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Deus1138
03-17-2008, 05:14 PM
I'll admit it, I've never been a fan of the Hardy Boys. Their main talent: taking huge risks...in the past. When they were in their early twenties, they did some crazy stuff in the ring. But being crazy isn't all it takes to be a great performer. If it were, the WWE would be full of Mexicans. The Hardy Boys, Jeff especially, are an anachronism. The only thing they have done to modify their "character" over the last decade is to split up. They're still the same looking "punk/hardcore rockers" they were almost a decade ago. Really, Jeff, it's time to grow up! I mean, you're 30 now! Stop trying to act like someone 20 years old and "hardcore" from 1996! The Hardy's give interviews marginally more impressive than monotone Linda McMahon.

The Hardy's always seem to have some drama, usually involving drugs. Enough already. Vince was right to suspend Jeff. He should have fired him. Jeff has had problems in the past. WWE recently gave him a huge push to main event status, and what does he do? Violates the wellness policy again. Some people just don't learn. He obviously has serious issues. Want some proof? Well, how many times has he been suspended for stuff like this? How many times has he been fired for stuff like this? And I think the icing on the proof cake is... HE'S LIVING IN A DOUBLE WIDE!! He's a main event attraction now, and he can't afford anything better than a double wide? Pizza delivery guys can afford better than a double wide! Jeff is obviously too immature to handle his money and is spending it improperly if he has to live in a double wide at this stage in his life.

The Hardy's need to wake up and realize just because they were the young, crazy, hardcore stuntmen that everyone loved a decade ago, you need to update your look, hone your mic skills, and lose the freakin drama already!!

klunderbunker
03-17-2008, 05:25 PM
This doesn't really apply to the Hardys but just Matt. Matt has been a model employee, but he's just had bad luck with injuries. Jeff hasn't gotten hurt but just makes stupid decision. Matt seemingly has grown up quite a bit. His promos aren't the best but he's much more mature. He seems like a safe fit for the company while Jeff has proven his faults. The Hardys are virtually dead, and Matt Hardy is all that's left of them.

RosiePosieRock-n-Roll
03-17-2008, 05:28 PM
I am a huge Jeff Hardy fan. I think Matt Hardy is boring.
I think the hole issue with the drugs and messing up his chance to make something of himself was totally stupid. But that is the same for many wrestlers who cant seem to learn there lessons about drugs. Look it took Shawn Michaels a long time to get over his issues.

And for living in a double wide...who cares what you live in. Some people would rather keep there money (for things like drugs).
But I do agree he needs to really clean himself up before he ends up a dead beat wrestler or before he really harms himself.

Rosie Posie Rock-n-Roll

jpfizzle
03-17-2008, 05:32 PM
The life of Jeff Hardy is looking like a train wreck waiting to happen, and i can assure all the hardy haters it will be a tragic one when it does. Agreed the jeff hardy gimmick hasent changed much over the last 10 years but up untill recently there hasent been any need to change it, people have just bought it.

How on earth is Matt Hardy getting caught up in all of this, just because of his last name? This is the reason that when fully fit he has never quite gotten out of Jeff Hardys shadow and got a memorable push. In your post you never even mentioned Matt by his full name, wheras you mentioned Jeff about ten times!

The two are completly different people, the fact that they have the same last name should not mean that matt is tarred with the same brush as Jeff.

Deus1138
03-17-2008, 05:33 PM
Jeff Hardy is on his way to becoming like Jake Roberts.

Jeff and Matt both have dated gimmicks. Really, guys, you're doing the same corny dance when you come out that you've been doing since you debuted in the mid 90's. I think it's time to update. Even Metallica cut their hair when they realized it was time to!

Neither one of them can give a promo to save their life.

The fact that Jeff is living in a trailer at this point in his career is proof he has poor decision making skills. He's obviously spending his money on partying and drugs rather than investing it wisely.

Deus1138
03-17-2008, 05:35 PM
Ok, Matt hasn't had the same drug problems Jeff has had. But everything else I've said applies to him. His gimmick hasn't changed. You say it's because they haven't had to. Sorry...just because a bunch of white trash female fans still scream for them isn't enough to convince me they are contemporary and relevant.

