WrestleMania XXIV: Money In The Bank [Archive]

TheOneBigWill

02-19-2008, 07:34 AM

I'm still unsure if Shawn Michaels will end up in the Money in the Bank match, or the Ric Flair retirement/Hall of Fame match.

Also, since Matt Hardy hasn't yet returned, do you think they'll do the Matt Hardy v. M.V.P. match as a single's match, or place both men in the Money In The Bank as well?

I completely see Chris Jericho, C.M. Punk, John Morrison and possibly Umaga all making it into the Money In The Bank match.

Chris Jericho: It'd be somewhat fitting, seeing as to how he was the original guy that created the entire "match concept" to begin with. Also, as I've stated several times.. apparently his feud with J.B.L. is just unexplainably and instantly.. over. I think this match would be a nice fit for Jericho, to return to the big stage of the year.

C.M. Punk: Great, agile talent. Hes Main Event worthy, and a former E.C.W. Champion which by rule makes him considerably believable to win the match and gain hold of a chance to win a "legit" World Heavyweight Championship. (won't happen, but he's looked at as good for this match)

John Morrison: Pretty much the exact same thing I said about Punk, would qualify for Morrison. The only difference is Morrison has a little bit more experience in Ladder matches (W.W.E. style) and I think he'd be a nice character to enter into the match where any number of guys could steal the match, and the show.

Umaga: Each year, they really add one guy that doesn't seem to belong. Kane was the first year. Lashley and Flair were the second year. Finlay was honesty unfit for last year's as well. I think this year, they'll add someone that you'd never imagine would even be capable of stepping foot on a ladder.. yet during this year's match, end up being one of the guy's flying off the very top of it.

Umaga doesn't seem to have any other role. Therefore, I definately see him being the Monster/Unfit Character for this year's version.

Y 2 Jake

02-19-2008, 07:53 AM

I see Umaga & Jericho making it into this match. But not Morrison. I'm unsure about Punk

Other than appearing at Survivor Series he hasn't really done much for the past few months. I also think there is only one place in this match for an ECW superstar. If it's not Punk then it won't be anybody else. For the ECW superstars I see a gauntlet match. That way they are on the show, but they aren't taking up too much space. It would be booked like the usual Cruierweight invitationals.

greenbeast95

02-19-2008, 02:22 PM

I hope Morrison is not in it, not because he wouldn't be good, but because there should be tag-title match he should be in, we'll see if that happens. I'm a little let down that Hardy and Kennedy are in, as I think they are each capable of carrying a singles match on the big stage. Finlay and Benjamin would do the same thing they did in the last couple MITB matches. Jericho and Punk would be good. Maybe Kane? It would be nice to see him in a match that means something at Mania this year. Cody Rhodes could be a decent choice, but I'd rather see the tag titles defended in his case.

IC25

02-19-2008, 02:33 PM

C.M. Punk: Great, agile talent. Hes Main Event worthy, and a former E.C.W. Champion which by rule makes him considerably believable to win the match and gain hold of a chance to win a "legit" World Heavyweight Championship. (won't happen, but he's looked at as good for this match)

No he's not. He's just not ready, and he proved that at No Way Out thinking that hitting the Three Amigos as a face would be a smart move. He isn't main event material, because the ECW "Championship" is a curtain jerk. Punk will be in MITB and will have a good showing, but he'll end up like Shelton Benjamin the last three years - impressive MITB showing, always a bridesmaid and never a bride.

Mr-excitement

02-19-2008, 02:41 PM

IC25

02-19-2008, 02:45 PM

The problem with this match is it makes no sense for a face to win it.

Lets say Jericho won Cyber Sunday and at some point a face is bloody and can barely get to his feet and Jeircho demands to use his match, that could turn the crowd against him and sends the message he can't fairly beat the heel.

This is a heel's match, even RVD had to use it at an ECW PPV where the crowd was in his favor.

Yes, but RVD still gave Cena a month's notice. If you keep having a heel do the "Edge Thing" by cashing it at a weak moment, the idea loses luster. If Jericho wins it and cashes it in in advance, it sets up a cool match, especially if HHH is a heel champ.

I even like what Kennedy planned last year. He said he'd cash his in AT Wrestlemania, and even had a countdown on WWE.com. I loved that shit. Jericho could do that with his old Countdown Clock. Jericho vs Edge for the Heavyweight Title @ Wrestlemania next year? Or Jericho vs Cena, with Jericho aiming to get revenge on the man who forced him out 2 years ago?

Why does it have to be cashed in in a heel fashion?

Ratedrko619

02-19-2008, 03:56 PM

8five

02-19-2008, 04:17 PM

I put what was just stated in the Wrestlemania main thread, but I feel that the countdown clock for Kennedy will start to reappear, but he uses it to take the Smackdown gold as revenge against Edge after he ends takers streak

Shelton is overly shown in that MITB promo video so I see the other 6 being
Shelton
Kane
Jericho
Then I really have no clue but random guesses would include
Dreamer - based on recent article
Batista - he has nothing else at the moment
A cruiserweight either Wang Yang/ Shane Helms/ or Jamie Noble

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

02-19-2008, 04:19 PM

Ok, typical long post from me coming up, lol, so you're warned. Normally, the Money in the Bank match consists of 6 or 8 guys that are in the midcard or upper midcard/lower main event status. They'll never waste it on people like the Highlanders. So the first part of breaking down predictions for the contenders in this match is to look at the rosters themselves and throw out all the garbage like Funaki.

PART I. The following people will be involved in angles, so we can count them out: Triple H, Randy Orton, John Cena, Edge, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Big Show, Finlay.

The people that have no chance are your Trevor Murdochs, your Charlie Haas-level guys, and your brand new Kofi Kingstons. Too soon for the newcomers like D.H. Smith, too much of a waste for Hardcore Holly to be involved.

That leaves the following potential candidates: CM Punk, Mr. Kennedy, HBK, JBL, Jeff Hardy, John Morrison, Batista, Umaga, Chris Jericho, MVP, Kane, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, Santino Marella, Wang Yang, Shannon Moore, Matt Hardy, Carlito, Jamie Noble, Chavo Guerrero, Tommy Dreamer

PART II. Other angles are being implied, including "MVP vs Hardy", "HBK vs Flair", and a possible "CM Punk vs Chavo Guerrero". So we can eliminate those.

Updated Potential List: Mr. Kennedy, JBL, Jeff Hardy, John Morrison, Batista, Umaga, Chris Jericho, Kane, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, Santino Marella, Wang Yang, Shannon Moore, Carlito, Jamie Noble, Tommy Dreamer

PART III. We already know that Kennedy and Hardy are in it, so that's two names we can take off the list and add onto the "definite" section. So let's look at the rest of the candidates:

CANDIDATES:

1. JBL = Might be involved in the McMahon/Hornswoggle match. Might have a match with Y2J. He seems out of place in this type of match.
2. John Morrison = Prime candidate. Can't see why he wouldn't be in it unless it was simply a numbers affair and they had 4/6 others that take the spot before him.
3. Batista = Since Rey can't wrestle with Mayweather in that horrible storyline, I can wholeheartedly see Batista filling in the spot. This makes his involvement in the MITB match unlikely.
4. Umaga = Has nothing better to do. He can be a prime candidate.
5. Jericho = Unless he's in a JBL match, he'll fit in here perfectly. Prime candidate number three.
6. Kane = He's been in it before as well, and has nothing better to do. Prime candidate number four.
7. Shelton Benjamin = Looks like they won't be pushing him for the ECW title right now, so he'd fit in here very well. Prime candidate number five.
8. Elijah Burke = He'd fit if there weren't so many other possibilities. So while he'd fit in the match easily, he won't be involved due to the "numbers game".
9. Santino/Wang Yang/Moore/Carlito/Noble = Doubt it.
10. Tommy Dreamer = We just heard that he wants to be involved, so who knows, maybe they'll throw him a bone.

PART IV. Due to the analysis from above, it seems to me like the most likely participants will be:
1. Jeff Hardy
2. Mr. Kennedy
3. John Morrison
4. Umaga
5. Jericho
6. Kane
7. Shelton Benjamin
8. Tommy Dreamer

PART V. If this was the lineup, we know Hardy is the favorite to win, with Kennedy being the runner up, then either Shelton to challenge for the ECW title or Morrison to challenge for something down the line. Kane absolutely will not win, Dreamer absolutely will not win, Jericho is almost guaranteed not to win as he doesn't need the MITB for a push as he's a big enough star that he can just challenge outright.

BrooklynBuc

02-19-2008, 04:38 PM

You forgot The Miz, Morrison's Tag Team title partner...

The WWE is giving him a mid-card push with the belts and he had a semi-push against Punk for a short time for the title. Plus, I think the WWE likes doing the tag team split gimmick with Morrison and Miz having to work together even though they're opponents in the match.

Unless Miz is a bitch and doesn't want in the ladder match.

I almost agree with your list, but seeing as how I think they'll do it:

1. Jeff Hardy
2. Mr. Kennedy
3. Shelton Benjamin
4. Tommy Dreamer
5. Umaga
6. John Morrison
7. The Miz
8. Chris Jericho

Last year it was 3 faces (The Hardys and CM Punk) and 5 heels (Edge, Orton, Kennedy, Booker, and Finlay). I could see them doing the same strategy.

The big losers, Big Daddy V, Mark Henry, and The Great Khali were smartly omitted as well. Batista would never "stoop so low as to be a ladder match." He seems like the asshole type who wants a huge match. I could see Kane having to face one of them, probably Big Daddy V.

P.S. - I am VERY curious to see if the WWE would actually do that. What if Kennedy won Money in the Bank, then either Cena or HHH (my pick to win) then cashed it in and used to win it on the same night? I don't see Kennedy as being ready to be WWE champion yet, but it would be very shocking to see. How would the crowd react, especially if it was the last match, which would only be the 3rd Wrestlemania ever that ended with the WWE title in the hands of a heel.

Steamboat Ricky

02-20-2008, 04:25 PM

Jericho could do that with his old Countdown Clock. Jericho vs Edge for the Heavyweight Title @ Wrestlemania next year? Or Jericho vs Cena, with Jericho aiming to get revenge on the man who forced him out 2 years ago?

IC25 = :band:

I'd rep you, but it won't let me. That is seriously one of the greatest ideas i've heard in a long time. It doesn't even have to be Jericho. Could be anybody. But do you realize how much buildup something like that could have? If done correctly, it could be bigger buildup than Sting-Hogan. It would have to be extremely well planned, systematic, and emphasis would need to be made on keeping both healthy.

Wow, that idea got me excited. I miss story-based wrestling feuds. This would be a GREAT launch back into that setting.

Shocky

02-20-2008, 04:48 PM

Well, I'm hell bent on Jeff Hardy vs. Cena for the title at Summerslam, the question is, who will be champion, and who will be challenger. All signs are pointing to this match happening eventually, and if they're going to push Hardy to the moon, don't waste it on a "B" pay per view.

One of 2 Scenarios: (Both Scenarios have Hardy winning, because I don't honestly see anyone else winning it right now)

1. Hardy wins MITB and cashes in for Summerslam against John Cena.

2. Randy Orton manages to squeak out a victory at WM, obviously very heel tactics. Cena and Triple h are both confused, and lay out Orton. Hardy's music hits, cashes in MITB. Orton tries to leave, only to be stopped by Trips and Cena. Hardy cashes in and wins.

Mr-excitement

02-21-2008, 12:09 PM

Giving someone a month's notice does not add any luster to money in the bank. Basically there is no surprise element and RVD cashed in at an ECW PPV. If he cashes in at WM or Summerslam, it could not even carry the card, and yes I say that sadly.

Same with Kennedy, I had FORGOTTEN he had had a countdown clock. Yet I remember the two times Edge used it to win the title, most likely because that is the way it should be used.

It has lost luster, because It is a predicatble gimmick, unless you add the stip that the person who wins MUST defend the briefcase once a month until they use the contract and if they don't - it will be placed back above the ring for another match.

BrooklynBuc

02-21-2008, 12:59 PM

I don't think it's lost its luster. Think about the past 3 (or 4) winners of Money in the Bank:

Edge: cashed it in after an Elimination Chamber match.

Rob Van Dam: cashed it in to get the crowd advantage at ECW One Night Stand

Mr. Kennedy: set a clock to cash it in for Wrestlemania 24

Edge: won it from Kennedy to beat The Undertaker after a brutal steel cage match AND an attack from Mark Henry, on free TV no less!

So far we have Jeff Hardy and Mr. Kennedy. It's a foregone conclusion that Shelton Benjamin and Chris Jericho will be in it since both were so good the last times they were in, and each of those guys has a great story to get the briefcase:

Hardy: came close to beating Orton at the Royal Rumble, plus he has defeated HHH in the past and still hungry for the title;

Kennedy: former winner who never got a chance to cash it in; would he cash it in at Wrestlemania 24 like he said he would if he wins?

Benjamin: wants to be ECW champion. (although most would say it's a waste since no one sees the ECW championship in the same light)

Jericho: former Undisputed champion who has history with ALL THREE guys fighting for the WWE title, and none of it is good.

Anyone added in (such as Kane, a former WWE champion, John Morrison, a former ECW champ and IC Champ, or Umaga, who just likes to hurt people) would be gravy after these four.

Dylanis

02-22-2008, 09:25 AM

huwtimbrell38

02-22-2008, 09:56 AM

It all depends on whether WWE has the winners of Wrestlemania be faces or heels. HHH may turn heel by mania as he has been pushing for it and he is my favourite to walk out champ, and taker has to be favourite to take the title on smackdown.
want to push Keneddy as a major heel? have the taker/edge match as the actual main event! taker defeats edge after an epic battle to keep the streak going. out comes keneddy with his rubbish new music and brand spanking new MITB breifcase to defeat Taker at mania and end the streak! would be ironic that this is the way edge took the title and keneddy uses his effort to win the title, no bigger way imo to put keneddy over as a massive heel and he gets to move of Raw where i think he is wasted

razrramon

02-22-2008, 10:42 AM

Anyone else think this is plausible: the winner of the Money in the Bank match, likely Jeff Hardy, cashes in during the main event. Kinda like the wist to WrestleMania IX, when no one expected Hogan to take on Yokozuna.

huwtimbrell38

02-22-2008, 11:38 AM

LegendKiller97

02-22-2008, 12:30 PM

i think the only way, other than to announce a future title shot, for a face to use the mitb and not have heel tendancies would be for say hardy to win mitb, then have say orton win the main event by dq, then hardy comes out and takes the belt with a clean finish. therefore just as the fans think the ppv is gonna end with another dq finish hardy comes out and "saves the day" and gives us an ending to cheer! otherwise its seen as the oppurtunistic title shot which is a very heel thing to do.

Well when RVD one it he came out and challenged Cena to a time and place which wasnt a heel thing. I think if an over enough babyface like Jeff Hardy wins the MITB and challenges the champion at an oppurtunistic time then wins the title he wont get heel heat. Especially if the champion is Cena.

But like I said I think if a face wins the MITB match he will most likley challenge the champion at a set time and place like RVD did.

Hacksaw Highway

02-22-2008, 12:52 PM

I love the idea of Kennedy winning and using it at the end of the night to keep his word about headlining WM 24. I think Umaga should definatley be in it, he's a big guy but he is pretty agile and can take some good bumps and fly. Plus, he is still pretty credible. As for ECW, put in Shelton and Dreamer IMO. Burke would be a good fit too, but with ECW being the lowest brand you can't have too many from there. Is it just me, or does SD have virtually no good candidates for this match, especially with Rey out of action?

EdgarVenegas

02-22-2008, 01:07 PM

Chaze2k1

02-22-2008, 01:14 PM

Matt Hardy and MVP would be the best to candidates from SD! but we all assume that those two will face each other for the US Title. Unless they want to go with that Miz and Morrison are part of the SD roster then we are looking at very loaded raw money in the bank.

TheOneBigWill

02-22-2008, 01:15 PM

Mr Kenendy should be the winner of the Money of the Bank Ladder Match. WWE screwed him over the one he won in WM23. He should win it in WM24. He is one of the best new comers in the Raw brand. He is going to be WWE Champion soon

How did they screw him over?! He got injured, and they had to take the Money In The Bank case off him, since he would've orginally won the Championship from Undertaker (I'd assume) but he went down due to injury as well.

They needed someone to step up and be the Main Event player they felt they could be. Mr. Kennedy was suppose to be it, but got injured. Then, upon his return, he had another big push lined up.. only to fuck himself over by being apart of the steroid scandals. In my opinion, I'm sick of people saying Kennedy is being, or has been screwed. He did it to himself.

Its only known that Kennedy and Hardy are in (unless you read the Smackdown Spoilers - which do NOT post who else is in) and if I had to randomly guess.. I'd say your winner is the guy who qualified first. Jeff Hardy. Why? Because W.W.E. likely got what they wanted from his match at the Royal Rumble, and the fan response.. and he'll likely be getting a meaningless World Heavyweight Championship run during the low point of the year.

Shocky

02-22-2008, 01:49 PM

Got to agree with Will, if I hear one more person bitch about Kennedy getting "screwed" by the WWE, red rep is going to go flying around. The guy fucked up. He did his best Raphael Palmero impression by "I repeat, I never used steroids," only to, oops, get busted for steroids. The dude is a fuck up and needs to reprove himself worthy of having a good push. Kennedy got injured, which sucked at the time, no one coudl help that. But he ruined his second push, that's on Kennedy. Kennedy winning MITB is a waste of time.

mattitude2007

02-22-2008, 02:06 PM

And for those coming down on Kennedy you need to be reminded that he did have a legit reason for them, the complete lat tear plus the staph infection that made him lose 40 lbs in a couple of days, he had a medical excuse, his doctor ordered them in his name from a bad source, not his fault, and he didn't get too much heat for it as you may remember him saying.

There is plenty of time between now and Wrestlemania. There is plenty of time to build Kennedy back up into that position to win it, he has been on a winning streak on Raw for awhile now anyway, it wouldn't be hard to elevate that. Hell Hardy's big push before the rumble came in even less time.

Kennedy and Hardy are the only legit contenders to winning the briefcase though that much is true.

Y 2 Jake

02-23-2008, 02:59 AM

I'm really not sure why Shelton is involved in the match. Actually I do know. Because him running up a ladder is far more impressive than Jeff falling off one. But why is he in the match other than that? He hasn't been booked on PPV in nearly a year, and he's hardly been on TV. And I might be wrong but didn't he last about a minute in the Rumble? It just seems like it came out of nowhere. There are plenty of wrestlers who have been pushed harder over the year, but wont be in the match. Snitzky, Rhodes, Holly etc. They wouldn't be as good in the match, I admit. But they have been stronger on TV as of late.

02-23-2008, 03:19 AM

Ah Money in the bank.Every winner has not held the title for a long time or not even get a shot!Lets look-

Edge-3 week regin as champ.Not great.

R.V.D-Went downhill after he chased in his MITB

Kennedy-Didn,t even get a shot!

Benjamin is always great in ladder matches and Hardy is the same.I can't see Punk in it(him vs chavo at WM me thinks).I,d love to see Shane Helms in it.Perefect way to come back.Incase you don,t know what Shane can do in ladder matches watch a certain match on the Ladder match DVD.Morrison would totally rock in the MITB Match.I can see him and Miz turning on each other during the match.That my opinon.

Wait isnt WM out doors this year?Then how will the case be held?

realchamp22

02-23-2008, 06:23 AM

Ah Money in the bank.Every winner has not held the title for a long time or not even get a shot!Lets look-.
if you don't mind i'll take a look at your look

Edge-3 week regin as champ.Not great.
i agree this reign was too short but, they were testing the waters seeing if Edge could cut it as the champ and a top star on raw by putting him in a feud with John Cena, remember this is what started his fued with Cena

R.V.D-Went downhill after he chased in his MITB
RVD fu*ked up plain and simple, he was doing great holding both belts but then he got busted for possesion and being WWE & ECW champion vince had to make a public example so he made him drop both belts and gave him a 30 (or 60 can't remember) i'm a huge RVD fan but facts are facts

Kennedy-Didn,t even get a shot!
Kennedy got injured and WWE didn't know how long he would be out for they had to take the briefcase from Kennedy incase 1. one of the champions got injured (which happened) or 2. they got a great idea for a feud. Kennedy was going to get his push as Vinces son but we all know what happened there

Benjamin is always great in ladder matches and Hardy is the same.I can't see Punk in it(him vs chavo at WM me thinks).I,d love to see Shane Helms in it.Perefect way to come back.Incase you don,t know what Shane can do in ladder matches watch a certain match on the Ladder match DVD.Morrison would totally rock in the MITB Match.I can see him and Miz turning on each other during the match.That my opinon.

Benjamin- Great addition to the MITB he's shown he can climb the ladder with the best of them at the grand daddy of them all

Jeff Hardy- a bump machine and my pick to win he his so over and i think he can have a good strong title run and the crowd love him i can see posters saying "if Hardy dosen't win we riot"

CM Punk- had a great showning in this match last year and i don't think they want an ECW title match at WM

Morrison- the two ladder matches i can remember with Morrison(Raw vs Jeff Hardy and 4-way tag at armaggedon 06) he put on master classes and would do incredably in this match

the Miz- for the love of god NO

Shane Helms- still mending a broken neck and anyway they wouldn't risk it in a ladder match right of of the box(love to see it though)

Chavo-i think they will put him in here he's great in ladder matches and WWE don't think the ECW Title is a real world title (he was in the Rumble)

Wait isnt WM out doors this year?Then how will the case be held?
yeah it is, i think it will be suspended on light gantry or something

bioshock

02-23-2008, 07:55 AM

tbanger

02-23-2008, 09:14 AM

i think if someone were to cash it in on the night they would be looking at a sneaky opportunistic win, after another match, rather than adding themselves to a match
you have to look at it in terms of: why would someone win a grueling ladder match and then enter into a match with two or three other fit, fresh guys?

Fratelli

02-23-2008, 09:49 AM

its confirmed hardy kennedy and benjamin are in so that leaves 5 more places i believe. my personal picks for the match would be to have hardy vs benjamin vs kennedy vs cm punk vs morrison vs mvp vs matt hardy vs elijah burke.
obviously tho i think wwe will hav matt vs mvp so take them out. leaving 2 more. possibly the miz altho hes shit but it would b good to see miz vs morrison in a quallifying match then at wm miz come down and screw morrison out of the mitb just wen u think he will win. tommy dreamer was talked about and why not he deserves another wm match? umaga will probly in it and cm punk will likly hav a ecw title match (hopefully someone else has beaten him for it, awful decision puttin him top ecw man). y2j could b in a match with jbl but after this weeks raw looks like it will be jbl vs finlay, which will be a piss poor wrestlemania match.

final picks for money in the bank: winner - jeff hardy please!!, kennedy, umaga, benjamin, dreamer, kane, y2j, jamie noble (i think he deserves a chance)

KENNEDY4PRES

02-23-2008, 09:54 AM

Hey guys, I'm a new user here on WZ, an this is my first post.

I feel that Mr. Kennedy will be the one to walk out with it. BUT I would love to see Hardy win it, and then in a super heel push, Kennedy claims the case in the same fashion he lost it, and then Defeats Undertaker the next nite on Smackdown!. I really see Ken as a Smackdown! superstar. And an Undertaker/Kennedy fued was good before, and it would be great again.

Or I could see him winning it, and then cashing it in later in the night to beat Triple H or Cena and boast about how HE SAID he would cash it in at Wrestlemania 24. That would make an interesting finish to Wrestlemania.

As for who else I see in it,

Shelton Benjamain - He is the best in these matches.

Chris Jericho - He has nothing to do and it would give him a competitive match at a Wrestlemainia.

Batista - He shouldn't be in it, but he will.

Elijah Burke - He is really competitive and it would be interesting to see what he does at Mania on his own.

Kane - For a big man, he has proven he can go in these matches. And if there is anyone who deserves to win it, it's him.

John Morrison - He could win a qualifiying match against Miz and then go into this match. He is the type of guy who like Hardy, could do something crazy in this match.

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Agrex

02-23-2008, 04:12 PM

Or I could see him winning it, and then cashing it in later in the night to beat Triple H or Cena and boast about how HE SAID he would cash it in at Wrestlemania 24. That would make an interesting finish to Wrestlemania.

First of all, welcome to WZ. Anyways, I think that would be a very good idea. The Money in the Bank will suck this year, but this could change everything. That would give him massive heat, for winning the title, but not being billed to wrestle in the main event. That's exactly what Kennedy needs, massive heat. The fans kind of forgot about him, because of his uneventful year (since returning from inury). That would give him two 'Mania wins in one night, which is always good. Back to the idea, yes, that would be an amazing way to finish off 'Mania.

