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hbk&triple h
12-16-2007, 06:56 PM
Reported by Ryan Clark
WWE officials had talks this past week to shake up the roster in the near future. They plan on doing another draft after WrestleMania.
Perosnally, the rosters do need some shaking up. On Raw and Smackdown we have very little feuds left.
The only problem is they don't do anything big or drastic with the drafts. They draft a couple of upper mid carders but the rest of the trades are pointless. We should see Undertaker move over to Raw. And HBK move to Smackdown. Put somebody over to ECW who can help all the younger talent. We also need to see mid card shuffle a bit. Move Carlito, Matt Hardy, Kennedy, Jeff Hardy, Umaga, etc. move around a bit too.
The draft sounds like a good idea to me but hopefully they don't screw thingsup royally like they did with last years draft.
tap-out
12-16-2007, 08:46 PM
the problem with the draft is that with the brand split there is such limited talents on each roster....i think we all agree on this. With the small rosters, the feuds get old real fast because there is no one else to feud with...thus making this dumb brand extension very boring and stale. If Vince would ever end the brand splits....the possibilities are endless with storylines and surprises and feuds.
MR.SCOTT
12-16-2007, 08:50 PM
the problem with the draft is that with the brand split there is such limited talents on each roster....i think we all agree on this. With the small rosters, the feuds get old real fast because there is no one else to feud with...thus making this dumb brand extension very boring and stale. If Vince would ever end the brand splits....the possibilities are endless with storylines and surprises and feuds.
Ok for the millionth time, vince would never end the brand extension, you know it, i know it even the whole mcmahon family knows it, it makes too much money for the company
nack on topic i think im gonna love this draft in 2008, i want some main eventers in the ecw brand man give me val venis and give me the guys that raw and smackdown wont push and let them shine in ecw
Saiko
12-17-2007, 10:34 AM
Cruiserweight title should go to ECW
Wrestlers like funaki, jimmy wang yang,s. moore, j. noble, jessie should go to ECW. i think cody rhodes is also a cruiserweight so he would also do fine! Perhaps even supercruiserweights Mysterio and Chavo geurrero should go to ECW.
Carlito, mr kennedy and c. palumbo to ECW to heat up the competition for the ecw champ.
Big daddy V to raw or smackdown.
and perhaps a BIG trade between RAW and SMACKDOWN like:
Taker for HHH
Kane for HBK
Egde for HBK
Edge for Orton
...
CelticPride101
12-17-2007, 07:52 PM
yea if there gunna do a draft please help out ecw before you help out the "A" show raw cause look at what they left ecw with not a lot bring me kennedy or trevor murdoch or mvp hell i'll take santino this draft should be dedicated to help out ecw but u cant forget about the other shows
Billy mac
12-18-2007, 08:18 AM
i think most of u r right, money has 2 be spent most 4 ecw not big ppl like hbk or hhh mid carders, n it happened this yr wit chris benoit (rip) but we no wot happend there. but maybe a kennedy or a val venis, carlito, or a upper midcarder like jeff hardy.
U cant 4get raw or smackdown they need a shake up
Taker for HHH
Kane for HBK
Egde for HBK
Edge for Orton
that could be right maybe leave the champs but even a mysterio 4 a kennedy, a mvp 4 a hhh, a batista 4 a hbk, the rosters need 2 be shaken we hav seen repeated feuds, edge n batista, hbk n rko we need a shake up
billy
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darius_malcisky
12-18-2007, 09:06 AM
Undertaker,the main star,has to get back to the main show.Orton could go to Smack Down to feud with Edge.Batista sholud pe traded for Triple H or HBK .It will be nice to see another feud between Undertaker and Randy Orton,if undertaker stays in smack down,and some one like rey mysterio is traded for orton
tap-out
12-18-2007, 09:57 AM
Everyone wants to have all these main eventers traded, and you can't trade alomst all of them for each other because you will have them feuding with themselves once again. This should be really focused on shaking up the mid card level....like everyone else saud ECW could use some people. With Kofi going there and the Dudleys want out and to come back all you really need is about two-three more to have a respectible roster. The problem though is that ECW is sharing with Smackdown so i don't see them spending much time on ECW when they can just send them to Smackdown and still use them for Ecw. I would like to see Jeff Hardy go from Raw to ECW, i think he would be perferct and would love to see Morrison v. Hardy again for the title.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
12-18-2007, 11:39 PM
What they really need to focus on is not "give more to ECW" or something, but balancing out the trio. Because of the ECW/Smackdown exchange, they don't need to both have equal standing as Raw, but TOGETHER they should have a slight edge.
Since this will be a long chart, I'll post it in a second reply, not this post, but the following post from me is how I'd set up the rosters (and thusly, how things would look like after the draft that I'd do) since to me, it seems the most balanced and logical.....
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
12-18-2007, 11:42 PM
RAW Main Event:
1. John Cena / Edge
2. HBK / MVP
3. Jeff Hardy / John Morrison
4. Batista / Umaga
SMACKDOWN Main Event:
1. HHH / Mr. Kennedy
2. Undertaker / Randy Orton
3. Chris Jericho / Shelton Benjamin
4. Rey Mysterio / Big Daddy V
ECW Main Event:
Faces: Kane & CM Punk
Heels: Elijah Burke & Mark Henry
Structure: If you look at it, there’s an equal balance. The first faces are the “supermen” (Cena/HHH), then the second faces are veterans that want limited work time (HBK/Taker), and the third and fourth are popular swing votes. The heels start with the great talkers that are top heels and well rounded (Edge/Kennedy), then the second grouping (ie Orton/MVP) are more mat-based, followed by the third grouping which are more aerial (Morrison/Benjamin), and rounded out by a monster (Umaga/BDV). The wildcard in the situation is ECW, which gives spotlight to two faces that would be downplayed if they were in the other brands (Kane and CM Punk), has its own monster (Henry), and balances it out with a top heel (Burke), but since they can take people from Smackdown, you could also have Orton challenge CM Punk or Kane challenge Mr. Kennedy, etc, allowing for more options than it looks like for ECW.
RAW Midcard:
1. Lashley / Carlito
2. Cody Rhodes / Santino Marella
3. Jimmy Wang Yang / Kenny Dykstra
4. Chuck Palumbo / Lance Cade
SMACKDOWN/ECW Midcard:
1. Matt Hardy / Kevin Thorn
2. D.H. Smith / Jamie Noble
3. Shannon Moore / The Miz
4. Kofi Kingston / Chavo Guerrero
Structure: First faces are the well rounded guys that could carry the belts (Lashley/Hardy), followed by the rookies (Rhodes/Smith), high flyers (Yang/Moore), and then the random ones (Palumbo/Kingston). The faces go from well rounded guys that could carry the belts (Carlito/Thorn) to the gifted talkers (Satino/Noble), two young guys that are increasingly impressive despite how a lot of people don’t like them (Dykstra/Miz), and the random ones (Cade/Chavo).
TAG TEAM
Faces: Londrick & the Daltons
Heels: Major Bros & Deuce/Domino
Structure: Just pick one from each. You can fill out the rest of your tag team division by teaming up midcarders (example, Matt Hardy and Shannon Moore) or with filler people (ie Funaki & Super Crazy as a tag team)
FILLER
Well Rounded Veterans: Val Venis / Hardcore Holly
Comedy Figures: Hacksaw / Balls Mahoney
Squash Flyers: Funaki / Super Crazy
Tough Guys: Snitsky / Mike Knox
Other: Finlay, Tommy Dreamer, Trevor Murdoch, Charlie Haas, Taylor, McIntyre, Highlanders, Boogeyman, Nunzio, Steven Richards, Khali
tap-out
12-20-2007, 01:06 PM
FILLER
Well Rounded Veterans: Val Venis / Hardcore Holly
Comedy Figures: Hacksaw / Balls Mahoney
Squash Flyers: Funaki / Super Crazy
Tough Guys: Snitsky / Mike Knox
Other: Finlay, Tommy Dreamer, Trevor Murdoch, Charlie Haas, Taylor, McIntyre, Highlanders, Boogeyman, Nunzio, Steven Richards, Khali
How is Finlay a filler? He is arguably one of the best straight up wreslters on all of the rosters.
I just hope we get some refreshing new feuds and looks on the shows. They are in need of them. Lets also hope the WWE starts to develop these younger guys they keep signing and develop some nice additions.
RandyKO
12-20-2007, 01:15 PM
I hated the 2007 draft. It was pointless, seriously what was the point in it?
I just want ECW to dissapear and to never come back on the face of the Earth ever and for RAW and SmackDown just to have everyone on each show, it would be so much better!
The Undertaker, Edge, Rey Mysterio, Matt Hardy, Kane, Batista, MVP, Mark Henry, The Great Khali, Ric Flair to RAW.. A few of the Divas
get rid of everyone else.
Sorted!
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
12-20-2007, 01:22 PM
How is Finlay a filler? He is arguably one of the best straight up wreslters on all of the rosters.
I just hope we get some refreshing new feuds and looks on the shows. They are in need of them. Lets also hope the WWE starts to develop these younger guys they keep signing and develop some nice additions.
Oh I didn't type that the right way, lol. What I meant by filler wasn't "useless guys that I don't care about" (though Khali sure does fit that bill, lol), but I meant "guys I'm not sure where to place". Bad choice of words on my part. Finlay is definitely a top midcard guy, I just have no clue if they want him to be a solid face or a tweener or what.
Esteban Ochocinco
12-20-2007, 07:15 PM
The WWE Draft/Lottery, whatever the hell it is, has tried to be different ever year. Last year it was the winner of a match gets a draft pick, a few years ago was each GM got any five picks they wanted. The best one was the 2002/first version of the draft. Everyone goes on the board, and anyone can be chosen. That's a draft, period.
You'll never see HHH on Smackdown! Triple H, (at least in his own mind) thinks he is the franchise and should always be on the number one show. That being said, you'll never see the Undertaker on Raw. His entrances are too long, and Smackdown can edit those to make them look much shorter then what they actually are.
I'm not exactly for a draft this year. Sure the 2007 version was a fucking nightmare and none of the picks turned out, but you still want to keep them somewhat important. Having them every summer simply diminishes the imortance of the draft.
Y 2 Jake
12-21-2007, 01:50 AM
Wrestlers change show for no reason, so frequently, as and when they please, that the draft is pointless. If somebody needs to move brand then they can just have a talent exchange in an episode. Edge for about 10 other superstars or whatever. I don't think there has ever been a brand pick that has been really great. If they're intresting the wrestler either leaves the company, moves brand again, or murders a few people.
JGallops77
12-21-2007, 04:02 AM
Triple H will never be on Smackdown, because he's still a top draw. He wants to be on a show where fans HAVE to tune in to see what he'll do, not be able to read about it days in advance.
Shawn Michaels won't be on Smackdown either. Why? Because his best friend is Triple H. They won't be on separate shows, especially with the thought that Triple H may turn heel once again, and he'd want to fued with HBK one more time.
John Cena, obviously will stay on RAW. He's their big money guy, and he's got to be on the A show.
Taker won't be on RAW because his entrance is always too long, and because of all the special effects he uses.
Guys like Khali, Henry, and Big Daddy V won't be on RAW because they suck in the ring. On Smackdown/ECW they can edit the mistakes.
I could see Bobby Lashley going to Smackdown to fued with Edge for the WHC. Batista will come to RAW, but before the draft (if the reports are true).
As for the midcarders, they'll be shuffled around, but it won't do any good. Most of them just aren't over enough, and the ones that are will be main eventers soon.
LMaruko
12-22-2007, 07:04 PM
As I mentioned in a previous topic, the WWE needs this draft, and soon if Mr. McMahon wishes to keep Smackdown alive and pull ECW from it's grave. It seems to me that ECW is turning into what Velocity and Heat were/is, and if things keep going the way they are, SciFi will pull their contract.
Since JBL is running off to RAW, that takes away another key from Smackdown. I say that each GM gets to choose 10 superstars from a different brand like they did before, including champions.
Championship-wise, I think that the Women's champion should represent all three brands, making more diva action and give more opportunity than the small amount of divas that are around on RAW. The Hardcore championship should come back, also representing itself on all three brands. Give RAW the WWE Light Heavyweight belt while Smackdown keeps the cruiserweight and ECW gets the TV championship. Bring back the ECW Tag Team championships and give ECW European championship (or change it's name to something else)to coincide with the Intercontinental and US championships for mid-carders.
JGallops77
12-23-2007, 09:17 PM
As I mentioned in a previous topic, the WWE needs this draft, and soon if Mr. McMahon wishes to keep Smackdown alive and pull ECW from it's grave. It seems to me that ECW is turning into what Velocity and Heat were/is, and if things keep going the way they are, SciFi will pull their contract.
Since JBL is running off to RAW, that takes away another key from Smackdown. I say that each GM gets to choose 10 superstars from a different brand like they did before, including champions.
Championship-wise, I think that the Women's champion should represent all three brands, making more diva action and give more opportunity than the small amount of divas that are around on RAW. The Hardcore championship should come back, also representing itself on all three brands. Give RAW the WWE Light Heavyweight belt while Smackdown keeps the cruiserweight and ECW gets the TV championship. Bring back the ECW Tag Team championships and give ECW European championship (or change it's name to something else)to coincide with the Intercontinental and US championships for mid-carders.
The thing is, you can't have too many titles. What WWE needs to do is get rid of the Cruiserweight title all together, and give ECW the Television Title. This will give ECW that second tier title, and the big cruiserweights can go to ECW and that could be a title they go after.
ceeennnaaa
12-24-2007, 10:11 AM
okay in the first place they dont have as good of superstars any more....not talent wise but fun to watch feud like cryme tyme or kurt angle.also if they wanted ecw atleast givem some talent.big daddy v and cm punk is there best talent.dont we all rember a couple years back viscera.viscera is big daddy v.we he was on raw he sucked.get the hardys back in the same division.dont everyone want that.im tierd of main events on raw bein a non title match like snitsky and orton vs hhh and hardy.i think tat was it a couple weeks back.i want main events like the hardys vs dx for the tag team title.tag teams tese days suck.cryme tyme was cool but count wreslte.lance cade and treor mudoch can fight not entertain. get tags like mysterio and cena. so my opion is DO A FULL SUPERSTAR DRAFT WERE RAW PICKS ANY SUPERSTAR THEN SMACKDOWN THEN ECWAND COUNTINUE
Lyez. D
12-24-2007, 11:39 AM
Oh please do not sit there and say that Big Daddy V and C.M Punk are the best that ECW has to offer. Dude what ECW are you watching? John Morrison? The Miz (still getting there)? Elijah Burke? The pending arrival of Kofi Kingston? Those names ring a bell to you? Yeah ECW. Shelton Benjamin. An athlete. ECW. ECW has a shit load of talent.
The rumoured 2008 draft is probable gonna be in Smackdown's court this time around since they lost prospects this year. And with the ECW/Smackdown talent exchange this benefits them even more though I don't see ECW getting any actual names through this draft, but I do see them benefitting from Smackdown's choices unless the creative team decides to screw them over and send divas although Jillian was a nice acquisition for RAW.
Bagasuck1993
12-24-2007, 01:57 PM
Here's what they need to do. Instead of a planned draft, left the draft be completely random, without anybody knowing where anyones going. Make it like a raffle.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
12-24-2007, 08:15 PM
Here's what they need to do. Instead of a planned draft, left the draft be completely random, without anybody knowing where anyones going. Make it like a raffle.
