More Disrespected Title - IC or Tag?

[IC25]

The news has hit and been quoted on these boards a few times already. With Jeff Hardy in the MITB match at Wrestlemania, the Intercontinental Title will not be defended for the 6th consecutive Wrestlemania. Think of that in context of the six years prior:

Wrestlemania 18 - Rob Van Dam over William Regal for the title
Wrestlemania 17 - Chris Jericho over William Regal to retain
Wrestlemania 2K - Jericho vs Angle vs Benoit, IC / Euro Titles
Wrestlemania 15 - Road Dogg over Shamrock, Venis, Golddust
Wrestlemania 14 - The Rock over Shamrock, DQ
Wrestlemania 13 - Rocky Maivia over The Sultan

Ok, now let's look at the 6 years since:

Wrestlemania 24 - No Title Defense (Jeff Hardy, champ, MITB)
Wrestlemania 23 - No Title Defense (Jeff Hardy, champ, MITB)
Wrestlemania 22 - No Title Defense (Shelton Benjamin, champ, MITB)
Wrestlemania 21 - No Title Defense (Shelton Benjamin, champ, MITB)
Wrestlemania 20 - No Title Defense (Randy Orton, champ, handicap match)
Wrestlemania 19 - Title Inactive

That's just Wrestlemania. Then take into account the title's relative obscurity overall for the last couple years.

NOW - the Tag Team Titles. I am talking about the RAW World Titles:

In 2005, the titles were held by 5 different teams: Conway & Grenier, Tajiri & Regal, Hurricane & Rosey, Cade & Murdoch, Show & Kane. 3 of those 5 teams were actualy, legit tag teams with only Show & Kane and Tajiri & Regal being "thrown together.

In 2006, the titles were held by 3 teams. The Spirit Squad, Flair & Piper, and Rated RKO. This is where things went south. The Spirit Squad was a 5 man team, not an actual tag team. Flair and Piper were a Cyber Sunday novelty. Rated RKO were given the belts to establish their feud with DX and their alliance as top heels. I call 2006 "The Death of the Tag Division."

In 2007, we are back to 5 different teams (one with 2 reigns) as Shawn Michaels and John Cena, The Hardyz, Cade & Murdoch (x2), Kendrick and London, and now Rhodes & Holly held the belts. The number of title reigns? Few and far between. Pay Per View bookings? Limited at best. Storyline buildup? HA!

So I ask you, loyal posters, over the last 3-5 years, which championship has been disrespected MORE? The Intercontinental Championship or the World Tag Team Championship?

[Uncle Sam]

Well, they've both been deeply disrespected, let's get that out of the way first. I think everyone will agree with that. But I will go out on a limb and say it's the tag titles which have been disrespected more. Some may claim otherwise, but being used as a vehicle for people bigger than the actual division - Rated RKO, Cena/HBK - then being dropped back into obscurity is no way to respect the titles, it just makes the legitimate competitors, i.e. not the main event drop-in variety, look weak and thus the tag division as a whole, not to mention the teams suck.

The mid-card of the WWE is actually, in my opinion, one of it's strong points. Jeff Hardy may be a spot monkey, and he may even refuse to acknowledge the fact that he's intercontinental champion, but he gets airtime and isn't some obscure wrestler. The same goes for guys like Shelton Benjamin, and Chris Benoit and MVP is you care to apply it to SmackDown's US title. The biggest thing that disrespects the title is that it isn't even taken into consideration when he faces the world champion - something completely alien to the world of Warrior/Hogan.

[IrishEnglishman24]

gotta agree with sam. the tag titles haven't been about feuds between legit tag teams for a long time and i think having random superstars compete together for either the purpose of a feud (michaels/cena), losing a poll (show/kane even though they weren't bad as a team), or as a means to justify dx teaming (RKO).
add that to the method used to remove main-event champions usually involves some sort of in-fighting or run in and you castrate the new champions of any shred of achievement.

IC - ok, it's been thrown about a lot in recent years and not defended at WM which is a shame because i remember all of those being strong matches, but it's still a title given to respected names and talented up-and-comers such as morrison and the milan miracle. i'd love to see it defended at mania, maybe by having hardy drop it to flair or have flair win it at wm.

but i think tag is more disrespected, purely because it's abused so much with non-legit tag teams and dropped cheaply. women's is still the most disrespected...but it's bn dead for a while

[klunderbunker]

Has to be the tag team titles. While the IC used to be an important title and more exciting to follow than the world title, the tag titles are a damn joke now. If I remember correctly, it's been how many weeks since we've even heard about the tag belts on Raw? At least with the IC title it's being used as a somewhat of a stepping stone, as the past few champions, John morrison, Umaga and Jeff Hardy, have all gained a lot of momentum with their respective runs with the title. When the IC title was dropped in i think 2002, it was missed as there was nothing for low-to-mid card wrestlers to go for and it just didn't work. If the tag titles were dropped, would anyone really miss them?

[NYSandman]

I did not vote in your poll because BOTH titles are spat on nowadays equally. There's no more hoopla about the Tag/IC, and it seems WWE just focuses on the big titles.