ChiefsFan8211

02-24-2008, 09:47 AM

Matt Hardy Will Come Back During Wrestlemania And Win The Money In The Bank Ladder Match

I seriously doubt that. It will be Hardy vs. MVP for the US Title at 'Mania

My dream match for this years MITB match would be:

Jeff Hardy vs. Kennedy vs. Benjamin vs. Tommy Dreamer vs. Helms vs. Jericho (since it looks like the feud with JBL is over) vs. Shawn Michaels (though I suspect he will be ending Flair's career) vs. jimmy wang yang (yea his character is pretty ridiculous but I'd like to see what he can do on a ladder.)

mcflyboy

02-24-2008, 12:59 PM

It's been mentioned before in this thread, but every year after money in the bank I've hoped that the winner cashes it in that same night, but it's never happened. And while that probably will happen at some point, I doubt it will this year. The reason for that is because I suspect that HHH (or maybe Cena, but probably HHH) will win the title and will likely hold it for a long time. Posted on the site in the rumors section is how hard HHH is pushing for another title reign (and to turn heel soon).

Similarly, whoever wins between edge and undertaker is going to probably hold the belt for a long time as well. They've really been doing a lot to keep edge in the spotlight. But then there's the undertaker's streak to consider. I can't imagine them having undertaker win the title only to lose it the same night. I suppose someone could win money in the bank and go after the ECW title, but that seems kind of a waste.

Also just as an afterthought, what is with these lame money in the bank qualifying matches? Come on, at least make it an interesting qualifier. Like Snitsky, Val Venis, or Jimmy wang yang have a chance of winning the qualifying matches. All 3 of them have as much likelihood of being in money in the bank as i do.

michaelj817

02-24-2008, 01:53 PM

I think it would be cool if Kennedy win the match and then cashed it in later that night immediately after either Triple H or Cena won the WWE title match. This way, he would make true his promise that he would headline WM24. He lost the briefcase to Edge due to injury but they could let him win and finally give him his main event push. I don't think this will happen, as Hardy will probably take it, but it would be a little unpredictable at least.

In this case, some might recall Hogan coming down and taking the title from Yoko after Bret lost it at WM 9. However, this makes great sense from the standpoint that the winner of MITB can challenge at any time, and what better way to make a lasting Wrestlemania moment, than by adding another match to the card as the show is literally about to go off the air. It would be a great addition to a card that is shaping up to be not so memorable, and it would work for either a heel or a face depending on who ends up champion at the end of the night.

If Orton or HHH win(and I honestly hope Orton retains just so he doesn't come off looking like a stooge and less important than Cena or HHH), Jeff Hardy is the obvious choice to win MITB. Hunter or Orton go over, the 2 losers go the back, and mid celebration just as we are about to go off the air, out comes Hardy with briefcase in tow. In this case, it has to be a real match and last for a little while, and cannot be a quick squash by Hardy capitalizing on the Champ being tired and worn down, or you risk heeling him. However, when Hardy wins neither Orton or Hunter really lose face, b/c they play it off as a fluke the next night on Raw. Both have history with Hardy, so logically the feuds are already built in. In HHH's case though, he doesn't have to be full heel when he loses to Hardy at Mania, as the feud with Hardy will itself be the vehicle for the full turn.

If Cena wins, Kennedy is the logical choice to win MITB and come out mid celebration and beat Cena. However, he can heel on him and beat him cheaply the way Edge did. I'd still prefer a full match, but Cena doesn't have to lose face either. In the 3-way dance with HHH and Orton, they can work a reinjury of his pec, and then have him come back and still win the title. He then his loses to Kennedy and that can be written off due the next night on Raw due to his injury, and also lead into a nice long running feud between the 2. I'd really like to see this feud anyway as both are good on the mic and I think they could run with a war of words for a while before there actually had another match. The only problem with Kennedy going over Cena, is that WWE wants Cena as a babyface, and I see Kennedy getting huge pops from the crowd in a feud with Cena and beating him at WM. This is why if they are going to pull this off, I think it will be with Hardy.

Either way though, if the winner of MITB is going to do a surprise challenge after the Main Event, whoever it is has to win the match. Otherwise, the whole challenge is pointless, therefore killing off the specialness of the MITB(which I am not a fan of to begin with)and does nothing to further any possible feuds with the MITB challenger or the champion.

pg04

02-24-2008, 02:26 PM

I think if Kennedy were to win I don't think they'd use the challenge same night, because I have doubts that they'd want to end the show with a heel shocker. Although if Hardy won MITB, I could see him beating Orton.

I think a bigger factor in this argument is that yes, the winner of the triple threat would be coming off a grueling match, but the MITB is a pretty grueling match itself (moreso), and the Winner of that match would theoretically be more beaten up than the person who won in the main event...

joshj 234

02-24-2008, 02:42 PM

I think someone already said this, But I would like to see Hardy win the MITB match. Then hhh when the title, then after he wins Jeff cash in and win the title off trips that night... Maybe a dumb idea but i think that it would be great... just my opinion

sph25190450@hotmail.co.uk

02-24-2008, 07:20 PM

Here are the 8 people I see being involved in the match: Jeff Hardy, Mr. Kennedy, Chris Jericho, Umaga, Kane, Chavo Guerrero, CM Punk and Shelton Benjamin.
I don't think they will bother with an ECW title match as they clearly don't care about this title otherwise why would Chavo have been involved in the Royal Rumble match? In fact I think they will end up unifying it with the US title and make ditch ECW all together in the next few months.
Here are some of the other candidates who have been mentioned and why I don't think they will be invovled:
Tommy Dreamer: He is a jobber.
The Miz: As above
John Morrison: Being held back by partnership with the Miz
Khali/ Mark Henry/ Big Flabby V: Can you really see one of these climbing into the ring let alone climbing a ladder.
Batista: Too big a star, will probably take Mysterio place in Mayweather/ Big Show fued.
MVP/Matt Hardy: Likely to face each other if Hardy returns in time.
JBL/Finlay: As above
Chuck Palumbo/ Jamie Noble: Not big enough stars
HBK: Seems likely to face Flair
Burke: Ignored in ECW

Cage917r

02-24-2008, 09:43 PM

First of all, i would like to state that i do believe that Hardy will win the MITB match. I think he will have a title run by the end of 2008, i think he wins the match and moves to Smackdown to fued with Edge.

When looking at who will be in it you have to look at the other matches on the show. With the expected title matches, Cena, HHH, Orton, Taker, Edge, MVP, Matt Hardy, can all be easily taken out of consideration. That makes three matches, you have the Show/Mayweather match, Ric Flair Retirement match, Finlay/McMahon and the MITB match makes seven matches, there are usually at least eight at mania so expect at least more title match, probably the ECW title and maybe a tag title match. Which leads me to believe that the eight competitors will be: Jeff Hardy, Mr. Kennedy, Shelton Benjamin, Kane, Batista/HBK(whichever one is not in the Flair match), John Morrison, Carlito, and Umaga. With Hardy walking out with the win, he has been on such a big role lately, which will keep on going at Mania'.

bnn52

02-25-2008, 02:17 PM

Lets see we have 3 already qualified for the match. Hardy, Kennedy, and Benjamin. So as far as the other 5 MITB participants go here are my predictions:

Elijah Burke - Will be used for a few high spots in the match, but I dont see him winning this match, but a great asset to the overall quality of it.

Umaga - I really would like to see what he could do in this atmosphere. Gives us a big dominant heel in the match.

Y2J - Not only for his talent and to have a big name in the match, but I see him as one of three potential winners here in this match. His rust is almost gone and what better way to get him back to the big stage then a win in this match.

Kofi Kingston - What better way to give a new superstar a push. Give him a few high spots in the match, no chance at winning it, but lets see what he can do at the grandaddy of em all.

I am contemplating who will get the last spot here. I would like to see Kane here. He deserves to be in some sort of match at WM. I dont want to see it happen, but I can see WWE putting Batista in this match to have more "main event talent in the match. I can see Morrison in the match, he has done a great job in the past here, but I dont see them putting him in there without the Miz, Tommy Dreamer would be a good fill here, but the match will be crowded with ECW guys who is the third ranked show. So I am going with Kane for the final spot in the match.

The three possible winners for obvious reasons, Jeff Hardy, Y2J, or Mr Kennedy.

jwh888

02-25-2008, 03:05 PM

Well, I think this years MITB the 8 stars will contain (3 Raw, 3 SD & 2 ECW)

For the ECW Title picture, Very Hard!! alot think CM Punk will get another shot but its happened so much already I think CM Punk needs to earn it again & so he & Shelton Benjamin will be ECW's side for MITB. It looks like the plans for another JBL/Y2J match at Mania are out do to JBL's helping Vince take out Finlay. Where does this leave the ECW Title picture, Jericho & Umaga too for Mania. At first I came up with the Idea of Y2J challenging Chavo for the ECW Title & Umaga in the MITB leaving Finlay/JBL a singles match. Now at this moment the WZ News states that Chris Jericho will most likely be the 3rd representing Raw in the MITB & thats good, like it. So Now my only predition for Umaga is for him to team with JBL & take on Foley & Finlay in a Street Fight for Custody at Mania where of course McMahon & Hornswaggle will get involved.

Back to the ECW Title, who will face Chavo??, a good choice of mine that would've been perfect since he's also I think familiur sort of with the Guerreros who at this time is stuck at the bottom of RAW/Heat jobbing at times & that man is Super Crazy. Of Course now, not happening so my other last choices are Tommy Dreamer & Steven Richards.

The News stated some time ago about the plans of MVP taking on Matt Hardy for the U.S. Title. Up to this point no talk as to whats happening with Matt Hardy so in my prediction I think there going to have MVP represent the 3 of Smackdown in the MITB & not defend his U.S Title just like you got Jeff Hardy in that match not defending his I.C. Title. Matt Hardy should make his return at WM24 & help his brother Jeff win & take out MVP at the same time & start there U.S. title fued there.

In closing, My MITB Ladder Match at WM24 Prediction is
Jeff Hardy / Kennedy / Jericho / MVP / Batista / Kane / CM Punk / Benjamin

kcordloh

02-25-2008, 03:30 PM

Hardy is the favorite to win.
He could either cash it in in the main event; say Orton wins by letting HHH & Cena duke it out and then uses a chair and is relatively fresh and then Hardy comes out and says he wants a rematch from the Rumble because he came SOO close and he knows he can beat Orton. If you have Hardy limp and sell his injuries from the past 3 months + the earlier ladder match it wouldn't garner any heel heat, infact it'd generate huge face heat for Hardy because he's challenging someone who has the advantage over him.

Or, Hardy could use it to challenge the champion later on. Hardy/HHH, Hardy/Orton, Hardy/Umaga, and Hardy/HBK have all proven to be money matches in the past in terms of quality and fan reaction; we all know Cena/Hardy will blow the roof off in terms of fan reaction and they're both pretty good at matches, a TLC match between Cena/Hardy would be MOTY because it'd be a Rock/Hogan fan reaction AND they're both really good at that type of match.

Y 2 Jake

02-25-2008, 09:44 PM

TheOneBigWill

02-25-2008, 10:50 PM

I'm pretty sure Jericho didn't envision himself making up the mumbers in the MITB match when he resigned. It seems like a bit of a waste of him to me. 8 people in a match. How is somebody like Y2J supposed to stand out? He's not really a heavy bumper so he'll just fade into the background of this match.

Is it still a definate that there will be 8 spots? To be honest, Mr. Kennedy, Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho and Shelton Benjamin could carry this match with simply adding two more names. Due to the fact that they will likely have another MITB match on either E.C.W. tomorrow night, or Smackdown Friday.. I'm sure it'll end up being 8 guys instead of 6, but still.

I think the only thing that was ruined, was Kennedy's promo on Orton on Raw tonight. Him exclaiming he'd cash in the opportunity at the end of the same night pretty much ruined any chance of that actually happening now, as everyone will NOW be looking for it to happen.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

02-25-2008, 11:08 PM

Now that we know there's the "brand superiority" match with Umaga and a Smackdown star (COUGH*OBVIOUSLY BATISTA*COUGH) we can count those two out of this for sure. We know Hardy, Kennedy, Benjamin, and Jericho, so that leaves 2 or 4 options.

The list I had previously made up, when taking these names out and the names out of others that won't be involved, leaves us with this:

John Morrison, Kane, Elijah Burke, Santino Marella, Wang Yang, Shannon Moore, Carlito, Jamie Noble, Tommy Dreamer

1. Jeff Hardy
2. Mr. Kennedy
3. Shelton Benjamin
4. Chris Jericho
5. John Morrison
6. Kane
(7. Elijah Burke)
(8. Tommy Dreamer)

They don't necessarily need Burke or Dreamer, as the 6 before them could more than carry this into one hell of a match, but if they do have 8 people, those seem to be the most likely.

And, of course, I still think Hardy is going to win, but Kennedy picked up a little more steam with this past episode of Raw.

wlannon

02-26-2008, 12:38 AM

I hope to god there is not 8 people in it this year. I was at mania 23 and i must say that 8 people in that match was a little overboard. as stated before, the 4 in it now could carry it with 2 more people and put on a hell of a match and possibly be the best on the card the way its shaping up. except possibly for the edge/undertaker match, which hopefully lives up to the hype it will be getting.

i see these 6 in it:

hardy
kennedy
benjamin
y2j
burke
kane

i really dont know who else they could put in there. i think they need to defend both tag belts to possibly give them some more credibility. same with the us and ic titles but the ic title isnt going to be defended obviously.

i think after kennedy saying tonight that he will cash in that night, pretty much makes it obvious he wont win(just my opinion). everyone will be expecting that, and i think the only way they would have it cashed in the same night would be if orton retained. and i see triple h walking out the champ, so that throws that possibility out the window.
i see jeff hardy getting the win and getting a shot with the title either by summerslam or the end of the year. i think it would probably be on smackdown so they can still have raw built around triple h and cena.

or y2j could win and feud with kennedy after mania over the briefcase.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

02-26-2008, 12:45 PM

...or y2j could win and feud with kennedy after mania over the briefcase.

I think a Jericho/Kennedy feud would be great, but they actually could do it without having either of them win. They can give the MITB to Hardy, but make it so Kennedy was about to win until Jericho did something to prevent it. If they make it a good enough spot (which they usually do with the end of ladder matches) then Kennedy and Y2J can just start a feud the next night on Raw, blaming each other for neither winning the briefcase. That gives you the feud on top of how they want Hardy to win the title shot.

RKO Orton

02-26-2008, 03:53 PM

I believe they said there was going to be 8 men in the match, but now I don't remember. Either way there are 4 men qualified, with four left. I really don't think that the WWE will defend either Tag-Team titles at WrstleMania because they've only defended it once at the past 3 I believe. Here are the 4 guys I think could be involved in the MITB match:

Carlito
John Morrison
Kane
Wang Yang

So maybe that wouldn't make a difference but it could lead to some nasty spots. I could see Carlito or Morrison being close to the briefcase before the ladder was pushed down on him. It would make these guys look good and they probably won't be doing anything else at Mania.

Slim Pickns

02-26-2008, 03:58 PM

Takerfan2007

02-26-2008, 04:44 PM

i see mr kennedy winning the money in the bank and cashing it in on the New WHC the undertaker at wm 24.... The original plans so ive heard was to have kennedy to cash in the MITB @ WM24 to beat taker for the WHC so why wouldnt they keep that plan? In my oppinon taker will beat edge then kennedy will cash in the MITB on the undertaker making undertaker technically 16-1 though some could debate a 16-0 record

Joker ' Ferreira

02-26-2008, 04:58 PM

I was thinking about the Money in the Bank match in genral and realized how it is pretty much the WWE's version of American Idol. You have eight stars just below the main event competing for a chance at the big time. Except that the winner doesn't really matter, because there are so many other ways to make it to the main event.

Even if Jericho or Hardy lose this match, they'll likely get a title shot before next year's Mania anyway making the match pointless. Just like American Idol, Daughtry is selling more albums than all of the people who beat him that year. The idea for this match sounds good on paper, but when you think about the long run, its pretty pointless.
I guess it would make more sense if they gave the winner of the MITB a automatic title shot after Wrestlemania, like at Backlash, Vengeance or so, because wouldn't make sense to win the match and don't get thrown to the a main-event status.

I think perhaps we will se a one night appearence from Mr. Tuesday Night, Van Dam, what would be gigantic, but that would lead him to lose, and I don't see RVD coming back to lose a match and go away.

So perhaps they will add 4 more guys, and I bet on this ones: Kane, Elijah Burke, Kofi Kingston and Tommy Dreamer.

ONEWAYLEEWAY

02-26-2008, 05:03 PM

wlannon

02-26-2008, 05:11 PM

ok so far...jericho...j.hardy.....shelton.....and kennedy are in...so 4 superstars left to pic

and i pic
5....c.m. punk

6....carlito

7....m.v.p

8...matt hardy as a surprise entrant

so thats 4 from raw....2 from smackdown and 2 from ecw....

the winner i thinks gunna be mrrrrrr kennedy.....kennedy hes gunna cum out after cenas match and "shock the world" by beatin up cena and takin the belt cena just won...and he forfills his promise of headlining wm24...magic!!!!

How is that gonna shock the world exactly? He said last night on raw thats what he was going to do, and honestly i think it means he wont win the match, because everyone will be expecting that. and the plans last year might have been for him to cash in this year at mania, but that was before he got hurt and got caught with his foot in his mouth about steroids. i dont think they are ready to give him that chance again and like someone said, a kennedy/y2j feud after mania about how they cost each other the match would be good for both of them.

strafro

02-26-2008, 05:25 PM

Right now, since Jericho beat Hardy clean on RAW last night, I have Jericho as the favorite, but then I started thinking what he could actually do with the case if he got it and I came up with a brilliant plan.

Cena wins the belt at Mania (meh, better than HHH), HHH gets pissed and does a semi-heel turn, he and Orton are both trying to prove they should be the #1 guy to challenge over the summer, they challenge in a Handicapped match at the GAB, unless Cena finds a partner, Cena can't find anybody, but Jericho says he will help get rid of them so he can become the contender and cash in the briefcase. Cena and Jericho win, after the match, Jericho lays Cena out with the case, turns heel and wins the belt. I know it's a longshot, but I am all for this happening.

michaelj817

02-26-2008, 05:43 PM

Cena wins the belt at Mania (meh, better than HHH), HHH gets pissed and does a semi-heel turn, he and Orton are both trying to prove they should be the #1 guy to challenge over the summer, they challenge in a Handicapped match at the GAB, unless Cena finds a partner, Cena can't find anybody, but Jericho says he will help get rid of them so he can become the contender and cash in the briefcase. Cena and Jericho win, after the match, Jericho lays Cena out with the case, turns heel and wins the belt. I know it's a longshot, but I am all for this happening.

This senario is fine except that it is too predictable, but in fact it is something right up WWE's alley. However, why would Jericho help Cena get rid of HHH and Orton to be the #1 contender? As MITB winner, he can challenge at any time he wants, regardless of who the #1 contender is. Plus I think WWE has lost all faith in Jericho as a hip and current main event player, and doubt they would put him in that role before he proves himself to be a good draw as a championship contender again. Not that he doesn't have good matches. His match with Hardy on Raw last night was some of the most fun I've had as a fan watching Raw in a long time. But I think until he does something great to truly set himself outside of the pack, WWE will look on him as nothing more than a good hand.

strafro

02-26-2008, 05:48 PM

This senario is fine except that it is too predictable, but in fact it is something right up WWE's alley. However, why would Jericho help Cena get rid of HHH and Orton to be the #1 contender? As MITB winner, he can challenge at any time he wants, regardless of who the #1 contender is. Plus I think WWE has lost all faith in Jericho as a hip and current main event player, and doubt they would put him in that role before he proves himself to be a good draw as a championship contender again. Not that he doesn't have good matches. His match with Hardy on Raw last night was some of the most fun I've had as a fan watching Raw in a long time. But I think until he does something great to truly set himself outside of the pack, WWE will look on him as nothing more than a good hand.

Yeah, it is wishful thinking on my part but I have never seen Jericho have great drawing power as a face. He is a natural born heel and is gold as such, he has had so many great feuds as a heel, and maybe turning him before he uses the case makes more sense to test the waters kind of, but I am already getting bored of face Jericho and am loathing an uber hilarious monster heel Jericho, but I doubt they will do this as they are trying to get rid of "cool heels" apparently.

8five

02-26-2008, 06:08 PM

First off the plan was for Kennedy to say the whole time he was going to cash it in at WM 24 only to do what Edge did and surprise the Undertaker and take the title but he got hurt. Since that moment I had been predicting that he would win MITB again and shock everyone by cashing it in that night but still over the Undertaker because he isn't ready to run raw with how top heavy it is but after a Smackdown run he'll be ready for it. But, now with him telling Orton his plan last night this won't happen and I'm beyond annoyed about it because it would be one of those great moments if it wasnt talked about before hand. Now I have no idea what was going to happen cause if Kennedy won this then it would set up Jericho to be flip heel on Hardy and have what would undoubtedly be the feud of the year and restore prominence to the IC belt. So now what is going to happen:

Going off the past MITB you first have Edge who was close to being a main eventer at the time but was stuck hanging around the midcard and really it was the MITB which propelled him into main event status and a heavyweight champion. RVD another solid career mid carder who whenever he was put into the main event spot it was just to job like in an elimination chamber but never in a 1 on 1 spot. Then you have Edge again through Kennedy. At the time he was stuck with nothing really to do after the DX feud and break up with RKO if it wasn't for that injury to Kennedy I wouldn't doubt you would be seeing him in a feud with Jeff Hardy over the IC belt. So where am I getting at, it has to be a mid carder who has been stuck there and wanting that final push to main event level. Who in WWE is in this predicament: Would of said Kennedy but his speech gave it away hes not winnning as stated before. Possibly Jeff, but he has been in the main event spot recently and wasn't exactly jobbing but with Cena's return could be put into that category. So he's my 2nd choice. As much as this could fit Shelton I just don't see an ECW guy winning. What does all this lead to..... MVP. As a heel he can effectively use the surprise title shot as warranted. He is stuck in the mid card but constantly puts on solid performances against the current upper card. This is all on the basis that Matt Hardy isnt healthy enough to finish the feud at Wrestlemania or that WWE feels the match needs more star power. So if hes in i'm going with MVP if not then as much as I don't want it I think Jeff is the only other viable option after ruining Kennedy's shot with his speech

Murfish

02-26-2008, 06:19 PM

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

02-26-2008, 06:52 PM

I don't think they can get away with having a heel do the same thing that Edge did twice. Granted, its EXACTLY what I'd do if I won the Money in the Bank, as its the most intelligent option, but at the same time, its too repetitive. That would mean that 3/4 times it had the exact same result. Having Edge do it the 2nd time was more than understandable, as that's the same man, the ultimate opportunist, etc etc, plus it was their best option with the injuries. Having MVP or Kennedy just follow Edge's suit, though, is poor writing. It reminds me of these people that pitch movie sequels and all they do is type the first movie out scene by scene.

Because of that, they need to give it to a face who will be "too honorable to cash it in like Edge has done". Hardy fits that bill and all the others they're looking for in the Money in the Bank winner.

Question, though...if Hardy wins, he'll have to wait until the HHH/Cena/Orton feud spills over, which will probably be two or three ppvs (or a million, since its HHH/Cena), before he can challenge for the title. In that time frame, who does Hardy feud with? He's had a feud with Kennedy, Orton will be tied up, he's had a small feud with Umaga.........hopefully the draft comes soon after Wrestlemania and Hardy gets someone good to feud with for the Intercontinental title, like Elijah Burke.

I_Like_All_Wrestling

02-26-2008, 08:37 PM

So who is in it now? Jericho, Jeff Hardy, Shelton Benjamin and Mr. Kennedy? If there are 4 more spots based on who is not in a WM match right now you'd have to think that Batista and CM Punk would have to be in Mania. Probably MVP and I guess you have to put Chavo in there so that the ECW champ has a WM match unless he's fighting Punk. The last guy would probably be Umaga (or Umanga as Regal says) or Kane.

I think it's too early for Punk or MVP and Shelton just wouldn't cut it. Chavo isn't main champion material. I doubt Kane would get it and there's no way Umaga would get it. As for Jericho, I don't think he's really in for a title run at any time during his comeback course. I think all signs are pointing to a Jeff Hardy win unless Batista is in it, then he'll probably have to be the favorite. Kennedy has a shot though.

Dylanis

02-27-2008, 03:01 PM

I think that Mr. Kennedy will win. It ruined the shock by reminding everyone of his claim, but it would still be good. He is already having matches with the champion and number 1 contenders. Jericho got the clean win over Hardy. And I doubt that that the other contenders coming up are going to even considered as possible winners.

Yeah, I'm kind of upset that he blew any "shock value" that would have happened if he cashed in the "Money in the Bank" title/suitcase or whatever you want to call it.

