels over the head with a sombrero. Kane goes for the pin, and miraculously, Shawn Kicks out. He then hits the super kick on Kane for the 3 count. Shawn demands Vince's Hair at Wrestlemania, Hair vs Career match. The match starts out with all the anticipation of the Hogan Andre match 23 years before. The match is back and forth, until the hair puts on a sleeper. He goes to the outside, and Michaels is hitting him with everything to try and keep him down. into the fans hes goes, pop and beer is flying everywhere. they are covered in the stuff. they get back into the ring, and Michaels goes for the super kick. Hair doges it, and gets the sleeper going again. Michaels is on the mat. The hair goes up to the top, going for the flying headbutt. He Connects! But wait, he is stuck! Michaels bald spot is covered, for the 1-2-3. and hes is forced to retire. The next night on Raw he gets a retirement party, where he able to show the world, he has hair again! He retires happily in his home in SA, Texas

[Abe]

Around December/January Shawn Michaels announces to the world that he will have his final match at WrestleMania XXV. In February WWE starts announcing the Hall of Fame class of 2009. The first person announced is Shawn. The next is Stone Cold Steve Austin. So we have two Texans, who are two of the all time greats, getting inducted into the Hall of Fame the night before WrestleMania.

February 23rd Stone Cold makes an appearance on Raw to cut a promo on the Hall of Fame. Half way through the promo Shawn makes his way down to the ring. Shawn gives his congrats to Austin for the Hall of Fame. Shawn then looks at Austin and challenges him for a match, his final match at
WrestleMania XXV. Austin looks to the crowd... but then Shawn says: come on Steve what do you say.... re-match from WrestleMania XIV. Austin gives a HELL YEAH.... then Raw ends with Michaels and Austin standing in the ring face to face. So for the next four weeks Austin and Michaels cut promos. But they never lay a hand on each other.

On Monday March 30th, one week until WrestleMania, Mr. McMahon comes out and makes a Fatal Four Way Elimination Tag Team Match. The teams consist of the main events for WrestleMania. So its WWE Champion Edge and his challenger Triple H vs World Heavyweight Champion Randy Orton and his challenger Batista vs Undertaker and his challenger John Cena vs Stone Cold Steve Austin and his challenger Shawn Michaels. Mr. McMahon makes a stipulation. Stipulation is that if anyone gets into a fight with his tag team partner during the match will be fired on the spot. The first team gone is Orton and Batista, the second team gone is Edge and Triple H. It comes down
to Austin/Michaels and Undertaker/Cena. They fight for fifteen minutes back and forth. Finally Austin hit the Stunner on Cena 1...2...3. Winners Austin and Michaels. Austin turns around and BAM! SWEET CHIN MUSIC. Michaels drinks Austins beer and Raw goes off the air.

Stone Cold Steve Austin vs Shawn Michaels turns out to be the final match on the card at WrestleMania XXV. Before the match starts the two men have a stare down. Half the crowd for Austin and half the crowd for Michaels all you can see are flashes in the crowd. Bell rings and the match begins. The match goes for forty-five minutes... both men hit each others finishers on each other but they kick out. Shawn attempts to hit Austin with chin music but he nails the referee. Austin scores with a couple of right hands, sends Michaels to the ropes, Austin swings for a close line and Michaels ducks, Austin turns around and they connect with a double close line. Both men struggle to get to their feet. Austin turns around and gets nailed with a low blow by Shawn Michaels. Michaels climbs to the top rope and hits Austin with a flying elbow. Shawn goes to the corner and starts to tune up the band one more time with sweet chin music. Austin gets to his feet and backs up, Shawn goes for it and Austin ducks it and goes for the stunner but Michaels counters and Michaels goes for the kick, Austin grabs Shawns leg and spins him around and hit the stunner. Austin hooks the leg 1....2....3. AUSTIN WINS.

Austin celebrates in typical fashion with beer. This lasts for four minutes, Shawn gets to his feet and stares down Austin and then extends his hand out to Austin and Austin shakes his hand. The ppv ends

[DXolicfan]

My ideia It's 2009 Wrestlemania 25 Shawn Michaels recently won the World Heavyweight Championship from John Cena in a steel Cage. The next night on Raw Shawn announces that at Wrestlemania this year he will be competing on his final match. Then sundenly Triple H's music begins to play. Triple H comes out and saying Shawn I would love to face you on your last match. Royal Rumble Shawn Michaels faces Cena one last time retaining the belt. In the same night Triple H wins the Royal Rumble. The night after the Royal Rumble they announce that Shawn Michaels has been inducted to the WWE Hall of Fame by HHH. In that same night Triple H comes out cutting a promo saying that at Wrestlemania he wants Shawn for the World Heavyweight Championship in Shawn's last match. Afterwards Shawn accepts it. At No Way Out Triple H and Shawn reaform DX one last time to face WWE Champion Undertaker and Jeff Hardy who is Taker's number one contender at Wrestlemania. Taker and Hardy win the match after suprisely Triple H hits a Pedigree on Shawn leaving him down. The following night Triple H explains his actions by saying that when it's about the World Heavyweight Championship there are no friends Shawn comes from beyend and hits Sweet Chin Music.

At Wrestlemania Shawn faces Triple H in a high competitive match. In the end Shawn wins after hitting Sweet Chin Music. The following Raw Shawn has a goodbye party and Vince lets him give the title to someone. He then chooses Triple H.

[John87]

id like to see Jericho retire Michaels like Michaels retired Flair. Flair was his idol and HBK is Jericho's idol. yes this feud has been done before and is happening now but its just maybe that would be interesting to see because Y2J idolized him as a youngster and what better way for HBK to go out by finally being successed? hes gone through many superstars and many have tryed to out-do Michaels but what if Jericho did it? It would be interesting to see them have at it again at WM anyways just cause the other WM match they had was unarguably amazing.

[mikeGALLANT]

these are all good ideas but i think shawn will win the whc before maina sometime and then Taker wins the rumble and it will be winning streak vs carrer and that would be a awesome match and as well they both come from texes

[a1n1hbk]

IMO final match of hbk should be a WM main event.The WHC UnderTaker "Who never lost on this stage" Vs Mr. WM,The ShowStopper and doesn't matter who wins both will retire but the one as WHC.
And the gimmick that HBK owns at WM he should defeat DeadMan.

[HBK-aholic]

Ok, let me throw a few scenarios out then.

1. Lance Cade. If Cade gains enough serious steam to become a main-event level talent, it would be just like Shawn to put over his pupil. Shawn could go out well, but what a shot in the arm for his young student to retire the Showstopper! Now, I would not hold this match at Wrestlemania - I'd do it at Royal Rumble, and for two reasons: 1. It gives Cade legit steam going INTO Royal Rumble, 2) it allows a retiring Shawn Michaels to have a "farewell match" against a HHH or John Cena, with Shawn getting the win to go out on top.

Srry, but completely don't agree with this. For a start, I don't think Lance Cade should be the one who ends his career. I don't think this is something any fan will really be thrilled about. It'd be a nice gesture yes, but this is the Showstopper; Shawn Michaels. The person who ends his career will also have to be legendary. He ended Flairs career. We need someone similar to end his.

Now, I'm confused from you saying Shawn would then have a match with someone else at WM. If this was so, then Cade wouldn't have retired Shawn, the other person would have. From this, it seems you're proposing a feud between Cade and Shawn. In which, if Cade ever got to that main event level would be a good idea. Cade is underrated and this would give him a serious push.

However, I think Triple H should be the one to retire Shawn, and we should know when he's going to do it. I don't think there should be any storyline such as the one with Flair. Shawn should announce his retirement one night, for a future WM.

[simpsons_fanatic742]

While I agree with you Becca that HHH should retire Shawn, I don't see that happening because he will most likely be involved in a title match don't ya think? I think Jericho could be a candidate for this match, but I don't see this fued going until WrestleMania(if Shawn's last match is going to be there). I also think maybe Randy Orton, bring the legend killer persona back maybe?

[bigdan7885]

I'm cool with a ladder match but not quite sure who he'd go against and I would definitely not want to see him lose a ladder match.

I also think it would be pretty bad ass if he lost to the sharp shooter. Imagine that.

[HBK-aholic]

I'm cool with a ladder match but not quite sure who he'd go against and I would definitely not want to see him lose a ladder match.

I also think it would be pretty bad ass if he lost to the sharp shooter. Imagine that.

No. Way. There is simply no way on this Earth that would ever happen. Can you think of any way to show more disrespect to Shawn Michaels than this? It will never happen. Shawn is a legend. He's done more for the WWE than most and that will never change. He is one of the best inr ing performers of all times, and is completely charismatic.

Shawn should win his last match. And it will be a great match, against someone who respects him. Having someone beat him with a sharpshooter would be the worst possible end to his career. Even if you hate Shawn, you have got to respect what he did for the business. This is not the way to do that.

[Slim Pickns]

No. Way. There is simply no way on this Earth that would ever happen. Can you think of any way to show more disrespect to Shawn Michaels than this? It will never happen. Shawn is a legend. He's done more for the WWE than most and that will never change. He is one of the best inr ing performers of all times, and is completely charismatic.

Shawn should win his last match. And it will be a great match, against someone who respects him. Having someone beat him with a sharpshooter would be the worst possible end to his career. Even if you hate Shawn, you have got to respect what he did for the business. This is not the way to do that.

I disagree here. I don' think Shawn should lose to the Sharpshooter, but he should go out like all the other greats did, by putting someone over. The only exception was Hogan, he put over Rock then continued to wrestle, but he's on a level Michaels can only dream about. Still, Hogan's last match was against Orton at Summerslam as a regular match.

I can't picture a finale for HBK right now, because I've never done it for anyone other than Taker (Survivor Series on his 20th anniversary). Ric Flair got his sendoff and now everyone wants the same for Shawn. Why can't we do this the traditional way? Have him retire when he wants but put someone over on the way out. What if HBK decides he wants to retire right now? Should he half ass everything so that he can wrestle HHH at Mania 25 or should he just retire now.

[HBK-aholic]

First of all, just have to find it ironic how Hogan can do something but Shawn can't. "Well Shawn has to put someone over when he goes out, like everyone else. Well except Hogan cos everyone loves him." Blah blah. Sorry, but that's wrong. You can't just use that. If "all the greats" have had to put someone over in their final match, but Hogan didn't have to, what's that exactly?

Now on to things in general. Shawn doesn't have to win his last match, no. I said in an earlier post about how one way I could see him going out was putting someone over onto the main event scene. Mr Kennedy I think I used as an example. And that would be a good idea.

But I would prefer him to win his last match, simply due to how I'd like it to play out. I'd like Shawn to announce when he was going to retire, and for us to know that was going to be his last match. For him to put someone over it'd have to be the ending of a feud between a mid-carder. Which again, wouldn't be a bad idea. But I think he should go out, like Flair, with someone who he looks up to, and who he has a lot of history with. Which is why Triple H is the first person in my mind.

[Slim Pickns]

I wasn't saying its because everyone loves Hogan. Hogan did put over Rock, which was the point of his return. However, he stayed because fans popped bigger for him than anyone, including the Rock. That is why he was exempt and thats why he's better than everyone else.

Shawn's accomplishments are exaggerated to the tenth power by the WWE and its younger fans today. Shawn had the second worst title reign of the 90's (thank you Diesel) and had the company at an all time low while he was front and center. He's vacated more titles than anyone and never proved to be a draw. Hardly someone who deserves a huge sendoff.

[HBK-aholic]

I wasn't saying its because everyone loves Hogan. Hogan did put over Rock, which was the point of his return. However, he stayed because fans popped bigger for him than anyone, including the Rock. That is why he was exempt and thats why he's better than everyone else.

That's the thing. He should be 'Exempt' from anything. If it was a 'rule' of the WWE, Hogan should have stuck to it also.

Shawn's accomplishments are exaggerated to the tenth power by the WWE and its younger fans today. Shawn had the second worst title reign of the 90's (thank you Diesel) and had the company at an all time low while he was front and center. He's vacated more titles than anyone and never proved to be a draw. Hardly someone who deserves a huge sendoff.

Are you kidding me? Honestly? Saying Shawn doesn't deserve a huge sendoff is ridiculous and completely disrespectful. This is the type of blind hate you comaplin about people having for Cena. When the truth is Shawn has done 10 times more than Cena has. I'm not saying Shawn's title reigns were amazing. If you look at most of the great matches, or matches people call great, the title isn't involved. Because the title doesn't mean anything in terms of how good a match will be between 2 people.

Shawn has had more match of the years than anyone. And don't give me any of the B.S that means nothing, as if it was a different wrestler people wouldn't say it. eople hate Shawn for whatever reason, but they forget about how to respect him. I find Hogan to be boring, but I respect his great matches, and what he did for the business.

Truth is, no matter what you think of his drawing ability, or anything similar he has had some great matches, and is a great all round wrestler. When it comes to who draws the most, as a fan, what does that matter? Vince should worry about the money, not us.

[Mighty NorCal]

Um what??? hogan has never had a "last match"...for all we fuckin know dude, can show up tonight night on RAW and whip someones ass. (I wish )

I dont think anyone is saying Shawn HAS to put someone over in his last match. I think after all he has done, he should choose someone to have his last match with. Whomever he wants, and the WWE has to write a storyline around it. In fact, i think it would be MUCH more productive to have him put young guys over for the last year or so, then pick whomever he wants, and do whatever he wants for the last hurrah. makes much more sense than some young dude getting what wont REALLY amount to much of a rub, unless it was a huge retirement angle feud. And I dont think it should be announced. He should just do it how Stone Cold did it. Just go out, have a fucking crazy match, and walk off into the sunset. It will be fairly apparent itll be the end. Just like it was then. But it takes off the big stigma off the match. I think it would make it far more enjoyable.

[Slim Pickns]

Are you kidding me? Honestly? Saying Shawn doesn't deserve a huge sendoff is ridiculous and completely disrespectful. This is the type of blind hate you comaplin about people having for Cena. When the truth is Shawn has done 10 times more than Cena has. I'm not saying Shawn's title reigns were amazing. If you look at most of the great matches, or matches people call great, the title isn't involved. Because the title doesn't mean anything in terms of how good a match will be between 2 people.

Its not blind hate. I've stated before that Shawn has put on entertaining matches, that I have thoroughly enjoyed. So have a number of other superstars. Shawn gets special treatment just for being around. I can take off the blinders for a second and acknowledge he's maybe a top ten all time, maybe. Comparing him to Cena is asinine. Cena is more than ten years younger and has already proved he can draw bigger numbers than HBK. He has ten plus years to add to his reputation before you can compare the two. That is no different than me comparing a rookie baseball player to Babe Ruth.

