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Mighty NorCal
03-08-2008, 12:05 PM
I know there have been simular threads, to the concept, but I want this one to go much better. I want people to critique each others ideas, and to offer their own. Im going to come back and post in here a new "overall" post every few days, with the best ideas fro EVERYONE, so we can see how good we can make this as a Group.
Basically, the premise is this...Vince Mcmahon has just died, and through whatever miracle, you are now in complete control of the WWE. What do you do with it, how do you make it better???
In these posts, I want everything. What you would do overall, how the matches should be booked, the PPV schedule, how the titles would work, what pushes you would give and to whom. Basically everything that everyone bitches about on here, tell me then, how you would change it.
As for mine....
The Rosters
First, I will end the brand split. Everyone, on every show. Now thats not to necessarily mean that people will get buried, becuase EVERY one, wont be on EVERY show. It will almost be like a brand split without being defined it would just free up the roster depth a little more, and give every night more of a big night feel.
The Brands (shows)
Firstly, ECW is over. The show being named that just alienates a lot of fans, and does nothing but Disgrace a once proud name. I will still have a show based primarily on wrestling, and young up and comers, but it will be a two hour program on saturday afternoons. The show will primarily be filmed in smaller arenas, in the florida area, so as being easier to bring up FCW guys for either an introduction to TV, or just bring them up for a squash. This show will be about the lower, younger, or up and coming guys, and may have just one ME level or upper mid card guy on top of the card. This show would be very reminiscent of WCW saturday night, and would emphasize cruisers, and mid card to upper mid card guys. SD!, will be moved to thursday, as to avoid any of my shows being back to back, to avoid fans being burnt out during the week. Both RAW and SD! would have a balance of entertainment/promo/wrestling, instead of one show emphasizing one or the other as it is right now.
Titles
One main WWE title. We put the ECW title on someone High profile, if not just for a week, and then at the next PPV, there is a triple threat unifacation match. Create the "world wrestling entertainment heavyweight championship". And use elements from all three belts. It would look prestigous, and classic, and be large. MY heavyweight champ would LOOK like a heavyweight champ. Now if I had to do it all the sudden, as in my mcmahon dies scenario, id do it at the next PPV. If the WWE was going to realistically do it, This would obviously just be built towards until WM.
Both the US AND IC title would get to stay. Why you ask?? Becuase every successfull promotion has always had TWO mid card titles, although it s generally a TV title. I think the US and IC both have too much history behind them to just abolish one, and like I said, I think having two mid card titles isnt a bad thing. I mean fuck its not like we have three Heavyweight championships right now. Two mid card titles, being the IC amd US, certainley couldnt hurt. Give the equal booking, and I belive this wouldnt be hard to do, as with the brand split u have an abundance of guys who will be vying for either title.
And obviously, unify the tag belts. I think between all the shows at the moment you could have a fairly decent tag division. Split? obviously not, as we can all see. But all together could certainley be passable.
The womens title can stay, as there is a market of f ans who really do enjoy quality womens wrestling. Hell, I enjoy quality womens wrestling. But thats just it. In my WWE, the vast majority of the divas are going to be just that, divas. On screen personalities, interveiw girls for different shows, used in promos, and as valets. The only currrents that get to stay, are Mickie James, Victoria, Beth Pheonix, and Melina. The rest will fill the roles stated above. Im sure Echelon will inform me of who else I should bring in, to flesh out the rest of my WRESTLERS in my female WRESTLING divison.
The cruiserweight title would be brought back, loud and proud. I would heavily recruit Mexico, and Japan for my Cruisers, and the division at first anyway, would be carried by Jamie Noble.
PPV
One per month, 30$, always AT LEAST three hours. As follows...
January-Royal Rumble
Same format as now. Have the WWE title match as undercard, and perpetuate some feuds. Probably a tag title match, as no one is going to belive that a memeber of the tag champs is gonna win the rumble, so why waste them? Also a womens title match, falling under the same reasoning. Winner gets a shot at WM.
Febuary-No Way Out
I like having the EC at this event, if not just for the name of the PPV. It could be ysed in anumber of ways, wether it be to get anothe rguy into the MW main event, or to solidify the champ with a title defense here, as to make him look stronger for the WM build. You could also go in the way of shocker upset to give you a new champ going into the last 5 weeks before WM.
March-WrestleMainia
The biggest, longest, craziest event of the year. Titles change hands, feuds are ended, torches are passed. WIll always be in a huge arena, generally football stadiums, wether they be outdoor, or indoor.
April-BackLash
Basically, revenge from WM, feuds from WM are either wrapped up, or continued, or new ones are began.
May- One Night Stand
Postively ends feuds from WM, and probably any new ones from Backlash, as this will be an all gimmick match PPV.
June- King Of The Ring
One night, eight man tournament, the winner recieving a title shot at SummerSlam. The PPV primarily focuses on the tourney, with most likely a tag title, a WWE heavyweight title match being the only non tournament matchs. The first round will be regular matches. The semi Finals will be in a "spin the wheel make the deal" format, were a wheel will be spun to elect a random gimmick for the match, including triple threat, were a suprise "random" entrant from the back gets lucky, and gets into the tournament. This tournament is "King of the RING" should it should be able to encompass any and all matches that are held in the ring. The finals will be another regular wrestling match.
July- Great American Bash
Build toward Summerslam, work some feuds that are started out of the KOR
August-SummerSlam-the WM of Summer, pretty much built the way it is now
September-Unforgiven
The "backlash" to Summerslams "Wrestlemania". continue fueds, and start off the fall right.
October- Halloween Havoc
Held near halloween, with the elaborate sets that used to be used by WCW. Generally will incorporate some type of macbre match, wether it be casket, last man standing, HIAC, Buried alive. SOmething big, and "scary".
November-Survivor Series
All about the elimination tag matches, besides one WWE title match. the remaining survivors from each team will be put into a battle royal later in the night, to win a survivor series ring (yes like battlebowl. may evenn call it that)
December-Cyber Sunday/Armageddon
The concept of Cyber Sunday remains, IE the fans pick the opponets/gimmicks they would like to see, in an onus to them for the last PPV of the year. I dont particularly enjoy the tagline of "cyber sunday" and I think "Armageddon" would applicable, given the crazy random, and eventually very brutal, enviornment of this PPV.
Either GAB, or SummerSlam, WOULD BE held outdoors, probably in a football/soccer stadium. This would more likely be GAB, as to enhance the American feeling, atmosphereic feel. SummerSlam would be able to sell itself as the WM of the summer, so GAB would be sold on romanticism. PPVs would be very unpredictable, and would take on a feeling of anything CAN happen. Title changes will regularly go down on PPVs. Halloween Havoc will occur close to halloween, Survivor series close to Thanksgiving. Armageddon would be the weekend before christmas, and the wrestlers would be the week of, and 2 days after christmas off.
My matches
Would generally have clean finishes. Heels would be booker to look strong and threatening, not weak. Triple Threat would be one fall to a finish, anything else, IE fatal four way, five man, or 6 pack, would be elimination.
Tha pretty much covers how my WWE would run. Everyone come forth with your ideas, make suggestions and critiques on mine, and each others. You dont like something about WWE? fix it. Thanks everyone for your support on this one, in advance, as I know itll be a time consuming post. I want to come back every few posts, and make a new, overall one, taking the best ideas from everyone, and seeing what we can collectively come up with as a group.
Slyfox696
03-08-2008, 12:41 PM
I'll critique yours, so you can improve. From that you should be able to get an idea of a basic premise of mine.
As for mine....
The Rosters
First, I will end the brand split. Everyone, on every show. Now thats not to necessarily mean that people will get buried, becuase EVERY one, wont be on EVERY show. It will almost be like a brand split without being defined it would just free up the roster depth a little more, and give every night more of a big night feel.This will still require your to shorten the overall rosters, meaning you have guys being paid without working, or bringing any money in. Not really a good way to present company growth to stockholders.
The Brands (shows)
Firstly, ECW is over. The show being named that just alienates a lot of fans, and does nothing but Disgrace a once proud name. I will still have a show based primarily on wrestling, and young up and comers, but it will be a two hour program on saturday afternoons. The show will primarily be filmed in smaller arenas, in the florida area, so as being easier to bring up FCW guys for either an introduction to TV, or just bring them up for a squash. This show will be about the lower, younger, or up and coming guys, and may have just one ME level or upper mid card guy on top of the card.This show would be very reminiscent of WCW saturday night, and would emphasize cruisers, and mid card to upper mid card guys.No offense, but this idea is terrible. Sound good for wrestling concept, but terrible for every realistic reason.
1) Filming separately means you have to hold a separate show, which means paying for another venue, a venue that will not bring in NEAR enough money to support the filming of a show with WWE production values.
2) Jobber shows are never watched, so you run a high risk of losing your TV deal, costing yourself a lot of money in TV revenue. Finally, you're going to be losing a lot of money on a show that does very little for your bottom line.
3) They already had a show like that. It was Ohio Valley Wrestling. You might not have heard of it because nobody cared about it. Your idea is basically OVW part 2. And, when you are thrown off the network because of poor ratings, you WILL be OVW part 2.
The difference between this and WCW is that Turner owned both WCW and TBS, meaning that the show always had a national broadcast station. The WWE doesn't have that. Plus, when WCW Saturday Night was on, the company was bleeding money.
SD!, will be moved to thursday, as to avoid any of my shows being back to back, to avoid fans being burnt out during the week. Both RAW and SD! would have a balance of entertainment/promo/wrestling, instead of one show emphasizing one or the other as it is right now.Good idea, except TNA Impact is on Thursday. So, you will be putting your only other TV show, the "B" show of the WWE, on a poor network station, against TNA's prime show. And, while TNA is not a threat now, they're just one good storyline away from competing with your second show.
Titles
One main WWE title. We put the ECW title on someone High profile, if not just for a week, and then at the next PPV, there is a triple threat unifacation match. Create the "world wrestling entertainment heavyweight championship". And use elements from all three belts. It would look prestigous, and classic, and be large. MY heavyweight champ would LOOK like a heavyweight champ. Now if I had to do it all the sudden, as in my mcmahon dies scenario, id do it at the next PPV. If the WWE was going to realistically do it, This would obviously just be built towards until WM.
Both the US AND IC title would get to stay. Why you ask?? Becuase every successfull promotion has always had TWO mid card titles, although it s generally a TV title. I think the US and IC both have too much history behind them to just abolish one, and like I said, I think having two mid card titles isnt a bad thing. I mean fuck its not like we have three Heavyweight championships right now. Two mid card titles, being the IC amd US, certainley couldnt hurt. Give the equal booking, and I belive this wouldnt be hard to do, as with the brand split u have an abundance of guys who will be vying for either title.
And obviously, unify the tag belts. I think between all the shows at the moment you could have a fairly decent tag division. Split? obviously not, as we can all see. But all together could certainley be passable.
The womens title can stay, as there is a market of f ans who really do enjoy quality womens wrestling. Hell, I enjoy quality womens wrestling. But thats just it. In my WWE, the vast majority of the divas are going to be just that, divas. On screen personalities, interveiw girls for different shows, used in promos, and as valets. The only currrents that get to stay, are Mickie James, Victoria, Beth Pheonix, and Melina. The rest will fill the roles stated above. Im sure Echelon will inform me of who else I should bring in, to flesh out the rest of my WRESTLERS in my female WRESTLING divison.
The cruiserweight title would be brought back, loud and proud. I would heavily recruit Mexico, and Japan for my Cruisers, and the division at first anyway, would be carried by Jamie Noble.For the most part, this I like, except the cruiserweight title is not necessary and is a waste of time and money.
PPV
One per month, 30$, always AT LEAST three hours.Silly. You're losing a lot of potential revenue here.
As follows...
January-Royal Rumble
Same format as now. Have the WWE title match as undercard, and perpetuate some feuds. Probably a tag title match, as no one is going to belive that a memeber of the tag champs is gonna win the rumble, so why waste them? Also a womens title match, falling under the same reasoning. Winner gets a shot at WM.
Febuary-No Way Out
I like having the EC at this event, if not just for the name of the PPV. It could be ysed in anumber of ways, wether it be to get anothe rguy into the MW main event, or to solidify the champ with a title defense here, as to make him look stronger for the WM build. You could also go in the way of shocker upset to give you a new champ going into the last 5 weeks before WM.
March-WrestleMainia
The biggest, longest, craziest event of the year. Titles change hands, feuds are ended, torches are passed. WIll always be in a huge arena, generally football stadiums, wether they be outdoor, or indoor.
April-BackLash
Basically, revenge from WM, feuds from WM are either wrapped up, or continued, or new ones are began.
May- One Night Stand
Postively ends feuds from WM, and probably any new ones from Backlash, as this will be an all gimmick match PPV.
June- King Of The Ring
One night, eight man tournament, the winner recieving a title shot at SummerSlam. The PPV primarily focuses on the tourney, with most likely a tag title, a WWE heavyweight title match being the only non tournament matchs. The first round will be regular matches. The semi Finals will be in a "spin the wheel make the deal" format, were a wheel will be spun to elect a random gimmick for the match, including triple threat, were a suprise "random" entrant from the back gets lucky, and gets into the tournament. This tournament is "King of the RING" should it should be able to encompass any and all matches that are held in the ring. The finals will be another regular wrestling match.
July- Great American Bash
Build toward Summerslam, work some feuds that are started out of the KOR
August-SummerSlam-the WM of Summer, pretty much built the way it is now
September-Unforgiven
The "backlash" to Summerslams "Wrestlemania". continue fueds, and start off the fall right.
