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Frank the Frowner
02-17-2008, 11:19 PM
Wow, what a return and a surprise.
Number one, Show looked GREAT. He's lost a lot of weight, and dare I say, he looks as good as he did when he was The Giant. His return promo and attack on Mysterio pretty much showed that he's going to be a main event player, and him being a heel can only add to the star power he's going to add to the roster.
Then, in a completely shocking development, Floyd Mayweather came out of nowhere and socked Show three times, legitimately breaking his nose (per another website). A lot of fanfare immediately came out of this, as people weren't sure if this was a work or a shoot.
WWE has done a damn good job controlling the leaks lately, giving us some surprise moments (Cena, Show's return, and now this Mayweather program).
Where do you think the feud goes from here to Wrestlemania? Show's been training to box, do we have a Show/Mayweather boxing match? Wrestler vs. Boxer? Mayweather manages a wrestler against Big Show?
Either way, this hopefully gives WWE some much-needed exposure.
TheOneBigWill
02-17-2008, 11:26 PM
At Sunday's WWE No Way Out PPV there was an angle involving The Big Show and boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. This was a work but appeared very real as Big Show took some very stiff shots. They wanted to make this look as real as possible and did a hell of a job in doing so. I expect this to lead to something between and two at 'Mania and look for lots of media on it tomorrow. Here is a recap of what went down taken from our No Way Out report:
The Big Show's music hits and he makes his way out to the ring. He shows off his newly trim body in a suit and says, "Guess who is back!" Big Show said he missed WWE and promises to become champion once again. He said it doesn't matter if it is Raw, Smackdown or ECW. Show said a lot of people make promises, but he has already been champion of Raw, Smackdown and ECW. He said it is only a matter of time before he becomes champion again. Show talks about losing over 100 pounds and that he is now faster, meaner and ready to be back in the WWE. Show notices an injured Rey Mysterio at ringside and grabs him. He starts slapping his bad arm and then looks over at Floyd Mayweather Jr. asking if he wants to do some. Mayweather shakes his head as Big Show throws Mysterio back in the ring. Show teases giving Mysterio a chokeslam. Show lifts Mysterio up and Mayweather jumps into the ring. Mayweather gets in Show's face and Mayweather's team hit the ring to hold him back. Show takes off his jacket and Mayweather is let go. They stare each other down as Show smiles. Show pushes Mayweather away. Show then gets down on one knee mocking Mayweather. Mayweather then walks forward and punches Big Show a few times. Mayweather then takes off with his team over the guard railing into the crowd. Shane McMahon runs out and holds Big Show back. Big Show's nose is busted open and he spits blood out. Show's nose looks legit messed up as Shane calms him down. Show backs up and leaves up the ramp with Shane. He smiles at the crowd with his nose and mouth covered in blood. They show a few replays and Mayweather caught Big Show with some legit hooks. This was done incredibly well and came across great.
So, does anyone else get the feeling that the Big Show's return was a colossal disappointment? I mean, they didn't want him to return in the Royal Rumble as "just another entry" so instead, they have him return to threaten an already injured Rey Mysterio.. and then start what looks to be a feud going into Wrestlemania, with a boxer thats roughly the same size as Rey Mysterio. :disappointed:
Honestly, I get that he doesn't deserve a lot because of his attitude upon leaving, and his backhanded nature of suddenly "missing the business." But come on, hasn't the W.W.E. learned from the Brawl for All contests that this just doesn't need to be a cross over.
What is everyone's opinion on Big Show's return, his possible boxing match against Floyd Mayweather Jr., and anything else related to your overall opinion on Big Show's return to the W.W.E.
Rocky3:16
02-17-2008, 11:37 PM
I actually enjoy Big Show in a "David Vs. Golliath" type of role. I think it brings out how great he can be as a heel because IMO, Big Show as a face never really seems to get over well enough with fans. I like the mean streak and ruthlessness he displays as a heel is fun. Also, good angle by WWE with bringing in Floyd Mayweather as a surpise. This is sure to get WWE a buch of exposure on Sportscenter and kinds of media outlets as we get closer to Wrestlemania.