TT
Hart Foundation
Bulldogs
Demolition
Powers of Pain
Rockers

IC
Rick Rude
Honky Tonk Man
Warrior
Randy Savage
Ricky Steamboat

Just to name a few. Can't think right now. ;)

But, the above names should illustrate just who held these titles and what they meant.

Not defending these titles at WM is a slap in the face to the industry. I mean, shit, it's a four hour show! You can fit and IC and Tag match in!

Agree 100%, but cannot judge which is worse. BOTH are, to coin a phrase, dissed.

[Slim Pickns]

Up until your original post I would have said tag title in a heartbeat. Your Wrestlemania stats, however, pointed out how badly the IC Title has been booked in recent years. After thinking about it, I still have to say the tag titles. Mainly because I actually hate the way they are booked. I don't mean it upsets me a bit, I mean I actually feel angry and I want to hit things (but I never do).

Growing up tag team wrestling was my favorite. The WWF had amazing and interesting teams with endless possibilites for matches. The Hart Foundation could go up against the Rockers in the opening match of a PPV with Demolition defending the tag belts against the Brain Busters toward the end of the card. They could do 10 man (5 Tag Team) Survivor Series matches that people actually cared about. There would even be World Tag Team Title matches that were just as hyped as the WWF World Title match. Today, the Titles are lucky to be "showcased" in a dark match.

Remember when former World Tag Team Champions used to split up and be a big deal? When Rick Martel turned on Tito Santana at Wrestlemania, it was huge because they held the tag team titles together. Now, teams are thrown together and given the belts just for the fact that they will eventually break up.

The main problem is no one cares about any of the tag teams. You will never hear any sane person say "when I think of great tag teams I think of The Hart, Foundation, The British Bulldogs, and Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes." The Rockers (who weren't even technically tag champs) split up, and it was one of the biggest stories of that year for WWF. Now, how many of you would really care if Cade and Murdoch broke up? Not many, because the WWE hasn't invested in tag team wrestling which devalues the belts in the process.

[Yuffie_Kisaragi]

The sad thing is theres all the potential there for a great tag division again....

Cade and Murdoch could easily become the next APA or Dudley boys. ive the team something more than just been a pair of angry rednecks. The Dudleys had tables maybe give Cade and Murdoch a signature weapon/dirty attack to use. (Murdoch placing a trashcan over someones head and Cade hitting an elbow drop on it maybe?)

Cody Rhodes and D.H Smith: Screw Bob Holly...turn Cody and Smith heels, team them together and have them as a tag team version of Randy orton. Brash, arrogant and disrespectful.

London and Kendrick: Stop jobbing these two, stop limiting what they do in the ring and the WWE could have the 2nd coming of the Hardy Boyz.

Paul Burchill and Katie Lea: Push these as a tag team imo. Have Paul do all the work before finally tagging in Katie at the end to get the pinfall to humiliate their opponents. Pauls big enough and tough enough to make this work without making their opponents look weak. Plus itll be something new and intresting...a Brother/Sister tag team instead of another short 2month long tag pairing between two monster heels.


Thats not even mentioning teams like Deuce and Domino, jesse and Festus and the Highlanders...2 of which should stay as jobbers and the other (jesse and festus) will get a big boring after a few months. Add a few jobber teams and random pairings and youve got a good tag division. Also they should build actual feuds between the teams and have them defend the titles in table matchs, ladder matchs and TLC matchs.

[Y 2 Jake]

Well the tag titles have hardley ever been pushed properly. The tag division was stacked in the 80's, but there were only 3 or 4 teams that had a chance of getting the title. There were plenty of teams, but non were pushed very hard. You had the Harts, Bulldogs, Demolotition and maybe another team that waere heavily involved in the division. The rest made up numbers.

In the early and late 90's againg you had about three teams dominating.

Early 90's Gunns, Donnas & Godwins. Hardly a golden agae.

Late 90's E 7 C, Dudleyz & Hardyz. people remember the good matches, and they're right. Byt the division was shit. The divison was bulked up by other teams. Which got a look in on occasion, but were never as important as those three. And by the end of the 90's-early 00's you were sick of those feuds.

The IC title isn't disrespected ever. It's been held by some terrible wrestlers. And the reason it doesn't get on a Mania event is because it just isn't important. The IC division of today isn't the one that Owen Hart, Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels and so on competed in.

[HBK-aholic]

I used to be a huge fan of Tag Title matches, and I always loved watching how a team worked together, and worked for each other. Tag team matches were, to me, always about which team worked better together, and showcasing 4 pieces of talent instead of just 2. The tag team titles were also held in prestige, with every team aiming for it, and them champions being highly respected.

The range of matches was clear and interesting. Even just ordinary matches with tag teams were good, due to what we could see from a tag team that we couldn't see in just a singles match. It was always good to see two teams working it out together in the time they had allocated after a tag connection was made. They were always interesting and different.