October- Halloween Havoc
Held near halloween, with the elaborate sets that used to be used by WCW. Generally will incorporate some type of macbre match, wether it be casket, last man standing, HIAC, Buried alive. SOmething big, and "scary".
November-Survivor Series
All about the elimination tag matches, besides one WWE title match. the remaining survivors from each team will be put into a battle royal later in the night, to win a survivor series ring (yes like battlebowl. may evenn call it that)
December-Cyber Sunday/Armageddon
The concept of Cyber Sunday remains, IE the fans pick the opponets/gimmicks they would like to see, in an onus to them for the last PPV of the year. I dont particularly enjoy the tagline of "cyber sunday" and I think "Armageddon" would applicable, given the crazy random, and eventually very brutal, enviornment of this PPV.
Either GAB, or SummerSlam, WOULD BE held outdoors, probably in a football/soccer stadium. This would more likely be GAB, as to enhance the American feeling, atmosphereic feel. SummerSlam would be able to sell itself as the WM of the summer, so GAB would be sold on romanticism. PPVs would be very unpredictable, and would take on a feeling of anything CAN happen. Title changes will regularly go down on PPVs. Halloween Havoc will occur close to halloween, Survivor series close to Thanksgiving. Armageddon would be the weekend before christmas, and the wrestlers would be the week of, and 2 days after christmas off.Meh, all of this isn't bad or good, just kind of standard. The only thing you should change would be June's King of the Ring. King of the Ring tournaments are always boring.
My matches
Would generally have clean finishes.Even on TV? If you have clean finishes on TV, why would anyone want to buy the PPV?
Heels would be booker to look strong and threatening, not weak. Then heels become cheered, and then become faces. And, if everyone is face, then there's a serious lack of caring by wrestling fans. Heels HAVE to look like they just barely hang on. Heels rarely can look dominant and stay heel.
Tha pretty much covers how my WWE would run. Everyone come forth with your ideas, make suggestions and critiques on mine, and each others. You dont like something about WWE? fix it. Thanks everyone for your support on this one, in advance, as I know itll be a time consuming post. I want to come back every few posts, and make a new, overall one, taking the best ideas from everyone, and seeing what we can collectively come up with as a group.If I have time later, I'll add more of my own.
Mighty NorCal
03-08-2008, 01:18 PM
This will still require your to shorten the overall rosters, meaning you have guys being paid without working, or bringing any money in. Not really a good way to present company growth to stockholders.
Never said it wouldnt reqiure me to shorten the rosters a little. and people wont be getting paid to not work. Thats why I allowed myself SIX HOURS of programming weekly, and one specifically desighned to get the younger guys over.
No offense, but this idea is terrible. Sound good for wrestling concept, but terrible for every realistic reason.
1) Filming separately means you have to hold a separate show, which means paying for another venue, a venue that will not bring in NEAR enough money to support the filming of a show with WWE production values.
2) Jobber shows are never watched, so you run a high risk of losing your TV deal, costing yourself a lot of money in TV revenue. Finally, you're going to be losing a lot of money on a show that does very little for your bottom line.
3) They already had a show like that. It was Ohio Valley Wrestling. You might not have heard of it because nobody cared about it. Your idea is basically OVW part 2. And, when you are thrown off the network because of poor ratings, you WILL be OVW part 2.
The difference between this and WCW is that Turner owned both WCW and TBS, meaning that the show always had a national broadcast station. The WWE doesn't have that. Plus, when WCW Saturday Night was on, the company was bleeding money.
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Which is why I would stay to smaller venues, as they wouldnt cost as much to rent out. and I would stay in the same area, maybe work out small lease agreements with areas. It wouldnt be a "jobber program" it would be reminiscent to the current ECW program, just on steroids. The ME level guys will probably dominate both weekday shows, so there will be plenty of room for second teir guys to get action, on here. I mean guys like Kennedy, Hardy, Benjamin, CM Punk would be the main guys here, and I think they could sell out 5,000 seat arenas just fine, personally.
Good idea, except TNA Impact is on Thursday. So, you will be putting your only other TV show, the "B" show of the WWE, on a poor network station, against TNA's prime show. And, while TNA is not a threat now, they're just one good storyline away from competing with your second show.
at what point did I ever imply SD! would be a "B" show?? It wouldnt, it would be balanced with RAW, wich is another reason I would end the Brand split. both shows would be every bit as big as each other every week. If anything, it would further crush TNA impact.
For the most part, this I like, except the cruiserweight title is not necessary and is a waste of time and money
I think you will be met with a lot of opposition on this thread. Ill leave it up to others to battle you on that quote lol
Silly. You're losing a lot of potential revenue here.
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personally, I dont think so. A lower price makes it more accessable to a larger group of people, therin making higher buy rates, and more revenue. Wrstling is marketed towards children frist and foremost. Children who will be trying to convince thier parents to purchase PPVs for them. It will beeasier to convince a parent to purchase something for 29.95$ as opposed to 40$ or 50$. And at the risk of sounding ignorant, I would imagine that large portion of wrestling fans arent the most extremely affluent. I think make the price lower makes the shows more accesable to purchase to a larger amount of people.
If I have time later, I'll add more of my own.
I highly anticpate that. Im sure itll have some great stuff that no one else thought of. thanks for contributing Sly.
Slyfox696
03-08-2008, 01:39 PM
Never said it wouldnt reqiure me to shorten the rosters a little. and people wont be getting paid to not work. Thats why I allowed myself SIX HOURS of programming weekly, and one specifically desighned to get the younger guys over.You can only have so many wrestlers on at a certain time. With the same guys working Raw and Smackdown, that leaves only one program for guys who will not be working PPV. Which means, you'll have to shorten your roster.
Which is why I would stay to smaller venues, as they wouldnt cost as much to rent out. and I would stay in the same area, maybe work out small lease agreements with areas. It wouldnt be a "jobber program" it would be reminiscent to the current ECW program, just on steroids. The ME level guys will probably dominate both weekday shows, so there will be plenty of room for second teir guys to get action, on here. I mean guys like Kennedy, Hardy, Benjamin, CM Punk would be the main guys here, and I think they could sell out 5,000 seat arenas just fine, personally.ECW can't sell out 5000 seat arenas by themselves now, how do you think they're going to do that when put as the jobber program?
When you factor in the poor ratings, the lack of attendance and high production values, this show would be losing you money.
at what point did I ever imply SD! would be a "B" show?? It wouldnt, it would be balanced with RAW, wich is another reason I would end the Brand split. both shows would be every bit as big as each other every week. If anything, it would further crush TNA impact.Smackdown is inevitably the "B" show. Using the same talent, the new show will play second fiddle to the flagship show. It always has, and always will. It's inevitable.
I think you will be met with a lot of opposition on this thread. Ill leave it up to others to battle you on that quote lolCruiserweight divisions have never drawn in America, and adding another title only decreases the overall value and prestige to the other titles.
personally, I dont think so. A lower price makes it more accessable to a larger group of people, therin making higher buy rates, and more revenue. Wrstling is marketed towards children frist and foremost. Children who will be trying to convince thier parents to purchase PPVs for them. It will beeasier to convince a parent to purchase something for 29.95$ as opposed to 40$ or 50$. And at the risk of sounding ignorant, I would imagine that large portion of wrestling fans arent the most extremely affluent. I think make the price lower makes the shows more accesable to purchase to a larger amount of people.You may not personally think so, but just look at the last few years. The WWE has raised PPV prices, which lowered PPV buys, BUT have increased revenue. Go and look in the General Wrestling forum where I posted the financial information, and see how their revenue has increased.
RAWneedsMYSTERIO
03-08-2008, 02:24 PM
Alright,
I Like The PPVs expecially Halloween Havoc and Jamie Noble as champ.
Instead of a brand split though, Just Have A Draft Every Year That Could Give New Matches For PPVs and Weekly Shows. Instead Of Batista vs...... every PPV.
Post Back I Want People To Tell Me What They Thinks Wrong With That
P.S And By The Way, Great Thread Idea
Luther_Hull FTW
03-08-2008, 03:58 PM
I wouldn't change a lot to be honest, the WWE are by far the best wrestling promotion out there, they must be doing something right.
I'd keep the celebrity involvement, I like it, and it gets WWE a shitload more publicity. Hell, the number of people I've heard arounf my college talking about Mayweather is unreal. It's not exactly taking away from you traditionalists either is it? You're still getting like six matches containing strictly wrestlers and only one with a celeb, yet that one match is what will make the WWE money, so no complaints from there.
I'd also keep the brand extension the way it is. I like the fact that ECW is a sort of developmental territory, it doesn't exactly bother me that there's no extreme rules, although I'd probably try and include one match like that in each weeks program. I'd also give the ECW title to someone like Kane to give it a bit of credibility, it hasn't had that since the Big Show's reign.
As far as the PPVs go, I'd do this.
January: Obviously, I'd have the Royal Rumble here, held in a prestigious venue like MSG, I'd keep the format basically the same, with the Royal Rumble match being at the end of the show. I'd also have some sort of cruiserweight open here.
February: No Way Out, the usual stuff, the Rumble winner puts their shot on the line here, like what usually happens. I'd have some type of cage match here as well, probably the elimination chamber for the brand that didn't win the Royal Rumble, either that or a tournament climaxing in a steel cage.
March: WrestleMania, the grandaddy of them all. You know the drill, held in the biggest stadiums in America, full of OTT pyro, lasers, stages, the lot. A real spectacle, rock bands performing as the big stars enter. I'd also have at least one match involving a celebrity, this is to bring in the masses, the general public who are meh on wrestling.
April: Backlash, this would be gimmick rematches of WM, a smaller scale do, but an important stage on developing feuds.
May: Judgment Day, I'd have a Hell in a Cell in here to end one of the Main Event feuds, this would be ending most of the feuds that came through Mania.
June: Night of Champions, I'd ditch the Vengeance name due to the Benoit thing. This idea has potential if the feuds are built up properley, not just made last minute.
July: Fully Loaded, the GAB alienates the international market. I'd rather bring back Fully Loaded and have it done in a Raw Roulette style. Broadcast from somewhere like Vegas or Atlantic City.
August: SummerSlam, except it would be an international PPV. Like WrestleMania but held somewhere like Wembley, the Tokyo Dome, Stadio Azteca or somewhere like that. It would just help the WWE spread the name around.
September: Unforgiven, essentially Backlash again, rematches of SummerSlam ut with slight differences.
October: Halloween Havoc, the Judgment Day so to speak, this will end feuds that have come from SummerSlam. It'll also include a ridiculous gimmick match, like that one with the electric chair.
November: Survivor Series, held in somewhere like an indoor ballpark, bigger than the conventional arena, smaller than the stadiums of WM and SSlam. A few 5 on 5s, but also the finals of a tournament to find the new number one contender, who get's their shot that night.
December: Armageddon, including the Undertaker and his gimmick matches.
I'd also have other events such as SNME but exclusive to certain countries, such as a UK only event called "Live in London" or something cheesy like that, to be shown live. Like the exclusive PPVs, but free, in countries such as the UK, Australia and Japan.
Capt. Charisma
03-09-2008, 12:07 AM
Heres a random idea I just had- On Smackdown create like a league ranking system for the title, in order to be eligible for the league you must have held a previous title in the WWE. This ensures contenders are legit and beliveable. The Heavyweight title league consists of the top five contenders to the title on Smackdown. Each week there are one or two matches from the league, a win gives a wrestler 4 points, a draw gives them 1 point, and a loss gives them -1 point. Only matches against felow league members count for points, and they must be a 'sactioned league match'. The wrestler with the most points after each PPV wins a match with the champion. Wrestlers can be relegated from the league by having the least number of points after a PPV, or through injury, or through 'bad behaviour'. Everytime there is a new champion the league points reset to zero. This league runs seasonaly for 6 months during either winter or summer, after that Smackdown reverts back to how it operates now. In the event of a tie in the league on points then there is a triple threat match betwen the champion and 2 contenders, if 3 are tied a fatal four way etc. For a better idea I have done an example of what it might be like below-
Champion- Batista
Contenders League
1.Edge 24
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2.The Undertaker 21
3.MVP (Current no.1 contender) 20
4.Rey Mysterio 9
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5.The Great Khali 4
The basic idea of this is to create matches with meaning, both on PPV and on Smackdown. More meaningful matches mean people will want to watch to see what happens, espcially if a wrestler is close to securing a title shot, or been relegated. I just had this thought now randomly so go easy on it lol.
Mighty NorCal
03-09-2008, 12:15 AM
Hm, very interesting, albeit somewhat confusing idea.
Why would you have it only on SD? and how could MVP be the number one contender, and not have the most points? wouldnt that make Edge the number 1 contender? I think this idea would have a pretty huge interesting implications if used with my no more brand split WWE title idea. If it were one HUGE championship league. Not sure how well it would work though,, as I dont know if the vast majority of WWE fans have the mental acumen and patience to kepe up with something like that.
Capt. Charisma
03-09-2008, 12:54 AM
Well I thought that smackdown is probably the best place to try out an idea like this see how the fans react. MVP was the top points scorer at the last ppv but has since fallen behind the others, he wud still get his shot from last month though if ya get me. Otherwise what happens when someone gets overtakenbefore there title shot, if ya get me.
Mighty NorCal
03-09-2008, 12:59 AM
well, then they loose their title shot and no longer are the number one contender I would think, I thought that was the whole point of the contender league no? I thought thats what would make it intriguing, Seeing as how the lead could change numerous times, and number one contenders could be overtaken for their spot. If it doesnt make any difference if u get overtaken for your spot, yet still get your title shot, then whats th emotivation to keep winning?
