Live Discussion: ECW 2/5/2008 & Smackdown 2/8/2008 **NO SPOILERS**

[A.J.]

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Party Crasher

CM Punk’s fire has been relit. After defeating Elijah Burke, Punk got a bit of revenge, crashing Chavo Guerrero’s Championship Fiesta on ECW. After smacking Chavo over the head with a mariachi guitar, the Straightedge Superstar grabbed Chavo’s newly-won ECW Championship and boldly stood over him. (Read more…) Punk has ECW gold set in his eyes again, but what will it take for him to reclaim it? (WATCH)

Colin Delaney returned to the ECW ring for a sixth time, this time being defeated in a Handicap Match by WWE Tag Team Champions The Miz & John Morrison. After his latest beatdown, ECW Original Tommy Dreamer came to help Delaney out of the ring. Has the youngster finally caught a break – and a found an ally – in Dreamer? (WATCH)

Also on Tuesday night, Shelton Benjamin took a giant Kane boot to the face, then walked away from the ring, with Kane winning by count-out. Has ECW’s Gold Standard finally found his match in the Land of the Extreme? Is Kane finally someone who can “stop him now”?

Find out the answers to all of these questions and more on the next ECW on Sci Fi, broadcast in HDTV, Tuesday at 10/9 CT. Also, be sure to catch ECW in its entirety every week on WWE.com, available from Wednesday to the following Monday afternoon.

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Rumble fallout

In a Royal Rumble rematch between United States Champion Montel Vontavious Porter and Ric Flair, the “Nature Boy” once again emerged victorious, keeping his career alive. However, the win did not come without cost. After Flair won by disqualification, MVP proceeded to repeatedly bash Flair’s leg against the ring post, capped off by ramming it against the steel ring stairs. After the brutal assault, the refs had to help Flair walk away from the ring. Later, viewers got a glimpse of Flair in the locker room as he writhed in serious pain from his injury. Stay tuned to WWE.com and SmackDown for an update on Flair’s condition, as he prepares to face Mr. Kennedy at No Way Out.

The Rumble also took its toll on SmackDown GM Vickie Guerrero, who was injured while trying to help Edge avoid a Mysterio 619. With an ailing Guerrero absent from SmackDown, the WWE Chairman placed Assistant GM Theodore Long in charge. Long didn’t waste any time getting down to business by announcing that six SmackDown Superstars will face off in an Elimination Chamber Match at No Way Out. Long then dropped the bombshell that there will be a title rematch between World Heavyweight Champion Edge and Rey Mysterio at No Way Out. The Master of the 619 came very close to dethroning Edge at Royal Rumble. Then, in tag team action on last week’s SmackDown, Mysterio & CM Punk defeated Edge & new ECW Champion Chavo Guerrero. Is the ultimate underdog on course to finally end the reign of the Ultimate Opportunist? How will Edge respond to the outcome and Long’s announcement?

Last week, the Brothers of Destruction – Undertaker and Kane – teamed up for the first time in six months to defeat behemoths Big Daddy V and Mark Henry. For the second week in a row, Undertaker used a new submission move to draw the blood of his foe. How many men will The Phenom leave in his path to No Way Out?

Michelle McCool literally brought the “smack down” to SmackDown when she slapped Chuck Palumbo in the face, following his “stupid apology” for injuring her the week before in what he claimed was an accident. Palumbo devilishly warned, “Jamie Noble is going to pay the price for you smacking me.” Will Palumbo collect on the next SmackDown?

Jesse let the SmackDown fans know that Festus is a brand new man, feeling better than ever – thanks to doctors curing his personality issues. He says next week, the duo will be back, bigger and better than ever.

With Guerrero set to return from her injury this Friday, what will the GM have to say about her assistant's match making? Find out Friday at 8/7 CT on The CW Network.

[Mighty NorCal]

dude, fuckin a, gulf of mexico match lol

[C.M.V.P]

Chavo vs Punk?

[justinsayne]

Chavo vs Punk?

Again?