Grudge
02-18-2008, 12:22 AM
OMG I loved that angle. I could tell his nose was broken when he walked up the ramp. Mayweather clocked him! I wasn't sure if it was a work or real till I looked here. Amazing devotion to agree to let one of the best Pound for Pound fighters in the world take free shots at your face. The highlight of the night for sure! I don't really know how you can't be excited about what may happen after seeing that.
I thought it was a great angle that was very well done. I'm very curious to see where they are going to take this from here. Show's return = HUGE success to me!
Steve_G87
02-18-2008, 07:20 AM
It was brilliant!
When he was winding Mayweather up, I was just praying that Mayweather would jump the rails, but never expected it, and then he just fucking-well did it!!
But when he smacked him as well! Oh my god, what a fantastic, brilliant angle. I mean, being an avid follower of British boxing, I didn't exactly hold Mayweather in the highest regard, and was hoping Ricky Hatton battered him. I kind of got more respect for him after that fight, and now, how unbelievable he can be as the hero!
This is the sign of something big if done right. They did it brilliantly last night, but let's hope it doesn't turn into a Kane v Kane flop of a story!
Taker316
02-18-2008, 09:22 AM
Well to me it was fckin awesome! lol unexpected, completely outta nowhere! and the Mayweather angle unexpected, outta nowhere aswell. The punches seemed soo real, not sure if they were.... i honestly hope they weren't for the good of Mayweather or Show might *accidently* get Mayweather with a shot to the face next time they meet lol. But anyway all in all it really caught me off guard, surprise angle was deffinetely there and its good to see it back in the WWE. Expect much more good things to happen and often now!
Lashley07
02-18-2008, 11:11 AM
The WWE is on the rise again folks, you betta believe 'dat!.
We were all expecting the Big Show to return sooner or later, and I pretty much expected it to be tonight, but what a return it was.
Good thing he is going to be heel, much better that way.
The angle with Floyd Mayweather Jr. (And Mysterio) was so well done, I was jumping out of my comfy sofa, cheering Mayweather on to attack the Big Show. Damn those punches HAD to hurt!
The Big Show looked seriously pissed off, and no wonder, a broken nose and a f***** up mouth? Hell, id be angry.
Well done to the WWE, Big Show, Mayweather Jr. and Mysterio for this angle.
Can't wait to tune into SmackDown! this week. Thats the first time ive said that for a LONG time.
(BTW, Big Show looks amazing. Well done to him for loosing all that weight)
psykohurricane
02-18-2008, 11:29 AM
I'm happy that big show cames back, the guy looks great and the fact that he's going to be a heel makes me happy. The problem is that is first feud will be against a celebrity and that bugs me because instead of having him make an impact against a major star, they are going to make him lose to a celebrity.
Another things is that if the same thing would have happen in TNA instead of WWE, everybody would have been against it but because it's the WWE it's o.k
So for what it'S worth i think it's was a dissapointing return and i hope that Big show doesn'T get lose in the shuffle.
Yuffie_Kisaragi
02-18-2008, 12:03 PM
Seems like itll be an awesome angle, the segment last night was really well done.
The only thing which might let it down is that Floyds a natural heel. Hes a cocky, arrogant, whiny prick...the boxing version of M.V.P. People boo him because they want to see the babyface style boxers like De La Hoya and Hatton knock his block off.....I can somehow see Big Show getting a babyface reaction despite the fact hes meant to be a heel.
Mayweather would have been better as the heel imo...maybe come into the ring like he was gonna attack Big Show but punch Rey instead...
mattitude2007
02-18-2008, 12:25 PM
That was one hell of a re-debut. And those stiff punches didn't make Big Show look weak, on the contrary he came off bad ass as hell. He immediately rebounded and looked like he was legit chasing mayweather and his whole crew who also all seemed legit scared.
I hope Show and Mayweather have an actual unscripted boxing match at Mania, and I hope Show pounds Meathweather into dust.
Kiko1983
02-18-2008, 01:27 PM
That was amazing!
I am not a fan of the big show at all but i marked out like a motherfucker tonight for that. Thats 2 pay per views running now where there has genuinely been 2 huge surprises which have gave me a buzz back again.