Shadowmancer
03-09-2008, 06:37 AM
OK here is the start of my ways on improving this product we call the WWE. Starting from something that really bothers me, and following through to the stuff that least bothers me but if changed could be a good thing.
First off the Cruiserweight Division; Bring it Back, the X Division in TNA proves you can make money on the smaller guys. I would make Serious attempts at Hiring the Guys like KENTA, Naomichi Marufugi, Mistico and other Big international names that you can have in a decent Cruiserweight Division. Hell I'd even try and resign Taka Michinoku since he isn't really that old. Base this division around these guys as well as Jamie Noble and Jimmy Yang.
Make the Mid Card something to be proud of and watchable again. The Mid Card Titles are worthless right now, there are strong contenders coming through in the Likes of Paul Burchill and Colt Cabana when he is brought up to the main roster.
Gregory Helms when he gets back push him as a Legitimate contender to the US Championship or the IC Championship. Have him feud with Matt Hardy again, for the title that we know Matt will have when Helms gets back.
Bring up guys like Colt Cabana and TJ Smith to the main Roster every so often, not to get squashed but to familiarise the fans with them to a small extent. They have the talent in FCW so they can get them into a good position in terms of being in front of the Big Time crowds.
Id also set up a type of Talent exchange for the development league with companies in Japan and Mexico. It can be for a couple of Tours, look at Benoit, Jericho and Eddie, as well as a couple of all time greats like Flair and Bret Hart. and the same is true in reverse, Jumbo Tsuruta got experience in the US. A system like this would allow the WWE to gain a measure of Good Will from other places in the world, something which is a valuable commodity in the profit margin. It gives the Wrestlers experience in front of huge crowds as those that are generated in Japan and Mexico where Wrestling is still reported in the Sports pages of a Newspaper as it once was in the US and in other countries. This will translate to big match experience thereby being able to fast track certain talent to the bigger leagues inside the WWE.
Change the Name of ECW. What is Extreme about ECW? nothing really. I get that Extreme is not just the Hardcore stuff but a method of thinking. But When was the last time you saw Hat Guy or Faith No More Guy? Therefore why not change it to reflect the names that RAW and SmackDown! both have. It is a fairly expensive operation from the branding point of view but there is a in house design department as far as I know. A rename would do the brand good as it would get people who claim that they will not watch the WWE version of ECW, despite it being the best programming that the WWE is putting on right now from a show point of view. But a Rename should bring in more people.
Go and scout out talent all over the world, including Australia and New Zealand, there are talented people in this area of the world that could make it. You never know the next Pat O'Connor or Tony Garea may be in New Zealand now. So scouting overseas talent would be a big thing. Also scout the guys called the big things on the Indy scene like Nigel McGuinness, Chris Hero, Claudio Castagnoli, Austin Aries and Jimmy Jacobs. There is a reason these guys get over properly wherever they go, try and use that for a real reason.
Try and sign guys like Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin away from TNA. These guys are the hottest thing in the Tag Team business right now. Alex Shelley has the largest Upside in the world right now. He is the guy that can be the next Shawn Michaels or Chris Jericho without the backstage attitude of HBK whe he was younger or the disappointment factor that the WWE seem to have built into Jericho in some way.
There is more but this is the first lot of improvements I would make to the WWE.
Slyfox696
03-09-2008, 09:39 AM
OK here is the start of my ways on improving this product we call the WWE. Starting from something that really bothers me, and following through to the stuff that least bothers me but if changed could be a good thing.
First off the Cruiserweight Division; Bring it Back, the X Division in TNA proves you can make money on the smaller guys. I would make Serious attempts at Hiring the Guys like KENTA, Naomichi Marufugi, Mistico and other Big international names that you can have in a decent Cruiserweight Division. Hell I'd even try and resign Taka Michinoku since he isn't really that old. Base this division around these guys as well as Jamie Noble and Jimmy Yang.
Make the Mid Card something to be proud of and watchable again. The Mid Card Titles are worthless right now, there are strong contenders coming through in the Likes of Paul Burchill and Colt Cabana when he is brought up to the main roster.
Gregory Helms when he gets back push him as a Legitimate contender to the US Championship or the IC Championship. Have him feud with Matt Hardy again, for the title that we know Matt will have when Helms gets back.
Bring up guys like Colt Cabana and TJ Smith to the main Roster every so often, not to get squashed but to familiarise the fans with them to a small extent. They have the talent in FCW so they can get them into a good position in terms of being in front of the Big Time crowds.
Id also set up a type of Talent exchange for the development league with companies in Japan and Mexico. It can be for a couple of Tours, look at Benoit, Jericho and Eddie, as well as a couple of all time greats like Flair and Bret Hart. and the same is true in reverse, Jumbo Tsuruta got experience in the US. A system like this would allow the WWE to gain a measure of Good Will from other places in the world, something which is a valuable commodity in the profit margin. It gives the Wrestlers experience in front of huge crowds as those that are generated in Japan and Mexico where Wrestling is still reported in the Sports pages of a Newspaper as it once was in the US and in other countries. This will translate to big match experience thereby being able to fast track certain talent to the bigger leagues inside the WWE.
Change the Name of ECW. What is Extreme about ECW? nothing really. I get that Extreme is not just the Hardcore stuff but a method of thinking. But When was the last time you saw Hat Guy or Faith No More Guy? Therefore why not change it to reflect the names that RAW and SmackDown! both have. It is a fairly expensive operation from the branding point of view but there is a in house design department as far as I know. A rename would do the brand good as it would get people who claim that they will not watch the WWE version of ECW, despite it being the best programming that the WWE is putting on right now from a show point of view. But a Rename should bring in more people.
Go and scout out talent all over the world, including Australia and New Zealand, there are talented people in this area of the world that could make it. You never know the next Pat O'Connor or Tony Garea may be in New Zealand now. So scouting overseas talent would be a big thing. Also scout the guys called the big things on the Indy scene like Nigel McGuinness, Chris Hero, Claudio Castagnoli, Austin Aries and Jimmy Jacobs. There is a reason these guys get over properly wherever they go, try and use that for a real reason.
Try and sign guys like Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin away from TNA. These guys are the hottest thing in the Tag Team business right now. Alex Shelley has the largest Upside in the world right now. He is the guy that can be the next Shawn Michaels or Chris Jericho without the backstage attitude of HBK whe he was younger or the disappointment factor that the WWE seem to have built into Jericho in some way.
There is more but this is the first lot of improvements I would make to the WWE.
So, basically you want the WWE to regress to indy style booking? Hire a bunch of foreign talent that has been proven time and again to not draw, hire a bunch of indy talent who are not ready to be put in the spotlight, use a talent exchange which would never benefit the WWE, but could benefit competition, and randomly change the name of a show which will do nothing but lose viewership.
No offense Shadowmancer, but I thought you could do better.
If I was in charge I,d rebuild the cruiser and tag division.Noble,Wang Yang,Helms etc can all put on great shows.The tag divison.......OVW and FCW ahve some great teams and Burke and Benjamin,The new MNM,And Cade and Murdoch can all put on great shows.ECW,I,d get rid off like every one has said above me.
Drafts would become very important if I was in charge.Matches would be held to decide who gets the pick-But instead of a random picking machine the gm picks.Thus we have the crop of each brand now on different brands,Making for a interesting feud.Its pretty simple.
Slyfox696
03-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Considering I've ripped others scenarios to shreds, it's only fair I post mine for others to do it to me.
Booking:
1) Cena wins the title at Wrestlemania in the Triple Threat, and the Undertaker wins the title against Edge. Flair beats HBK.
2) Backlash - Main-event features two guest referee matches. Cena vs. Orton with HHH as guest referee and Taker vs. Edge with Batista guest referee
3) Judgment Day - Features HHH and Cena vs. Undertaker and Batista
4) Vengeance - Features Fatal Four-Way, HHH vs. Orton vs. Edge vs. Batista. Winner gets to challenge for title of his brand. HHH and Batista are last two standing. Finish sees referee knocked out, new referee to ring, belly to back suplex by HHH, both men with shoulders down for 2 count, both referees counting both men have shoulders up by three, but each referee counts a different wrestler for a three count. Mass confusion and chaos. No one knows who the #1 contender is. Cena faces Kennedy, and Taker faces MVP.
5) Great American Bash - Cena and Taker vs. Edge and Orton. Main Event: #1 Contenders match, HHH vs. Batista. Cena and Taker at ringside on different side of commenting tables, firing shots at each other. Finish sees both men knocked out after a grueling match and the referee administering the 10 count. Match ends in draw.
Next night on Raw, McMahon declares since they've had two matches with no clear winner between HHH and Batista, BOTH men get title shots.
6) Summerslam - Hulk Hogan retires Ric Flair. The culmination of Batista vs. Taker and Cena vs. HHH feuds. Batista vs. Taker in the Cell, Cena vs. HHH in a last man standing. Undertaker defeats Batista, and Cena defeats HHH.
Fast forward to the Royal Rumble, with occasional intermingling of Cena vs. Undertaker. Neither man loses belt since Wrestlemania 24.
7) Royal Rumble - Cena vs. Kennedy, Taker vs. MVP. Cena and Taker win. Royal Rumble match winner gets title shot. Entrants 1-28 enter. #29 entrant is John Cena. #30 entrant is the Undertaker. Cena and Taker are last two men in Rumble. Taker eliminates Cena after Kennedy distraction.
Next night on Raw, Taker claims his title shot at Wrestlemania...in a match against Cena. Of course, Taker already has the World Heavyweight Title, so this will be a title unification match! McMahon's music hits, he says that both men must earn their spot at Wrestlemania. It's Kennedy vs. Cena, and Edge vs. Undertaker.
8) No Way Out - Cena and Taker both retain.
9) Wrestlemania 25- Main Event: Cena vs. Undertaker. Wrestlemania undefeated streak vs. Wrestlemania undefeated streak. WWE Title vs. World Heavyweight Title. The Phenom vs. Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. The Undertaker vs. Cena. Both men won their titles at Wrestlemania from the year before, so BOTH men are year long champions. BOTH men are the undisputed BEST of their brand. This is the best of Smackdown vs. the best of Raw. This is the very best of the WWE.
Cena kicks out of the Chokeslam. Undertaker kicks out of the FU. Cena kicks out of the Tombstone. Undertaker TAPS OUT to the STFU. Cena is your NEW Undisputed WWE champion, giving Undertaker his first Wrestlemania loss ever.
Next night out, Cena comes out to a rousing chorus of boos. Fans hate his guts because he just became the first man to defeat Undertaker at Wrestlemania, and the Undertaker even had to tap out. Fans are furious. Cena steps in the ring, looks around, and delivers a short promo.
"I can hear you. I can hear how you boo me. I hear how you disrespect me, how you refuse to acknowledge my greatness. But, I beat the Undertaker. I made the Undertaker tap out. You may not like me, but I don't give a damn anymore. Because I'm the champ, and THE CHAMP IS STILL HERE!".
Cena just made one of the biggest heel turns in history.
So, some things to take away from this booking. One, the WWE has ONE Undisputed champion now, who will defend his title on both brands. Two, guys like Kennedy and MVP have been elevated to the main-event. Three, we got to see the HHH vs. Cena rematch. Four, Cena made a huge heel turn. Five, both men were given year long runs so as to further prestige of titles.
Now, booking isn't just what this is about. So, here are other things I would do.
1) Let my ECW contract run out, and do away with the brand. Yes, I know I would lose TV revenue by doing this, but I think it would boost interest in the other shows for two reasons. 1) Would lessen the obvious oversaturation of the current wrestling product and 2) would bolster the rosters of both Raw and Smackdown. At this point, it doesn't appear like there will be a mass exodus of wrestlers like what happened from 2002-2005, so fans are now used to guys that will be around a while.
2) Fire worthless talent, trimming rosters. Maybe send them back to development, but there is no need to see worthless guys like Kevin Thorne or Carlito on TV.
3) Open an expansion promotion in Japan. This can be used as another development promotion, both for US wrestlers, AND for Japanese wrestlers. However, unlike Shadowmancer, the wrestlers in Japan are not being groomed for US TV. Instead, they are being groomed for Japanese fans. Thus will begin my expansion into world wrestling domination. Next, I will move into Mexico, then Europe, and then anywhere wrestling is watched.
Obviously, this will take a lot of capital and time, but it can be done, and the end reward will be the biggest wrestling empire ever, where WWE and wrestling will be synonymous with each other just like facial wipes and Kleenex.
4) I like the idea of an overseas PPV, so one PPV a year will be overseas. Generally it will be a lesser PPV, like a No Mercy, so as to garner additional interest. I would change the Great American Bash PPV name, not because I don't like it, but because, as has been mentioned, it turns off international markets, and with global expansion plans, I do not want to do that.
5) I will hold a show every once in a while at the Hammerstein. While I realize booking changes completely for a show like this, I think the idiocy of those fans won't completely overrun the value of a rabid crowd, and will begin to foster that type of attitude for other crowds.
6) Hire back Vince Russo, Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman. Heyman and Bischoff work creative for Smackdown, and Russo works creative for Raw. Obviously, they are not only creative, but will have good input.
7) Try hard to hire guys like Bret Hart as a road agent, to help wrestlers lay out matches. I realize the difficulty with HBK, but Hart can work with Smackdown group.