[Lil Wes]

This is going to be classic.

[klunderbunker]

Interesting how Victoria is made to seem like a monster on ecw but is average on raw.

[klunderbunker]

Damn Victoria is gorgeous. Damn Lena is useless.

[justinsayne]

Damn Victoria is gorgeous. Damn Lena is useless.

Who the fuck is Lena?!?

[klunderbunker]

Who the fuck is Lena?!?

Another girl that got hired after losing in the diva search.

[Mighty NorCal]

duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!! Kane Vs SHelton!!!!....I think this will really show how commited they are to sheltons push IMO

[C.M.V.P]

Who the fuck is Lena?!?

Layla?

[Mighty NorCal]

is anyone elses tv glitchin like a motherfucker??? they havent got the HD shit worked out yet

[klunderbunker]

Im liking Delaney more and more every time i see him. Dreamer is a nice addition.

[klunderbunker]

Layla?

Lena is the asian girl who was outside and tripped either kelly or michelle. Her full name is lena yada.

[Mighty NorCal]

ima straight up say it...ECW isnt that bad...

[klunderbunker]

ima straight up say it...ECW isnt that bad...

It really isn't. Giving what they have to work with, they do pretty damn well for themselves. The biggest star on their show is either kane or punk, and the lead heel is Chavo? Theyre doing pretty well indeed. It's an entertaining show.

[Mighty NorCal]

wow wwe really really doesnt have the kinks all worked out yet...this is glitchin so bad, its like everything is in slo mo

[C.M.V.P]

ima straight up say it...ECW isnt that bad...

Better than TNA

[Mighty NorCal]

they have chavo, punk, Shelton, morrison, and the new guy, kingston. and minimal gay promo bullshit. they have promos, but they arent elaborate, and they are effective. A very good wrestling show, IMO

[Mighty NorCal]

hm...maybe a lil baby push for Richards....couldve been better used for a match, but its fine i guess

[klunderbunker]

I never miss ecw, but smackdown? Who cares. Raw is still good, but ECW, which will never be considered a real show by wwe, is still better. GEEZ that scar is wicked looking.

[Mighty NorCal]

straight up ECW is better than RAW...yea fuck it, I said it.

[Mighty NorCal]

SD! is the best show...I never miss it...

[Mighty NorCal]

they should have stevie and dreamer win the tag belts from Miz and morrison, if not just for a lil while

[C.M.V.P]

Smackdown>ECW>Raw


FACT

[justinsayne]

SD! is the best show...I never miss it...

In-fucking-deed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[klunderbunker]

I hardly ever get to watch smackdown. I always read the results though. It does sound like its as good as if not better than raw.

[Mighty NorCal]

alright, my first look at Kofi, ive heard he is pretty innovative

[klunderbunker]

Wow those were some loud boos.

[Mighty NorCal]

the kingston in my game is WAY more ripped than the reallife version i thought he would be bigger lol

[klunderbunker]

nice kick

[Mighty NorCal]

I created Kofi Kingston in SVR, based from what I saw on the promos. He is way smaller than I thought. I liked him a lot tho. if they put him with a better more experienced guy, he should be able to put on a pretty decent match

[klunderbunker]

Yeah squashes can only get you so far and so over. Maybe a nunziio match in his future.

[Mighty NorCal]

Smackdown>ECW>Raw


FACT

damn right sir. Raw blows. SD! owns. ECW is damn good, just lacks star power. But whatever. fuck star power. lol

[Mighty NorCal]

if it wasnt for what happened with Benoit, it might even be closer between SD! and ECW...

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

if Raw stinks why are their ratings the highest? JW?

[Lil Wes]

lol.

[klunderbunker]

if it wasnt for what happened with Benoit, it might even be closer between SD! and ECW...

I was thinking the two should be merged but now i'm not so sure. And damn raw looks really stupid.

[Lil Wes]

Punk comes out to crickets....:lmao:

[Mighty NorCal]

damn its already over though...:(

[klunderbunker]

if Raw stinks why are their ratings the highest? JW?