One of the best tag teams in the WWE were the Dudley Boyz, and they are definately one of my favourites. They worked so well together and I can't name one match they had which was boring. They were just amazing whatever they did. I'd like to say there speciality were TLC matches but really, they were good at everything. However the TLC matches involving the Dudleys (along with E+C and the Hardyz) were to me some of the most interesting matches of that show. I'd often buy a PPV looking at the card, and the match I was most anticipating would be a tag team match.

Noe, onto the intercontinental. Holding this belt meant you were there, or very close to being at the top of the WWE. The intercontinental title was held by many greats and all the fans held these as great wrestlers, and who one day would own the championship belt and be top the company we love so much. Intercontinental matches would always be different from other normal matches due to what the belt actually meant.

The intercontinental title was held in huge prestige and was always known as the last stepping stone to the WWe championship. If a wrestler was offered this title they would know they were doing something right, and if they carried on the way they were, or improved, they could expect to see WWE championship gold within the space of a few years.

If you look at past Intercontinental championship winners, most will be going down in history as some of the best, and looking back at some of those matches it makes you think how much as changed. Now, the belt isn't much more than something a few mid-carders aim for, and it's connection to the WWE Championship is barely uphold or respected. It shows by the way it has been showcased at WM recently. Beforehand, the Intercontinental match made us think about what the Main Event would be this time next year, but now, our biggest event doesn't even use this title.

[Gus]

I don't see how you guys can say the IC title is being disrespected, It has, at Wrestlemania, but other than that, Jeff Hardy is adding prestige to it, and if you don't think so, you are all hippocrites, you say long title reigns add prestige, and IC25, Umaga was IC champ last year at 'Mania

I think the tag titles are beign disrespected more, out of the past year, we have had 4 credible teams hold the world tag titles,


Rated RKO
The Hardys
Cade and Murdoch
London/Kendrick


Other than that, they had HBK/Cena hold them to what? To try to add heat to the main event, it didn't work IMO, and i thought that was a waste of a title reign, and the Hardys could have had a good feud with Cade/Murdoch, but WWE screwed that up, and now we have them hold it until the Africa tour, where they lost them to Londrick, making Londrick the 2nd team (i think) to have held both Tag Titles, WWE and World, but now they have Cody and Holly, a random team, and all challengers have disappeared, and we can only hope that WWE does something with the RAW tag division, maybe merge it with SD! and keep it on SD! on all SD divas go to RAW, that would work IMO.

[bko]

Wrestlemania is about putting together a card that will as much fans/potenial fans as possible. If the holders of IC title/tag titles are not going to be in a match possibly because they can't draw in a title match, so be it. Jeff Hardy being in the MITB is where he should be, because people think of ladder match, they think of Jeff hardy. can you really see Holly & Cody drawing in a high profile match like wrestlemania?

[TWJC: The Beginning]

The reason they're not at WM is because of the brand split, you have too many more important feuds to get over, crowding wrestlemania with more than 9 matches normally ends up making the show nothing but a lot of generic 10 minute matches.

I don't think the titles have really been disrespected, it's not like they're putting the belt on shitty wrestlers, it's just that WWE is in a phase where they're building new stars, so the focus is on them and on the World Title.


The IC title isn't what it used to be and there is no tag division, if I had to chose, the tag division needs more because tag team wrestling is something all together different than 1 on 1 matches.


The IC title will always be around, and remember, it wasn't that long ago that Orton and Edge were making the IC title mean something again, it won't be long until someone else does the same.

It's just that at this point, WWE has all the guys that they want to make the new stars at the top, Orton, Edge, etc are all now in the World and WWE title pictures. So once they get more established, more future world champs will get the IC belt and make it prestigious again.

[Mr.Mvp]

well i think teh ic title is more disrespected becaus eat leats teh tag titles can be defended at a ppv. the last time the ic was defended ata ppv was summerslam and before that i think it was unforgiven 2006 ( could be wrong but i think i'm not). i mean how unfair is that two title matches at ppvs in two years. the ic is a great title ( sometimes i think it's better than teh whc) thats how good i think it is. teh world tag team titles tho they do get disrespected but not as much as the ic title

[TheOneBigWill]

I'm not exactly sure if you can consider either Championship disrespected simply because it isn't defended on the Wrestlemania stage. I think in order to define which Championship is more disrespected, you have to look within the divisions. You have to look at where the Championships are headed, who may be headed for them, and how they've vaulted Superstars into the future. So, with that.. a breakdown of each..

Intercontinental Championship: Its currently held by Jeff Hardy, and man thats quite possibly one of the biggest Superstars on the roster being cheered by the fans the most. I don't understand it, I doubt I'll agree with it, but listen to the pops he receives next to guys like Triple H. and John Cena. The fans are voicing who they want more.. and its a guy with rainbow colored hair.

With that said, the Intercontinental Championship is being held by someone who's future is starting to finally take off. The Championship's only downfall, is it isn't being defended like its meant to be, in the midcard divisional area. Its being held by a guy, who's trying to stay in the Main Event divisional area. So, with that being said.. the Championship has done what it was intended on doing, and it needs to be passed on to the next up-and-coming midcarder.