Matt needs to step up his game: update his look and learn how to give a freakin interview!

wrestlingfan701
03-17-2008, 05:39 PM
To be honest, you're mainly just talking about Jeff and not so much Matt. Because Jeff is the one who took most of the risks and is the less mature one of the hardys. He's the one who is and always was crazier of the two. And Jeff has always been the one to get in more trouble, especially with drugs. The only things I can even recall that Matt has handled badly in his career are threatening to quit in 2001 if he didn't receive a singles title reign (at the time jeff had just had a brief IC title reign), so they gave the 2nd longest reign ever with the now-defunct European title. And he also perhaps shouldn't have handled his personal problems with edge and lita at the time of their split the way he did.

But, as for the hardys growing up and not acting like whatever it is you're saying they act like, I honestly don't get what you mean with Matt. Because he just does his job week in and week out, he doesn't look any younger than he is and certainly doesn't act like it either. So, I don't at all get why you think Matt needs to grow up. But, I can definately see where you're coming from when you talk about Jeff in that way. His look hasn't changed since he debuted at the age of 16, now he's 30 or older? His wrestling skills are awful in the ring, rarely says much on the stick, but has always somehow managed to get a positive crowd reaction with his usual spot monkey routine. So, the only reasons he really received his push are just because of his overness with the crowd and his ability to sell merchandise, but that's about it.

MrScott
03-17-2008, 05:41 PM
living in a double wide is nothing to be ashamed of, and if you think of it makes more sence then an actual big house. the guy will be home like what 50-100 days a year if that?

no need to have anything else when your barely going to be home. have a few necesities, make it feel like home for the little amount of time you'll spend there.

its also going to be alot less expensive.

but your other point is also quite valid, that Jeff probably hasn't done that much with his money other then blow it. but he has only been a potential main eventer for a couple of months, past that its been career mid carder when hes even been with the company.

as has been said before, matt is one of the wwe's best employee's in terms of loyalty's and dependability even while his brother screws himself over. its a shame matt gets draged down by it. which is the main reason why jeffs actions annoy me.

fuck your own life away on your own time, but straighten yourself up before your actions sink your brother to by association

Deus1138
03-17-2008, 05:51 PM
I'm not saying Jeff needs to have a Hogan-esque mansion. I understand he is on the road a lot. So is everyone else. A house is an investment. It's like a savings account. If he had any sense of responsibility, he would have bought a nice, decent house years ago and let it appreciate. Sorry, but double wides don't appreciate. Jeff Hardy doesn't strike me as the type who lives frugally so he'll have money in the future, ala Clark Howard. Heck, even he owns a really nice house. The whole trailer thing is just proof that Jeff is immature and irresponsible.

klunderbunker
03-17-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm not saying Jeff needs to have a Hogan-esque mansion. I understand he is on the road a lot. So is everyone else. A house is an investment. It's like a savings account. If he had any sense of responsibility, he would have bought a nice, decent house years ago and let it appreciate. Sorry, but double wides don't appreciate. Jeff Hardy doesn't strike me as the type who lives frugally so he'll have money in the future, ala Clark Howard. Heck, even he owns a really nice house. The whole trailer thing is just proof that Jeff is immature and irresponsible.

That's not a fairsteent to make. Just because he doesn't live in a big ncie home doesn't mean that he hasn't saved his money. For all we know he has the majority of his money saved up in a bank account. There's no way of telling what goes through his head as far as money. Maybe he has made some mistake, but just because he doesn't live in a mansion doesn't mean he's incompetent.

justinsayne
03-17-2008, 06:37 PM
That's not a fairsteent to make. Just because he doesn't live in a big ncie home doesn't mean that he hasn't saved his money. For all we know he has the majority of his money saved up in a bank account. There's no way of telling what goes through his head as far as money. Maybe he has made some mistake, but just because he doesn't live in a mansion doesn't mean he's incompetent.