If they did that, they'd end up with a horrible product. Would you watch say, ECW, if the main lineup was Mark Henry, Super Crazy, Hacksaw, Steven Richards, and Khali? Lol. For the sake of a better product, they need to fix the lottery or else that kind of stuff would happen. Now, there are other ways they could show us the choices but still have it rigged, aside from the thing they used last year - which I thought was hilarious because it showed about 12 wrestlers but random people not in that group of 12 would show up, lol. I expected them to have little tiny pictures of every superstar and have it cycle through highlighting them...at least for the simpler minded people in the crowd, it would look more randomized.
More than anything, I think they need to focus on providing the BEST product, as opposed to just providing a NEW product. They have a golden opportunity now with the ECW/Smackdown exchange to build up their lower ranks. Raw should have the slight edge over Smackdown in the # of well-established stars (ie, maybe one or two more main eventers and a strong midcard to go with it), while ECW should only have like 2 or 3 "main event superstars". Smackdown gets a few less main event stars than Raw, because they can switch between the few on ECW, so essentially they have it balanced. Since Raw would have a stronger and more solid midcard, that's balanced out by ECW/Smackdown sharing MORE midcarders. Instead of having Super Crazy on Raw where he gets no action and is taking up the space of someone who could help out their Intercontinental division, switch him over to Smackdown/ECW in exchange for someone who is big enough for the midcard titles...someone like Kenny Dykstra, who is overlooked by sheer #s on the other two brands.
MC Damn
12-26-2007, 01:55 PM
Every draft is the same(apart from the wreslters,duh)
You draft a(some) main-eventer(s)
Two/three Mid-carders
And 4 to 5 filler.
ECW should be given the cruiserweight title.Jamie Noble,Shannon Moore and Gregory Helms could be used good down there.And Chavo seems to be down there already.Hell Rey could be sent down there becasue of his orginal roots.
SD! were big losers last year and should be given a good year this year.Kennedy badly needs to go back.He looks so much better when his matches are edited.Eljiah Burke needs fresh feuds so he could be a good higher-mid-carder.Umaga also needs fresh feuds.Jeff could have a good feud with his bro or MVP.
RAW!Mark Henry should go just to let him see out his contract.He also needs Yes Fresh feuds.Kelly Kelly needs to get more spotlight(the girl tries and tries.Im a big fan) so let her come for the Womens divsion.I can,t think of any more possible raw draftees right now.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
12-26-2007, 04:09 PM
I think (and I'm hoping) that this year with the draft, they're going to try to solidify the purposes of the three brands:
Raw - The "A-Show" with the biggest names. This is the staple that holds it all together.
Smackdown - The "B-Show", just shy of matching the big names of Raw. Mysterio is 100% perfect for this show and would probably never be drafted out of it. He's one of their "popular draws" like the Undertaker, Batista, Cena, and DX. If he were on Raw, he'd start to get buried, but on Smackdown, he gets to be one of the top men. Smackdown will be the sort of step up the ladder. This is for the guys that they feel could be ready, but they don't want to risk it just yet.
ECW - The up and comers that need some more work before they get their push + the old guys that are past their prime for their push. This works out perfectly. A guy like Kane would get lost in the Raw and Smackdown shuffle, but he could be the top man and long running champ at ECW. Chavo is another example of the older guys. He would do nothing on Raw, and on Smackdown he was just the Cruiserweight champ, which was virtually nothing, but on ECW, he could have some great feuds putting over some younger talent.
Preliminary Predictions: (Note: These aren't necessarily how I'd do it, nor what I particularly would want to happen, just how I think they'll do it)
D.H. Smith [to Smackdown]
Kenny Dykstra [to ECW]
Kane [to ECW]
Chavo [to ECW]
Drew McIntyre [to ECW]
The Miz [to Smackdown]
John Morrison [to Smackdown]
CM Punk [to Smackdown]
Elijah Burke [to Raw, Intercontinental scene]
*Possible stars that will switch: Palumbo, Finlay, Charlie Haas, Highlanders, Trevor Murdoch, Super Crazy, Deuce & Domino, Shannon Moore, Jimmy Wang Yang.
Also, if they really want to move Batista to Raw, I think they'll move Jericho over to Smackdown to balance it out.
kennywry666
12-27-2007, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by:Nofate007
D.H. Smith [to Smackdown]
Kenny Dykstra [to ECW]
Kane [to ECW]
Chavo [to ECW]
Drew McIntyre [to ECW]
The Miz [to Smackdown]
John Morrison [to Smackdown]
CM Punk [to Smackdown]
Elijah Burke [to Raw, Intercontinental scene]
This would be Irrelevant considering the Smackdown/ECW roster barrier, where smackdown superstars can show up on ecw and vice versa... but, anythign can happen at a draft... either way, it'll be nice to see how they shake things up.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
12-28-2007, 12:27 AM
This would be Irrelevant considering the Smackdown/ECW roster barrier, where smackdown superstars can show up on ecw and vice versa... but, anythign can happen at a draft... either way, it'll be nice to see how they shake things up.
It is a little irrelevant, yeah, but the only reason I could see it happening is for them to get CM Punk into the WHC or United States title picture instead of the ECW championship. Situations like that I think would create those trades - or if they get rid of the exchange (which I really hope they don't). If they don't get rid of it, then it doesn't matter who is on what, as long as they're on Smackdown OR ECW.
bnn52
12-28-2007, 05:18 PM
I agree that the draft needs to focus on ECW. But we all know that ECW needs to focus more on the "E" Extreme part of the title. We need more extreme rules/hardcore/TLC matches on the broadcast. Also take the cruiserweight title and make it the ECW TV Title to give the wrestlers on the ECW roster a better chance at making a good show.
I would like to see a good amount of mid-carders go over to ECW.
For Example
-Hardcore Holly
-Cody Rodes
-Finlay
-Both of the Hardys
-Umaga
-Bobby Lashley
-Kane
Put the ECW title on someone else besides CM Punk, he is a great talent, but not fo ECW his technical style isnt too Extreme, but neither is the show.
Also if they arent going to give him a push send Elijah Burke to Smackdown again give him a run at the US Title or possibly the Heavyweight title. Also swap some main eventers from raw to smackdown. Batista and Mysterio to Raw for HBK and Cena or something along those lines.
Raw needs help on the Tag Team Division, either make some new teams or swap some with SD to get a fresh start for both brands. Hopefully Team 3D does come back and WWE can land a talent like Senshi to get a new spark to the company.
Lyez. D
12-29-2007, 12:55 AM
Raw needs help on the Tag Team Division, either make some new teams or swap some with SD to get a fresh start for both brands. Hopefully Team 3D does come back and WWE can land a talent like Senshi to get a new spark to the company.
London and Kenderick....Look where they are now. RAW doesn't benefit from a darft seeing as they have nothing to benefit from. They are already at the top of the hill. Chances are if Mr.Kennedy was still on Smackdown he would've been in th WHC scene right now. Although RAW does need help in the Tag Team divison I don't think it helps to take good Smackdown teams and throw them on RAW. Smackdown is known for it's Tag Teams and it's crusierweights. I'd like to keep them on that show unless you're gonna make a singles star out of one like John Morrison.
The draft should largely in part (like I said before) benefit Smackdown/ECW this time around. They both don't have that many big names so they'll most likely gain a few mid-carders with names and a couple (meaning 2) big names. While RAW will probably take MVP out of Smackdown. For some reason I feel MVP will be moving. IMO he's the most probable to move.
Saiko
01-02-2008, 11:17 AM
The draft should be for ECW!
Lashley to ECW/Smackdown! to feud with batista
J. Morrison stays on ECW or going to SD! to go for the US title
Kane to ECW, ECW title
Kennedy to ECW/SD for the WHC,ECW or US title
Cm punk to RAW, IC title to feud with Carlito and HBK(?)
On RAW i think there are to much superstars for the wwe title.
HHH,HBK,Orton,cena,Kennedy,JBL,Y2J,Lasley and Hard) so a few will have to go or getting in tag team or IC title scene.Cm punk is better on RAW i think.
SD! could use 1 or 2 superstars in the WHC scene like Lashley or Kennedy.
-Edge,Taker,Batista,kennedy and Lashley.
Same for the US title, or Morrison
-Morrison,MVP,(kennedy) and M. Hardy.
ECW
Needs 1 or 2 Major stars a think, this could go together with smackdown.
Kane is Perfect for ECW, he's extreme and has an evil mind.He should go for the ECW title to continue his feud with BDV.
Bring in a new title(tv title) where talents like C.Rhodes,Burke,Benjamin,Miz,Wang yang,moore noble,...could compete for.
liljosh785
01-02-2008, 05:09 PM
Send Umaga to smackdown, he has done wreslted with every face on Raw. For some reason im a mark for Kenny Dykstra and i would like to see him back on Raw possibly traded for Cody Rhodes. Also send Carlito back to smackdown along with Santino and bring Burke and Taker or Kane to Raw. Maybe even send lashley to smackdown. Really no point in anybody going to ECW because its pretty much the smackdown brand anyway. While there at it Unify the ECW and World title becasue that ECW belt really means nothing anymore like it used to,reminds me of the hardcore title or the TV title.
Teaml egend killer
01-04-2008, 06:38 PM
Yeah I honestly think that a roster "shakeup" is just what WWE needs to get some extra excitement. First of all I think that ecw desperatly needs another title, it would help build up more stars and give them more than just one match on a ppv. I think that some young heels need to be distributed due to the extreme lack on smackdown and raw, Carlito needs to move to smackdown and get in the world title picture. Also I think that Jeff Hardy should be moved to ecw, jeff is an established superstar, a fan favorite, and could carry ecw. Especially due to CM Punk being the only face ecw has.
Y 2 Jake
01-05-2008, 04:24 AM
The draft is pointless. It makes for an entertaining show. But that's pretty much it. Other than that. Half the people who move make no impact. A quarter move back to the show they were drafted from initially. 10 % get fired. 10% make an impact. And 5% kill a few people. It's pointless. The sole purpose is to make Raw ''appear'' better. When in fact all they do is put the dead weight on Raw along with the superstars. In reality Smackdown always comes off better.
jerichoholic1991
01-08-2008, 09:31 AM
throw cena over to ecw lmao
but after WM when they do the draft, since edge is gunna lose the title to taker probly, bring him to raw, send hbk over to smackdown n have taker vs hbk for the world heavyweight title
and have edge in a fued with like jericho or something
i dunno bout other ppl but id like to see those 2 fueds
joejoe
01-09-2008, 11:52 AM
throw cena over to ecw lmao
but after WM when they do the draft, since edge is gunna lose the title to taker probly, bring him to raw, send hbk over to smackdown n have taker vs hbk for the world heavyweight title
and have edge in a fued with like jericho or something
i dunno bout other ppl but id like to see those 2 fueds
I vote that any poster who doesn't at least attempt to use proper grammar on the forums get banned immediately who's with me?
Anyways,
I think they should throw Kennedy back on Smackdown. He's just not getting over on Raw. I think you could have him semi face turn to feud with Edge towards the WHC.
Other than that I don't see much that needs to be moved around as far as roster trading goes.
Possibly have MVP come to Raw and have him start a feud with a few of the mid carders and bring some credibility back to the IC title.
Markie C
01-09-2008, 12:00 PM
For me i'd like to see these go to Raw:
Dykstra- Good future star, can build up against raw stars
Kane- Has faced everyone on Smackdown/ECW, i'd like to see him return to his crazy character on Raw
Mysterio- Same as Kane, he's faced everyone, and Raw has plenty of fresh people for him to wrestle
Batista- He'll probs be over for the title match at wrestlemania, if not he should come over in the draft
Raw needs some decent heels though, yet im not really sure who could go there, who hasnt recently gone to smackdown, maybe Kane or Batista could turn heel
For me i'd like to see these go to Smackdown/ECW:
Super Crazy- Never appears on Raw, sometimes has Heat matches, would like to see him in the cruiserweight and/ or on ECW
Michaels- Has faced everyone on Raw, smackdown has lots of good heelsfor him to feud with, and even Undertaker, perhaps the wrestlemania 25 main event
Umaga- Same with Michaels, but he can face the faces
Haas- Not a big star yet is rarely used on Raw, would be a good U.S Title runner for Smackdown
Kennedy- He's kind of gone down hill a bit recently, and Smackdown will help him regain what he once had, plus he could face Undertaker, and others, or maybe turn face and face Edge, etc
pockets
01-09-2008, 01:49 PM
raw seriously needs to share the huge amount of midcard/main eventers they have:
have batista go to raw, orton come to smackdown, finley to raw, and jericho to smackdown, and jeff hardy and umaga to smackdown.
i think finleys done all he can on smackdown and jericho would bring some personality to the show.
Mike1517r
01-13-2008, 10:50 PM
In the past years it has not seemed like the draft would make as big of a difference as it could this year. In the draft i think you should send some of the Raw talent to other shows. This is what they should do:
Umaga to Smackdown-he has done everything he can do on Raw
Kennedy to Smackdown-he just has not been as good on Raw
John Morrison to Smackdown-eventually he needs to go back to another show.
Santino to ECW-he could be good there
Jaime Noble to ECW-he would also be good there
Super Crazy to ECW-add some excitement to the show
Kane to Raw-he seemed to be better on Raw, maybe he could go to ECW
Big Daddy V to Raw-he could fued with Kane and Big Show(will be on Raw)
I think that Batista will move over to Raw after the rumble so he is not mentioned here. Wouldn't be surprised to see Jeff Hardy go to Smackdown in this either, with HHH, Cena, ect. i dont think there is room for him to be champ on Raw, but he could have a great fued with Edge.
Whatever the draft produces i just hope they don't make it as dull as it was last year... span it over a few different weeks like wwe did the year before.... hearing the superstars music and them making an impact straight away was much more exciting then a picture on a lame screen..... Obvious moves will be, Big Daddy V to whatever show John Cena is on to be the next 'monster victim' and maybe sending taker to raw.. theres money just there in thinking of ppv's... taker v hhh, taker v hbk, taker v cena, taker v lashley even
Butterplease
01-15-2008, 08:14 PM
Carlito to Smackdown- good to go for that US title again
Kane to Raw- go and face Jeff Hardy/Randy Orton for WWE title seriously the guys going be around form maybe two more years give it to him
London & Kendrick to Smackdown- I enjoyed watching Smackdown them alot more with them on the show
Shelton Benjamin to Raw- honestly unless they are going to give him a title match instantly and win it on the spot put him back with The Worlds Greatest Tag Team
Matt Hardy to Raw- either let him win the United States Championship or go let him win the Intercontinental Championship, they really need to get him in more instead of someone kicking his ass each week
Every WWE Diva to Raw- yeah sure Smackdown is and entertaining but give the divas to Raw and have bigger battle royals for the Womens Championship
Every Cruiserweight to Smackdown-London & Kendrick and Super Crazy just go to Smackdown
edge=ratings
01-16-2008, 01:08 AM
I don't know about anyone else but i felt the best draft they did was the one that went on for a month. It made people watch in more to see who was gonna show up. Although almost every one that smackdown got left within a couple of months such as Christian, and Muhammad. But they did trade some pretty big names that year. I think if Big Show comes back just send him to SD, he would be best off there, and i like the idea of HBK to SD he has faced EVERYONE on the raw upper card. Kennedy needs to stay on raw though, i think they are finally starting to push him again, he had a really good promo on raw last night. I would like to see Morrison on Raw again, but he probably is better off in ecw. And one last thing, they need to have the hardy's on the same show, they can still do they're singles thing, but picture them the tag champs, and one is US champ while the other is WHC. I like that vision personally.
wweman1
01-16-2008, 01:37 AM
2008 possible draft trades
Umaga to Smackdown- versed everyone on raw and to create new fueds
Matt Hardy to Raw- loads of talent and could be I/c champ or team with his brother
All Cruiserweights to Ecw- Includes Super crazy london, kendrick noble etc and bring back the title and allow these people to use moves such as shooting star press and 450 splash
Rey mysterio to raw- to create new fueds with top stars and is a huge draw card
Jericho to smackdown- possible WHC and top main event face
Santino and carlito to Ecw- to stars bring talent to ecw
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
01-16-2008, 03:14 AM
Not my personal choices, but this is what I think the WWE will do:
1. Umaga over to Smackdown - He's feuded with everyone, plus, look below.
2. Big Show over to Raw - Without Umaga, they need a monster
3. Jericho over to Smackdown - Unless Triple H turns heel. Then he'll stay and be a step above Lashley, who will be on top of the Intercontinental scene.
