Lashleys Gone???/Wow Man, Lashleys Been Injured? [Archive]

Y 2 Jake

12-22-2007, 05:41 AM

Italian MVP

12-22-2007, 06:02 AM

Yeh, i hope when he comes back he doesnt get a huge push, like winning the rumble cause quite frankly, he doesnt deserve it. He is still green in the ring and hasnt developed enough to became a main event player on Raw. I say keep him in the mid card and have him feud with Kennedy as it will do both of them the world of good, and plus, Kennedy is the one that took him out of action. So i say let him build in the mid card and see how he goes but what ive seen in the two years he has been in the WWE, i say he is nothing more than a mid card powerhouse.

TheOneBigWill

12-22-2007, 08:56 AM

Shit I hadn't even noticed. Considering he's one of WWE's main stars you would tink I would have noticed this. When did it happen?

Seriously? He was injured right before (or during?) that match-up where Kennedy kicked his shoulder against the steel steps. I think he'd been dealing with the injury since Backlash, but it hadn't hurt him too much until around The Great American Bash, or right thereafter.

I think he's got the potiental to be another Brock Lesnar. He has the build, he's got the wrestling background, he just lacks major mic skills. He'll be a solid Main Eventer upon returning. I think if he returned heel, with a manager for a mouth-piece it'd work ten times better for him, though.

RandyKO

12-22-2007, 09:00 AM

Freedom 35

12-22-2007, 04:47 PM

Didn't he get injured before WrestleMania but he kept fighting until just after?
I think that was the case.
He didn't deserve the push before he was injure and unless he has vastly improved since he has been away, he still won't deserve one.
He mic skills are so bland, He reminds me of Batista but Batista's have improved a little.
WWE haven't even started to hype up his return, I don't really think fans give a f**k about him anyway.
Has he even been mentioned since his injury happenned?

yeah he was hurting for a while I remember hearing talks about it around Backlash time

for me Lashley=meh
he was overpushed, I liked his feud with Booker and I liked him in the hunt for the US title on Smackdown but once he got moved to ECW he was given an undeserved push to the moon, he was everywhere he was in big matches and huge feuds and the sad part is he had to be carried in the feuds because he couldnt really talk and still needs to learn his craft in the ring.

I think he will be good eventually, hes too good of an athlete not to be, but not for a few years hes got plenty to learn

johncenalover23

12-22-2007, 05:08 PM

I knew he was gone but I didn't care. I think lashley sux and he needs to improve in his wrestling and mic skills. When they pushed him to win the ecw title that was so stupid and they should have given it to punk at that time cuz he already was a fan favorite and was very good on the mic as well as in the ring. When lashley comes back they should make him fight for the ic title and like everyone else said he should be in a feud with kennedy. I can't wait till cena comeas back cuz kennedy hurt him to and he needs revenge.

El Gato

12-22-2007, 05:41 PM

But seriously though. Has anyone noticed?
I'll notice how much smaller he will be upon his return. =P

Eh, Lashley bores me. He got a push because he was big and because Vince has a hardon for anything dealing with the armed forces. Lashley can't talk, lacks charisma and is really bland and boring in the ring. For someone his size, he was actually one of the weakest wrestlers I can remember seeing. Watching him struggle to give 200 lbs wrestlers running powerslams on ECW was hilarious to me considering he was supposed to be some BIG STRONG GUY!

Rusty

12-22-2007, 10:41 PM

Shit I hadn't even noticed. Considering he's one of WWE's main stars you would tink I would have noticed this. When did it happen?

But seriously though. Has anyone noticed? I don't mind him. I think in a few year he'll be a valuable asset to WWE. But right now I really can't see what he brings to WWE's main event scene. He's a mid carder at best. He's incredibly bland, and green. I'm sure he's preparing for his return. I imagine he'll give a strong showing in The Rumble. But the guy certainly doesn't deserve a huge push upon his return. He was pushed way beyond his talents in 2007, I hope he settles into an IC title push for at least 18 months.

On another note. What is it with WWE psuhing talent too early? Do they not remember that it took years for Hart, HHH, HBK etc to become main event players?

Geez that proves how much you have watched Raw over the last 6 months:P

He has been out for quite a while and I havent heard anything about his return. I thought he would be back right now, but hes not. Anyway he is below average on the mic and there is something about his matches that bore me but I jst cant put my finger on it.

In a few years he will be a great main eventer but WWE has pushed him too soon. He could main event WM25 and definately nor WM24.

What??? U want him to be around the IC title for 18 MONTHS?? That would be a step back for him as he main evented with Cena at the Great American Bash and I thought the match was quite good.

justinsayne

12-22-2007, 10:55 PM

Lashley was injured for a good six months before finally going out and getting the surgery to repair it, he worked through it, and if you noticed after WM, his matches started getting shorter for the most part, I think they just used the Kennedy match as a way of writing him out of storylines and explaining his injury

I agree with Will, in that he could be another Brock Lesnar, in that I think he has all the ability to be that, however I don't think he has the mic skills to pull that off just yet, that seems to be his one major thing keeping him from being a dominant Main Eventer, I like the guy personally and see a ton of potential in him, just needs to work on them mic skills is all

Y 2 Jake

12-23-2007, 04:28 AM

Geez that proves how much you have watched Raw over the last 6 months:P

Every episode, give or take.

What??? U want him to be around the IC title for 18 MONTHS?? That would be a step back for him as he main evented with Cena at the Great American Bash and I thought the match was quite good.

There is nothing wrong with taking a step back. He isn't ready for the push he is recieving. If he was to have a legit title run then he he would fail. He looked terrified at Mania. And I'm sure holding the biggest strap in the company would be just as bad for him. He should be an upper mid carder until he's ready. If the IC actually meant anything then it wouldn't really be a step down. It was very prestigious when Rick Rude, Bret Hart & HBK had it. There's no reason they couldn't build the title up again. And 18 month reign as a champ would make him into a huge star, irrespective of his wrestling ability. Just look what a long title reign did for The Honky Tonk Man. And unlike him Lashley has potential.