No what makes him incompetent, is the fact that he had everything he owned in there and didn't purchase home owners insurance, it not like he was hurting for money or anything, home owners insurance would just be a common sense thing, I hope he does have the majority of his money in a bank account, cause it looks like he's got a lot of shit to replace

klunderbunker
03-17-2008, 06:42 PM
I completley forgot about that part of it. That does indeed make him incompetent. Even if it was just a trailer insurance isn't something you just don't get. I'm 20 and I have insurance on some of the stuff i own. There's no excuse to not have it when you're more than likeley a millionaire. I don't know what's going on in his head, but he needs to figure it out and quick, before he isn't getting that fat paycheck anymore.

wlannon
03-17-2008, 07:58 PM
you keep throwing a fit about jeff living in a double wide. why does it matter to you where he lives? just because he lives in a double wide, he's bad with money? i remember watching a show on tv recently about a married couple that made over a million dollars each a year and ate out of the trash! its personal comfort and decision as to where someone lives and that is no reason to judge someone. and by the way, you do realize that he owns the land the trailer was on right? its where he had his studio and moto-cross track. but that doesn't mean anything does it?

Deus1138
03-17-2008, 08:42 PM
No, it doesn't matter much to me. He's an idiot. He's demonstrated that time and time again over the last 5 years. He's been suspended for drugs. He's been fired. He's been given a huge push and now he's blown it. He's irresponsible with his money. You guys act like he's living in a trailer because he's trying to save his money. Anyone that worried about saving their money would have been RESPONSIBLE enough to get home owner's insurance. He probably doesn't even have stuff to wear to Monday Night Raw now! Look at how he's living! He's got a trailer sitting on a little piece of land he bought in front of his motocross track. Dude, really, grow up!! You think that is successful?? He's living the dream of a 20 year old high school drop out! He's doing well for a drop out who installs window tint for a living. But someone who has been working for the WWE as long as he has, he should have something more to show for it. The simple fact that he has no insurance speaks volumes of his level of responsibility.

wlannon
03-17-2008, 08:48 PM
Well for it not mattering much to you, you sure do go on and on and on about it. So what if he lives in a trailer? Honestly, how many people expect to have a fire in their home? no one that i know of! and did you ever think he doesnt want a big house? really what need does he have for one when he lives alone with his girlfriend? some couples prefer smaller spaces.

so you're saying umaga, kennedy, morrison, and booker t are stupid? they were all suspended for steroids. everyone makes mistakes, just deal with it and move on already.
and oh yeah, kennedy was in for a BIG push when he got suspended, wasn't he going to be revealed as vince's son before he got busted? so other than trying to get it out that you despise jeff hardy and bash him for what he lives in, he made a choice to not have insurance. that doesnt mean in any way that he is not responsible with money.

Deus1138
03-17-2008, 09:16 PM
Right, Jeff Hardy is another JBL when it comes to money. Please. Give me a break. I'm sorry if I've trashed the white trash hero, Jeff Hardy, but he deserves it. And yes, everyone else who got suspended is stupid too. They knew the rules. They chose to ignore them. Booker T?? You really expected me to say that guy wasn't an idiot?? He can barely string together a coherent sentence!

Jeff Hardy is dumb white trash. Anyone who can't see it, well, it obviously hits a little too close to home. Shawn Michaels gave up his headbands and his "Rockers" persona years ago. Jeff, on the other hand, is still stuck with the same look and gimmick as he burst onto the national scene with....like a decade ago. He's like Disco Inferno, but for real...not a parody!

Fire Jeff Hardy now! Use the money saved to give Matt some classes on how to give a promo and interview.

realchamp22
03-17-2008, 11:36 PM
Seriously dude, what is problem

Why are commenting on Jeff Hardy’s personal life, you don't even know him. Who cares if he doesn't have home owners insurance or even if he is irresponsible with money it doesn't affect you, get over it.

His mistake
Dude, get off your fucking high horse or are you the ONLY person in the world that has never in their life made a huge mistake
About his in-ring abilities
Like him or hate him he's able to draw a huge crowd. He may not be the most technical isn’t be the best on a stick but, he can keep a crowd interested in his match which is something a lot of wrestlers can't do. You may not like his high risk style but, there isn’t any reason to drag his name through shit for that.