Shawn has had more match of the years than anyone. And don't give me any of the B.S that means nothing, as if it was a different wrestler people wouldn't say it. eople hate Shawn for whatever reason, but they forget about how to respect him. I find Hogan to be boring, but I respect his great matches, and what he did for the business.

It doesn't mean anything. The match of the year you speak of is chosen by readers from PWI. Why does reading PWI make you a better fan than someone else? It doesn't, its a newsletter internet fans get because they think they are being smart to the business. Those awards mean nothing. Also, PWI named HBK number 11 all time in 2003 while naming Hart number four. Is PWI still a credible source in your eyes?

I haven't shown disrespect for Shawn, I just am able to point out how overrated he is. I do them same when people call Bret Hart the greatest ever.

Truth is, no matter what you think of his drawing ability, or anything similar he has had some great matches, and is a great all round wrestler. When it comes to who draws the most, as a fan, what does that matter? Vince should worry about the money, not us.

Michaels has had great matches over his career. His technical wrestling is great and his promos are pretty good. However, none of his skills have made him a great draw nationwide and he has never been a worldwide draw. That shows that more people find guys like Austin, Hogan, Savage, Cena, and Bret Hart more entertaining.

[HBK-aholic]

Its not blind hate. I've stated before that Shawn has put on entertaining matches, that I have thoroughly enjoyed. So have a number of other superstars. Shawn gets special treatment just for being around. I can take off the blinders for a second and acknowledge he's maybe a top ten all time, maybe. Comparing him to Cena is asinine. Cena is more than ten years younger and has already proved he can draw bigger numbers than HBK. He has ten plus years to add to his reputation before you can compare the two. That is no different than me comparing a rookie baseball player to Babe Ruth.

People compare the 2 all the time. But at the end of the day, the only thing you're mentioning is the drawing ability of Cena over Shawn. Which he does draw more, yes. But that's not the only thing to look at. Shawn is superior in every otehr way.


It doesn't mean anything. The match of the year you speak of is chosen by readers from PWI. Why does reading PWI make you a better fan than someone else? It doesn't, its a newsletter internet fans get because they think they are being smart to the business. Those awards mean nothing. Also, PWI named HBK number 11 all time in 2003 while naming Hart number four. Is PWI still a credible source in your eyes?

Reading PWI doesn't make you a better fan. However it's fans that voted for it. Never will you get a poll or match of the year voted by everyone. It'd be the same as people from WZ choosing match of the year. It's not the whole story, but many fans obviously think that otherwise it wouldn't have won.

As for Hart being voted above Shawn, as I just said, many people may think that. I don't personally, but if that was also voted for by a selection of fans then that means that's what they think of the 2.

I haven't shown disrespect for Shawn, I just am able to point out how overrated he is. I do them same when people call Bret Hart the greatest ever.

By saying Shawn doesn't deserve a big send off, is disrespecting him.

Michaels has had great matches over his career. His technical wrestling is great and his promos are pretty good. However, none of his skills have made him a great draw nationwide and he has never been a worldwide draw. That shows that more people find guys like Austin, Hogan, Savage, Cena, and Bret Hart more entertaining.

More people may do yeah. But that has nothing to do with why Shawn can't win his last match. He's never been a great draw. But he's good at everything else. In a Top 10 of who draws the most he probably wouldn't be in it. But when it comes to a Top 10 of other things, he would be. So you can't write him off simply because he doesn't draw.

[J"rocket"Anderson]

I think the final match should be the against undertaker after the last two royal rumbles they have been teasing a fight between the two and at a wrestlemania with shawn michaels career and undertakers streak on the line that would be a great match

[Slim Pickns]

People compare the 2 all the time. But at the end of the day, the only thing you're mentioning is the drawing ability of Cena over Shawn. Which he does draw more, yes. But that's not the only thing to look at. Shawn is superior in every otehr way.

Drawing ability is the number one way to rank wrestlers. People who read a magazine may have given Shawn some awards, but people who buy merch and come to live shows have shown Cena more support than HBK. So in turn, more people would disagree Shawn is superior.

Reading PWI doesn't make you a better fan. However it's fans that voted for it. Never will you get a poll or match of the year voted by everyone. It'd be the same as people from WZ choosing match of the year. It's not the whole story, but many fans obviously think that otherwise it wouldn't have won.

As for Hart being voted above Shawn, as I just said, many people may think that. I don't personally, but if that was also voted for by a selection of fans then that means that's what they think of the 2.

By saying Shawn doesn't deserve a big send off, is disrespecting him.

More people may do yeah. But that has nothing to do with why Shawn can't win his last match. He's never been a great draw. But he's good at everything else. In a Top 10 of who draws the most he probably wouldn't be in it. But when it comes to a Top 10 of other things, he would be. So you can't write him off simply because he doesn't draw.

What are these other things? Are we talking about the famous in ring ability that no one can seem to describe? Are we talking about him being a better technical wrestler than Cena, so everyone on the internet thinks he's better? Shawn never drew because he never was nor ever will be as popular as the WWE and the internet fans make him out to be.

[HBK-aholic]

Drawing ability is the number one way to rank wrestlers. People who read a magazine may have given Shawn some awards, but people who buy merch and come to live shows have shown Cena more support than HBK. So in turn, more people would disagree Shawn is superior.

Drawing ability isn't the only way to rank wrestlers. However, I've said it before and I'll say it again, due to Shawns lack of drawing ability he'll never be officially the Number 1 wrestler. He is on many peoples personal preference lists. But he isn't in terms of McMahon and what he wants.

The thing with Shawn is, almost everyone likes him. But almost everyone also has someone they prefer to him. Which is why I don't see him as overrated. He has many fans. but very few who class him as their sole favourite.



What are these other things? Are we talking about the famous in ring ability that no one can seem to describe?

You have never had a Shawn fan describe why Shawn is so good? Well you started me off..

His in ring ability is energetic. It's original. He can make any match good, and that's something almost no one else can do. He made Flairs last match good, when he hasn't been good for the last few years at the very least. He's made a good match out of Vince McMahon. His passion for the business is shown in every single one of his matches. Everything he does in that ring is for the business and you can tell how much he loves it.



Are we talking about him being a better technical wrestler than Cena, so everyone on the internet thinks he's better?

He is a better technical wrestler than Cena, however I aren't one of the fans who thinks this soleley makes someone a good wrestler. Shawn being a better technical wrestler makes me like him more, not more than Cena, but just more in general. But that's due to my preference of technical wrestling. It's not the reason I believe Shawn is better in the world of Pro wrestling.

Shawn never drew because he never was nor ever will be as popular as the WWE and the internet fans make him out to be.

I know many people off of the internet who believe Shawn is great. I've always thought Shawn was great, before joining an online forum. There are a few people who solely use the internet to decide whether they love or hate a wrestler, but wow that happens to almost everyone.

Shawn is popular. Listen to the pop he gets when he comes out. when he wins a match. Look at the energy that comes simply from the fans. He is popular.

[Slim Pickns]

Drawing ability isn't the only way to rank wrestlers. However, I've said it before and I'll say it again, due to Shawns lack of drawing ability he'll never be officially the Number 1 wrestler. He is on many peoples personal preference lists. But he isn't in terms of McMahon and what he wants.

The thing with Shawn is, almost everyone likes him. But almost everyone also has someone they prefer to him. Which is why I don't see him as overrated. He has many fans. but very few who class him as their sole favourite.

I only see him as overrated because you can't watch a WWE DVD or program or go on this board without someone calling him the best ever. Fair enough if they want to say it, but don't expect me to sit by quietly.

You have never had a Shawn fan describe why Shawn is so good? Well you started me off..

His in ring ability is energetic. It's original. He can make any match good, and that's something almost no one else can do. He made Flairs last match good, when he hasn't been good for the last few years at the very least. He's made a good match out of Vince McMahon. His passion for the business is shown in every single one of his matches. Everything he does in that ring is for the business and you can tell how much he loves it.

What you basically just said is "I like Shawn Michaels." I used to say the same thing about Bret Hart "he can get a good match out of anyone." What that basically amounted to was I loved Hart's storytelling, selling and psychology more than anyone's. Same thing goes for you and HBK. You like HBK, he is your personal favorite for the reasons you have listed. Therefor you are probably going to enjoy his matches.

Shawn is popular. Listen to the pop he gets when he comes out. when he wins a match. Look at the energy that comes simply from the fans. He is popular.

I didn't say he wasn't popular, I said he's not as popular as the WWE announcers make him out to be. The low ratings from his title reigns would suggest I'm right.

[bunnyman1985]

i think shawn will retire in a couple of years because his knees arent like they used to be and i dont think vince sees shawn for a long term title reign or even give him the belt. although he hasnt been a heel in years i think the fans are gettin a bit bored of the face shawn michaels everyone now and again like to see a heel turn like i want batista or cena turn heel.
shawn hasnt had a title reign in years and before he retires i would like to see him fued with the undertaker one more time as they had a few classic matches in the 90s.

And i personnally wouldnt of had shawn be the last man to face ric flair. if i was vince i would of went out of my way to try and get STING to be flairs last opponent at wm24 only for the fact that flair made sting a star in wcw with his 1st wcw champion reign. and if my memory serves me right im sure it was flair v sting on the 1st nitro an agen on the last nitro so it would off been a good tribute 2 ric flair 2 have sting v flair in his last match at wm24.

now the question i want people to answer is: when the times comes and shawn announces his retire who will be his last match with????
possible opponents:
triple h
y2j
cena
batista
undertaker
vince
bret hart????
marty jannetty???
kevin nash????
scott hall????

the list is endless
lets have your views to who his last opponent would be

[Chicago2733]

As a huge of HBK fan, the day that he decides to hang it up which I hope is never. I belive that his last match should be against HHH. Just as HBK stepped up and wanted to be Flair's last match. I think HHH should be HBK's last match as a show of respect to HBK. I believe HBK deserves as big of a send off as Flair deserved. But just before his last match, I would love to see the Kliq reunited for a one time only thing. Just to show Paul Heyman what could of been!

[HBK-aholic]

i think shawn will retire in a couple of years because his knees arent like they used to be and i dont think vince sees shawn for a long term title reign or even give him the belt. although he hasnt been a heel in years i think the fans are gettin a bit bored of the face shawn michaels everyone now and again like to see a heel turn like i want batista or cena turn heel.

I disagree with this. I love heel Shawn Michaels, don't get we wrong. But how over is he with the fans? The only place I ever see people hating on him are on the internet and in Canada. And even Canadians are changing their views. My point is, he is so over with the crowd they wouldn't boo him. I know I wouldn't be able to find it in my heart to boo him.

shawn hasnt had a title reign in years and before he retires i would like to see him fued with the undertaker one more time as they had a few classic matches in the 90s.

I agree here. Shawn Vs Undertaker would be an amazing feud, and it has been teased at the Royal Rumble. And with WM in Texas this year; the home town of both these guys, who knows what could happen?

And i personnally wouldnt of had shawn be the last man to face ric flair. if i was vince i would of went out of my way to try and get STING to be flairs last opponent at wm24 only for the fact that flair made sting a star in wcw with his 1st wcw champion reign. and if my memory serves me right im sure it was flair v sting on the 1st nitro an agen on the last nitro so it would off been a good tribute 2 ric flair 2 have sting v flair in his last match at wm24.

I disagree once again. Sting would NEVER have come to the WWE. Ever. If it had have happened it wouldn't have been a disaster. But I also can't imagine a match to have had as much emotion, as the one with Shawn Michaels did. Saying Sorry to Ric before kicking him was perfect, and something no one else would have done.

[BRandonkin]

When Shawn was champ what was did the midcard look like. BRet was gone, Taker was gone selling his death, Nash Hall, and other left. The mid card sucked. Nash, nor BRet left michaels with a good following. Someone posted averages of title reigns here about a year ago. Nash averaged a 2.1, BRet a 2.3 and HBK a 2.4.

Michael third reign was the first 3.0 they had. Interesting that was DX, Undertaker and the arrival of Stone Cold Steve Austin. He had a better supporting cast at that time. Stone Cold and THe Rock were comical. IT does not mean their matches were great. It does not mean they were innovative. Outside of Bret/Austin Wrestlemania match Austin has not many memorable matches. he has a ton of memorable promos and acts, but not matches.

Hogan had Savage, Slaughter, Warrior, Andre, and so forth
Austin had Rock, Triple H, Vince, Undertaker,
HBK had Aldo Montoya, Vader, Ahmed Johnson,

One man cannot carry a company.

Cena comes in with a company that 4 and 5 and now they are down to 3. Cena is drawing the similar ratings Michael was during his third reign. Let see where Cena is in 1-2 years. By the age of 33, Michaels was a hall of famer after his matches between 92-and 98.

[Tiger Wood's Harem]

The first question is, when should Shawn retire..? He's what, 37.. 39? He has two or three years left, but, unfortunately, not much more than that. I could see Shawn going out at WM 27 or 28..

To start, Shawn is given a title shot at Survivor Series against whoever the champ is at the time. Shawn wins, of course. The next night on RAW, HBK announces his last match will be at Wrestle Mania. The fans are going to boo, of course, but he tells us that he is going to put on one great show on the way there. I can see him having frequent title defenses on RAW and fighting whoever wants that match against the Showstopper. All the younger guys want atleast one match with him, and the vets want just one more go with him. This makes for a great match on RAW every week, while boosting rating with the title defenses. At the Rumble, he and Trips have their last match against each other. I am assuming HHH is back on RAW.. HBK retains. Then, at number one in the Rumble, Taker returns. HBK watches as Taker goes from number one to win the Rumble in a dominant fashion. Shawn comes onto the ramp, clapping for Taker. Taker points at Shawn and does his whole throat slicing thing. BAM! Main Event of WM..