I think it would be really exciting if he did go ahead and win, then take the title. It would just give us a breath of fresh air on a brand that's been dominated by John Cena for over a year.

bnn52

02-27-2008, 04:18 PM

Now I really dont think Kennedy will win this years MITB, especially with him telling everyone how he is going to cash it in. MVP would be a great choice here, but if the match with matt happens that goes down the toilet. So you are going to see either Jeff Hardy or Y2J win this one, the others arent there yet. I just really want to see who else will be in the match since they are running out of talent to put on a good match.

C-Bizkit

02-27-2008, 05:02 PM

i would like to see mr. kennedy win the money in the bank ladder match at wrestlemania 24. however, i know he won't being that wwe has had a new winner since the creation of the match. y2j or jeff hardy are the best bets in my opinion. jeff will probably lose the IC title either before or soon after WM 24 to secure himself as a true main eventer. i recently seen mr. kennedy, y2j, jeff hardy, DX, randy orton and others in action here in honolulu, hawaii on feb. 13th. it was an excellent show and y2j and jeff hardy both proved that they can still fly high off the ropes and ladders. i hope for jeff hardy to win but i wouldn't mind seeing y2j win and get a bigger push into the mainstream.

chapmolly

02-27-2008, 10:19 PM

I see Kane vs. Chavo for the ECW title at Mania. That would allow a build up of BOD vs. Ma Familia towards Mania.

I believe that the four remaining spots will go to mainly ECW talent. They are the best ones in these matches as the show the best athleticism left. Elijah Burke (a whipping boy in this match, imagine the Outer Limits Elbow Drop atop a ladder), Tommy Dreamer (Give him his Wrestlemania moment), Jimmy Wang Yang (I see him winning a last chance battle royal, much like Lashley did a few years back, he would be unbelievable in the match) and my favorite is CM Punk (he could use the contract that night and beat a champion Cena, like I would have wanted last year from Kennedy, leave Mania on a shocker).

carthitup

02-27-2008, 11:02 PM

Even with Kennedy announcing it, I think it'd still be shocking, simply for the fact that it would push him to the moon. I mean, going over ANY of those three guys AT Mania would be a huge boost, regardless of whether it was after a match or not.

The one thing that WWE needs right now is top level heels. Even if it's not feuding for the belt, it would give the main event faces something else to do other than fight for the belt. You know, turn Jericho heel, up Kennedy to the main event level... boom. You've got some nice new people for Cena, HHH, and HBK to fight.

Anyway, for what it's worth, those he's amazing, I don't think Jericho should be in the match. He's a former title holder, and has actually demanded and received a title match in the past few months. I'd rather see MITB as something that GUARANTEES that a mid-level guy moves up, not a title shot for someone who could easily just get one anyway.

Personally, though he should technically finish out the feud with Hardy, I'd love to see MVP in the MITB, and have him walk away with it. Give it a few months, have him use it, and have Taker put him over. Perfect.

mikemayer28

02-27-2008, 11:11 PM

i say jeff hardy is going to win it because it seems like he always steals the show at wrestlemania. they have been pushing him pretty hard and he deserves another shot. the fans would love to see jeff as the wwe champion.

rainbow_haired_warrior13

02-28-2008, 04:54 AM

i think jeff is awesome.
his swantons are amazing!!
i hear he wants to do a higher one at mania than he did on orton.
this means he will probably be carried out of the match again....=[
shame,
he deserves another shot.

.::.rainbow_haired_warrior13.::.
...........................................

Enigmania

02-28-2008, 05:21 AM

I think Undertaker will win by DQ in the WHC Match - destroys Edge in anger and lets the winner (Kennedy or Jeff Hardy) walk in an win the title. Taker keeps his streak, Edge keeps the title (for the moment) and the MITB winner gets the WrestleMania moment.

dcdude

02-28-2008, 11:39 AM

hey alot of people have been saying jeff has to lose the ic title to be a ligit main eventer hey wait what was that feud with the 2 main eventerers you know stone cold and the rock hey they had a fued over the ic title so jeff can still keep the title if he wins but heres how i see it let dreamer burke kane and stenven richards in the match jeff wins easy then edge loses to taker via a low blow keeping the title then him and edge heads take him out but jeff makes the save and cashes it in edgeheads try to interfere but taker stops em jeff wins then goes over even(in wwes oppinion) by beating a monster like khali or big man boobs i mean daddy v

wrestlingfan701

02-28-2008, 12:33 PM

The way I see it, this could be the best MITB match so far, because of the talent involved already. But, it could easily turn into shit if they put Kane in the match or someone else just as big, slow and boring as him. Perhaps they should just hold off the end of Matt Hardy and MVP's feud until Backlash or something and even then I can't see it ending before another couple of ppvs anyway with rematchs involving ladders and a cage. But, yeah this should be the best match on the wrestlemania card and that's really not saying much. We should all know by now that it's gonna be shit. Definately not worth the money. So, just watch it online for free instead. Anyway, the winner will obviously be Hardy taking it, then probably going on to beat hhh for the strap at summmerslam or something... who knows?

Y 2 Jake

02-28-2008, 12:55 PM

Somebody like Kane would serve more of a purpose than most. He's big and strong. He's the sort that catches people like Jeff Hardy and stops his from crippling himself. Same with Big Daddy V if he was involved. He wouldn't use the ladder, but he'd be a big help to the wrestlers that do.

Capt. Charisma

02-28-2008, 01:57 PM

The match will be good but they should limit it to 4 guys, 6 or 8 is too many and makes it too hard to focus on what is going on. I also agree with Jake, there needs to be a big guy in it, but prefrebly one that is agile, ideally Umaga. Every gimmick match Umaga has had has been awsome. I really hope Kennedy doesn't win it though, Jeff wouldn't be too bad because it is his type of match and he has the momentum to pull it off. Kennedy would be a let down, and I just feel that Kennedy isn't good enough to get a title shot of any kind.

Joker ' Ferreira

02-28-2008, 01:59 PM

I only see Kennedy winning the MITB briefcase if Cena wins the WWE Championship, after the match, Kennedy comes out but Cena retains, that would definitely "shock the world". :P

evdogg311

02-28-2008, 02:00 PM

I agree with a few of the posts.. that it's pretty tedious to just throw the more talented mid carders into one giant ladder match. Maybe next year there should be a tournament in the weeks leading to 'Mania. Where the two winners get to fight in a one on one ladder match or something. I miss the old days where there was like 15 matches at a Wrestlemania. Of course I was really young in those days and all the wrestlers were someone to me.. maybe not to everyone.

HartsyThaiFood

02-28-2008, 02:04 PM

After RAW on Monday, I have a feeling they maaaay give Kennedy the win in the MitB match and then try to put him over after the main event. If there is anything that would shock people, it would be that. While he did announce that he would cash it in immediately, I don't see them really building that up much more. I mean, they will probably downplay that largely in the next few weeks and keep inserting him in to high profile spots in the next few shows.

I really do hope that is the case at least. It would be a nice surprise in the end, i believe.

I also see a Jericho/Hardy feud coming after WM. They played the possibility of it up nicely on Raw this past week.

My only question is who will be the other four in the match. Could it be possible they have Kane in the match, he wins the MitB match and then cashes it in later in the night to defeat the Undertaker for the belt and end his 'mania win streak? A scenario like that I think would be absolutely wonderful. Kane could bring up later how he'd lost twice to 'Taker on the biggest stage of them all, but this was his chance for revenge after all these years. It could elevate Kane to the top spot that I feel he's deserved for years. It also would be an amazing honor for him, seeing as he is 'Taker's "bro." Just a thought...

BrooklynBuc

02-28-2008, 04:04 PM

My thoughts are this:

Would mainstream fans like an ending where Mr. Kennedy won the WWE title? We all know the IWC would love it since people here love Kennedy's mic work and abilities, but how many Wrestlemanias have been good that ended up with a heel walking out as top champion? So far, Wrestlemania 16 had the Fatal-4-Way with HHH winning, then WM 17 had Austin turning heel by joining Vince McMahon, which was an event big enough to happen at Wrestlemania, but did it leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth? At Wrestlemania 19, Booker T lost to HHH but it was a mid-card match, so the night ended with a face Brock Lesnar beating a heel Kurt Angle. Ever since, no Wrestlemania has ended with a heel leaving with either top title, even last year with Lashley as the ECW champion.

Would Vince shock the wrestling world by ending the night with a heel pulling what Edge did and winning the WWE title from a weakened HHH or Cena? Especially at Wrestlemania of all places? Orton can't pull a bitch move and get DQed, nor can he get counted out (most triple threat matches are noDQ\no countout) but if he got a quick win via RKO out of nowhere, then a bruised-up Jeff Hardy cashed in and got the win, would the fans like that as the end to Wrestlemania? Hogan got the impromptu title match win at Wrestlemania 9 beating Yokozuna after no one saw it coming, and the crowd went nuts despite Hogan being fresher that Yoko, who just wrestled an intense match with Bret Hart.

The only way I could see Wrestlemania 24 ending with Kennedy cashing in MitB to win the WWE title would be if the WWE title match was the mid-card match and the night ended with Undertaker's re-gaining of the World Heavyweight Championship. (Wrestlemania 20 ended with the WHC as well) I doubt the WWE would play up a rare Undertaker vs. Edge match only to have end in a DQ just to have Hardy or Kennedy win it afterwards. Plus, I don't see Vince booking to end the biggest PPV of the year with a mid-card heel raising the WWE title in the air.

KingShaw3

02-28-2008, 08:30 PM

(No he's not. He's just not ready, and he proved that at No Way Out thinking that hitting the Three Amigos as a face would be a smart move. He isn't main event material, because the ECW "Championship" is a curtain jerk. Punk will be in MITB and will have a good showing, but he'll end up like Shelton Benjamin the last three years - impressive MITB showing, always a bridesmaid and never a bride.)

I really don't think that it was CM Punk's individual decision to pull out the Three Amigos at No Way Out. And of course CM Punk will be involved with the ECW title at WrestleMania (either challenging or defending) and not the MITB match. CM Punk is absolutely main event material. However, fighting other talented wrestlers is a key factor for Punk. Throwing him in with the inexperienced or ridiculously larger wrestlers isn't what he needs. If you don't think Punk and Morrison had the best singles matches ECW has had in quite a while then you don't know talent. ECW needs to get back to that. Chavo isn't believable as ECW champ. Anyone can say what they want about how good of a wrestler he is and how he deserves a good title run after all these years, and I would agree with you, but he is not what ECW needs. By the way I wouldn't compare CM Punk with Shelton Benjamin. Although, Shelton is an incredible wrestler he has no gimmick. "Ain't no stopping me now". That is the silliest thing I've ever heard. You know what happened?...they found that music for him...then one day when they thought 'hey he needs something to build his character...what's an easy quick fix?'...oh yeah he should come out and say the same crap that his entrance music says'. The reason Benjamin is always a bridesmaid is because despite his incredible athletic ability, he has no spark as a character. I mean he still dresses the same as he did when he was with Charlie Haas who is now some long lost luchador (ha!). CM Punk is a curtain jerker? Sure he starts the show off sometimes, but has also been in more main event matches on both ECW and Smackdown than just about anybody. And just another reminder, the curtain doesn't always have to be 'jerked' back to know what's behind it. So says Shaw...

a7xoff

02-28-2008, 08:33 PM

So as it stands right now according to WWE.com, we have 4 men slated for this match as of right now. Kennedy, Shelton, Jeff Hardy, and Y2J. Out of these four i can only really see Kennedy or Hardy winning it. Y2J I don't think has any chance since his return has more or less been a dud and he's not 1/2 as good as people expected him to be. Shelton I cannot see winning it primarly because he's on ECW... Would it propel his career? Probably not... Not while he's on ECW anyway... Kennedy I can see winning and going for the title at Wrestlemania, or I can see him holding it for a while and do something similar to Edge and cash it in at just the right time. I can also see Hardy winning it and cashing it at Backlash only to loose to the champ... My opinions could very well change of course as I doubt that it'll be just these four in the match...

wrestlingfan701

02-29-2008, 06:52 AM

Jake brought up a good point actually about Kane or someone big being in the match to help the smaller Jeff Hardy not break any bones in his body. As the first triangle ladder match at wm 16 included the first spot which saw Jeff executing a swanton from a huge ladder through a table, which just happened to land on the biggest guy in the match, Bubba Ray Dudley. And the same thing almost happened in TLC 4 where Jeff leg dropped Kane (biggest guy in the match) through a table. So, he brings up a good point. But, Umaga would have been the most preferable guy to have been in that position for this year's MITB match, which unfortunately won't be him because of his singles match with someone from sd! (obviously batista). So, it'll have to be Kane this year, who hasn't been in any kind of ladder match since the inaugural MITB match, like Jericho is doing this year (returning to MITB for the first time since the first MITB match).

a7xoff

02-29-2008, 07:26 AM

I wouldn't mind seeing it be Kane if there is a big guy though. If memory serves me right, Kane did rather well in the first MITB match. Problem is one can only think that Kane will be involved with Big Daddy V and Mark Henry still. However if not then Kane will probably be in the match after winning a qualifying match... Probably Big Daddy V or Mark Henry since those seem to be Kane's only opponents nowadays. I did think of a rather commical what if though. Should Big Daddy V get into the match... Picture him climbing up the ladder... One thing that Big Daddy has over Kane is that he is just that much more cushion for guys like Hardy to land on from off the ladder.
I wouldn't mind seeing Shelton do some more insane things such as runn up the ladder and closelining someone off of it. Still thinkingthat was pretty insane the first time I saw it.

ONEWAYLEEWAY

02-29-2008, 09:03 AM

How is that gonna shock the world exactly? He said last night on raw thats what he was going to do, and honestly i think it means he wont win the match, because everyone will be expecting that. and the plans last year might have been for him to cash in this year at mania, but that was before he got hurt and got caught with his foot in his mouth about steroids. i dont think they are ready to give him that chance again and like someone said, a kennedy/y2j feud after mania about how they cost each other the match would be good for both of them.[/QUOTE]

yer but....if u look at raw this week....they made kennedy do the mike check on cena and if that iznt setting him up for wm a dunno wat is....a mean its predictable and they could be throwin a curve ball 2 make it look like kennedys gun win and cash it in at mania...but ....y else would they get him involved with the 3 main players...a guess well hav 2 wait in c if kennedy keeps messin wif hhh cena and ortan...if he doez hes gun win the mitb....if they just randomly drop it and hav him messn wif hardy or jericho.....well then hes not gun win it...lets just sit bak and watch!!!

MrKennedy07

03-01-2008, 02:43 AM

Jeff Hardy vs. Chris Jericho vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Mr.Kennedy

Those 4 alone, would make this match awesome.

I think Kane, Montel Vontavious Porter, John Morrison and possibly The Great Khali(just a hunch)

I think Jericho takes the win here, unless Mvp is in the match, then i think he could win it. Mvp having the "Money in the Bank" gimmick would be great, his cocky character would suit it. And a good way too bring him too Main Event status.

dcdude

03-01-2008, 07:32 AM

yer but....if u look at raw this week....they made kennedy do the mike check on cena and if that iznt setting him up for wm a dunno wat is....a mean its predictable and they could be throwin a curve ball 2 make it look like kennedys gun win and cash it in at mania...but ....y else would they get him involved with the 3 main players...a guess well hav 2 wait in c if kennedy keeps messin wif hhh cena and ortan...if he doez hes gun win the mitb....if they just randomly drop it and hav him messn wif hardy or jericho.....well then hes not gun win it...lets just sit bak and watch!!!

how dose kennedy messing with cena or hhh or orton mean out bout him winning money in the bank think back to the rumble who looked like he was gonna win hardy and he didn't so how the hell would kennedy win for screwing with them but heres somthing they've bulit up everyone but jeff since they quilified so going off just that jeff will win so it looks like he acctully can do it and win the strap so if you build everyone else up then jeff beats up he'll look top dog then give him a winning streak just before the ppv before summerslam he wins then he can give matt his word and at summerslam wwe title vs us title winner take all now that would be great

Soul Reaper

03-02-2008, 07:07 PM

Everybody thinks kennedy should cash the money in the bank on orton,trips, or john cena but i think kennedy should win the money in the bank then cash it on undertaker and end the streak it would be even better if he was named mr.mcmahon's son. Then the next night on raw vince has another money in the bank match and since kennedy already was the winner they replace him with umaga or batista and jeff hardy wins and cashes it on orton the winner of the triple threat match at wrestlemania now that would be awesome as heck.

MOST-VALUABLE-WRESTLER

03-02-2008, 07:17 PM

Ok Isee It Being Jeff Hardy Vs Shelton Benjamin Vs Chris Jehrico Vs Mr Kennedy Vs Jbl Vs Kane........its Either Going To Be Jeff Or Kennedy Because Jeff Recent Push Could Reach Greater Heights If He Wins Mitb And Kennedy Because Of Last Years Win And Losing It......matt Or Mvp Will Not Be In It Cuz Matt Returned A Couple Of Days Ago And Attacked Mvp At A House Show Setting Them Up For Wrestlemania

jwh619

03-03-2008, 12:44 AM

Next week on Smackdown, Batista/MVP for U.S. Title - couple of things to look at:

1. Matt Hardy returns to cost MVP the Title and that making a chance for Umaga to beat Jeff for the I.C. & with Batista holding the U.S. Title then you will have Champion Vs. Champion in that Battle of the Brands (Batista/Umaga) at Mania along with MVP/Matt Hardy going at it singles bout or in the MITB Match

2. Umaga just plain interferes & costs Batista his shot & MVP/Matt Hardy U.S. Title match is set for Mania unless they decide to put them in the MITB Match anyway.

FOR ME - I Like #1, Jeff Hardy hasen't defended that I.C. Title since around Royal Rumble time in that shocking huge swanton ending against Orton but still I think they need to give Umaga something to go on I mean hey, to me he did put on a good show in that Chamber Match & a good heel on RAW but if only he had mic skills. So I'm going for Jeff to drop the I.C. Title & win the MITB match because I think this guys got a WWE Title coming to him soon.

As for the rest of the MITB Ladder Match, you already got Jeff Hardy, Kennedy, Jericho & Benjamin which is already awesome. I'll say MVP & Matt Hardy will join in along with CM Punk & John Morrison.

therocksaysyo

03-03-2008, 08:34 AM

But on the other hand, JERICHO or HARDY should win too! Both guys need to be booked strong. I would love for the 2008 Draft to carry at least one of these guys to Smackdown! Actually, Jericho would greatly benefit from being away from the Raw politics!!!

TavenBrothersFan

03-03-2008, 03:28 PM

Whoever wins this year's MITB will Not win the title. It has been to predicable the last couple of years that the guy who has the MITB would successfully cash it in. I could see Jericho winning MITB this year and having a feud with Triple H after he wins the belt, but Jericho will be the first not to successfully cash it in.

Other 4 guys
Look For: Morrison, Miz or Carlito, Kane, & The Great Khali (seems like there is always a guy that doesnt belong)

jasu

03-03-2008, 05:09 PM

MITB - There are four spots left in the MITB match and these are the superstars I feel should take the spots to add more credibility to the match and make it more entertaining for everyone

Carlito - he had an awesome ladder match with Jeff Hardy on raw and I think he would put some good spots in the match, plus its better then seeing him in a tag match for the 3rd straight wrestlemania

Santino - him and carlito could team up in the match and santino could be used for all the comedy spots to make this match more entertaining

Chavo and CM Punk - I would have Chavo and CM Punk in a match for the ECW belt and somehow both men have there shoulders pinned for the 3 count. Forcing ECW GM to vacate the belt, that would give chavo and cmpunk the oppurtunity to be put in the MITB match and I think its better then having Chavo defend the belt against Punk for the 100th time at wrestlemania

MITB - Jeff Hardy, Y2J, Kennedy, Benjamin (Carlito, Santino, Chavo, CM Punk)

Y 2 Jake

03-03-2008, 09:10 PM

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-03-2008, 10:17 PM

So that makes it:

Hardy / Kennedy / Benjamin / Jericho / Carlito / (Empty) / (Empty) / (Empty)

I still have a feeling that two of those spots are going to Kane and Morrison, not sure about the other...maybe Elijah Burke, as he has absolutely nothing to do.

Doesn't matter, though, the edge still goes to Hardy and then Kennedy.

Mighty NorCal

03-04-2008, 12:21 AM

why in the world do they feel the need to just constantly THROW a bunch of guys at this event??? The last years MITB was an 8 man, and it was a peice of shit. That match was terrible, and a huge spot fest, and the spots werent even good. Its impossible to coordinate something good with that many guys. Just a lot of 2 or 3 guys fighting, and 5 guys laying on the ground for 5 minutes oversellin a clothesline or some gay shit. They should make this a 4 man match. It would make it higher profile, and of much more quality. Tell me a Jericho-Kennedy-Hardy_Benjamin MITB, wouldnt be way better than what we will end up getting? and you could probably get one or two more decent undercard matches out of the guys who wouldnt be involved out of this year. It stacks the mania card more heavily, and makes this match much higher profile and quality. The 8 man format sucks, and we will probably get another shit MITB. last years only entertaining spot is when Kennedy splashed swaggle off the ladder.

Thumbs down to 8 man format.

BDOG

03-04-2008, 12:25 AM

I don't think Kennedy will walk away with MITB this year, it would be like the WWE turning back the clock and repeating a storyline that was ment to happen and Kennedy is no John Cena.. i would expect Hardy to win the match, he should still be in the world title picture yet has to sit aside for cena, much like Edge 2 years ago when he was forced to have a match with Mick Foley instead of a rematch with Cena at WM.. He'll be in the title match at backlash garauntee it.. As for the other 3 spots.. definly Kane, i can't see him in any other fued going to wrestlemania, and if Kane is in there Big Daddy V/Henry/Khali will be there as well.. the more giants the merrier right.. and not sure about spot number 8.. i would say morrison but is ECW teasing a boring Miz V Morrison fued?? i hope not

jwhitman

03-05-2008, 04:04 PM

I really hope they put in Kane, Burke, and Morrison. If they do that then this year's Bank match will be the best. Burke is highly under appreciated, he needs a push big time. I pray that they don't throw in Khali, that would simply RUIN this match. I think Kane and Burke are sure bets, at least I hope so. They'll probably throw in either Morrison or Khali, and right now Khali is the most logical choice, sadly.

TheOneBigWill

03-05-2008, 05:09 PM

Carlito qualifies. I'm not sure why. WM wouuld be fine without him. And Cody Rhodes has been pushed harder as of late.

Is the roster that thin that they have to bulk it up with somebody as boring as Carlito? WWE appears to have forgotten how sloppy his ladder match with Jeff was.

I think W.W.E. is remembering how great some of his Triple Threat matches with Shelton Benjamin and John Morrison have been. As well as Chris Jericho.

I think the next spots will definately go to John Morrison, and possibly C.M. Punk. Why? Because we've passed the point of having everyone in the match seen as a likely choice to ever win. Carlito? Shelton Benjamin? No, no chance what so ever. So why not add two more guys that would likely be great for ladder matches. I especially want John Morrison involved.

jwhitman

03-06-2008, 04:04 PM

Anyways, I hope and I pray they don't put in Khali or Sentino. I'm really praying they put in Burke, Kane, and Morrison. Does anybody agree with me that's who they should put in?

TheOneBigWill

03-06-2008, 04:38 PM

why in the world do they feel the need to just constantly THROW a bunch of guys at this event???

I'm definatey sure the only reason its with Eight Superstars, is so they can allow for more undercard wrestlers (Carlito, Shelton Benjamin) to have a spot on the Wrestlemania card, without feeling neglected.

I'm all for a Raw v. Smackdown v. E.C.W. Battle Royal to have the remaining roster not currently in a match, battle it out in a 20 man match. But I agree that when its a match as High Profile as Money In The Bank, where the winner gets a World Heavyweight Championship opportunity, they truly need to place ONLY legit Superstars that have a decent chance of being seen as worthy.

The last years MITB was an 8 man, and it was a peice of shit. That match was terrible, and a huge spot fest, and the spots werent even good. Its impossible to coordinate something good with that many guys. Just a lot of 2 or 3 guys fighting, and 5 guys laying on the ground for 5 minutes oversellin a clothesline or some gay shit.

I completely agree that last year's MITB was shit. By far the worst of all of them, and because of everything you said. You had 2 or 3 guys fighting in the ring, when the other 5 were over selling being injured from a clothesline, or drop kick.

I also agree that its incredibly hard to coordinate anything with more than 4 guys. However, I think 6 guys is a perfect alternative. Four is almost too less, and 8 is way too much.