8) Hire a group of people to oversee scripts and shows. These people will not have any idea of future creative plans or booking, but are there solely to gauge the logic of a show. Does it make sense for Wrestler A to do this? Why put on a match for free that you're advertising for a PPV, etc. They send their script revisions, and their show reviews in the form of writing, so as to never be privy to future storyline plans. The writers then take these critiques and adjust shows as necessary, depending on future storylines.
9) Minimize gimmick matches. Gimmick matches are overrused which negates their effectiveness.
10) Continue to follow the laws of supply and demand regarding prices of shows, merch, and PPV. PPV revenue has continued to increase over the last couple of years, so I would continue to charge as much as I could. However, not every show costs the same. Wrestlemania is the highest tier price. Royal Rumble, Vengeance, Summerslam, and Survivor Series are at tier two prices, as these are generally the most bought PPVs after WM. Finally, every other show goes to third tier pricing. What these prices will be, I cannot say. It will depend upon the law of supply and demand. As for the number of PPVs, there will be one PPV a month, like most people have said.
That's all I'm writing for now. If I feel like writing more later, I will. Feel free to critique and rip to shreds what I just wrote. Or, if you feel generous, compliment me.
I like all your ideas apart from hiring Russo and Hart.Russo is a god-awful booker with terrible input.Hart is old school.He dosn,t undertand the new way matches are done.The future is flying high and not submission after submission.
I do like the world expansion and hiring people to over see scripts.Its very smart and makes sure crap dosn,t go on TV.The World Expansion would be great,hell,Mega-star foreign talent could have dream matches With WWE Mega stars.And it would live up to World Wrestling entertainment
Hillman
03-09-2008, 12:03 PM
My WWE would be about the same as it is now, except for a few things.
1) ECW - the current ECW really bugs me. When the new ECW came out, I was really excited. I really thought that it was going to be different than RAW or Smackdown. To me, RAW and Smackdown can do all the big merchandising and have all the celebrity wrestlers (i.e Cena, HHH, Taker). In my third brand of ECW, this will be for the real wrestling fans, with athletic and hardcore wrestlers (w/ Haas, Benjamin, Burke, Noble, the Hardyz; and not putting in the likes of Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, Snitsky). Of course, a couple of "celebrity wrestlers" are needed to bring attention to the brand. In other words, my version of ECW is something like the X Division.
2) Diva Search Contest will not be held annually. It's a good source of revenue to have guys voting for hot babes, but having it every year seems pointless and that'll just add to the unused talent.
3) Pay-per-views. I would revert to when brands have their own pay-per-views. (Like Backlash being RAW exclusive; GAB being Smackdown exclusive) The Big Four Pay-per-views will still remain tri-branded.
4) An annual Elimination Chamber match event at Summerslam. In 2006, when I saw a second consecutive elimination chamber match at NYR, I thought, why not make NYR an elimination chamber pay-per-view. Summerslam would be the logical choice because Royal Rumble has the 30 man over the top, and Survivor Series has its own elimination tag. Can't make it at the Biggest stage of them all.
5) Expand WWE internationally. This wasn't my idea, but Slyfox's. I didn't think of this, but thought it would be a great idea. Credit to Slyfox.
So, what'd you guys think?
Slyfox696
03-09-2008, 12:04 PM
I like all your ideas apart from hiring Russo and Hart.Russo is a god-awful booker with terrible input.Hart is old school.He dosn,t undertand the new way matches are done.The future is flying high and not submission after submission.Russo is not booking anything, he is just adding his VERY creative mind to the mix. No one can doubt that the man thinks outside the box, and I will be putting that great creativity to my use. I can use what I want, and not use what's crap.
The future is NOT high flying, the future is good wrestling. It doesn't matter what style is being used, the same fundamental attributes apply. Hart is there to help layout the match, not tell them what to do. He can tell them if this high flying spot makes no sense in the story of the match. He can suggest ways to add sensible aerial maneuvers. A guy like him would be a great boon to guys like Shelton, and Morrison and Punk, guys who are talented but don't know how to work a good match yet. Hart is there it inject psychology into a wrestler's match, not tell them what to do.
Otherwise, thank you for the positive feedback.
Mighty NorCal
03-09-2008, 02:30 PM
Booking:
1) Cena wins the title at Wrestlemania in the Triple Threat, and the Undertaker wins the title against Edge. Flair beats HBK.
2) Backlash - Main-event features two guest referee matches. Cena vs. Orton with HHH as guest referee and Taker vs. Edge with Batista guest referee
3) Judgment Day - Features HHH and Cena vs. Undertaker and Batista
4) Vengeance - Features Fatal Four-Way, HHH vs. Orton vs. Edge vs. Batista. Winner gets to challenge for title of his brand. HHH and Batista are last two standing. Finish sees referee knocked out, new referee to ring, belly to back suplex by HHH, both men with shoulders down for 2 count, both referees counting both men have shoulders up by three, but each referee counts a different wrestler for a three count. Mass confusion and chaos. No one knows who the #1 contender is. Cena faces Kennedy, and Taker faces MVP.
5) Great American Bash - Cena and Taker vs. Edge and Orton. Main Event: #1 Contenders match, HHH vs. Batista. Cena and Taker at ringside on different side of commenting tables, firing shots at each other. Finish sees both men knocked out after a grueling match and the referee administering the 10 count. Match ends in draw.
Next night on Raw, McMahon declares since they've had two matches with no clear winner between HHH and Batista, BOTH men get title shots.
6) Summerslam - Hulk Hogan retires Ric Flair. The culmination of Batista vs. Taker and Cena vs. HHH feuds. Batista vs. Taker in the Cell, Cena vs. HHH in a last man standing. Undertaker defeats Batista, and Cena defeats HHH.
Fast forward to the Royal Rumble, with occasional intermingling of Cena vs. Undertaker. Neither man loses belt since Wrestlemania 24.
7) Royal Rumble - Cena vs. Kennedy, Taker vs. MVP. Cena and Taker win. Royal Rumble match winner gets title shot. Entrants 1-28 enter. #29 entrant is John Cena. #30 entrant is the Undertaker. Cena and Taker are last two men in Rumble. Taker eliminates Cena after Kennedy distraction.
Next night on Raw, Taker claims his title shot at Wrestlemania...in a match against Cena. Of course, Taker already has the World Heavyweight Title, so this will be a title unification match! McMahon's music hits, he says that both men must earn their spot at Wrestlemania. It's Kennedy vs. Cena, and Edge vs. Undertaker.
8) No Way Out - Cena and Taker both retain.
9) Wrestlemania 25- Main Event: Cena vs. Undertaker. Wrestlemania undefeated streak vs. Wrestlemania undefeated streak. WWE Title vs. World Heavyweight Title. The Phenom vs. Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. The Undertaker vs. Cena. Both men won their titles at Wrestlemania from the year before, so BOTH men are year long champions. BOTH men are the undisputed BEST of their brand. This is the best of Smackdown vs. the best of Raw. This is the very best of the WWE.
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Sly, to make money, people will have to want to continue watching your program...and I seriously think you will alienate a LOT of veiwers by putting on tag matches and number one contender matches regularly on your PPVs. I dont necessarily mind the scenarion you gave, under two conditions....Undertaker doesnt tap. Not becuase Its to Cena, not anything like that, just becuase tapping out isnt something the Undertaker does. it totally goes against everything thats ever been built about him over the last 17 years. That would be bullshit. If you want to have your heel turn, allow Cena to do it with a succession of char shots and FUs. just have him go totally crazy, and destroy Undertaker, leave him laying bloody. Then have the scenario on RAW the night after.
1) Let my ECW contract run out, and do away with the brand. Yes, I know I would lose TV revenue by doing this, but I think it would boost interest in the other shows for two reasons. 1) Would lessen the obvious oversaturation of the current wrestling product and 2) would bolster the rosters of both Raw and Smackdown. At this point, it doesn't appear like there will be a mass exodus of wrestlers like what happened from 2002-2005, so fans are now used to guys that will be around a while.
2) Fire worthless talent, trimming rosters. Maybe send them back to development, but there is no need to see worthless guys like Kevin Thorne or Carlito on TV.
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Im fine with both of these. as long as in between your fat trimming, and the abolishment of ECW, the best lower mid card/young guys can get used still.
3) Open an expansion promotion in Japan. This can be used as another development promotion, both for US wrestlers, AND for Japanese wrestlers. However, unlike Shadowmancer, the wrestlers in Japan are not being groomed for US TV. Instead, they are being groomed for Japanese fans. Thus will begin my expansion into world wrestling domination. Next, I will move into Mexico, then Europe, and then anywhere wrestling is watched.
Obviously, this will take a lot of capital and time, but it can be done, and the end reward will be the biggest wrestling empire ever, where WWE and wrestling will be synonymous with each other just like facial wipes and Kleenex.
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THIS is an absolutely GREAT idea. Although I DO feel at some times you should have cross promotion battles and invasions. Invasion angles are always loved by fans. U could have wars between WWE USA and WWE Mexico for instance things of that nature. Or non title exhibitions between all three world champions whenever one does a tour. Make the international tours once a year or so. You could even still have the option of having the japanese shows or Mexican shows on american programing. Add them WWE 24/7. I know there is a market for that. Im sure Shadowmancer would watch WWE Japan on-demand on WWE 24/7. And I think itd be a great idea to send developmental guys to these other promotions to gain big arena experience, match experience against good foreighn workers, becuase being thousands of miles away, its almost like the squashes dont even count in the actual promotion that the wrestler belongs too. Will fans in WWE mexico care or even KNOW if a new guy gets squashed in WWE Japan? No. But when he makes his debut, he will have experience. I think this idea is awesome, and one that im not real sure why the WWE hasnt done yet.
5) I will hold a show every once in a while at the Hammerstein. While I realize booking changes completely for a show like this, I think the idiocy of those fans won't completely overrun the value of a rabid crowd, and will begin to foster that type of attitude for other crowds.
6) Hire back Vince Russo, Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman. Heyman and Bischoff work creative for Smackdown, and Russo works creative for Raw. Obviously, they are not only creative, but will have good input.
7) Try hard to hire guys like Bret Hart as a road agent, to help wrestlers lay out matches. I realize the difficulty with HBK, but Hart can work with Smackdown group.
8) Hire a group of people to oversee scripts and shows. These people will not have any idea of future creative plans or booking, but are there solely to gauge the logic of a show. Does it make sense for Wrestler A to do this? Why put on a match for free that you're advertising for a PPV, etc. They send their script revisions, and their show reviews in the form of writing, so as to never be privy to future storyline plans. The writers then take these critiques and adjust shows as necessary, depending on future storylines.
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Got no problem with much of this, and btw u wouldnt have to try that hard to get Hart I dont think. Vince is dead and the WWE is your remember?? The reason he wont do it now is becuase he wont work for Vince.
9) Minimize gimmick matches. Gimmick matches are overrused which negates their effectiveness.
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agreed.
Very good overall Sly. I definately do NOT agree with your booking throuout the year, or the creshendo. But I would probably only make Minor changes to it, if that was the scenario we were going with. And the International expansion idea is EXCELLENT. well done.
Mighty NorCal
03-09-2008, 04:27 PM
Well, the brand split needs to end. It makes things too watered down, and illegit seeming, and provides for some absolute shit wrestling and angles, and time wasting. There isnt enough of an abundance of over talent for a brand split.s o therefore if the brand split ends there is no need for a draft anymore.
If the brand split is to stay I think the draft is a good thing although they should tweak it a little. Have each brand get 4 picks, two selected, two at random.
Slyfox696
03-09-2008, 04:43 PM
Sly, to make money, people will have to want to continue watching your program...and I seriously think you will alienate a LOT of veiwers by putting on tag matches and number one contender matches regularly on your PPVs.The second tag match goes in the undercard to the main-event which was the number 1 contenders match. That match builds to Summerslam. While some fans will certainly not be happy, they will also most definitely tune into Raw the next night. And with the next PPV being Summerslam, they're going to buy anyways.
Plus, it's going to be the third-tier priced PPV, so it's not like they're getting ripped out of their Wrestlemania dollar either.
I realize it's different, and like you said, could tend to make fans not want to tune in. But, I think given the way it's layed out, it won't hurt.
I dont necessarily mind the scenarion you gave, under two conditions....Undertaker doesnt tap. Not becuase Its to Cena, not anything like that, just becuase tapping out isnt something the Undertaker does. it totally goes against everything thats ever been built about him over the last 17 years. That would be bullshit. If you want to have your heel turn, allow Cena to do it with a succession of char shots and FUs. just have him go totally crazy, and destroy Undertaker, leave him laying bloody. Then have the scenario on RAW the night after.
We saw Austin do that to Rock less than ten years ago. Undertaker tapping out is PRECISELY what makes the heel turn so much better. Like you said, Taker doesn't tap. Ever (well, with one exception). Taker just doesn't tapped. It WOULD be bullshit, or that's what fans would be saying. So, what do they do? They boo Cena like crazy.
That's the point. You freshen Cena with a heel turn, but instead of smarks cheering for him like they most likely would if he was a cool heel, they're going to be leading the boos for him. It would be a 100% heel turn, and about the only way it could be accomplished.
I mean, look how upset you got over it, and it's just a figment of my imagination. You said it was bullshit and should never happen.
Which is precisely why it would be so good.
Mighty NorCal
03-09-2008, 04:49 PM
We saw Austin do that to Rock less than ten years ago. Undertaker tapping out is PRECISELY what makes the heel turn so much better. Like you said, Taker doesn't tap. Ever (well, with one exception). Taker just doesn't tapped. It WOULD be bullshit, or that's what fans would be saying. So, what do they do? They boo Cena like crazy.