Shawn and Taker fight at Mania in an Ironman match. Forty Five Minutes. Shawn deserves to go out on top, but he isn't going to beat Taker. The Phenom scores the first pinfall of the match after a chokeslam through the announce table.. He rolls him back in the ring and gets the three count. The next pinfall goes to HBK.. This should be around 30 minutes. Sweet Chin Music! 1..2..3! That would be the first pinfall on the deadman at WM EVER!
Next, Taker gets a tombstone on HBK with about two minutes left. Shawn is bleeding, and gets pinned. It's 2-1 Taker.. With about 15 seconds left, HBK hits the superkick out of no where! He falls to the ground, though. Desperetly, he crawls, trying to cover taker.. With three seconds left, Hbk gets an arm over The Undertaker. The refs hand falls with two seconds left. Just before his arm falls for three, the buzzer hits. 1..2.. 2 1/2... Time runs out.. HBK is crying, laying over Taker, who is unmoving for a while. Taker is announced new champion. HBK goes out on top, being the only man to score a pinfall on Taker at WrestleMania.

On Raw, he has a sendoff just like Flair. This time, Taker comes out on air and hugs him. Perfect..

[Sparky]

I think the best way for HBK to go out is have a World title match at wrestlemania where he vows he will retire no matter what the outcome. It should be done in a hell in the cell invoroment. at the end of it they should do a curtain call incident style finish to the mans career. I know they dont do it anymore but have trips go down on a zip line to the top of the cell. at the end of a match, becouse pinfalls count anywhere have him pin the person and have trips slide down to see him off. also have the Guest referee being Ric Flair, so all three of the guys can see HBK off properly. As i said once before i dont want HBK to go ever, but it will happen at one stage lets just hope he could stay with the WWE when he does

[scotthbkmad]

Im agree with alot of earlier post that HBK's last match is a good 3-5 years away.... Having being forced out of the business in 1998, I think he will make his second big run last as long as possible...

I also think the WWE needs to keep Shawn around for as long as they can, hes undercard performances/angles with Chris Jericho are easily as entertaining and important as the World Title picture...

A Shawn Michaels vs. CM Punk feud would be real fun

In terms on HBK's last match, which I hope is at WrestleMania 46, it would have to be Triple H.... The history and everything between the 2 men, and I think it would be like there SummerSlam 2002 match, were Shawn goes out the winner...

[dwessell]

The day shawn michaels retires, i retire from watching wrestling..
That guy is the only guy that hasn't gotten old for me the whole time i was growing up! Stone Cold is good, hes no HBK... The Rock, the best entertainer of all time in the ring, but he also is no HBK...
HBK is in a different category just like Flair, legendary..
But the day HBK's show stops, I won't watch wrestling anymore, because I don't see the future of wrestling yet, because Trips and freakin Cena, don't even get me started on Cena,(he just needs to turn heel)..People love to hate that guy... they won't do the things HBK has done and will continue to do for those younger guys... Screw Hogan..HBK hands down the greatest thing that has hit that ring... Everyone likes pure talent and gets into the character that really loves what he does.. So whatever there ya go

[dxdude]

I feel Shawn MIchaels deserves to win his final match this time around. If you all remeber correctly, Wrestlemania 14 was supposed to be his last match due to his back situation, and he dropped the strap to Austin. This time he should be able to have that final "W" for his final match.

[HBK-aholic]

Just throwing this out there due to recent events. So in kayfabe, it seems The Heartbreak Kid has gone and retired. I think we all know this isn't the case. However, what if it was? What if Chris Jericho was the one to end Shawns career for good? Does anyone else see the similrities between him and Shawn and Shawn and Flair? Shawn looked up to Flair, he was his idol as a child, and aspired to be like him. Just as Jericho feels towards Shawn.

Do people think the WWE would/should do a similar storyline to what happened with Flair? Only obviously with a few differences. If Jericho looked remorseful about doing it, like Shawn did, it'd be a nice moment. But if he did it out of spite, with hatred in mind, he would automatically become the most hated guy in the business.

[DeadmanInc.]

Just throwing this out there due to recent events. So in kayfabe, it seems The Heartbreak Kid has gone and retired. I think we all know this isn't the case. However, what if it was? What if Chris Jericho was the one to end Shawns career for good? Does anyone else see the similrities between him and Shawn and Shawn and Flair? Shawn looked up to Flair, he was his idol as a child, and aspired to be like him. Just as Jericho feels towards Shawn.

Do people think the WWE would/should do a similar storyline to what happened with Flair? Only obviously with a few differences. If Jericho looked remorseful about doing it, like Shawn did, it'd be a nice moment. But if he did it out of spite, with hatred in mind, he would automatically become the most hated guy in the business.

No offense to Jericho or anything but I don't believe that he is a big enough star to retire Shawn Michaels. Michaels retired Flair because he is definitely one of the best ever in wrestling history, much like Flair was. It was basically a legend ending a legend's career. I don't feel that Jericho is anywhere near Michaels or Flair's level despite him having quite a resume of championships (he won most of them when titles were meaningful). He may have been the first ever undisputed champion, but most people tend to forget his reign.

I would have said Undertaker should retire Shawn at WM25, since it's the 25th anniversary and it's in Texas. A Streak vs Career match between those two has "Best Match Ever" written all over it. However, I think we're most likely going to see Triple H vs Undertaker at WM25 due to the draft. That being said, whenever Shawn is ready to retire (I think he has at least 2 years left in him), it's most likely going to be Triple H that does so. Flair and Michaels are good friends in real life, and so are Triple H and Shawn. Therefore, I think Triple H is most likely going to end his career.

[wwegirl17]

Trust Becca to make a Will size post on HBK. :disappointed:

Yeah, I definately agree that HBK should win his last match. Because they will want different ways for Ric and HBK to go out on top.

At the moment I am utmost convinced that it will be HBK vs. HHH in a final match. I reckon HBK will win that match though, unless they want to keep the "Pass the Torch" thing going on.

I imagine the amtch of HHH and HBK will be legendary and mean alot. The hype for it will be beyond and above when that happen.

I think that the only other options would be an 'Against all odds' thing for HBK.

I completely agree. I think a match with the two of them even if HBK wins/loses would be incredibly special to the fans and too each other. I know it would be to me. Then the Raw after they could do his tribute and have him say good bye. I'm figuring it would be something like Tell Me A Lie, except that he's truly leaving. But I'd love for him to kick Admale's [sp?] ass and become the new GM if he's still GM at that time.

And give him one more title run!

[HBK-aholic]

I'm figuring it would be something like Tell Me A Lie,

I completely disagree with this. I think it'd be one of the most disrespectful things they could do. He's leaving the company ffor good, after years of service to it, you really think saying he's lying about it is a good thing to do? Besides, what would come of that? Nothing, because he's retiring.



except that he's truly leaving. But I'd love for him to kick Admale's [sp?] ass and become the new GM if he's still GM at that time.

I don't think he'll take on a Non-Wrestling spot in the WWE. I think when he's finished with the business, he'll just finish, leaving completely and spending time with his family. He may return for a special appearance once or twice, but nothing serious.

And give him one more title run!

I agree to the extent he definitely deserves more title runs than he has. But to be honest, Shawn isn't about the championships he's won. Without ever knowing that you could see in the ring how great he is. Championships don't mean much in his career. Also, I don't think he wants to be champion again. He wants to wrestle a lighter schedule, meaning he can't have the belt.

[OIL]

But to be honest, Shawn isn't about the championships he's won.

Yeah but why do wrestlers get into the wrestling business, to become champion. They don't say "oh well i'll become a kick ass wrestler but it dosen't matter about winning the title". They all get in the business to be called the WWE Champion/World Heavyweight Champion.

While Shawn will always be remembered for what happened with Bret, it shouldn't be. He's had unbelieveable matches, ones I could watch over and over. HBK vs Angle at WM 21. That was insane. To shift the focus about his carrer onto the wrestling, he should have one final title run. Then more people will remember the wrestling aspect of him, and realise that he can be a great champion.

[HBK-aholic]

Yeah but why do wrestlers get into the wrestling business, to become champion. They don't say "oh well i'll become a kick ass wrestler but it dosen't matter about winning the title". They all get in the business to be called the WWE Champion/World Heavyweight Champion.

One of the best days of Shawns life is winning that championship. His dream had come true and it meant the world to him. However his career, is not about how many times he's won gold. the man deserves it more times than most. But his career is about the greatness of matches put on. The fact that he has never had a bad match, especially at an important time. His Wrestlemania matches far surpass what anyone else has ever done.

While Shawn will always be remembered for what happened with Bret, it shouldn't be.

It'll be a part of what he's remembered for. Not completely though.

He's had unbelieveable matches, ones I could watch over and over. HBK vs Angle at WM 21. That was insane.

My favourite match in WWE history right there.


To shift the focus about his carrer onto the wrestling, he should have one final title run. Then more people will remember the wrestling aspect of him, and realise that he can be a great champion.

What do you mean, the wrestling aspect? He is all about the wrestling, he's freaking amazing in the ring and can cut an awesome promo. He won't win the title again because he doesn't want to.

[Sparky]

Yeah but why do wrestlers get into the wrestling business, to become champion.Not really. some want to do it becouse they like entertaining the fans. either that or becouse they enjoy wrestling. no matter how many times people say on WWE that it was there life long dream or i have wanted to do this all my life etc, dont mean it is always real. Infact all HBK wanted to do was wrestle. his dream was to be able to walk through his home town shoppin centre and be noticed. have people say OMG thats HBK. I want to be a wrestler but i wouldnt give a shit if i was champion or not. thats like saying the only reason acters act is becouse they want a grammy or something. They don't say "oh well i'll become a kick ass wrestler but it dosen't matter about winning the title". They all get in the business to be called the WWE Champion/World Heavyweight Champion. Bull shit. if thats the case then why dont they complain about it. im sure TNA would take anybody from the WWE if they said they would if they become champion. more people would want to become bigger then the belt. then have the belt. being WWE champion is really not a big deal. well look CM PUNK is CHAMPION. its when you become bigger then the belt that you have made it in this business.

While Shawn will always be remembered for what happened with Bret, it shouldn't be. Right. so all this talk about the Rockers, the first ever HIAC, DX (kids like them) all he has accomplished, ending Ric flairs career has to do with Bret. wrong. the Montreal incident is a big part but all the parts where big. He's had unbelieveable matches, ones I could watch over and over. HBK vs Angle at WM 21. That was insane. and people will remember him for them. in twenty years time they will still be talking bout HBK and most likly the Rockers and not about the Montreal incedent. To shift the focus about his carrer onto the wrestling, he should have one final title run. Then more people will remember the wrestling aspect of him, and realise that he can be a great champion.
HBK is beyond the belt. He doesnt need one last title run just a classy way to go out on. people will remember him for everything he has done. EVERYTHING. the swerve is going to be one tiny part of his career in the end.

[Richard]

I think we're most likely going to see Triple H vs Undertaker at WM25 due to the draft.

I hope we don't though, I don't want to see WrestleMania 17 all over again, even though HHH vs Taker would be good, I just don't think for WrestleMania 25 but I do agree with you 100% that Triple H will end HBKs career.

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

I hope we don't though, I don't want to see WrestleMania 17 all over again, even though HHH vs Taker would be good, I just don't think for WrestleMania 25 but I do agree with you 100% that Triple H will end HBKs career.

Hmmm, Undertaker and Kane fought at WM14 and 20 and had totally different matches. Austin and Rock fought 3 times at WM and had totally different matches, why couldn't HHH and Taker? Plus a match with the Phenom and not the American Badass would be totally different imo.

Personally i think that Taker and HBK should face each other at WM25 and (i can't believe i'm saying this) HBK should win. Let him prove he truly is Mr. Wrestlemania by ending the undefeated streak and then both men can go out at the same time. They are the only 2 guys who were on the very first Raw and both have hung in there for 20 odd years now. They've had amazing rivalries and it would be fitting imo for their careers to end at the same time.

Personally i'd love for Taker to "never retahhhhhhh" but then we'd never get a 'THS: The Undertaker' documentary which i, personally, would love

[Tiger Wood's Harem]

I do not want Triple H to end Michaels career.

Period.

I want Michaels to go one on one with the deadman at WrestleMania 25 in either an ironman or 2/3 falls match. I want him to pin the Undertaker at WrestleMania. He could still lose and have a Flair-like sendoff, but that would be awesome. Could you imagine Taker being pinned at Mania? Whoa.

I sure hope Shawn's got a lot left, but I don't think he does. I think he's gone after WrestleMania 25.. The very biggest event WWE has ever had. Sounds good, doesn't it?

[AFC1986]

It probably won't happen as he has said he has retired, but I would love to see him face The Rock in his last match. That is a dream match for me as both are icons in professional wrestling and because both are fan favourites the fans will be so into this match, just like they were for Rock v Hogan at Wrestlemania 18.

If not The Rock, I would like to see him against Jeff Hardy. I think that would be an amazing match as both put love to put on a spectacle in every match the compete in and I think that the fans will be on the edges of their seats as you never know what Jeff is going to do

[Saiquan]

It probably won't happen as he has said he has retired, but I would love to see him face The Rock in his last match. That is a dream match for me as both are icons in professional wrestling and because both are fan favourites the fans will be so into this match, just like they were for Rock v Hogan at Wrestlemania 18.

If not The Rock, I would like to see him against Jeff Hardy. I think that would be an amazing match as both put love to put on a spectacle in every match the compete in and I think that the fans will be on the edges of their seats as you never know what Jeff is going to do

The Rock would be a nice match but then it wouldn't be all about Shawn Michaels.

I have said this 100's of times that just talking about Shawn Retiring upsets my stomach and sends cold chills down my spine. I honestly believe that Mania 25 should have been here in San Antonio in the Alamodome. Atleast 60,000 people would have been able to pack that stadium and Shawn could have had his last match in his home town. If this is shawns last mania i will have to make the 3hrs drive to Houston. If Mania 25 is Shawns last match its needs to be against The Undertaker. But lets not just make it Shawns last match let make it Marks last as his knees are just as bad as Shawns. If that match is announced say around November are December tickets will sell out with know problem. Every one keeps saying Hell In A Cell, 2/3 falls, IronMan, well im sure people like Becca and myself perfer a old school classic. None of that new bullshit. But they would deserve atleast 40:00 min. The only problem with a classic match is i really want Shawn to win his last match but i don't want Taker to lose the streak. But they could play this really well. But for it to be a high profile match the build up need to start no later then The Royal Rumble. Which the WWE has a problem with doing. Also remember how we all wanted to see Edge vs Taker at Mania 24 and we got it. For some reason thats how i feel about this match. If this does happen and ots the mainevent Vince won't have to give away 4,000 tickets like he had to for mania 24

[HBK-aholic]

Yeah, The Undertaker would be great. The only problem I see with it is that the only time I think they'll wrestle in a big match is WM 25. I DO NOT want Shawn to retire then. The thought is pretty much one of the worst I can imagine. The day he retires is going to be completely painful for everyone. I don't want it to be that soon.