TheOneBigWill

12-23-2007, 04:33 AM

There is nothing wrong with taking a step back. He isn't ready for the push he is recieving. If he was to have a legit title run then he he would fail. He looked terrified at Mania. And I'm sure holding the biggest strap in the company would be just as bad for him. He should be an upper mid carder until he's ready. If the IC actually meant anything then it wouldn't really be a step down. It was very prestigious when Rick Rude, Bret Hart & HBK had it. There's no reason they couldn't build the title up again. And 18 month reign as a champ would make him into a huge star, irrespective of his wrestling ability. Just look what a long title reign did for The Honky Tonk Man. And unlike him Lashley has potential.

I agree, if you truly think about it. Triple H., Chris Jericho, Shawn Michaels (w/ European title) all of them held World Championships, then went back & held the Intercontinental Championships.. it isn't a step back.

In a lot of cases, the Championship doesn't make the person.. the person makes the Championship, & Bobby Lashley was never a truly dominate U.S. Champion, however I believe him holding the Intercontinental Championship from say.. Wrestlemania to around Summerslam, or even into 2009.. I think its a good fit.

Esteban Ochocinco

12-23-2007, 07:44 AM

Personally, I'm big on Bobby Lashley. Out of all the young guys on Raw (Hardy, Kennedy, Carlito) Lashley is the best in the ring and has the best future ahead of him. He is Brock Lesnar, minus the ability to control the crowd and minus the charisma. Brock had a knack for the business like no other, (Kurt Angle too). They came in, saw and conquered the business all within a year.

Lashley has huge potential but they are pushing him too hard. Putting the guy in an IC title feud would be wonderful at this point. Same goes for Kennedy. The WWE is so hell bent on putting these young guys into the main event spotlight when they aren't ready. That's still my feelings on John Cena too. I'm really, really hesitant about building a company around someone in their 20's. Cena started to get really enjoyable after his feud with Khali. This is around the time where he should have won his first belt, not be 2 years into a reign.

Lashley has what it takes, he just needs to work on his charisma. i would love to see him incorporate more of his mat skills. It's his strong point, why not use what you're most familiar with using? His match with Benoit was his best match too date in my opinion.

Rusty

12-23-2007, 10:28 PM

There is nothing wrong with taking a step back. He isn't ready for the push he is recieving. If he was to have a legit title run then he he would fail. He looked terrified at Mania. And I'm sure holding the biggest strap in the company would be just as bad for him. He should be an upper mid carder until he's ready. If the IC actually meant anything then it wouldn't really be a step down. It was very prestigious when Rick Rude, Bret Hart & HBK had it. There's no reason they couldn't build the title up again. And 18 month reign as a champ would make him into a huge star, irrespective of his wrestling ability. Just look what a long title reign did for The Honky Tonk Man. And unlike him Lashley has potential.

For starters Im sorry dude about what I said in the other thread, my bad.

Now that I hope that you have forgiven me.....

I know sometimes it is ok to take that step back, but Im not saying he has to win the WWE title. Hes definately not ready yet I agree with you there. But at the moment, the IC title doesnt mean alot. Hardy hardly ever defends the belt. 18 months is a bit long IMO. If he did hold that belt id prefer he'd hold it for under 7 months. Lashley does have potential, but wouldnt it be smart if WWE can make the ECW belt higher than the IC belt since Lashley has already been ecw champ. So what Im saying is that Id prefer he didnt win the belt.

justinsayne

12-25-2007, 12:29 PM

the guy has inring talent that is as good as anyones you name them but the thing i don't like is a champion needs to speak i mean i have heard him talk he talks like he has not even had his voice brocken at teenage years yet and he can not cut a good promo if his life depended on it.

if you guys can show me a good speaking promo he has done i will take this back but good luck finding one.

Well, his promo his promos are even with, if not better than Batista's, and Batista is a campion (well was), so I don't see why Lashely can't do the same, Lashley has loads of talent in that ring, and could wrestle circles around Batista, and to me that's what matters, the fact that Lashley can carry a match, I don't think he's ready to carry the WWE or WHC yet, I think he still needs a little more time

Slyfox696

12-25-2007, 12:35 PM

I've missed Lashley, and can't wait until both he and Cena come back. Lashley's level of improvement over the last couple of years has been phenomenal and the guys has a pretty good idea of how to work in the ring.

And, I want to see Lashley vs. Cena, Part 2.

On another note. What is it with WWE psuhing talent too early? Do they not remember that it took years for Hart, HHH, HBK etc to become main event players?They have to. Outside of the Hardys, who else is left that has been around for a while, and is not in the main-event?

Back when Hart was coming up, they had Savage, Hogan, Warrior...all great wrestlers and big draws. HBK was in the same situation as Bret. HHH has Bret, Diesel, Shawn, Razor(?), Undertaker etc. all ahead of him. Plus, don't forget that the WWE has 3 TV shows these days and monthly PPVs, something that can't really be said for Hart or HBK, and really not for HHH.

Add to that all the departures of their talent that has left early (Austin, Rock, Lesnar, Big Show, Benoit, etc.) and there is just this void that has to be filled with someone.

justinsayne

12-25-2007, 12:45 PM

I've missed Lashley, and can't wait until both he and Cena come back. Lashley's level of improvement over the last couple of years has been phenomenal and the guys has a pretty good idea of how to work in the ring.

And, I want to see Lashley vs. Cena, Part 2.

Holy crap, that just may be the first wrestling related thing we have ever agreed on...everrrrrrrrrrrrr, LOL

I wouldn't mind seeing Cena/Lashley 2 either, in fact I think that if both guys are healthy, and pushed properly (which Cena doesn't really have to worry about), then that could be a WM25 ME IMO, their match at GAB was one of the best matches of the year, and the end actually had me on the edge of my seat, I may not be a Cena fan, and I may give the guy a lot of crap, but he is the, if not one of the, hardest working guys in the company right now, his matches and gimmick may get old/stale/boring, but he's still there when they need him, and I think Lashley is coming along nicely too, I could see these two putting a great series of matches together in the future

sid43201

12-25-2007, 03:24 PM

Okay I understand that everybody has there own opinions in the matter but what ya'll have got to relize is that when HHH, Shawn Micheals, and Bret Hart were in their early days WWE was in it's early days and that there was already big stars tons of them, unlike today there aren't any big stars in the WWE today, so they feel that in order to accompadate for the lack of Main-Eventers they have to give some of the younger stars big pushes before they are ready. And besides why all ya'll haters are talking shit the same company ya'll are trying to rant on put WCW and ECW out of business so they have to be doing something right.

xfearbefore

12-26-2007, 03:11 PM

Lashley...what can one say about him. He's the only wrestler I've ever disliked more then John Cena. No one has noticed or cared that he's injured because why should they? He filled a nice little face void on ECW and against Mr. McMahon (which is the surefire sign than management wants you to be a big time face). They've pretty much thrown every single thing they could behind Lashley....and I'll guarantee you when he returns the pop will be lukewarm at best.