That's the point. You freshen Cena with a heel turn, but instead of smarks cheering for him like they most likely would if he was a cool heel, they're going to be leading the boos for him. It would be a 100% heel turn, and about the only way it could be accomplished.
I mean, look how upset you got over it, and it's just a figment of my imagination. You said it was bullshit and should never happen.
Which is precisely why it would be so good.
I think the Austin-Rock scenario would be much better carried off here than when it was or your scenario. And it wouldnt be so much as me being pissed at Cena for Making Taker tap, it would be me being pissed at YOU. Its not even about his opponet to me, its about respect for Taker, and all he is built to be. Can we come to an compromise??? Taker passes out in the STFU. He doesnt tap, but anyone with that kind of pressure on the head and neck for that amount of time is gonna pass out. AFTER he passes out, Cena destroys him leaves him in a bloody heap. AS in the clean win wasnt enough, he wanted to piss in everyones face who booes him, so he destroys the Deadman they all cherish so. Your heel turn happens, and is more effective if anything.
RAWneedsMYSTERIO
03-09-2008, 04:49 PM
It doesnt matter though whether its random or selected as the same people will be picked because it is fixed.
The Best Draft That i have seen is 2005 draft with Cena And Tista swapping Brands. 2007 one was shocking as no decent person was swapped. Fine Bobby Lashley Came To Raw And Kennedy. But They Were Obviously Gonna Go.
How About A Draft After WrestleMania? They Could Charge More For The PPV As Their is an extra feature in it.
Can You imagine Undertaker beating Edge but then getting drafted to Raw. Or Vise Versa.
Also I Like Halloween Havoc, and Fully Loaded. They should be swapped for GAB and No Mercy.
A Chamber Type Match should be at No Way Out.
And The Royal Rumble winner should never compete for the title at No Way Out.
They should have more bands playing on Raw, SD and ECDub. I Know its not wrestling but it is World Wrestling (Entertainment) and i think it would appeal to a wider audience.
Finally i would have WWE Roullette as a SNME option. As it is a great idea.
Feel free to rip my ideas to shreds.
Mighty NorCal
03-09-2008, 04:54 PM
It doesnt matter though whether its random or selected as the same people will be picked because it is fixed.
Well, obviously its fixed, and the picks would end being the same, im just wanting it to be half/hakf for format purposes, IE you could have matches with the winning show getting to make a manual pick, things like that. It just would further raise intrigue around the draft. And I dont think it should be at WM. WM should be about wrestling, the main event, and nothing else. But I do think the draft should happen on both shows, the week after WM. Half the picks on RAW, the other half on SD!.
Slyfox696
03-09-2008, 05:01 PM
And it wouldnt be so much as me being pissed at Cena for Making Taker tap, it would be me being pissed at YOU. Its not even about his opponet to me, its about respect for Taker, and all he is built to be. Yes, but who would you lash your anger out on? Cena. You don't get to boo the creative, so you boo the wrestler. Or you boo McMahon himself, which only helps his heel character. The WWE wins either way.
Can we come to an compromise??? Taker passes out in the STFU. He doesnt tap, but anyone with that kind of pressure on the head and neck for that amount of time is gonna pass out. AFTER he passes out, Cena destroys him leaves him in a bloody heap. AS in the clean win wasnt enough, he wanted to piss in everyones face who booes him, so he destroys the Deadman they all cherish so. Your heel turn happens, and is more effective if anything.The Undertaker is in his mid 40s. He's going to be retiring permanently within the next few years. He's 16 or 17 and zero by the time this match takes place. Don't you think it's time for him to use this incredible winning streak to help someone other than himself.
I understand your reluctance. I do. But, him passing out makes him look better, and doesn't really help Cena at all. As far as destroying him after the match, that's the type of thing you see on Raw, not really on Wrestlemania's main-event.
I know that you like Cena and all SlyFox but having him booked in every single championship match and with no real story feuds (u know like the ones wrestlers should be having) is getting redundant and that is coming from someone who respects the hell out of the guy. But if you want ppl to watch ur product, shouldn't u have several guys who can go espcially if something bad happens to Cena....I mean do great tv shows not have several great characters: see 2 and a 1/2 Men: Charlie, Alan, or movies have great characters: Departed; Billy Costigan, Colin Sullivan, Frank Costello.....
Cena has been the top guy for years now and it is getting redundant having him hold the title for 2 years....WWE fans do NOT WANT another Hogan....Orton, Kennedy, MVP, Edge and both Hardys need to be fuirther established and given title reigns of their own as I believe they all could hold the spotlight and make the WWE some money.
first of all this would be my roster after mania....I listed Stone Cold out of repsect I know he would not be a wrestler...and when you look at my roster, you notice a few name changes and absences...no Great Khali? No?
GM: SHANE MCMAHON-yes u read this right, he would be kickass and it is what I have wanted for years.
RAW
1. STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN
2. TRIPLE-H
3. JOHN CENA
4. RANDY ORTON
5. CHRIS JERICHO
6. JBL
7. MR KENNEDY
8. UMAGA
9. SHAWN MICHAELS
10. JEFF HARDY
11. KANE
12. CARLITO
13. SANTINO
14. LANCE CADE
15. TERVOR MURDOCK
16. PAUL LONDON
17. BRIAN KENDRICK
18. RORY MCALLISTER
19. ROBBIE MCALLISTER
20. HARDCORE HOLLY
21. CODY RHODES
22. DAVEY HARRY SMITH
23. TED DIBEASE JR.
24. TEDDY HART
25. TJ WILSON
Did you guys notice I added the Hart Foundation? That would be awesome to see them all debut soon (u know its gonna happen) D.H. Smith needs TJ Wilson, Nattie Neidhart. (Teddy hart and Ted Dibiase Jr need to fix their own problems too)
DIVAS
1. BETH PHEONIX
2. MELINA
3. JILLIAN
4. NATTIE NEIDHART
5. VICTORIA
6. MICKIE JAMES
7. CANDICE MICHELLE
SMACKDOWN-Vickie Guerrero
1. UNDERTAKER
2. EDGE
3. BATISTA
4. BIG SHOW
5. CM PUNK
6. ELIJAH BURKE
7. SHELTON BENJAMIN
8. MARK HENRY
9. MATT HARDY
10. MVP
11. FINLAY
12. JOHN MORRISON
13. MIZ
14. VISCERA
15. MATT STRIKER
16. REY MYSTERIO
17. CHAVO GUERRERO
18. SHANNON MOORE
19. JIMMY WANG YANG
20. GREGORY HELMS
21. ZACK RYDER
22. CURT HAWKINS
23. JESSE
24. FESTUS
25. KEVIN THORN
DIVAS
1. TORRIE WILSON
2. ASHLEY
3. BROOKE
4. LAYLA
5. MARIA
6. MICHELLE MCCOOL
What should be after Mania 24
Raw Champs
WWE: Triple-H
IC: Jeff Hardy
Tag: Holly-Rhodes
Women's: Beth Phoenix
Smackdown
World: Undertaker
US: MVP
Tag: Morrison-Miz
They SHOULD ABOLISH ECW and combine the rosters....I would also make single brand payperviews while keeping the big four...
Backlash
Raw Matches-3 or 4 title matches along with 4 rivalry matches
(Revenge PPV for Mania)
Judgment Day
SD matches-3 or 4 title matches along witt 4 rivalry matches
(Revenge PPV for Mania along with start of new feuds)
King of the Ring-bring this back, MOST WRESTLING fans loved KING OF THE RING....a tournament to establish a #1 contender to a title of their choice for Summerslam....
Vengeance-I would make this Raw only again....with old and new feuds combined
Great American Bash-Smackdown only ppv but I would have a month buildup...
Summerslam-new feuds... a top tier match-HBK vs Hogan-ex
and both titles
Unforgiven-Raw ppv and revenge for Summerslam
No Mercy-see Judgment Day
Survivor Series-I would keep it the way they do it...
Armaggedon-Raw PPV...only Raw PPV-prelude to Royal Rumble
Royal Rumble-similar
No Way Out-the way they did it before combining shows...
Wrestlemania- keep it the way they do it now....
as for title reigns
WWE
Triple-H-Mania-Unforgiven
Jeff Hardy-Unforgiven-Survivor Series
Randy Orton-Survivor Series-Wrestlemania
Chris Jericho-wins title next year-Y2J has never won a Royal Rumble before...why not?
World
Undertaker-Mania-Summerslam
Big Show-Summerslam-Surviovor Series-
Batista-Survivor Series-Royal Rumble
Edge-Royal Rumble-Mania
Matt Hardy wins at Mania 25
Mania 25 2 World title Matches
Matt Hardy vs Edge
Chris Jericho vs Randy Orton
Undertaker vs Heel John Cena
I would ONLY AND ONLY make John Cena win if he beets Taker with chair shot after chair shot....
Undertaker vs HBK-the only other guy qualified to beat Taker is HBK....the showstopper...
I would advertise more merchandise on other ppl other than Cena...Hardys are good, so is y2J and others.
Slyfox696
03-09-2008, 06:39 PM
I know that you like Cena and all SlyFox but having him booked in every single championship match and with no real story feuds (u know like the ones wrestlers should be having) is getting redundant and that is coming from someone who respects the hell out of the guy. But if you want ppl to watch ur product, shouldn't u have several guys who can go espcially if something bad happens to Cena....I mean do great tv shows not have several great characters: see 2 and a 1/2 Men: Charlie, Alan, or movies have great characters: Departed; Billy Costigan, Colin Sullivan, Frank Costello.....
Cena has been the top guy for years now and it is getting redundant having him hold the title for 2 years....WWE fans do NOT WANT another Hogan....Orton, Kennedy, MVP, Edge and both Hardys need to be fuirther established and given title reigns of their own as I believe they all could hold the spotlight and make the WWE some money. Well, there are a lot more things going on than just Cena, I just listed the main-event feuds.
And, my liking for Cena really had little to do with the booking of Cena. Cena is the biggest draw, and contrary to what you said, more and more fans tuned in and bought Cena PPVs. The reason why Cena had the year long streak was not because I liked him, simply to build for the Wrestlemania main-event. It would make the main-event of WM 25 that much bigger if both men were year long champions.
Shadowmancer
03-09-2008, 06:51 PM
So, basically you want the WWE to regress to indy style booking? Hire a bunch of foreign talent that has been proven time and again to not draw, hire a bunch of indy talent who are not ready to be put in the spotlight, use a talent exchange which would never benefit the WWE, but could benefit competition, and randomly change the name of a show which will do nothing but lose viewership.
No offense Shadowmancer, but I thought you could do better.
I never gave a Time Table to my stuff.
Where did I say I would change the Booking Style, I said I would hire guys, I would develop them to a WWE style while keeping the key components of what made them them on the Indy Circuit.
As I said before Cruiserweights can draw, what do you call the X-Division. There is a market for good Jnr. Heavyweight wrestling. Signing Mistico to a Contract to help create a division that the WWE can be proud of. Booking them so they are Light Heavyweights rather than miniature Heavyweights, that doesn't work. Hiring in the guys from Japan and Mexico would be as a way to build this division until a good group of American Light Heavyweights comes in again. but your response also shows the xenophobic nature of American Wrestling fans in general to the fact that a Foreign Wrestler could be better than an American Wrestler.
Anyway the Talent exchange is for experience in front of huge crowds rather than helping the competition. So it would be in a company like Zero 1-Max.
The Indy Talent I mentioned is hired on two factors, 1. it keeps them away from TNA, 2. These guys get Heel Heat when they are heels in Ring of Honor, is that not a good thing since you criticise (sp?) RoH as being that easy to get over in that some people could take a dump in the ring and it is Cheered. These guys get heat on the Indy circuit so hiring them would benefit the WWE in the long term which is my point.
The changing of ECW as a Name is a long term one that can be explained through the storylines. It makes sense if it is done logically, and you wouldn't lose revenue because you have the storyline develop where someoone manages to get that as a stipulation against say Tommy Dreamer that ECW is dead therefore they want to change the name, then ram it home to the audience that ECW will be changing names to another name, whatever name it is. Do that for a few Weeks then announce it and have a special Two Hour show of ECW as it has been renamed. It makes perfect sense if you do it like that. My first list was all just basic concepts anyway.
Now onto actual Changes. I would Tell Cena to decide between an STS or an STF for his STFU and then book accordingly. If it is an STS chosen no more tapping out to a Sleeper hold. It is stupid and makes little sense from any angle. The Guy can't get out of it, OK. But that doesn't mean you tap out to a sleeper hold.
Ill post the PPV changes later once I Put it all down. This was in response to Sly's critique of my first part of the changes I would make.
Takerfan2007
03-09-2008, 10:11 PM
The second tag match goes in the undercard to the main-event which was the number 1 contenders match. That match builds to Summerslam. While some fans will certainly not be happy, they will also most definitely tune into Raw the next night. And with the next PPV being Summerslam, they're going to buy anyways.
Plus, it's going to be the third-tier priced PPV, so it's not like they're getting ripped out of their Wrestlemania dollar either.
I realize it's different, and like you said, could tend to make fans not want to tune in. But, I think given the way it's layed out, it won't hurt.
We saw Austin do that to Rock less than ten years ago. Undertaker tapping out is PRECISELY what makes the heel turn so much better. Like you said, Taker doesn't tap. Ever (well, with one exception). Taker just doesn't tapped. It WOULD be bullshit, or that's what fans would be saying. So, what do they do? They boo Cena like crazy.