With Triple H, yeah, it'd be a nice thought. They're best friends, and have a big history. I understand why people don't want this to happen. But everyone expected Shawn to end Flairs. That happened. I think it will end up being Triple H.

[LFC_DamnTrue]

I personally am not a HUGE fan of Michaels personality. However, he is a legend in the ring, and that can't be argued. Of all the wrestlers there at the moment, in my opinion it should be The Undertaker who faces HBK in his final match. (Lets just hope it isn't Cena or Batista)

In all honesty though, I'd prefer a repeat of Shawn Michaels Vs Kurt Angle, 60 Minute Ironman. That was an awesome match., And their feud never really wound up properly.

[Richard]

Hmmm, Undertaker and Kane fought at WM14 and 20 and had totally different matches. Austin and Rock fought 3 times at WM and had totally different matches, why couldn't HHH and Taker? Plus a match with the Phenom and not the American Badass would be totally different imo.



I know that, but in the end The Undertaker is just going to win and I don't see Triple H agreeing to put The Undertaker over AGAIN at a WrestleMania because arn't there stories about how Triple H doesn't like The Undertaker or something along those lines, something about tension?

Also because I reckon Triple H will face Shawn at WrestleMania 25 because they are the best of friends and could put on an amazing match.

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

I know that, but in the end The Undertaker is just going to win and I don't see Triple H agreeing to put The Undertaker over AGAIN at a WrestleMania because arn't there stories about how Triple H doesn't like The Undertaker or something along those lines, something about tension?

Also because I reckon Triple H will face Shawn at WrestleMania 25 because they are the best of friends and could put on an amazing match.

Yes they could put on a great match. That's a fact because we've seen it 4 or 5 times. We've seen HHH v Taker 3 times i think, and when HHH won the second match it was due to Brock Lesnar running in.

HHH has never beaten Taker cleanly, so a) imo HHH can say he's the best as much as he wants to, but until he cleanly beats the Undertaker, i'm not going to acknowledge that idea as a possibility, and b) any match they had would have an added level of suspense and intrigue because people would wonder if HHH could actually beat him cleanly. They've maintained the whole 'Batista has never beaten Edge with the World title on the line' (even though he did in his first WHC run on Raw), so why wouldn't they keep 'HHH can't beat Taker?'

Yes apparently there is tension between Taker and HHH, according to Wrestlezone, and they didn't elaborate any further than that so i'll believe it when i see footage of Taker and HHH about to come to blows backstage or when one does an in-ring shoot on the other. If it is true, then it should still be irrelevant because Vince and the Creative team decide who wins and who loses, no the talent. You can say that HHH politics his way to the top all you want, but there is no way he'd have enough stroke to convince others to let him beat someone like Taker if that was not the original plan.

mark Callaway is the backbone of that company. you can say HBK all you want, but i don't recall the Undertaker ever taking 4 years off. He's had his fair share of time on the injury list as well, but he draws, puts guys over, allows his character to get screwed over more often than ANYONE else i've ever seen in WWE, and still takes the sick ass bumps when neccessary.

i honestly don't think HHH could walk visit Vince at home and say:

"Hey Vince, i heard what you're planning for the PPV next month with me and Taker.... and i was wondering..... could you change it so that i beat him instead. I really don't think me jobbing will help anyone, whereas if I beat him, no one can say i'm not a legend right? Whaddya say?"

Without Vince saying:

"Fuck sake Paul, you've been the champ 12 times! And now you want me to change everything just so you don't have to lose to Mark? He's always been loyal to us, and i've told him you're jobbing, so the answer is no, and that's final!"

That's a deeper insight to my opinion

[BigLeagueG26]

Shawn Michaels is one of those wrestlers i grew up watching as a little boy and i'm 26 now,I say His last match should be un heard of,a type of match wrestling fans have never seen before, something ''showstopping'',like when he climbed up that 30 feet ladder at Wrestlemania 22 and destroy Vinny Mac with that elbow!If he had to wrestle an up and coming wrestler in his final match I Say Ted Dibease ,that kid is going to be great mark my words!

[HBK-aholic]

Shawn Michaels is one of those wrestlers i grew up watching as a little boy and i'm 26 now,I say His last match should be un heard of,a type of match wrestling fans have never seen before, something ''showstopping'',like when he climbed up that 30 feet ladder at Wrestlemania 22 and destroy Vinny Mac with that elbow!

No. I want a regular, amazing singles match. This match isn't going to be about the gimmick, the opponent or the moveset. It's going to be about nothing but respect for this man who's given us everything over the years. Everything we see in that match is going to be a testament to his career. Everything he does will have meant something to him, and we'll be able to see that.

If he had to wrestle an up and coming wrestler in his final match I Say Ted Dibease ,that kid is going to be great mark my words!

Again, I disagree. He puts people over all the time now. I think his last match should solely be about him. Which is why I think his opponent should be Triple H. So, we've seen this before yes. But it is a big part of the history for both these guys. And it's not something which will take away from him too much. Hence the reason we shouldn't get Austin or The Rock back for it.

[wwefan49]

No. I want a regular, amazing singles match. This match isn't going to be about the gimmick, the opponent or the moveset. It's going to be about nothing but respect for this man who's given us everything over the years. Everything we see in that match is going to be a testament to his career. Everything he does will have meant something to him, and we'll be able to see that.



Again, I disagree. He puts people over all the time now. I think his last match should solely be about him. Which is why I think his opponent should be Triple H. So, we've seen this before yes. But it is a big part of the history for both these guys. And it's not something which will take away from him too much. Hence the reason we shouldn't get Austin or The Rock back for it.

I know you don't want HBK to retire this year but what does Shawn have left to prove?? He's been in this business for around 20 years. He's destroyed his back, his knees. He's beaten everyone Triple H, Undertaker,Jericho,Cena,Batista,Angle,Edge,Hart,et c. HBK has done it all. Why not in one last showstopping performance in his home state of Texas in a showdown against the Undertaker. It would be the perfect setting. He wouldn't win but you don't always have to win your last match. I reference Rock,Austin,Flair. The performance Micheals would put on for the fans in that match would be a testament to that mans career. He should get to go out on his terms in a setting perfect for his career. Where is a bigger stage than Mania in your homestate? I would think no less of Shawn if he lost his last match. Because I know he will give us a showstopping performance.

[HBK-aholic]

I know you don't want HBK to retire this year but what does Shawn have left to prove??

He has nothing left to prove, and hasn't for many years.

He's been in this business for around 20 years. He's destroyed his back, his knees. He's beaten everyone Triple H, Undertaker,Jericho,Cena,Batista,Angle,Edge,Hart,et c. HBK has done it all. Why not in one last showstopping performance in his home state of Texas in a showdown against the Undertaker.

I'm not against this. I don't want him to retire, most fans don't. But when he says he's retiring no one's going to hold it against him. He has earned respect, and that's all he'll get. If his last match is WM 25 against Undertaker, I see no problem with that. It'd be an amazing match.

It would be the perfect setting. He wouldn't win but you don't always have to win your last match. I reference Rock,Austin,Flair. The performance Micheals would put on for the fans in that match would be a testament to that mans career.

In all fairness, it'd be a great match no matter who it was against, if only for the emotion we'll feel in it.

He should get to go out on his terms in a setting perfect for his career. Where is a bigger stage than Mania in your homestate? I would think no less of Shawn if he lost his last match. Because I know he will give us a showstopping performance.

Exactly. With Shawn at Mania the result rarely means anything; his matches are always amazing.

[Sparky]

I know you don't want HBK to retire this year but what does Shawn have left to prove?? if your saying that, what does triple H, Undertaker and even cena have to lprove why are they still wrestling? He's been in this business for around 20 years. So has the undertaker. you know who has longer then both guys? Hacksw Jim Duggan and he is still wrestling why?He's destroyed his back, his knees. He's beaten everyone Triple H, Undertaker,Jericho,Cena,Batista,Angle,Edge,Hart,et c. if that is accomplishing everything and you was to retire straight away then there would be no veterans left he isnt the only person to of completed that listHBK has done it all. Why not in one last showstopping performance in his home state of Texas in a showdown against the Undertaker. It would be the perfect setting. He wouldn't win but you don't always have to win your last match. He deserves winning his last match. the things he has done for this company, he out of the veterans deserves to be the one to defeat the undertaker in his own town. to well and truley submit him into the name MR Wrestlemania I reference Rock,Austin,Flair. The performance Micheals would put on for the fans in that match would be a testament to that mans career. And in that testement he should win. it would really show people that he is the man He should get to go out on his terms in a setting perfect for his career. Where is a bigger stage than Mania in your homestate? I would think no less of Shawn if he lost his last match. Because I know he will give us a showstopping performance.I wouldnt think any less of him if he lost but he shouldnt lose his final match. I am not saying award him the title but the guy deserves alot more then losing his final match. the guy really deserves a Trish type ending rather then a Lita. I would love to see HBK be the one to end the undertakers career. I know it wont happen but it would be awesome to see. the crowd would go nuts and so would I. his final match deserves to be a good memory for him. where he is able to legitly stand up and say goodbye to the fans. and you cant really do that if you just lost.without reakig kayfaybe.

[wwefan49]

if your saying that, what does triple H, Undertaker and even cena have to lprove why are they still wrestling?.


Cena hasn't beaten everyone yet and he has a bright future ahead of him. Triple H is still in his prime and Undertaker he dissapears for months at a time so his body can take part in the big matches when they need to. He has rare appearances nowadays. This isn't the 90's anymore.


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So has the undertaker. you know who has longer then both guys? Hacksw Jim Duggan and he is still wrestling why?[/QUOTE]


Hacksaw has a legends contract. He can come and go whenever he pleases. He doesn't exactly wrestle long matches. He is a nice little pop to the crowd nothing more.


[/QUOTE]if that is accomplishing everything and you was to retire straight away then there would be no veterans left he isnt the only person to of completed that list He deserves winning his last match. the things he has done for this company, he out of the veterans deserves to be the one to defeat the undertaker in his own town. to well and truley submit him into the name MR Wrestlemania[/QUOTE]

HBK has never been one to have an issue with putting people over. When HBK lost to Angle at Mania 21 I thought no less of either man the result didn't matter. I was impressed by Angle but the toughness Shawn showed made him just as good as the man Angle had made submit moments earlier. How many others can say that?


[/QUOTE]And in that testement he should win. it would really show people that he is the manI wouldnt think any less of him if he lost but he shouldnt lose his final match. I am not saying award him the title but the guy deserves alot more then losing his final match. the guy really deserves a Trish type ending rather then a Lita. I would love to see HBK be the one to end the undertakers career. I know it wont happen but it would be awesome to see. the crowd would go nuts and so would I. his final match deserves to be a good memory for him. where he is able to legitly stand up and say goodbye to the fans. and you cant really do that if you just lost.without reakig kayfaybe.[/QUOTE]

Noone should end the Phenoms streak. Not HHH, not Cena, not even HBK. That means too much I think he'd rather lose in his homestate to a legend like Undertaker than beat Triple H on a random Raw thats a mediocre setting in comparison. Who says he can't break kayfabe after the show like the whole Taker/Flair thing on Raw. Then the next night come out and personally thank the fans.

[Sparky]

Cena hasn't beaten everyone yet and he has a bright future ahead of him. Triple H is still in his prime and Undertaker he dissapears for months at a time so his body can take part in the big matches when they need to. He has rare appearances nowadays. This isn't the 90's anymore.
:lmao: Did you just say... Cena...beaten...yet? thats bullshit. HBK, HHH, Edge, Umaga just to name a few. HBK is still good he can wrestle hour matches and still be fit enough to go. His time isnt yet.


HBK has never been one to have an issue with putting people over. When HBK lost to Angle at Mania 21 I thought no less of either man the result didn't matter. I was impressed by Angle but the toughness Shawn showed made him just as good as the man Angle had made submit moments earlier. How many others can say that? You just said it. he has no problems putting people over. has done all his career. so he should BE ABLE to win his last match.

Noone should end the Phenoms streak. Not HHH, not Cena, not even HBK. That means too much Thats crap. it would not hurt the undertaker one bit. that is not all he is going to be known for. but thats a different thread you want to debate that go to that thread. I think he'd rather lose in his homestate to a legend like Undertaker than beat Triple H on a random Raw thats a mediocre setting in comparison. If "I" was him i would wan to lose to my friend rather then to go down in history as just another one on the undertakers list. the guy is MR Wrestlemania and that will not prove it. Who says he can't break kayfabe after the show like the whole Taker/Flair thing on Raw. Then the next night come out and personally thank the fans. I couldnt see him breaking kayfaybe not again. the guy would want to do it the real way. and that would only work if he won.

what they need is a 60 minute Ironman match. go out the same way he came into the ME.

[wwefan49]

:lmao: Did you just say... Cena...beaten...yet? thats bullshit. HBK, HHH, Edge, Umaga just to name a few. HBK is still good he can wrestle hour matches and still be fit enough to go. His time isnt yet..

Has Cena beaten Batista yet...no has he beaten Rey yet?..no CM Punk nope. The new raw roster has plenty of people Cena hasn't gone over but thats another discussion you wanna discuss that go to that thread. Noone is debating if HBK can stilll go the question is should he still go the answer he has earned the right to rest and take care of his family and you as a fan should respect that and not be selfish and wanna see him further destroy his body for you amusement. Everyones time comes and his time is now.

:You just said it. he has no problems putting people over. has done all his career. so he should BE ABLE to win his last match. ..

He should be able to if he wants to but its not a must.An HBK match is an HBK match regardless of win/lose/draw.

:Thats crap. it would not hurt the undertaker one bit. that is not all he is going to be known for. but thats a different thread you want to debate that go to that thread. If "I" was him i would wan to lose to my friend rather then to go down in history as just another one on the undertakers list. the guy is MR Wrestlemania and that will not prove it. I couldnt see him breaking kayfaybe not again. the guy would want to do it the real way. and that would only work if he won. ..

It may not hurt Undertakers legacy but it is something in pro wrestling that should never be harmed too much hisstory...but your right different thread.

:what they need is a 60 minute Ironman match. go out the same way he came into the ME.