He's just so bland its ridiculious. He has not character. At all. He's a guy who was in the army and is a former national amateur wrestling champion. We've seen that done ten thousand times, and much better.

Frankly, I could care less what happens with Lashley's career. He reminds me of mid 90s Lex Luger---all muscle, no talent.

Batistabomb10

12-30-2007, 07:30 PM

I think if he could develop his in-ring ability and microphone skills, then he could be a very good wrestler, even main-event material. For now, he needs to stay mid-card and develop. He DOES have the potential to be the next Brock Lesnar due to the build and other contributing factors, and considering Vince is surely high on his physique!

KyleCobra

12-30-2007, 11:31 PM

Whats funny is when Triple H was out with this last quad injury, you still saw Triple H signs and DX sings despite his absence.

You dont see Lashley signs. Not that I recall ever seeing them much but you get my point.

I dont think the fans care much. He is near impossible to get behind and get attached to. The man has absolutly NO charisma.

He can improve in ring or on the mic all he wants...but you cannot teach charisma. no way no how.

leigh08

12-31-2007, 02:03 PM

i remember when they made lesnar a heel nd a face, he switched between the 2 about twice, i think it would be pretty cool if they made him a proper badass heel lyk lesnar was, but lesnar played the heel role well because of the monster he was, lashley is an awsum powerhouse but i think he's 2 much of a babyface 2 be a heel, i dnt think he'd make a gd heel if they did that storyline with him when he returns

NYSandman

01-02-2008, 12:41 PM

On another note. What is it with WWE psuhing talent too early? Do they not remember that it took years for Hart, HHH, HBK etc to become main event players?
I think it's because they didn't start pushing the younger guys until the old men started to decline. WWE kept the veterans on top so long they never bothered pushing any of the young guys. Can you say WCW?

Now that veterans are getting hurt, dead, steroided out and the such, WWE has to rush these young fellas into the limelight prematurely. All that happens is the fans shit all over them. Guys like Carlito, Orton, Kennedy and Lashley should have been brought up slowly.

Now, everything is rush rush.

When the hell is Lashley coming back anyhow?

the_phenomenal1

01-02-2008, 12:48 PM

I think Lashley would be much more effective as a heel. I never felt a connection with him as a face, like you do with most.

So i think the title of this topic echoes my sentiments exactly.

It took about 2month before i realised he was missing.

Ex-Degenerate

01-04-2008, 04:51 PM

Esteban Ochocinco

01-04-2008, 05:18 PM

Lashly is the next Brock Lesner, who was suppose to br the next Goldberg. A big muscle guy who has just average wrestling skills, and is poor on the mic, but has that Incredible Hulk like indestuctible persona. He wil get a big push', cause Vince likes the "big dumb guys" look (like Batista and Mark Henry) more than the little guys.

Wrong, I thing that is the only way to describe this response, and particularly any response involving the words of Lashley, Can't, Wrestle. Just to go all Slyfox on everyone, I love Sly and his smartassness.

Amateur wrestling

Lashley attended Missouri Valley College, where he won three national amateur wrestling championships between 1996 and 1998, placing fourth in 1995. Throughout 1997 and 1998 he was the NAIA National Wrestling Champion, competing at the weight of 177 pounds (80 kilograms). Lashley later joined the United States Army, where he continued to wrestle.

Guy sounds like a complete and total hack to me. I mean, why wasn't he NCAA Champion, the guy must be a complete jerk off. Seriously, the Lashley can't wrestle comment is possibly, possibly stupidest comment that anyone can say on these forums anymore when clearly the man can wrestle.

# Amateur Wrestling

* Armed Forces Championship (2 times)
* CISM World Championship Silver Medalist in 2002
* Missouri Valley College National Championship in 1996, 1997, and 1998
* NAIA National Wrestling Championship in 1997 and 1998

Just a little more credibility there. Yup, Lashley won the Armed Forces Championship, must be something easy to do against all of those pussies in the military :rolleyes:

Seriously, get off the Lashley can't wrestle bullshit, it's just plain wrong, plain and simple. If you want to be pissed with the WWE wanting to book him as a powerhouse instead of a grappler, blame the WWE and it's uncreative staff that thinks anyone over 250 pounds of muscle is just a powerlifting meat head.

The WWE has taken Lashley out of his comfort zone, and that's on the mat. Yes it looks more impressive to attempt to perform a Dominator on the Big Show and botch it then to have a great mat wrestling match with Chris Benoit on the Draft show, but that's on the WWE, not Lashley. The guy is uber-athletic, and an amazing ground and pound guy. If the guy is booked properly, Lashley will be the biggest star in the company, he just has zero mic skills working against him.

mattitude2007

01-09-2008, 06:20 PM

Lashley....I really really don't like the guy.

He seems to be a Brock Lesnar that lacks any and all charisma.

Lesnar was good. Quite good. Lashley? I don't see him as a main eventer period.

Batista is actually solid on the mic now, and even before his improvement Batista had more charisma than Lashley has now.

HartsyThaiFood

01-23-2008, 10:44 AM

Just read on the main page. I don't know if I believe this or not. This is bizarre. Really bizarre. Here's the story if you haven't seen it....

According to Bobby Lashley’s official website www.BobbyLashleyOnline.com, the former ECW Champion has parted ways with World Wrestling Entertainment.

Lashley wrote the following in a forum post:

I am sorry to everyone here but I am serious when I say I won't be back. Everyone wants to come here and hear the real story and I am telling you the real story. Circumstances which are out of my control left me no decision but to leave the WWE. I can't go into details of this now but like I said before sometimes people will hate you personally and try to destroy you which has happened here. Evil has prevailed however like I said before if you continue your struggle doors will open around these people. You have not scene the last of me so please don't stop your support. Add Bobby Lashley to the list of RECENTLY RELEASED!