4. Carlito over to ECW - He wants a push, an IC title won't do anything, but he could be the champ on ECW as we all know that's the brand of building people up. They use it to build up new guys to the midcard and midcarders to the next level, just below the main event.
5. Elijah Burke over to Raw - Losing Carlito means they'd lose their main IC heel. Burke is going nowhere on ECW, and he'd fit in well as the midcard talker.
6. Kenny Dykstra - Either he goes over to Raw's midcard, ECW, or he becomes part of a tag team on Raw or Smackdown.
7. Kane to ECW - He does nothing on Smackdown. This is more likely if Jericho moves over. He'd be the top dog on ECW and they could use him as a "big draw, main event superstar" without diminishing the guys they want to push more...ie, the guys on Raw and Smackdown's main event.
rKo0019
01-16-2008, 06:52 PM
The Raw roster is way overloaded. IMO, it needs the most work. But, since it is the "flagship" show, they may not shake up the rosters too much. Here's what I think could happen (or I'm completely wrong, I don't know):
1. Jericho to SmackDown-don't think he will remain on the Raw show. Don't see too many feuds popping up for him after 'Mania...and don't forget everyone's good friend HHH doesn't like him too much...
2. Batista to Raw-Face it, you can only see so many matches with Batista and Taker in them. Plus, he is probably seen as the top guy now that Cena's gone.
3. CM Punk leaves ECW-Don't know who they'll replace him with, but I believe they wanna push him on one of the "big two" shows, most likely Raw.
4. Kane to ECW-He's exhausted his run on SmackDown, which has been lackluster at best. Don't expect him to make waves in ECW. They'll just put him there to put the young guys over.
5. Everyone who's not doing anything-to ECW. Just kidding...or am I?????????
Mr. Showtime
01-20-2008, 01:54 PM
1. Umaga to SD! - nothing left for him on raw, needs fresh matches ...
2. Elijah Burke to RAW - going no where on ECW and he would fit in nicely in the I.C title scene ...
3. Finlay to ECW - been on SD! 2 years now, needs new opponents and could fill the posistion of chris benoit who was drafted to ECW just before the killings ...
4. John Morrison to SD! - he's clearly not getting back in to the ECW title picture, move im to SD! and make u.s champ ...
5. M.V.P to RAW - i would have said Batista but i think he'l win the rumble and move to RAW before the draft. M.V.P has faced just about everyone on SD! & he is is to established now for ECW ...
6. Carlito to ECW - give him the ECW title for a few months then move him to SD! i don't think RAW is the brand for Carlito at the moment ...
7. Jeff Hardy to SD! - fresh faces for him to have matches with, plus SD! offers a different style of match ...
8. Rey Mysterio to RAW - has been on SD! for 5 1/2 years, a move to RAW for him is long overdue, i really expected this sooner, along with HBK he's the only guy who hasn't switched brands since the brand extension he would also be swapping places with a RAW main-eventer who has had his tenure there ...
9. Gregory Helms to ECW - should go there upon his return to the wwe he's still young and could be ECW champ ...
10. HBK to SD! - same reason as Rey Mysterio ...
11. CM Punk to RAW - hes way over with the crowd, has had a nice run with the title and now its time to move him up to the big leagues - Monday Night RAW ...
12. Super Crazy to ECW - going nowhere on RAW, can't remember the last time i seen him in a match, he could put on amazing matches in ECW ...
Then of course you have the supplimental draft, which is a mixed bag of lower-mid card talent .
Will be intresting to see how it turns out .
;)
blake20696
01-20-2008, 05:48 PM
hopefully khali goes ro smackdown so he can fued with the undertaker again because i liked that fued and rey to raw so he will be fueding with hardy for the ic
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
01-20-2008, 07:04 PM
hopefully khali goes ro smackdown so he can fued with the undertaker again because i liked that fued and rey to raw so he will be fueding with hardy for the ic
Khali is already on Smackdown.
Plus, Rey vs Hardy would be face/face, and they virtually never have those feuds. On top of that, Hardy's moving onto the main event, so he won't be gunning for the IC title anymore once he loses it most likely.
thecruiser
01-20-2008, 07:09 PM
RAW to SD!:
Shawn Michaels - Fans have been waiting for this move for years. Shawn Michaels would look very good holding that World Heavyweight Championship and could have some pretty good feuds with the current roster.
DH Smith - This move would give Smith way more exposure and solidify him as a contender for the United States Championship.
Umaga - He would really shine on SmackDown!, due to lack of big names. Could maybe feud with the Undertaker for the WHC after 'Mania, or in a triple threat with Taker, Edge, and him as a tweener. To get over, he could dominate the lower card in sadistic ways, not unlike Big Show and Brock Lesnar when Paul Heyman was their manager, (stretcher attacks would be a nice touch also). He would also fill-out the thin roster SmackDown! currently has.
RAW to ECW:
Chris Jericho - This would REALLY bring ECW up to the level of SmackDown and RAW. Jericho could have AMAZING feuds with CM Punk, John Morrison, and Shelton Benjamin. Him moving to ECW would make the ratings sky-rocket and maybe move ahead of TNA iMPACT!.
Brian Kendrick & Paul London - These two are a great team, and they had a good push going for them at the beginning of 2007 on SmackDown!. Now on RAW, they aren't even used, let alone used properly. On ECW, they could really be utilized for their quick style against John Morrison and The Miz and bring meaning to the WWE Tag Team Championships again (maybe enough to debut new ECW Tag Team Championships.)
SD! to RAW:
MVP - Finally, MVP may be able to jump to the main event picture with this move. He could really build on his character and have some good feuds with Jeff Hardy, John Cena, and Mr. Kennedy.
Batista - While they already seem to be moving in this direction, Batista is home on RAW. He doesn't have enough competition on SD!. His only feud in the past year was with Edge/Undertaker, and he didn't seem to belong with those guys. On RAW, he can have good feuds with Triple H, Bobby Lashley, Umaga and Randy Orton.
SD! to ECW:
Matt Hardy - After he recovers from his injury, Matt won't have many feuds available to him on SmackDown. On ECW, he can go with CM Punk, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke, and John Morrison.
ECW to RAW:
Elijah Burke - On RAW, Burke, like MVP, can move into upper mid-card to main event spot. While he has one or two feuds left on ECW, none of them can move him forward in his career.
ECW to SD!:
Big Daddy V - Although it doesn't matter if BDV is on SD! or ECW, (he is already on both shows every week), he can go into a main event feud after WrestleMania with Undertaker for the World Heavyweight Championship if he officially on the SmackDown! roster.
Released within the next two years: The Miz, Balls Mahoney, The Boogeyman, Shannon Moore, Charlie Haas, Robbie & Rory McAllister, Super Crazy, Val Venis
I would send Jericho, HBK, Umaga, Harry Smith, Carlito and L&K to Smackdown because I think there would be way better fueds for them. Jericho vs Edge we already know that these 2 blonde canadians would make an awesome fued, Harry Smith could be a solid mid carder and he wouldnt be stuck on heat, Carlito was way better when he was on smackdown and they could start carlitos cobanna again, HBK vs MVP would be a good fued just like HBK and Kennedy, Umaga VS Undertaker, plus Umaga could join Henry and Big Daddy V and form a monster stable with khali as well. L & K really shined when they were on smackdown .. now they are just on heat running around jobbing.
I would send Super Crazy and Holly to ECW because we all know crazy deserves more then tagging around with Duggan on heat and I actually enjoyed watching holly when he was in ecw because he got a pretty good push.
I would send Burke, Mysterio, Finlay and the boogeyman to RAW. Mystertio has nothing left to do on smackdown unless they want Rey vs ChavoX1000 and he could continue his fued with JBL or Kennedy. Burke needs a better push and i think him being in the IC division would be a good fit for him. Finlay as a heel would be very good for raw to setup the future stars, Boogeyman has nothing left to do on smackdown and ecw so why not just give him one run on raw before releasing him.
wwe93
01-24-2008, 07:56 PM
i'd like 2 really see some pple who arent being used at all go 2 ECW like super crazy and all the other mid/lowcarders.......also jericho 2 smackdown.....umaga to ecw.....trade punk for jeff hardy.....kane to ecw.....batista to raw......maybe if hes still w/ wwe, lashley to ecw/SD.....
o ya and move sum big man 2 raw cuz if they dont then SD-ECW alliance will be super fat or big......like Mark Henry, BDV, The Big Show, Umaga, Kane, The Great Khali, Undertaker....all at the same taping = changing the title to Super Heavyweights
WWE_is_Jericho
01-29-2008, 05:01 AM
I think they should have one big draft like 2002 brand extension i mean, its old watching the same people i think that mainly they should shake up rostes for smackdown and raw then put people like carlito and finlay on ecw put cm punk on smackdown.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
03-24-2008, 03:57 PM
What makes the most sense to me:
PEOPLE OVER TO RAW:
Big Show - Raw needs a monster when Umaga moves on. Big Show is fresh and could have some good feuds.
Elijah Burke - Put him in contention for the Intercontinental title. Replace Carlito with him.
Edge - Top heel. He's feuded with everyone on Smackdown. He's had his feuds with Undertaker, Batista, Kane, Mysterio, and a short one with CM Punk, so move him here in place of Orton.
John Morrison - Use him as a main event talent, but don't give him the WWE title yet. I'm a big fan of this guy, but I say not to rush it. Push Kennedy forward so your main heels on Raw are Edge, Kennedy, and Big Show, and then you have Morrison and JBL for side-feuds (like how HBK doesn't want to win the title, but has main event style matches). In due time, give Morrison the belt when he has his share of feuds with people like Jericho and Hardy.
Shannon Moore & Jimmy Wang Yang - Intercontinental division as well as to boost up the tag team division.
Edgeheads - Obviously, to follow Edge, and help out the IC and tag team divisions.
PEOPLE OVER TO SMACKDOWN:
Randy Orton - Who else is he going to feud with on Raw? He's had feuds with Jericho, HHH, HBK, Cena, and Hardy. There's nobody left. He needs to go to Smackdown/ECW to feud with Batista, Undertaker, Kane, and CM Punk.
Umaga - He's feuded with everyone on Raw. Same reasons for Orton going over.
CM Punk - In contention for the WHC. Same level as MVP is right now, where he's the bottom of the main event, but main event nonetheless. I guess in the same light as Mysterio, as well.
The Miz - It sounds weird to say...really...really weird to say it....but he's gotten too good for ECW haha. Tag team him up with Kenny Dykstra and use both as US title contenders and tag team championship contenders.
London and Kendrick - With Jimmy Wang Yang and Shannon Moore, Londrick will get buried on Raw even more so than normal. Bring them over to Smackdown and repackage them as some fun gimmick that people can get behind...maybe like, high-flyers but also pranksters backstage? Idk.
Shelton Benjamin - US title contention. Give him a run with the ECW title as well, since I'd keep the talent exchange. That way you can have people go from the US title to the ECW title, or vice versa.
PEOPLE OVER TO ECW:
Carlito - Good enough for the top of ECW, not good enough for anything higher than that, and he won't go to the top of Smackdown or Raw on his own momentum.
Kane - Make it official. Top of ECW.
Chavo - Make it official. Top of ECW.
Luten
03-25-2008, 12:10 PM
Not only do the rosters need shaking up, they need to be reset. It baffles me why a company would purposly book one show better that the other-in WWE's case Raw being superior to Smackdown and ECW...doens't it just make good COMMON sence to get some sence of equality to all 3 brands..that way ratings for each show would be higher. Therefore, if WWE insist on this backwards way of booking then thet might aswell abolish the draft split anyway. It got stale about 2 years ago and in my opinion adding ECW to the mix was one of the most stupid ideas McMahon has had, even during all the hype of "Oh ECW is coming back" I knew it was a bad idea and that WWE would forever tarnish the name of ECW. Raw superstars appear on SD and ECW, SD superstars appear on Raw and ECW and ECW superstars appear on Raw and SD...What is the point then?
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
03-25-2008, 01:33 PM
Not only do the rosters need shaking up, they need to be reset. It baffles me why a company would purposly book one show better that the other-in WWE's case Raw being superior to Smackdown and ECW...doens't it just make good COMMON sence to get some sence of equality to all 3 brands..that way ratings for each show would be higher. Therefore, if WWE insist on this backwards way of booking then thet might aswell abolish the draft split anyway. It got stale about 2 years ago and in my opinion adding ECW to the mix was one of the most stupid ideas McMahon has had, even during all the hype of "Oh ECW is coming back" I knew it was a bad idea and that WWE would forever tarnish the name of ECW. Raw superstars appear on SD and ECW, SD superstars appear on Raw and ECW and ECW superstars appear on Raw and SD...What is the point then?
Well ECW has an hour less, so you can't have an equalized playing field on all 3 or else you're leaving a lot of guys out in the dark. If you don't have enough time to use guys on ECW every week, then Raw and Smackdown have to use more Snitsky matches since they don't have those stars themselves. So it only makes sense to give Raw and Smackdown more to work with - especially with the talent exchange. The way to balance it out, thusly, is to give Raw an incredibly sound program with a slight edge in the # of main event wrestlers, along with a solid midcard, and then to give Smackdown two less main event stars, but a solid everything else, so that you can build up the midcard wrestlers on ECW and switch them over from now and again. Raw is sort of the cream of the crop in terms of a push, Smackdown is a comfortable niche, and ECW is a stepping stone.
Mr. Showtime
03-25-2008, 08:17 PM
Raw superstars appear on SD and ECW, SD superstars appear on Raw and ECW and ECW superstars appear on Raw and SD...What is the point then?
Good point. It seems that each brand has been appearing on the other shows as of late, it's almost turned back into one whole brand again.
I understand because WrestleMania is almost upon us that the WWE want to give the superstars more exposure at this time of year by having them appear on all three brands, but i'd rather have them stay on their respective brands.
I've already posted my draft picks but that was a while back, I supose i've changed my mind a little, so here are my choices.
To RAW: Edge. He's not been on SD! for that long but he's feuded with just about everyone their already. Move him back to RAW.