When he came down and had Rey and then a square up with Mayweather i was fearing the worst thinking it was going to be a weak return but then BOOM and it all kicked off and i loved every minute of it.
The angle looked so real so props to WWE for that.
I am happy Big Show is a heel as i feel when he is a face it kind of takes away from his character and he portrays that huge monster so much better as a heel.
Another thing too - it would be a coup if the WWE could get Mayweather into their schedule as he would make a great addition albeit his wrestling skills wouldn't be great but he would be great on the mic.
Mayweather is only wanting a couple more fights and then he wants to retire and he is still relatively young so could be an interesting addition.
Interested where this goes from here.
andyylf
02-18-2008, 02:28 PM
I think Big Shows return was class.
When his cheesey music hit and then he done his wee dance in the ring i thought to myself "whats going on here there making him look like a 7foot 2 pussy".
then when he attacked mysterio i thought ok so he's going to be a heel but why did they not just have him interfere in the match instead of this stupid promo........Then mayweather hits the ring and the who promo blew up, it was great.
It was done that well that i was thinking that Show was really wanting to kill him for a stiff punch.
the only thing i don't like about this angle is that it looks like it will be on Smackdown, i think it would be better on the live show.
Audioslave
02-18-2008, 06:19 PM
So, does anyone else get the feeling that the Big Show's return was a colossal disappointment? I mean, they didn't want him to return in the Royal Rumble as "just another entry" so instead, they have him return to threaten an already injured Rey Mysterio.. and then start what looks to be a feud going into Wrestlemania, with a boxer thats roughly the same size as Rey Mysterio. :disappointed:
Honestly, I get that he doesn't deserve a lot because of his attitude upon leaving, and his backhanded nature of suddenly "missing the business." But come on, hasn't the W.W.E. learned from the Brawl for All contests that this just doesn't need to be a cross over.
What is everyone's opinion on Big Show's return, his possible boxing match against Floyd Mayweather Jr., and anything else related to your overall opinion on Big Show's return to the W.W.E.
What the hell are you talking about? His attitude upon leaving? Like, you know, BEING FUCKING INJURED and wanting to go home and rest? God forbid wrestlers take some time off to mind their own health. Not only that, but before the guy left he was all for Heyman's plan of Punk tapping him out in the first few minutes of the chamber match to put the guy over. So take that "his attitude before leaving" bull and stuff it.
This angle with Mayweather is far, far better than being just another entry in the Royal Rumble that would've been tossed due, due to Cena returning and them wanting him in the main at Mania (which is still likely going to happen).
Big Show being put into this thing with Mayweather gives him and the WWE a chance at getting more press for Wrestlemania. Along with Show, Mysterio and whoever else has face time in this storyline.
It was exceedingly well done, IMO, and it was an awesome "holy fuck" moment. Big Show comes back, acts like a dick and a pro fighter gets in his face and busts him up. Show gives chase and they run the fuck off like they're gonna be getting their faces caved in. It was fucking great.
"RAVEN"
02-18-2008, 06:39 PM
The surprise factor with the new angle makes the return interesting. But I would have preferred if he made his return in the chamber as a "mystery participant". Kind of like Taker in the S.S. That way Big Daddy V wouldn't have wasted all our time.
I really didn't get it. He came out , and I thought he's a face , and the beginning of his promo seemed to back this up. Then all of a sudden he attacked Mysterio. That threw me a little , because he seemed to be playing to the crowd at the beginning. Although a heel role does suit him better.
TheOneBigWill
02-18-2008, 09:35 PM
What the hell are you talking about? His attitude upon leaving? Like, you know, BEING FUCKING INJURED and wanting to go home and rest? God forbid wrestlers take some time off to mind their own health. Not only that, but before the guy left he was all for Heyman's plan of Punk tapping him out in the first few minutes of the chamber match to put the guy over. So take that "his attitude before leaving" bull and stuff it.