Nothing has been confirmed by WWE. We will certainly have more on this story as we get it.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn

01-23-2008, 10:53 AM

If this is true, then this could be a major blow to the WWE. Not to bring race intot he picture, but it seems very peculiar that two big named african-american WWE stars have quit within the last year after moving the RAW, which has been rumored to be a show filled with alot of backstage politics.

If TNA were able to pick up Lashley, it would be the biggest blow to the WWE that they have ever pulled off as they would be picking up a big named staron the rise rather than one who could easily be called past his prime.

All of this is contengient on whether or not the story is true or not. This could all be just juicey gossip, a site hack, or a ploy to get a bigger contract. Any number of explainations could attribute to the news. So I wouldn't get too overly excited about it until some sort of acknowledgement comes from the WWE site itself.

Low_Ki

01-23-2008, 10:56 AM

Sound's like backstage politics to me. Anyone agree?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge Lashley mark, but it does suprise me purely because before he was injured the company was pushing him so fiercley. We can only speculate but it really does seem like he has been driven out in some form.

Meilichia

01-23-2008, 10:58 AM

I'm not quite sure if I believe this, I mean Vince was really pushing for Bobby Lashley, which seems to be a bit weird if he has left WWE. I hope he hasn't, I enjoyed watching him wrestle, it'd be a big blow to the WWE, and probably a huge gain for TNA.

Skullz Crack'Em

01-23-2008, 11:00 AM

I am having a hard time believing this one, Vince had Bobby set to succeed as one of WWE's top stars in the near future, so he must of had a huge reason to quit. We haven't read any negative reports about Lashley/WWE ever since he debuted so this comes as a surprise to me, this explains why he didn't return last month when he was rumoured to come back. I am not going to miss Lashley very much, I was never a big fan of his, but he did put on many decent match-ups and with a bit of work, he could have became a major player in the WWE like HBK, Taker, HHH, Cena, Batista, etc. He was just getting to the top(I don't include the ECW title because the World/WWE titles are the two big ones). Then again, this could all be a work orchestrated by Lashley and the WWE so they can surprise everybody when he returns at the Royal Rumble match as the #30 entrant and wins the whole damn thing.

SpiralHands

01-23-2008, 11:01 AM

Man I was so shocked when I read this, I thought he was on his way to back to WWE soon and I was looking forward to it but obviously hes not coming back, or so it appears. It could be any number of reasons why he has parted way and if it is to with backstage politics this is a good thing for TNA, if TNA could snatch him, it would be a HUGE steal and I would love to see him in TNA but we shall see first if this is true and second what happens next!

HartsyThaiFood

01-23-2008, 11:13 AM

I have a feeling this is either a big work or someone just created a Bobby Lashley profile and began posting under it on the board/hacked the account. Something about it just seems really fishy. I mean, why wouldn't he put the news on his main page, but rather on his forum. I dunno.

If this is legit, though, it is going to be bad news for WWE. I was by no means a Lashley fan, but him leaving would definitely be a big blow to WWE. Not because they're losing talent, but as someone said upthread, it will appear they are losing talent based on race. Some backstage racism in the WWE, perhaps, rearing it's ugly head?

Nasty_B

01-23-2008, 11:16 AM

IrishEnglishman24

01-23-2008, 11:23 AM

this is fantastic news, it takes one muscle freak out of the way that would have held the rightful main eventer Jeff Hardy down

Lashley may be a muscular guy, but he could destroy jeff in a legit wrestling match. as a 3 time national amateur champion, armed forces champion and world military wrestling championship runner up.

but then why would a wrestling company want a wrestler when they could have people who jump off things.

Ha Ha

01-23-2008, 11:29 AM

man this sucks, i am a big Lashley fan, not because both of us are black, but i feel if this is true i think race could be an issue. i even think back to the storyline with hhh and booker back when they had to face at mania. that was some heavy crap hhh was saying. But it seem like blacks have a hard time on the raw roster booker, lashley, boogieman, cryme times storyline. but i cannot put this on race, it seem like everyone has a hard time on the raw roster. i love hhh, but is he the next hogan, always holding people down. i think so

p.s
if you really want to piss off a black guy try to hold him down
(this is not a post to start up race it's just facts, everyone has things that piss them off)

Skullz Crack'Em

01-23-2008, 11:32 AM

If it is backstage politics that have made Bobby decide to leave WWE, I wouldn't be surprised if HHH had anything to do with it, given his reputation for holding wrestlers back. Perhaps he saw Bobby Lashley as a threat, as someone who could take some or all of the Limelight away from him.
Like the statement from his Website "Evil has Prevailed". The "Evil" could be HHH.

Here we go again. Triple H is not the Anti-Christ! Lashley and Trips haven't even stepped in the same ring together, so what are you saying, that HHH buries people before they even have a match with him? If Triple H was the cause of Bobby's departure, he wouldn't of had a problem saying "Triple H is a douchebag!" since he is done with the company. Like previous posters have stated, this might be an issue of racism, but I am not going to assume anything yet because this has a good chance of being a false report.

baken1942

01-23-2008, 11:33 AM

I'm not too sure on this yet either. Like everyone has said, we havent seen any bad reports about Lashley/WWE since he has been in.

Ive been getting stoked to see him cuz I am going to be at the Royal Rumble, but who knows this could all be a work...

ABS

01-23-2008, 11:58 AM

Notihng is Confirmed at the Moment and I see this as All BS. Nothign is up on WWe.com so till then I wont take anything into consedration other than that they will surprise us and hes goign to win the rumble.

DeadmanInc.

01-23-2008, 12:06 PM

Well I was really surprised when I read that. But who knows, it could be a promo? Maybe Lashley will make a surprise return at the Rumble.

I can't think of many reasons why Lashley would leave. He was definitely set to be one of the future big stars of the WWE. It must have been something horrible if this is indeed true.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

01-23-2008, 12:36 PM

Sounds to me like its fake. Why would Lashley post it on a forum and follow up on it, rather than just put it on the website itself? That and the fact that WWE.com hasn't mentioned anything.

Take it with a huge grain of salt.