To ECW: Carlito. Been on RAW for over 2 1/2 years now, he's getting a little stale. He'd benefit him self alot better on ECW, where he would definetly be a main eventer.
To SD!: Umaga. This pick is pretty much a safe bet. He's demolished everyone in his path for 2 years on RAW and has proved he can be a permenant main eventer. This guy is phenomenal, he's got so much potential. On SD! their will be fresh faces to feud with, Undertaker, Batista, Rey Mysterio etc.
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To RAW: Elijah Burke. You would think a guy would get over better on the smaller show, but this is NOT the case with Burke. A year ago he was at the top of ECW and he wasn't even champion. On RAW he would make an excellent IC Champion and i hope WWE realises this.
To ECW: Kane. I'm predicting he'l win the ECW title at WrestleMania and even if he doesn't just make the move permenant. Give him one last run on top which he truely deserves.
To SD!: CM Punk. He's obviously surpassed the ECW title so move him over to SD! where i'm sure there will be some pretty good feuds ahead for him.
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To RAW: John Morrison. Remind's me of a young HBK, I can tell Morrison is getting close to Main Event matches real soon. RAW would be the perfect fit for him. Could feud with HBK, HHH, Jericho (what a match that would be).
To ECW: Santino Marella. He's got all the charismatic tools but move him to ECW to showcase is wrestling skills.
To SD!: Jeff Hardy: I don't see jeff winning the wwe title there's just too many top guys in the way of him. On SD! he could be world champion and he could team with his brother matt on occasion.
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To RAW: Big Show: With Umaga gone RAW needs a dominant monster, Big Show is the perfect fit.
To ECW: Jimmy Wang Yang. Wang Yang is great wrestler and at such a young age, he as many years in front of him. Him & Shannon need to go their seperate ways.
To SD!: Shelton Benjamin. Best athlete in the WWE period. Even though i predict Kennedy will win MITB at Mania, Shelton is an odd's on favourite imo. What better way to get shelton over again than have him face the master of putting people over himself .... The Undertaker!. When S?helton beat HHH multiple times 4 years ago he was way over with the fans. Taker is at the same level as The Game so a win over Taker would do Benjamin the world of good, Taker wouldn't even lose any credibility in losing to Benjamin.
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To RAW: M.V.P. He's done enough on SD! and he really looked good last night on RAW. I can see this move happening. Lots of new faces on RAW for him. A feud with Y2J would be awesome.
To ECW: London & Kendrick. Create ECW Tag Titles and give them a run. I know it's long shot but it's a decent idea.
To SD!: John Cena. I know this probably will never happen, but alot of enjoyment has been taken out of my monday nights with Cena running the show. I like him on SD! everyone did ! But he's just made out to look like superman on RAW.
Also shake up the refferees, ring announcer's, interviewers and diva's in a supplemental draft.
;)
D-Squared
03-26-2008, 06:38 PM
All i want to see from this draft is...
1) Elijah Burke's potential being used! This guy is seriously under-rated and has been doing jobbing duties recently! This is beyond a joke! He should be ECW Champ NOT Chavo!
2) Mark Henry living up to his World's Strongest Man moniker! In every match recently the announce teams have mentioned it so much yet he has been getting squashed by Taker, Kane and Khali.
3) The Highlanders finally being given a chance at Tag Gold! What was the point of the hell turn if they werent going to use it on television.
and finally
4) Kane becoming ECW Champion! (and holding it for a very long time - like Big Shows run back in 06/07) The guy deserves it!
NYSandman
03-27-2008, 11:46 AM
Last draft was the shits, IMHO. I cannot even remember who went where.
We are faced with the same dillema. Not enough big names on SD/ECW, and too much, it seems, on RAW. Unless Vince is willing to trim Raw a bit and move some guys, SD/ECW will end up getting the shitty end of the stick, as usual.
SD already seems to have more telented, athletic wrestlers. I frequently notice that the matches on SD are better and often last longer. RAW is becomming more talk than wrestling.
They need more talkers on SD and more pure, athletic wrestlers on RAW. I hope that this draft will be a bit more productive than the last, but we'll have to wait and see.
I know this has been discussed a million times, and I KNOW Vince will never kill the brand extensions, but it is nice to see SD/RAW/ECW mixed around Wrestlemania time, with guys wrestling on all shows. It seems WWE gets really good right before WM, and then turns back to the boring old shit/gimmicks/storylines, etc. They should take a cue, and do more brand mixing all year 'round. :)
tomstevo89
03-28-2008, 11:23 AM
Although having a raw, smackdown and ECW brand helps make a lot of money, i don't see why the brands cant be merged. Then, in order to rake in the cash, unofficially seperate the roster for the house shows. Just because triple H and Shawn Michales are on the same roster, doesnt mean they have to appear at the same (untelevised) house shows.
If they do keep the brands, which im sure they will, i see no reason why superstars cannot compete on other brands in order to support the depth of the rivalries, if only for a few months. one thing is for sure, the rivalries that we've been exposed to over the years have been lifeless, inconsistant and rushed. for example, on Sunday the Undertaker is facing Edge, now i just feel that the WWE has'nt spent enough time promoting this. it's as if there's no purpose to the rivalry other than the championship. it's like the rivalries that used to occur at the very early wrestlemania's , at a time when the company had little exposure in comparision to today!
John87
04-02-2008, 02:27 PM
Ok for the millionth time, vince would never end the brand extension, you know it, i know it even the whole mcmahon family knows it, it makes too much money for the company
nack on topic i think im gonna love this draft in 2008, i want some main eventers in the ecw brand man give me val venis and give me the guys that raw and smackdown wont push and let them shine in ecw
the brand extension happened because when vinces dumb ass acquired WCW and ECW (mainly WCW) he had all this talent that came with the libraries and all that non sense. money had nothing to do with creating a brand extension. it makes money but thats not why he did it.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-03-2008, 11:14 PM
K, it took me a while, but I went through the entire roster and made up what I think is an extremely balanced roster for all 3 brands. This takes into account things that will never change (ie HHH and HBK being on Raw), popularity of stars that might not be a favorite of mine - since its not about who is Tony's favorite, its about a better product, etc etc etc.
Little note: You may notice that some people have done some face/heel turns. Some, we've had confirmation that they want to do it, others, I just feel need a change. The numbers are meant to match up with each other in comparison. You'll see.
RAW
WWE CHAMPIONSHIP
FACES: 1) Mr. Kennedy, 2) Chris Jericho, 3) CM Punk, 4) Big Show, and 5) HBK
HEELS: 1) HHH, 2) Edge, 3) John Morrison, 4) Kane, 5) JBL
[X: With Big Show as a face monster, Kane as a heel monster, you've balanced that out. CM Punk and John Morrison are both lower main event guys right now that aren't in the right position to carry a top title, but are far above the midcard title. HHH is more of a grounded wrestler, Morrison is more of a high-flier, and Edge is in the middle, whereas Kane is the big monster and JBL is there for feuds, just as on the face side, you've got Kennedy as a grounded wrestler, Punk and Jericho as a sort of Edge/Morrison mix, Big Show for the monster, and HBK for feuds. This also balances out people that are great on the mic and people that aren't.X]
INTERCONTINENTAL CHAMPIONSHIP
FACES: 1) Cody Rhodes, 2) Kofi Kingston, 3) D.H. Smith, 4) Colin Delaney
HEELS: 1) Elijah Burke, 2) Kenny Dykstra, 3) Snitsky, 4) Charlie Haas
[X. Cody and Kofi are the two primary faces, Elijah and Dykstra are the two primary heels, balances out the demographic as well as the styles. Smith and Snitsky are, in a sense, the monsters, as I'm hoping Smith is as strong as Davey Boy was. Delaney and Haas are the jobbers of the division. Raw's midcard takes a step backwards to its main event, as always.X]
RAW TAG TEAM
FACES: 1) London & Kendrick, 2) Cryme Tyme, 3) Funaki & Super Crazy
HEELS: 1) Edgeheads, 2) Chuck Palumbo & Chris Harris, 3) The Highlanders
[X. Londrick and the Edgeheads are faster than Cryme Tyme and Palumbo/Harris, who are more the strong type. Highlanders and Funaki & Super Crazy are the jobbers. A plus is that you can mix this tag team division with the midcard if you have to, so you could have Burke squash Super Crazy or Rhodes squash a McAllister or something.X]
SMACKDOWN / ECW TALENT EXCHANGE
WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT / ECW CHAMPIONSHIP
FACES: 1) Undertaker, 2) John Cena, 3) Rey Mysterio, 4) Jeff Hardy, 5) Finlay
HEELS: 1) Umaga, 2) MVP, 3) Randy Orton, 4) Batista, 5) Khali/Henry/BDV
FACES: 1) Shelton Benjamin, 2) Matt Hardy
HEELS: 1) Carlito, 2) Chavo Guerrero
[X. This is a little tricky to explain, lol. The top row of faces and heels are primarily for the WHC, bottom 2 rows for the ECW title. However, since there's a talent exchange, you can manipulate things as you wish. Undertaker and Cena are both big draws without necessarily needing the title, so that leaves the option for the lower main event guys like Mysterio and Hardy to get legitimate shots but not have to carry all the weight as Cena or Undertaker could easily just dominate. Getting Cena off Raw pleases a lot of fans but keeps him at the top of the WWE for those that like him. Hardy on Smackdown gives him a little room to breathe as well. Finlay is on par with Raw's HBK standing, as he's there for feuds more than title reigns. Umaga is the dominant monster, and although I list him as #1, that's just to match him up with the Undertaker, as the true #1 heel would be MVP, Orton, or Batista. The last spot is open for anybody and I just put the three monsters there because I had nowhere to put them, as I think at least 2 of them should be fired just to maintain a balance. ECW title, you've got 4 midcarders, essentially, but they could hold that title with ease. If Finlay has no feuds coming up, and you've exhausted the 4 of those, give him the ECW title and switch them out. So on and so forth.X]
UNITED STATES CHAMPIONSHIP
FACES: 1) Jimmy Wang Yang, 2) Shannon Moore, 3) Jamie Noble, 4) Tommy Dreamer, 5) Kevin Thorn
HEELS: 1) The Miz, 2) Paul Burchill, 3) Santino Marella, 4) Ron Killings, 5) Mike Knox
[X. This is tricky as well. This is basically the midcard on both shows outside of including the tag teams and the "main event ECW" guys above.X]
SMACKDOWN TAG TEAM
FACES: 1) Jesse & Festus, 2) Hardcore Holly & Val Venis, 3) Stevie Richards & Drew McIntyre
HEELS: 1) Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch, 2) Henry/Khali/BDV, 3) Deuce & Domino
[X. Richards and McIntyre I just don't know what to do with, so rather than job them out, why not make them a tag team to help out that division? Holly and Venis could be a decent tag team of veterans that have no huge career goals lol. The good thing, though, is that you've got more guys in this SD/ECW lineup that you could have a team like Yang/Moore as well as have them run for the US title. This SD/ECW exchange makes both rosters and all 4 categories extremely flexible outside of "Richards for WHC" and stuff lol.
RANDOM FILLER: Hacksaw Jim Duggan, James Curtis, Boogeyman, Nunzio, Balls Mahoney, anyone else I didn't mention, just throw them into the shows however you want.
Do I think this will happen? Not in a million years, especially all at once with a draft. However, I think it should be structured this way or at least very similar, so I'm hoping for some draft choices to reflect it.
incrediblesim
04-04-2008, 10:25 AM
Great thread!
First off to strengthen the upper mid-cards of both shows I would discontinue ECW. Storylinewise ECW would invade Smackdown leading to a 5 vs. 5 Elimination Tag Match at Backlash- Smackdown would win therefore ending ECW. Maybe have Dreamer be the last ECW Champ. Then we would draft after Backlash. The Draft would exclude Brand Champions (IMO Undertaker & Orton). It would also be a full one similar to the Brand Extension in 2002.
First I would arrange all championships like this-
RAW-
WWE Title (Bringing back the old belt)
Intercontinental Championship
WWE Womens Champinship
WWE Tag Team Championship
Smackdown-
World Heavyweight Championship
US Title
WWE Cruiserweight Championship
World Tag Team Championship
The Rosters
1. Randy Orton (Champion)
2. John Cena
3. Triple H
4. CM Punk
5. MVP
6. Batista
7. Chris Jericho
First 7 guys are guys who can all be in any respectable Main-Event.
8. Matt Hardy
9. Big Show
2 guys who can do the Main-Event.
10. Tommy Dreamer
11. Colin Delaney
12. Brian Kendrick
13. Paul London
14. Shelton Benjamin
15. Charlie Haas
16. Mark Henry
17. Big Daddy V
18. JTG
19. Shad
20. Snitsky
21. Lance Cade
22. Trevor Murdoch
23. Deuce
24. Domino W/ Cherry
25. Paul Burchill
26. DH Smith
Female Wrestlers (After Draft)
1. Beth Phoenix (Champion)
2. Mickie James
3. Victoria
4. Candice Michelle
5. Melina
6. Michelle McCool
7. Kelly
8. Torie Wilson
9. Katie- Lea Burchill
10. Maria
Tag Teams
1. Brian Kendrick & Paul London
2. “The Worlds Greatest Tag Team” Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas
3. “The New Nation” Mark Henry & Big Daddy V
4. “Cryme Tyme” JTG & Shad
5. “The Rednecks” Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch
6. Deuce & Domino
Smackdown
1. Undertaker (Champion)
2. Edge
3. Shawn Michaels
4. Mr. Kennedy
5. Jeff Hardy
6. Umaga
7. Rey Mysterio
First 7 guys are guys who can all be in any respectable Main-Event.
8. Finlay w/ Hornswoggle
9. JBL
2 guys who could do the Main-Event.
10. Carlito
11. Kane
12. Elijah Burke
13. Ron Killings
14. Santino Marella
15. Chavo Guerrero
16. Curt Hawkins
17. Zack Ryder
18. Jesse
19. Festus
20. The Miz
21. John Morrison
22. Jimmy Wang Yang
23. Chris Harris
24. Kofi Kingston
25. The Boogeyman
26. The Great Khali
27. Rory McAllister
28. Robbie McAllister
29. Hardcore Holly
30. Cody Rhodes
31. Jamie Noble
32. Chuck Palumbo
33. Kenny Dykstra
34. Stevie Richards
1. Elijah Burke & Ron Killings
2. “The Edgeheads” Curt Hawkins & Zack Ryder
3. Jesse & Festus
4. “MnM” Miz & Morrison
5. “Cowboys” Jimmy Wang Yang & Chris Harris
6. “The Highlanders” Rory & Robbie McAllister
Right, lets hope WWE gets some good names going good places.
Firstly..
RAW should get..
Burke
MVP
Big Show
Kelly Kelly (Add in there, all the Divas)
Morrison
CM Punk
Batista
SmackDown! should get..
Carlito (His younger brother too)
Umaga
Hardcore Holly
Cody Rhodes
Chris Harris
.. Every Single ECW Wrestler
ECW should be gone by now, not worth having it around.
With the Divas, they should go on both SmackDown! and RAW, but keep the main fueds to RAW, and keep the small fueds and building up new Divas to SmackDown!
The Tag Teams should stay where they are, I think the WWE are just in need of better storylines for the WWE Tag Teams. Prehaps Team 3D can come back to help with that lol.