Overall, the Intercontinental Championship is a "gateway" Championship, mainly given to Superstars that are headed for the World Heavyweight Championship division.. or by new-comers, whom they wish to establish quickly. Because of that, it isn't needed to be defended on Wrestlemania, simply because Wrestlemania is a stage where everyone performing on that night, are all suppose to give 110%.. Championships do mean something on that night, but mainly only the Heavyweight ones.

Tag Team Championships: Now, this is the Championship I truly feel has been disrespected, simply because its not meant to be any type of "gateway" Championship. Its basically the Heavyweight Championship of its division, since its obviously the ONLY Championship of its division.

The Tag Team Championships are meant to be held by a Tag Team that deserve to be viewed as the current best in the business, the best in the company. However, when you have a lack-luster Tag Team roster, sometimes the current best on that roster, wouldn't even be more than a squash match to regular Tag Teams from the previous eras.

In my opinion, the W.W.E. has dropped the ball big time on the Tag Team division, because its allowed it to go to shit with slapped together Tag Teams, and stupid gimmicks for the ones they have.

Teams like Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes, Shannon Moore and Jimmy Yang, Carlito and Santino, Super Crazy and Hacksaw Jim Duggan.. they aren't teams, they're barely athletes anymore. So why bother even having them make up part of the division? Much less, in Holly/Rhodes case, carry it.

Overall.. I realize greatly that the Tag Team division in today's wrestling industry is not and never will be the Tag Team division from yester-year, or even the previous era. I just wish they'd get their head's out of their asses and bring the two Tag Team divisions together to be a multi-brand Championship.. so they can bring together all the teams, weed out the stupid ones, and push the legit ones.

[carbondioxide830]

i don't see it as a big deal that the ic title isnt gonna be defended for like the 100th time @ wrestlemania as i'm pretty used to seeing the ic champion take part in the money in the bank ladder match. i do think wwe should have jeff hardy defend the title more; i'm sure i'm wrong, but the last time i remember him defending the title was against carlito in the ladder match. one thing that's for sure is that who ever beats hardy for the title will have alot of credibility.

as for the tag titles, i think both sets of titles are a joke. they should unify the tag titles and have them defended on both brands since there really isn't a stacked tag division on either brand.

[Total Impact]

The Tag Team titles are more direspectful now, as I can't remember a meaningful thing about the Tag Team titles since the the titles were split. Tag Team wrestling in the WWE is dead as no storylines are ever done for tag team champions about the titles, plus the tag teams are not having the best matches in the world today, and there is not a tag team on Raw that has what it takes to be a great tag team like teams in the past, that is good ring ability that can get the crowd into matches night in and night out. No partner with good mic skills that can at least give the crowd some type of energy. The WWE had a chance to save the Tag Team division with Cryme Tyme, but they got fired. The Tag Team titles haven't mean't shit since the Un-Americans held the gold. The WWE doesn't care about Tag Team wrestling, if they did, we would see better development of tag teams, instead of bringing a team and put the gold on them have them on heat everyweek. I will give Smackdown is due and say Miz and Morrison kind of bring something to the table in tag team wrestling, but once they lose, it will be piss poor again.

The IC could be on the same level as I contend the title hasn't mean't nothing since Randy Orton held the title. I mean after Orton there hasn't been a champion that even comes close to be great in wrestling, by that I mean over with the crowd as champion and became a bigger star because of the holding the Belt. Shelton sucks on the mic, Carlito doesn't care in the ring, Umaga reigns were pointless, Ric Flair held the belt just to put something on his waist, Santino pulled a Rock, and Hardy never needed the belt in the first place.

Right now the WWE needs to look at taps of the Attitute Era & Begining Brand split. Build teams like The Hardys, Edge & Christian, Dudleys, N.O.A, Chuck and Billy, Too Cool, APA, Un-Americans, Los Guererros, Team Angle/WGTT. Build teams that can catch the eye of the crowd and get over big instead of a slight reaction like some teams get today.

For the IC belt, whatever you did for Randy ORton, do it to every guy that holds the belts.

But I will end it like I started it, that is Tag Team titles are the most disrespectful as Tag Team wrestling is dead. There is no tag team that everyone loves to hate and everyone hates that they love.

[Skullz Crack'Em]

I voted for the World Tag titles. The last time the World tag titles meant something was when they were defended on nearly every PPV, now they are only defended on RAW. When Rated RKO and HBK/Cena had the titles, that was the sign that WWE didn't give a crap about the tag titles anymore. Why give them to four guys who already established themselves as main eventers? That didn't make any sense when other REAL tag teams could of had the belts instead and help elevate them as a tag team. Cody Rhodes and Hardcore Holly are the tag champs now and it is debatable whether they are worthy of having those titles or not when RAW has Cade & Murdoch, The Highlanders, and Londrick, three teams who are more worthy IMO. But instead, WWE has a feud between two non-legit teams like Holly/Rhodes and Carlito/Santino, just like they did on SmackDown where Jesse and Festus is primed and ready for those WWE tag titles, but yet hasn't won them.

[bnn52]

I also voted for the tag team titles. I believe that the IC title has been used like it has been in the past, as a stepping stone for future main eventers. Umaga is constantly in a big match every pay per view lately, Morrison went on to be ECW champion (but now back to WWE tag champ) and Jeff Hardy is competing at a high level, almost there as a full time WWE title contender. I do agree in that the IC title should be defended more often, and change hands more often as well.