Esteban Ochocinco

01-23-2008, 01:02 PM

Well you have to take the reports with a grain of salt at this point, which I think most everyone has so far. But clearly, clearly if Lashley is done with the company, it's a huge, huge blow to the company. People like to rag on Lashley, but he was being built as the next big major face in the company. He had the look, and he was a perfect face to go with the WWE's new image.

Plus, this is the first WWE created black superstar that could make it to the next level. Hopefully this is false, which I think it is, but you never know.

C.M.V.P

01-23-2008, 01:39 PM

chickenfinger47

01-23-2008, 01:40 PM

WZ has confirmed the release of Lashley here is the story

The following was written by Richard Gray:

We are now able to confirm that Bobby Lashley is gone from World Wrestling Entertainment. In a phone call placed to WrestlingNewsWorld.com's Ryan Gray, Lashley said that he is gone from the company. While he would not give any specifics he made it clear that he did not want to leave but had too due to circumstances beyond his control.

Lashley told WrestlingNewsWorld.com's Ryan Gray that he was training hard for a potential career in Mixed Martial Arts. The former ECW Champion said that despite the fact that he wanted to pursue an MMA career, it would not be with UFC.

Lashley would not comment on whether or not he would be interested in going to TNA Wrestling. He said that WWE has granted his release but it would not be announced until the paperwork was finalized.

In my opinion this is a huge blow to the company and I truly believe that his decision had to do with Race, its odd to me that the 2 prominant black superstars have left the company after going to RAW. WWE is really falling apart, I attended Smackdown last night and the place was about 1/3 full. TNA is the new kid on the block and I think we will see it keep on rising

Esteban Ochocinco

01-23-2008, 01:44 PM

It has been confirmed Lashley is gone from WWE. I'm shock he's gone from WWE because I didnt believe the early reports but now it has been confirmed I think this is a big loss to WWE especially if he goes to TNA because they spend a lot of time building him up & he's still pretty young. I'm curious what reason made him leave WWE

Boy oh boy. I'm still waiting for confirmation on this thing, but it's starting to look that way now isn't it. As far as the bolded statement goes, I would doubt we will find anything out before too long. If there was indeed something "beyond his circumstances", and it is race or politically driven, Lashley will have to remain silent on it as a term of his release. If there is something so bad going on that it forced Lashley to leave, the WWE certainly wouldn't allow that to come out.

As far as TNA. It's certainly an opportunity, but it won't happen, at least while the terms of his WWE contract are around. He will probably have a no compete clause, and I would probably venture a guess that will include MMA as well. He will essentially be paid to sit and relax until his current contract runs out.

The WWE: If this is true, yet another huge blow to the company. The WWE was injury prone in 2007, and the only guy that stepped up from the midcard to a solid main eventer was Bobby Lashley. Couple this with the loss of Lesnar, these are two huge blows to the company.

Finally: How do we know for certain it had to do with the WWE as well. Could this be an issue concerning Lashley and steroid use of some kind. If you look at pictures of Lashley from no more then five years ago and now, there is a substantial change in physique for the man? You never know, it could be a Lashley circumstance, and not a WWE.

Trance Metaphor

01-23-2008, 01:47 PM

What's with all these Pro Wrestlers turning to MMA afterwards in their careers? They're all pulling opposite Tank Abbots and Ken Shamrocks.

There should at least be a match between Bobby Lashley and Kurt Angle.

Papa Shango

01-23-2008, 02:08 PM

Well, this was definitely not something I was expecting. Although I did find it weird that since Lashley was scheduled to return in Dec, WWE didn't have him return ASAP and push him to the Royal Rumble. This is a strange puzzle to put together. He says WWE granted him his release, so that means he wanted to quit, yet he refers to leaving as being due to circumstances beyond his control. Evil has prevailed? IDK, this is weird. Maybe his shoulder beyond full recovery. Although, to be honest, it wouldn't be shocking to me if he failed a drug test and he's pulling a Booker T. Actually, after everything that's gone down this past year, nothing would surprise me. Remember a few weeks back that WZ reported there was one guy in the locker room that everyone thought was clean who suddenly dropped twenty pounds. Well, I personally hadn't seen any real drastic weight loss on TV, which led me to beleive that maybe it was an inactive talent; Cena or Lashley.
Personally I think Wrestlezone Radio should book Lashley for the show ASAP. I like hear what he has to say.

Jonny B

01-23-2008, 03:12 PM

This all seems a bit suspicious to me. A week before the Royal Rumble Lashley suddenly quits the company. Sorry but that doesn't fly with me... personally I think this could be some kind of work that will allow for his entrance into the Rumble to be a complete and total shock, they could even be building some other storyline related to the work, remember how much trouble Lashley had with Vince on screen? This could just be some kind of extension of that.

I'm not saying it definitely is a work, but it seems possible to me.

joejoe

01-23-2008, 03:16 PM

I won't buy this until it is actual on the wwe website.

If Lashley is gone, big deal.
He was a below average at best in ring wrestler and was horrible on the mic.

I don't know What Lashley would bring to TNA if he were to go there besides name recognition.

My guess...he failed a drug test...was told he is going to be suspended then said f it I want my release.

Meh is what I say about Bobby Lashley.

jamesjd66

01-23-2008, 03:39 PM

Seriously... Who cares. The WWE has doing just fine without him and I've been living in fear of when he'd comeback and take someone's deserving (JHARDY) main event spot. As far as the race card goes... maybe it's tru. Perhaps thats why they had Shelton win the battle royal last night, and then crowned Chavo new ECW champion. Trying to cover all of there bases i guess.

If thats not it... it's most likely that he would comeback "post signature pharmacy" looking as skinny as Flavor Flav. You know Lashley was sipping the JUICE.

I'd also like to be the first to welcome Lashley to WZ Exclusives.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

01-23-2008, 03:46 PM

For one, I have to agree with JoeJoe. Lashley was ok in the ring, but nothing spectacular, and he was abysmal on the mic, so it isn't like they just lost the Undertaker or McMahon or something that would really put a dent in the company.

Secondly, people are claiming race on this but there's no justifiable grounds for that. Nothing so far has been mentioned to indicate its a race issue. Just because Booker T left and now possibly Lashley, does that mean all black people have to go in groups? Lol. If I follow another white guy in doing something, is it race related?