Mainly because they have most of the stars and midcarders, not to mention it's promoted a million times more than any other show.

[Mighty NorCal]

if Raw stinks why are their ratings the highest? JW?

fantastic question. since it fuckin sucks. lol

Better time slot, flagship show, pushed to be the A show, most star power, has most of the more popular guys. Popular doesnt always = good.

the fuckin backstreet boys were popular.

[klunderbunker]

Stuff like this is why ecw is considered the minor league show. Why are you showing the crowd for 15 seconds. you've got a good idea for a match and you don't even show it. You'd never see that one raw.

[Mighty NorCal]

yea, u see a fuckin arm wrestling match between Mark Henry and Cena. You cant be fuckin serious

[Mighty NorCal]

so u guys think they will have the two chambers right in a row, or raise it back up, and then bring it back down???

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

fantastic question. since it fuckin sucks. lol

Better time slot, flagship show, pushed to be the A show, most star power, has most of the more popular guys. Popular doesnt always = good.

the fuckin backstreet boys were popular.

then why do those fans watch it?.... they have steady ratings for the most part

[klunderbunker]

ECW is definately better at using it's time. They fit in what, 4 or 5 matches in an hour? Not to mention an interview and an in ring segment. They covered just about everything and didn't really have a long stretch of anything boring.

[Grudge]

they knocked the camera man over and instantly cut to break! WTF?
Their gonna come back just long enough to see em get thrown in the water

[C.M.V.P]

so u guys think they will have the two chambers right in a row, or raise it back up, and then bring it back down???

I think 2 E.C. in a row with the Raw E.C being the main event

[Mighty NorCal]

lets see...ECW has none of...

Cena vs orton over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

No Kahli yelling jibberish and being terrible. No ric flair embarassing himself and whomever he is in the ring making look like shit. No Hornswaggle and vince wasting time. No chuck palumbo. No triple H politics.

[Mighty NorCal]

then why do those fans watch it?.... they have steady ratings for the most part

o god, dont try to get all fuckin slyfox jr on me. Read the four or five fuckin things I said directly before that, fool lol

better timeslot, pushed and promoted harder, all the higher profile more popular guys, flagship show. WM continually gets the most buys of all the PPVs. Is it always the best PPV??? fuck no.

[klunderbunker]

lets see...ECW has none of...

Cena vs orton over and over and over and over and over and over and over.

No Kahli yelling jibberish and being terrible. No ric flair embarassing himself and whomever he is in the ring making look like shit. No Hornswaggle and vince wasting time. No chuck palumbo. No triple H politics.

Which equals perhaps the best show of the week in wwe. And they get this using what? WRESTLING. No entertainment, wrestling. Whod've thought thatd work.

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

o god, dont try to get all fuckin slyfox jr on me. Read the four or five fuckin things I said directly before that, fool lol

better timeslot, pushed and promoted harder, all the higher profile more popular guys, flagship show. WM continually gets the most buys of all the PPVs. Is it always the best PPV??? fuck no.

what i thought it was a simple question... I watch Raw every week, and i find it to be enjoyable.

When i watch SD outside of a few things i think it is bad, and i cant comment on ECW because i only watch that on occasion

[Mighty NorCal]

and a pretty decent ending to ECW there. I liked that. the selling of the dsanger of being thrown in was pretty pitiful, but it had a good ending.

[klunderbunker]

and a pretty decent ending to ECW there. I liked that. the selling of the dsanger of being thrown in was pretty pitiful, but it had a good ending.

That gts gets sweeter every time i see it.

[Lil Wes]

Wow. Great match...:rolleyes:

[Mighty NorCal]

Wow. Great match...:rolleyes:

eh it was ok...better than Mark Henry Vs Cena in an arm wrestling match, no??

[klunderbunker]

Further proof that you don't have to be in a ring to have a good match. Raw needs to learn that

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

i am liking Chavo Guerrero though... He should keep the title..