Him needing a gimmick change
Why would change his gimmick it’s working him, Matt too, if there was a reason to change their gimmick they would but people are still cheering them with the “punk/ hardcore rocker” they‘ve used for the past 10 years and if you don’t like it don’t watch their matches

Matt Hardy’s mic skills
Have you ever used a mic on a wrestling show its nerve wrecking let alone talking to the entire world and on a personal note I Matt hardy’s mic skill, yes they’re not the best but he’s entertaining and can say what he needs to without making a long winded speech

Seriously mate you sound like a wannabe wrestler that I don’t tried out for OMEGA and got laughed out of there or something. Matt is coming back any day now (my bet with a US title in the immanent future) and Jeff will be back after the suspension with as many fans cheering him as ever so if you can’t stand them get over it or change the channel

wlannon
03-18-2008, 04:27 AM
Right, Jeff Hardy is another JBL when it comes to money. Please. Give me a break. I'm sorry if I've trashed the white trash hero, Jeff Hardy, but he deserves it. And yes, everyone else who got suspended is stupid too. They knew the rules. They chose to ignore them. Booker T?? You really expected me to say that guy wasn't an idiot?? He can barely string together a coherent sentence!

Jeff Hardy is dumb white trash. Anyone who can't see it, well, it obviously hits a little too close to home. Shawn Michaels gave up his headbands and his "Rockers" persona years ago. Jeff, on the other hand, is still stuck with the same look and gimmick as he burst onto the national scene with....like a decade ago. He's like Disco Inferno, but for real...not a parody!

Fire Jeff Hardy now! Use the money saved to give Matt some classes on how to give a promo and interview.


Seriously dude, did someone piss in your cheerios or something? You're saying he's white trash because he lives in a trailer and his fans are white trash because of it? So what if he lives in a damn trailer! its his choice to live there and if he likes it, who the hell are you to judge? actually, what business is it of anyones what the hell he lives in? and who said anything about him being like jbl with his money? not many people invest money like jbl has done over the years, and it helps that he has a wife in that line of business as well. just because he lives in a trailer doesnt mean he's irresponsible with his money. it just means he doesnt need some big fancy house to make him happy. seems to me he just needs his trailer, land, animals and girlfriend and he's a happy man. why change a gimmick that is working and is over with the crowds? some gimmick changes are terrible and ruin the wrestler, so why change something that theres nothing wrong with?

as far as matt goes, i dont see where he is exactly terrible on the mic. he could improve theres no doubt about that. but like it was said before, it is difficult for some people to speak in front of large groups of people and will take some time to get used too, and if not given the time by vince or anyone else, how is he going to improve?

jounint
03-18-2008, 10:59 AM
I can not believe that you Hardy haters are going on about Jeff's home and Matt's mic skills. What is wrong with living in a trailer? I think if he chooses to live there it's none of your concern. Except, as much as you all claim to not care, you go on about how immature Jeff is and exactly what makes him such an irresponsible person. Jeff could live where ever he wants, and live in what ever he wants, it's his choice, where does all of this affect you? Matt's mic skills? C'mon, how much time was he ever given to even develop his mic skills? The only incompetent people here are the ones who think a man's home speaks for his maturity and investment skills. Idiots.

FoleyIsGod
03-18-2008, 11:15 AM
If Jeff lives in a trailer and it makes him happy, leave him be. He is content with his life, doesnt need a big e-peen extension by having a massive house, 16 cars.

To me, all that Jeff seems to need is his pets and his girlfriend.

Maybe Dues is pissed off because he has a huge house, a trophy wife and 3 cars in the drive but is still not happy?

NYSandman
03-18-2008, 12:06 PM
Ok, Matt hasn't had the same drug problems Jeff has had. But everything else I've said applies to him. His gimmick hasn't changed. You say it's because they haven't had to. Sorry...just because a bunch of white trash female fans still scream for them isn't enough to convince me they are contemporary and relevant.

Matt needs to step up his game: update his look and learn how to give a freakin interview!
What makes these fans "white trash"? I've seen plenty of guys cheering for them too, of all colors, and we can't forget the hormonally crazed teenage girls who cheer for Cena.

I agree, however, that the Hardys time has come and gone. I also feel it is a mistake to keep talent that specifically tailors to young people when that talent takes drugs.