Either way, RAW just needs some fresh faces for the WWE Title. Orton works on RAW, amazing champion. HHH and HBK work on RAW too. More emphasis on the Intercontinental title would be nice, hopefully with the draft, more wrestlers will focus on that title.
With SmackDown!, just need fresh faces. The addition of all ECW wrestlers will greatly help this, so they only need a few wrestlers from RAW really. Nothing too major with SmackDown!
If the WWE does something like this, the WWE would be MUCH better off.
ECW is pointless at the moment, no great fueds, stupid wrestlers coming in. (Colin Delany). Get rid of it, eventually give Kane the World Title at some point. Nuff said.
psykohurricane
04-04-2008, 02:06 PM
What Would be the point of another draft anyway since all the wrestler from all 3 brand can show up on any show at anytime. Just in the last couple of week, how many Raw guys show up on smackdown and just last monday, C.M Punk and matt hardy both wrestle on RAw and we actually got a Smackdown wrestler in Kane as ECW champion. So a Draft is prety much pointless right now since the line between the brand as been blurred to much already
incrediblesim
04-04-2008, 02:12 PM
What Would be the point of another draft anyway since all the wrestler from all 3 brand can show up on any show at anytime. Just in the last couple of week, how many Raw guys show up on smackdown and just last monday, C.M Punk and matt hardy both wrestle on RAw and we actually got a Smackdown wrestler in Kane as ECW champion. So a Draft is prety much pointless right now since the line between the brand as been blurred to much already
Yeah you're right but I think at the moment it has just been to give guys as much exposure before/after W/M 24. But point taken either end the brand split or draw the lines between the brands.
Cutekilla
04-04-2008, 02:18 PM
Yea...i definitely agree with you guys on this....nothing big and drastic happens....u got a couple of good guys getting traded and then you have younger talent getting traded that have no experience in the ring.
If there was a draft this year....then i agree with the idea of sending Undertaker to Raw, Taker has been on Smackdown for like ages, its time for him to go to a new brand. Also, bringing Triple H and HBK to Smackdown would definitely help the ratings for that show. Also....they should bring back the Cruiserweight Championship...mainly for the fact that the Cruiserweights havent seen any action. This would be cool to see that come back.
incrediblesim
04-04-2008, 02:23 PM
Yea...i definitely agree with you guys on this....nothing big and drastic happens....u got a couple of good guys getting traded and then you have younger talent getting traded that have no experience in the ring.
If there was a draft this year....then i agree with the idea of sending Undertaker to Raw, Taker has been on Smackdown for like ages, its time for him to go to a new brand. Also, bringing Triple H and HBK to Smackdown would definitely help the ratings for that show. Also....they should bring back the Cruiserweight Championship...mainly for the fact that the Cruiserweights havent seen any action. This would be cool to see that come back.
I think if you draft Taker to RAW you lose some peoples reason for watching S/D. Obviously he isn't the only reason they watch S/D but he can be a big part of why. If you were to draft DX over yes ratings would go higher. How about this..... RAW get Taker & MVP for DX & Y2J?
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-04-2008, 02:35 PM
Well the brand structure is for organization, primarily. If it was just a randomized set as opposed to a few people shifting here and there, then the WWE would have a tendency to only use their main event talent so as to get more people to watch. Every show would only be HHH, HBK, Cena, Undertaker, Batista, and then the women, as they're the so called biggest draws. Having the split with brands allows them to showcase their other wrestlers and build them up, much like how ECW is being used now as a ladder territory for newbies to get to a standard level, midcarders to move up to the main event, and older guys to put over new talent. Occasionally having them jump ship, though, allows them some flexibility, because as we've seen for a while now, if you limit yourself to say, 3 faces, 4 heels in the main event...you only have so many programs you can do in a year's span. Then you need the draft to switch things up a little.
incrediblesim
04-04-2008, 02:40 PM
For me the idea of using a "3-step level" does make sense- a guy starts on ECW makes himself a name there and then moves on to the 2 big guns. Unless you want to make ECW part of the "Big 2" But I just think is there a need to use ECW's name in all of this? Surely not would be my opinion.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-04-2008, 02:42 PM
I think if you draft Taker to RAW you lose some peoples reason for watching S/D. Obviously he isn't the only reason they watch S/D but he can be a big part of why. If you were to draft DX over yes ratings would go higher. How about this..... RAW get Taker & MVP for DX & Y2J?
I think a much fairer trade would be Undertaker for Cena. HHH and HBK don't want to leave Raw, and Raw at the moment has too many guys that are similar (HHH, HBK, Cena, Jericho, Hardy....all four are sort of "good guys with an edge" except for Cena, but Cena's a bigger draw than Jericho and Hardy). Both men are constantly at the top of their brand and could win the top title at any time if need be. However, Undertaker is far more likely to take a backseat to HHH, and even though I like Undertaker a lot better, their mentality for him over the years is "he doesn't need the belt as he's a draw in himself". In the long run, I think this is a moot point, as the WWE seems so high on Cena that they'll never want to "demote" him.
therockyfan316
04-05-2008, 12:53 PM
its clear smackdown needs to improve their product, i already think SD would be the best show if they had something besides taker n edge. so basically, i would send michaels, umaga, and kennedy to smackdown. send batista and matt hardy to raw. keep big show on SD. i think this would pretty much balance out the two shows. as for ecw, i think vince has made it pretty clear he doesnt give two shits about the show...but either way, the now have kane as their champ and i would send finlay over to ecw as well. plus they would benefit from SD's acquisitions.
also, once michaels appears on SD, how great would a semi-year-long fued be i.e. like brock lesnar vs angle. throw edge into the mix and u have a great show.
Hart>HBK
04-08-2008, 06:29 PM
I think that the rosters really need a shake up. Last year Raw got loaded up with talent and Smackdown got big guys who can't wrestle. I think that they need to make each roster more balanced and not stack up one roster at the cost of the others. Making rosters even in talent creates for better wrestling on all shows and more intriguing storylines. Also, I would like to see what the Raw writers can do to build up some young talent because Raw usually only pushes the big named stars and jobs out the rest of the guys. The brand extension is also beginning to look like a joke cause guys appear on different brands all the time. They should use this draft to solidify each brand and make it a rarity for a brands superstars to appear on other shows. This gives each brand their own identity and when there is an inter brand feud, it feels more special. Anyways, my picks would be:
Raw:
Batista - Batista has feuded with basically all the top guys on the SD roster and I think a move to Raw would be good for him and would open doors to new feuds. His feud with Michaels has a lot of potential and can be great. Moving him to Raw so that he can continue this feud seems like a good move to make.
CM Punk - Punk's days on ECW seem to be numbered as he has done virtually all he can on that brand. The next move for Punk would be to go to Raw where he could get more exposure. Having him on Raw could also add depth to the mid-card and Punk could be in some very interesting feuds considering he hasn't feuded with anyone besides John Morrison, Elijah Burke and Chavo Guerrero. Putting Punk on Raw can give him experience and could help him develop into a future main-eventer, something the WWE is lacking in.
Mark Henry - The only reason I would suggest this is because Smackdown has way to many big men and Raw's only crappy big man is Snitsky. Henry could also work well as an enforcer where he could be paired up with someone as their bodyguard.
Victoria - Although she seems to be helping to train the SD divas, I think she should help in the development of Raw's divas considering the Women's Championship is defended on Raw and there are few veteran divas. With Victoria, you could have her help the development of some of the more inexperienced divas such as Candice Michelle and Maria, or you could have her turn face and feud with Beth Phoenix which would also help in Phoenix's development.
Deuce & Domino - These guys were at the top of the SD tag division and have sinced been doing job after job. These guys have a good gimmick and good personalities and I think that they could be successful in Raw's tag division. With Cherry turning face, these guys could leave her behind and start fresh on Raw. Having D&D feud with Holly & Rhodes as well as Cryme Tyme would be pretty interesting.
Elijah Burke - This guy has tremendous talent in the ring and on the mic and I'm surprised that he hasn't become a top heel yet. He has all the tools to become the next great heel and on Raw would be his best chance to do that. Since Raw is always full of promos, having Burke on the mic could help his development and also he could show his personality to a wider audience. Burke could also bring credibility back to the IC Title and strengthen Raw's mid-card and create a new star all at the same time.
Smackdown
Chris Jericho - Ever since his return, it seems as though Jericho has continued to fall down the card, from the main event to the mid-card where he currently has not feud going on. I think that his return was wasted and could have been handled much better. Smackdown will give Jericho a fresh start and Jericho-Edge or even Jericho-MVP mic wars would definitely help boost ratings.
Umaga - Umaga has feuded with pretty much every top face on the Raw roster and moving him to SD seems to be the right move because of the feud opportunities. Undertaker-Umaga could be a really interesting because both of their characters do not talk on the mic. Also Matt Hardy-Umaga and Big Show-Umaga seems intriguing as well as Rey and Umaga.
Cade and Murdoch - Ever since they lost the tag titles to Holly and Rhodes, they have either jobbed on Raw or competed on Heat. SD is a good change of scenery for them where they could establish themselves as the top heel team. Feuds with Yang & Moore as well as Jesse & Festus could definitely deliver decent matches.
Charlie Haas - Whenever I watch Haas I see lost potential. This guy has all the wrestling ability in the world and him doing that mask gimmick proves he has at least a little personality. Pushing him with the wrestling machine gimmick Angle had would be a good idea, especially since WWE is lacking in true technical wrestlers.
Val Venis - Currently, Val is jobbing on Raw and most of the time on Heat as well. He has pretty good mic skills and I think that should use him to replace the Coach on color commentary. Coach is definitely the worst color commentator currently on TV (Don West is pretty brutal too) and makes the worst comments. He has practically no wrestling experience and him and Cole have no chemistry together. Utilizing Val in the commentary role would definitely be better than the Coach.
ECW
Finlay - ECW is in need of a veteran face wrestler and I think Finlay would fit perfectly on ECW. Having him work programs with the younger guys would definitely help the development of future WWE stars. Finlay also brings the brand more credibility which it definitely needs.
DH Smith - Ever since being suspended, Smith hasn't done anything productive. It seems like a waste to have him compete on Heat so moving him to ECW wouldn't be a bad choice. This could help him develop a personality and character as well as improve upon his in-ring ability which is already pretty good.
Carlito - Carlito needs a change of scenery and in ECW he could redefine his character and work as the top heel on the brand. By proving himself on ECW, he could eventually be pushed into the main-event scene on Raw or SD.
Paul London and Brian Kendrick - Since ECW only has one title and only has one hour, it is pretty obvious that it doesn't even have half the credibility of the other two brands. However, I think that in order to give credibility to ECW they need to add another championship and that would be tag titles. Morrison and Miz have proven to be a top tag team and are arguably the best tag team currently in the WWE. Moving Londrick to ECW and having them feud with M & M could help create ECW's tag division and seeing M & M's matches with Yang and Moore, the matches between Londrick and M & M would be awesome.
Paul Burchill and Katie Lea - I think that they should do away with the incest angle and give Burchill and Katie Lea a different program on ECW. Since the WWE always comes up with corny excuses why not come up with one here? They could even forget that Burchill and Lea were related and say that they are a couple. That would definitely be better than watching an incest angle that is weird and demented in so many ways. If these two were put as a couple, I think that they could be much like how Nitro and Melina were and how Edge and Lita were as well, not necessarily as good as them however.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-08-2008, 08:17 PM
Some suggestions....some of which I think are inevitable and not just "what I'm hoping for".
TO RAW
1. Michelle McCool - She's a far better wrestler than Maria and they need some people that can spice up the actual competition as opposed to continuing to bore the shit out of me. Michelle's not a great wrestler, she's just better than Maria. (Her counterbalance trade is Maria)
2. Elijah Burke - He's being buried on ECW and he isn't ready for a huge push. Put him in the midst of the tag team and Intercontinental division. (His counterbalance trade is Carlito)
3. Edge – Nothing left for him on Smackdown. (His counterbalance trade is Orton)
4. CM Punk – I have a feeling he’s taking Hardy’s spot on Raw soon. (His counterbalance trade is Hardy)
5. Batista – Turn him heel and use him on Raw. He’s been on Smackdown long enough. (His counterbalance trade is Umaga)
6. Ron Killings – Not exactly a draft, but put him in the IC division and a tag team with Burke. (His counterbalance trade is D.H. Smith)
7. Edge-Heads – Naturally, with Edge coming over, you need his stable. (Their counterbalance trade is Cade and Murdoch)
TO SMACKDOWN
1. Maria - As far as the women's division talent gauge goes, she's on the low end, so trade her for Michelle. I'd rather see Michelle with the title than Maria. (Her counterbalance trade is Michelle)
2. Cade & Murdoch – Just a change of pace. (Their counterbalance trade is Hawkins and Ryder)
3. Umaga – Nothing left for him on Raw (His counterbalance trade is Batista)
4. Orton – Nothing left for him on Raw (His counterbalance trade is Edge)
5. Jeff Hardy – Though I like him better than CM Punk, I have a feeling Punk’s taking his spot on Raw. Thusly, to prevent him from being buried, I’d put him on Smackdown. (His counterbalance trade is CM Punk)
6. D.H. Smith – Has no place on Raw and now with Neidhart being on Smackdown, they can team up. (His counterbalance trade is Ron Killings)
7. John Morrison – I’d prefer him on Raw, but that would crowd up the main event too much. Use him at the same level as MVP (and thusly, move MVP up to the main event). That would make the main event heels MVP, Orton, Umaga, and Morrison. Nice lineup. (His counterbalance trade is Finlay)
8. The Miz – Team him up with Dykstra and let them both run for the US title and tag team titles. Morrison’s too good for a team with the Miz, but Miz and Dykstra are too good now to be ignored and would be a perfect tag team. (His counterbalance trade is Drew McIntyre)
TO ECW
1. Carlito – Main event possibility. That shuts him up from being upset. (His counterbalance trade is Burke)
2. Drew McIntyre – He isn’t even on Raw, really. Put him on ECW. (His counterbalance trade is The Miz)
3. Finlay – Boring on Smackdown, could put over ECW people very well. (His counterbalance trade is Morrison)
myhighlander
04-08-2008, 10:35 PM
good trades, though I'd rather see punk at SD, and cash in with MVP. It's the only way he'll get to move up in class. Too much talent for him to compete with at RAW.
FoleyIsGod
04-09-2008, 04:20 AM
How about this?
Move Punk to Raw to fued with Jeff Hardy. Switch Punk into heel mode, and let wwe akknowlage Jeff's drug and alcohol problems.
