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Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 06:10 AM
That The Miz won Tough Enough. Michael Cole told me this. And it's his job to be right.

Capt. Charisma
03-01-2008, 06:15 AM
He might be, did anyone actualy watch Tough Enough?

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 06:19 AM
Yeah it was on Smackdown so I had no choice.

Hillman
03-01-2008, 06:27 AM
If I remember correctly, Wikipedia said that Miz came in 2nd place. However, the dude who won first is still nowhere

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 06:38 AM
Daniel Puder is in ROH. Or he was last time I heard.

Capt. Charisma
03-01-2008, 06:42 AM
Yea Puder is half decent but I don't think WWE liked him.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 06:48 AM
'Cus he sucks and he made Angle look like shit.

Capt. Charisma
03-01-2008, 06:56 AM
Probably why they are saying Miz won tough enough, Puder would have been better than the Miz though. Did Angle shoot on Puder after there match or was it Angle just been a heel.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 07:04 AM
Angle challenged any of the TE contetstants to a wrestling match )or something). Puder almost made Angle tap for real. A ref had to make a quick count so Angle didn't look weak. I think there was a skirmish backstage with Angle saying Puder was being disrespectful. Even though Angle made an open challenge.

Uncle Sam
03-01-2008, 07:09 AM
Wasn't in scripted though? I mean, it was hardly like Puder was going to beat Angle. Unprofessional, IMO.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 07:10 AM
Nah it wasn't scripted. It was Angle being a dick. Before Angle being a dick was routine.

Capt. Charisma
03-01-2008, 07:18 AM
Thats Angles biggest problem he's almost as bad as Bret Hart with his attitude.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 07:20 AM
I think Bret has an overinflated opinion of himself. I just think Angle has had too many chair shots. He's my pick for next wrestler suicide.

Capt. Charisma
03-01-2008, 07:43 AM
Angle is a more entertaining wrestler than Hart though IMO.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 07:47 AM
I agree. Hart is great. But mic wise I was only intrested in him in the Hart Foundation, late 80's & 90's version.

Angle is more rounded. He can do anything. This isn't a knock on Bret, but he couldn't do comedy. And I'm sure comedy is one of the hardest things to do.

Uncle Sam
03-01-2008, 08:43 AM
I thought Angle was well within his rights to be pissed off - this kid was trying to make a name for himself by embarrassing him on international television.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 08:45 AM
I don't think he tried to embarrass him. Kurt challenged him, and Puder got the better of him. If Kurt hadn't been so cocky he probably wouldn't have got caught. Also bear in mind that Tough Enough 2004 was more like Gladiators and not actual wrestling. Puder probably didn't know better.

Uncle Sam
03-01-2008, 08:51 AM
Oh, so it was an actual fight then? I wasn't paying an awful lot of attention during 2004.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 08:54 AM
It wasn't a fight as such. More wrestling. Puder just got the better of him.

Uncle Sam
03-01-2008, 08:57 AM
Tell no one.

Y 2 Jake
03-01-2008, 08:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoeO13L2V4c

chance
03-01-2008, 09:46 AM
no daniel puder won the miz came in 2nd place if michael cole told you this then michael cole is an idiot.

DJ
03-01-2008, 10:19 AM
Last time I heard of Puder he was getting the shit booed out of him in ROH.He lasted 2 shows.

TM
03-01-2008, 04:15 PM
Well if it was a MMA fight, Puder would have won, but since it was a WWE match, stay off your back. Im sure if it wasn't scripted, then it was meant to be a professional wrestling type match, not an MMA type match. so Kurt Angle did win while Puder was looking him in for the submission.