Anyway, it also says that he didn't want to quit, but circumstances "beyond his control" forced it. To me, that doesn't sound like Lashley going up to the powers at be and saying "let me out of my contract you assholes". It sounds more like something along the lines of his injury worsening and them not wanting to pay him any longer for being out for a few more months. Maybe its a situation like Marcus Cor Von just went through?

Either way, someone saying "I can confirm it" means nothing unless its WWE.com, so if its true, oh well, but I wouldn't believe it if I were you guys until the official website posts something about it.

HBK-aholic

01-23-2008, 03:48 PM

I'm quite upset Lashley is leaving actually. He's a good wrestler and he has a lot of potential. I was expecting a push for him, so I am surprised as well. I don't think him leaving is best for the WWE, as he could do his job, and until I find out the reason behind his departure, I'll stick by that.

I think this could also be the time WWE's rivals, TNA take their chance and try and sign him or at least offer him a contract with them which would give him something to think about. Depending on the terms of his departure, he may also see it as a way of getting the WWE back. What better way then to try and help their main rivals beat them for ratings?

This all seems a bit suspicious to me. A week before the Royal Rumble Lashley suddenly quits the company. Sorry but that doesn't fly with me... personally I think this could be some kind of work that will allow for his entrance into the Rumble to be a complete and total shock, they could even be building some other storyline related to the work, remember how much trouble Lashley had with Vince on screen? This could just be some kind of extension of that.

I'm not saying it definitely is a work, but it seems possible to me.

I'm with you for this being an option. WWE needs something shocking, something to grab hold of all the fans slowly slipping away, and this seems like a good thing to do, if it's actually true. But at the same time; if it was all being worked up into a storyline, I can't help but think the WWE will have been pushing his departure more, at the very least posted on WWE.com.

Ha Ha

01-23-2008, 04:03 PM

Secondly, people are claiming race on this but there's no justifiable grounds for that. Nothing so far has been mentioned to indicate its a race issue. Just because Booker T left and now possibly Lashley, does that mean all black people have to go in groups? Lol. If I follow another white guy in doing something, is it race related?

now hold on now on the raw roster if bobby is gone that leaves zero blacks on raw. on smackdown there is 5 black superstars, and on ecw there is 6. that means when raw travels there is maybe 1 black wrestlers, and when ecw/smackdown travel there is 11 or 12. there is something wrong with that number. like i said before if you want a black man to quit try holding him down. it's a mind set. i don't care i love hhh as a wrestler but behind the set you here to much. he is killing the wwe

Freedom 35

01-23-2008, 04:39 PM

Im not gonna lie to everyone here this is pretty sad, I saw alot of potential in Bobby Lashley and now it looks like it could be going in the shitter. He was a good in ring worker and with his natural athletic ability he had the potential to be great in the ring.while his work on the mic was nto good I always thought a good manager could fix that and he could be seen as legit yet again, either way it looks like all that potential has gone out the window unless Jonnys right and it is a work, but this looks like another case of wasted talent at least IMO

Lil Wes

01-23-2008, 04:52 PM

-- There are a lot of reasons why he wants to leave. One of the reasons has to do with how his girlfriend Kristal Marshall was treated by WWE after refusing to do an angle that made her feel uncomfortable. She was fired from the company after refusing a storyline that's been described as "racial".

-- Another reason is that Lashley feels disrespected by WWE during his time off. There has been very little communication between Lashley and Vince McMahon. Despite the fact that Lashley is fully healed from his injury, there were no firm plans in place to get him back on TV. He naturally found this very frustrating.

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WZ.com

I doubt it's a work if fact I think we can pretty much throw that idea out of the window. I knew this was going to have something to do with Kristal being canned by WWE so that had to be pretty frusterating, as for McMoron not keeping in touch with him, what a load of shit. I bet Vince checks up on Cena every fucking week and has plans for him immediately, Here's a guy he overpushed for about a what? 5 month period? Got him super over with fans during the Cena feud and established him as a main eventer, then he doesn't even have any plans for him? ROFLMAO, nice job Vince. It's a waste of talent no doubt, they guy could have gone far like Lesnar but they obviously have pissed him off, I still say theres more to the story that we'll hear in the next few days.

As of now, without a doubt in my mind. He'll go in TNA, which sucks because that company is going nowhere.

And what the fuck is with these wrestlers thinking of going to MMA? Isn't there drug testing there? He wouldn't pass, and it's a huge switchover but meh, sad to see him go, he had potential.

A.J.

01-23-2008, 05:20 PM

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WZ.com

I doubt it's a work if fact I think we can pretty much throw that idea out of the window. I knew this was going to have something to do with Kristal being canned by WWE so that had to be pretty frusterating, as for McMoron not keeping in touch with him, what a load of shit. I bet Vince checks up on Cena every fucking week and has plans for him immediately, Here's a guy he overpushed for about a what? 5 month period? Got him super over with fans during the Cena feud and established him as a main eventer, then he doesn't even have any plans for him? ROFLMAO, nice job Vince. It's a waste of talent no doubt, they guy could have gone far like Lesnar but they obviously have pissed him off, I still say theres more to the story that we'll hear in the next few days.

As of now, without a doubt in my mind. He'll go in TNA, which sucks because that company is going nowhere.

And what the fuck is with these wrestlers thinking of going to MMA? Isn't there drug testing there? He wouldn't pass, and it's a huge switchover but meh, sad to see him go, he had potential.

I think you said a mouthful there sir, but what you did say would see to be correct. I mean honestly how can McMahon expect Lashley to feel when you dont even have an idea what to do with the guy when he comes back. Of course the have plans for Cena, but damn he worked so hard to put Lashley over even feuding with him himself. Here the kicker i believe for Lashley and that is they didnt even mention him on air like they do with Cena, or have him show up to make an appearance.

Lashley when he got hurt was like in the witness protection program we never heard of him again. He could have been mentioned or show how he was progression I mean he was over as a face and starting to be a headliner, but nope he goes away.

TNA will try once he no compete clause is up and I wouldnt blame them to try and get him least for an Angle vs Lashley match. Then again who knows what he will do i mean vince could convince him to stay.