Now on to the tag team titles. Back in the day I used to love tag team wrestling. Even some of the teams that never held the tag titles were great. There were just great matches and there were alot of talented teams. Just to list a few.

Demolition
Hart Foundation
The Rockers
Power & Glory
The Killer Bees
Powers of Pain
Bulldogs
The Headshrinkers
The Quebeccers
The APA
The Brainbusters


Now today we are stuck with a bunch of lower mid carders thrown together because they cant think of anything else to do.There are a couple of good teams tody, Cade & Murdoch, Londrick. And a couple who have potential, Edgeheads, Deuce & Domino, but if they arent featured every week in a match they wont get over. And why did they get rid of Cryme Tyme, one of the best teams to come around in a while.

So the solution is to unify the two tag belts and package some of their up and coming talent to make the tag division bigger and more competitive, also did anyone else enjoy Shelton Benjamin and Elijah Burke together on ECW last night? I thought it was great and they would be a great team.

[Y 2 Jake]

I don't see how you guys can say the IC title is being disrespected, It has, at Wrestlemania, but other than that, Jeff Hardy is adding prestige to it, and if you don't think so, you are all hippocrites, you say long title reigns add prestige, and IC25, Umaga was IC champ last year at 'Mania


You are joking. Please son. Leave the WWE section and go back to the e-fed. That title is worthless. How in fact is Jeff Hardy adding prestige to it? By defending it on PPV? Err not so far. By defending it on Raw? Not frequently. It's nothing. Why he's holding it I don't know. HBK has been in a mid card feud with Kennedy for a few months, why didn't he get a run then drop it to Kennedy? The title might be beneath him, but Kennedy winning the title off HBK would have done wonders for him.

As for Umaga. Again he didn't defend that belt on PPV until Sunner Slam I believe. Top of my head wasn't it defended just three times on PPV in 2007? At Vengeance, NYR & Summer Slam. How many times were the tag titles (Both), or US, or ECW titles defended.

Hardy has added nothing to that title. Long title reigns only work if you defend the belt.

[Taker316]

I'd have to say the tag team titles too. I mean to me, its completely disrespectful to all the great tag teams throughout the ages. Like the road warriors, Hardy boyz, Dudley's, Hart foundation and so on. But now they seem to be givin it to the stupidest unworthy people ever... i mean lets see. Smackdown Miz n Morrison(though they're ECW superstars) have the tag titles... before them who was it?? oh yeah MVP and Matt hardy who were both at the time fighting for the US championship. And at one time, Undertaker and Batista, who were fighting for the WORLD heavyweight championship.

I think they reallllly need Cryme Tyme back. Just think the feuds they could of had with say jessie n festus, cade n murdoch and the select few tag teams that are actually half assed nowadays.. which isnt many.

Now, the IC title. Honestly, if i never watched wrestling and say, only read the results and everything on here/the internet i deffinetely would have NO idea that he's the IC champion. No mention of it ever, at all. I mean... its like the IC championship means absolutely nothing anymore, he's skyrocketing up to main event status and the IC championship is nowhere to be found...To this point i honestly wouldnt be surprised if he didnt even bring the IC belt out and if he didnt, would anyone even notice lol..... its horrible at least the US belt is being well defended (well, at least when Matt Hardy gets back) it'll bring back the value majorly to that title. Just hope they can do the same with the IC title.

[thecruiser]

I don't understand your reasoning. The Intercontinental Championship, in my eyes, is the third top belt (with WWE Championship first, World Heavyweight second, and IC close behind WHC, with ECW World following, WWE Tag Team, World Tag Team, and US Championship). The IC title isn't being "disrespected" in any way. Just because it isn't defended at Pay-Per-Views doesn't mean it loses its prestige. I think it's regarded as the "belt of future champions". If you hold or have held the Intercontinental Championship in the WWE, you have a good shot at climbing to the main event. While the World Tag Team title is a different story, I don't think it's as bad as you make it out to be. Tag teams aren't draws. They are there for filler. That's why these belts aren't defended at Pay-Per-Views, because nobody wants to pay to see Rhodes and Holly fight some no-name tag team. In the attitude era, where tag teams flew threw the air and smashed through tables, people wanted to see them and see the titles get defended. Now, tag teams are boring.

[PhoenixFan89]

i said ic...jeff may be a main eventer now but i still would like to see it defended once in awhile, add to the fact he doesnt even come out with it sometimes, and that he often just flings it at the ref before his match start (its like he doesnt care about the title) and thats saying alot imho.

The tag titles are something different you have some great talent there but the wwe doesnt even focus on that division which is sad.

You can even add in the us title, when was the last time that thing has been defended?? i know they are waiting for matt to get healthy but they could atleast have mvp defend the thing once in awhile.