That would be nice but why does it have to be a gimmick match? Like Becca said a 40 minute classic would suffice. HBK vs Triple H would be great. I just think Taker vs HBK would be better. These 2 are from the same era. Triple H is from a slighlty later one. Sure Shawn and Triple H are friends but does that automatically mean thats the route they should go. I'd love to see it but theyve been hinting for 2 years this is the route theyre wanting to go. Regardless of the opponent or date we will all be saddened to see Shawn go.

[Canadian Knight]

You say that because he has put people over that he deserves of having him win his last match. What about the fact he has (a) put a flag of another country (canada, your northern ally) partially in his nose (b) was not only involved with screwing Bret Hart, but on the next night did not treat him right like he should have and screwed with his character (c) betrayed everyone who was a friend because he was going to face him for the belt or in a match (like his partner Cena).

I accept that he was the one who "forced" Flair out of retirement, but why is it that he betrays other people, and everyone seems to forget it?

In his last match all I ask is that he not win the belt and hand it over, because that is copying Bret Hart and is stupid. Maybe have it where he has to win the match to stay in the WWE and he has a draw like an Iron Man match.

[HBK-aholic]

You say that because he has put people over that he deserves of having him win his last match.

He deserves to win his last match as a sign of respect. I won't be bothered if he doesn't win becase the match will be great regardless. But still, I thinkit'd be fitting if he did win.


What about the fact he has (a) put a flag of another country (canada, your northern ally) partially in his nose

Ah good times. One of the funniest things I've ever seen.


(b) was not only involved with screwing Bret Hart, but on the next night did not treat him right like he should have and screwed with his character

*Sigh* Hart should have just dropped the belt. All 3 people were in the wrong, not only Shawn.

(c) betrayed everyone who was a friend because he was going to face him for the belt or in a match (like his partner Cena).

You do know that him ditching Cena was part of a storyline, to enhance their feud?

I accept that he was the one who "forced" Flair out of retirement, but why is it that he betrays other people, and everyone seems to forget it?

All people talk about is how HBK was an asshole, as well as a politicking bastard. So people haven't forgotten. Try again.

In his last match all I ask is that he not win the belt and hand it over, because that is copying Bret Hart and is stupid. Maybe have it where he has to win the match to stay in the WWE and he has a draw like an Iron Man match.

Lawls, he shouldn't win the belt then hand it over, but the reasoning has nothing at all to do with Hart. He shouldn't win it in his last match because then the reign will mean nothing.

[Æ]

MMHMM.... HBK should go sooner than later. Reasons? well, we can start with his knees, Back problems... face it: HBK had his time so he better start thinking in how much money does he want for his final match.
As many of you said, i agree that we pretty much have two scenarios here:

-HHH
-Undertaker

and MAYBE.....Jericho or Mr kennedy as a third, but distant option.

first trips. where do i start...? oh yeah: he and hbk formed one of the most influential stables in the history of the biz. Add to that real life friendship, being IMO the third most powerful man in WWE, Trips pretty much have the odds wit him. Besides, both guys know each other styles and can perform a great match, worth of the legendary HBK.

Now, taker: besides TRips, the most dominant wrestler inside and outside a WWE ring. potential Wrestlemania PPV buys record (streak + final match = instant win and worth the 60 dollar tag for the HD-PPV) and great, great performer.

Is a tough choice, but let be honest: the odds are in Triple H side because of political reasons and what not.

I would rather watch a Jericho vs HBK in a Last Man Standing for his final match, but i think we could prepare ourselves for a Triple H vs HBK farewell match.

[My$terio_Fan]

I don't think HBK should leave yet. Yes he isn't as good as he once was and has injuries but the man can still wrestle better than half of the guys on the roster. Also he is over with the fans. I think HBK should stay and put over talent as much as possible. As for a last match I think if HBK did want to leave this year then Jericho Vs. HBK would be an awesome way to leave. Jericho could destroy and permenately take HBK out, which would give so much heat to Jericho. I would love a Undertaker match for the final one, but Undertaker has nothing to gain whereas Jericho could become the company's biggest heel by taking out HBK.

[klunderbunker]

So, Shawn's last match, who should it be against and what should happen. If it were up to me, I'd go with John Cena actually, with either of them winning. Cena may be unpopular on here, but he is the absolute biggest draw in WWE today, and clearly loves and respects the business. If it were Taker, he wouldn't be able to have the emotional sendoff that Michaels deserves. HHH and Michaels.....just for some reason I don't think it would be as great as its thought it would be. Batista and Michales has been done too recently. Shawn and Cena have had a great series of matches, and I think they could do it again. Its not a popular choice, but I could see it working.

[D.Miller]

I envision that the greater match for Shawn Michaels to exit the business is against Triple H, how can that not be recognized beyond all else? Triple H and Shawn Michael have this chemistry. They have an intimate real-life friendship, great cooked-up friction when against each other, phenomenal psychology and I just can't think of two better men of friends that work together excellently and with such emotion that I think I'd cry the night a river. Definitely it should occur at a WrestleMania.

HBK is Mr. WrestleMania and as it would be appropriate to retire him there, so would he prefer. Would it be this year? Well perhaps not but his days are narrowing down. It could be this year or Michaels could possibly hold out till 2010's WrestleMania 26, whereas, he could further help talent and put them over until his shining moment at Mania where he wins. He deserves the win to retire.

I try to consider other opponents such as Jericho but I wouldn't want Y2J destroying HBK and putting his career out like that even if it would help Y2J and his legacy. Fact is, where would the emotion be? And it wouldn't be good for Y2J to break character (if at WM 25) to someone who is being well portrayed as his enemy unless HBK/Y2J made up like HHH/HBK. HHH would be able to do that cause they're both face and both close friends in and out the business. Alright, that's my two cents.

[HBK-aholic]

So, Shawn's last match, who should it be against and what should happen. If it were up to me, I'd go with John Cena actually, with either of them winning.

Are you being serious?

Cena may be unpopular on here, but he is the absolute biggest draw in WWE today, and clearly loves and respects the business.

So does any number of other WWE superstars. And Shawn's last match shouldn't have the word 'drawing' even mentioned in it.

If it were Taker, he wouldn't be able to have the emotional sendoff that Michaels deserves.

Same with Cena. Flairs match was so emotional because of who he was against. Because Shawn looked sorry, because there was a history between them, and everyone knows Shawn looked up to him. You can honestly see pain in Shawn doing it. With Cena and Michaels' feuding not long ago, and that happening with Shawn turning on Cena, I don't see the same thing.


HHH and Michaels.....just for some reason I don't think it would be as great as its thought it would be.

The match itself wouldn't be drop down amazing for a normal match. However for his last match, it would be. These 2 have more history than anyone else short of Bret Hart coming back (NOT going to happen, before anyone mentions it). They can put on a great match and convey the energy and emotion brilliantly.

Batista and Michales has been done too recently.

No way, regardless. This would never happen.

[jrcongine]

This has nothing to do with the thread but a question about shawn michaels and figured if anyone could answer they would check here... I was watching the older WWF dvd Shawn Michaels boyhood dream and they have the IYH match with with and Diesel. After the match is over shawn goes on a 30 second rant of flipping diesel off and cussing and even telling him to get the fuck out of the ring. He then does the hogan pose, then halls razor ramon pose. Was this because he was pissed because of them going to WCW. This was 96 and had to be one of Diesels last matches. And you have to remember this was before the attitude era and that much vulgarity wasn't used and looked like michaels had legit heat with nash afterwards. Thanks please let me know anything. Big shawn and kliq fan.

[wwefan49]

This has nothing to do with the thread but a question about shawn michaels and figured if anyone could answer they would check here... I was watching the older WWF dvd Shawn Michaels boyhood dream and they have the IYH match with with and Diesel. After the match is over shawn goes on a 30 second rant of flipping diesel off and cussing and even telling him to get the fuck out of the ring. He then does the hogan pose, then halls razor ramon pose. Was this because he was pissed because of them going to WCW. This was 96 and had to be one of Diesels last matches. And you have to remember this was before the attitude era and that much vulgarity wasn't used and looked like michaels had legit heat with nash afterwards. Thanks please let me know anything. Big shawn and kliq fan.

ask that in a spam and ld thread ur gonna get in trouble if u post that here.

In another note I think I was thinking Cena vs HBK would be a good final match.Someone said it earlier and I disagreed at first. But now that I think about it HBK going over the biggest young star in the company.That could work I don't think its the best option but it could work. I'd still prefer Undertaker or even Triple H but everyone is so big on Shawn winning his last match. I don't think its necessary. f its at Wrestlemania he should lose to Undertaker.

[kapone21]

First off i think that only hbk can decide when it is time to leave, he feels the pain and aches every day not us, all we see is the great talent and personality that is The Show Stopper. With that said i think his last match should be in the next 2 years, probably WM26.
I see only one opponent that could make this match the classic it should be..HHH.. With the history between them 2 inside and outside the ring this could be up there with one of the most up matches ever. They would have to both be faces in the match. So HBK could finish his career without breaking kayfab. i don't know how they would set it up, probably the GM or even Vinny Mac would make the match so both of them could be face. Possibly after a DX reunion. When ever and who ever it is, it will be a unforgettable match, and a sad sad day for The Biz.

[Saiquan]

You say that because he has put people over that he deserves of having him win his last match. What about the fact he has (a) put a flag of another country (canada, your northern ally) partially in his nose (b) was not only involved with screwing Bret Hart, but on the next night did not treat him right like he should have and screwed with his character (c) betrayed everyone who was a friend because he was going to face him for the belt or in a match (like his partner Cena).

I accept that he was the one who "forced" Flair out of retirement, but why is it that he betrays other people, and everyone seems to forget it?

In his last match all I ask is that he not win the belt and hand it over, because that is copying Bret Hart and is stupid. Maybe have it where he has to win the match to stay in the WWE and he has a draw like an Iron Man match.


Why is it that you damn Canadians always bitch about what Shawn did to Bret. I will agree that Shawn was in the wrong for lieing to Bret to his face. But if Bret had just dropped the damn Belt like his "BOSS" told him to then what happened wouldn't have happened. Plus dude wrestling is fake, his character hated canada not Michael Shawn Hickebottom. Plus if Bret is such a man then why when Shawn tried to put the past behind them Bret acts like a little bitch and just won't let it go. Shawn helped screw Bret 11 years ago, get the hell over it.

[Rumble]

It's Gonna nice when the heart break kid return to Monday Night Raw. I like this superstar and best wrestler from the old years and in the new years now, Shawn michaels injured by chris jericho, I Hate It, in November 2007, Chris jericho come back and returned to WWE to save all But he do bad thing to someone - The Legendary HBK, I think Simply HBK will gonna to Raw again and to bring the vengeance to chris jericho in the pay-per-view or in the next shows of Raw.. Chris jerico needed to be a king of HBK..

[Lifetime Anal Bitch]

Definately HBK v.s Taker in a Title v.s. Streak match. The hype and the actual match of the match would be unheard of. They kinda teased just after the RR 2007 with Michaels challenging Taker for it's Mania match, but it never happened. Trust me, if that went down, Shawn wouldn't even need to win, for he go out on the highest of highs. Besides, if there's one thing Taker has proven, if he's given the title spot (like he was with Batista & Edge) on the card, his match will steal the show.

And is it just me, or am I the only guy who thinks that HBK is gonna retire at WM 25, in his home state of Texas? I mean, he's already working on Raw on a part time basis. Methinks he's starting to wind down...

[LigerBomb]

3 guys come to my mind:

BTW all matches at a WM

'Taker: Works great for a couple of reasons, marks will love the streak vs legacy angle, smarts will actually be on the edge of their seats to see who goes over and the behind the scenes business aspect of it all.
Were this to happen I would like to see Taker pick it up to really make the streak look even more godly. Shawn's win would make him look tops but would be wasted (much like a last match title win) since it wouldn't aid anyone going forward and needlessly end Taker's run. IMO when it's Taker's turn to retiree it should be streak and/or retire match at a WM.

Hunter: Current face Hunter plays off as friends, partners, sometime rivals, etc. it works on so many levels and I think the build up with retrospective flashbacks could be spectacular. Here winning or losing wouldn't be as important as it would more be about Shawn's legacy and the dread that we as fans won't have him in the ring anymore. Either ending could work and he'd have a great send off regardless. So... what the heck give the win to Shawn, and have a great send off on Raw the next night maybe even with Hunter doing a this is your life/career sorta thing for the comedy and sentimentality of it.

Jericho: This could be a tremendous match as the blow off of their feud at WM 25 for obvious reasons. But thinking further down the line I think it would be doable in two other ways.

1. They don't do this now a days but what if they actually kept this feud going for more than a year. Impossible you say? Well i dunno. I believe both men are smart enough and talented enough to really take this current angle and run with it for much more than the current fans are used to seeing. There is a lot of psychology that can be wrung out of their hatred, add in injuries (and therefore recovery time off), and factor in secondary/group feuds and this could go all the way into creating a real arch nemesis for HBK in the form of Jericho. Since this blow off match would literally be years in the making it would be epic. In the grand style of Good vs. Evil Shawn goes over -selling the hell out of the match and doing everything in his power to make Jericho look like gold in the process- and fades off into sunset.

2. But what if you really wanted a happier ending in the ring and also wanted a bit of a break from the current feud. Instead have Jericho heel it up with other faces and have both men go their separate ways for a bit(months, years, whatever). To start it back up again, have their paths cross later on and just remind the fans why Jericho went heel in the first place. Make sure that at this point Jericho is a monster heel, and reiterate to the fans why in his mind he is the way his is and does the despicable things he does. Almost make it as if Shawn is Dr. Frankenstein in a sense.
As the reignited feud builds have Shawn be the ultimate exemplary face hell bent on stopping the monster he created and assuaging his guilt in the process, perhaps not true guilt -because he doesn't believe he caused Jericho's heel-ish ways- but rather that he will retire leaving Jericho to run amok unless stopped. Display his ultra face-iness via some talking but more so in actions and his good deeds. Really ham it up if need be -don't go cartoony- make it almost Jesus like (all irony aside).
However make it clear that the only person that Shawn could not possibly forgive is Jericho, and therefore without total forgiveness for everyone, all his good deeds be rendered moot in consequence. In witnessing Shawn's actions slowly show Jericho start to see the possible error of his ways, question his actions, and his motives. The same slow turn to heel could start to reverse and culminate during the match itself. Have Shawn's final acts in the ring, in the face of total adversity and defeat, finally turn Jericho. Jericho gets a almost Grinch like face turn and Shawn finds an outer forgiveness and redemption for what was done to him by Chris and in turn likewise becomes forgiven for all the things he did in his younger career. Victory could work either way but to really keep with the thematic sacrifice aspect Shawn should probably lose and then have a long promo on Raw, Jericho there thanking him for giving him his soul back and promising to live up to Shawn's example and legacy, Shawn thanking Jericho for helping him gain that inner peace to settle the demons of his career. Then have a similar send off with other Superstars coming out to celebrate a la' Flair's retirement.