[Mighty NorCal]

yea im glad he is gettin a push, he plays his role well. Im liking the battle overall. Hopefully Punk takes it back at NWO, so we can have Shelton Vs Punk at WM

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

Chavo does deserve a push... Anyone remember Kerwin White?

[Mighty NorCal]

Mighty Norcal explodes thru the curtains, pyro destroying peoples eardrums

[Mighty NorCal]

...to talk to himself for another SD!....I am fuckin PSYCHED for the SHelton Vs Kane Match tonight...

[justinsayne]

God I can't imagine a better WM ME than BDV vs. Edge:rolleyes:

[Mighty NorCal]

MVP fuckin owns...maybe he will be able to do some sorta faceish stuff against the monsters

[justinsayne]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Khali promo, better than the Rock:rolleyes::lmao:

[Mighty NorCal]

Gojira Vs King Kong moment...

[Mighty NorCal]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YES!!!! My name is finlay and I love to fight

[justinsayne]

Oh look Finley's shit is now in black, fucking badass:headbanger:

[justinsayne]

Oh maybe not, just looked black

[Mighty NorCal]

lol, wow nice, didnt telegraph who is gonna win the chamber er nothin did they...

[Mighty NorCal]

gosh damn shelton better go over tonight...if they book him to look like a weak pussy ass bitch again, im gonna be fuckin livid

[justinsayne]

lol, wow nice, didnt telegraph who is gonna win the chamber er nothin did they...

I know, I mean they made it perfectly clear that it's gonna be Khali or BDV

[justinsayne]

gosh damn shelton better go over tonight...if they book him to look like a weak pussy ass bitch again, im gonna be fuckin livid

I'm thinkin' it'll end in DQ, Shelton will get DQed because of a low blow or some shit

[Mighty NorCal]

I know, I mean they made it perfectly clear that it's gonna be Khali or BDV

yea....seriously....

[Mighty NorCal]

god shelton is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad on the mic lol

[Mighty NorCal]

I'm thinkin' it'll end in DQ, Shelton will get DQed because of a low blow or some shit

yea seriously. god forbid any heel besides Big V or Kahli ever ever ever looks strong...couldnt have that...

[justinsayne]

yea....seriously....

What????:D

[Mighty NorCal]

dude seriously, the fuckin blue light is distarcting as fuck

[Mighty NorCal]

is it possible??? I think there is MORE blue light this week...

[Mighty NorCal]

shelton benjamin is the shit

[justinsayne]

Nice neckbreaker

[justinsayne]

I love how the blue light glares off Kane, making him look like a giant member of the blue man group or something:lmao:

[Mighty NorCal]

here wo goooo shelton here we go *CLAP CLAP* here we go shelton here go *CLAP CLAP*

[Mighty NorCal]

that clothesline was ass...

[Mighty NorCal]

HA countout!!!! YES!!!

[justinsayne]

Holy shit Shelton wins via Count-out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mighty NorCal]

aw damn...wonder if edge dumps her tonight...

[justinsayne]

aw damn...wonder if edge dumps her tonight...

Nah, not yet, they'll wait till after NWO to do something like that, I suspect it'll happen after she is fired from the GM position, that way she'll be of no use to him anymore

[Mighty NorCal]

ehhhh got mah wingz cooked....got an entire roll of paper towels next to me...ready to go...no friggin soda left in the house tho...gay...

[Mighty NorCal]

Nah, not yet, they'll wait till after NWO to do something like that, I suspect it'll happen after she is fired from the GM position, that way she'll be of no use to him anymore

yea your right, I didnt realize how moronic what I wrote was til after I posted it lol

[Mighty NorCal]

and I guess Finlay is full fledged face now, seeing his alighnement in the 6 man tag tonight..I like hearing that music get a pop...back at Survivor Series 2006, that music played, and I was the only person who popped like a wild man lol

[justinsayne]

Can they please just release Polumbo already

[Mighty NorCal]

eeeeeeeeeehhhhh....the motorcycle that shelton benjamin should be riding to the ring....