This is a bad message for WWE to be sending. I also believe that WWE should come right out and say he was suspended for drug use. This would show fans that drugs are NOT cool in the WWE, and would show corporate America that the WWE isn't playing anymore, and is serious about ridding itself of drugs.

This isn't a guy who made a one time mistake, either. This has happened before with Jeff, and, believe me, if he is not fired before his 60 days are up, it will happen again.

It shocks me how he cannot look at Jake, Pilmann, Rick Rude and all the rest who have either died, ruined their lives, or buried their careers because of drug addiction.

I don't want to hear that life "on the road" is hard, either. If you become a pro wrestler, you know what you are getting into, so either deal with it or do something else.

The Hardys are a thing of the past, and will either be relegated to mid-card, curtain jerkers, or they will just disappear all together.

To quote Chris Rock: "Sad, sad, sad."

shua08
03-18-2008, 06:20 PM
Nothin wrong with the Dudley Boys, but how could you rather want them than the Hardyz. The Dudleys are obviously a well known tag team and possibly a HOF team, i guess i think that the Hardyz put on more entertaining matches.

I do agree though that the Hardyz do need to tweek their images a bit. More so Jeff, Matt he has changed his music, tried the V1 thing, but it seems to work for him. Jeff i could see as someone with a whole new look, i think he could do it and pull it off.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007
03-18-2008, 07:56 PM
How on earth is Matt Hardy getting caught up in all of this, just because of his last name? This is the reason that when fully fit he has never quite gotten out of Jeff Hardys shadow and got a memorable push. In your post you never even mentioned Matt by his full name, wheras you mentioned Jeff about ten times!

The reason Matt hasn't been able to get out of Jeff's shadow is because of talent and entertainment, not Jeff's mistakes. Overall, even though Matt might have a slight edge over Jeff in terms of mat-skills, Jeff improves his game far more (and far more often) than Matt, but also is the better entertainer of the two by far. So Matt is out of the spotlight because he's the Bart Gunn to Jeff's Billy Gunn.

Now, as far as the problems go, Jeff eclipses Matt for sure. Matt is more mature and responsible, which is the reason why he isn't suspended. However, you don't push the guys that have no drawing power just because they're responsible. Nunzio does his job very well, but he's not seeing a title match lol.

Performance = Jeff > Matt
Responsibility = Matt > Jeff
Keeping a solid midcard job = Matt > Jeff
Chance to main event = Jeff > Matt

If Jeff had Matt's sense of responsibility, he'd be the WWE champ by now, as he wouldn't have gotten into problems in the past that put a knot in his timeline. Think about how good Jeff would be now, in terms of how much he's improved in the ring in the past few months alone, if he had been able to keep that mindset back when he was younger. Now, Matt's been here all this time, but he's barely improved.


Drama queens? Well, to an extent. I'm sure the road life is hard, but obviously there are people that can do it without succumbing to drugs and alcohol, so in a way, you could classify Jeff as a "drama queen" for not dealing with it like the others.

Mighty NorCal
03-21-2008, 07:09 PM
Eh, I dont think you can associate the dramatics of Jeff to Matt. Id say Matt is superior as a pro wrestler, but doesnt have the "it" factor, or at least not to the degree that Jeff has. People enjoy Matt Hardy, but he wont ever be as over as his brother, becuase he has less charisma, doesnt do the wiggly thing, has normal colored hair, and doesnt jump off of high shit (as often). Matt is good, but lacks the pizazz of Jeff.

Of course he is far superior to Jeff on the moron scale. And I would be MORE than willing to bet that if Matt had half the dumb shit happen that Jeff has, that he wouldnt have a job with WWE. Id def refer to Jeff as a drama queen, if anything. Matt isnt dramatic at all. Or maybe enough?? could be why isnt as over...

HBK-aholic
03-22-2008, 05:52 AM
I liked the Hardyz. And as much as you don't like them, can you honestly deny this is what the WWE needs for their tag division again? The Hardy Boys were out at a time the Tag division actually meant something, and they, along with Edge and Christian, and The Dudley Boyz, put on some of the best tag matches ever. The gimmick matches were awesome, I loved TLC matches with the 6 guys, it really was something incredible.