[Mattyboy]

Id love to see HBK v Orton, the two best in wwe at the moment imo. I think HBK will retire soon than later and he deserves a high profile oppenent after the career he's had. I think having him win the title at mania as his farewell could work, as he can then vacate and give creative a storyline from that to crown a new champ.

HBK shouldnt have to put anyone over in his last match-i appreciate the sentiment behind the idea, but if Flair gets HBK, HBK should get who he wants.

If he loses his last match then Taker would perfect at mania. The only thing left for HBK to do is take the deadmans streak.Or try anyway.That would be a huge match, bigger than any title match wwe could put together.

All this stuff about Shawn screwing Bret Hart...look im a huge Hitman fan, who isnt? But he was going to WCW, Vince did what he felt he had to for his company. It wasnt morally right, Hitman deserves better, but from Vinces pov, it was. And Bret wasnt an angel you know, he refused to drop the belt to HBK, fought with him in the back...its a tricky subject because im suge a mark for both guys, but if i was Vince, and my top guy was jumping the competiton as my champion whilst the competition is kicking my ass in the ratings, and i find out about it on the night he was going to beat my next top guy,id of done the same.

[toomanypopups]

Guys, forget about HBK and Bret(not happening), the way in which HBK could go out is the way he came in, remember? When he came in the biz, with style flambouyance right? Remember him on the mic, announcing, when his music hit he was live and he created that spark that made HBK fans go crazy, and lately the HeartBreak Kid hasn't been like this, for me to see HBK go out of WM(wateva number it will be) by facing HHH(any doubts here??) but being himself, thats why the fans were always behind HBK
cause he was simply himself.

[Pippen]

I think it will be HHH vs HBK in HBk's lsat match because they have both said that they are more relaxed when they are vsing each other compared to wrestling other wreslters. this is because they trust every each other the most and i believe HBK would want his best firend/most trusted wrestler to wrestle him in his last match. It would be a cool match, it wouldn't be a grudge match just a friendly match. And i can see it happenign at Survivor Series because this is Shawns show.

[Colamania]

Alright, before I start this post, let me clarify that I am under no illusions. Shawn Michaels' final match will be against Triple H. That is not under any doubt. Just like Flair put his friend above the company, so will Michaels.

But, in an ideal world, the man who would take Michaels down would be somebody on the verge of the main event, but not quite there. As little as six months ago, I would have named Jeff Hardy, and even now, despite his world title run, I'm tempted to say CM Punk. But, the fact is, right now SmackDown's main event is suffering painfully. Jeff, Edge, Triple H. Big Show is busy being Naked Vickie's (new gimmick? you saw it first here...) bitch, and UT's got to retire sometime soon, surely. So, with that in mind, here's a radical suggestion. Ladies and Gentlemen, as my personal choice for Shawn Michaels' retirer, I give you The Gold Standard.

Why not? Shelton Benjamin is arguably the most gifted athlete in WWE right now, he's found a gimmick that works in the cocky heel, and he's the US Champion. But despite that, he's stuck in fueds with Hurricane "The Green Meanie" Helms and Ron "I'm in WWE. Now I'm in TNA. Now I'm in WWE Again" Killings. All Shelton needs is one big moment, and he's a permanent main eventer. And what better moment could there be than taking out the Heartbreak Kid for good? Shelton and HBK have wrestled one another before and put on a couple of quite simply amazing matches. And after Flair's last match being... well, shall we say below par, I know Shawn will want his last match to go better than that. So, why not have a superb athlete and performer like Shelton take the honours? Not only would Shawn have a great final match, and have an opponent who would enable him to pull out all the stops (Benjamin can take a bump. See: WM24), but Shawn wouldn't make Flair's mistake. Flair lost his final match to a man who's best days were, quite frankly, a long way behind him. On the other hand, Shawn would be setting up a competitor for a great future as a multi-time world champion, which I believe Benjamin deserves.

[HBK-aholic]

Just like Flair put his friend above the company, so will Michaels.

Flair was hardly putting his friend above the company. And Shawn wouldn't be doing that if Triple H is the one to retire him.

Why not? Shelton Benjamin is arguably the most gifted athlete in WWE right now, he's found a gimmick that works in the cocky heel, and he's the US Champion.

The 2 had an amazing match a while back, and I'm a big fan of Shelton Benjamin. However, I don't think he's ever going to be in the ME, and I don't think he's good enough to be Shawns last match.

All Shelton needs is one big moment, and he's a permanent main eventer.

You say permanent as if he's near that now - he's no where near Main Event. US Championship is far from that. Can you ever see Benjamin as star of the company?


And what better moment could there be than taking out the Heartbreak Kid for good?

There are plenty of better people for the job.

Shelton and HBK have wrestled one another before and put on a couple of quite simply amazing matches.

Agreed.

And after Flair's last match being... well, shall we say below par, I know Shawn will want his last match to go better than that.

Flairs match wasn't supposed to be a showstealer in the way Cena and Batista are supposed to have matches. The match at Wrestlemania was everything it was supposed to be - a proper goodbye to Ric Flair. Everyone had been complaining about his in-ring work for years, did you really expect it to sudden;y become main event quality?

So, why not have a superb athlete and performer like Shelton take the honours? Not only would Shawn have a great final match, and have an opponent who would enable him to pull out all the stops (Benjamin can take a bump. See: WM24), but Shawn wouldn't make Flair's mistake.

They have had great matches in the past. But Benjamin as his last match will not happen.


Flair lost his final match to a man who's best days were, quite frankly, a long way behind him.

He was just in a feud which led to a new champion being crowned. Haters are saying he had nothing to do with the great feud that was HBK/Jericho. which is obviously rubbish. While he's not in his 'prime' he's still amazing.

On the other hand, Shawn would be setting up a competitor for a great future as a multi-time world champion, which I believe Benjamin deserves.

If he is that good he won't need to beat Shawn for him to become a main eventer.

[Kenan]

I'm going to go with Cola and say Shelton Benjamin as well. He and Shawn put on a great match three years ago and the only thing hampering him is his mic skills. He's the closest mid-carder to the main-event level but I think he needs a feud with a main-eventer before he can face Shawn. I would suggest the Undertaker because he has helped wrestlers such as Orton, Edge, and the Great Khali. He would do wonders for Benjamin and a couple of wins over Taker would elevate him into main-event status like it did Orton.

[HBK-aholic]

I'm going to go with Cola and say Shelton Benjamin as well.

Think about this. The guy that Shawn loses to is going to go down in history, he'll be a real main-eventer. The WWE will want this to be a guy who can make them a lot of money, and carry the company. Shelton isn't someone people really pay money to see.

He and Shawn put on a great match three years ago and the only thing hampering him is his mic skills.

Which is instrumental to a main-eventer.

[Milkyway!]

Its should be HBK vs Chris Jericho. HBK has always claimed Chris Jericho as his protoge. I remember watching the Shawn Micheals Biogrophy. When it came to WM 19, Shawn said not only was it his favorite match ever. But also, he enjoyed passing the torch to someone. He knew he could trust the company to. Now look at what they've done this past year. I'm not saying they need to start a big fued up again. But, if anyone was to put HBK off the rack, it should be Chris Jericho. (Of course Shawn losses, and truly, passes the torch to Jericho)

[Colamania]

Flair was hardly putting his friend above the company. And Shawn wouldn't be doing that if Triple H is the one to retire him.

I think he was. This is only my opinion, but in my view, Flair should have put over someone like Kennedy or even, at the time, Punk, somebody who was a young star and had a future to look forward to, complete with the title of "The man who retired Ric Flair" under their belt.

The 2 had an amazing match a while back, and I'm a big fan of Shelton Benjamin. However, I don't think he's ever going to be in the ME, and I don't think he's good enough to be Shawns last match.

I can see him in the main event. As I have explained already, Shelton is a great athlete and one of the WWE's best in-ring performers. He's already US Champion, and has been for a good deal of time, and don't forget, he's already had stellar matches with guys like (I believe) Kurt Angle and yes, Shawn Michaels. Hell, he's even gone over Triple H.

You say permanent as if he's near that now - he's no where near Main Event. US Championship is far from that. Can you ever see Benjamin as star of the company?

Actually, I don't say permanent as if he's near that now. That's not what permanent means, for a start. I say permanent as in he isn't in the main event now, but he would be if he took out HBK, and he would remain in the main event for the rest of his career. Which means permenant. Look it up. And yes, I can see Shelton in the main event, for the reasons I just explained.


There are plenty of better people for the job.

You know, instead of just making this statement, actually naming one or two of them might be an idea. I'm just saying.

Flairs match wasn't supposed to be a showstealer in the way Cena and Batista are supposed to have matches. The match at Wrestlemania was everything it was supposed to be - a proper goodbye to Ric Flair. Everyone had been complaining about his in-ring work for years, did you really expect it to suddenly become main event quality?

No, but I'm not actually complaining about the quality of the match. I'm simply pointing out that it was low, and that maybe Shawn would want his to be of a higher standard.

They have had great matches in the past. But Benjamin as his last match will not happen.

No, it won't. It will be Triple H. I'm not saying it will be Benjamin, I'm outlining reasons why it could and indeed should be him. If you'd read the start of my previous post, we could have avoided this misunderstanding. Still, it's cleared up now, so moving on...


He was just in a feud which led to a new champion being crowned. Haters are saying he had nothing to do with the great feud that was HBK/Jericho. which is obviously rubbish. While he's not in his 'prime' he's still amazing.

Now, again, I'm not claiming that Shawn isn't good. That'd be stupid, he's a great wrestler. What I am claming is that he isn't as good as he once was. Which you actually agree with in the bit I've emboldended. Which may not be a real word, but still stands. And I don't think he had nothing to do with the Jericho/Michaels fued, he was a great part of it, and I don't think there's many other competitors that could have done as well as Shawn did. However, I also don't think it would have worked if it was Shawn against anyone else. Jericho's cold, callous attitude made that fued IMO. But that's a debate for another time.

If he is that good he won't need to beat Shawn for him to become a main eventer.

Now, this is just silly. I'm not claiming that Benjamin NEEDS to beat Shawn to become a main eventer. He could take down Jeff Hardy or Edge just as easily and boom, he's there. What I'm saying is that it'd be perfect for a skilled young guy like Shelton to take the victory in Shawn's final match, and it would solidify his main event status forever. I mean, Shawn is one of the biggest names in wrestling today, and a bonafide legend. So, imagine what it would mean to be able to say "I'm the man who retired Shawn Michaels". If that doesn't set you up for life, I don't know what does.

[Kenan]

Think about this. The guy that Shawn loses to is going to go down in history, he'll be a real main-eventer. The WWE will want this to be a guy who can make them a lot of money, and carry the company. Shelton isn't someone people really pay money to see.



Which is instrumental to a main-eventer.

If HBK decides to retire in a couple of years, then Benjamin has plenty of time to rise to the main-event. It doesn't take that much time to become an main-eventer. I believe one of the reasons he doesn't get much reaction is because of his wrestling style. Nowadays, fans want to see much high-flying action and Benjamin is mainly a mat wrestler so sometimes fans get turned off by that. I'm not that worried about his mic skills because Jeff Hardy and Mysterio don't have any and they are over so Benjamin can become an main-eventer in 2009 and face HBK at WM 26 or WM 27 if he retires then. Did HBK make a lot of money after he retired Flair? If Benjamin won that match in an underhanded way, he will get more heat than anybody in recent memory with the exception of Vickie.

[CCS]

It'll be against Triple H at a Wrestlemania. Triple H and Shawn always wanted to headline a wrestlemania and it was rumored that they wanted to restart their feud. It just makes sense for his last match to be against heis best friend and biggest rival. I would actually like to see HBK vs HHH but i wouldnt like it at as a Wrestlemania mainevent. I'd rather it be on the under-card of Wrestlemania 26. I dont know if it really matters who would win but i imagine that Triple H would pull off the win. Simply because Shawn Michaels would be retiring. The right thing for Shawn to do would be to lose to a young guy on the way out but i dont see his ego letting him do that.

[HBK-aholic]

I think he was. This is only my opinion, but in my view, Flair should have put over someone like Kennedy or even, at the time, Punk, somebody who was a young star and had a future to look forward to, complete with the title of "The man who retired Ric Flair" under their belt.

These people have spent their lives putting people over. A last match shouldn't have to be about that. Flair is a great example. No, it wasn't a match with precision, and yes, there were botches. But it conveyed what it was supposed to - the sadness at Flair retiring and a thank you for all he'd done. I think Shawn would be really suited to something like this.

I can see him in the main event. As I have explained already, Shelton is a great athlete and one of the WWE's best in-ring performers. He's already US Champion, and has been for a good deal of time, and don't forget, he's already had stellar matches with guys like (I believe) Kurt Angle and yes, Shawn Michaels. Hell, he's even gone over Triple H.

Oh I'm not denying he's had great matches, his with Shawn was one of my favourites. But is he really good enough to be the face of the company, or one of them? I love him, so don't think I'm a hater. But I also don't see him drawing money as champion.

Actually, I don't say permanent as if he's near that now. That's not what permanent means, for a start. I say permanent as in he isn't in the main event now, but he would be if he took out HBK, and he would remain in the main event for the rest of his career. Which means permenant. Look it up. And yes, I can see Shelton in the main event, for the reasons I just explained.

You implied he was a semi-permanent wrestler in the Main Event now, and retiring Shawn would solidify that. I don't think simply retiring Shawn will get Benjamin a full ME place.

You know, instead of just making this statement, actually naming one or two of them might be an idea. I'm just saying.

Maybe reading the thread where I stated who I thought it would be mightbe an idea. I'm just saying.

"I've been thinking about this actually. And don;t get me wrong, I don't want Shawn to retire at all, but it'd be stupid for someone to think that this isn't on his mind if not everyone elses. He isn't in the same physical condition as he has been. and even though that doesn't make much difference to us as the fans as he is still brilliant in the ring, it makes a lot of difference to Shawn Michaels, as he's the one who feels the pain and tiredness that many other people don't understand.