They should make this a 4 man match. It would make it higher profile, and of much more quality. Tell me a Jericho-Kennedy-Hardy_Benjamin MITB, wouldnt be way better than what we will end up getting? and you could probably get one or two more decent undercard matches out of the guys who wouldnt be involved out of this year.

The reason I don't like it being a Fatal Four Way set-up, is because its not unique. The Money In The Bank match has a unique feel to it, for being nothing more than your stereo-typical ladder match. As such, it needs a unique number of individuals. Perhaps thats why they even pushed it to 8, since NO other match around holds 8 Superstars. (short of it being a Tag Team match of some kind)

I agree that to be honest, Chris Jericho, Mr. Kennedy, Jeff Hardy and Shelton Benjamin would tear the house down. And you can only have so many names not currently being used, to be seen as worthy contenders. However, I think Carlito, and hopefully even John Morrison are great additions to the MITB match.. because each guy has the ability to be a threat off a ladder.

I want 6 guys, because I want the feeling in a ladder match with high risk spots like what we used to get with Edge/Christian v. Dudleyz v. Hardyz. I think thats why they have 6 guys filling the slot. Well, did, until the botched it with adding 2 more.

It stacks the mania card more heavily, and makes this match much higher profile and quality. The 8 man format sucks, and we will probably get another shit MITB. last years only entertaining spot is when Kennedy splashed swaggle off the ladder.

Thumbs down to 8 man format.

Look at what you're saying though. Would you truly wanna cut out the lesser guys. (Carlito for example) Only to place them into another match? What would it be. Carlito and Santino v. Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes. I definately would rather see the talented Carlito, at least hit 3 big moves in a ladder match.. than sit through a 5-10 minute match with him, along with the other 3.

To be honest, if John Morrison doesn't get in.. then I hope him and Miz defend the Tag Team Championships in some type of Triple Threat match against Jesse and Festus and Deuce and Domino, or a Tag Team Tormoil match. However, you and I both know W.W.E. likely won't have a single Tag Team match on their Mania card.

So I'd rather see Morrison, who has proven to be great in ladder matches, be entered in as another name.

The ONLY way this match will suck worse than last year's, is if they add in names like The Great Khali, or Mark Henry, or Big Daddy V. Guys you know damn well aren't climbing a ladder. So why should they even be involved.

Last year's sucked, because it was basically W.W.E. dropping the ball on a possible Edge v. Randy Orton classic. Which blew, in my opinion. That match could've stole the show. But no, they had to blow Edge away with a stupid injury angle, and waste Orton out into simply disappearing into the match.

mark4life

03-09-2008, 10:43 AM

Fratelli

03-09-2008, 11:04 AM

I'm definatey sure the only reason its with Eight Superstars, is so they can allow for more undercard wrestlers (Carlito, Shelton Benjamin) to have a spot on the Wrestlemania card, without feeling neglected.

I'm all for a Raw v. Smackdown v. E.C.W. Battle Royal to have the remaining roster not currently in a match, battle it out in a 20 man match. But I agree that when its a match as High Profile as Money In The Bank, where the winner gets a World Heavyweight Championship opportunity, they truly need to place ONLY legit Superstars that have a decent chance of being seen as worthy.

I completely agree that last year's MITB was shit. By far the worst of all of them, and because of everything you said. You had 2 or 3 guys fighting in the ring, when the other 5 were over selling being injured from a clothesline, or drop kick.

I also agree that its incredibly hard to coordinate anything with more than 4 guys. However, I think 6 guys is a perfect alternative. Four is almost too less, and 8 is way too much.

The reason I don't like it being a Fatal Four Way set-up, is because its not unique. The Money In The Bank match has a unique feel to it, for being nothing more than your stereo-typical ladder match. As such, it needs a unique number of individuals. Perhaps thats why they even pushed it to 8, since NO other match around holds 8 Superstars. (short of it being a Tag Team match of some kind)

I agree that to be honest, Chris Jericho, Mr. Kennedy, Jeff Hardy and Shelton Benjamin would tear the house down. And you can only have so many names not currently being used, to be seen as worthy contenders. However, I think Carlito, and hopefully even John Morrison are great additions to the MITB match.. because each guy has the ability to be a threat off a ladder.

I want 6 guys, because I want the feeling in a ladder match with high risk spots like what we used to get with Edge/Christian v. Dudleyz v. Hardyz. I think thats why they have 6 guys filling the slot. Well, did, until the botched it with adding 2 more.

Look at what you're saying though. Would you truly wanna cut out the lesser guys. (Carlito for example) Only to place them into another match? What would it be. Carlito and Santino v. Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes. I definately would rather see the talented Carlito, at least hit 3 big moves in a ladder match.. than sit through a 5-10 minute match with him, along with the other 3.

To be honest, if John Morrison doesn't get in.. then I hope him and Miz defend the Tag Team Championships in some type of Triple Threat match against Jesse and Festus and Deuce and Domino, or a Tag Team Tormoil match. However, you and I both know W.W.E. likely won't have a single Tag Team match on their Mania card.

So I'd rather see Morrison, who has proven to be great in ladder matches, be entered in as another name.

The ONLY way this match will suck worse than last year's, is if they add in names like The Great Khali, or Mark Henry, or Big Daddy V. Guys you know damn well aren't climbing a ladder. So why should they even be involved.

Last year's sucked, because it was basically W.W.E. dropping the ball on a possible Edge v. Randy Orton classic. Which blew, in my opinion. That match could've stole the show. But no, they had to blow Edge away with a stupid injury angle, and waste Orton out into simply disappearing into the match.

i agree wwe missed out on a gr8 match orton vs edge but i think that edge had a broken jaw and they didnt want him to miss out thats why the played up an injury angle.

wlannon

03-09-2008, 04:04 PM

Just read that MVP just won a MITB match qualifier against Jaime Noble at a house show. I'm kinda disappointed that they won't have his title defended against Matt Hardy at Mania. Maybe they will push it till Backlash. Hopefully though Matt will find his spot on the card, possibly in the MITB if he can put his body through this match.

they should hold off on bringing matt back until mania. if they have mvp climbing the ladder and have matt run out and hit with a chair or push him off to help jeff win, that would continue the feud, since mvp put matt out of action. then he would be so pissed matt cost him the title shot he defends his us title at backlash and after that moves on to main event possibly.

Bud78

03-09-2008, 04:35 PM

I almost threw up today when I saw MVP in MITB. The only two titles that will be defended at Wrestlemania with be the world titles, unless by some miracle they stick a tag title match in there. What has happened to this company, people complained about two many title 6 years ago, that may have been true, but at least most of the matches meant something.

a7xoff

03-09-2008, 05:45 PM

NWTwrestling

03-09-2008, 06:24 PM

I can't beleive that WWE chose MVP to be in the MITB Ladder Match. I wanted to see Matt Hardy make his return to challenge him for the United States Championship... but at least all the MITB participants are good in-ring performers. My prediction is either Shelton Benjamin or Jeff Hardy. Either way, we can expect something amazing from 'The Legend Thriller' Jeff Hardy.

JBK2008

03-09-2008, 06:39 PM

Ok now it's Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, and now MVP in the MITB match. Three spots left. Hmm 4 Raw guys are in and 1 ECW guy. Hmm...well How about another ECW and 2 Smackdown! guys right?!? Hell at this point I really don't care. 8 people is by far too many people in this match. Stick with 6, even though it'll be 8 from now on. Why don't you just put two contracts up there too!

Nah, this is a good match. I've always been a fan. Well since there are already 4 Raw guys in, I'm pretty sure that's it for them, so for the final 3 spots, I'm gonna go with 3 of these 5 guys...

1. CM Punk ( if the ECW title isn't put on the line, he'll be in it)
2. Kane ( he's gotta be in 'Mania for God's sake. He's such a good worker)
3. John Morrison ( more talented than Punk, and he's wrestled with ladders)
4. Stevie Richards ( the company is giving him some sort of push, why not???)
5. Great Khali ( Vince loves his big men, and hey if can can be in one, why
not Khali???

mark4life

03-09-2008, 07:55 PM

[QUOTE=JBK2008;384142]Ok now it's Jeff Hardy, Chris Jericho, Shelton Benjamin, Carlito, and now MVP in the MITB match. Three spots left. Hmm 4 Raw guys are in and 1 ECW guy. Hmm...well How about another ECW and 2 Smackdown! guys right?!? Hell at this point I really don't care. 8 people is by far too many people in this match. Stick with 6, even though it'll be 8 from now on. Why don't you just put two contracts up there too!

Actually there are 2 spots remaining. Ken Kennedy is also in the match if you haven't heard yet. I would like to see possibly Matt Hardy & Kane added in there in the next few weeks.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-09-2008, 08:16 PM

Wow, I guess its official then...someone does not want Matt Hardy to have the US title, lol. Look at what's been going on with the feud. They were heading towards a match for several weeks, dragging it out with competitions and everything, then MVP has the "health problems" and, instead of taking it easy, they book them to win the tag titles. Matt can't compete in his Cyber Sunday match for the title. Several more weeks go by. They finally lose the tag team titles and are booked against each other at Survivor Series...and they decide to make it seem like Matt's hurt instead of competing. Matt's scheduled to "heal" from these wounds, and has a legitimate health problem. He's supposed to come back at the Royal Rumble, so they decide to fake-injure him again. He's scheduled to come back and win it at Wrestlemania, and MVP is in the Money in the Bank match. Haha..I'm beginning to think we're NEVER going to see Hardy take the title from MVP.

Ironic, though, isn't it? Jeff Hardy needs to lose the IC title to cement his status as a main event star. MVP needs to lose the US title to cement his status as a main event star. MATT Hardy needs to win the US title to finally give himself some credibility. So one Hardy doesn't need it, MVP doesn't need it, the other Hardy really does need it, but nothing's happening. Lol. Poor Matt, he must've seriously pissed someone off.

But now that MVP is in this match, there's 2 things to talk about:
1. He stands a better chance at using the briefcase in the next year, as he's clearly a main event star in the making. So now it turned from "only Hardy or Kennedy" to adding MVP in at the equal plane. Obviously Carlito has no shot, Benjamin doesn't need it to challenge for the ECW title as nobody cares about that anyway, and Jericho's a main event star already so it would be a waste. Someone like Morrison could really use it, but they'd be more willing to push Hardy, MVP, or Kennedy over him I think.

2. If MVP is in the match and isn't supposed to win, and they want to drag out his feud with Matt even more, then we might see Matt involved in the match to prevent MVP from winning - which means we get their match at Backlash (which REALLY means one of them gets injured or they have a tag team match at Backlash, not a US title match lol).

So I have to think #2 is the more likely option, though I'd rather just get it over with and give the title to Hardy. I'm not a huge fan of Matt...I think Jeff's more talented...but what else is Matt seriously going to do? If he doesn't win the US title, he'd have to team up with Shannon Moore and go for his 98th tag title lol.

TheOneBigWill

03-09-2008, 10:56 PM

Wow, so MVP is in this match now? Gimme a break, so what this means is that neither the US or IC titles will be defended at WM. I could see one of them not being defended, but I was really looking forward to a Matt Hardy vs MVP title match. *sigh* Oh well... I seriously doubt that MVP will win this match. I'm thinking that it will either be Jeff Hardy, or Kennedy. This match will either be great or terrible, there will be no inbetween. With the amount of good mid carders they have right now, it almost looks like there is no way that WWE could mess it up... Do keep in mind though... It is WWE...

Look at the bright side though. Matt Hardy will almost definately be added into the Money In The Bank match now, to fill one of the remaining two spots. And this year's version is shaping up with the top Superstars who deserve to compete in a ladder match setting.

Also, dispite the disappointment of the United States Championship and the Intercontinental Championship, neither, being defended. For as long as the Money In The Bank match has been around, I honestly think the Intercontinental Champion has always been involved. It gives the match a more realistic feel to it, because the midcard Champion for each brand is the unofficial #1. contender to begin with.

I love M.V.P. being involved in this match, as everyone has been wanting to see him in a ladder match for sometime. And as I said, I think Matt Hardy will make his return at Mania, if for nothing else than to keep M.V.P. from winning. (similar to Jeff Hardy taking Edge out, last year)

Hacksaw Highway

03-09-2008, 11:21 PM

I assume Matt and Elijah will be the last 2 people, but maybe not Elijah. Matt's a lock IMO, and I'd love to see Elijah in there. They can't seem to figure out how to use him, he was a manager, a stable leader, a main eventer, a jobber, and now they don't use him. It's a waste of talent.

bioshock

03-10-2008, 12:26 AM

Wow, so MVP is in this match now? Gimme a break, so what this means is that neither the US or IC titles will be defended at WM. I could see one of them not being defended, but I was really looking forward to a Matt Hardy vs MVP title match. *sigh* Oh well... I seriously doubt that MVP will win this match. I'm thinking that it will either be Jeff Hardy, or Kennedy. This match will either be great or terrible, there will be no inbetween. With the amount of good mid carders they have right now, it almost looks like there is no way that WWE could mess it up... Do keep in mind though... It is WWE...

Whats new...Another WWE PPV where the IC & US titles arent defended. At this point they should just get rid of the titles, along with the ECW title. And to think back in the 80s and 90s the IC and US was as huge of a deal as any title, now there about as big of a joke as the 6 man tag team titles were back in WCW when they lasted a few months....LOL

But they sure do love to talk up MVP and how long he's had the US title, how about bragging up that he defends it once in a blue moon. Ditto with Jeff Hardy. LOL and to be truthful I wouldnt be shocked if they had some title for title matches at some PPV's in the near future, just to get rid of the 2 belts (hey they did it b4 with HHH vs Kane).

-On to the topic lol, MVP does make it a better match, but I still think its going to be another lackluster MITB and prolly the shortest match on the card besides the womens crap shoot match lol.

Italian MVP

03-10-2008, 02:38 AM

Whats new...Another WWE PPV where the IC & US titles arent defended. At this point they should just get rid of the titles, along with the ECW title. And to think back in the 80s and 90s the IC and US was as huge of a deal as any title, now there about as big of a joke as the 6 man tag team titles were back in WCW when they lasted a few months....LOL

But they sure do love to talk up MVP and how long he's had the US title, how about bragging up that he defends it once in a blue moon. Ditto with Jeff Hardy. LOL and to be truthful I wouldnt be shocked if they had some title for title matches at some PPV's in the near future, just to get rid of the 2 belts (hey they did it b4 with HHH vs Kane).

-On to the topic lol, MVP does make it a better match, but I still think its going to be another lackluster MITB and prolly the shortest match on the card besides the womens crap shoot match lol.

How can you say its going to be another lackluster match? IMO, this is going to be the best ladder match in a while, look who is in it. Jeff who is a veteran at ladder matches, Kennedy who did pretty well last year, Benjamin, who freaken made money in the bank in the first one by doing that running on the ladder move, Carlito who did good against Hardy in a ladder match not long ago, Chris jericho who also is great at ladder matches then mvp who is a great talent, then if they add Matt who is another veteran at ladder matches you have got one heck of a match. I agree, that the match should only have 6 particpants, but these 8 are really good, so i dont see why your so negative about seeing this match, it will be the best one so far!

Rusty

03-10-2008, 03:44 AM

Adding MVP to this match really pisses me off. I, like many other fans, wanted to see Matt Hardy vs MVP for the United States Championship at Wrestlemania.

Hardy returned to house shows this weekend. So if hes fit to wrestle, why not continue his fued with MVP at Wrestlemania.

But no, MVP is now added to the MITB ladder match. It would surprise me if MVP actually wins it as I think Hardy or Kennedy should and WILL win it. If Hardy vs MVP takes place at Backlash, it just wont be the same. This match IS Wrestlemania worthy, so if Hardy is going to win the U.S title it needs to happen at this ppv and not next months.

Regarding the MITB match, I think this years is shaping up to be pretty darn good. I thought last years was great so I expect this years to be just as good, if not better.

Danmen001

03-10-2008, 04:45 AM

wlannon

03-10-2008, 05:34 AM

I am really looking forward to this match. As always they add the amazing factor to wrestlemania. Out of all the participants in the match, IMO Jeff Hardy will pick up the win, and finally win a title. I also noticed something interesting in the Highlight Reel when Jeff was speaking. He ALMOST said wwe championship......but then he stopped, and just said championship, which means it looks like the plans are for him to win the wrold heighyweight title.....most likey as a heel, it the turn on the Reel was an actual turn.

i noticed that about what he said as well. not sure if it means anything, but it would be interesting. i dont think he will win it as a heel though. i think he would cash it on edge the same way edge cashed it in. that would definately be a surprise. no one would expect face to pull something like that and think of the pop he would get from the crowd for doing it.

but with the 6 already listed and 3 weeks before mania, i dont know how they're going to have the qualifying matches, but i have this sick feeling that khali will be in it for some unknown reason. they gotta have someone stinkin up the pay per view. i'd like to see john morrison in it, but i could see a triple threat for the tag titles with him and the miz against jesse and festus and dreamer and colin delaney. so the other 2 will be khali and hopefully kane. he deserves a match at mania, and could add something to the mitb match like he did last time he was in it.

Mighty NorCal

03-10-2008, 06:00 AM

well, seems as if two stupid ass things have happened now. Not only will MVP be wasted in this mish mash cluster fuck, but Jaimie Noble will NOT be involved in it now. Shouldve been other way around. MVP should be doing something better, and Jaimie Noble would be VERY entertaining in the MITB match. This match is seeming to become a constant source of annoyance to me lol. Eithe rthey shouldve put Noble in it, and MVP do something else, OR it should just be a four way ladder match, with Hardy, Jericho, Shelton, and MVP. Now THAT would be good. This...will not.

If they absolutely NEED to have had an 8 man, I think they shouldve gotten Noble in there, and used MVP in the brand domination match. He is supposedly "smackdowns MVP" so they shouldve had him and Umaga in a triple threat match, with CM Punk, the ECW champion, stepping in for the third part.(please let some newb pop off with "CM Punk isnt the ECW champ dummy duuuuuurrr"...I know that you moron. OBVIOUSLY he would have to win it sometime between now and then for my scenario to play out...go emerge from somewere) But no. They want to do a bunch of dumb shit, and will probably even put the ECW champ IN MITB, and fuck up like they did at Royal Rumble. So now MVP will be wasted, in match that will probably be as ugly as last year, and Jaimie Noble misses the chance to be damn entertaining, and get even more over. ugh.

Hopefully Kane and Morrison get in this. I think they could both provide some entertainment, playing their respective roles to this mismash spot fest crap. And to think I LOVED the first two MITB.

bioshock

03-10-2008, 09:28 AM

How can you say its going to be another lackluster match? IMO, this is going to be the best ladder match in a while, look who is in it. Jeff who is a veteran at ladder matches, Kennedy who did pretty well last year, Benjamin, who freaken made money in the bank in the first one by doing that running on the ladder move, Carlito who did good against Hardy in a ladder match not long ago, Chris jericho who also is great at ladder matches then mvp who is a great talent, then if they add Matt who is another veteran at ladder matches you have got one heck of a match. I agree, that the match should only have 6 particpants, but these 8 are really good, so i dont see why your so negative about seeing this match, it will be the best one so far!

Because I see WWE in another way then you do, you tell me whens the last time you seen a good ECW title match at a PPV? how many matches besides the main event WWE & HC title matches have stole the show? Well not many. I look at it like this, was the 2nd 3rd and 4th TLC matches ever close to as good as the 1st? No because they made the match a joke, by just throwing guys like Kane in the match. So sorry if I just don't think the match will amount to anything, all I figure is they all do some fighting, everyone hits there finisher, they play around with the ladder, then from there they do 2-3 big spots and the match is over. At the end of the night I don't think it will go down as the best match thats my 2 cents. lol hell wasn't MITB at WM23 the 1st match on the card? I mean what does that say about it?

jwhitman

03-10-2008, 10:05 AM

The only reason why I don't like MVP being in the MITB match is that Matt Hardy will be in it for the THIRD straight time, I'm getting sick and tired of seeing him in this match. They need to add some new guys to this match like Elijah Burke and John Morrison, but this is WWE and they hardly ever use REAL talent.

Deadman747

03-10-2008, 10:35 AM

i no every1 is disapointed that MVP is in MITB.But maybe he wonnt go in the match! i mean he qualified at a HOUSE SHOW! remember last time the said jimmy wang yang and shannon moore qualified 4 royal rumble? well did u also remember that they werent even in the rumble? so every1 thats disapionted keep ur hopes up!

HartsyThaiFood

03-10-2008, 10:38 AM

So there's a detail of this match that I am curious to see how they pull it off and that is the hanging of the belt, itself.

Typically for ladder matches, the belt/briefcase is suspended from the rafters of the arena. But being that this is an outdoor arena, there will be no rafters to hang it by. So will the construct a crude scaffolding around the ring for this match? If so, could we possibly see someone scale the scaffolding to win the match? Perhaps a Hardy jump from above the belt? The possibilities for this are numerous and would add a little more to a match that we've seen done numerous times.

Or what if it rains? That would make this match terribly dangerous. One could easily slip off of a wet ladder. I think there are a lot of X-factors going in to this match that make it sort of interesting and will be a good way for them to more than likely to kick off the PPV.

Cage917r

03-10-2008, 11:37 AM

I have thought about the fact of how it would work with it being outside too. I read that they are going to try to build something to go over the ring in case it rains, basically it would be high enough to not get in the way, but would stop the rain from getting in the ring, if they do that, they could hang the case from there somehow. If not they would have to build a device to hang from, I wouldn't want somebody to clime it though, it is supposed to be a ladder match.
When it comes to MVP being in the match, I am dissappointed because Mania' would be the perfect place to cultivate the Hardy/MVP fued, but i guess they are going to wait to start that up again. I hope that Matt isn't in the match, maybe he will interfere and cost MVP the match and help Jeff win that is possible.

jwhitman

03-10-2008, 01:20 PM

I also hope that Matt isn't in the match. It would be a better if he made a shocking return at Mania and costs MVP the match, but Matt will definitely be in the Bank this year AGAIN. There's so many more deserving people to be put in the match like Burke or Morrison. I predict Matt will return this Friday on Smackdown and be the final participant in the Bank.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-10-2008, 02:38 PM

Even though I think its stupid that they're using MVP in the MITB instead of a title defense, that doesn't particularly screw up the MITB match itself. Think about the people involved:
1. Jeff Hardy
2. Chris Jericho
3. Mr. Kennedy
4. Shelton Benjamin
5. Carlito
6. MVP
7. Matt Hardy
8. Kane / Burke / Morrison

Would you rather have Khali? Lol. That's 8 solid performers (though I think Carlito stands out as the mildest). Morrison would be amazing in the match, Burke's pretty good, and Kane's still got a job for a reason. We should be getting possibly the best Money in the Bank match yet. Yeah, it sucks Hardy/MVP isn't happening, especially in place of the shitty matches like Mayweather's, Finlay/JBL, and Bunny Mania, but maybe that'll just mean that the MITB match will be longer...and we all know its a shining spot in the ppv.

As far as the weather issue, I'd assume they'd start out with the ladder match first. Strong opener, get the most dangerous thing out of the way before it rains, and it allows you to deconstruct whatever you build to hold the briefcase up afterwards.

Y_2_aJ

03-10-2008, 06:42 PM

Anyone else interested as to how the briefcase will be hung above the ring? They could hang it off the apparent raftings that are to be erected around the ring (from the rumours I've heard) but cant see any other way to really do it.

Oh, unless just for the WWE's India popularity, they could maybe have Khali in the middle of the ring to suspend the case - although someone would have to make sure he held it up the right way, unlike his World Heavyweight Title

wweman1

03-11-2008, 12:38 AM

it would be very interesting if it rained and would make the match even more dangerous. They mite build like a roof structure over the ring or something to stop rain. i rekon they will have cables or something to hold the case above the ring. on whos going to win it possible jeff hardy or jericho. Id perfer chris to win because he is a main eventer and i just cant see wwe giving jeff the belt

Mighty NorCal

03-11-2008, 01:15 AM

wlannon

03-11-2008, 01:51 AM

Welp, I think tonights RAW made it fairly obvious who is going to win this.

Jeff Hardy.

Are they gonna have Jericho, who JUST won the IC belt win it? NO. Will they have Kennedy, who they could obviously give a fuck about at the moment, and who could have a wonderfull IC title feud with Jericho win it? NO. Carlito, who is a fuckin loser? NO. Benjamin, who will probably put on the best preformance, but who will probably never bea heavyweight title contender, and who CERTAINLEY isnt right now win it? NO.