Now, I do like both guys, but I think they worked better as a team; they, like most teams, should never have split up. Yes, things were working out for Jeff at least, who was in the championship running, but look what happened there.

They should still be a team, it would be good for both the WWE and for their careers. They should go down on top; as a tag team. Which ultimately is what they're good at.

rookie
03-22-2008, 11:56 PM
i personally think that this is a wake up call for jeff and matt to. because now matt no's what he has to do for him to get a title shot. how ever jeff needs to grow up and i think he will now after that second suspension because he doesn't wont to leave the wwe (unless he wonts to do music) because he no's he wont get a job anywhere else. but i think the hardy boyz are cool and not drama queens

The_Mega_Powers
03-24-2008, 08:18 AM
Jeff hardy did have a nice push for him but he will have to earn Vinces trust and get out of the dog house. Look at how long it has taken Carlito to get out of the doghouse. It is a shame because Jeff is one talented person in the ring or should I say risk taker but is on his way to being fired if he has one more episode. He burned his bridge with TNA and he just may have burnt his last with WWE. The 2 biggest companies right now in the united states, he might end up in Japan when all is said and done.

wwe_scotland
03-25-2008, 08:47 PM
First off...I want to address the "white trash" comments earlier...now I'm white and totally not offended...but if the roles where reversed and I had said something similar about an ethnic race...Id be in jail by now. Like I said doesn't offend me so I won't dwell but I thought Id put that out there.



On to the Hardys. I don't believe they are drama queens. For me they are two performers whos paths have seperated over the years. Firstly, Id like tot tackle the issue of Matt Hardy. As a wrestler, his mat skills are really good but also he does bring an arial aspect which breaks it up and leads for very good wrestling matches. I personally thought before his injury. Him and MVP had really entertaining matches (Something of a rareity in WWE as of late). About his microphone skills. They are never going to be the best and they never where. Is there worse...ofcourse...examples being Bobby Lashley (the highest profile that came to mind). I think tho, for me personally, I noticed an improvement in his mic skills whne working his programme with MVP. He seemed more confident in delivery and it came across in his tone and speed of voice. Also there was a post earlier that mentioned how Matts black mark was his personal problem with Lita which he brought to work with him. I would personally like to say as both a Hardy fan and wrestling fan. His fued with Edge was fantastic. Mainly because it told a story and you could see how personal it was. The cage match between them was incredible. I think this too should be a gold star infact against Matt Hardys name for professionalism. How many of you's can say you's would have went out there with the guy who you seen as a friend, stole your girlfriend, betrayed your trust and still make sure he was safe in matches? That would take a true test of character and only a really mature, grown-up could have done such things. Also on another note, Ive only started reading but Matt Hardys blogs on MySpace...Im led to believe its the second most read blog on the entire of MySpace...they are a great read. Very well written and some really good points, put over well.

:flair:

Finally onto Jeff Hardy. For me, one of the few reason for turning into Raw in late 2007/early 2008. Spot monkey?...ofcourse...does millions of fans love him for it?...ofcourse...Did he make the company millions by doing it?....ofcourse...

Away from Jeff Hardy personally for a moment and on to business...and I state the word business. He's a performer who does a great job. He isn't the greatest mat worker, hell he isn't the greatest ariel worker either but what he does. His style, his gimmick....it draws. The dollars(I live in Scotland and over here mega amount of pounds) are going in the cash registers for his merchandise. I was lucky enough to meet Jeff Hardy in October last year and he was a true gentlemen. The guy got off a plane and rushed straight to a signing he wasn't even supposed to do(Cade and Murdoch were scheduled). I admired him for this and the P.R. lady was rushing everyone, no time for this or that. Jeff just said, these people have lined up for hours. Autographs, photographs...I don't care how long it takes....(He was in the main event that night anyways so he obviously knew he didnt have to rush:blush:) From a business point of view, he done the right thing. He doesn't want to dissapoint his fans and fans of the WWE in general.