With your suggestion, the one thing I don't understand is him winning the belt the day he retires, I find this pointless. However what I wouldn't fnd pointless is him having a championship run in his final year of wresling, or at least some time before he retires. I don't think many would disagree with the fact he deserves it, and definately deserves more runs than the amount he has been given.

I think Shawn, unlike Ric, should win his last match. the storyline with Flair was good, for him. However I don't think it'd work with Shawn. I think he should set a date, e.g. a Wrestlemania, and tell the world that will be his last match, regardless of win or lose. Him losing the match wouldn't be a bad thing, or a bad reflection of his career, as it certainly wasn't for Flair, however due to the nature of his gimmick of going out compared to Flairs, Shawn should win.

When trying to determine who should be the person to end his career, I think it's safe to say very few people have earned that honour. With Ric Flair, they chose a brilliant superstar to end his career, someone who always has great matches, and who had definately earned that. Out of respect for Flair, Shawn was one of few people who really should have been allowed to end the legacy. This is something Shawn Michaels also deserves. However, take Shawn out of the equation and who are we left with?

Triple H - Definately an option, and at the moment probably my favourite. The 2 have had such brilliant careers, and I'm a fan of HHH. Every WWE fan is familiar with the amount of history between the 2, whether it's love or hatred. Their matches have also always been brilliant. I love seeing them in the ring together, whether together or apart, as you just know you're going to see something special.

I'd never like to see them have another feud, as I think it's been done to the death and would definately take away from every other brilliant thing they've done in the ring. Fans should always remember the past matches they've had, as if they had anymore people would remember this feud for the many who would comaplin "We've seen it all before". However the one thing they haven't seen before is Triple H ending Shawn's career, in Shawns last ever match.

Hulk Hogan - The two had a good match a few years back, and Hogan definately has the fanbase to make this huge. However Shawn doesn't need that, and it'd be upsetting to see Shawn's career ended by this man. The 2 just don't compliment each others styles at all, and even though they can work together, I'd much rather see someone else who Shawn works with brilliantly.

Also, as I stated above, I want Shawn to win his final match. With the people we have at WWE, I think I can say quite easily that Shawn Michaels would not win if put against Hogan. Due to his 'hero' status with many fans, they would be unhappy with him losing, despite it being Shawn's match.

Austin/The Rock - I'm sure you know what I mean by classifying them together. They're both gone now, but still firm in the fans hearts, and still classed as big stars by the majority. Both have been the face of WWE, and everyone knows who they are, even the completely new fans.

Shawn and Austin had a great match before Shawn retired in 1998. Just imagine how much better it'd have been if Shawn wasn't on his way out due to an injury that bad? I think they could really have a good match, and I'd love to see it happen. However, same stands for with Hogan, would he come back to lose? He may do, but I can't see it as completely sure.

And also, a problem with bringing a wrestler such as The Rock, Austin or Hogan back for just that one night, is that the fact it's Shawn's last match would be taken away from. He deserves all attention to be on him, and every cheer to be for him and his career. I can't see it happening with these people returning.

Mr Kennedy - Has A LOT of potential at being huge. I think he's defiately going to be face of the comapny in a few years time. I think the odds on Kennedy ending his career are dependant on when Shawn does decide to retire. If it's Wrestlemania 25, I definately don't think he has a chance. However if it's closer to Wrestlemania 30, I could see him doing this. Not only would it further push his career in the right direction, it would also instantly give him a hall of fame name, if he wasn't aslready at that stage.

Whoever ends Shawn's career will automatically go down in history, as it would be one of the biggest things for someone to do. I also think it would fuel heel heat massively. I can't see many fans being happy with Shawn retiring, and if Shawn also lost his last match to this person, the crowd would turn on him like that. IT all depends on the direction they go in, but it would certaily be interesting.

As for type of match, I think in the end it should just be a regular singles match, no titles, no gimmicks, just Goodbye and Thank you Shawn. This way, nothing could take away from the skill we will see of Shawn that last time, and that we know he will deliver in massively, no matter his physical condition. He will be remembered for so much, that his last match will just be a tribute, yet the tip of the ice berg in what has been an amazing career."

Just because I'm nice :)

No, but I'm not actually complaining about the quality of the match. I'm simply pointing out that it was low, and that maybe Shawn would want his to be of a higher standard.

Once again, I don't think the match was of a low quality. It wasn't about the moves, it was about the meaning.

No, it won't. It will be Triple H. I'm not saying it will be Benjamin, I'm outlining reasons why it could and indeed should be him. If you'd read the start of my previous post, we could have avoided this misunderstanding. Still, it's cleared up now, so moving on...

And I'm posting why he shouldn't be. All clear?

Now, this is just silly. I'm not claiming that Benjamin NEEDS to beat Shawn to become a main eventer. He could take down Jeff Hardy or Edge just as easily and boom, he's there. What I'm saying is that it'd be perfect for a skilled young guy like Shelton to take the victory in Shawn's final match, and it would solidify his main event status forever. I mean, Shawn is one of the biggest names in wrestling today, and a bonafide legend. So, imagine what it would mean to be able to say "I'm the man who retired Shawn Michaels". If that doesn't set you up for life, I don't know what does.

If it was going to be a youngster, I still don't think Benjamin has what it takes. For reasons I've stated above.

[Colamania]

These people have spent their lives putting people over. A last match shouldn't have to be about that. Flair is a great example. No, it wasn't a match with precision, and yes, there were botches. But it conveyed what it was supposed to - the sadness at Flair retiring and a thank you for all he'd done. I think Shawn would be really suited to something like this.

Did it? It certainly didn't convey that to me. The aftermath, and particularly the following Raw, they conveyed the sadness. The only sad thing about the match itself was the sorry state of these two old men putting on one of the worst matches of either of their careers when it was supposed to be a WrestleMania main event, and a fond farewell to one of the all-time greats.

Oh I'm not denying he's had great matches, his with Shawn was one of my favourites. But is he really good enough to be the face of the company, or one of them? I love him, so don't think I'm a hater. But I also don't see him drawing money as champion.

I wouldn't think you're a hater, because I think hater is a stupid term. You either like someone, or you don't. I don't consider myself or anyone else "a hater" of anyone or anything. But, I don't see how you can say that Benjamin wouldn't draw. He was already massively popular once before, during his fued with Evolution, and he's got the perfect combination of mat skills and high-flying ability. Anybody who says he doesn't do high-flying has never seen WrestleMania 21, 22 or 24, just to name a few. All he needs are the mic skills, which he's developing at the moment, and have already improved during his run as The Gold Standard.

You implied he was a semi-permanent wrestler in the Main Event now, and retiring Shawn would solidify that. I don't think simply retiring Shawn will get Benjamin a full ME place.

No, I didn't imply that, and I'd appreciate if you stopped trying to tell me what I said. I said he would become a permanent main eventer if he retired HBK. I was implying by that (get ready for this) that he would become a permanent main eventer if he retired HBK. And no, I don't mean if he just retired Michaels out of the blue, that'd be stupid. But I don't think Shawn's planning to retire next week. With a decent fued with Hardy or Edge first, then a good 3 or 4 month battle with Shawn (Survivor Series - WrestleMania sounds sensible) Benjamin would become one of the biggest stars in WWE.

Triple H - Definately an option, and at the moment probably my favourite. The 2 have had such brilliant careers, and I'm a fan of HHH. Every WWE fan is familiar with the amount of history between the 2, whether it's love or hatred. Their matches have also always been brilliant. I love seeing them in the ring together, whether together or apart, as you just know you're going to see something special.

I'd never like to see them have another feud, as I think it's been done to the death and would definately take away from every other brilliant thing they've done in the ring. Fans should always remember the past matches they've had, as if they had anymore people would remember this feud for the many who would comaplin "We've seen it all before". However the one thing they haven't seen before is Triple H ending Shawn's career, in Shawns last ever match.

Hulk Hogan - The two had a good match a few years back, and Hogan definately has the fanbase to make this huge. However Shawn doesn't need that, and it'd be upsetting to see Shawn's career ended by this man. The 2 just don't compliment each others styles at all, and even though they can work together, I'd much rather see someone else who Shawn works with brilliantly.

Also, as I stated above, I want Shawn to win his final match. With the people we have at WWE, I think I can say quite easily that Shawn Michaels would not win if put against Hogan. Due to his 'hero' status with many fans, they would be unhappy with him losing, despite it being Shawn's match.

Austin/The Rock - I'm sure you know what I mean by classifying them together. They're both gone now, but still firm in the fans hearts, and still classed as big stars by the majority. Both have been the face of WWE, and everyone knows who they are, even the completely new fans.

Shawn and Austin had a great match before Shawn retired in 1998. Just imagine how much better it'd have been if Shawn wasn't on his way out due to an injury that bad? I think they could really have a good match, and I'd love to see it happen. However, same stands for with Hogan, would he come back to lose? He may do, but I can't see it as completely sure.

And also, a problem with bringing a wrestler such as The Rock, Austin or Hogan back for just that one night, is that the fact it's Shawn's last match would be taken away from. He deserves all attention to be on him, and every cheer to be for him and his career. I can't see it happening with these people returning.

So, you start off by presenting no less than four options for people who couldn't possibly need this less. Triple H is already one of the two biggest stars on the roster, and so he doesn't need to retire Shawn Michaels to make himself any bigger. And as for the other three, they're all retired from in-ring competition, with Austin only re-appearing as a guest referee every Cyber Sunday, and neither Hulk nor Rock look like they're ever coming back. So, the only possible suggestion of of these four is Triple H, and as I've already said, while I know in my heart it will be him, it doesn't need to be him and when it comes down to it, it shouldn't be him.

Mr Kennedy - Has A LOT of potential at being huge. I think he's defiately going to be face of the comapny in a few years time. I think the odds on Kennedy ending his career are dependant on when Shawn does decide to retire. If it's Wrestlemania 25, I definately don't think he has a chance. However if it's closer to Wrestlemania 30, I could see him doing this. Not only would it further push his career in the right direction, it would also instantly give him a hall of fame name, if he wasn't aslready at that stage.

Now you're talking. I'd love it to be Kennedy. If it isn't Benjamin, this is my second choice. However, the reason I'd put Benjamin first is that he needs it more. Kennedy already has challenges for the World Title under his belt, and he's beaten names including Batista and even The Undertaker. Plus, Kennedy has his whole "I beat 7 former world champions in one year" thing to fall back on, so I believe the honour of taking the career of Shawn Michaels should go to Shelton.

Once again, I don't think the match was of a low quality. It wasn't about the moves, it was about the meaning.

Once again, I don't think the match itself put that meaning over, not until the last 10 seconds anyway.

And I'm posting why he shouldn't be. All clear?

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

If it was going to be a youngster, I still don't think Benjamin has what it takes. For reasons I've stated above.

And I do think he has what it takes, for reasons stated above. Shelton has the talent, he's gaining the charisma, and he deserves the oppertunity. I don't see why he shouldn't be the man to beat HBK.

[GameOver]

Would have to b at Wrestlemania, as Shawn always steals the show and his last match would excel that even further. However, winning the title? That to me would look like they were sticking it to Bret Hart jus that little bit more, to purposely go against tradition when that's Vince's reason for screwing Bret in the first place.

Um no Vince "screwed" Bret cause he didn't want him to jump ship and take the title with him like Alundra Blayze did

HBK isn't jumping ship to the competition, he's retiring from full time activity, we are assuming thats still not set in stone.

If he was to win the world Title then retire, would he not be the only guy in WWE History to have retired as World Champion? That would totally turn around the shit his character has gone through the past yr, from a wrestling story stand point.

I mean think about ever since he beat Ric Flair at WrestleMania 24 he's been kinda on a downhill slide character wise, he got "blamed" for not jobbing to Flair, Jericho put him through hell, and now JBL is owning him

Question is who will be the champ for him to beat. Personally i think DX should have one final tussle and have it for the World Title. Kinda like the Mega Powers exploding at WrestleMania 5. They've set the scene already with Triple H questioning HBK's decisions as of late, that was also the catalyst of there fued when Shawn returned the first time.

I was watching Raw the night following WrestleMania 14 when Austin beat Shawn, and Trips came out and was sayihng as such "You said trust me, You said it's in the bag" "And you dropped the ball Shawn, but don't worry I'll make the decisions now, you just stay home"

But thats just a dream. It's more likely HBK will be facing the Undertaker in a Legend Career vs Undertaker Mania Streak, irony HBK puts Flair out, then 1 yr later he himself loses a retirement match

[Saiquan]

The following are choices to help shawn end his amazing Career:

Triple H: Lord knows they've been friends ever since Trips came into what was the World Wrestling Federation. It would be simply good to see these to go at it as they work great together and have put on some of the best matches in the past, im sure im not the only one who remembers their Hell In A Cell match. Plus as someone said earlier when Shawn lost at Mania 14 Hunter's exact words were " Don't worry shawn, although you dropped the ball i will call the shot now, you jus go home and rest"

Chris Jericho: This one basically explains itself. Every time these two get together all i hear is " MATCH OF THE YEAR!!". Their Wrestlemania 19 match was one hell of a show and im pretty sure this one would be as well. But just like the Triple H match we've seen this match up done to death, could you stand to see it again?

The Undertaker: Personally if Shawn was going to retire i would love to see it be against this guy. They have only had one high caliber match and two others that were cheated. The problem with this is that i want to see Shwan win his last match and lets be honest, no body wants the damn streak to end. Plus im betting $1000 that Shawn's final match is at Wrestlemania 26 when their in Glendale,Arizona.

The point im trying to get across is that i really can't tell you his final match up is going to be with, whether its against a rookie like Mr.Kennedy, Shelton, or MVP i couldn't tell you but whoever its going to be against you can bet on a hell of a match.

[Leeds Guy]

Only 1 man should Face HBK at Mania in his last match and that is HHH.

The history these 2 have had is Incredible, they are great friends, have been great enemies, has some stellar matches against each other and always work well together. I dont think the Feud shouldnt be soured by Heel Vs Face, i think it should be face vs face two friends putting on a great match to end a great career.

Ideally id love to see Bret hart vs HBK but we all know thats never gonna happen

[BeansOnToastUK]

Everyone knows that in the Wrestling business you traditionally retire on a loss.

HBK should win the title again before he retires and i possible good ending would be to drop the belt at Wrestlemania to a person he admires and can pass the torch onto.

It has been said that HBK recently stated he feels fine and thinks he still has a couple of years still in him. He is 44 and he now wrestles a lighter schedule and has adapted his wrestling style to cope with this schedule.