[justinsayne]

I can't beleive they are fighting over Michelle McCool of all Divas...she's really not all that attractive...or talented for that matter:disappointed:

[Mighty NorCal]

Can they please just release Polumbo already

they have a spot for this useless clown, but they cant put Haas on, in a blue blazer or maybe The Patriot mask gimmick....seriousley...Justin...we could do a better job than WWE creative....

[Mighty NorCal]

I can't beleive they are fighting over Michelle McCool of all Divas...she's really not all that attractive...or talented for that matter:disappointed:

meh, I think she is fairly attractive, if for nothing else than the fact that she isnt as prototypical than the other divas....she is out of a different mold ya know...but yea she IS virtually talentless.....

[Mighty NorCal]

gah, saw the motorbike spot a miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile away...

[Mighty NorCal]

ok, so, apparently, if you are the heel, you win matches in this feud....

[justinsayne]

What bullshit...the guy can't get a win to save his ass for weeks then he turns full fledge heel and wins no problem:icon_rolleyes:

[Mighty NorCal]

good ol jaime noble...that boy is sellin like a crack dealer....

[Mighty NorCal]

goodness....are u watching in HD??? Mccool has an ASSLOAD of makeup on

[justinsayne]

Dude, did Polumbo just blow his load?!?!?, that facial expression looked a little....well yeah

[justinsayne]

Why the hell do they give these segments so much time?!?!?

[Mighty NorCal]

dude holy fuckin shit....enough seriously...not that I feel bad for noble becuase of the beating, I feel bad for my eyes having to watch palumpo for such a prolonged amount of time

[brahma62]

im so glad i didnt go to this show, i woulda had to sit through this crap

[Mighty NorCal]

...but we dont have time for charlie Haas in a blue Blazer gimmick...fuckin a...

[justinsayne]

That took forever, Christ not even Cena gets that much time!!!

[Echelon]

Michelle McCool is the worst actress i've ever seen

[Mighty NorCal]

Michelle McCool is the worst actress i've ever seen

that is like almost an exact verbatum quote from me like three weeks ago LOL

[Mighty NorCal]

btw ech, that girl wrassler in your sig is hot

[Echelon]

btw ech, that girl wrassler in your sig is hot

I agree

[brahma62]

duece and domino dont even get an entrance anymore haha, that sucks

[justinsayne]

:wtf:Great they turned Festus into a Saints fan:disappointed:

[The Bearded One]

man...D&D went from champs to what appears to be jobbers...am i the only one who got happy when Jesse and Festus came out?

[Mighty NorCal]

I agree

I like the lil tum tum :)

[Mighty NorCal]

biscuits and graaavaaaaaaaaayyyy

[Mighty NorCal]

both D&D LOOK like beasts, especially Domino...but they wont be shit ever if they keep gettin rolled on like this...:(

[The Bearded One]

owww....that looked like it might have actually hurt

[Mighty NorCal]

...becuase domino sells well...

[Mighty NorCal]

straight up pop for edge...the fuckin maaaaaaaaan

[justinsayne]

Fianlly, Edge time:D

[Mighty NorCal]

Edges entrance in WM 24 will be off the fuckin HOOK

[Echelon]

Is Edge wearing a Lita T Shirt?

[Mighty NorCal]

damn its already 9???? SD! has been ass tonight, besides Shelton Vs Kane...

[justinsayne]

She's in a wheelchair again?!?!...she got hit in the head, what the fuck does she need a wheel chair for?!?

[Mighty NorCal]

shit...look at edge...anyone think he looks quite a bit bigger than usual...hope he isnt juicing...

[Mighty NorCal]

She's in a wheelchair again?!?!...she got hit in the head, what the fuck does she need a wheel chair for?!?

its like the orton arm cast

[justinsayne]

Love the Eddie chants, Haha!!:lol2:

[Mighty NorCal]

with my vickiekins...my snugglemuffin...

fantastic...

[Mighty NorCal]

seriously...Edge is lookin buff...wtf...