PhiSig1873

01-23-2008, 07:12 PM

This was posted on Kristal Marshall’s official myspace page on her new blog dated today at 6:32pm which is almost word for word with what you guys posted prior to 6:32pm…(credit Sean Barcus for this)

Hey my boyfriend bobby lashley and i are really upset/disgusted over the fact that wwe is a racist company i guarantee almost everything i got that Vince McMahon is! First was ME Then Booker T Sharmelle Marcus Cor Von whos is next?? Well Bobby Lashley is you know why because the WWE is Releasing Him One of the factors that lead to his fallout with WWE has to do with the way I was treated after refusing to do a storyline that made me feel uncomfortable. I was fired after refusing the storyline that's been described as "racial".

-- Another reason is that Bobby feels disrespected by WWE during his time off. There has been very little communication between Him and Vince McMahon in the past few months. Despite the fact that bobby was fully healed from his injury, there were no firm plans in place to get him back on TV. He was really found frustrated about it.

At this point, Bobby needs to negotiate an official release from WWE as he is still under contract. He is still listed on the official WWE website and is awaiting his release so he can move on!!!

Thank YOu For Reading This Love Ya!!
-Kristal!
6:32 PM - 11 Comments

Saiquan

01-23-2008, 10:10 PM

it seems pretty funny that almost all the black people in the WWE are disappering.

Boogieman,Cryme Tyme,Booker T, and know Lashley.And you ask waht they all have in common is that they were let go or quit while on the RAW BRAND.Not tryin to be racial but if Lashley leaving is true then the WWE can forget the steroid scandal because then they'll have a racial scandal on their hands.Can someone picture the NAACP backstage at Raw?

a7xoff

01-23-2008, 10:11 PM

Meh I don't see WWE getting hurt from this at all. Sure he'll probably wind up in TNA one day, but I don't think that Lashley will give TNA too much of a boost. Certainly no more then Angle. As far as WWE is concerned... This could be the opening that someon like say... Jeff Hardy needed. Mabey now Jeff will remain near the main event. While Lashley was out a lot of people forgot he was even there. I know I did, and obviously I'm not alone on that from the looks of it. I hope if and when he gets released he is able to move on realitivly quickly. Again, I really can't see WWE hurting badly at all... Things will just continue as normal. Although I can't blame Lashley. There's been not a word really said about him since he was injured.

TheRealLionheart089

01-23-2008, 11:00 PM

It's not like he'll do any better in TNA as far as race is concerned.
Think about it, when Rhino, Scott Steiner, Christian, Kurt Angle, and Sting came to TNA, they were featured CONSTANTLY in the main events AND given title reigns (well, except Steiner, but he was in main storylines). But when Booker T came, he was in the main event how many times, like two? And where is he now? Sometimes when I watch TNA, I almost forget he's even there.....seriously. And besides, didnt Konnan say a lot of people behind the scenes in TNA are racist? hmmmmm.....

But even if the whole 'racist TNA thing' was just a coincidence, and if Lashley does get signed by TNA, it'll just add to the fact that TNA is for 'WWE Rejects' and most the TNA Originals (what left of them anyways) will probably be even more discontent with TNA.......

TimmyTallsoxx

01-23-2008, 11:02 PM

ok i disagree that the wwe is racist i mean look mark henrys been there for longer than most people on the roster and happens to be one of the worst performers in wwe you may agrue hes only there because vince likes big guys welll look at lashley hes a monster . i just think that hhh gets what he wants and doesnt even think about other peoples returns(until cena comes back)

Total Impact

01-23-2008, 11:37 PM

Booker T doesn't want to be push to the main event, he wants to use his name to get others over as that is what he liked doiing the WWE as he made Lashley.

But Lashley has made the biggest mistake in his career. Quiting the WWE over his girlfriend. Not wife, not fiancee, but girlfriend. I mean Krystal is one fine woman and with that booty she got I might think about quiting a job too, but I wouldn't quit a million dollar a year contract, for a piece of ass.

I mean he worked for the WWE, is on the road all the time, I pretty sure another piece of brown sugar would of came by and he would of forgot about it. But Lashely said he had to leave,well that's the end of his career.

TNA won't know how to book him, I mean the guy sounds like a bitch on the mic, and can only have a good match with a good worker. So if he is gone, whatever, I mean the WWE isn't going to miss, hell they couldn't find a way to get him back on TV, so I guess thats how much Vince cared.

Lashley, never quit a job or anything for a girlfriend, I understand your wife, but a girlfriend is just like a toliet, full of shit. And this is from a man who quit something for his girlfriend and she left me two weeks later.

He will be begging the WWE for is job back within three months.

Mighty NorCal

01-24-2008, 01:08 AM

Honestly, I just dont really think I fully belive this yet, as in, I dont think its true, or it aint gonna happen, like others have said.

Firstly, I dont belive something like this would just come outta nowere 5 days before the royal rumble. I mean wouldnt we have heard something about Lashley being unhappy leading up to this??? Kristal was released when? Wasnt it in september or october?? And he is just NOW quitting the WWE becuase of it??? And im not beliving the whole WWE is racist crap either...last time I checked, a balck guy with a fucking Malcolm X tattoo on his chest is the fastest rising star in the company... Im waving the bullshit flag on that one for now....

And saying Mcmahon had nothing for him at all??? I also find that hard to belive, when Lashley had one of the hugest pushes of 2007!! Having the ECW title, working in the "real" main event at WM, the rivalry with Mcmahon, the huge match with Cena at GAB, I just doubt they would have NOTHING in mind for him when he came back...just doesnt sound right...

And, even if this is true, he isnt officially gone yet. Everyone knows how these things go. Vince, or whomever will probably talk him down, and lay out some huge plans for him or whatever. How many guys have we heard of that were "done" with WWE, and then getting talked down, and given an angle they liked (ric flair is the most recent example of this)....

Id say to wait til he is officially gone, to feel one way or the other on this...as of right now, im just not convinced...

Y 2 Jake

01-24-2008, 01:25 AM

I doubt he'll go anywhere. There will be some dispute until Lashley realises that he's being stupid. He'll then make a surprise return at Mania, or the next night's Raw. I'm pretty sure his friends in the company will tell him that he's stupid if he quits over a woman.