[The-Legend-Killer]

I think shawn michaels should go out with one hell of a bang. heres what i was thinking. Make shawn a huge face for wrestlemaia and have a fatal 4 way elimination match Orton,Michaels,Cena,Batista. Michaels with the match with sweet shin music on Orton (last person remanin) pins him and dose a trish stratus retires with the title

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

It will most likely be against triple h although i would like to see him job to an upcoming star on his way out but whatever. Heres an idea for his final match with Triple H, which of course should take place at wrestlemania because shawn michaels is Mr. Wrestlemania.

Vince McMahon does the same thing to Shawn Michaels that he did to Ric Flair, he says that the next time he loses his career will be over. Michaels goes through a series of career threatening matches winning them and keeping his career alive.

Then out comes Vince McMahon and announces that at Wrestlemania, shawn michaels will be in a career threatening match aainst his own friend Triple H. Triple H will go to Shawn and say he doesn't want to put him out but shawn tells triple h that he doesn't want him to hold anything back at wrestlemania, he says he wants the best of the game. Triple H promises to give him his best and says that it will be a wrestlemania match no one will ever forget. Similar build up to the Shawn Michaels vs. flair match with the added dimension that these 2 are actually best friends.

At wrestlemania, Shawn Michaels and Triple H show each other respect and put on an epic match. They go back and forth and triple h eventually hits the pedigree. 1,2, michaels kicks out. Triple H picks up Michaels and hits a second pedigree, Michaels kicks out again. Then Triple H hits a thrid pedigree and Michaels kicks out for a 3rd time. Michaels will not die, he does not want his career to be over.

Triple H cannot believe it, he doesnt know what he has to do to finally put Michaels away. He stands up and then proceeds to set Michaels up for the sharpshooter. He locks in the sharpshooter in the center of the ring, michaels crawls to the ropes but keeps getting dragged away, Vince McMahon makes his way down to the ring at this time. he has comes to watch michaels suffer and have his career ended. Michaels is still in the sharpshooter back in the middle of the ring, hes fading but refuses to give up and end his career. Vince McMahon then calls for the bell the same way he did in Montreal at the 1997 survivor series. Michaels is screwed, and his career is now over.

Triple H and Vince McMahon celebrate as triple h continues the assault on michaels in the ring. They wlak out of wrestlemania triumphantly.

Michaels may have lost the match, but he was screwed, he never gave up and quit because the desire to continue his wrestlign career was so strong. Triple H is now one of THE top heels in history. He screwed over his best friend on the grandest stage of all, ending his best freinds career and he is now once again aligned with Vince.
Thoughts???

[italyanstallyan]

It will most likely be against triple h although i would like to see him job to an upcoming star on his way out but whatever. Heres an idea for his final match with Triple H, which of course should take place at wrestlemania because shawn michaels is Mr. Wrestlemania.

Vince McMahon does the same thing to Shawn Michaels that he did to Ric Flair, he says that the next time he loses his career will be over. Michaels goes through a series of career threatening matches winning them and keeping his career alive.

Then out comes Vince McMahon and announces that at Wrestlemania, shawn michaels will be in a career threatening match aainst his own friend Triple H. Triple H will go to Shawn and say he doesn't want to put him out but shawn tells triple h that he doesn't want him to hold anything back at wrestlemania, he says he wants the best of the game. Triple H promises to give him his best and says that it will be a wrestlemania match no one will ever forget. Similar build up to the Shawn Michaels vs. flair match with the added dimension that these 2 are actually best friends.

At wrestlemania, Shawn Michaels and Triple H show each other respect and put on an epic match. They go back and forth and triple h eventually hits the pedigree. 1,2, michaels kicks out. Triple H picks up Michaels and hits a second pedigree, Michaels kicks out again. Then Triple H hits a thrid pedigree and Michaels kicks out for a 3rd time. Michaels will not die, he does not want his career to be over.

Triple H cannot believe it, he doesnt know what he has to do to finally put Michaels away. He stands up and then proceeds to set Michaels up for the sharpshooter. He locks in the sharpshooter in the center of the ring, michaels crawls to the ropes but keeps getting dragged away, Vince McMahon makes his way down to the ring at this time. he has comes to watch michaels suffer and have his career ended. Michaels is still in the sharpshooter back in the middle of the ring, hes fading but refuses to give up and end his career. Vince McMahon then calls for the bell the same way he did in Montreal at the 1997 survivor series. Michaels is screwed, and his career is now over.

Triple H and Vince McMahon celebrate as triple h continues the assault on michaels in the ring. They wlak out of wrestlemania triumphantly.

Michaels may have lost the match, but he was screwed, he never gave up and quit because the desire to continue his wrestlign career was so strong. Triple H is now one of THE top heels in history. He screwed over his best friend on the grandest stage of all, ending his best freinds career and he is now once again aligned with Vince.
Thoughts???

I don't like. It's just a mix of Flair's ending and the MSJ. I have changed my mind slightly from my OP though. I think Triple H should be champion going into WrestleMania and Michaels wins the Royal Rumble. He then decides to challenge Triple H in the one match that they haven't had before, an Iron Man match. During the match, the scored is tied at 1-1 and it goes into sudden death overtime. Michaels hits the SCM on Triple H out of nowhere and wins the belt just like when he won it for the first time. The two men get up and celebrate together. Michaels retires with the belt and a tournament is held the next night on Raw or SmackDown to decide the next champion.

[D2J2009]

Triple h will, in my mind, be shawn michaels final opponent, and when he is gone, Triple H won't be obviously, so we will need a ne Degeneration X, and as a replacement for HBK, i would recomend Y2J......it sounds corny, but without a DX, WWE would lose lots of ratings, and who better to be a new HBK than the old Chris jericho, Y2J, both christians, and both are unique and charismatic

[just2Cme]

His final match should be hyped up very well...Than the man who defeats him will be non other than the one and only super cena. At WM28 HBK will chose to do what no man has ever done before...beat John cena clean in a title match. After a forty minute match of HBK carrying cena in the match, cena hits two moves during the match, the FU and STFU for the win. Afterwards HBK retires...losing his smile.

[Stoppa]

This is totally not going to happen, and I know that before I even type it. Shawn is my second favorite wrestler of all time. Behind Sting. That being said, a HBK-Stinger bout is a dream match for a lot of people. Sting's career is probably going to end a lil' bit before Shawn's, admitedly. But if "I" could chose a dream last match for both of them, it would be against each other, with both men retiring afterward. The winner?

A time limit draw of course. :-)

[Legendary_Undertaker]

I honestly think a match at wrestlemania would be a perfect end to HBK's career but to have him lose his last match isn't something fitting of his iconic career ( like victoria) however a loss to the right person wouldn't hurt his legacy as a loss to a up and comer would having him lose to someone like cody rhodes in his last match would hurt him way more than help his legenday status.

My I dea would be for him to face the Undertaker at wrestlemania in a title vs streak match that way if he indeed did lose his last match it wouldn't bother anyone to have him lose to another legend especially someone who he has a well documented past with

[truk24]

I like the idea of pitting HBK's career v.s Taker's streak, but here is my take. HBK should win, and end Taker's streak. Then on RAW the next night retire while Taker (out of character) raising his hand to a roar of cheers. It has a nice feel because HBK accomplishes the task of doing what no one else had done before him. Copying his career as a pioneer of the industry. Taker still goes on, and hardly loses face losing to HBK.

[hArdymAriomArk]

Ok, my dream career ending match for Shawn would be this.

It would of course have to be a WM, maybe next year or the year after. It would build up for a few months from a feud between him and.... Morrison.

About 6 months b4 WM Shawn could announce that the next WM he will be wrestling in his last match and that he wants someone to carry on his legacy. This is were he takes Morrison under his wing and the 2 of them continue wrestling together and feuding with others. Sort of like how Jericho took Cade under his wing in the Michaels/Jericho feud but have Morrison doing a bit more than Cade did for Y2J.

Then have at the Rumble Michaels and Morrison 2 of the last 3 or 4 and have Morrison eliminate Michaels. This could set up a match between the 2 at WM. This would be awesome i think because Shawn would have trained up this guy to continue his legacy only to have to wrestle him in his last match. I would have Morrison beat Shawn and the 2 of them make up after the match and Shawn saying that this is exactly the kind of guy he wants to continue in his footsteps.

What do you guys think about this, i thought about what i would like Shawn's last match to be and this got me very excited, even though it is just a wish.....

[sharu7]

John morrison? Seriously? I think at wrestlemania it should be taker vs hbk, hbk ends the streak, and then they both retire.

[kenvin100]

John morrison? Seriously? I think at wrestlemania it should be taker vs hbk, hbk ends the streak, and then they both retire.

I doubt WWE wants to end two great careers likethat at once. Its kinda like saying "Hey induct Austin and the Rock on the same year" That would be cool if Rock was inducted but again, its giving a "little too much candy."

I agree that Morrison would be a great candidate to end HBK's career, but not yet, maybe in 2-3 yrs time, we can see those two in a great match. (I'd like to see a ladder match :D)

[Phoenix]

No matter what HBK's final match will be Wrestlemania, unless cause of injury.

It would be nice to see HBK hold the World Title for his final match at Wrestlemania and lose it as part of passing the torch, ala Wrestlemania 14. I like the idea of him raising another profile through it. Though I'd like if he didn't give away it's his final match maybe and announce it on Raw the next night? Might be anti-hype though...

[Christian Battlez]

I've been thinking about this actually. And don;t get me wrong, I don't want Shawn to retire at all, but it'd be stupid for someone to think that this isn't on his mind if not everyone elses. He isn't in the same physical condition as he has been. and even though that doesn't make much difference to us as the fans as he is still brilliant in the ring, it makes a lot of difference to Shawn Michaels, as he's the one who feels the pain and tiredness that many other people don't understand.

With your suggestion, the one thing I don't understand is him winning the belt the day he retires, I find this pointless. However what I wouldn't fnd pointless is him having a championship run in his final year of wresling, or at least some time before he retires. I don't think many would disagree with the fact he deserves it, and definately deserves more runs than the amount he has been given.

I think Shawn, unlike Ric, should win his last match. the storyline with Flair was good, for him. However I don't think it'd work with Shawn. I think he should set a date, e.g. a Wrestlemania, and tell the world that will be his last match, regardless of win or lose. Him losing the match wouldn't be a bad thing, or a bad reflection of his career, as it certainly wasn't for Flair, however due to the nature of his gimmick of going out compared to Flairs, Shawn should win.

When trying to determine who should be the person to end his career, I think it's safe to say very few people have earned that honour. With Ric Flair, they chose a brilliant superstar to end his career, someone who always has great matches, and who had definately earned that. Out of respect for Flair, Shawn was one of few people who really should have been allowed to end the legacy. This is something Shawn Michaels also deserves. However, take Shawn out of the equation and who are we left with?

Triple H - Definately an option, and at the moment probably my favourite. The 2 have had such brilliant careers, and I'm a fan of HHH. Every WWE fan is familiar with the amount of history between the 2, whether it's love or hatred. Their matches have also always been brilliant. I love seeing them in the ring together, whether together or apart, as you just know you're going to see something special.

I'd never like to see them have another feud, as I think it's been done to the death and would definately take away from every other brilliant thing they've done in the ring. Fans should always remember the past matches they've had, as if they had anymore people would remember this feud for the many who would comaplin "We've seen it all before". However the one thing they haven't seen before is Triple H ending Shawn's career, in Shawns last ever match.

Hulk Hogan - The two had a good match a few years back, and Hogan definately has the fanbase to make this huge. However Shawn doesn't need that, and it'd be upsetting to see Shawn's career ended by this man. The 2 just don't compliment each others styles at all, and even though they can work together, I'd much rather see someone else who Shawn works with brilliantly.

Also, as I stated above, I want Shawn to win his final match. With the people we have at WWE, I think I can say quite easily that Shawn Michaels would not win if put against Hogan. Due to his 'hero' status with many fans, they would be unhappy with him losing, despite it being Shawn's match.

Austin/The Rock - I'm sure you know what I mean by classifying them together. They're both gone now, but still firm in the fans hearts, and still classed as big stars by the majority. Both have been the face of WWE, and everyone knows who they are, even the completely new fans.

Shawn and Austin had a great match before Shawn retired in 1998. Just imagine how much better it'd have been if Shawn wasn't on his way out due to an injury that bad? I think they could really have a good match, and I'd love to see it happen. However, same stands for with Hogan, would he come back to lose? He may do, but I can't see it as completely sure.

And also, a problem with bringing a wrestler such as The Rock, Austin or Hogan back for just that one night, is that the fact it's Shawn's last match would be taken away from. He deserves all attention to be on him, and every cheer to be for him and his career. I can't see it happening with these people returning.

Mr Kennedy - Has A LOT of potential at being huge. I think he's defiately going to be face of the comapny in a few years time. I think the odds on Kennedy ending his career are dependant on when Shawn does decide to retire. If it's Wrestlemania 25, I definately don't think he has a chance. However if it's closer to Wrestlemania 30, I could see him doing this. Not only would it further push his career in the right direction, it would also instantly give him a hall of fame name, if he wasn't aslready at that stage.

Whoever ends Shawn's career will automatically go down in history, as it would be one of the biggest things for someone to do. I also think it would fuel heel heat massively. I can't see many fans being happy with Shawn retiring, and if Shawn also lost his last match to this person, the crowd would turn on him like that. IT all depends on the direction they go in, but it would certaily be interesting.

As for type of match, I think in the end it should just be a regular singles match, no titles, no gimmicks, just Goodbye and Thank you Shawn. This way, nothing could take away from the skill we will see of Shawn that last time, and that we know he will deliver in massively, no matter his physical condition. He will be remembered for so much, that his last match will just be a tribute, yet the tip of the ice berg in what has been an amazing career.

The only person you mentioned who would work would be Triple H.Rock,Austin,or Hogan would never come back for that.Kennedy is way too much of a liability. I could only see one of three men.

Triple H-The obvious choice because of the history and the fact that he's Shawn's best friend. I would personally prefer this choice.

Randy Orton-The Legend Killer is the future of wrestling and we all know it. Orton would lock up a spot in the Hall of Fame if he ended Shawn's career. Orton doesn't need this but it would be a huge honor.

John Cena-These two have had nothing but classics. As much as I dislike Cena its nothing to do with his abilities but his character. It's very white meat. But there is no arguing the last time these two competed against one another at WM it was a classic. The rematch on Raw was even better. This match would steal the show.