Or will it be Jeff Hardy, the guy who they have spent months grooming for the main event, who just seperated himself from the mid card title, and who might be THE most over guy in the WWE right now? uuuum id say YES. If they have him just drop the IC title with no quick turn around on something big, they have just wasted all of his build over the last few months. There is only one dark horse I could possibly see winning this.

and thats MVP, who just recently qualified at a house show. The MITB, by its very nature, works better with a heel carrying it, and MVP is a PERFECT canidate to be the guy carrying it around, bragging about being Mr money in the bank, bragging about his new peice of "bling" being the breifcase. And MVP seems every bit the part of an oppurtunist, who would trade the breifcase in on a moments notice, in the champions moment of weakness. If MVP goes over Batista in this US title match, I will be thrown further into doubt. And I dont really think that the Matt Hardy feud will stop MVP from doing this. He can loose the US title but still keep momentum by having the breifcase still. I could entirely see this scenario play out, depending on how strongly they book MVP over the next couple weeks. If he is made to look weak, I am 100% sure itll be Hardy. If MVP comes in with some momentum looking strong, ill only be 75% sure itll be Hardy.

I am going to agree with you on that. I think getting the title off hardy will set up for his winning the mitb, and cementing him in the main event. the matches he has had with hbk and y2j have been some of the best matches i have seen in a long time and showed to the people that didn't think he was capable of it, that he can actually wrestle and not rely on being a "spot monkey" like they were referring to him as. i think he will hold the case for a while, and cash it against hhh or edge sometime around the end of the year. that way he can have a run with the title to see how he does before mania next year.

i am also hoping that y2j and finlay's bitch from tonight will start a feud over the ic title after the money in the bank. kennedy and y2j could be a decent feud.

Jeff Hardy they had him drop the ic title, most likely sign of him winning mitb and cementing himself as a main eventer
kennedy wont win after what happened tonight, in his home state no less.
y2j just won the ic title, so i dont think he will win mitb and will defend the title more
Carlitois only in the match because he didn't quit in december and they said they would use him more, and he whined about being in the dark match last year.
Shelton obviously wont win because he just doesnt seem to be able to handle any kind of push they give him and they never last long. look at when he beat triple h a couple years ago, should have been the start of something big.
mvp only option other than jeff to win, but i think they are going to do a matt hardy/mvp feud again after mania heading into backlash for the us title so that kinda leaves him out in my opinion.

not sure who else will go in it, but who else on any roster would have a shot at winning?

Y 2 Jake

03-11-2008, 08:17 AM

With Hardy out I think it's pretty obvious Kennedy will win it. I still don't think MVP will be involved. So he's my choice.

Without Hardy though this match will really be missing something. I can't imagine Carlito will do a big bump that'll nearly cripple him.

psykohurricane

03-11-2008, 08:18 AM

So now that Jeff Hardy was officially suspended and taken out of the money in the bank match, who do you think is going to replace him?

Here a list of wrestler i would like to see him replace him

Brian Kendrick: Brian is one of the most exciting wrestler on the raw roster the only problem with this pick is that he's pretty look like a jobber right now so is chance of being in this match is pretty slim.

Paul burchill: He a guy that could use this type of exposure to get his character over and he a pretty good wrestler.

Matt HArdy: This would be the most logical move since MVP is already in the match anyway and the plan for the last to spot are to have Kane and Great Khali. So with is brother Jeff out, this could be MAtt Chance to make a big return.

Elijah Burke: I Know that this guy has been used to get some of the other wrestler over on ECW but he'S a talented wrestler and he would bring so much to this match.

Stevie Richards: If there was ever a guy that deserve to have a high profile match at wrestlemania it'S this guy. He'S been in with the company since the attitude era and has been loyal to the wwe since he'S started. What a better way to reward him then giving him a spot in this match.

Also, now that Jeff Hardy is out of the money in the bank ladder match, who is the odds on favorite to win this match. I think that it's either going to be Chris Jericho or MR kennedy time to shine and either one of them while win the match.

THE Madcap

03-11-2008, 09:59 AM

It really is a shame Jeff is missing Wrestlemania and this match. But really WWE has to think hard about who's going to replace him. Remember this match in it's simplest form is a No1 contender match for the prize strap in wrestling. I sure as hell wouldnt like to see Burke, Richards, Kendrick, Carlito, Khali, Kane or Burchill as no1 contender. This match should be midcarders who need that final push and I would love to see Benjamin win it. My picks would be Kennedy or MVP but I'm not convinced any of these can wear the main gold without a serious push. IMO they should leave Jeff's replacement as a surprise right up to Wrestlemania

kszonew

03-11-2008, 10:14 AM

With three spots left I say give them to Matt Hardy, CM Punk & Tommy Dreamer or like someone else said, Stevie Richards deserves a chance. I'd rather see Dreamer, but Richards would be a welcome addition instead. There may not be a ECW title match so this would be the best way to get Punk onto the card. Matt could be a surprise entrant or qualify beforehand. Not sure if its a good idea to put a guy who just came back from a legit injury in a match where crazy bumps and the chance of actual injury if something goes wrong is a good idea - but he can always take it easy. Dreamer or Richards would get a nice pop and are both guys who have been loyal to the the company. Richards since 1999/2000 or so and Dreamer since 2001.

They better not even think of putting Khali in this thing. It sucks that talents like Morrison and Burke are being left off, but sadly that's what happens when the company abandons the midcard in favor of one match to push someone out of it. They could possibly make MITB 10 people, but shit, 8 is already pushing it a lot so best leave it at 8.

Mr-excitement

03-11-2008, 10:51 AM

Welp, I think tonights RAW made it fairly obvious who is going to win this.

Jeff Hardy

Looks like you spoke too soon, Jeff is out for 60 days. I would put money on Kennedy winning this one. I don't think the WWE should put the title on Jeff anytime soon, he has proven to be unreliable and if he were the champ and they had to release him it would be a MAJOR embarassment.

jasu

03-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Matt Hardy should be a surprise replacement over Jeff in the MITB, and right now i dont think anyone in the match is ready for a big title push. Kennedy just got beat up by finlay, Y2J isnt ready imo, Jeffs gone, MVP has been losing to batista week after week, and everyone else isnt ready for that big of a push, so my idea is to have Matt freakin Hardy win the MITB but instead of cashing it in for the heavytitle .... he cashes it in to take the US title from his enemy MVP ... i think thats a better idea then having the MITB go stale year after year with the same scenario ... winner cashes in and wins the wwe or heavyweight championship

Slim Pickns

03-11-2008, 01:21 PM

mattitude2007

03-11-2008, 01:35 PM

I now agree that whoever wins this years MITB should lose their title match. It seemed Jeff was lined up to win it and cash it in over the summer, with him out why not just have one of the lower tier guys like Benjamin shock the crowd at Mania and then lose the title shot against Undertaker/Edge or Cena/Orton/HHH a month later. You could have him put the shot on the line at Backlash, win, and then lose to the champ the following week.

This will give them something for Shelton to do at Backlash and not force them to give someone a title reign that they weren't expecting to give them.

Well I disagree. Why not let whoever of the big three wins it (Jericho, KK, MVP) hold on to the briefcase for awhile and build them up until they are ready to cash it in?

I'd love to see Kennedy win it again, then on the following Raw state that he decided against cashing it in at the end of Mania, and wanted to do things right.

Slim Pickns

03-11-2008, 01:42 PM

Well I disagree. Why not let whoever of the big three wins it (Jericho, KK, MVP) hold on to the briefcase for awhile and build them up until they are ready to cash it in?

I'd love to see Kennedy win it again, then on the following Raw state that he decided against cashing it in at the end of Mania, and wanted to do things right.

I may go for that if its MVP and he hangs on for a while keeping people in suspense, but for the most part I think it should be over with rather quickly. If Shelton or Carltio win it will be more of a shock at Mania. Then they can defend it against someone at Backlash who is in contention for the Title but still win. Then when they cash it in people will think they have a chance but will lose. Then we can have some old school title feuds in the summer. I guess I'm just not a MITB fan.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-11-2008, 01:50 PM

Way to go Jeff. You just shat on your push once again. I'm a fan of Hardy, and I was always rooting for him to become a top star, but come on man, this is pathetic.

So now we have:

1. Kennedy
2. Jericho
3. Benjamin
4. Carlito
5. (MVP?)
6. (Matt Hardy?)
7. (?)
8. (?)

Our contenders are: Khali (please God no), Kane, Morrison, Burke, and then some people that I can't see having a shot.

Hopefully, it'll be Morrison and Burke, Morrison and Kane, or Kane and Burke.

Odds on favorite, now? Well..

1. Kennedy - He definitely is in the prime position, but if he does win it, they painted themselves into a corner by having him say he'd cash it in. This is tricky, unless they want us to just forget about it.
2. Jericho - I can't see him winning it. It would be a waste. Jericho is a legitimate main event star and he's one of those guys that could just challenge for a top title and it would go over. HBK, Cena, HHH, Undertaker...these guys don't need to win King of the Ring tournaments and such, right? Jericho doesn't need the MITB.
3. Benjamin - Well, supposedly, they've lost steam on pushing him. He'd never win the WHC or WWE titles at this stage in his career, but he COULD win the ECW title. Idk...better options.
4. Carlito - Yeah right. Lol. Carlito has a solid shot at being the next IC champ or potentially the next tag team champ, but no shot at the WWE/WHC titles. A switch from him over to ECW though, that could work.
5. MVP - Future main event star. Doesn't need to cash it in at Wrestlemania. Guaranteed a title in the next coming year(s) if he keeps his upward momentum. He may just win.
6. Matt Hardy - This guy can't even find his way into the US title. No shot whatsoever.
7/8. Kane, Burke, Morrison - Kane doesn't need it as he won't be winning any titles anytime soon aside from possibly the ECW title, and he could outright challenge at any time. Burke, I still feel, should be gunning for the IC title at Raw, as he's not solid enough yet for a top title. Morrison needs to regain his momentum, so he might win it and challenge for the WHC or something.

In the long run...Kennedy, MVP, or Morrison are in the best positions to move up to the main event. Benjamin and Carlito have good shots at using their MITB to win the ECW title, but nothing else. Jericho and Kane don't need it. Matt Hardy and Burke have no shot. And for God's sake, if Khali is in it, you've just fucked up the only match at Wrestlemania 24 that doesn't have a predictable ending or is going to be incredibly boring.

elijah ecw express

03-11-2008, 02:46 PM

with mvp being added to this match, they will need to put matt hardy in it. without jeff hardy, and maybe without kennedy in order to sell his shilliealeah shots, it will be carlito vs. jericho vs. mvp vs. hardy vs. benjamin vs.kennedy or ??? vs.??? vs.???. kane will most likely take up one spot. as for the other one or two slots: I would like to see elijah burke and either john morrison, kofi kingston, chuck palumbo, or even mark henry.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-11-2008, 03:06 PM

You know what I'd like to see happen with this year's Money in the Bank?

Multiple people.

What have we had in the past? Edge wins and cashes it in while a champ is down, so he wins the belt. RVD wins, gets himself a match, wins the belt. Kennedy wins, has an injury, loses it to Edge, who cashes it in while a champ is down, so he wins the belt.

You can only give it to a heel to "opportunistically cash it in" so many times without it becoming stale. Of course, you can give it to Edge a million times to do it, as that's in his character, but if Kennedy/MVP/etc did it, they'd look like they were just copying his good idea (which I'd do, cause its smart, but still, we need some originality).

So this year I'd like to see a legitimate NEED for the case. As we know Jeff was most likely going to win, this puts a damper on their plans. Jericho has the IC title now, which means he could feud with the likes of Kennedy, Carlito, and maybe others after the draft, so he's got a purpose once more. But you know what would be interesting? Several switches.

Say someone like Shelton wins. A week later, someone challenges him for the briefcase and wins. Someone challenges that person and wins it. So on and so forth. That way, over the course of the next year, they switch it up time and time again, and we are kept on our toes about who is going to cash it in (instead of just waiting for the time MVP or Kennedy or someone uses it). This gives the WWE time to figure out their plans and then go with whatever they want. Say 3 months down the line, they want Morrison to win it and challenge for a belt. Doesn't seem likely? Well, look at what happened with the ECW title, lol, things change. Switch it back and forth, make it almost like the hunger for a title, and you could get some decent feuds out of it.

Slim Pickns

03-11-2008, 04:48 PM

Now that I think about it, putting the case on the line is pointless. I can see doing it once against a rival or for something else, but not multiple times just for the hell of it. Remember when RVD won and he put it on the line against Shelton for the IC title? Why would you put your World Title shot on the line for a shot at the IC Belt? It makes very little sense when you think about it.

Something like when Edge wanted Matt Hardy to leave RAW works better because you would get the sense that Edge would give up a World Title just to get rid of Matt. Defending it for the hell of it just because someone challenged you seems dumb and makes this match more pointless than it already is.

A.J.

03-11-2008, 05:03 PM

Seeing now that Jeff is the most stupid man walking teh earth i see no other option to win this thing than MVP. But I think if the WWE can slide Matt hardy in that it work perfect. Sure you might have others look bad but you can have it where Matt is bout to grab the briefcase and MVP us the US championship to hit Matt upside the head and of course Matt falls and MVP grabs the briefcase. Doing this adds more to their feud and carrys it at Mania,

Now after what happened at Mania have Matt challenge MVP to a match for the MITB and MVP gets all cocky says, " Matt you cant never beat hell you cant beat for the US and after Maina not even fro the MITB". Then have Matt challenge him to two fall match at Backlash with 1st fall for the US gold and have Matt win that. Then the send fall be fore the MITB and have MVP win that. He can go n that he don't care the US gold as he has bigger thing in his future thanks to the MITB briefcase.

I think idea works best as we get to see Hardy and MVP at mania in a way and they finally end their feud at Backlash in a 2 fall match with the 1st fall for the US gold and 2nd fall for the MITB. Really everyone else in the MITB will just be extra bodies as I hope Matt and MVP get most of the shine in the MITB if Matt gets in.

jasu

03-11-2008, 05:42 PM

BDOG

03-11-2008, 06:05 PM

I think we're going to see another Chavo screwjob of CM punk on ecw leading into a match at wrestlemania... maybe extreme rules??

Big Daddy V needs to be in this match.. he has nothing else going for him and is literally to big of a monster to be ignored.... then again what do we do about khali, kane and mark henry??

teamratedcds

03-11-2008, 06:06 PM

BDOG

03-11-2008, 06:27 PM

now that jeff hardy is out of it im going wit the winner from last years mitb hes bound to have a world title shot this year and hopefully if he wins he will cash it in after the whc match or the wwe championship at mania it would be great cause id ont want to c taker or cena walk out of wrestlemania again a champion but hopefully he would chose the wwe title we want taker to go undefeated at mania forever

The problem with this is that if kennedy does infact win MITB do you honestly think they will let him end the streak of the Undertaker?? i dont think so.. and trips H is the favourite for the Raw main event, there is NO WAY triple h will drop the title..... i think kennedy will end up like edge last year and be taken out of the match somehow... probably from matt hardy (if he's picked) or squashed by one of the giants

Mighty NorCal

03-11-2008, 06:32 PM

well now that the fuckin FOOL jeff hardy will NOT be winning this, Ive gotta go with either MVP or Kennedy. Kennedy has jobbed hard, and was Finlays whipping boy, but a lot of times, things like that are rewarded soon after. Booker jobbed to boogie man, and was made a WHC. JBL jobbed to boogey man and was given a US title soon after. At times, for guys like these, (heels) jobbing badly and doing a spot like Kennedy did can result in a reward rather quickly.

I also think MVP is the best bet right no, becuase he qualified at a HOUSE SHOW. I think they found out about the Hardy situation, and figured out who they could hotshot the win too, so they changed the house show match to a "MITB qualifying match" with the idea of MVP winning it eventually. If not then who else?? NO ONE else in the match even makes sense to win it. It has to be MVP for the odds on favorite right now.

Father:_Polley

03-11-2008, 07:12 PM

kennedy will eithe win it because that was what he promised last year...to cash in WM24. but not after Taker. Taker was victim of the last MITB winner so i think orton will retain and lose to kennedy if he wins.

MVP's the logical choice to win it, but where does that leave the US title. Matt hardy won't take it off the MITB winner as it'll make MVP look weak as a contender.

My pick will be shelton benjamin and have him use it on ecw. waste of the stipulation but with no jeff, who knows as i reckon it was his shot

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-11-2008, 07:18 PM

CM Punk vs Big Daddy V MITB qualifying match on ecw tonight is now confirmed on WWE.com. I truly believe punk is going to win so I guess this years wrestlemania wont have a us title match or a ecw match unless chavo defends it against kane or something

If CM Punk is involved in the MITB match, then he has a good shot at winning it as well as Kennedy or MVP, as he could challenge for the WHC down the line.

As far as the ECW title goes...yeah, it sucks we might not get a defense, but really, I don't care in the long run. Chavo is too damn boring for me to give a shit about any of his matches. His long winded series with CM Punk was a bore the entire time to me. Hopefully, we'll get Chavo/Kane, Kane wins the belt, and Chavo goes back to jobbing (or better yet, put him in a tag team with someone to help better that division).

pun2003hh

03-11-2008, 08:19 PM

Apparently, there is going to be a qualifying match on SmackDown between Miz and Morrison, so adding more then likely Morrison to the mix relieves a little bit of the sting of not having Jeff Hardy in it. So lets run down the list.

1. Carlito
2. Shelton Benjamin
3. Mr. Kennedy
4. Chris Jericho
5. MVP
6. possibly CM Punk
7. possibly John Morrison

With that line up, even without Hardy, this is shaping up to be the most exciting MITB Ladder match of them all. Of the 7 men in it, 6 of them are high flyers or have the tendancies of high flyers. I am leaving MVP out of that, but he is great in the ring. I still stand by my prediction that Matt Hardy will be the final man in the match, so this year should be a great match. Still though, there is something missing without Jeff Hardy. So the question is this, with this potential list of 8, who is the favorite. I would narrow it down to Jericho, MVP, Punk, and Hardy. Of those 4, the way the booking has been going, I wouldn't be surprised to see MVP take it.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-11-2008, 09:53 PM

With the supposed "Miz versus Morrison" qualifying match (I don't check the spoilers, so idk if that's confirmed, but I'll take pun2003hh's word for it), as well as CM Punk's entrance, as well as the battle royal/ECW title shot...I think this is how things are going down:

MONEY IN THE BANK:
1. Mr. Kennedy
2. Chris Jericho
3. Shelton Benjamin
4. Carlito
5. MVP
6. CM Punk
7. John Morrison
8. Matt Hardy

*Still think that the most likely to win are Kennedy, MVP, or Punk, then Morrison, then Benjamin, then Carlito, no shot to Matt Hardy or Jericho as Jericho doesn't need it and Matt isn't ready for a main event title.

I'd have said Kane would be in this Money in the Bank match, but having Matt cost the match for MVP far outshines having Kane just job - and most likely, he'll win the battle royal and beat Chavo.

TheOneBigWill

03-12-2008, 03:11 AM

Okay, to shed some light on the recent Jeff Hardy mess. My question is this. Will they even replace him, or just let 7 guys go at it? Because while they could replace him with his Brother.. I don't think they will.

Now, as far as the possible outcome of the match. I have two likely situations that could happen. And I'd love to see either, to be honest. Although, for the record.. I'm not "World Champion" high on either at the moment.

Mr. Kennedy: One year ago, he promised the world he'd Main Event Wrestlemania 24. If Mr. Kennedy wins the MITB match, then THE Main Event is the Triple Threat match.. I can definately see either Cena or Triple H. winning.. only to have Kennedy pull an "Edge" and cash in that same night, fullfilling his promise to the world.. and becoming the W.W.E. Champion.

Seriously, they've destroyed Kennedy as of late. Either hes in line for something "shockingly huge" or they're just feeding him to midcard talent, and wasting him out. I doubt they're wasting him out, because the guy has potential.. that being said, I definately look for Mr. Kennedy to walk out on Raw the following night.. Mr. W.W.E. Champion!

M.V.P.: When you think of who could possibly take the spot that was most likely given to Jeff Hardy, then you think of who hasn't already blown a chance given to them. (like Kennedy) You turn to the next best thing, M.V.P.

Think about this for a minute. Edge and Undertaker.. Taker wins, a very tough match, that goes either way. M.V.P. cashes in suddenly, defeats the Undertaker (at Wrestlemania, mind you) and bam.. not only do you have someone doing the undoable, in defeating Undertaker on the biggest stage of them all.. but you give the nod, to a guy that can go down in history for it.. with nothing else on his plate. M.V.P.

Then, that following Smackdown, he comes out with both the United States Championship, and the World Heavyweight Championship. The set-up is there, its golden, its all on whether W.W.E. creative is smart enough to not blow this chance at a huge Mania finish. Having ANYONE cash in, in the same night, at the very end of the show.. would end the show on an explosive note because its shocking.

Danmen001

03-12-2008, 03:37 AM

I am flabbergastered as to who is going to win this now. I was of course going for Jeff Hardy, looks like that is over. Out of all the remaining participants left, and C.M who was added today. I am going to go with either MVP on Mr Kennedy on this one, although there is a chance that something surprising will happen, I couldn't be bothered thinking it throught for now.

MVP-He is bound for a title, just let him hold the case until he is ready.

KK-Pretty much same deal as MVP, excpet he will be furfilling his 'prophecy' so to speak.

Surprises- Either Matt Hardy returns and win(not likely0, or someone who you don't think would win it does.

Considerations-CM might win it, though not likely. Or wait for it:Jeff Hardy isn't actually suspended, but it is just a big play by the WWE (Ok I was joking then but can't blame me for optimism.

TheOneBigWill

03-12-2008, 03:38 AM

Next installment of "Is it Possible."

C.M. Punk/John Morrison/Midcard Talent: Why not have any of them win it? Shelton Benjamin, the "Gold Standard." C.M. Punk, John Morrison, Carlito, The Miz, anyone who's in it.. for the shock value treatment it deserves, why not just let anyone win it.

Now, hear this out. The Championship shot has always been based on either the W.W.E. Championship, or the World Heavyweight Championship. Why not let any one of those guys win the match, then cash in the shot against the E.C.W. Champion.

Think about it. You want to get that Championship over, as a legit World Heavyweight title. And the fact is, guys like Punk, Morrison, Miz, Benjamin, Carlito.. they'll never be World/W.W.E. Heavyweight calibur guys.. not YET, anyways. But Punk and Morrison have been E.C.W. Champions before. Benjamin is on his way. So why not let them take a shock value victory, and then lay claim to cashing it in on the one Championship that everyone's forgetting?!

Banes88

03-12-2008, 03:46 AM

I actually could see this as the perfect chance to get Kennedy over with the fans and turn the ending to a crappy WrestleMania into an jaw-dropping WrestleMania!

Let's say Kennedy wins the MITB, and Orton (unfortunately) retains.

Fans at home and fans in Florida are going to be pissed, but wait, here comes Kennedy!!!

Kennedy cashes in the MITB and saves WrestleMania and takes the belt from Orton =D!

Mallan

03-12-2008, 07:57 PM

If Punk wins he should be moved to Raw or SD - if not he should get the ECW title back that night by entering the battle royal and beating Chavo

TheOneBigWill

03-12-2008, 08:39 PM

If Punk wins he should be moved to Raw or SD - if not he should get the ECW title back that night by entering the battle royal and beating Chavo

This makes absolutely no sense. If Punk wins, why would he want to enter the battle royal, when he could easily cash in after Chavo faces whomever, and take on the winner? Which Punk is a face, and that won't happen.. because he'll want to be all noble about being fair with his opportunity.

As far as Punk on Raw or Smackdown goes. Hes NOT Raw material, and he'd never make it beyond the United States title picture on Smackdown. Hes too small and bland to be a World Champion on either of the major brands. He fits on E.C.W., because hes a young guy with a lot of talent. Just hardly any character or charisma.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-12-2008, 10:27 PM

As far as Punk on Raw or Smackdown goes. Hes NOT Raw material, and he'd never make it beyond the United States title picture on Smackdown. Hes too small and bland to be a World Champion on either of the major brands. He fits on E.C.W., because hes a young guy with a lot of talent. Just hardly any character or charisma.

Well, I don't know...think about it: Jeff Hardy is going to be out for 60 days (if not longer). Maybe the WWE will use this opportunity to just send Punk over to Raw to fill in that void? I can't picture Punk as the WWE/WHC champ just yet, but he's got a future ahead of him, so maybe they'll stick him in the "just above the midcard, not quite main event" position that Raw seems to carry.

thesaw24

03-12-2008, 11:08 PM

The thing about kennedy winning is that he is too suspicious to win because he told orton he would cash it in that night. So i think it will be M.V.P., Morrison or Matt Hardy (i wish Jericho would win seeing as he created the MITB and he is the biggest superstar in the match)

fanofwrestling

03-13-2008, 12:00 AM

The thing about kennedy winning is that he is too suspicious to win because he told orton he would cash it in that night.

I think that's a great point. However, WWE knows that fans have short-term memory. Kennedy could win the MITB, beat the WWE Champion the same night, and 85% of the fans would still be shocked. Us "smarks", the other 15%, would be elated that McMahon finally pulled the trigger with Kennedy.