[Siege27]

Looking at the polls and replies on this thread, it seems theres a split between the two.
I think that both titles to a certain extent have been disrespected, but not totally. The World Tag titles are with Rhodes and Holly who arent even a legit. tag team. I guess thats due to the lack of good talent on Raw, but Raw still has Londrick, Santino/Carlito, Cade/Murdoch, etc.
But there just arent enough good tag teams in the WWE anymore, partly due to the fact that there isnt any emphasis on those titles by Vince. So with the lacklustre tag teams, I think the main thing that is needed in the short term is really good storylines.

Neither is the IC title for that matter. Ok, understandably Jeff Hardy has it as he is a legit. holder, but he is more or less main event material now, so he really doesnt need it.
But I do think that Jeff holding on to the title for the time being is a good thing, even if it doesnt get defended. I say this because when he eventually does lose the title, the wrestler to beat Jeff would be seen as someone great. In that way, it should help that wrestler on using the belt as a 'stepping stone' to better things. Maybe someone like Carlito, i dunno.
that said, Hardy still should defend the title now and then to add a bit of variety on the show.

just a thought.

[laya_4life]

i had to go with the tag titles...seriously it's hard to remember who the tag champs are somtimes..let alone even care. the talent pool is so sallow right now in the wwe its depressing. which affects the tag title scene more than the mid card singles. I think they dont pay enough attention to developing tag teams...and giving them these lame gimicks like the highlanders, and duece and domino, and cryme time. no one is gonna care about those characters. and the way they push them is horrible also. they come in have a 3 week winning streak, win the titles, dont get over, drop the titles, then job to make shift teams like hbk and cena, or who ever. it also doesn't help the tag team divison when you have a gauntlet match and have 5 teams get beat by dx in 15 minutes. i think they gonna need to chill with the gimicks for a while, develop a couple teams and then bring them uo as legit teams. that actually wrestle everyweek, and here's a thought actually do some tag team moves. the closest thing they had was london and kendrick.

now what they have done to the ic and us titles is simply disgusting. really, whats the point of having hardy and mvp hold the titles for so long and not have a fued with anyone of them. and one fued in 8 months doesnt count. hardy doesn't need the belt, he's over..but he wont get any higher than where he is now. mvp could possibly be a maineventer by now if they used his title reign the right way. these belts are supposed to be stepping stones to the big gold i.e. rock, scsa, hhh, hbk, bret hart, ultimate warrior, kurt angle,
lexluger, sting, goldberg, ddp
anyway ive typed more than enough

[Enigmania]

And at one time, Undertaker and Batista, who were fighting for the WORLD heavyweight championship.


Got your info wrong there - Cena and HBK held the belts during there world title fued not Batista and Taker. Batista: Ric Flair (2) and Rey Mysterio. Taker: The Rock, Big Show, Kane (2)

Tag Titles have meant nothing now Rhodes/Holly have them and Miz/Morrison. They're teams chucked together with no chemistry or even a history with each other.

Bring in more tag teams WWE.

Bring BACK CRYME TYME!!

[a7xoff]

Both titles are pretty well disrespected by WWE. Hardy is the intercontinental champ. When was the last time he defended it? Was it that ladder match against Carlito like two months ago. If your going to have someone hold a belt.... Here's a concept... Make them defend the damn thing. There are plenty of people for Jeff to feud with for the IC title, but WWE just does not seem to care for it.
The tag titles on both Raw and SD! are the most disrespected titles in the industry aside mabey from the Women's title, but I'm not getting into that now. Anyway, the tag titles are virtually unused nowadays. I actually forgot who the champs were until we saw them for the first time in weeks this past monday. WWE has had numerous chances to work on reviving the tag team division, but has not. The tag titles have really become filler titles, used only when they need to kill off ten or so minutes of a show. WWE has really dropped the ball with they're tag team division. What I mean by that is there are absolutley no buildups to anything. The Rednecks randomly lost to Rhodes and Holly. Then before one of them got injured the Highlanders wanted a shot that never came. Cryme Tyme won a title shot over a year and a half ago that they were never able to cash in on. WWE tag team titles, most disrespected and should probably be one of the more respected titles in the buisness...

[thejap]

I'd say the most disrespected title are the world tag titles...Jeff hardy is cool and IC title though he never defends it, but the world teag champs are holley and code rhodes, we could have a lot better teams imo like
1. Hardyz
2. DX
3. Rated RKO
4. London & Kendrick
5. Deuce & Domino
6. New Bread...i would say originals too but most of them left (I don't blame them)

[mark4life]

It's hard to discuss about the state of titles in the WWE. They seem just to be a novelty trophy. It's looks pretty on the card, but when it's not pushed or placed with some kind of passion like it were 5-10 years ago, I would so mark out for "title" match. It just seems to be a filler now on the shows. So if you ask me what titles are more disrespected, it's a respectable tie unfortunately.

[HBK-aholic]

1. Hardyz

The Hardys were a great tag team; they worked together so well, and maybe in the future they will do again. But at the moment, the WWe has different paths for them both. It looks as if Jeff is even getting ready to have a world title reign. And because f the way the WWE views the Tag Titles atm, they won't take him away from the big thing of the WWE title, to put him into the tag division which they don't think of anyway. So really, it's a circle they're stuck in.