That's the point. You freshen Cena with a heel turn, but instead of smarks cheering for him like they most likely would if he was a cool heel, they're going to be leading the boos for him. It would be a 100% heel turn, and about the only way it could be accomplished.
I mean, look how upset you got over it, and it's just a figment of my imagination. You said it was bullshit and should never happen.
Which is precisely why it would be so good.
I dont believe that it would be good. The fans who had watched the undertaker over the years would get pissed that the WWE made taker tap. WWE would lose some of there fan base due to a feeling of disgust by the fans that Cena beat taker at WM and that taker tapped out. I do want to see a WM25 taker vs cena and that would be a good match, but taker would need to win that match, the streak is too valuable to be broken by someone as awful as cena, i would rather see it broken by UMAGA then John Cena.
Esteban Ochocinco
03-09-2008, 10:42 PM
I know that when I feel sick to my stomach, it's probably because it something that makes sense. Seriously, me watching wrestling since I was 5 or at least remember watching wrestling, and then me seeing the Undertaker debut when I was ten, and by the time I'm 30, he's tapping out to some punk at the Silver Anniversary of the companies biggest show, I would be fucking furious. In fact I would be so fucking upset, I might not watch again.
But then again, isn't that what wrestling is. If you want to talk aobut a truly shocking and disgusting act, that would do it. That would rank right up there with Hogan forming the n.w.o. Seriously, Cena is hated by smarks, but we all want him to turn heel, so that will defeat the purpose. He'll become cool again and the smarks will cheer, it's a stupid cycle. Sly's right, the only way to guarantee that he doesn't get cheered is too do something so damn ridiculous like, making the Undertaker tap during the main event of Wrestlemania to the STFU. That makes me sick to my stomach just thinking about it, and I'm pretty sure almost anyone on here feels the same way, but it would work.
As far as this thread, I'm going to do two scenarios, one supporting the tri-brand expansion, and the other monopolizing the WWE once again into a single brand.
RabidChihuahua
03-09-2008, 10:55 PM
I dont believe that it would be good. The fans who had watched the undertaker over the years would get pissed that the WWE made taker tap. WWE would lose some of there fan base due to a feeling of disgust by the fans that Cena beat taker at WM and that taker tapped out. I do want to see a WM25 taker vs cena and that would be a good match, but taker would need to win that match, the streak is too valuable to be broken by someone as awful as cena, i would rather see it broken by UMAGA then John Cena.
You're kidding right? Right?! To me, Umaga has become almost as big a joke as the Great Khali. Whenever those two come on the screen, I change the channel.
Frankly, the streak will end at some point, so why not Cena? He's the WWE's current version of Bret Hart, at least as far as carrying the company during a "down" time. I would think UT would prefer to put over Cena as opposed to Umaga, because Cena makes money while Umaga doesn't. (In my opinion as I obviously don't have the cash breakdown for WWE).
Well, there are a lot more things going on than just Cena, I just listed the main-event feuds.
And, my liking for Cena really had little to do with the booking of Cena. Cena is the biggest draw, and contrary to what you said, more and more fans tuned in and bought Cena PPVs. The reason why Cena had the year long streak was not because I liked him, simply to build for the Wrestlemania main-event. It would make the main-event of WM 25 that much bigger if both men were year long champions.
ah well met but u see Cena has never and I mean NEVER lost a WWE title cleanly....so at what point would u see his title reign end? 2009 when I graduate from college.....see its 2008 now....or maybe 2015 when Im probably a dad by then....lol....all kidding aside..
I understand that Cena is the top guy but why not have several top guys...that way Cena does not have to be pushed too damn hard to be THE GUY...it can make him more credible and build him for a better Mania match...Cena does not need the title to make money...you can make CENA VS A PIECE OF TRASH and make a profit or Cena vs Mike Tyson...lol.....
So I would assume that u want to unite the brands? Like Smackdown vs Raw video game....good idea but lots of trimmed rosters....
I want cena to be heel soo badly....the way Hogan did it...have a stable beating a good guy up...say Hardy and then Cena comes makes the save but then FU on hardy...then a beatdown followed by chair shot after chair shot....
but if he is still a face...I really really want to see a Cena-McMahon feud...any of them any one of them...Shane, Stephanie, Vince....its been hinted at but McMahon feuds always make money even if internet fans get annoyed....Cena vs McMahon is something I want to see...
If we were to unite the brands...I would make one more Undertaker vs triple-H feud and that would last several months....the problem with today's feuds are that they are too short....Cena vs Edge was the best feud in a while because it was drawn out...it reminded me a lot of Rock-HHH....long feuds that are interesting make money.
The Deejish Invasion
03-10-2008, 07:18 PM
IrishCanadian25's World Wrestling Entertainment
Rosters and Championships
Monday Night Raw - Live Every Week
Leadership / Management
Commissioner / GM - Shane McMahon
Lt. Commissioner - Eric Bichoff
Tag Team Commissioner - Marty Jannetty
Cruiserweight Commissioner - Mike Sanders
Titles
World Heavyweight Championship
Intercontinental Championship
World Tag Team Championship
World Cruiserweight Championship
Wednesday Night Smackdown - Taped Tuesday Night
Leadership / Management
Commissioner / GM - Mick Foley
Lt. Commissioner - Paul Heyman
Women's Commissioner - Ivory
Hardcore Commissioner - Tommy Dreamer
Titles
WWE Championship
United States Championship
World Cruiserweight Championship
ECW Hardcore Championship
*Rosters remain unchanged, except for the following transactions:
To RAW: Morrison, Miz, Deuce, Domino, Jesse, Festus, Benjamin
To SD: Phoenix, Michelle, Ashley, Hall, James, Maria, Crazy, Melina
Release: Duggan, Adamle, Taylor, Henry, Singh, V, Boogeyman.
Annual Pay Per Views
January - Royal Rumble (winner always gets WM Title Shot)
February - Cyber Sunday
March - No Way Out
April - Wrestlemania
May - Backlash
June - Great American Bash
July - King of the Ring (winner gets SS Title Shot)
August - SummerSlam
September - Unforgiven
October - Halloween Havoc (feat. Raw / SD Roulette)
November - Survivor Series (4 on 4 elimination style matches)
December - Starcade
2008 and 2009 Hall of Fame Inductions
Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, and Ole Anderson (by Ric Flair)
Randy "Macho Man" Savage (by Ricky Steamboat)
Owen Hart (posthumous, by Bret Hart)
Yokozuna (by Mr. Fuji)
Ted DeBiase (my Mike Rotunda)
John Laurinitis (by his son)
Bob Backlund (by Lou Gianfrido)
Soeey to pick youer wwe apart IC25 but the ECW title is not a hardcore title, its a world championship, if you want to get rid of the brand get rid of the title it makes more sense then killing its credibility as the hardcore step child of the wwe, secondly i dont like the commisioner idea of bischoff and heyman, both guys want to write for the wwe not work under guys like foley.
i do like your hall of fame ideas , but benjamin to raw is also a no no they destroyed his credibility on the brand due to lack of mic skills ecw is where he belongs
Y 2 Jake
03-11-2008, 09:58 AM
This thread is great by the way Norcal. It has so much potential. If I put all my ideas in one thread it would be a total overload. So I'll do a different aspect of the promotion ever few days.
Titles (Primarily):
Minor Info:
The brand split is gone. That means half the titles are gone. Goodbye to the World Heavyweight, ECW Championship, United States, WWE Tag & Cruiserweight. I'm keeping the titles that have been in WWE longer, and therfore have the longer WWE history attached to them.
The brand split was done over a few months. Raw vs. Smackdown & ECW. Tag teams faced tag teams, mid carders faced mid carders, and main eventers faced main eventers. Everybody was treated equally. Bar the enhancement talent. By that I mean lower card guys and jobbers. Tag teams weren't used in squashes.
The brand split didn't end at a big 4 PPV. It ended on one of the ''B'' shows. WrestleMania would be better on paper. But why not give a normal show a boost?
While the brand split is over. But Raw & Smackdown have wrestlers that aren't so much exclusive to that show. Just primarily on that one. But that isn't to say they can't move from show to show, should they be in a feud or whatever.
No ECW by the way. It's Velocity again, or a new name. It's internet only. But it's not a show as such. Just matches. For example. Each week there would be 3 matches or so on each show. You can choose to watch one or all. It would be a way to gauge who's gaining popularity. If WWE find that Harry Smith matches draw a lot of viewers each week then maybe it's time to make him a bigger part of the show. There would also be promos by the talent on the show. Opponents talking about opponents. Entirely improvised. If somebody has untapped mic potential, it'l soon be noticed.
Anyway in my regime titles are important. And they follow a pretty rigid formula.
They don't need to be defended each month. For TV. It doesn't matter if they're defended on House Shows. In fact title matches are encouraged at House Shows. Because you aren't going to get them ever week on TV, and not every month on PPV.
This realtes to the above section. UFC is huge right now. Most of the time the titles mean something. Yet the titles aren't defended sometimes for months on end. Nobody forgot about Randy Couture after he won the title of Sylvia. It took 5 months for him to fight again. People anticipated the match more if anything. I'm not saying leave it 5 months. But title shots shouldn't be given away to just anybody.
Not all the titles are equal. They're just different. The WWE Championship is the main prize. But the gulf between that and the IC title isn't huge. They're different leagues is all.
Challengers have to earn their title shot. They don't just ask and recieve. They have to have had a good run leading up to it. No coming back from a long absence like Jericho and getting a title shot.
If you want a title match then you must beat the champion in a non title match first. It doesn't matter what type of match. It can be a tag, 6-man or singles.
Title reigns on average aren't short. And changes don't happen on TV. Certainly not unless there is a real problem. If you though Cena's title reign, and MVP's title reign are too long, then you won't like my WWE.
If a title reign is transitional then the following reign won't be. Sometimes transitional reigns are needed, but they don't need to be done frequently.
Each title follows a pretty similar formula. It doesn't matter. Because each title division is different. And they won't be in sync so it's won't be obvious.
I came up with more, but I'm struggling to remember it at the moment. I'll be editing my post when more comes to me.
Esteban Ochocinco
03-11-2008, 04:09 PM
Okay, I'll take a stab at this. So for my first what I would do scenario, I'm going to attempt to save the Tri-Brand that is already set up. I don't necessarily think that the Tri-Brand is the best way to go, but no one has really made a case for it, so I'll attempt to do it.
First and foremost, since I suddenly have this money and I'm in charge, I make an offer to TNA. Why? simple, I want their roster, and I want them to go away. I want to make competition without actually having to compete with anyone, the basic philosophy of the brand split to begin with. Why share money with someone else when I can create my own competition and get all the money. I simply absorb TNA or I will end up destroying it.
The 3 Brands. Regardless if the takeover is successful or not, I do what I can to get ECW a 2nd hour. The main thing with individual brands is just that, individuality. Back when the brand extension first started, there was a sense of pride in being a "Raw" or "Smackdown" guy. It worked because they had, outside of four times a year, little to no interaction at all with each other. It made interpromotional match ups more significant, because you weren't sure if you were going to get Kane vs. The Undertaker, Brock vs. Lesnar, Angle vs. Michaels, or any of those again. The WWE raped its goose that laid the golden egg with this and mounted it on the wall. They ruined years of potential feuds to cash them all in at once because they don't have the patience to see things through.
As far as the Brands, why not use the name WCW? The original plan of the brand extension was going to be WCW Monday Nitro and WWF Smackdown!, until someone decided that Booker T vs. Buff Bagwell was an amazing way to showcase all of this WCW talent you acquired. Instead of shitting on the legacy of the most legit #2 company ever, I glorify it. If ECW is worthy enough of getting a show, surely WCW is. So long story short, you have ECW already, you keep WWE Raw as your flagship on Mondays, and Smackdown becomes a WCW show.
The Rosters/GMs: This one is tough. I would see the company as myself being an owner of a pro sports franchise, I don't want to be involved. I want to put people with a mind for the business in the appropriate positions. I wouldn't pretend to know how to run the business. I bring in three guys and tell them, you each have a brand, make it better then his brand. In fact, I want you to put each other out of business is the end goal. I wash my hands of it, and allocate certain dollar amounts and let those three individuals go with it, for me, that would be Jim Cornette, Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman. The three can't stand each other in real life, so they would have a drive to out do each other.
Now as far as the rosters would work, Kayfabe wise the GM's are given X amount of dollars. I keep this as "real" as you can with wrestling. As in, you sign guys to contracts and length of contracts, but it counts against your salary cap. During drafts or trades or anything, if you violate that cap, you are penalized and forced to cut wrestlers that take you over that gap. Give it a "real" sports feel and keep people up to date on how close you are to going over the cap.
As far as the GM's go, they would really be in charge of their own brand. They are in charge of hiring people they feel can get the job done, they would only have to answer to me and the board of directors. Obviously final moves involving huge shake ups would have to meet board approval.
As far as belts, I would keep the belts to each brand at this point. Basically you have all of the WWE belts on Raw at this point and all of the WCW belts on Smackdown, so no major need for change. However, ECW would need to add a tag team division and a secondary title. Unlike Sly, I think there is money in the cruiserweights. They shouldn't be the focal point of a company, but there is a niched out there that enjoy watching them that no one is exploiting. A cruiserweight/X-Division type atmosphere would fit perfectly in an ECW environment.