Personally, I guess you could say by taking drugs he was letting down the fans but then again who are we to second guess why he done it? We don't even know what drugs it was. I personally have never taken a drug or a cigarette but I know plenty of people who take drugs. I think every one is immediately associating drugs as being steroids subconsciecly but lets face it. Jeff Hardy...steriods...hes stick insect :lmao: Not saying I condone it but say for example it was a line of cocaine...does that merit all the hate he is getting? Im guessing half the people who can afford it have. Just this man, I think sometimes we forget he is a human being, just lifes hard and by this Im not just saying travelling on the road...just life in general is hard. He got suspended and accepted it. For me thats punishment enough. He will get depushed which is fair and he misses his Wrestlemania pay out. I hope he comes back refreshed and ready to go again. On the note of a house...not having insurance...its a personal decision you live and die by but doesnt make you irresponsible. How many people buy something, get offered extended warranty and turn it down? Yeh thats right about 90%. The fact what kind of house/vehicle/trailer he lives in. Live were your happy thats what I say!

To finish up...I hope Matt returns soon and continues his fued with MVP. I hope Jeff comes back and him and Chris Jericho have a good program. And finally if your down with that....Ive got just 2 words for ya...

:suckit:

slimymeteor
03-26-2008, 03:45 AM
Great post, wwe_scotland. In reference to Jeff Hardy's most recent drug use, yeah we don't know for sure what drug it was, but I'm pretty certain it was painkillers. Leading up to the suspension, Jeff had given several interviews discussing minor injuries all over his body from wrestling and motocross. And when you are living a life in complete pain as many wrestlers do, the temptation can sometimes get the best of people. So while nothing is confirmed I would say it was most likely painkillers.

wwe_scotland
03-26-2008, 09:47 PM
slimymeteor, thats really appreciated :D Thanks. I agree with you. More than likely painkillers he never had a prescription for but Im not going to slam the guy for it. He goes out 300 days a year, entertaining us. Argument against, so does the rest of the superstars...but then again how many ladder matches do those guys compete in and well missing a Swantom will sure hurt more than missing an FU thats for sure. His length of matches and quickness of matches are arguebly higher than most other superstars too. Like I said, I don't want to make excuses but then again do we really take all factors into consideration?

ilovewrestling47
03-28-2008, 08:20 PM
I think this just applies to Jeff except for one instance for Matt where the storyline with Edge and Lita was brought in. After that Matt has been much more mature and puts on better quality matches. Jeff is the one that needs to grow up. He needs to get his life in order. He takes drugs once and he's gone. He comes back and during a HUGE push were he was getting the biggest pops in WWE he takes drugs again and ruins it. I don't think he will ever get a big push again after his actions. I guess when everybody was cheering for Jeff they should of cheered for the guy who could wrestle,was not a spot monkey,and wasn't an addict.

wwe_scotland
03-29-2008, 07:16 AM
I have read however, aparently what came out from his meeting with Vince McMahon was, he never took the "substance" during his push. It was October time or something and that was the test results getting back from the independant testers.

hardyz1612
03-30-2008, 08:11 PM
Jeff lives in a trailer because he said in their book, "Exist 2 Inspire", that he doesnt need a big house to make him happy. Jeff is just a different kind of guy. He is smart with his money. In a shoot interview on youtube he explains that he doesn't have to work another day in his life and that he is set financially for the rest of his life. He also sells paintings and things.

TheRealLionheart089
04-07-2008, 03:50 PM
You cant really get mad at Jeff for owning a trailer. Living in a trailer is actually pretty smart if youre only home 2 days a week. I dont think he's the 'smartest guy on the planet,' but he was probably saving his money so when he retires/gets injured/gets fired, he'll have something to live off of for awhile.

I mean guys like Lex Luger and Dynamite Kid bought big ass mansions when they were real popular like 10, 15 years ago, and do you REALLY think they are still living like that?

Hell no.


Yeah, Jeff Hardy made a lot of mistakes...well, what the hell -this guy's a fuck up.
But he's not THAT BAD in the ring, or for the WWE. If he was, he wouldnt have gotten the massive reactions he was getting.

Mister J
04-07-2008, 08:00 PM
Hardy Boyz deserve everything they get in WWE. WWE might as well suspend 99% of the roster if the issue is drug use. I really hate how WWE fired Matt for no reason a few years ago. He has always been a good company guy and very reliable. I've never heard one bad thing about him. WWE needs to get their finger out of their asses and push the Hardys now. Period.