I hope it happens, and I hope it's against the Game. It was apparent in the summer of 07' that WWE wanted Kennedy and Trips to healine Wrestlemania anyway.

Kennedy is the only logical choice to win MITB now that Jeff Hardy is on hiatus. Jericho and MVP already hold mid card gold, Benjamin is still not ready to be headliner, Morrison is still a working project, Punk was just jobbed out to Chavo Guerrero, and Carlito actually wanted to leave WWE last year. On the other hand, Kennedy is not burdened by mid card gold. Of all the non champions in the match, Kennedy is the most believable person to pull off the victory. He was supposed to be World Heavyweight Champion last year; he was also supposed to be McMahon's son. WWE has wanted Kennedy to be a star and champion in their company. Wrestlemania might indeed be Kennedy's night.

Starchild

03-13-2008, 12:19 AM

I would have to concur with many that the BEST thing to do right here would be give Kennedy the win and have him cash in it that night and win the title (I would think against Orton as it was he that Kennedy said he'd do it to and I can't see Trips holding the title for like 5 mins AGAIN and could def. not see Cena doing it).
Now if this is the case, it would totally shock most and leave Mania on a good note, and those that thought it could happen would be shocked that it actually did happen, and finally with Kennedy after so long of WWE wanting him to be a star.
The only thing I have is that they never should have said it on Raw..yea maybe Jeff was supposed to win and it didn't matter anyway at the time to them, but still you never know. Had they not said it, the shock value would have been even greater for those that don't read forums and completely forgot about it.
I also think the door is open to do that AND go ahead and have Kennedy be McMahon's son giving him perhaps the biggest single night push ever and instantly making him a main eventer.
After that, I could see Trips feuding with Kennedy until Cena is done with his movie thing in the summertime.

The other option is...either that the whole Hardy drug thing is a lie (like how long Cena was gonna be out) OR the more likely, that he isn't really suspended that long. Now this could very well be a bad move either way considering how people would look at faking a drug suspension like that (but hell, they faked Vince's death and planned on it being a huge angle if not for the Benoit tragedy!!!) I would def. not consider this outside the realm of possibility and this would be probably the biggest shock that could possibly happen in this whole thing.

Mighty NorCal

03-13-2008, 01:07 AM

I really like the Kennedy idea.

Last year. seriously while I would love something like this to happen, I just find it sooo unlikely, as Kennedy has such a huge lack of momentum right now, and isnt really that over. If they had built him the same way they were right after WM, as a tweener, who wasnt scared of a challenge. Play off him being injured, and returning, determined to get his spot back. I mean he never even ATTEMPTED to get revenge on Edge for fucks sake. They have utterly wasted Kennedy, his momentum, and the oppurtunity to make this huge. He comes back, wastes Edge in a short feud, gets over with the same strong tweener character in the feuds with HBK, and lost a tough one to flair. Returns, wins MITB, and then cashes it in same night, against Cena, or Orton (imagine the monumental pop if he uses it on Cena and wins)...all not utterly out of the question...but 99% improbable. A huge waste by WWE.

I still go with MVP as the odds on favorite, he makes the most sense. He is over, is one of the top heels, and is young up and coming. He can still loose the US title to Matt, and keep the breifcase.

Enigmania

03-13-2008, 04:49 AM

I think that Undertaker will beat Edge via DQ at WrestleMania so Edge keeps the title and Taker keeps his streak alive. Taker loses it and destroys Edge leaving the newly turned face Mr Kennedy to waltz in and win. I would've said this with Jeff Hardy instead but in the words of ECW, "you fucked up".
Kennedy is basically floundering around RAW and should go back to Smackdown. Have a fued with Edge/Taker/Batista/MVP over the belt.

Capt. Charisma

03-13-2008, 04:56 AM

Kennedy won't win. There are 2 guys that realistically have a chance of winning, they are Jericho and MVP. Jericho I'm pretty sure has a clause in his contract saying he will have the WWE title at some point, which was why HHH is so against him. Jericho after winning the IC title now could potentialy be given the momentum going into mania to win this match. MVP also will have momentum after beating Batista, and it might be that WWE decide to bring him over to RAW to freshen it up, espcially theres a gap with Hardy been suspended. Kennedy just looks weak atm, I haven't been impressed by him anyway, and I'm not sure whether Vince has either- having him do a Val Venis job on raw. Carlito might have a shot though, they might finally decide to stop punishing him and give him the push Vince promised him.

As for the match itself, it will be a good match, but I am disapointed we won't be seeing Hardy/MVP, so that will probably drag on past Mania into Backlash. Next year they should really consider making the match just have 4 guys in it, because it ruins the possiblity of mid card feuds by taking the easy option and just chicking them in this match. ALso when there are 6 guys it means its hard to keep up with the action and enjoy the match as much. They would be better focusing it on 4 guys who would be able to have a decent match, instead of a few random spots in each match given to each wrestler.

trev55

03-13-2008, 07:05 AM

Kennedy wins the bank and then the title from orton then drops it at slam to Trips. They'll get the feud they wanted it'll just be six months late. I get the feeling Trips is high on Kennedy. I remember him putting him over in WWE magazine. If not Kennedy then it should be Shelton, the guy pulls off crazy shit everytime he's in it and well he needs to hit the mother load even though the ECW title is fools gold. I mean that belt has only been held by two worthy people Bobby Lashley and the greatest in ring performer of this generation Vince McMahon(who didn't mark out when Vince won)! Shelton could be the third worthy person.

Mr-excitement

03-13-2008, 07:49 AM

Now that I think about it, putting the case on the line is pointless. I can see doing it once against a rival or for something else, but not multiple times just for the hell of it. Remember when RVD won and he put it on the line against Shelton for the IC title? Why would you put your World Title shot on the line for a shot at the IC Belt? It makes very little sense when you think about it.

It's wrestling none of it makes sense, people feud with each other cut each other's hair, get married in the ring, try and destroy each other and then months later become the best of friends.

MOTB is no different from a storyline pov. You can get a title shot just by going attacking the champ and starting a feud with him.

From that perspective, the suitcase should be defended monthly.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-13-2008, 08:55 AM

The more I think about it, the less I think Kennedy is going to win.

We've all discussed his step backwards since his injury, as well as how every push seems to derail for different reasons, but there's also this - Jericho's IC title.

Who's he going to defend against? He has nobody to feud with outside of Carlito and Kennedy, and Carlito has his own feud right now with Rhodes/Holly. I say, they're planning on a Jericho/Kennedy feud at the top of the midcard, giving Kennedy the IC title, and then letting him build up from there.

So here comes the question, then. No Hardy, no Kennedy, no Jericho as he doesn't need it, no Matt Hardy because he has no shot whatsoever. That leaves us with MVP, Morrison, Shelton, and Carlito.

Shelton & Carlito = Could actually be darkhorses here to win, but use it for the ECW title. What if we get "the best of both ideas", and actually have Shelton (or Carlito) cash in the Money in the Bank at WrestleMania to defeat Kane, if he wins the battle royal and takes the gold from Chavo. That gives us the Wrestlemania cash-in-shock (albeit not nearly as close to the level it could be with the WWE/WHC titles). Shelton, nor Carlito, would be able to win the MITB and go on to challenge for the top two titles, so the ECW title gets a little more recognition and plays the punching bag for now.

MVP = Soon to be main event star, guaranteed. However, he's the US champ, and he needs to lose to Hardy. If he wins the MITB, then loses the belt to someone like Matt, he'll look so weak that we'll need to spend the next half a year building him up again to get him back into the spot where he looks like a legitimate contender. Could win, but it'll be tricky in the coming months.

Morrison = He may be your best bet here, surprisingly. Former ECW champ, getting better by the week, and he took a step backwards to become the tag team champions with the Miz. That tag run could be ending soon. What better way to give him the momentum he lost than to have him win the Money in the Bank match and then, down the line, have him cash it in. He doesn't need to win the belt that night - all he needs to do is put on a damn good show and convince everyone that he deserved the shot in the first place. That way, you don't hot shot him the main belt when he's not ready, but you hot shot him the POSITION to challenge for it. If you get yourself in the right feud, you're fastened for the main event status. Look at Austin/Hart.

CM Punk = Forgot him on the first post, so I'm editing him back in here. He has a good shot as well, as he's a little above Morrison in terms of breaking the barrier into the main event status. I'd say he has less of a chance than MVP, but more of a chance than Morrison.

Kennedy still has a really good shot, but not as much as I had previously thought. I can only bet with assurance that Matt Hardy won't be winning it, as the guy can't even find his way into the US title yet after all these months, let alone a main event belt.

Chances to win, in order, I feel:

1. Kennedy / MVP
2. CM Punk
3. Morrison
4. Shelton
5. Carlito
6. Jericho
7. Matt Hardy

Rated K for Kennedy... Kennedy!

03-13-2008, 09:10 AM

Everybody seems to be overlooking CM PUNK, he's in it (been in it before) and the more I think about it they way he lost the ECW title (beating challenger 3 weeks in a row then being screwed by outside interference) if Punk wins it he can try to cash in on SDown and lose to taker, perhaps earning some respect (similair to the awesome Undertaker V Jeff H ladder match in 2003) and then go after Edge for revenge for losing the ECW title.

Ok maybe thats far fetched, I'm kinda happy that Jeff has been removed from MIITB (not that he screwed up his golden ticket though!) because now NO-ONE knows who's gonna take the case, makes it seem fun again. Unless some upper mid-carder joins the match, can't think of anyone bigger in name value than those already there so why not Kofi Kingston!?

impact11686

03-13-2008, 09:18 AM

I think that kennedy will win mitb. I think that wwe can reestablish him in one night . Cena will win the title only to have kennedy cash in mitb after the match. Kennedy winning the title from cena would put him over big time. people would be ticked that cena got the title back but happy that kennedy saved us from another cena run.

jaybizzle13

03-13-2008, 12:54 PM

This is great. With Jeff out (dumb ass) it's basically a crap shoot trying to figure out who's going to win this thing and which belt they are going to cash their opportunity on. Breaking it down in order that they have qualified:

Mr. Kennedy: The present and future of sports entertainment. Future world champ material and just that one step away from being permanent main event status. However, the last two weeks he's tapped out to Cena and been beaten to hell and back by Finlay. The next Raw does not look good, as the entire Raw roster is most likely going to job for Cena and Orton. Therefore, he has one week (or two, depending if he appears on ECW and Smackdown like they did last year with the MITB participants) to gain momentum. Not looking good for the loudmouth from Green Bay, but is still considered a favorite.

Shelton Benjamin: The Gold Standard. Most likely placed in this match to help set up a push/high spots. As such, pretty sure he is not going to pick up the victory.

Chris Jericho: Y2J, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla, The Man of 1,004 Holds.... sorry got carried away there. Most importantly, the man with the Intercontinental belt. And the trend in the MITB match is the one who holds the IC belt.... doesn't get the briefcase. WM 21 - Shelton, lost WM 22 - Shelton again, lost WM 23 - Jeff Hardy, puts Edge through a ladder and does not return. In other words, do not take Jericho's victory too highly. It does not mean that he has the momentum swing in his favor. It means that they need to get the belt off Hardy. As far as him winning is concerned, this is my pick. He's playing to a new audience that is not as familiar with him as they were two years ago. Therefore, to re-establish him, he needs to win the MITB so that the "Savior" isn't considered a flop.

Carlito: I can see this as a beginning of big things for him. He's not going to win, but I believe he's going to have a strong showing and finally impress the powers that be to give him a push. And that's cool.

MVP: The IWF's most popular pick to win this thing. He's riding momentum from this Batista feud and he's pretty much the most over mid-card heel in the WWE. However, it's not his time yet, so I'm thinking that he will display a strong showing, but will come up short.

CM Punk: I'm just now realizing how short this match is on faces. 2 faces and 5 heels, plus one unknown.... Anyway, Punk has basically, IMO, done everything he could have done in ECW. I'm thinking that it's time for him to go play with the big boys. However, they did seem to tease a feud with Shelton during the match against Big Daddy V. So, another strong showing from Punk, but no briefcase and a Punk vs Shelton feud to start.

John Morrison: With this gimmick, he is a far superior singles competitor as compared to a tag team wrestler. Hopefully this is the stepping stone for him to go back to singles competition. Won't win, but solid showing nonetheless.

?????: Jeff Hardy's replacement. Could be Matt, could be Tommy Dreamer, hell could be The Great Khali.... oh wait, he's in the Battle Royal, thank God. Odds on the WWE will add an 8th participant in the MITB match and it will probably be the returning Matt Hardy. obviously, no matter who it is, they will not win.

Overall, this might be the best MITB match in the history of MITB matches. All of these competitors are athletic and their styles will compliment each other and the ladders. I see Chris Jericho taking it but would not be surprised if MVP, Kennedy, or even CM Punk.

fanofwrestling

03-13-2008, 04:59 PM

I think that Undertaker will beat Edge via DQ at WrestleMania so Edge keeps the title and Taker keeps his streak alive. Taker loses it and destroys Edge leaving the newly turned face Mr Kennedy to waltz in and win.

That's an EXCELLENT point. Taker could win by DQ, become infuriated over the outcome, and completely annahilate Edge. This would allow Kennedy to walk out and pick up the scraps.

It would be Kennedy's ultimate revenge on Edge. We love well-planned, long term booking. And whether it was planned all along or not, it would certainly give us that impression.

Kennedy has the best chance to win Money in the Bank. It would add a tremendous amount of suspense to Wrestlemania if he won it early in the show.

This Wrestlemania is shaping up to be an amazing show.

aidanbaxter

03-13-2008, 07:03 PM

That's an EXCELLENT point. Taker could win by DQ, become infuriated over the outcome, and completely annahilate Edge. This would allow Kennedy to walk out and pick up the scraps.

It would be Kennedy's ultimate revenge on Edge. We love well-planned, long term booking. And whether it was planned all along or not, it would certainly give us that impression.

Kennedy has the best chance to win Money in the Bank. It would add a tremendous amount of suspense to Wrestlemania if he won it early in the show.

This Wrestlemania is shaping up to be an amazing show.

I think this would be a great outcome. It is also very realistic, as Kennedy being beaten by Cena and Finlay in recent weeks could be the "jobbing" before the big win that can happen some times. Finger's crossed.
I can't just think what would the Undertaker do all summer if Edge and Kennedy are fueding over the title, which leads me to believe it won't happen.

THE Madcap

03-13-2008, 08:11 PM

While it may be great booking, just think of how weak that would make Kennedy look as a champion. I don't think a face turn is on the cards for Kennedy and I really don't think WWE want him as a transitional champion, such as Edge was when he 1st won the title and Khali when he filled in for an injured Edge. I for one would love to see a HHH v Kennedy fued, once he's built up as a legitimate contender. If Taker's going over Edge at 'Mania, he's definitely taking the strap with him IMO.

jasko

03-14-2008, 12:37 AM

i dont know about you guys but iam going for chris jericho in this match it dosnt bother me that he has the title in the past if u can remeber rob van dam had a match against shelton benjamin and bet him for the Intercontinental Championship and the money in the bank briefcase and with jericho s absence and the one who created the money in the bank it would be make a great win for him. any thoughts ?????

fanofwrestling

03-14-2008, 08:31 AM

i dont know about you guys but iam going for chris jericho in this match it dosnt bother me that he has the title in the past

I agree that Chris Jericho wouldn't be a bad choice either. He is the most accomplished star in the match and a proven main event performer. But part of me feels that Jericho was chosen to win the Intercontinental Championship as a consolation prize for his pending loss at Wrestlemania. If we recall, nobody that has won the Money in the Bank match has been a former world champion. That's probably because they want to grant those world title opportunities to fresh faces that are on the cusp of becoming main eventers. Edge, RVD, and Kennedy fit that mold perfectly. I just don't think that Jericho fits that profile.

Chromiak

03-14-2008, 12:26 PM

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-14-2008, 01:22 PM

You guys want Kennedy to be your MiTB winner? Why? Kennedy's boring as hell.
Sure, he can be entertaining on the mic, but his matches are 2 star at best. Anybody remember the match he had with Marty Jennetty at the 15th anniversary show? I swear you could hear crickets chirping in the audience.
Kennedy needs another year or two at least until I think he'll be credible as a
World Champ contender.
Therefore, I would have Jericho win the MiTB this year.

Is it really Kennedy's fault that his match with MJ was bad? I mean, we're talking Marty Janetty here lol. The guy's way past his prime and even in his prime he wasn't the one with the goods to break out even 1/100th of how Michaels did.

But I do agree that Kennedy still needs a bit of tweaking, however, as pointed out above, Jericho winning would be a waste as he doesn't need the MITB - he's already a main event guy.

psykohurricane

03-14-2008, 01:59 PM

i actually could see CM Punk winning this thing. They could have somewhat the same finish and have CM Punk and Kennedy going for the Briefcase but have CM Punk get some sort of revenge on Kennedy by kicking him off the ladder and taking the briefcase.

pun2003hh

03-14-2008, 02:33 PM

I'm still holding strong that the person who would benefit most from the MITB is MVP. And I personally think he is ready. Though, a Kennedy win and same night cash in would be awesome. Just think, Cena wins the WWE Championship ( I hate to say it, but thats where this seems to be headed ) all bloody and battered, fans booing, and all of a sudden, bam! Kennedy comes out, cashes in, and takes the gold.

ccs48

03-14-2008, 04:51 PM

my feelings on the chances of the participants in MITB

Chris Jericho i hope he wins he deserves it i could see him losing the I-C title
before wrestlemania and jumping to smackdown after winning the case

Shelton Benjamin he's good but he dont need the case he can win the ECW title
without it

John Morrison NO CHANCE simple as that

Carlito it would be cool no pun intended but i dont see it happening

MVP i could see him win it and then lose the US title at backlash to matt hardy
in order to build up momentum to cash it in he would be a good person to take
the belt from undertaker

MR. Ken Kennedy Kennedy if he wins he WILL cash it in at THIS wrestlemania
and i think he has a good shot at winning

CM Punk i think he's in MITB just because if he was in the battle royal he would
have to win it

jinglin

03-14-2008, 05:55 PM

i personally don't like any of the choices that might win the MITB briefcase. Witth Jeff Hardy , its really gonna be a dull match. There wouldn't be any favorites to win the briefcase. But i would want jericho to win it even though he really has no chance.

pun2003hh

03-14-2008, 07:50 PM

Just read the Smackdown preview for tonight, and it says that Morrison and Miz will compete for the Final spot in the MITB match at Mania. I'm hoping its a misprint but if it holds true, looks like they aren't going to replace Jeff Hardy after all, and just have a 7 man match, rather then 8. Considering Matt Hardy is going to be competing at house shows this weekend, I find it rather odd that they wouldn't put him in the match.

mattitude2007

03-14-2008, 09:24 PM

I actually think this is pretty cool...I'm getting the vibe that Matt Hardy since he's not in the match can come in and interfere, costing MVP the brief case.

Instantly rekindling their feud.

Y 2 Jake

03-15-2008, 03:06 AM

I like the inclusion of Punk and Morrison. Punk managed to stand out last year. In what I thought was a pretty average match. 8 wrestlers is far too many. So for him to make an impact in a ladder match involving Booker, Edge, Hardyz & Orton was impressive.

I also like Morrison in this match. I'd consider him to be an inventive wrestler. I'm certainly intrested in seeing what he can come up with.

Y 2 Jake

03-15-2008, 03:44 AM

Hold up kids. I've just seen this picture:

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/6642424

What is MVP doing there? Where is the MVP/Hardy match? This is freakin' bullshit. Damn you Hardy and your funky appendix.

I expect MVP to win this now. But come on. If Hardy can't wrestle then get somebody else to face him. The US title actually has a little prestige, so please defend it.

I'm not seeing how he's going to stand out in this match. Kennedy only managed to last year because of that midget. MVP doesn't really appear to be the sort who'll be good in this type of match.

Now if the final wrestler is Matt Hardy I'll be really pissed.

Mighty NorCal

03-15-2008, 04:05 AM

Yea JAke, check a few pages back, MVP was added a few days ago. He beat Jaimie Noble at a house show to qualify. It was dont two days before the Hardy suspension, so I am fairly sure he was subbed in to take Hardys spot as the winner. I was pissed about him being in it for the same reasons as you, til I realized that Hardys idiocy may have given MVP a MITB breifcase. He is my odds on pick to win, for a number of reasons(cited in the other posts). I think they are gonna use him here becuase Hardy wil be coming back too late to get a decent re build for a mania pay off. I dont agree, but I see the WWE logic. And everyone is freaking out about Matt Hardy not being in it just becuase MVP is. I dont think WWE wants a guy who just a had a freaking appendectomy in a big bump, high spot ladder match so soon. I think MVP will shock many, and thrive, and succeed here. Who else is a btter option? No one IMO.

Y 2 Jake

03-15-2008, 06:27 AM

So apparently there are only going to be 7 wrestlers involved in this now Jeff is gone. I don't see why. 7 is such an odd number. I'm sure they could have added somebody like Burke or Noble to round the number up.

I'm actually thinking that Matt will appear as the 8th wrestler at Mania. Just as it's about to start his music will go off and he'll be part of it.

I then expect him and MVP to brawl to the back leaving the rest to battle it out.

Capt. Charisma

03-15-2008, 06:34 AM

This match is such a complete waste of talent though, I don't know why they didnt just keep it at 6 like the first money in the bank. In fact they should make it just 4, and have some decent mid card matches. That been said it'll still be the second best match by far. Does MVP really need to win it? He's practically a upper mid-carder now anyway. He only needs a small push and he's there, I still personally feel Carlito will win it, because he must of been promised a push in order to stay. Jericho also I'm sure he has something in his contract about a World title, the rest are massive outsiders in my opinion who are only going to win it if WWE decides to start the ECW title some credibility. I don't think Matt will be in this match, I think he'll be the one to challange Chavo and win the title off him.

TheOneBigWill

03-15-2008, 01:43 PM

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/6642424

Its official, there won't be an 8th man. On Smackdown, they built the John Morrison v. The Miz match as the FINAL MITB Qualifying match. Therefore, when looking at the line-up, it more or less would go about like this.

M.V.P.: The odds on favorite to possibly win it, assuming Matt Hardy doesn't interfere or somehow get added into the match, costing M.V.P. the match. Porter is the only guy who is a big enough name, to deserve a legit World Heavyweight Championship match.. who hasn't blown any opportunity when given the chance in the past. (ie. Kennedy)

Mr. Kennedy: Dispite making mistakes in the past, and blowing opportunities handed to him before, they could go ahead and give him a second chance. I think Kennedy is likely the best guy in this match to win the whole thing, as long as they aren't still holding the past against him. Kennedy has the best chance at being a note-worthy World Champion, but no where near quality enough to be a Raw Champion.

Chris Jericho: Doesn't make a lot of sense for him to have just won the Intercontinental Championship, only to turn around and gain access to a World Heavyweight title shot. However Jericho is a "big name" and has the ability to win based off that alone. I'm not saying it'd be a good choice, I'm just saying it'd be a logical one.

C.M. Punk: They've been feeding him to Chavo Guerrero left and right on E.C.W., so I can't see how that would magically make him a legit contender for either Raw or Smackdown's Championship titles. However perhaps this is Punk's best laid chance to escape that brand, and jump to either Smackdown or Raw. Again, its not likely, but it could be possible. Another theory is that the briefcase could be cashed in against the E.C.W. Champion as well.

John Morrison: I think Morrison is the dark horse of the match. The reason being, is because he was never scheduled to win the E.C.W. Heavyweight Championship, yet when he did he carried it greatly. Great enough to be a possible top contender for a run on either Raw or Smackdown. I know many would disagree, but I think Morrison is a younger version of Edge. I think he has all of what it takes to be a great future World Champion.

Shelton Benjamin: I don't honestly think Benjamin has a shot in the dark at winning this match, however he still has a better chance than Carlito. They've pushed Benjamin as of late on E.C.W., but he doesn't have anywhere near the ability to be a World Champion on Raw or Smackdown. I can definately see him winning the E.C.W. Championship at some point in his future, especially for them to give that Championship to Chavo, however I don't see Benjamin winning this match. I simply see him being apart of it because he works well with ladders.

Carlito: More or less see above. The only difference being, I don't even see Carlito as being a top contender for the E.C.W. Championship. Up until recently, Carlito has been jobbing out to Cody Rhodes. More or less, Carlito's lost more than a page. Hes lost a whole book. Hes only in this match, similar to Shelton, because he can hit one or two big spots and hes a young talent that at least deserves some type of spotlight.

Overall: I'd honestly say M.V.P. to feud with the Undertaker, or Mr. Kennedy to feud with Triple H. Either way, it looks like Hardy's fall from grace has opened the door for someone to take the next step in their career. The only question I have is this.