[Mighty NorCal]

that wouldve been TOO great if edge wouldve speared Vickie lol

[The Bearded One]

were they chanting eddie or teddy?

[justinsayne]

were they chanting eddie or teddy?

Eddie

[The Bearded One]

Eddie

lol...thats gotta make Vickie feel like crap.

[Mighty NorCal]

the marquee picture of Hornswaggle was fuckin priceless

[The Bearded One]

dang...the backstage announcer is SO hot...this is the 1st time I've watched SD! in weeks, who is she?

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

nice storyline, FInlay will be fired if he interferes in the match Monday night... the weird thing is, he is in the EC at NWO :headscratch:

[Mighty NorCal]

fuck yes, Edge heads....I really like these guys

[Mighty NorCal]

um......ok.....they had this match last week....

[Mighty NorCal]

they need to put the tag belts on the Edge Heads and buikd them how they built MNM....Morrison and Miz could be better used elsewere in singles competition...a Morrison Vs Noble program would be sick...

Morrison tries rubbin all up on Mccool since he is the "shaman of sexay" and noble takes offense...feud, series of awesome matches....damn I should book for WWE....

[The Bearded One]

Jimmy Wang Yang is one of my faves on SD! and I think he deserves some kind of push. Is the announcing always this terrible?

[justinsayne]

Jimmy Wang Yang is one of my faves on SD! and I think he deserves some kind of push. Is the announcing always this terrible?

Yup, ever since they brought in Coach to replace JBL

[justinsayne]

Yeah, I'm gonna be buying that Stone Cold DVD:cool:

[Mighty NorCal]

DAMN this match is on NOW??? they gave this shit crazy time..sweetness...

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

I like the coach :cool:

[Mighty NorCal]

justin...what feuds/ characters would u book right now??? Ive thrown out crazy ideas....please add thoughts to the Norcal/Justin booking team...

[Mighty NorCal]

LiKE TROPICANA, I GOT THE JUICE

[justinsayne]

DAMN this match is on NOW??? they gave this shit crazy time..sweetness...

Well they have to give it time for all the entrances, and then make time for two or three more commercial breaks too, LOL

[The Bearded One]

I can't stand Batista in the ring or on the mic, but he has an awesome entrance.

[Mighty NorCal]

ok, so wtf....Finlay gets the badass awesome music to start the show, and the gay music now...fuckin damn...

[Mighty NorCal]

Well they have to give it time for all the entrances, and then make time for two or three more commercial breaks too, LOL

eh, still 20 minutes tho...shows its superior booking/timing in comparison to RAW were main event matches are given 6 minutes...

[Mighty NorCal]

I thought that was pretty sick them showing everyones faces during the Takers entrance...

[justinsayne]

eh, still 20 minutes tho...shows its superior booking/timing in comparison to RAW were main event matches are given 6 minutes...

That is why SD! is the real "A" show, better matches, better wrestlers, better booking, you add all that up you get a better show

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

I will never forget when i went to the mellon arena for a show, and i was sitting by the entrance ramp, and when takers music hit, i jumped..

Gosh i love his entrance, to bad it will take longer than the actual match :(

[brahma62]

this is one reason i regret not going

didnt get to see wwe's mvp

[Mighty NorCal]

That is why SD! is the real "A" show, better matches, better wrestlers, better booking, you add all that up you get a better show

yesssirr

[The Bearded One]

I'm so glad they went to commercial when Khali got in the ring.

[Mighty NorCal]

I will never forget when i went to the mellon arena for a show, and i was sitting by the entrance ramp, and when takers music hit, i jumped..

Gosh i love his entrance, to bad it will take longer than the actual match :(

UTs entrance = 2 minutes

Match = 20 minutes....

[Mighty NorCal]

psh, whatever justin, this aint got shit on Cena Vs Mizark Henry in arm wrestling....

[Mighty NorCal]

wow that was sorta a whack way to end the show...to crickets...

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

MVP, Undertaker feud anyone?

Not at this moment, but i'd love one in about 6 months or a yr from now