Punk can be all straight edge, therefore better than Hardy, whilst Hrady gets the crowds sympathy and leads to awesome matches ona t least 3 pay per views.
soulfire31
04-09-2008, 12:35 PM
I like the Idea of a Hardy/Punk feud but i would put it on ECW. It would definately help boost the ratings there. My picks would be as follows
To Raw
1. The Undertaker- No one may agree with me on that choice but as he is at the end of his career it would be nice to see one last run on Raw with a feuds with Cena/Triple H/Batista(see next pick)
2. Batista- Time to move him over to Raw in a heel role sent on destroying everyone in his path towards a world title
3. Elijah Burke- He's just lost in the shuffle on ECW not doing much of anything there
4. Michelle McCool- Needs to be going after the Womans championship
5. Edgeheads- While i like them as Edge's security why are they not hunting out the tag titles. Now that they actually have a background not just the Major Brothers could become a dominate force
To ECW
1. Jeff Hardy- Big name draw could feud with Punk/Shelton/Kane/Chavo and just about anyone else. A Hardy/Kofi feud could be a real entertanier as well
2. Finlay- Back as a heel to run a program against Kane
3. Kenny Dykstra- He put on some great matches with Punk and he has potential just needs people to face like Kofi (Needs a manager though maybe Striker)
4. Paul Burchill- As long as Kane is champ you need a few bigger guys for him to feud with
Possibilities
5. Jamie Noble
6. Gregory Helms
With the cruiserweight title gone From Smackdown i would introduce the ECW Telvision Championship. Gives the rest of ECW something to be fighting for and Noble and Helms would be great for that division. This may overload the roster but the T.V title should be defended every week and not always against the same person though there can be feuds over it as well but while the title holder has to defend against others as well could be interesting knowing someone is gunning for him
To Smackdown
1. Randy Orton- I know its his era now but you can only watch him fight Cena and Triple H for so long. He could feud with Edge/MVP/Hardy/Big Show/Mysterio and my next pick...
2. Chris Jericho- Never should of been put on Raw in the first place. He doesn't stand a chance on the Trips/Cena show. Though running a program with Kennedy first would be nice to see maybe with MVP causing him the loss since being the U.S Champ he doesn't want someone else with that midcard title on his show. Could make for a great feud
3. "The Canadian Bulldog" D.H. Smith- Add Nattie Neidhart as his manager and maybe bring T.J. Wilson up to team with will bring something back to the Smackdown tag division.
4. Londrick- Never should of left in the first place. Raw tag division is to big for them in size with Cade and Murdoch/Cryme Time/Highlanders if they ever come back/Holly Rhodes. Feuds with Deuce and Domino/Moore and Yang/ Miz and Morrison/ And the new bulldogs...Wow a tag division on both brands would be nice
5. Ashley- Just has no place on Raw could go back to managing Londrick maybe feud with Nattie and Victoria
Jrei482
04-09-2008, 01:49 PM
To Raw:
CM Punk-Not really a big fan but it seems like this move is pretty much inevitable. He could boost the mid-card somewhat.
Batista-Thought it was time for him to move to raw last draft. He needs some fresh fueds, him and HBK has alot of potential.
Victoria-Has been in the business a long time and deserves to have a shot at the title again.
To Smackdown:
Chris Jericho-I think everyone agrees that he hasn't been used properly since his return. I want to see him in the main event on raw but at this point his best move is probably to smackdown.
Umaga-Has fueded with almost everyone on raw and has been doing alot of jobs lately. Could receive a fresh push on smackdown.
Morrison-Lots of talent, is already a smackdown tag champ so they might as well move him over.
To ECW:
Carlito-Isn't ever going to get pushed on raw. Could work a nice program with someone like Shelton Benjamin.
Santino-Would give ECW someone that is good on the mic and fans someone to hate. Tag team with Carlito isn't really going anywhere.
scsu01
04-09-2008, 10:56 PM
To Raw:
victoria: way better than mccool and should get one more title run before possibly bringing up mccool(she needs to try to get over with fans more)..i think nattie can take over on that show as top heel
Batista: be a heel and feud with someone new
CM Punk: best to put him on there with the direction the wwe wants to go in targeting younger ages
kelly kelly/ or torrie: need a face thats over..mccool may be a better wrestler, but theyre over more plus theyll be seen as bigger underdogs
To SD:
layla: needs more time to get over with fans and be a hot heel
umaga: needs new guys to fight
morrison:bigger and better than ecw
dh smith: needs to develop a character and can do that w/ his cousin
maria: give SD another face until cherry starts wrestlin on tv
to ECW:
burchill/katie lea:getting lost in the shuffle at raw
ashley: she sucks and needs to go somewhere
eve: already seems like shes going..replace kelly kelly if she leaves as face
finlay: being misused on sd..can be much more lethal on ecw
carlito: put him in main event status so he can stop whining
jeff hardy: he has had so much potential but all his problems are gonna keep him from being pushed on raw with the direction the wwe is going..this will be a good place for him for a while to regain peoples trust
i cant think of anyone else anymore
wrestlingfan701
04-09-2008, 11:17 PM
Some likely/realistic trades I can see happening are:
Raw:
Finlay-Hasn't got much left to do on SD! right now. And has mostly been appearing on Raw recently anyway, during his short-lived feud with JBL, (which sucked, obviously).
Michelle McCool-Probably one of the most likely trades in the entire draft, one diva from from SD! is basically guranteed to go to Raw. In this case, it seems most likely to be McCool.
Mark Henry and/or Big Daddy V-As much as we all may hate seeing one or both of these fat greasy wastes of space in wrestling. Either of them could end up going to Raw, I would say Henry might be more likely right now, but who knows? and who gives a crap?
CM Punk-Definately one of the other most likely trades in the entire draft. I really hope they put him up against HHH at Summerslam or something like that, for the title. Yes, it may seem kind of unlikely, but at the same time I don't see why this match can't happen. Punk has to cash in the briefcase at some point and it will apparently be against the wwe champion anyway, so why not? I wouldn't mind seeing him win it either.
Elijah Burke-Why not? He really is being wasted on ECW right now. He has the in-ring skills, the mic skills and everything else needed to go further in wrestling. He could easily be IC champion on Raw. I'm not saying he would beat Jericho for it. But, he could certainly have a reign with the strap at some point if he was moved to Raw.
Kofi Kingston and/or Balls Mahoney-Who knows? Could happen.
Rey Mysterio-Definately not the most likely to happen, mainly because Rey draws big for SD! with the hispanics. So, I probably wouldn't bet Rey will leave SD! after all.
Batista-Could provide more feuds for Batista, hasn't got anyone else left to face on SD!
ECW:
Jeff Hardy-I thought this was originally going to happen when they started pushing Hardy earlier in the year. So, he could get a practise run with the ECW title. And, now I could definately see this happening, I could see him going to ECW, but not winning the ECW title. Probably just him going there to job to the likes of Chavo and others like Benjamin and/or Burke, maybe even Henry and V.
DH Smith/Burchill/Snitsky/Santino/Cade/Murdoch?-Any of these guys could possibly go to ECW, I don't know why, but it wouldn't surprise me to see it happen.
SD!:
Carlito-Apparently they might send Carlito to SD! to form a team with his debuting brother...
Chris Jericho-This is one I can definately see happening, Jericho hasn't been a part of SD! since 2002. If he went back there now he could start a feud with Edge. Which, coincidentally, was actually one of his last feuds while on SD! before switching to Raw.
Umaga-One of the most obvious trades in the draft as well. I feel Umaga should be the next WHC, yes I said it, Umaga should be the one to beat the Undertaker for the world heavyweight title. Who else is there for the job of taking the title off the Undertaker, who is more deserving or better for that job than Umaga right now? Big Show? Yeah right, btw is Show face or heel right now? (I don't know). And, if Khali could get a world title run last year then why not Umaga?
The Highlanders-It was originally reported that they were going to go to SD! at some point. And this would obviously be the best time to do it. That is, if Rory recovers from his injury soon and/or if Robbie isn't still in the doghouse for appearing on Impact! before Mania. Poor guy, if he was sent home and is being treated like crap right now, he really doesn't deserve all that crap they might be giving him just for appearing on Impact!, wtf does it matter? Its as ridiculous as wwe not letting Vickie Guerrero go to AAA to induct Eddie into their hall of fame, more or less every other wrestling promotion around the world is tiny in comparison to wwe anyway, so why the hell do they give a shit about any of this?
Trevor Murdoch-Looks as if he and Cade are almost finished as a team. Might as well be the end of them together, they were getting quite stale and looked like complete shit against Shawn Michaels and maybe Ric Flair last month. It would probably make the most sense to send Murdoch to either SD! or ECW, so Cade might be able to get an IC title run at some time down the line.
Snitsky-For one thing, he's never been on SD!, except recently getting pinned in less than 30 seconds following a spear, spinebuster and batista bomb.
morrisonfan
04-10-2008, 01:18 AM
Here are the draft picks that I would like to see, as well as being the most likely to happen:
RAW:
CM Punk - Obviously he is one of the most likely choices to be drafted over to Raw to be in maybe a feud with Y2J over the IC Title and move up the ladder to the WWE Championship where he will cash in his opportunity.
Batista - Another choice that could happen, I could see him turning heel from his tactics lately and continuing the feud with HBK as well as other's on Raw like Cena, HHH, Y2J, etc.
Elijah Burke - This guy could easily make it as one of the top mid carder's on Raw if used right, I think moving him over to raw and going for the IC Title can give him a huge push. He has the in ring skills as well as the mic skills to put on a good feud.
Edge - As people said, he's feuded with almost everybody worth enough on smackdown and he could move over to raw to have some new feuds with the likes of HHH, Cena, Y2J, etc. Although I don't want him to be buried by the main stars, so I'm not sure on this one.
ECW:
Lance Cade - I heard Cade and Murdoch may be breaking up, so I think this would be a good move as I think Lance has alot of potential to make it big and he could start on ECW and feud for the ECW Title.
Domino - I heard that Domino wanted to leave Deuce and get his own image as a singles star and this guy has charisma and it would be nice to see him get a push and keep the greaser's gimmick as he plays that to perfection. He can get his own finisher and make it as a top guy on ECW, and then move to the mid cards on one of the other shows.
Snitsky - They need to just move him back to ECW where he belongs. At least he was being recognized there. He's on Heat half the time anyways, or he's losing matches on Raw, so this would be for the best.
Finlay - Last year, they moved Benoit to ECW because they needed a veteran to help the rookies out, but that didn't work well, but they should move Finlay over for the same reason as he is one of the best veterans and can help the young stars.
SD:
John Morrison - I'm a huge fan of Morrison and I think he is better than ECW and could be a World Champion on Smackdown or Raw, but he'll get buried on Raw, so they should put him on Smackdown and have some feuds with Matt Hardy, Rey Mysterio, Undertaker and other stars.
Mr. Kennedy - I think Kennedy should just go back to Smackdown. At least he won his first and only title there and I think they could build him up to go for the World Title on Smackdown, he just seems like a Mid Carder on Raw.
Umaga - This is an obvious choice as they have this planned. He's feuded with everyone on Raw, so they should move him to Smackdown to have fresh feuds with a fresh push.
DH Smith - He could have Nattie manage him and he could get a mid card push and be on tv instead of Heat. I like this guy and think he would do well on Smackdown.
Danmen001
04-10-2008, 05:52 AM
When the drafts it will hopefully refresh the rosters.
To Raw:
C.M. Punk : Obviously coming. He has been on quite a few matches lately on Raw. Plus with the MitB, they can't keep him on ECW for too much longer. Eventually, he will get around to cashing in that title.
Batista : DOne verything posible on SD, there is nothing better for him to do then go to Raw.
Finlay : I don't see why not, he can do his hornswaggle routine on the show based more around entertainment.
To SD! :
Shawn Michaels : I have a feeling it is bound to happen, he seems like he needs somethin different to do. Plus he has had all the fueds he can on Raw.
Burke : He hasn't much left to do on ECW, why not bring him to SD!, he has alot of ability.
To ECW :
The Great Khali : He has had runs in the ME on Raw and SD!, so he ma as well be in the title picture on ECW.
The rest are most likely just gonna be supplementry drafts, and people I can't be bothered trying to predict or work out. :thumbsup:
farmboy
04-10-2008, 12:56 PM
Raw
Finley: he can keep his fued going with JBL and compete fot the Intercontinental belt.
Batista: HE can come in and win the WWE [Bbelt from RAndy Orton and set up a former tag team members colide match with Triple h as guest Ref.
Smackdown
Shelton Benjamin: Bring shelton in so their is more compertision for the united states belt. I'm sure he could have some cracking maches with MVP and Matt Hardy .
Shawn michaels: Could have a great fued over heavy weight title with UNdertaker and even Edge.
Ecw
Jeff hardy and Carlito:
Give one of them the belt and these two could have some great maches over it.
I love Draft Time! Although I havn't though a hole lot of who should go where, I have come to the conclusion that with RAW reviving the Tag Team division and ECW having someone like Kane on the show, heres what I'm thinking right off the top of my head.
RAW = Miz and Morrison. With both the WWE and World tag Titles on RAW, we can have a unification match. Horray!
Smackdown = Umaga, so he can continue to feud with Batista.
ECW = Snitsky, Henry, Show, Khali, all those other HUGE guys, and clear the roster of all the little guys while your at it. Has anyone else noticed the Main Event of ECW isn't involving any ECW guys?
Cage917r
04-10-2008, 01:47 PM
The draft is a great thing, it is hard to predict though because there is always one or two shockers, this is what i expect to see or dare I say want to see.
Going to Raw:
1. Batista-They have pretty much thrown out his fued with Umaga, he is fueding with HBK who is on Raw, and there is nothing left for him on Smackdown, a move to Raw would be good for him.
2. CM Punk-I see a rivalry with Y2J in his future, he has to get off ECW since he is MITB, a move to Smackdown in possible, but Raw would probably be better.
3. Edge-its been said Edge=Ratings, since he is not winning his belt back, there is no point for him on Smackdown, plus it would be a great way to get him away from Vickie and that stupid storyline.
Going to Smackdown:
1. John Cena-he is in the same boat as Batista, he has nobody to go against on Raw at this point, Smackdown could be fresh start for him, they could establish him as a heel down the road by having him face Taker for the belt.
2. Mr. Kennedy-he had his greatest success on Smackdown, he should go back were he was at his best. I dont see anything on Raw for him right now, so a move to Smackdown would be good.
3. Shelton Benjamin-he could still fued with Kane down the road on ECW due to the talent exchange, but a fued with Hardy for the US Title, if he takes it off of MVP, would be good for Shelton.
ECW:
1. Mark Henry-have to think this is coming, he is going to fued with Kane eventually and ECW is the only place were he could be decent, there is nothing for him on the other shows.
2. Carlito/Santino-Santino is hilarious, a promo god, but he needs alot of developement on his wrestling skills, Carlito wants a push, a fued with Kane for the title in a couple of months wouldn't be bad, maybe he would end up winning, the fact is all of a sudden WWE is focusing on what 5 tag teams? Some of them are spitting up or moving to a different show.
3. Lance Cade-people think he has what it takes to be great, I dont see it, but if it is going to happen he needs a push, he might be able to get that on ECW.
Total Impact
04-10-2008, 01:57 PM
I love Draft Time! Although I havn't though a hole lot of who should go where, I have come to the conclusion that with RAW reviving the Tag Team division and ECW having someone like Kane on the show, heres what I'm thinking right off the top of my head.
RAW = Miz and Morrison. With both the WWE and World tag Titles on RAW, we can have a unification match. Horray!
Smackdown = Umaga, so he can continue to feud with Batista.
ECW = Snitsky, Henry, Show, Khali, all those other HUGE guys, and clear the roster of all the little guys while your at it. Has anyone else noticed the Main Event of ECW isn't involving any ECW guys?
I would never want to see the TAG Team titles just on Raw as the Raw Brand just misuses Tag Teams. But I doubt the WWE will even hold a draft, but here is the top five picks I think each brand should do:
Raw:
1.Batista(He is pretty much done on Smackdown as being the guy and he could be great on Raw as we could see Batista vS Orton & Cena).