Last year people badly judged Edge for "stealing" Mr. Kennedy's shot. Well, with whoever wins this match, will they be seen in the same light for "stealing" Jeff Hardy's shot? Because the fact is, with Hardy suddenly absent, this match is up for grabs by any one of the individuals involved. And to be honest. I WANT John Morrison to walk away with the victory. Believe you me, I will be jumping for joy if somehow Morrison walks away with the victory. And Wrestlemania will be worth every penny if this happens.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-15-2008, 02:35 PM

I WANT John Morrison to walk away with the victory. Believe you me, I will be jumping for joy if somehow Morrison walks away with the victory. And Wrestlemania will be worth every penny if this happens.

I'm rooting for Morrison as well, actually. Carlito and Benjamin don't need the Money in the Bank to get a shot at the ECW title, as the ECW title isn't prestigious enough to limit the challengers. Jericho can challenge anyone at any time and it'd be legitimate and acceptable. MVP is big enough now that he could make the jump to the main event without needing the briefcase. CM Punk can just wait until the draft and then start at the upper midcard of Raw or Smackdown. So that leaves Kennedy and Morrison, and I think Kennedy has it in him to make the jump without the case as well, but both men have taken a step backwards as of the past few months. However, where Kennedy excels on the mic and could create a "jump-ship feud to the main event" based purely on that, Morrison struggles a little on the mic, so he'd benefit the most by having this win. I'd love to see all of the men involved in this MITB match to become the future stars of the WWE, as they all are talented, and some are pretty much guaranteed a top spot soon enough (like MVP), but it would kick ass if Morrison won it. Logically, though, I still think the safest bet is Kennedy, as I think MVP will be "screwed" out of the match by a returning Matt Hardy to reignite their long-overdue and now boring feud.

Mighty NorCal

03-15-2008, 02:52 PM

I just wanted to piggy back on something Will. Just becuase they advertised the match as the LAST QUALIFYING MATCH doesnt necessarily mean there wont be an 8th entrant. Its perfectly set up for Matt Hardy to sub into his brothers spot. Something with Vince announcing "you people payed to see a Hardy in a aladder match, and you WILL get it"...Hardy then come sout to a fat pop, and ruins everything for MVP, thus throwing feuld back onto the fire. Do I WANT this? NO. As you all know, my opion is less is more when it comes to this match. But I certainley see this as a plausable situation. If this happens, I certainly see Kennedy taking this. Although, Miz and Morrison will be facing Jesse and festus for the tag team gold on SD!. That makes me think maybe Morrison could have a chance, becuase im fairly sure Miz and Morrison will drop the belts, as they have been bickering and fighting the last few weeks. If that happens, and the team breaks up, I really think Morrison could have a real chance in this thing. And as you mentioned, they enjoy using Morrison as a shocker winner. It very well could happen.

W13rd0W

03-15-2008, 03:06 PM

Just a thought , but as the 60 days suspension permits him to do shows and PPVs whould it be imposible to see Jeff come up as the wrestlemania surprise ? And of course if that's not gonna happen i don't see a MITB match without a Hardy, and Matt will certainly not be left out of the PPV.

Just as a thought but why put men with bigger status like Y2J or MVP here , when you can just through London/Kendrick as a filler as they will to better jumps and tricks with the ladders than MVP .?

justinsayne

03-15-2008, 05:44 PM

Ok, it may just be me, but I was kinda hoping that Burchill would have gotten in the match, I think he would've been a great addition, just the thought of him hitting the C4 (his finisher from his Pirate Paul days, can'y remember what it was called in WWE) off a ladder, and even possaibly the Curb Stomp finisher he uses now onto a ladder makes me wanna mark out just thinking about, but looks like it won't be happening since MITB is now finalized

Personally I would've left Morrison out of this match, I just think that the other six were already capable of putting on a great ladder match, Morrison wasn't really needed, they should've just stuck him in the ECW Battle Royal, now the MITB match just seems to have to many people, I just can't imagine it being as good with 7 people, I have always felt that 6 was the magic number for the MITB match, and why on earth are their 3 ECW guys, 3 Raw guys, and only 1 SD! guy?!?, probably just me that that just seems dumb

I'm thinking that either Kennedy or MVP are gonna win, though it seems the odds favor Kennedy a little more, with the promos he has cut about winning and cashing it in on the same night, but MVP would be a good choice too, I think he's well on his way to being a ME level guy over on SD!, and whether he wins or not wouldn't be surprised to see him main eventing in a WHC match on PPV before the end of the year, I don't see any of the ECW guys standing a chance at winning this, why would they waste such a huge match on pushing someone on the "C" show, when they could instead use it to push someone on the "A" or "B" shows, their is a reason they aren't on Raw or SD! at the moment

Mighty NorCal

03-17-2008, 04:47 AM

majestic-marcus

03-17-2008, 07:53 AM

Remember the days when it was all right to remain a strong midcarder for your entire career? Think of RR Piper, he never won the big one but still held the IC belt (granted it held alot more prestige in those days), faced Hogan at the first wrestlemania main event and is in the hall of fame!

Having said this I would argue that guys like Carlito and Benjamin will forever be in the midcard without it destroying their reputation and as a big fan of both these guys I can live with that and actually feel it is a good thing for business. Who wants an amazing group of 2/3 main eventers and no under-card talent?

As much as I hate and hesitate to say it, I beleive that Morrisson and Punk may even become career midcarders even though I beleive they have what it takes to carry the business (even on RAW, though not for a couple of years yet).

Y2J doesn't need this, thats all that needs to be said. Anyway his IC title does open up a possible feud with CM Punk if they want to draft him to RAW and having seen his old heel promos (telling people drinking/smoking that he hoped they died), either man could play the heel or the face and make this an awesome undercard fued.

That leaves MVP and Kennedy. Personnaly I feel either man has as much a chance as the other and that they are the only 2 in this with a real chance of winning it (with an outside chance of a Punk victory). If HHH wants to feud with Cena this Summer then either Kennedy will switch back to Smackdown (he did already have a 'Taker rivalry which was entertaining) or they'll give it to MVP. Either man has the potential for superstardom and the ability to currently lead their respective brands, what's more its the only match this year which I can't guess the winner (though my money's on Kennedy if Matt shows up, MVP if he doesn't)

I want; Morrisson/Punk to win
I think; Kenedy/MVP will win

justinsayne

03-17-2008, 09:21 AM

I just had another peice of the Kennedy FTW theory materialize in my crazy mind...

Since JBL has apparently now revealed that Hornswaggle is actually Finlays son, doent that technically re-open the Mcmahon illegitimate son storyline?? And how could they rebuild Kennedy to the earth shaking momentum he had last year??? he wins MITB, and then Mcmahon shortly thereafter reveals the KENNEDY really IS the son after all. This could also mean that Cena winning the belt only to drop it seconds later to Kennedy would be all the more plausible, as it paints Cena in a sympathetic light, and pits him against Vince and his son, as antagonists. WWE probably isnt smart enough to realize all this though, so I wouldnt be counting on it LOL

I think they said that Vinces family contacted Finley and they came up with the whole bastard son thing to get back at Vince for faking his death, I could be wrong, I did miss a week, but if that's the case then there may be no bastard son at all, and JBL/Finley is the end of it, also if this is the case than your whole theory just went out the window, personally I think they're done with this one, and after this there will be no more speak of a McMahon bastard child

I still think Kennedy is the most likely to win this, and would like to see him win, then Cena win the Triple Threat, have Kennedy come out after the match, cash in his MITB shot and beat Cena for the belt, but I can't possiably be that lucky...hell knowing WWE they'd probably do that, but instead have Cena just scoop up Kennedy and hit him with an F-U and make him tap to the STFU, thus making the whole MITB title shot completly pointless in the process

MVP would be my second guess to win this, but I get the feeling Matt will make his return and cost MVP the match

Jericho could be another person that could win, but he really doesn't need it, the MITB match is useally looked at as a match used to push guys from the high mid-card into the main event, and Jericho is, for the most part, already considered a main eventer

Shelton, Carlito, Punk, & Morrison all don't stand a chance at winning this

Carlito won't cause he's been jobbing for ages now, and isn't in posistion for any type of title shot

Morrison...well I'm still wondering why the fuck they put this guy into the match to begin with, he's been out of the title picture on ECW for months now, IMO it would be a waste to give him the MITB, in fact if anyone where to use the MITB title shot on the ECW title it would just lessen the importance of the title shot, it would be like cashing it in on the US or IC title, just dumb, and Morrison, IMO, would have been better used in the ECW Battle Royal shit match

Shelton is only in this match for his high sots on the ladder, he's gonna get his shot at the ECW title anyway and doesn't need this match for it

Punk is probably the most likely of the three ECW guys in the match to win this, but the only way I could see them giving him the MITB title shot is if they were move him to either SD! or Raw, and I don't see them doing this for two reasons, one, cause he's constantly in the fucking dog house over stupid shit, and 2, cause he's simply not ready to compete for the WHC or WWE title

So I'm guessing Kennedy wins MITB again, and hoping that my scenario where he cashes it in and beats Cena for the belt after the triple threat comes true...but I'm not getting my hopes up

TheOneBigWill

03-17-2008, 10:19 AM

Shelton, Carlito, Punk, & Morrison all don't stand a chance at winning this

Morrison...well I'm still wondering why the fuck they put this guy into the match to begin with, he's been out of the title picture on ECW for months now, IMO it would be a waste to give him the MITB, in fact if anyone where to use the MITB title shot on the ECW title it would just lessen the importance of the title shot, it would be like cashing it in on the US or IC title, just dumb, and Morrison, IMO, would have been better used in the ECW Battle Royal shit match

Would you stop hating on John Morrison. :lmao: The man has done nothing to you.

I'm pushing heavily for John Morrison to win, because as I've stated several times prior, hes like a younger less experienced version of Edge. He has all the makings of a great wrestler. He has the look, he has the talent, he has charisma and in-ring ability. He needs to tune up his mic. skills, but hes by leaps and bounds better on the mic. than guys like Batista, or Orton.

Not to mention, think back to the Benoit ordeal. They randomly put John Morrison in the match, then gave him the Championship. If (assuming he was) Benoit was meant to win, I could understand Morrison winning in his place. However it doesn't explain how they suddenly let Morrison keep the Championship until September, when unfortunately he was caught up in the steroid scandal.

I have strong belief that Morrison will be better than Kennedy. All he needs is to find a gimmick and stick with it. Johnny Nitro and John Morrison are both top quality names to use for a World Heavyweight Champion, therefore I can still definately see him winning this, then making a leap into the World Heavyweight Championship picture.

Do I see him defeating the likes of the Undertaker? Hell no, not right now anyways. But he has more than what it takes to defeat Batista, and that proves to me that hes worthy of a Heavyweight run.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-17-2008, 12:37 PM

Get ready for another long post from NoFate007, lol.

What are we looking at in the near future? As far as the WWE title goes, a triple threat feud between HHH/Orton/Cena, dropping Orton first. On Raw's side, we have Finlay feuding with JBL, though I doubt that'll last long, so who will JBL feud with? My guess is HBK, since he has nobody left. Umaga is feuding with Batista. Undertaker/Edge. MVP/Matt Hardy. I could see Finlay feuding with Big Show after Wrestlemania, as Batista's tied up with Umaga. Who does Jericho have for his IC title, and who does Kennedy have to feud with? Each other. So, by proxy:

1. Kennedy and Jericho cost each other the MITB, and start a feud over the IC title, which Kennedy eventually wins.
2. Matt comes back and costs MVP the MITB, reigniting their feud.

That leaves us with CM Punk, Morrison, Benjamin, and Carlito.

CM Punk - He's only winning it if they want him to move up to the WWE title or WHC, which is plausible, but we're not sure how likely. He has a good chance at becoming a WHC holder but not the WWE title just yet.

Shelton - ECW title is the only thing within his grasp.

*Note: Did anybody else feel like there was a slight nod towards a CM Punk/Shelton Benjamin feud? If they want to do so, they may end up costing each other the MITB and starting their feud right after Wrestlemania. I can't see Shelton feuding with Kane once he wins the ECW title, as they've had a very small feud very recently, and Punk has nobody left to feud with, so why not?

And in that case, you have Carlito and Morrison.

Carlito - As we've said, the only way this guy has a shot is if he uses it to win the ECW title, which isn't as likely as some other options and it would frankly be a waste of the case.

So that leaves Morrison...who may be losing the tag team title soon in order to move on to bigger and better things. I could see them giving the title to Cena somewhere around Summerslam (ugh) and having Morrison be his next feud after that, as Cena will have already went through rather recent feuds with HHH, HBK, Orton, Umaga, and JBL (to an extent) but not with Morrison, as he hasn't reached that peak yet.

I'm hoping this happens, because Morrison's someone I want to see the best of, but I'm a fan of all the guys in this match (to varying degrees, Carlito being my least) so I hope more than anything that they execute the Money in the Bank cash-in in the right way.

Cage917r

03-17-2008, 01:09 PM

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-17-2008, 02:03 PM

Morrison is not going to win, he doesn't have any momentum, I think it will come down to two people really, either Kennedy or Y2J. The problem is Kennedy is he already said that he would cash it in after the main event. Y2J would make sense cuz I have to believe that he will eventually win one of the main titles, he didn't come back to be a mid-carder. So I could see Y2J winning it. MVP, Morrison, Carlito, and Shelton, really have no chance. If CM Punk won and cashed it in for the ECW Title, that would be a disgrace to the MITB Match, so I definetely hope that doesn't happen. When its all said and done I expect Y2J to win it, basically taking Hardy's push.

The problem with Y2J winning it, though, is that its a waste. He doesn't need it in order to challenge for a top title as he's already a legitimate main event star. The other guys in the match aren't, yet, but need a little extra push to get past the "upper midcard" status. As far as momentum goes, you have to start somewhere. Look at Santino. He had no momentum whatsoever, but they started him with an IC title reign right off the bat. Hornswoggle didn't have any momentum going into his Cruiserweight title capture, but that happened. This could be just what Morrison needs to start building up a lot of steam in 08.

stephhh

03-17-2008, 02:19 PM

I do not know who will win and neither I have any favourites but I thought hardy would win until he got suspended. Anyway I think MITB match will be a good and entertaining one and wont be boring like last time. I hope the deserving one will win

teamratedcds

03-17-2008, 03:02 PM

morriso hes the tag team champ he defends the belts every week and always finds a way to win i would have to say morrison or kennedy with kennedy cashing in the title after a brutal batal like hell in a cell or the chamber like edge did but this time edge mr kennedy would have the belt longer maybe up until the next mania if he wins it in november but i want to c morrison win hes full of talent hes cant do every thing but my winner for mitb 4 is :mr kennedy

peterf

03-17-2008, 05:35 PM

I am looking forward to the mitb match, i like them every year and hopefully it will deliver this year aswell, its a great starter match for wrestlemania its gets me in the mood.

Anyway predictions it is so hard, i firstly said jeff hardy but he got suspended, then i said jericho but he has got a title now (IC if you have forgot cause i forgot all about it)
so whos left: MVP, cm punk, carlito, shelton benjamin, out of them i carnt seeing any of them winning so im going for mr kennedy or unless they have a eighth mitb entrant and he wins it, maybe matt, who knows?

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-18-2008, 11:23 PM

WrestleZone posted an article stating how Stephanie and Vince are big on CM Punk and we'll "see this after Wrestlemania". While this clearly doesn't specifically state he'll win the Money in the Bank match, it strongly points to it. I stand by my previous post (that the aftermath of the match will be a Jericho/Kennedy feud, Matt screwing MVP and reigniting their feud, and a CM Punk/Shelton feud) and I'm still hoping Morrison comes out on top, but now it seems very likely that we'll see Punk win. If they don't give it to Morrison, hopefully they give him something of equal credence that will help push him to the main event.

thedude1

03-19-2008, 02:05 PM

Cage917r

03-19-2008, 03:00 PM

Although in the past the MITB has been used to elevate a mid-carder, the only mid-carder in the field that I could have honestly seen being elevated to main eventer is Mr. Kennedy. Some people may think Y2J winning it would be a waste, but that wasn't the original plan. The original plan was Hardy, that was obvious, now they have to go to an emergency back up plan. The fact is Kennedy said he was going to cash it in after the main even, and that is highly unlikely to happen. None of the other guys are ready to be World Champ, can' even see it within the next year, except for Chris Jericho. He is the only guy, besides for Kennedy I could see winning any big title, except for the ECW, if you call that a big title, within the next year. Which is why he should win it, the moment the winner cashes it in and doesn't win the title, this match will lose its luster, so Y2J has to win, he is the only one worthy of holding a World Title.

Agrex

03-19-2008, 03:04 PM

I really don't want this match to start the ppv off. Last year there were only two great matches and one of them was this and it was first. Mania shouldn't peek in the first 20 minutes, it needs someplace to go. I agree that Mania should have an awesome starter but not its best match. This year I would like to see the Battle Royal open the card with a solid ECW title match between matt Hardy and Chavo as the opener. that would be rad. I know everyone wants Matt Hardy to attack MVP but I'm pretty certain the WWE has put that story behind them for the time being. which is a shame. I mean the heat is entirely gone as its been almost 5 months.

I think MITB should be right in the middle of the card.

I disagree. Why shouldn't the biggest show of the year (in pro wrestling) not have a great opening match. The MITB ladder match is a good match to get the fans interested right away. The MITB ladder match builds up alot of excitement that can last until one of the main events. So, I think it would be a good idea for the MITB ladder match to be the opener.

It was posted up on Wrestlezone.com that Matt Hardy is expected to return at 'Mania to attack MVP during the MITB ladder match.

I agree that most of the heat from the MVP/Hardy feud is gone, but not all of it. If MVP were to get attacked by a returning Matt Hardy during the MITB ladder match tht could reignite the feud. The feud would have alot more heat as Matt Hrady was 'injured by MVP', and now is back seeking 'revenge'.

thedude1

03-19-2008, 04:23 PM

I never said Mania shouldn't open with a great match. But in last year's case, the best match on the card was first. Taker and Batista was a close second and they were fourth. Essentially the WWE shot all their bullets half way through the show. Imagine this: A Battle Royal which will be, if nothing else, entertaining and then a title match with say Chavo and Matt Hardy. Now I know Hardy may not be in this thing, but i would have to say that starting the ppv off like that would be amazing and then we still have all night to look forward to MITB.

Imagine if at Mania 16 or 17 they had started with TLC. Its just too quick.

The best manias ever have started with a good to great match but not the best on the card. WrestleMania X started with Owen v. Bret an amazing match but we still had all night to look forward to HBK and Razor's ladder match. I think MITB should be no earlier than 4th.

rKo0019

03-19-2008, 04:35 PM

I never said Mania shouldn't open with a great match. But in last year's case, the best match on the card was first. Taker and Batista was a close second and they were fourth.

Really have to disagree here. Taker and Batista tore the freakin' house down. MITB last year was just a spot fest, with too many damn wrestlers involved to be able to follow the action. Most of the time it consisted of 6 wrestlers lying around while two duked it out in the ring. Have to admit, Kennedy giving Hornswoggle the Green Bay Plunge off the ladder was awesome.

I think the best pick to win it this year would be Jericho, now that Jeff Hardy is gone. Close second would be CM Punk, so he can get his "prestigious" ECW Title back. I would really like to see Kennedy gain some momentum back and win it this year, as last year around this time he was on a roll. I highly doubt it though this year, they have made it too obvious that he doesn't have a shot. Although, they may throw us a swerve, who knows...

thedude1

03-19-2008, 05:34 PM

Yes, spot fests are rad. Although I do have to agree, MITB is way over crowded and would serve as a better match if it were 4 guys. Regardless, lets say that Batista and undertaker was the best and MITB was second, why not have MITB fourth and Taker/Batista last with say Benoit/MVP first. That would have made Mania so much better. This year is different though because the card is much much better than last year.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-19-2008, 05:41 PM

Now that they've said they're building a roof over the stadium, I definitely agree that the Money in the Bank match shouldn't be first. Here's the lineup that makes the most sense to me:

Battle Royal
ECW Championship
Big Show vs Mayweather
Belfast Brawl
Raw vs Smackdown
Money in the Bank
Bunny Mania
Ric Flair's Last Match
World Heavyweight Championship
Triple-Threat WWE Championship

That way, you separate the three matches that "have no rules" so to speak (battle royal, belfast brawl, MITB) with three standard matches (ECW title and Batista/Umaga). Since Chavo/?, Umaga/Batista, Mayweather/Show, and Finlay/JBL probably won't be too fast paced, the Money in the Bank will, so it wakes up the audience. Then Bunny Mania gives them a piss/food break so they don't miss the three finales. I'm assuming we'll see a new ECW champion, so if so, that'll give the audience 2 good things in a row, and then they'll have to sit through a horrible Mayweather match, and if they're bored out of their mind with that, the no-DQ Belfast Brawl might breathe some life back into them.

And the more I think about it, the more I think Punk is walking away with the briefcase, even though I'm still rooting for Morrison.

By the way, who else thinks that the best spot of the match is going to involve Shelton? I can see Morrison pulling off some insane stunt, but I can't picture Carlito, MVP, Kennedy, or Jericho doing anything too nuts.

Dylanis

03-19-2008, 06:32 PM

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-19-2008, 07:24 PM

I completely agree starting the show with the Battle Royale for 2 reasons:
1) It's an interesting starter, the crowd and fans will get into it
2) It gives the winner time to "rest". They won't want the match to be horrible.

Thus, I don't think the championship match should be directly after. Unless, did they say it would be RIGHT after on ECW? I don't really watch it.

I also agree with Shelton doing something nuts. Nobody else is going to.

Yeah, I think they said before that the ECW match "immediately follows" the battle royal. Hopefully, that doesn't mean that they'll pull the crap where the winner "is too battle torn" to defeat Chavo.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-19-2008, 10:14 PM

Well, even more annoying to me than that cheap cop-out, is the fact that it would mean Chavo retains the title. I've never been a fan of Chavo, and although he's a "solid mediocre" talent in all realms, he certainly doesn't deserve the supposed 3rd top title in the company. Chavo to me has always seemed like someone who would be fine as a tag team champion or in feuds with midcarders, but nothing more, not even holding a midcard title. Idk why they gave him the ECW title - especially when it didn't do much to aid Edge's heat. All it did was distract the Edge/Undertaker feud by having Edge/Mysterio/Chavo/Punk. And, keeping this on the MITB topic, I can't see them continuing a Punk/Chavo feud (and I hope to hell they don't as I got bored with that by the middle of their first match), so I really hope we don't see Punk win the MITB, then cash it in and beat Chavo for the ECW title.

jasko

03-19-2008, 10:34 PM

a lot people are saying cm punk will win but i dont see him winning cause he can get a title match without the briefcase and if he did win and then cashed it in against chavo it would be stupid but maybe he will be drafted and cash in the briefcase for wwe or world heavyweight championship which i think he isnt ready yet for so i think it i will be between mr kennedy or chirs jericho they are better contenders

builder

03-20-2008, 05:45 AM

LMFAO teh ECW title doesnt mean SHIT. The US title means well more in prestige and current recognition. CM punk couldnt the at the ECW champ couldnt even get the win over the US champ MVP despite MVP being the run away when getting ass kicked heel. Punk ended up getting fucking powned.
ECW should be left as a house show, it was only watchable when Big Show was champ.
Money in the bank SHOULD go to Kennedy, he needs it, deserves it, should leave wrestlemania as champ, popping triple H with mic check after he wins the triple threat. after all he did say he was cashing it in then rmember?
hardy wont as he has been suspended cause he is a useless overtaed fuckwit.

havertkingofkings619

03-20-2008, 07:31 AM

I agree that Batista and the Undertake tore the house down last year, but this whole MITB match is getting real old because like you guys said its 6 wrestlers laying around and 2 of the them duking it out and its not really tht enjoyable anymore the first one was great when Edge won the thing, But if I had to go with anybody it would prolly be CM Punk, ( manily because Jeff is gone)

thedude1

03-20-2008, 12:40 PM

The winner should either be MVP or Jericho. As much as I'd like to see Kennedy win, I can't honestly see him cashing it in at Mania and leaving as Champ. A rad storyline would be to have Kennedy win and just after the Undertaker beats Edge, Kennedy comes out beats him, ends the streak and wins the title. That would be stellar.

As for the crazy spot? Shelton and Morrison will have their moments but I am going on record to say that Carlito will do something nuts. He is obviously trying to get back into the good graces of the WWE and what better way than a stellar performance in MITB.

KENNEDY4PRES

03-21-2008, 11:28 AM

Let's Take A look at everyone Here Shall We?