Uhm.. unless you actually know what I'm refering to, don't presume to think I'm just randomly talking shit. What "I" was refering to, was a radio show that the Big Show did.. in which they refered to him as "The Big Show" and he said that was his "slave name" for the former company he worked for. Furthermore, he said he'd "never" work for McMahon again, because he felt it was racist and a bunch of other bullshit.
I think it was on the Bubba Love Sponge show, or something like that. The fact is, Paul Wright is just like every other big mouthed idiot who leaves the company. They think they can make it without the company, or better yet, they have the naive thought that THEY ARE the company.. and upon leaving, realize they weren't.. then money begins running out, and suddenly.. he "misses" the industry. My ass.
Don't come complain to me, about how he was injured. That may or may not of been a factor, but the main fact is, he ran his mouth off about everything I just said on a radio show.. because he had hopes of following other career pathes, possibly with Hulk Hogan getting into his ear, and none of them worked out.
Audioslave
02-19-2008, 01:27 AM
Uhm.. unless you actually know what I'm refering to, don't presume to think I'm just randomly talking shit. What "I" was refering to, was a radio show that the Big Show did.. in which they refered to him as "The Big Show" and he said that was his "slave name" for the former company he worked for. Furthermore, he said he'd "never" work for McMahon again, because he felt it was racist and a bunch of other bullshit.
I think it was on the Bubba Love Sponge show, or something like that. The fact is, Paul Wright is just like every other big mouthed idiot who leaves the company. They think they can make it without the company, or better yet, they have the naive thought that THEY ARE the company.. and upon leaving, realize they weren't.. then money begins running out, and suddenly.. he "misses" the industry. My ass.
Don't come complain to me, about how he was injured. That may or may not of been a factor, but the main fact is, he ran his mouth off about everything I just said on a radio show.. because he had hopes of following other career pathes, possibly with Hulk Hogan getting into his ear, and none of them worked out.
You made a vague statement about his attitude when I haven't heard anything about him being anything but professional in his exit of the company. So I responded in kind. I'd actually like to hear or read up on that interview. I haven't really heard of him saying anything of that nature. Is there any transcript of this interview or mp3 or something out there?
And it was reported by Meltzer that he was pretty banged up from all the bumps he took over a year, magnified by the fact he's a huge dude and his weight can't really help when resisting those kind of bumps he's taken over the years.
rKo0019
02-19-2008, 02:03 AM
Well I just got done watching Raw, mainly to see the highlights of Show's return at No Way Out...gotta say, very well done and got me interested in the whole angle.......until Big Show's segment on Raw.
First, he comes out to apologize(?)...he was the one who got his nose broken, sheesh...then Floyd Mayweather comes out with the usual posse, a la Mike Tyson. I know he was trying, but for all his supposed cockiness, he came across as anything but in his promo, slipping up on a few words - and to me he looked a little uneasy...
Anyway, I think this segment lost momentum tonight, due to the fact that the crowd was booing the face (Mayweather) and cheering Show. That's usually what you get when an outsider from another sport steps into a ring with a more recognized wrestler...plus it's hard for me to believe Show is scared of a guy who is pretty much the size of Rey Mysterio, when he's destroyed guys like Brock Lesnar and Batista and countless others...
Gimme a break. Maybe they can salvage this angle IMO if they make it a legit boxing match and have Show destroy Mayweather in one blow....heh heh.
erc24
02-19-2008, 03:14 AM
Had potential but Mayweather went too stiff, he's an awesome little boxer, but the fact of trying to sell "the best pound-for-pound boxer" against the Big Show at a welterweight size is just pathetic. The big show could've thrown his tiny *ss through the set if he chose to or Khalied his tiny melon for real. Letting him break his nose on his knees??? What's the point? Just making a giant look weak to a little man, no point. Mayweather is a tough tiny guy, but this is just beyond comicbookish.
If they do a tag match at mania, who could believe him doing ANYTHING to the big show without knowing how to pro wrestle unless show fought on his knees (LOL)??? and if mayweather tags with mysterio, come on, welterweights are from 140-147lbs if I remember right.
"RAVEN"
02-19-2008, 04:58 AM
I would rather see a straight up wrestling match if anything between these two. We all saw how WWE's last boxing match went; Bart Gunn knocked the f' out.