2.Finlay(As Raw needs some mid-card faces).
3.The Miz(He has really improved in the ring and its time for Raw to get a reality check).
4.Chuck Palumbo(He needs a change in both brands and gimmicks).
5.Chavo Guerrero(I think he would work great in the mid-card level as a heel and doesn't need to be the center of attention on any brand).
ECW:
1.Paul Burchill(Incest gimmicks just seems like old EVW fun).
2.Chris Jericho(He could be the top star on the brand and is in some way an ECW Original).
3.Cody Rhodes(Turn him heel and you got yourself a Randy Orton rip-off that could work).
4.MVP(I think ECW is the place to see if you can cut it as a Main Event and this would beperfect for MVP).
5.Matt Freakin Hardy(He fits the look of the old ECW fans and he needs to test the waters of Main Event).
Smackdown:
1.Jeff Hardy(After the latest dumb move, it's time for a change).
2.Triple H(I mean really, do you need to be on Raw anymore, change it up a bit game).
3.CM Punk(No way he is going to cash in money in the back on the ECW title and the WWE would neverlet him wear the WWE Championship).
4.John Morrison(Great look and great talent in the and he could be the Friday Night delight).
5.Elijah Burke(He has skills on the mic and needs a program with time to fit him in).
Small draft changes:
Raw:
1.Kenny Dykstra
2.Balls Mahoney
3.Mike Knox
4.Shannon Moore
5.Domino
ECW:
1.Deuce
2.Super Crazy
3.Lance Cade
4.Paul London
5.Coach
Smackdown:
1.Charlie Hass
2. Shad Gaspar
3.JTG
4.Kofi Kingston
5.Tazz(Because Coach sucks)
But I rather see new talent or proper build up of the talent they have now instead of a draft that will get old after SummerSlam.
TROY OD
04-12-2008, 06:45 PM
i have a strange feelin that since all three brands have gm's why isnt outta the question that we might see a whole roster draft cause all thes predictions i see u guys are sayin have bout 30 people moving why not a open draft again like the first one
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-12-2008, 09:53 PM
i have a strange feelin that since all three brands have gm's why isnt outta the question that we might see a whole roster draft cause all thes predictions i see u guys are sayin have bout 30 people moving why not a open draft again like the first one
I wouldn't mind seeing a more legitimate draft. The last one that they did, with the "randomized" drawing...who did they think they were fooling with that? Lol.
I do like the concept that the brands choose people to go up against each other and the winner gets a draft pick for their brand, but I wouldn't mind seeing the General Managers come out and pick (or Vince, for that matter). The only thing they'd have to watch out for is that they would need to make sure nobody looks weak in the process, like a last round draft pick kind of thing.
kylexxx
04-13-2008, 10:03 AM
I think 2 of the top raw guys need to go over to smackdown and 1 top and 1 upper mid sd guy need to go over to raw without a doubt, either randomly, thru fueds or thru a draft. If the main site is anything to go off they want hhh on smackdown and I think maybe sending dx over could work but highly unlikely or hhh and jericho, or cena jericho, maybe even orton jericho. And send batista definately and maybe mvp or nitro. Punk needs to be on the brand with the ic title and fued with that for a while. I'm not sold on a draft just a couple of talent exchanges
RAW
MVP- This guys has faced everyone on Smackdown basically and has beaten everyone he has faced including Batista. He is on his way to Main Event status.
Benjamin- I really like this guy in the ring he has what it takes he just needs to get a halfway decent gimmick going for himself.
Batista- I don't see him and Umaga extending there fued he got a clean win over him that fued is finished. He is coming to RAW possible Fued with HHH and maybe Cena after his fued with HBK.
Smackdown
Umaga- Logically this where he will end up there aren't anymore people on RAW for him to face and by going to Smackdown he can once again become the monster he was and challenge Taker for the title in what could be a great World title fued if done right.
JBL- This is where he had his original title reign plus finlay is on smackdown and Umaga who JBL has been pissing off latley. I don't see much more for him on Raw.
Jericho- He came back challenged Orton lost fought JBL lost he needs to start over go to smackdown and get back on the winning track.
ECW
Mark Henry- I see him going on a MONSTROUS run in ECW and after a month or two challenging Kane for the title and possibly beating him. to finally get a world title. While I don't think Henry is a good wrestler his undeniable power can certainly take him to the top of ECW where if pushed right and matched up with the right people could be made to look better.
Khali- After his match with Show at backlash which i predict he will lose and lose in a squash he will be on ECW where he will fued with Kane and Henry at some points. He is really bad so no matter who he is in the ring with the match is going to be horrible.
This whole draft thing in WWE to me is stupid ECW has the smallest roster they need more guys and a bigger Time slot on TV to even compete with RAW or Smackdown to be considered a Brand. How can WWE say they have 3 brands when ECW has a one hour time slot and a 15 man roster with whom only 8 of the guys are even featured on TV.
vanhelan
04-14-2008, 01:49 AM
As much as I would enjoy seeing the GM's do the picks, it couldn't be realistic. At least with the "random" drawing they can cover themselves when Raw gets The Undertaker, Edge, Kane, MVP, Batista, and Big Show and ECW and Smackdown end up with Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Trevor Murdoch, Todd Grisham, Super Crazy, Ashley, Robbie Mcallister, Mike Admale, and Charlie Haas.
Luten
04-14-2008, 03:40 AM
Jericho needs to go where Triple H aint - I've always said that. In order for Jericho to truly shine he needs to be on a separate brand to the H man. I like both guys equally but one of them needs to move to the Blue Team.
CM Kev
04-14-2008, 07:16 AM
Raw
CM Punk (has outgrown ECW and needs this move now before he grows stale on Tuesdays)
Batista (has wrestled everyone on SmackDown several times and also needs fresh opponents)
Finlay (has been on Raw mostly in recent weeks anyway so move would make sense)
SmackDown
Carlito (is wasting away on Raw,this could revive his career)
Umaga (a fresh opponent for Undertaker)
Mr Kennedy (was far more successful on SmackDown and needs to go back for more TV time)
ECW
Jeff Hardy (ECW needs an established wrestler who the fans are completely behind and he is the man for the job)
Mark Henry (waste of space regardless of where he goes but I guess he could wrestle Kane)
Charie Haas (a talented wrestler who is languishing on Heat,could be so much more)
Imhere
04-14-2008, 10:18 AM
RAW
CM Punk- There have been talks within WWE that CM Punk should go to RAW and I can see it happening in the draft.
Batista- With his whole fued with Shawn Michaels taking place he will finally get to wrestle an established RAW superstar. RAW wants Batista and I could see this happening.
Jesse and Festus- They need someone new to talk the gold off of Hardcore Holly and Cody Rhodes. I think that Jesse and Festus are the men to do it.
Smackdown
Mr. Kennedy- His most successful part of his career was with Smackdown. And he has nothing to do on RAW. It seems to make sense.
Chris Jericho- He is getting lost in the shuffle. So by moving to Smackdown he can have fueds with Taker, Mysterio and Edge.
Carlito- He may not be a main eventer but he will be someone new to stick in the US title picture.
London and Kendrick- Smackdown needs them back and RAW is mis using them.
ECW
Charlie Haas- He has nothing to do on RAW, except for HEAT. He will follow Shelton Benjamin over to ECW.
The Great Khali- After losing Big Daddy V, they need a new power house. This man will provide that.
Kane- The ECW champion will be shipped officially over to ECW.
Chavo Guerrero- Without the cruiserweight championship he has nothing on Smackdown. So he will be shipped to ECW.
havertkingofkings619
04-14-2008, 10:31 AM
I like the trades that you have suggested, but I have no god damn clue when the draft is can someone please tell me, but here are some of my ideas i hope you guys will like them:
RAW-Batista because let's face it his fued's are over there
-Edge I 'm an edge fan and he's done over at smackdown I'd love to see Edge and Triple H go at for the WWE Title but with edge comes rider and hawkings ( a trade for sanito and carlito)
- MVP ( trade for Ken Kennedy ) that way he can compete for the IC belt and would make up some good fued's
- Undertaker that way he can go at with Kane or maybe even Big Show or possibly John Cena
Smackdown
This show needs some help so yeah here's my picks
John Cena - Come on a Batista Cena fued would make thousands of dollars and bring up ratings
CM Punk - just let him get the world title and he'll be the next rey mysterio for smackdown
JBL - Nobody wants him on raw and he be good back on smackdown
Randy Orton- Raw's champ is bone dry for fued's and he needs some more
and as for ECW I dont watch so I can care less
thanks for your time ppl and will someone please let me know when the draft will take place
Cody Havert
mrtuddy
04-19-2008, 11:27 PM
People need to stop posting things that would never happen.
Triple H is staying on RAW.
Undertaker is staying on Smackdown.
Cena is staying on RAW.
Orton is staying on RAW.
Mr. Kennedy is staying on RAW.
HBK is staying on RAW.
WWE knows that these are their biggest draws on the programs and won't give that up.
And in case people haven't noticed -- Kane and Chavo Guerrero are officially ECW superstars. Go check out wwe.com
And I agree with Smackdown-ECW trades being irrelevant, but a wrestler appears more on his/her homeshow.
But things that I would like to see:
RAW:
CM Punk
Finlay/Hornswoggle (I actually really enjoyed seeing them on RAW this past year)
SMACKDOWN:
D.H. Smith (Hart Foundation)
The Highlanders
ECW:
Super Crazy
Umaga (I know he's supposed to be moved to Smackdown, but I think he'd make a good ECW Champ -- and he'd be with Estrada again.)
DIVA-wise:
Kelly Kelly to RAW (I think she's been improving)
Michelle McCool to RAW
Katie Lea-Burchill to ECW (We need some established Divas on ECW)
Victoria to ECW (See above)
Other than that I think that certain people should stay on their programs -- Deuce/Domino, Holly/Rhodes, Mysterio, MVP
War Games
04-22-2008, 04:30 AM
the draft can be a hit or miss depending on what outcoems happern for me to be satisfied i need
Raw
Finlay and son:enjoy him or raw could get a run in with orton regal jbl and who knows id love to see him and cena trade blows.
mark henry: now i know people will be a bit againts me on this on but his career is coming to end anyway and could, cause some damage to raws faces.
Jesse and festus:a direct swap with london and kendrick woudl be nice
Knox: a tag team formation of him and snistky could save there careers.
Punk: his time to establish himself as a top star is now
ECW/Smackdown
Rhodes: i think wwe can give this kid a bigger moment in the sun and really push him well, got teh young talent to feud with no questions asked.
Santino and carlito: they will need the odd couple here, carlito could revive his career in us title divisio, and they could also job morella.
cade: if he and murdoch are breaking up sending him to tuesday or friday nights could kick start a solo career.
HBK: out of all moves i pray that this one will happen
MVP, morrison,edge, taker all killer feuds
Umaga:new feuds will save his character
Brian and kendrick: friday nights is there place
Soul Reaper
04-23-2008, 07:36 PM
Heres how I would like the split to go. Each brand gets 5 picks from each roster, but can only pick 3 from ECW.
Raw's 8 Picks
1. Undertaker (SD!)
2. Mark Henry (SD!)
3. Finlay (SD!)
4. MVP (SD!)
5. Matt Hardy (SD!)
6. CM Punk (ECW)
7. Kelly Kelly (ECW)
8. Elijah Burke (ECW)
SD! Picks
1 Shawn Michaels (Raw)
2 Chris Jericho (Raw)
3 Santino Marella (Raw)
4. Val Venis (Raw)
5. Umaga (Raw)
6. Chavo Guerrero (ECW)
7. Miz (ECW)
8. Morrison (ECW)
ECW Picks
1 Cody Rhodes (Raw)
2. Hardcore Holly (Raw)
3. Super Crazy (Raw)
4. Carlito (Raw)
5. JBL (Raw)
6. Jamie Noble (SD!)
7. Khali (SD!)
8. Chuck Palumbo (SD!)
9. Big Show (SD!)
10. Vladimir Kozlov (SD!)
This is some really good draft picks. If they did it like this Raw and Smackdown would be able lose and gain superstars while some young talent could build their character on ECW.
it0mmy
04-26-2008, 01:09 PM
If a Draft happens,this is what i would like to see happen
Superstars:
1. London and Kendrick to Smackdown. They were better there and i think that they were more over the crowd there
2. Umaga to Smackdown. It always the same thing with him on RAW. he beats the hell out of some local Wrestlers
3. Snitsky to ECW. ECW seems to match his Gimmick more
4. JBL to Smackdown. He was always better there i thought.
5. Edge to RAW. I hate this "affair" he is having with Vickie.
6. HBK to Smackdown. He needs newer opponents and Smackdown is where he should be
7. Chuck Palumbo to Raw. He's a Good wrestler and i can see him getting an title reign
8. Matt Hardy to RAW. Reunite the HARDYS!
9. Mr. Kennedy to Smackdown. I liked him better there
10. Burchill to ECW. He seems good in the ring. so let him start in ECW and work his way up
Divas:
1. Torrie Wilson to RAW. Great Ability and Really over with the crowd. She needs a shot at the title
2. Victoria to RAW. Really Good. She needs a Shot at the title too.
3. Maria to Smackdown. She's a Good Face and over with the crowd and i think she can work on her abilities in Smackdown
4. Ashley to Smackdown. Let her manage someone. we don't need her with a belt around her waist
I bet some of these won't happen but i wish
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-26-2008, 03:28 PM
Some things I think might be happening...their counterbalance trades are located in the [brackets], for organization.
TO RAW
1. Elijah Burke = [Carlito] = Buried on ECW, Smackdown already has a cocky black guy heel in MVP, so he isn't necessary in that midcard. He's perfect for Raw's midcard.
2. Batista = [Umaga] = Hopefully, he becomes Raw's monster heel. He has nothing left for him as a face on Smackdown.
3. CM Punk = [Jeff Hardy] = I think they'll use him at the same level that Hardy was being used. AKA, in limbo between the midcard and main event.
4. Ron Killings = [D.H. Smith] = May not necessarily be a draft, but just his debut. He'll be in the midcard and tag team division with Burke.
TO SMACKDOWN
1. The Miz = [Lance Cade] = Might not be necessary, as he's a tag champion, but they'll make it official soon enough. He's proven himself beyond an ECW jobber.
2. Umaga = [Batista] = Exhausted all of his feuds on Raw. He'll be the first to challenge the Undertaker.
3. Jeff Hardy = [CM Punk] = I can see this happening. He'll be in the main event of the B-show to test him out to see if he can run with it successfully.
4. D.H. Smith = [Ron Killings] = Lower realm of the midcard on Smackdown, or in the tag team running. He'll be aligned with Neidhart.
TO ECW
1. Lance Cade = [The Miz] = He takes the Miz's spot on ECW as a guy they want to give a slight push to, but aren't sure if he can possibly handle it. Thusly, he'll be given some simple feuds, like one with Dreamer or Richards.
2. Carlito = [Elijah Burke] = Just a shy underneath the main event of ECW.
3. Finlay = [CM Punk] = He fills in CM Punk's spot and is the second main face on ECW right behind Kane, since he's the champ. Finlay is used to put over guys like Shelton and Carlito, whilst defeating guys like Cade.