1 - MVP. If he wasn't holding the US Title, I would almost Promise you he would win the match but that title seems to be on his waist for the time beeing. I expect to See A Matt Hardy run in during the match that costs MVP The MITB and re-fuels their Rivalry over the US Title.

2 - Chris "Y2J" Jericho. Almost the same situation as MVP Except for the fact that it's even worse on Jericho's half. That Intercontinental Title has really been losing Prestige as of late (with Hardy never defending it) and I expect him to Lose the match so he can focus on Defnding that Title. If he were to win it, then They should make him drop the Title the night after on Raw.

3 - CM Punk. He could win this match, yet I see him being a surprise entrant in the ECW Title battle royal, which he would win, and then going on to beat Chavoo for the Title. He is almost a superstar, but I don't think he has the experience yet to be a Heavyweight Champion for the WWE.

4 - John Morrison. He is one of my favorite superstars, but being a tag-team champion with The Miz is holding him back. I also don't see him as a Superstar yet for the WWE. Why? Well It just irk's me to think of a Money in the Bank winner from ECW. If he were to get more primetime TV work in then yes, he would have a shot, but I exepect him to be a guy like Hardy who does something Absoulutely NUTS during the match.

5 - Shelton Benjamain - Once again, he is from ECW. While I feel his Title Run Is way Past Due, I don't figure him into winning MITB yet, because he isn't very Popular. The Perfect thing for him to do right now is start a fued with CM Punk after Wrestlemania for the ECW Championship because it would get his name out there andwould be able to put out Multiple 5 Star Matches.

6 - Carlito. He is almost the "Sleeper" pick in this match. He could win it seeing as he threatened to leave the Company last year and they make him win it in order to persuade him to stay. But Like all the other guys, he isn't a main event Quality superstar and he doesn't have the talent yet to be one.

AND THEN, There is Mr. Kennedy.

7 - Mr. Kennedy. Why do I see Kennedy winnin it this year? Well beside him being my idol, from what I have heard, the WWE wants Kennedy to be a Champion for them. And what better way to do it then to make him win it again this year. Think about what he will have going for him, 2 Time Money In The Bank Winner and Defeted the likes of Undertaker, Kane, HBK, Rey Mysterio, Batista, Lashley, Sabu, Marty Jannety, and Chris Beniot in his carrer. He would be on the cusp of superstardom. Also Keep In Mind that he was in the main event for Raw two weeks in a row before last week.

And I also think he get to Supestardom in the same night.

Could you imagine the heat that he would get from running into the WWE Tite Match after Cena or Triple H has one it? And Then Winning the WWE Title?? His Carrer would be shot to the Moon! And he would be the new Big-Money player for the WWE. Think about it. HHH has already had his time in the bight lights, and since he is running the company partially now, he may want to help put over a young guy like Kennedy so he can be the Man for years upon years. Or Cena, who is filming a movie, drops the Title in shocking fashion to the man who also injured him 5 months earlier. It would be a day that Changes the WWE FOREVER!

Seal

03-21-2008, 11:43 AM

Kennedy is most likely to come out victorious, seeing as he really badly needs something to do at the moment, he's had little direction as to where he's going to go since his rivalry with Shawn Michaels ended (didn't consider it such a huge upset when Kennedy won anyway, the whole point of that rivalry was to elevate him)

I'd like to see MVP win also, after a likely feud over the US title with Matt Hardy I could see him cashing in the MitB at the right time, things are always interesting when the holder is a heel. He suits the whole idea of money in the bank anyway, I think he could eventually make a good face however, perhaps a similar turn to Christian Cage where he earns a world title match shows signs of a personality change whilst constantly getting ganged up on, earning the respect of the crowd. At the moment I can definitely see him being ready to hold a world title, more than Kennedy in fact.

CM Punk is another pick, they'd have to save his cash in for some point in the future where Edge is holding the world title. They could do something silly like put him in the battle royal as a suprise, but I'd rather not see that. Best for now that his feud with chavo ends and he goes on to things that don't involve the ECW title. Likely a feud with shelton after WM.

As far as the highlight moves are concerned - I'm looking forward to see what Morrison has up his sleeve, I'm happy they've decided to incorporate him in this match despite his current status as a tag team wrestler. Carlito (has his tag team with Santino split up? If so good, it was nothing special anyways) will likely do a backstabber of the top of the ladder on an unsuspecting climber all the way to the floor which will be painful. And Jericho will run up and codebreaker someone, which won't look too bad. Other than that, expect other unpredictable moves from the people you wouldn't expect.

Mighty NorCal

03-22-2008, 10:03 PM

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-22-2008, 10:15 PM

LOL about the Matt Hardy posts. everyone with HE ISNT EVEN IN IT!!! AND HE WILL WIN??? HOW, OH HOW CAN THAT BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE????

1. like that fucking matters. this is WWE. They just make shit up as they go, when it benefits them. They will work out some sort of lame excuse.

2. The match is supposed to have 8 guys anyway. So that completely leaves things open for Hardy to make a suprise appearance, especially since MVP is in it.

They never SAID "this match for sure only has 7 guys and its gonna be 7 guys and there wont be 8 guys, and Matt Hardy wont be a suprise entrant". Thay just said there would be NO MORE QUALIFYING MATCHES. They never said definitively that Hardy wouldnt replace his brother. And do you really think that WWE is gonna just leave out one of their most steady contributors at the biggest show in the world???? Im not saying for sure he will be back, or he will win, but its dumb for anyone to say its an outrageous idea. It makes tons of sense to me.

I'd say there's almost a 99% chance that he'll do a run in, and thusly, there's a chance he'll be in it, but there's barely any chance that he'll win it. He'll get involved in some way and prevent MVP from winning it, so as to get them back into the feud that should've ended months ago, but Matt Hardy has no shot at winning the Money in the Bank because he has no shot at winning a main event title in the next year. So rather than waste it completely and just have the MITB winner challenge and then lose, I'm sure they would rather use it on someone that they want to move into the main event, like Kennedy or Punk (or Morrison as I'm hoping, but he doesn't have nearly as good of a shot as K/P). But there's a better shot at Matt winning the MITB match than the ECW title, as a lot of people seem to be focused on predicting lol.

rookie

03-22-2008, 10:48 PM

yes he will defently do a run in and knock mvp of the ladder. giving jericho then win and having a angle between jeff and jericho. how ever this would be bad for the ic title so who else to give it to than. mr. kennedy

BDOG

03-23-2008, 01:39 AM

Think of the match last year, just about every guy in there at one stage HAD a WHC fued or wwe title fued, kennedy, booker, orton, edge, finlay etc.

The problem this year is that Y2J and Kennedy are really the only ones that have been main eventers in the past!! so unless WWE is going to take a HUGE stab in the dark and give someone the biggest push in there career i can only see those two being on top...

I can actually see Kennedy winning, then losing costing him his oppurtunity then perhaps a new gimmick from there, sort of like orton, full of rage.. not that he needs it though

moneymoneyyeahyeah07

03-23-2008, 07:36 AM

:suckit:The only thing is I say kennedy will win it but that he dosen't cash in the same night because thiple h is the favorite to win the wwe championship so I say cash at summerslam but he challenges the game like rvd did to cena at one night stand but if kennedy cashes it in at wrestlemania the game will lose because in almost every triple threat match he bleeds leaving him easy to the mic check say thing for orton he wins the match kennedy would still beat him but if that asshole bitch ass cena wins then kennedy would lose because vince wants to make that motherfucker like superman and kicking out of anything if he wins everyone would be pissed if cena won but if kennedy wins the title he will have a great future.

DEAD MAN WALKING EDGE REST IN PEACE!

HellPaso1986

03-23-2008, 07:58 AM

I think that after the three shows this week things will become much clearer:

1) If Miz/Morrison drop the Tag Titles (something that MIGHT happen) I really do see Morrison winning the MitB and then being drafted to RAW, possibly fueding with Cena/Orton/Kennedy later in the year. They've already set up a possible split of the team, what with Morrison beating Miz to get into the match. Also, all the colour commentators could ever talk about late last year (when they won the titles) was the fact that Miz/Morrison hated each other.

2) If not, then I think the case will default to Kennedy. He's earned his way back up in the last year and is ready for another Main Event push. I would say Jericho, but he's apparently been adamant that he's pulling the IC title back up to it's former status as a real title, which I think is fantastic.

Not the MitB match, but I'm really hoping that Kane will win the 24 Man BR and take the title from Chavo. I think it's something that Kane (at this stage in his career) would be likely to do, seeing as it would facilitate him putting someone over as the new champ (Elijah, possibly?). I'm also betting that Delaney will be in there and steal some sneaky pins off the back of Kane/BDV/Palumbo/Khali's work. Should be a fun one to watch, if they keep it short.

Meh, that's just my 2 cents. Feel free to rip it to shreds :P

teamratedcds

03-23-2008, 12:20 PM

Cage917r

03-23-2008, 02:52 PM

mvp and jericho cost each other the match which mr kennedy wins they engage a fued at back lash as the following week on sd matt hardys wins the us title have mvp go to raw fued with jericho and maybe put jeff hardy on sd or something

Although this is a very creative idea, I find it highly unlikely. I guess Kennedy should be the favorite to win the mathc, really only him or Jericho would make sense, none of the other guys in the match are going to be ready to be champion within the next year. If Kennedy wins, I wouldn't jump the gun and expect Y2J to fued with MVP, everybody seems to forget about the Hardy/MVP fued, or you think they will end it quickly. Well I dont think they had it go on for all of those months for no reason, they liked it, and when Hardy gets healthy it will continue. I mean they made it look like MVP injured Hardy, obviously there fued is not over. This happeneds every year, two guys in the MITB ladder match talk about how they are going to win, argue, but usually once the match passes, they are not featured in a fued together, dont expect this to be any different.

Kennedy and Y2J are the favorites to win the match, Kennedy winning would be weak, but it will probably happen becaues they have given Kennedy so many chances, they will probably give him another one. I just hate the idea of the same guy winning MITB two years in a row.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-23-2008, 05:16 PM

I just don't see Jericho winning due to the fact that he doesn't need it whatsoever. He most likely will "build the prestige" of the IC title in the next few months and then afterwards, he can challenge for any title and the fans will accept it at face value. If say, Carlito, would challenge the Undertaker, everyone would go "huh?" But if Jericho would challenge for a main event title, then no problem. So why waste it on him?

Carlito and Benjamin, I can't see them winning, because I can't see them doing anything outside of the ECW title, and they're big enough names that they could win that title without having to "sneak a win".

Morrison, even though I want him to win, I don't think so quite yet.

MVP, no, he's not going to win. He's the best suited to cross over to the main event, without a shadow of a doubt, but that in itself is a reason why he shouldn't win. MVP's momentum alone is astounding. Look at where he was when he made his debut and in this short amount of time he's basically become a main event star. MVP doesn't need it. He could make it way into a feud for a belt with one episode of Raw/Smackdown. Plus, Matt will cost him the match most likely.

So that leaves Punk and Kennedy, the two guys best suited for winning. Kennedy needs a push to the main event on Raw, and Punk needs a push to the main event on Smackdown. I think Kennedy has a slight edge, due to the fact that they've wanted to push him for a longer amount of time than they've wanted to push Punk. As far as cashing it in on the same night, I'd love to see Kennedy walk out of Wrestlemania as the WWE champ, but I can't see it happening. All they have to do is have a backstage segment for one minute, with someone like McMahon or whatever saying he isn't allowed to cash it in that night....or just flat out ignore it and hope the fans don't remember. Yeah, its stupid, but we're talking about the WWE here, who had no problem having "Hornswoggle versus _____" for weeks and weeks and weeks on end.

8five

03-23-2008, 05:25 PM

If Matt is in the ECW thing then odds are he doesnt do the run in and therefore MVP is the favorite. If not the run in is likely and MVP is a a big underdog. I don't see Kennedy winning and if he does I think he uses it one the Edge/Taker winner and not the triple threat. Jericho seems like the favorite but I think its just too soon in his return for him to have MITB and the IC title. Carlito doesn't have a chance, but if he does win he loses the briefcase soon after. Benjamin will take himself out of the match with some sick thing like running up a ladder into his finishers taking someone off a ladder. Morrison was put into a position because they see a lot of potential in him and I think he'll win this next year and be a major player in 15-18 months, but now is too soon. Which leads me to Punk. He and his straight edge style is being promoted to kids and hes starting to do school appearences. Theyve been using him on all 3 shows and gets sizable pops. The heat backstage is obv down with him being the star of the previously stated WWE kids magazine. Basically I can't see a reason for him not to win this. Then sometime around Survivor Series or Summerslam cashing it in, in a surprising way, against a heel champion such as Edge, Orton, Kennedy, Trips, basically anyone but Batista, Taker, or Cena who could be champ at the time. So if Matt doesn't get involved I got MVP winning it but if he doesn't win then I think Punk takes it.

SH1994

03-23-2008, 07:22 PM

Well i dont see it possible for MVP to win i mean he needs to continue his fued wit Matt.
Y2J is my favourite to win i mean look he beat Jeff n before Jeff was suspended it was likley dat Jeff would win so therefore it is very possible to see Jericho walk out as Mr money in the bank and do a count down till Mania and cash it in againsted the possible
WWE champ HHH or Cena and beat tha champ.
If not den the winner will probbally be Kennedy.

warrior12

03-23-2008, 08:28 PM

Y2J doesnt need the MITB to contend for the title. He basically is in this match due to the small reaction from his fued from JBL. I say the MITB winner will be Kennedy with
Y2J rebuilding the Intercontinental Title and contending for the title at SS or Survivor Series.

notyou13

03-23-2008, 09:06 PM

If you really think the wwe is looking for new top wrestler face and heel. I think who ever wins the money in the bank is going to win a title like M.V.P he shows so much talent , CM PUNK the fans are just behind him, and MR. KENNEDY if anyone really reads this i have a feel that MR. KENNEDY is going to win the MITB and later that night after the EDGE VS. UNDERTAKER when the undertaker wins MR.KENNEDY is going to run out beat down undertaker and steal the title and beat the 15-0 record.

Soul Reaper

03-23-2008, 09:52 PM

Now I'm not saying that MVP is going to win the money in the bank, but MVP's hometown is Florida so that is a reason to say he is going to win, but then again last year at wrestlemania it was Randy Orton's birthday and he didn't win. Another scenario is Mr.Kennedy wins and cashes in the briefcase on the Undertaker thus winning the belt, ending the streak, and creating the most shocking Wrestlemania moment of all time. I don't want Jericho to win I want him to keep the Intercontinental title and make it important again like it used to be. Another scenario is when MVP is about to grab the breifcase Matt Hardy does a run in and knocks down the ladder while MVP is on it thus reigniting an unfinished fued.

iceninja

03-24-2008, 04:31 AM

the only logical people to win would be
Kennedy
Jericho
Punk or
Morrison

if punk wins i see him cashing it against chavo who beats the winner of the battle royal
if Kennedy wins he will cash it that night to say he headlined wrestlemania like he stated he would

the only reason Jericho wouldnt win is because he is trying to build back the quality of the IC title which is something that needs to be done anyway he will naturally earn his way back up i think buy doing that and thusly doesnt need to win

in recent weeks they are bringing up again that morrison and miz hated eachother during there matches and if he did win i think he would pull a fast one on either the ECW champ at the time or the Smackdown champ at some stage
Morrison is underused anyway at the moment i dispise his current tag situation and he needs to be at least in ECW title contention

sane

03-24-2008, 10:17 AM

There is only one superstar that could win the MITB and thats Mr. Kennedy or a Surprise entrant.

Mr. Kennedy will win because: -

1 - Last year when he won the MITB he promised he would cash it in a Wrestlemania24, so by Kennedy winning the MITB he could cash it in on the same night
2 - The other stars in the match other then Y2J seem more like ECW / US / IC / TAG TITLE competitors, they dont have the presence of a World / WWE champion
3 - Mr Kennedy has beaten almost 10 former Heavyweight champions and has had great fueds with them also
4 - Since Hornswoggle aint Vince's real son, WWE can restart the search for Vince's son and Kennedy is presented as his Bastard Son creating the storyline which was meant to happen this year
5 - Mr Kennedy attitude is something the WWE fans havent seen in a WORLD / WWE champion which could create a positive impact to the company

The only thing that i feel is slowing Mr Kennedy down is his finisher, it jus does have the same impact or emotion as a PEDIGREE / STUNNER / FU i think u guys know what i mean.

Mr Kennedy will win the MITB (or a surprise entrant)

ramennoodles

03-24-2008, 11:02 AM

yea but cena made a movie when he was champion
the ONLY logical preson to win is kennedy. he is more than ready. he has a huge amount of talent. the writers havent done anything with him. after he won the mitb last year he guarenteed he would headline wm24. now i kno wwe isnt one to follow up on a forgotten storyline but it would be a great angle. the iwc would finally wake up and appreciate what they are doing with a great talent for the first time. kennedys countdown to wm24 was great and actually had me looking forward to a wrestlemania an entire year in advance. kennedy is great on the mic makes a terrific heel and has an arsenal of moves. kennedy would not only be the smart pick to win, he would be the best pick for wwe champion be it on raw or smackdown (but not wwecw. anything but wwecw)

Theo "Hitman" Mays

03-24-2008, 11:40 AM

I think Kennedy wins the MITB and when Trips is celebrating his victory, Kennedy's music will interupt, and we will get the feeling Kennedy is cashing in, but he comes out and holds his briefcase up and thats how WM ends. I don't know, I would like that ending, but thats just me.

HellPaso1986

03-24-2008, 01:23 PM

I really do think that if Kennedy wins it, he'll cash in the case on the same night. Means he'll 99% walk out with the title if he does win it but it could lead to an interesting Fatal Four way fued into Backlash/JDay or even just Kennedy vs Trips. Either would be good to watch.
Still, my money is on Morrison if he and Miz drop the tag titles this week.
Roll on RAW!

wrestlingfan701

03-25-2008, 07:40 AM

After watching raw last night, and after seeing kennedy's "predictions" for wm, that is basically confirmation that he won't be winning MITB. So, wwe did more or less the complete opposite of what smarks on these forums wanted. Not only will he not win MITB but people wanted it to be a surprise, and instead they had him say on the final raw before wm that he would win it and cash it in the same night, which was never going to happen anyway. I can't see mvp winning it either with hardy likely doing a run-in during the match to stop him. It'll probably be punk or jericho, yes, they both lost last night to mvp and carlito, but either one of them will still be winning anyway. And for those who thought kennedy would end taker's streak, lol, that will NOT be happening. By the way, I'm not even a taker mark, but it doesn't take a dumbass to know his streak isn't going to end, especially not in that kind of way.

mattitude2007

03-25-2008, 09:52 AM

Well last night Kennedy did not say he would cash it in that night.

He just said he would win it and cash it in to become champion. Yes, he told Orton a few weeks earlier that he would, but that was a short little segment that they could easily forget about.

There is still no sure winner for this match.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-25-2008, 12:23 PM

WWE is either doing that so everyone will go "yeah right", but then it actually happens...or doing it to reinforce that he won't win. I'd like to see him be the champ, but its not logical right now, so it most likely won't be Kennedy. I think Kennedy/Jericho is going to spawn from the Money in the Bank, and we're looking at Punk or Morrison winning now. Between the two of those, I say the more likely is Punk, even though (as I've said before) I'd prefer Morrison winning.

Why Punk?

1. They've been using him on Raw and Smackdown a lot lately, probably testing to see if he gets the same reaction from other environments.
2. We were told that they're big on him and "we'll see after Wrestlemania"...what better way to say "we're fond of this guy post-Wrestlemania" than to have him pretty much get a guaranteed future world title run?
3. Smackdown has Undertaker, Batista, Mysterio, and Kane...the latter two are never in serious contention to win the top title anymore...so they need Punk to be a buffer between the Taker/Batista group and the Mysterio/Kane group.
4. Though its not a rule, look at the previous winners of the case. Heel Edge, face RVD, heel Kennedy/Edge, so a face might be next.

mattitude2007

03-25-2008, 12:44 PM

I don't understand the Punk predictions honestly. He is mildly over at the moment and has been made to look weak on ECW by losing clean to Chavo twice in a row (which is sad since even an injured rey mysterio beat Chavo as ECW champ)

Punk's time isn't now, he probably has a great future though.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

03-25-2008, 01:16 PM

Well the Punk predictions are for the reasons above, especially in comparison to the others. Shelton and Carlito would be a waste, Kennedy's been made to look like he has no shot (and not in the "overcoming the odds" way), Jericho doesn't need it whatsoever, and MVP doesn't need it on top of his soon to be restarted feud with Matt Hardy. That only leaves Morrison and Punk, and even though I could see both being major players, I think the WWE would choose Punk over Morrison, especially with them trying to market to kids now with the new magazine and everything. It makes no sense to predict things that have no logical basis and are just what you would want to see happen, that's how we get people that predict "Bret Hart will return and have a match with the Rock while Matt Hardy wins the WHC and Colin Delaney runs through a gauntlet of every superstar". If the people in charge of the WWE are a fan of Punk, that's all that matters, cause they'll do whatever they want. Look at how much they've been trying to push Cena since his return as a sob case so we can pity him and root for him...and its not due to "going with the crowd reaction", its "we like Cena, let's see if we can get the audience to like him again". If the WWE is big on Punk, they'll push Punk. If he screws something up behind the scenes like Jeff Hardy, then they make him lose a title, get suspended for 60 days, lose his Wrestlemania bonus, and lose his damn near guaranteed Money in the Bank contract lol.

bige69er

03-25-2008, 06:59 PM

First of all, the participants in this match this year arent good. The only decent ones are Jericho, MVP, and Kennedy. Hardy got his dumbass suspended again, so I think someone will make a return this yer in the MITB. Most likely Matt Hardy. If that happens, it will make the match a little better. I think it will come down to Y2J and Kennedy. Y2J will get Kennedy in the Walls and knock him off the ladder and win. Y2J will win. Actually, it probably was in his contract to if he came back he could win that match. Then he will cash it in and win he belt like he deserves. I think when it comes down to technical wrestling, he is the best in the WWE right now.

Theo "Hitman" Mays

03-25-2008, 07:14 PM

I still see Kennedy winning, but if Jericho wins, he could do some interesting things with the case. Maybe start some sort of countdown, like he could tells us that Summerslam will be the day Y2J saves the WWE and win the Championship from a heel Triple H. This match should be interesting though and I can't wait for it as it is pretty unpredictable.

thedude1

03-25-2008, 08:53 PM

wrestlingfan701

03-26-2008, 02:39 AM

Yes, thedude1 has a point, the wrestlers in MITB this year are the best group they've ever put in one (athletically that is). Realistically, they should make it the best MITB match there has been so far. bige69er probably bases how good matches are going to be on 'star power' alone and nothing else, sounds like a mark to me. He even said he considers shelton, carlito, morrison and punk to be crap. Sounds like people underrate punk sometimes on these forums, he is probably way better than what wwe make him out to be capable of, the same goes for shelton, carlito and morrison. wwe limits what wrestlers do all the time nowadays. There are way too many squash matches on every show, in fact thats all every show is about in wwe every week now, except for lots of highlights and other shit that no one cares about. They purposefully waste tons and tons of time. But anyway, check out punk's ROH stuff, it's probably 100x better than most stuff he's done in wwe. I would say punk is the most deserving guy to win MITB right now. If Kennedy is gonna say he didn't take drugs and then get caught red handed, he doesn't deserve to win MITB right now, this year.

notyou13

03-26-2008, 04:35 AM

[And for those who thought kennedy would end taker's streak, lol, that will NOT be happening. By the way, I'm not even a taker mark, but it doesn't take a dumbass to know his streak isn't going to end, especially not in that kind of way.[/QUOTE]
It is wrestlemania anything is possible and on top of that so much stuff has been going on like Jericho coming back,jeff hardy being the 1#contender, cena
getting injured and returning,rey mysterio getting injured,chavo is ecw champ,Shawn Micheals and Ric Flair,and Batista is not even in the main event he is wrestling umaga.

Shocky

03-26-2008, 04:18 PM

here we go, another terrible, terrible Money in the Bank. Instead of making 4 solid mid card matches out of this match, they throw all of the good, young talent into one match so they don't steal the spotlight off the guys hogging the main event.

Money in the Bank is a train wreck, and it's a damn shame that these guys are all thrown into one match where not one of them is going to shine. They'll be on Mania for the first 20 minutes, and you won't see them again the rest of the night. It's time to scrap this terrible match, but I'm pretty sure people will say how awesome it was because someone flipped off of a ladder.

Anyways, my pick, MVP at this point. I think Kennedy has lost too much momentum, but I wouldn't be surprised if he won though. I think a countdown clock too WM 25 would be a good idea for Kennedy and then him get buried by the Game next year. However, don't sleep on a returning Matt Hardy possibly jumping in and getting this match won.