Anywho, I'm ramblign and need time to rethink everything else I was thinking about. So to sum it up in a nutshell. Think of it as going back to a semi-NWA type of atmosphere, but I own it all. Major shake ups between the rosters would have to meet with board approval, but pretty much the 3 gm's have complete financial control over their respective brands. If they don't meet certain goals, they'll be replaced.
Mighty NorCal
03-12-2008, 04:23 AM
While the brand split is over. But Raw & Smackdown have wrestlers that aren't so much exclusive to that show. Just primarily on that one. But that isn't to say they can't move from show to show, should they be in a feud or whatever.
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Thats exactly what I was meaning when speaking on my ending of the brand split, so that people could get proper TV time. the top 4 to 6 guys would be on both shows, but everyone else for the most part ould be exclusive, without ACTUALLY being exsclusive
Challengers have to earn their title shot. They don't just ask and recieve. They have to have had a good run leading up to it. No coming back from a long absence like Jericho and getting a title shot.
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exactly the way it should be. 100% agreed
Title reigns on average aren't short. And changes don't happen on TV. Certainly not unless there is a real problem. If you though Cena's title reign, and MVP's title reign are too long, then you won't like my WWE.
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perfectly fine, very good idea. The length of the reighn isnt what makes a long title reighn grating, its the booking of the matches throughout the reighn. thats why so many find Cena's run unfavorable, and practically NO ONE has ever complained about MVP's run.
First and foremost, since I suddenly have this money and I'm in charge, I make an offer to TNA. Why? simple, I want their roster, and I want them to go away. I want to make competition without actually having to compete with anyone, the basic philosophy of the brand split to begin with. Why share money with someone else when I can create my own competition and get all the money. I simply absorb TNA or I will end up destroying it.
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DAMN brilliant idea. WWE would be fairly stacked with TNA's roster added to them.
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The 3 Brands. Regardless if the takeover is successful or not, I do what I can to get ECW a 2nd hour. The main thing with individual brands is just that, individuality. Back when the brand extension first started, there was a sense of pride in being a "Raw" or "Smackdown" guy. It worked because they had, outside of four times a year, little to no interaction at all with each other. It made interpromotional match ups more significant, because you weren't sure if you were going to get Kane vs. The Undertaker, Brock vs. Lesnar, Angle vs. Michaels, or any of those again. The WWE raped its goose that laid the golden egg with this and mounted it on the wall. They ruined years of potential feuds to cash them all in at once because they don't have the patience to see things through.
As far as the Brands, why not use the name WCW? The original plan of the brand extension was going to be WCW Monday Nitro and WWF Smackdown!, until someone decided that Booker T vs. Buff Bagwell was an amazing way to showcase all of this WCW talent you acquired. Instead of shitting on the legacy of the most legit #2 company ever, I glorify it. If ECW is worthy enough of getting a show, surely WCW is. So long story short, you have ECW already, you keep WWE Raw as your flagship on Mondays, and Smackdown becomes a WCW show.
The Rosters/GMs: This one is tough. I would see the company as myself being an owner of a pro sports franchise, I don't want to be involved. I want to put people with a mind for the business in the appropriate positions. I wouldn't pretend to know how to run the business. I bring in three guys and tell them, you each have a brand, make it better then his brand. In fact, I want you to put each other out of business is the end goal. I wash my hands of it, and allocate certain dollar amounts and let those three individuals go with it, for me, that would be Jim Cornette, Eric Bischoff and Paul Heyman. The three can't stand each other in real life, so they would have a drive to out do each other.
Now as far as the rosters would work, Kayfabe wise the GM's are given X amount of dollars. I keep this as "real" as you can with wrestling. As in, you sign guys to contracts and length of contracts, but it counts against your salary cap. During drafts or trades or anything, if you violate that cap, you are penalized and forced to cut wrestlers that take you over that gap. Give it a "real" sports feel and keep people up to date on how close you are to going over the cap.
As far as the GM's go, they would really be in charge of their own brand. They are in charge of hiring people they feel can get the job done, they would only have to answer to me and the board of directors. Obviously final moves involving huge shake ups would have to meet board approval.
As far as belts, I would keep the belts to each brand at this point. Basically you have all of the WWE belts on Raw at this point and all of the WCW belts on Smackdown, so no major need for change. However, ECW would need to add a tag team division and a secondary title. Unlike Sly, I think there is money in the cruiserweights. They shouldn't be the focal point of a company, but there is a niched out there that enjoy watching them that no one is exploiting. A cruiserweight/X-Division type atmosphere would fit perfectly in an ECW environment.
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I absolutely LOVE this concept for tri brand extension. Personally I wouldnt keep the brand extension, but If i were to, this is certainley the best way it could be done. I love the salary cap idea. Although I would hope that your additions of belts, and a 2nd hour for ECW hinges on the absorbtion of TNA? becuase WWE certainley does NOT have the depth to add belts, and a division, AND another hour of programming at the current time.
But ive ALWAYS thought that they shouldve made SD! into WCW Nitro. I mean they use ECW, so whats wrong with using WCW?? Like you said, nothing at all. I really fell like if they made these brands seem truly independant, and rivals, it would be GREAT. they can try to recreate the "monday night wars" kind of, but with control of everything, and have all the money coming under one roof. But I think they should try to seperate and create rivalry so much between the brands, that it would make people forget they were all actually WWE. If you could absorb TNA, this idea would be fucking incredible. It would make something as simple as a brand jumping, and interbrand matches, a HUGE deal.
DanOrient
03-16-2008, 06:14 PM
Mighty NorCal, I have often thought about how I would run things if I was in control of the WWE and often wondered how people would take to my ideas.
I think you should take our ideas and decide what's good, bad or needs re-adjusting and then run your own little WWE production for us or even work with someone to help you.
It could make great reading and present you with an amazing challenge.
However I don't know how old or how busy you are so it may be a little too much lol
DanOrient
03-16-2008, 06:46 PM
How I would personally run things would be first wave ECW goodbye.
Then give General Manager positions to Shane McMahon and Mick Foley on each RAW and Smackdown.
RAW Live on Mondays
Smackdown Live on Wednesdays
Heat and Velocity following them two up as a show for like a reserve team!
PPV:
JAN - Royal Rumble
FEB - No Way Out
MAR - WrestleMania
APR - Vengeance
MAY - Judgment Day
JUN - King of the Ring
JUL - The Great American Bash
AUG - Summerslam
SEP - Unforgiven
OCT - No Mercy
NOV - Survivor Series
DEC - Armageddon
Backlash, One Night Stand and Cyber Sunday are taken out.
The fan voting night (aka Taboo Tuesday/Cyber Sunday) will now take place on RAW and Smackdown of one week in the year.
Championship Belts:
WWE CHAMPIONSHIP (defended on both RAW & Smackdown)
WWE INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP (Smackdown Only)
WWE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP (defended on both RAW & Smackdown)
WWE UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP (RAW Only)
WWE WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP (defended on both RAW & Smackdown)
WWE CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP (defended on both RAW & Smackdown)
WWE HARDCORE CHAMPIONSHIP (defended on both RAW & Smackdown)
(New Hardcore Champion given 48 hour protection)
I would not encourage the introduction of TNA for a tri branded set up.
It's good for WWE to have some competition and keeps the company on their toes. Also it's as good as a safety net for released WWE superstars.
Erm Madison Square Garden will forever play host to WrestleMania's after each 10 year period e.g. X, XX, XXX, XXXL, L, LX, LXX, LXXX, XC, C
Royal Rumble winners forever get a MAIN EVENT WWE Championship match at WrestleMania, King of the Ring winners forever get a MAIN EVENT WWE Championship match at Summerslam.
Survivor Series always has a least one 5 ON 5 Classic Tag Team Elimination Match.
WWE Superstars are drafted on the RAW straight after Vengeance (which I'd have as my April PPV).
If I think of more stuff I'll be sure to post.
The Deejish Invasion
03-16-2008, 06:51 PM
OK heres my attempt at runing things
like Shockmaster i feel there is more money in keeping the brand split but actually have it make sense, ECW with only one title doesnt make sense to me and also having stars from raw and smackdown invade ecw programming doesnt make sense
What i would do first is get rid of the current booking commites apart from the ecw booking commite, i can't stand the current booking commite as it is, i feel that smackdown is a laguhing stock at the moment i hate these stupid playboy diva matches so the following would happen here:
.ECW gets the cruiser title, all cruisers are moved to ECW to work and prove that they have the power to midcard and main event, ECW also gets tag titles due to the fact that the only real tag team division is on ECW anyways. Estrada would be gone as an on air GM and i would bring back the jackal aka Cyrus the virus to ECW broadcasting.
.Smackdown gets back its tag straps, we use the division properly by assembling tag teams that work and send london and kendrick back there, they where the best thing to happen to the tag straps on friday nights.
. every wrestler is brand exclusive including champions i hate the fact that the world champ beats the ecw champ in matches it makes the title and the person holding it look weak.
. I like Jakes idea of making people work for title opportunities i like the ranking system maybe we can use that to help elevate each wrestler on certain brands.
. all world titles are defended on ppvs, dont defend them on tv i hate the fact that every week the ecw title is defended, longer feuds and more main event time for the ecw title, according to the ranking system whomever is the top champ gets the main event spot i.e if smackdowns world champ is the top of the ranking system they get to main event, and have the royal rumble mean something, if the title shot is the main event of mania let it be the main event, i remember undertake winning the title at the rumble to face tista but got shoved out of the way in favour of raw that totally disrespected the rumble and the title shot.
DanOrient
03-16-2008, 06:54 PM
Also at WrestleMania it would be amazing to have as many of the superstars as possible enter the arena to their theme music being played live. E.g. Motorhead for Triple H, Finger Eleven for Kane.
Mighty NorCal
03-16-2008, 08:08 PM
Mighty NorCal, I have often thought about how I would run things if I was in control of the WWE and often wondered how people would take to my ideas.
I think you should take our ideas and decide what's good, bad or needs re-adjusting and then run your own little WWE production for us or even work with someone to help you.
It could make great reading and present you with an amazing challenge.
However I don't know how old or how busy you are so it may be a little too much lol
I am planning on going over the posts in some weeks, and condensing ideas to come up with something better overall at the end. I may throw idea up for discussion, and see what everyone thinks of the individual major ideas, to spurn on some more debate, then come up with the way we as a group would be presenting the WWE program. Probably two versions, one with a brand split, the other without.
There is a book this part of the website, but i dont get much into it. But I more than invite anyone who does frequent that portion of the site to take the WZ version of WWE, and do a "book this" with it.
soulfire31
03-19-2008, 09:32 PM
Where to start...Firstly keep the 3 brands however the one thing that may be multi branded would be the tag titles. Rename Smackdown to WCW making it more separate from Raw as well as keep ECW. As For titles WWE Raw will have the WWE Heavyweight Championship and the Intercontinental Title. ECW would have the ECW Heavyweight Championship and the Cruiserweight Championship. WCW Smackdown world have the WCW Heavyweight Championship and the U.S championship. The Tag Titles should be unified and can be defended on any show because spreading out the depth of the tag roster just completely ruins any decent tag division. Talent would need to be moved around to boost ratings on all shows as it has been proven that Batista and Edge can't carry smackdown on their own. as far as roster changes i would go with the following...
WWE Raw
Triple HHH
Randy Orton
Ken Kennedy
Big Show
Chuck Palumbo
Kane
Shawn Michaels
Carlito
Shelton Benjamin
Kofi Kingston
D.H. Smith
John Morrison
ECW
Tommy Dreamer
Stevie Richards
Balls Mahoney
C.M. Punk
Chavo Guerrero
Jeff Hardy
Gregory Helms
Charlie Haas
Kenny Dykstra
Jimmy Wang Yang
Jamie Noble
Shannon Moore
Paul London
Brian Kendrick
Colin Delaney
Nunzio
Super Crazy
Funaki
WCW Smackdown
Edge
Batista
Chris Jericho
The Undertaker
John Cena(Heel)
JBL
Umaga
M.V.P.
Matt Hardy
Elijah Burke(possible stay in ECW for a while)
The Miz
Kevin Thorne
Cody Rhodes
Santino Marella
Tag Teams
Deuce and Domino
Highlanders
Cade and Murdock
Edgeheads
The Naturals
as well as any combination as the tag titles will be tri-branded
The remaining members of the current rosters would remain the same with the exception of Big Daddy V and Mark Henry who i would give there pink slips too
i would also think of starting Ron Killings and Chris Harris in ECW and then moving them later on unless a second hour can be bid for it
sub619
03-20-2008, 07:46 PM
Ok heres mine.