TheOneBigWill
02-19-2008, 05:23 AM
I would rather see a straight up wrestling match if anything between these two. We all saw how WWE's last boxing match went; Bart Gunn knocked the f' out.
What the hell would a wrestling match between a guy barely bigger than Rey Mysterio and with NO wrestling experience against the Big Show be like? WORSE than the Bart Gunn/Brawl for All match.
Besides, Show has a bigger head than Bart Gunn, so I doubt he'll get knocked out early on.. and the size will be a problem, which I'm curious if Mayweather could even reach Show's head when both are standing. I think the punch, since it'd be coming upward, wouldn't be clear enough to "knock him out."
I think the contest will still end with Mayweather winning, due to who he is, and who they're building him as. But I think the match/contest will last longer than the Butterbean/Bart Gunn disaster.
Davi323
02-19-2008, 10:05 AM
I suspect that whether the format of their Wrestlemania match, there won't be a winner. Floyd Mayweather wouldn't have agreed to do anything if it was going to make him look bad, and they just brought the Big Show back, and having him lose to a guy he dwarfs in size would kill any possible momentum for him, ruining it...So, we are going to have a bogus ending to the match. But, if this is a legit fight, lets be real. Mayweather MIGHT be the best boxer in the world (at least in his weight class) but, even in a boxing match, how the hell could he knock out the Big Show? All Show has to do is stand, Mayweather can't reach his face. Show has about 200 lbs on him, longer reach, much more height. Big Show could bully him around the entire match. This isn't like when he sumo'ed against Akebono...Show is MUCH larger than Mayweather, in every sense of the word. With the power that Show has, I wouldn't be surprised if he took Mayweather's head off with a well placed punch. Mayweather might be able to knock the crap out of other boxers his size, but...Show aint exactly his size.
In a wrestling match, I don't think we even have to break it down...No way in hell Mayweather could realistically have a chance at beating Show.
Boxer v. wrestler match, again, given Show's size, and his hands not being bound by boxing gloves, its another no contest.
The matchup is so heavily weighted towards Big Show destroying Mayweather (which, personally I hope he does, as even though me and Mayweather are from the same hometown, he is nothing but a loudmouthed fool...) the only way that this can possibly end is either a no-contest, DQ, or something bogus like that.
scorpionz_venom
02-19-2008, 11:11 AM
Dude, this is great. Mayweather is a natural at #*%! talking so it's a natural for him to enter this arena. He prolly hasn't been to OVW or FSW to hone his promo skills for wrestling, but I suspect that being a natural showman, he'll improve a little. Also, he is a phenomenal athlete. Did you see the way he leapt into the ring? It was also apparent at the NBA Celebrity All Star Game. As we saw on RAW, he may even serve to get a little heel heat. I don't mean to play the race card, but young, cocky, trash talking African Americans who are the best at what they do always serve to draw the ire of Americans. We also have an outsider trying to best one of "our" (wrestler) guys. As seen on RAW, the polarizing effect may be good for the angle, and give it a feel of "realness". Boxers are hardly ever pushed as face/heel. They tend to be "tweeners" who some like and some don't. I'm not expecting an Angle/Lance Storm wrestling clinic here. Just some SPORTS ENTERTAINMENT. All you haters out there, just sit back an enjoy.
NYSandman
02-19-2008, 06:37 PM
Whole storyline is a bad idea. Show looks great, BTW. Good for him. :) But, why the hell a boxer? I am not a huge boxing fan, and this guy is about 2 feet shorter than Show! Yes, if a good boxer could REACH and got in a good shot, they could probably take down Paul. But, most likely, the boxer would be crushed or choked to death, if he didn't react fast enough.
Why not Show against Khali? Okay, Khali sucks, but people will STILL go for two Dinosaurs going at it. Show/Umaga. Three way Giant's match. Show/Umaga/Khali! Lot's of stuff you can do.
But, this is nonsense, at least IMHO.
The return was cool and unexpected, and the attack on Mysterio worked out fine.
Glad he's back, and hope the WWE doesn't waste him.