2. DX

DX are great together, but once again, they are pushing Shawn and HHH in different ways. It also looks as if HHH is going to become champion again, due to him being in the triple threat at Mania. Whereas Shawnis about to end Flairs career, but I don't know what they have planned for him next. Maybe a feud with Jeff Hardy, as you could see the beginning of one before.


3. Rated RKO

I think they were a good tag team. They worked well together, but I don't think it was ever to stay. They had a good feud with DX, but that was pretty much the end of it. Edge is so much better as a singles competitor, and is great at doing his job for the fans. They won't put 2 of their biggest draws into a smaller division.

All in all, some good teams here, but there is so much going on, that WWE need to think about tag teams right from the beginning, they need to see people work together before throwing them into a team, they need to find people who suit, and they need to debut them as a team. so we see this from the beginning, instead of having opinions on both separately. If, after the team breaks up, they work well together separately, well it shows what good wrestlers they are.

[Downward Spiral]

I'm going to have to go with the Intercontinental Title as the belt that has been completely shafted to the lower platforms of the WWE's priority list, and basically just undervalued to the point where you can call it utterly disrespected.

The main reason for this, is that over the years, the belt has rarely been used as a stepping-stone for mid card guys, nor has it been utilised as a way to garner interest for the mid card as it should be. The focus since about 2005, has been completely on the top belt, leaving the IC belt with no fuel to help get the champions and contenders over. Juxtapose this with the fact that there has probably been close to no wrestlers for about 4 years, that have been focused only on winning the championship, and not just some feud with the champion, where the belt is used meaninglessly to illustrate that the two actually have something to fight over, when this isn’t the case, and you’ve got a perfect scenario to suggest that this belt means nothing, and when your own product is blatantly suggesting that this belt means nothing, you can be sure as hell that the fans won’t care for it either.

Right now, I think the biggest disgrace is that, not only is the belt not being defended as it should be, it is just being stuck on Main-Event calibre guys for the sole point of being able to call them a champion. Case and Point, Jeff Hardy and Umaga. This is not helping them get over any more, and so the reason for placing the belt on them is not evident, but if I was to take a (somewhat educated) guess, I would say that the WWE does not have any other ideas other than to place them on people and hope that the fans forget about the belt, or for some reason think that the belt means more if top guys have it (we aren't stupid in that way, I'd hope). Putting the belt on guys who won’t defend it, and don’t need it, completely devalues a formerly great and sought-after title.

How to fix this? The first step, is to actually build a clear-cut midcard division. Right now, 95% of the Raw roster is just floating aimlessly around. Some prime examples of this are: Santino, Carlito, Burchill, Snitsky and even guys like Kennedy and Jericho (who they’ve completely left in the cold when they’ve had a main-even ready superstar in him). Solution? Build feuds around the IC belt (feuds between champion and challenger, and feuds between several wrestlers vying for the next title shot) with these guys. Santino and Carlito? The WWE just threw these two together and called them a tag team when they should be both individually trying to reach contendership for the IC title. Burchill? Give him time and get him in the ring against some credible opponents, and he’s midcard material that they can use. Snitsky? He’s the monster that would fit effectively in the midcard. Use him that way. And finally, Kennedy and Jericho, two guys that deserve higher statuses, but aren’t getting it. The WWE obviously aren’t going to completely push them into the upper echelons of the Raw roster right now, and seeing as they are doing very little, give them a go with the belt. The IWC would basically drool over the concept of a Kennedy/Jericho feud, but, instead of using the IC belt as a side-issue to the feud, make it the focal point, the reason as to why these two are fighting each other. Basically, you have the challengers-in-waiting, and the two currently fighting over the title. When guys actually want to go for the title, you give it more purpose, more credibility. There are many steps to be taken to gain a quality mid-card, and to restore some much needed credibility for the IC belt, but the WWE has the tools needed to take these steps. Get out of your slumber WWE!

The reason I believe that the tag titles, although in poor shape, are not as disrespected as the IC belt, is that for one, whenever you see the champions (as rare as that is with Rhodes/Holly), they carry their belts, and they are recognised as the champions. You don’t get any of this crap where the champions walk around without their belts, and never make mention to them. Also, the WWE at least tries different things with them. As stated in the first post I believe, there were 5 tag title holders in 2007. This is at least using the belts. This means that the belts were actually defended, and despite the fact that the belts were still rendered somewhat meaningless because of a lack of contenders and an unapparent tag division, the belts were still used on television, more than you can say for the IC belt. The Tag Titles even had a few (or just one) storylines around them. Remember the whole Hardys/Cade and Murdoch thing? When was the last storyline surrounding the IC belt?

Basically, both titles are unvalued, and have been for quite some time. The WWE dropped the ball several years ago, and haven’t been assed to pick it up again. It’s time they did. The ratings aren’t flowing in, because you can’t have two or three guys that are actually going for something (the WWE title), and have a point each and every week, and then just a bunch of people stumbling around like zombies to make up the rest of the roster. Wake these zombies (Kennedy, Jericho, Carlito and the other useful midcarders) up from their stupor by giving them an aim, a common goal. Actually try things with these guys in the midcard. That’s the place to do it. As of right now though, the first thing I see happening with the IC title is that it will either be rendered defunct, or just merged with the WWE title. Bad, bad, bad.