First i would swap FCW and ECW making ECW eastern championship wrestling again and make it a developmental territory and FCW would take a TV spot renaming itself something corny like, idk, freedom championship wrestling or, fantastic championship wrestling and it would be on a basic TV channel so people without cable can still view our product! I would also ditch the draft but keep the rosters the same and if theres ever a switch the superstar switching would show up and get a push on the new show. heres how i would run the shows and PPVs
RAW - i wouldnt want to mess with it too much, its the #1 show right now and i just couldnt mess that up
Smackdown - I would switch the roster up a little giving it more popular guys and give the tag titles to FCW but bring back the crusierweight title
FCW - 2 titles, FCW title and FCW (formerly WWE) tag titles. FCW wouldnt act like its a WWE brand, it would act like its own federation bashing the WWE from time to time
PPVs
January - Royal Rumble - keep it the same
Febuary - NWO - both an elimination chamber match AND a HITC match, the winners would go on to face eachother at WM
March - Whiplash - a PPV leading up to WM also FCW will play a big part in it by having their superstars fight against Smackdown and RAW superstars
April - Wrestlemania AND Backlash - WM will be great, keep the celebrities and raise the stakes, instead of triple threat main events how about Xtreme rules title matches or something better
and backlash will play as a mini wrestlemania, keep the celebrities though
May - Judgment day - end the feuds, make more feuds and leave the fans waiting to see what happens next, i mean end the PPV with a heel turn or something
June - Heatwave - kick off the summer with a Whiplash type PPV and have a traditional battle royal with a title on the line
July - GAB - no comment
August - Summerslam - Once again the WM of the summer, starting feuds and raising the stakes once again
September - Unforgiven - a really dark and unknown PPV with little knowledge for the fans, big suprise debut and perhaps a heel turn
October - Halloween Hell - Halloween havoc with a hell in the cell main event
November - no ppv, just let the shows leave the fans hanging
December - New years bash - GAB only with a new years theme, i would hold it on new years eve and have the countdown right there followed by a big debut
Titles
heres a list of the titles i would have
for raw: WWE title, TV title, tag team title, womens title
for smackdown: WHT, US title and cruiserweight title
for FCW: FCW title and FCW tag titles (i said it earlier)
so there you have it folks! my WWE feel free to reply to me in fact i would love it if you did i bet i made some crappy mistakes so....
W13rd0W
03-21-2008, 08:57 PM
How whould i go from here ?
Hmm...First of all the roster looks balanced as it is now , of course except ECW , where they don't have anybody except Punk who can go as a mid-upper card to RAW/SD.
PPV's look decent , i would only go with a PPV where it would be a king-of-the-ring type of match , though this one for tag-teams only.This way i can have future alliences made and broken so a few storylines could be gotten from here if problems.
So let's go...So far we have Orton as WWE champ , Edge as SD! champ and Chavo as ECW champ.
March - At WM i'll go with the matches already announced , i'll have
RAW : Orton retain his title ( though i'm not a fan of his ) , and have him feud with Triple H while Cena makes another movie.
SD! : Undertakers wins the title after a hard battle and a couple of interventions from the Edgeheads and Vickie.
ECW : Let's go with Kane win the title as this is the most probable option.
April - Backlash
RAW : Orton vs Triple H in some sort of a No DQ fight.
Triple H gets the title after some help from Michaels leading to a rebirth of DX.
SD! : Undertaker vs Edge
Probably the last help Edge will get from Vickie , his rematch against Taker.He loses again , he breaks the sharade with Vickie and we'll have a couple of weeks of SD! where Vickie puts the big names against Edge.
ECW! : New ECW manager....Mr.Kennedy...Kennedy ... Probably to big of a name for ECW , but that's the start of the rebirth.Let's just give a scenario where Vince has some sort of accident and is in a comma , or heck why not on vacation . He gives Raw to Stephanie , SD! to Shane , and of course ECW , to his illegitimate son , Kennedy .
Also have the US title defended here ( won't keep count of who's champ)
May - Get rid of Judgement day as i see it just a boring PPV lately. Maybe throw it later in the year. Get the tag team KOTR tournament i was thinking about . Winner team of the tournament gets into a triple threat match against the Champ in either RAW/SD!/ECW .
As DX should be in this tournament , maybe Y2J cashing in the MITB and taking the title would be a good choice here .
We'd have 8 teams here so 7 tag matches , maybe some sort of gimmick matches so it won't get boring , though as One Night Stand is next , i think fans can do without the gimmicks for one show.
I see teams like :
-Raw : DX , London & Kendrick , Edge & Orton
-SD! : Kane & Taker(?) , Khali & Umaga , Hardys
- ECW : Kennedy & Big Show , Big Daddy V & Mark Henry
(?) Team of champs , ECW & SD! , probably not a good ideea , but again they can use the "a chance to become undisputed champions" line.
So probably the most logical thing to do is give DX the win , after a final with the Hardys or the Rated RKO.Kennedy & Big Show get to the Semis so we can see the ECW isn't down to it's knees.
Also have the IC and US title defended at this PPV .
June - One Night Stand
Raw : Y2J vs Triple H vs Michaels
Y2J retains after a battle where he is seen down and out , but Michaels and Triple H end up screwing over each other and Y2J wins.
SD! : Taker vs Khali in some sort of cage match , maybe even Punjabi Prison.Of course Taker retains
ECW : Monster Mash for the ECW : Kane (c) vs Big Daddy V vs Umaga vs Mark Henry
Give the championship to Mark Henry whould be a good change , but i think Kane should hold the title a little more.
Have JBL vs Kennedy in some sort of match where if JBL loses he's drafted to ECW , which happens.
Also a women's championship match and another filler should be enough action for this PPV.
June - Vengeance
Well don't know how to do this one...Probably a PPV to set up the ones to come ..
I see Cena finishing his movie by now , and probably an angle where Cena returns to take on Orton , after he injured him at WM24 seems a good angle for a PPV named Vengeance.
Also a match with Triple H vs Michaels seems good as both want revenge after they screwed each other at ONS
As the champs shouldn't have the night off , maybe there should be thrown an Champion of champions match to have all WWE champs ( except tag teams and womens ) fight for some sort of reason .
Have the tag teams defended here and the womens champs and those should be the 6 matches for this PPV.
July - Great American Bash
RAW : Y2J vs Cena vs Triple H.
I know , again a triple threat , but it's the best way i see it.Y2J loses the title , give the title to Triple H , and have the Triple H vs Cena match they wanted at WM. They both come after a win at Vengeance so it seems the best choice in my books.Maybe make it an elimination match to make it different .
SD! : Taker vs Umaga as they've said they were going with this at for Summerslam
Best way to end this is probably count-out after Umaga destroys Taker outside the ring , so they have something to build up to Summerslam
ECW : Kane vs JBL . Best place for the american hero JBL to win a title , and i don't see him winning any other than ECW .
August - Summerslam
RAW : Cena vs Triple H
Triple H wins funny so he can turn heel and Cena will look good when he finally beats him.
SD! : Taker vs Umaga should end somehow in Taker retaining but injuring himself so he'll have to fogive up the title and have his usual mind games 2 PPVs later.
ECW : JBL vs Big Show . JBL retains .
September - Unforgiven
RAW : Again Cena vs Triple H in some sort of gimmick match this time , probably Hell in a Cell , he wins again with some help from Stephanie which in case you forgot is Manager of RAW , so she'll turn into some sort of Vickie Guerrero.
SD! : Elimination Chamber with Umaga , MVP , Finlay , Edge , Orton.Best option for champ for the period of the year would be Orton i believe who should get some credibility as a champ after winning against those guys.
ECW : JBL vs Big Show vs Kane vs Khali in a Fatal Four Way match for the ECW championship where JBL retains .
October - No Mercy
RAW : Finally Cena beats Triple H for the title and he's seen as a hero .
SD! : Orton vs Edge , Orton retains .
ECW! : no match
Umaga vs someone , with Undertaker starting the mind games
Also have some sort of match to determine the contender for the No Mercy PPV #1 contender for RAW
October - Cyber Sunday
Doesn't matter , fans decide , no title will change hands anyway .Undertaker's mind games finally end when he defeats Umaga . Probably make it fans choice between Casket , Inferno and Burried Alive match .
November - Survivor Series
Main Event is a 3 vs 3 vs 3 Survivor series elimination match with all 3 brands fighting for Draft picks , last one standing gets 2 picks ( one from each other brand ) , second one gets 1 picks ( from brand that finishes in 3rd place ) .
I see teams like , Big Show/JBL/Kane (ECW ) vs Y2J/Hardy/Michaels (RAW) vs Undertaker/Batista/Edge (SD!)
Another option where they can change guys that have been in their title period for long and can't produce anything new...
Also titles can be in play but no champ changes.
December - Armaggedon
Nothing big to change .
January - Royal Rumble
Have Jeff Hardy win the damn thing and have a NWO build up the way WM23 was build up.
WM25 card IMO :
Raw : -Jeff Hardy vs John Cena ( with Hardy finally winning something big )
SD! : -Orton vs Taker again ( with Taker having someone worthy to loose the streak to )
General Manager superiority match ( to become what Vince is now ) : Triple H vs Batista vs Big Show
IC : MVP vs Y2J
MITB (6 men ) : JBL vs Kane vs Matt Hardy vs Michaels vs Carlito vs Shelton Benjamin
US : Rey Mysterio vs Edge
Monster vs Monster : Umaga vs Khali ( everybody thought they will see this at WM23 )
Piss break : Women's Championship match .
King Paul The Awesome
03-26-2008, 10:06 AM
Here is what I would do.
TV Shows
Monday - Raw Is War (Live) 2 & a half hours
Thursday - Smackdown (Live) 2 & a half hours
Friday - Velocity (Taped) 1 hour
Sunday - Heat (Taped) 1 hour
Titles
WWE CHAMPIONSHIP
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP
TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP
TELEVISION CHAMPIONSHIP
HARDCORE CHAMPIONSHIP
CRUSIERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
WOMEN'S CHAMPIONSHIP
PPV's
January - Royal Rumble
February - No Way Out
March - WrestleMania
April - Backlash
May - Badd Blood
June - King Of The Ring
July - Great American Bash
August - SummerSlam
September - Unforgiven
October - Halloween Havoc
November - Survivor Series
December - Armageddon
The company would be built primarily around Randy Orton and John Cena, hopefully pushing them both in the same way that Stone Cold and The Rock were pushed.
Closely behind would be Y2J, Triple H, Mr Kennedy, Batista and Edge (some of these could also be I.C. title contenders).
The I.C. title would be contested by HBK (he is winding down his career), Mr Kennedy, Y2J, MVP, JBL, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy and Rey Mysterio.
The T.V. title could have the I.C. title contenders plus guys like Carlito, Santino, Shelton Benjamin, Finlay, Cody Rhodes plus others.
Also, I would have Kane turn heel, become dominant again and have a title reign, which would include defeating The Undertaker clean.
Heat and Velocity would be an hour of pure wrestling, no recaps whatsoever. The matches would most likely be T.V. Title, Tag Title, Cruiserweight Title matches (not to say that they would not be on Raw or Smackdown) and perhaps even the odd I.C. title matches. These matches would be hyped up on Raw and Smackdown and title changes would happen.
Just my thoughts.
D-Squared
03-26-2008, 06:27 PM
Okay!
I would firstly start another Invasion type angle with ECW! At the next PPV ECW and SmackDown would face off with ECW winning and 'Take Over' SmackDown, they would then move on to conquer RAW at the following PPV but would fail meaning that ECW and SmackDown superstars would combine and stay on Friday Nights and stay named SmackDown! - ECW on Sci-Fi would dis-continue.
There would then be a Draft to evenly seperate the talent between the two brands. Most notably Edge and Batista would move to RAW and John Cena and Randy Orton would move to SD!
Talent surplus to requirements: Hawkins + Ryder, Khali and Mike Knox to name a few would be released.
TITLES/SHOWS
(Champions are who i see as representing the respective division)
RAW:
WWE Championship
- Edge - Would get his chance to reign as WWE's number one guy on the A Show and would hold the title throughout the year during feuds with HBK and Batista before eventually starting a long feud with The Game
Intercontinental Championship
- Mr. Kennedy - After all his mis-haps Kennedy would get a long reign with the IC title before moving onto cash in the MITB Contract on the SD brand.
World Tag Team Championship
- The Highlanders - After nearly two years in the WWE The Highlanders would finally get thier chance at the gold.
WWE Womens Championship
- Mickie James - By far the best female Wrestler (not diva - "eye candy" would be limited and more emphasis on the wrestling) A James/Victoria feud would be set up.
SMACKDOWN!
World Heavyweight Championship
- Undertaker. [see Huge Storylines]
WWE United States Championship
- Shelton Benjamin - The Gold Standard would be given a decent run with the gold fending off the likes off Matt Hardy, and CM Punk
WWE Tag Team Championship
- Jesse and Festus - absolutley love this team and also their current feud with Miz and Morrison so this would continue with me in charge.
Cruiserweight Championship
- Gregory Helms would be my lead man for the Cruiser division, after his return from injury he would capture the vacant title before moving onto the US Division
*More emphasis would be placed on both Tag Titles and Cruiserweight title.
HUGE STORYLINES
I have always felt that Kane was at his best whilst wearing his mask. Therefore after a lenghty feud with Mark Henry would culminate in an Inferno Match at a Big Four PPV. Kane would end up buring his face and be out of action for 4-6 months to sell the damage. He would return a heel and in the mask, he would cost Taker the World Title - blaming him for everything that has happened. Taker and Kane wold then go onto feud over the next couple of months.
Eric Bischoff would be brought back as GM of RAW and Stephanie McMahon would return as GM of SmackDown after the ECW Invasion angle ends.
A British stable would be created on RAW - similar to the Un-Americans from WWE and Team Canada from TNA - Featuring leaders: William Regal and Dave Taylor and protoge's Drew McIntrye, Paul Burchill and The Highlanders would be included too. They would gain measurable success before Burchill and McIntrye break away from the stable and feud with The Highlanders over the Tag titles.
I would also make huge efforts to bring Christian Cage back to WWE. He would return unannounced during a match involving Edge and the two would then feud in TLC matches for a lenghty time.
A One Hour, weekly show - Heat - would run feturing talent from both brands who fail to make it to the main shows.
PPV's
Pay per Views would remain as they are now - One a Month and feature matches from both brands.
Cyber Sunday would be scrapped and moved to a 3 Hour RAW Spectacular fetureing stars from both brands.
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