Davi323
02-22-2008, 06:34 PM
My guess is that Big Show wanted to have a boxer storyline, because the reason he lost all that weight was because he was training to become a boxer...ie, it stands to reason he wants to show off what he learned.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
02-24-2008, 03:18 PM
Its a shame Big Show has to return to such a shitty angle. He's clearly not going to beat Mayweather and he won't even receive the right heat as everyone is clearly cheering for Show instead of booing. So his big return will be slapped in the face by a loss to some "flavor of the moment" boxer - because we all know once Mayweather loses, who cares about him anymore? - instead of feuding with someone that the fans might get into. Even though I'm not a Batista fan, the guy has nothing to do at Wrestlemania right now, so why not book the two against each other so the Batista fans get treated with a nice match and Big Show gets something a little more interesting than a guaranteed loss?
SpiralHands
02-24-2008, 04:26 PM
More big time Kodus to WWE for keeping that secret, they are doing well with thier leaks recently, I mean we knew he was going to return but no one knew was to be at No Way Out. When he came out I was pumped Ive always liked the Big Show and every promotion needs a giant one thats definatly better than the Great Khali! When he came out looking in tremendous shape and talked to the crowd I thought he would then be face, but then he picked up Rey and I knew big bad mean show is back! And all that comotion with Mayweather I think was brilliant, I was starting to think it was real! And I think having those to at Wrestlemania the biggest event of the year, think of the exposure WWE will get, they are so going to bury TNA that week! Well done WWE!
Big Fella
02-25-2008, 02:40 AM
Obviously, this will not be a shoot boxing match between Pretty Boy and Show. For anyone that thinks Show would win hands down though, I highly doubt it.
Mayweather's KO ability seems to be fading, but he is still likely the greatest boxer in the world right now. There is no way he would put Show down.
Boxing requires a level of conditioning that most professional wrestlers would be unable to keep up with. Show tried training for the ring, he decided he was too old to be successful.
Floyd wouldn't knock Big Show out, but I'm not sure how many times Show could hit Floyd in the first few rounds. I give Show 3 rounds at best before tiring. From there, Floyd could get in, get out, probably landing punches at will.
The fight would likely go the distance (unless Show threw in the towel) but Floyd would likely cruise to a unanimous decision in a legit boxing match.
genericwrestler
02-26-2008, 02:48 AM
wwe would never ever dare to set up a legit boxing match between those two: big show would be seen as the flagship of wrestling by the media, but BS doesn't stand a chance against a real boxer, especially not mayweather, BS would be completely destroyed => extreme credit loss for the wwe.
i really wonder what they'll do though. as many people said before: mayweather won't lose, but i don't think BS will either, so i see the following options:
1. BS gets intentionally disqualified, mayweather leaves and BS wreaks havoc on rey mysterio or whoever he will be feuding against
2. there won't een be a boxing match, BS proposes a contest that mayweather can't (physically) win due to his size. after bs has won mayweather knocks BS down
3. they box, it'll look like BS loses, vicky calls for the edgeheads, mayweather knocks the edgeheads down and leaves, big show sets up an angle against vicky/edgeheads because he says he wouldn't have needed help
smth like this :)
mattitude2007
02-26-2008, 10:31 AM
As has been said before, there are weight classes in boxing for a reason.
Big Show having at least rudimentary boxing skills and well over a foot height advantage along with 200 lbs + weight advantage would simply bulldoze Mayweather.
That won't happen but a shoot fight between the two would so rule. WWE will fail and has failed so far to get Big Show booed against Mayweather, and I too will be cheering Show.
LuvMyEdge
02-27-2008, 12:30 PM
First, let me say I think Big Show looks great, and Kudos to him for it.
About the Mayweather/Big Show match ... I hate the idea. Let's forget one minute that little man barely comes up to Big Show's belly button, he's a cocky, arrogant little man, who in my opinion, does not belong in the wrestling ring. I don't see the WWE paying him $20 million dollars to lose, but it's so unrealistic that he'd win against such a big man ... that is unless Show plans to fight the man on his knees. If this match goes down, I will be screaming, "Go, Big Show."
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