For the tag division, don’t just throw guys together as teams because you don’t feel like taking the time to build new, fresh actual teams. The WWE has lost their credible teams, yes, but that doesn’t mean that the Tag Titles don’t have to mean anything because there’s no one left to go for them. Titles will get over if people are showing that they mean something to them. The WWE need to get out of this lazy, short-cut taking mood they’ve been in for years, and start bringing in new tag teams and making an effort to get them over. This is the first step in re-creating the tag team division, and revaluing the belts. They seem to be doing everything they can to step around this.

Right now, if the belts aren’t the main focus for every single person on the roster, what is? The WWE aren’t giving their wrestlers reasons for getting out there every week and brutalising themselves. Especially when it comes to the lower guys. You want to make them stars? Make them credible champions. Credibility is hard to come by, especially since the WWE tries so hard to avoid this credibility. Jeff Hardy and Rhodes/Holly are not giving any credibility to their respective titles, for separate reasons. Long story short, the WWE is ‘off’ in every sense when it comes to how they treat the titles. For RAW, the Intercontinental Championship is the most disrespected. The Tag Titles are a close second.

[Agrex]

Both title are pretty bad off. There's really no competition for the both of them. For the world tag team titles the only possible contenders are: Londrick, Carlito & Santino, and Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch. That's three teams. Technically it's two because Londrick never get title shots. Now as for the IC title, the possible contenders are: Charlie Haas, Cody Rhodes, Umaga, and Mr.Kennedy. That's four, that is terrible, and disgusting. So, in my opinion, the IC title is less respected than the tag titles.

[Mighty NorCal]

I dont know id say its pretty close to equal, but Id give the nod to the IC belt. The tag titles dont have nearly the amount of quality teams competeing for them like they used to, nor are they as perstigous, but they are still the mian object of the competitors in the division, and teams still challenege for them. On the other hand, the IC title is nothing more than an ornament on Jeff Hardy at the moment. WHEN was the last time he defended it, and gainst WHO?? HAS he ever defended it since he beat Umaga for it??? I honestly cant remeber. Was the ladder match with Carlito for the belt? I guess so...So in all that time as champ, he has had all of ONE defense. No one cares to win the IC belt. At all. this title was battled over by the likes of Bret Hart, Mr.Perfect, Roddy Piper, Razor Ramon, HBK, Randy Orton, Owen Hart, STone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Rick Rude, Ultimate Warrior. The IC title used to carry a LOT of respect, and was an actual GOAL to reach. it no longer at this time is that. At all.There used to be classic wars waged over the belt, Like Piper Vs Hart, WM 8, Davey Boy Smith Vs Hart at Summerslam, Razor Ramon Vs Shawn Micheals at WM 10, and Summerslam 95. No longer. I still remember Bret Hart cutting promos when he first turned singles, saying " I dont care WHO I have to go through to get there, I WILL be the Intercontinental champion"...No one cuts promos like that about the IC title anymore. But they do over the tag titles.

[Danmen001]

Both of the titles are becoming more or less nothing. Both titles are hardly ever defended. Both titles, honestly no one gives a damn about anymore. But for me the Tag titles are more disrespected. Ok lets see, the last fued time I remember the belts had any decent storyline was when MVP and Matt had them. And the last time the other belts (the ones on raw because I forget the name) had any meaning was when HBK and Cena had then. A while ago, not to mention both those fueds were when the holders were against each other in a main storyline.(kinda ironic isn't it.)

They mean nothing now.

[ilovewrestling47]

I definitely think the tag titles are more disrespected. Holly and Rhodes is a joke. I haven't even seen them on TV for a few weeks. They might have been there but the champs are so boring I probably didn't pay attention if they were. And of course the storylines of which there was an absence of. I wish they gave the titles to a respectable team and made them look good with decent build-up of a fued. Of course it isn't all the wrestlers faults. WWE has barely any tag teams worth anything. That is why I hope they combine tag titles and have the champs go between shows. Don't get me wrong, the IC Title is still very disrespected. I was thrilled when Jericho and Hardy were going to have a lenghty fued over it but then Hardy had to do drugs and mess it all up. So I think Hardy getting suspended had the IC Title lose a chance to gain some more respect and put its prestige a little higher. Jericho holding the title now gives it some more credibility than in recent months with him being a now record 8-time champion.

[jpfizzle]

With the squash of Hardcore Holly by The Great Khali on past weeks Raw I am going to have to say the tag titles, for me this was the nail in the coffin on the tag titles... with The Worlds Greatest Tag Team disbanded months ago, London and Kendrick seemingly suspended and Robbie of the highlanders in hot water I think that the tag titles are in danger of being forgotten altogether. For example Carlito and Santino are supposed to be a tag team but they dont seem it at all! what was that build up for a few weeks ago?

I just dont think the tag titles are even taken into consideration in terms of importance these days.. IMO there the most meanngless titles in WWE history.