I suspect this has something to do with Kristal. But at the end of the day Lashley is being an idiot if he leaves WWE. He was feuding with Cena before he left. He's not going to get it any better anywhere else.

kieran_devlin

01-24-2008, 08:32 AM

the fact is they had more guys to push in WWE that had been in the mid card for years like matt hardy, Shelton Benjamin, chavo who obv got his major push

they could have pushes Kane, Dreamer, hmmmmn any of the main event who hadnt had a belt in years really

but they choose to push a green wrestler and go BABYFACE

i mean what is it with Babyfaces they suck cant wrestler and have zero entertaining mic skill

okay Hogan was entertaining but not a very good wrestler in ring
warrior was a fucking joke
Batista cant wretle a match since hes turned babyface
Cena obviously is a shit babyface
Michaels is frankly boring as a pure babyface where he is a much better tweener
Lashley just plain sucked yeah he had a developing skill but that would take years to perfect

he was someone who could have been a player in years i think he should have done the indy for a year at least

robwylde90

01-24-2008, 09:16 AM

As lashley wouldnt have been able to portray a heel in a million years then really I dont think its such a big loss. It just changes WM 25 to Orton vs Cena rather than Cena vs Lashley which I could have seen coming.

HBK-aholic

01-24-2008, 09:25 AM

I don't believe that if Lashley is leaving it has anything to do with racism. The WWE isn't a racist company. If it was every competitor would be White American. This isn't the case, and as people have said, just look at Mark Henry. He's been there for longer than a lot of people, and it can't be about his talent.

I aren't sure whether I believe all the reasons that he has left because of. Whatever it was, I know it wasn't racially aggravated. The stories about his girlfriend could come out as true; he may have been pressured into leaving by her.

HartsyThaiFood

01-24-2008, 10:28 AM

Maybe I'm just ignorant to this whole situation, but i guess to me, it seems like Lashley is being a bit of a bitch.

"Oh no, Vince McMahon didn't always call me...boo hoo." Dude, Vince has a lot of bigger things to worry about than calling you to chat and see how you're doing all the time. Sorry, but that just seems like an absurd reason to quit. If anything, Lashley should have started contacting as many WWE higher-ups/writers/etc and getting in their ear, telling them he's ready to come back. Show that he's passionate about it. Not sit home and complain about not getting called like he is some grade A superstar that the WWE needs. I never really saw Lashley as being that talented, so reading reports that he was peeved he wasn't called by Vince is absurd to me I guess. Hate him or not, but John Cena is a bonafied superstar. He appears on talk shows, been in movies, award shows, et cetera. Lashley, ok, he's been in the "big matchup" at Wrestlemania. Really, though, I don't see him as having done much else.

If there really isn't more to this, then I hate to say it, but good riddance to a primadonna. Have fun going over for like three months in TNA before Kurt Angle beats you, buddy, and then you vanish to mid-card status.

But if there is more to this, then ok, I will shuttup. I guess until I hear the full details, I probably should keep quiet. Meh...too late.

a7xoff

01-24-2008, 03:26 PM

The more I look at this, the more Lashley's moves and choices make no sense to me. I mean yes not much has been mentioned about him, but in the back of everyone's heads we, whenever he is mentioned felt that when he gets back he may be heel and go for the belt should Cena have it, or go after Orton, whichever. Lashley was a main eventer, him leaving makes no sense at all if it's because of Kristall. Like Jake said if he does leave, he's an idiot. He'll wind up in TNA and do a lot less there then he did with WWE. Hopefully he comes to his senses. However if he doesn't... No big loss.

Ha Ha

01-26-2008, 10:29 PM

we'll they pulled down his profile. But i hope this is a prank by the WWE this would be the greatest thing the WWE ever did. Of course he will end up as a heel. i can see it now bobby showing up backstage at TNA they report on it and so will wz then next thing you know he's back on WWE tv.

TimmyTallsoxx

01-26-2008, 11:32 PM

Hey i just thought i mention this but in the latest wwe magazine with jeff on the cover there is something in it where it gives odds out on chances of winning the rumble and lashley is listed with 15:1 odds dont know if this was printed before he quit or just a little thing they did for fun

o and i saw one of you mention the idea of wm 25 being ANOTHER cena vs orton no that lashley left. ya this is another year away but this feud will grow old if they have yet anoter one. I certainly hope not i hope to see kennedy,mvp,or one of the hardys main eventing wrestlemania 25 NOT cena or hhh well maybe hhh if he doesnt win

Sicko

01-26-2008, 11:35 PM

this sucks I been waiting for his return, I would like to find out what the hell happened

stop making up your own version of what you think happened

how can anyone say this is not a big loss? this is a huge loss

well I guess some fans do enjoy watching the same fued every 3 months, let me guess after Rumble we will have to watch HHH fued with Orton for about a year

I feel like I was robbed, fueds that I did not even get a chance to see, I wanted to see Batista vs Lashley at Wrestlemania or someting Lashley vs HHH and a lot of others

Rocky3:16

01-27-2008, 12:18 AM

IMO, in order to deal with the daily grind of the business you have to have a genuine passion for it. It's not like a job that you fill out an application for and you work to pay your bills. It's a job that you have to be made for and have the mental focus and the proper attitude. Not anybody can be a professional wrestler, your heart has to be in it, and I never saw that passion in Lashley when watching his matches.

Danmen001

01-27-2008, 12:51 AM

I dont think Lashley was made for the 'fake' stuff in wrestling.

Lashley is made for the stuff where he fights on spot, no some coriographed stuff. Even though I found Lashley an ok watch, he isn't made for remembering what he has to do next, or the full on power game that the wwe portrays him as, he is made for mat work, he is a great amateur wrestler because he works the mat, the wwe took that away from him, which is why he isn't at his full game most of the time, it is still unfortunate that he leaving the company......if these rumours are true.

Total Impact

01-27-2008, 01:09 AM

If the WWE is racist, they are equal discrimatory to every race, I mean rather you are white, black, latino, or asian, the WWE will make fun of or put you in story lines that are sterotype driven.

But the only reason lashley quit, is because of some fine ass little pussy. I mean he quit because of Krystal. It wasn't because the WWE didn't push him, I mean they push the hell out of his ass. They gave him ECW. Lashely will be nothing like Brock Leasnar fighting for one last chance in MMA.