*Potential #1 = Edge and Orton switching places, as both have exhausted all their feuds. If this is to happen, Ryder & Hawkins would have to move over to Raw, so Raw would have to lose a heel tag team...possibly with the Murdoch/Cade split up? I can see that happening, but in order to do so, Orton needs to lose his title first.
*Potential #2 = Some sort of a switch up between Morrison, Kennedy, and/or MVP. Morrison and MVP just need one big, solid push and they'll be at the lower rung of the main event ladder. Kennedy, unfortunately, missed out on his opportunity to become the King of the Ring, which could have done that, so I'd relegate him to the IC title on Raw. If so, moving Morrison over to Raw would be the better move than MVP, as MVP is closer to the main event than Morrison is right now, and Smackdown could use another solid heel. Morrison would be at the same level as Kennedy, Jericho, Punk, and HBK, in that they're main event caliber, but not constantly fighting for the top title. They're the guys with feuds on the side.
*Potential #3 = Some sort of Diva swap has to happen. When Candice comes back, Raw's faces will be too crowded to add another face in like Michelle or Kelly. I think we might see Kelly move over in place of either Maria or Candice, who will go over to ECW/Smackdown, especially since Torrie most likely isn't coming back. The best option for them would be to just defend the women's title on all 3 shows and have the divas as a sort of crossover section, not on any specific brand, but they won't do that.
myhighlander
04-26-2008, 06:12 PM
Heres how I would like the split to go. Each brand gets 5 picks from each roster, but can only pick 3 from ECW.
Raw's 8 Picks
1. Undertaker (SD!)
2. Mark Henry (SD!)
3. Finlay (SD!)
4. MVP (SD!)
5. Matt Hardy (SD!)
6. CM Punk (ECW)
7. Kelly Kelly (ECW)
8. Elijah Burke (ECW)
SD! Picks
1 Shawn Michaels (Raw)
2 Chris Jericho (Raw)
3 Santino Marella (Raw)
4. Val Venis (Raw)
5. Umaga (Raw)
6. Chavo Guerrero (ECW)
7. Miz (ECW)
8. Morrison (ECW)
ECW Picks
1 Cody Rhodes (Raw)
2. Hardcore Holly (Raw)
3. Super Crazy (Raw)
4. Carlito (Raw)
5. JBL (Raw)
6. Jamie Noble (SD!)
7. Khali (SD!)
8. Chuck Palumbo (SD!)
9. Big Show (SD!)
10. Vladimir Kozlov (SD!)
While I do agree these are good picks, I can't help but notice how RAW and SD are basically swapping time slots. In that case I don't see this happening.
I have been having a few thoughts for several weeks, and after trolling(and getting banned) I'm ready to toss them out:
CM PUNK, goes to SD and cashes in the MITB for the US title. He and MVP had a small feud early on, but it never came to anything(this is when he was still the ECW champ. Once MVP loses, he goes to RAW, heels with y2J and Matt Hardy for the ICC.
Eventually Matt finally gets his revenge(over MVP or y2J, and takes over his brother's title and carries it on long time.
HHH needs to swallow his pride and just MOVE over to SD and feud with the deadman. It's his only chance to stay face being as that he has really exhausted all feuds.
After HBK defeats BATISTA... the ANIMAL moves to RAW and becomes the heel for CENA/ORTON and eventually gets the title.
MIZ/MORRISON to RAW, as tag champs, but end up losing to JESSE/FESTUS (who have moved to ECW- more their style). After losing the tags, they feud with each other and go after Matt Hardy. Hardy keeps winning cause one or the other will interfere since they can't stand the thought of either of them winning the title.
FINLAY to ECW. He has real talent and can help bring some of the new talent OVER.
KANE stays at ECW and has a fruitful reign.
Jeff Hardy returns at ECW and is a solid mid, until he can earn another push and NOT screw up.
EDGE stays at SD for now, and will have his hands full with HHH for a while.
There are many other possibilities, but all I can say is that for there to be better action, the CRUISERWEIGHT has to come back. Right now all three factions are saturated with mids that have nothing to work for.
I also agree that the DIVAS need to just float on all 3.
Looking forward to the feedback, thanks.
*side note*
I really am Liking KOFI, but I can't seem to place him anywhere. Is it possible a NEW title could be formed?
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
04-26-2008, 08:15 PM
While some of the picks you mentioned, I'm all for, some of them don't really seem to make much sense to me. For instance...
Matt not winning the US title, moving over to Raw, feuding for the IC title, Punk cashing it in on the US title, and then MVP moving over to Raw...it isn't really to the benefit of any of the three of them, so why not just keep MVP and Hardy on Smackdown and feud for the US title like they are, and have Punk win the IC title?
Morrison/Miz going over to Raw so they have 2 tag team titles, but losing it to Jesse/Festus, who move over to ECW subsequently, and then Morrison being demoted down to not being able to beat Matt Hardy for a midcard title?
HHH to Smackdown, definitely game for that (mind the pun) as long as they balance it out nicely. Batista to Raw as their monster heel, definitely. Finlay to ECW underneath Kane, definitely. I like those trades a lot.
Jeff to ECW, though...I don't see why, cause with Kane and Finlay, you've taken up most of your time schedule on the one hour show already. Jeff would be better suited on Smackdown to take Finlay's place at the low end of the main event, I think.
Cruiserweight division...I don't know...I like the fast paced action, but everyone always complains about how badly the tag team division and midcard division need more feuds, and to do that, you need more wrestlers to choose from. Having the Cruiserweight title relinquished allowed us to get Jimmy Wang Yang and Shannon Moore in a tag team to greatly help out on Smackdown.
Kofi...I'm a fan of him too. I'd just throw him in as a midcard challenger along the same lines as Cody Rhodes. Both guys are too green to hold the IC/US titles, I think, but they could have a couple of good feuds and a missed title shot now and again while they're building themselves up. Same goes for Paul Burchill, D.H. Smith, and hopefully Ted DiBiase Jr. if he's good enough.
myhighlander
04-27-2008, 01:24 AM
I'm glad it was you that first replied. I have much respect for your knowledge and posts.
I'm also pleased you go with me on the MEAT of my picks.
As for PUNK, as much as I like him, I just don't think he's over enough for the IC. US seems to be the more logical step (IMHO). MVP, as much as I dislike him, could possibly get that push to the ME and feud with CENA/ORTON. I think that would greatly benefit him, and it's obvious that this is the direction Vince is sending him in.
How about after they lose the tag belts, the team gets split up. Morrison has good moves and technique, but his mic skills pain my head. Miz has nice skills/technique as well (I just can't stand him for his "gimmick" Chick Magnet, c'mon give me a break). Keep Morrison on RAW, and he can feud/battle for the IC. Send Miz to SD and renew a feud with PUNK.
Jesse/Festus need to be belt holders, just NEED to. Perhaps they can get the other one, and Jimmy/Shannon can get MIZ/MORRISON'S???
I think we just agree that all 3 are just way too saturated at the mid level. SOMETHING has to be done to remedy that. None of them can realistically hang with TAKER, EDGE, HHH... If not the CW, then how about a few more "extra" titles? I remember a long time ago *shows his age* with the NWA, they had quite a few (world, us, tv, international...) and as long as I watched, it really held firmly together. Benjamin, has mad skills but his "gimmick" sucks. Burke is very skilled, but needs a better finisher. He had a slight push, but now it's gone. What happened with that? Is it because he ran like a bat out of hell during that GHOST HUNTERS LIVE episode? lol. Things really did go downhill for him since that night, hmmmm. KOFI is too good to get stuck at mid, but there just is way too much talent right now. I like his push, but right now the best I can envision is him teaming up with someone and going for the tag....
My head is pounding from all this confusion. I'll just sit back and enjoy BACKLASH tonight. Who knows? Maybe some NEW kind of twists will develop to make this even MORE confusing than it already is, lol.
johnpauliii
04-27-2008, 09:43 AM
I would make the following changes in regards to an upcoming draft:
From Raw to Smackdown:
Shawn Michaels
I think this guy has done everything he can on Raw and there is nobody left to have a good feud with. I don't really want to see him tangle with HHH, Orton or Cena again anytime soon. Long term I see him mixing it up with Edge, Batista, Jericho (see later) and renewing a classic feud with Undertaker (HBK v Taker at WM25 anyone?)
Chris Jericho
I also think Y2J should make the move as well. He is lost in the shuffle on Raw and I just don't see it happening there for him. I would like HBK v Jericho feud on Smackdown, I'd also like Jericho to be in title programme with Taker. Give him a higher profile on Smackdown.
Umaga
Also a change of scenery and new opponents. Umaga v Taker would also be good I think, as would Umaga v Edge. I'm torn whether to have him as a face or heel though.
Big Show
I think he's currently a Raw guy. In which case, move him to Smackdown. I'd like to see him mix it up with Batista, who I'd turn heel to give his character a change. Keep Big Show as a bad-ass face, I think.
Kendrick & London
I'd give these guys a change of scene and move them back to Smackdown where they'd be more suited.
Hardcore Holly
Have Holly turn heel on Cody Rhodes and move him to Smackdown, or even ECW. He'd make a great nasty bad-ass stiff bastard, really living up to his 'hardcore' name sake, rather than a dull, generic face charcater on raw.
From Smackdown to Raw
CM Punk
He'd be good making a permanent move to Raw, though I'd keep him as a face. I envisage feuds with Mr Kennedy (upon his return) and later with Randy Orton, William Regal, maybe even HHH.
MVP
I'd have MVP to eventually lose the US belt to Matt Hardy which would facilitate a move to Raw. (I'm thinking a ladder match as a stipulation - a Hardy speciality - and the stakes are raised whereby he says 'if I lose I quit'. he loses, but only quits Smackdown... turning up at Raw the following Monday. I think he's a great characater and would shine on Raw. Love the cocky heel character, though possibly a face turn in the more distant future?
Kane
Once again a change around for Kane, though after he drops the ECW title down the line.
Again, I'm torn about whether to keep him face or go back to a sadistic heel character. He's not doing anything of note on Smackdown/ECW, I think he should be used better.
Mark Henry
Here's another guy who has nothing left to do on Smackdown. How about a run on Raw some time in the future against Cena or HHH. I don't like the guy much but I think these two examples might work. I wouldn't have him in the main event on a long term basis though!!
Shelton Benajmin & Elijah Burke
To Raw, as a tag team. Though make them solid and the tag belts are theirs.
Deuce & Domino
Again I don't like these guys, though I think a change could be good with their character-based gimmicks suiting Raw quite well.
Bentista
05-06-2008, 11:26 PM
this is what i would do and it would be PIMP. i'll first start off with the big name changes. my goal is to make smackdown similar to the attitude era, ECW more extreme and give it a bigger push, while RAw still maintaining the A brand status.
From Raw to Smackdown:
Jeff Hardy - Always has been on raw since the first draft like 5 years ago. Going to Smackdown would open up exciting new feuds and give him a bigger push he needs and deserves.
Randy Orton - trade batista for orton since orton no longer holds the title. batista is boring as the top dawg on SD and could make a bigger impact on raw. meanwhile orton is better for storylines which would be great for SD. would like to see undertaker/ orton fued for title again.
Super Crazy- high flyer doing nothing on raw. his talent would be needed and apprciated on SD. i'd like to see him form a tag team with mysterio.
Chris Jericho - Another guy whose only been on raw. one the best wrestlers wwe has and he hasnt been doing shit on raw cuz he's dryed up there.
Shawn Michaels - he's been feuding with every mutha fuck on raw and he needs new fights. bringing him to the SD mix would bring back some of the attitude era to the show.
Hardcore Holly - split on that little loser cody rhodes and go to smackdown to return to hardcore/badass ways. also adding a little more attitude added to smackdown. i see him having sweet hardcore battles with finlay or something?
From Smackdown/ECW to RAW
Batista - traded for orton. boring on smackdown. needs big push. would be better on raw.
CM Punk - works the best on raw since winning MITB.
MVP - ready for a bigger push.
Bobby Lashley - would tough main event competition lost with HBK and Y2J going to SD!
Chuck Palumbo- no point on SD! Form a tag team on Raw
Big Daddy V - Replacing Umaga on Raw
ECW gets...
Mr. Kennedy - needs a little push and would have ECW at his mercy.
Khali - failure on SD! and Raw. Ecw is the only fit cuz the freaks work good over there.
Umaga - Needs to get off raw. big push on ECW for him while helping the young talent develop.
Jamie Noble - Light up cruiserweight division
Shannon Moore - Cruiserweight Division
Funaki - Crusierweight divison
* These are the big name changes i would make. I would also switch up the tag team divisons, move the cruiserweight division to ecw to make it more extreme, and the women's champion should appear on all shows to ignite the diva competion. most importantly, get some of the big names the fuck out of raw so there are new feuds that we havent seen. jeff hardy, hbk, and y2j are like the only superstars to never switch shows!
Here are the ways i would shake up the tag team divison i would move....
To Smackdown:
Cryme Tyme
Shelton Benjamin and Haas (reform tag team)
also i'd....
Reform hardy boyz
Have Super Crazy and Rey Mysterio tag together
Have Chavo and Edge tag
Give Zack Ryder and Curt Hawkins a push when the time comes
To ECW:
Brian Kendrick and Paul London
Jesse and Festus
Colin Delhany and Cody Rhodes
To Raw:
Deuce and Domino
John Morrison and Miz
Matt Striker and Mike Knox (give them a better push on raw)
So after my extreme wwe draft shake-up for 2008, here are the new rosters:
Main Raw Superstars Goal to maintain A brand status)
Batista
Big Daddy V
Bobby Lashley
Carlito
Chuck Palumbo
CM Punk
DH Smith
Deuce
Domino
Jim Duggan
JBL
Jerry the King
John Cena
John Morrison
J.R.
Matt Striker
Mike KNox
The Miz
MVP
Paul Burchill
Robby Mcallister
Ron Simmons
Rory mCallister
Santino Marella
Snitsky
Triple H
Val Venis
Vince
WIlliam Regal
Main Smackdown! superstars (goal to achieve attitude era feel again)
Big Show
Charlie Haas
Chavo Guerrero
Chris Jericho
Curt Hawkins
Edge
Finlay
Hardcore Holly
Jeff Hardy
JTG
Mark Henry
Matt Hardy
Mick Foley
Michael Cole
Randy Orton
Rey Mysterio
Shad
Shawn Michaels
Shelton Benjamin
Super Crazy
Theodore Long
Undertaker
Zack Ryder
main ECW superstars (goal to get push and get a little extreme again)
Armando Estrada
Bam Neely
Boogeyman
Brian Kendrik
Chody Rodes
Colin Delhaney
Elijah Burke
Festus
Funaki
Jamie Noble
Jesse
Kane
Khali
Kofi Kingston
Mr. kennedy
Nunzio
Paul London
Shannon Moore
Steven Richards
Taz
Tommy Dreamer
Umaga
here are just a few storyline ideas off the top of my head with the new and improved rosters...
Smackdown:
get rid of ecw title. unite it with world heavyweight title in a champion vs champion match kane vs undertaker. make kane a badass heel again and some dark storylines. i think the unified title should be the newer wwe titlebelt since john cena's belt is the new wwe championship raw. it's a cool belt that isn't around anymore so it should be the smackdown belt rather then the lame wcw belt.
Randy Orton looks for title shot after losing to triple h on raw. starts up epic feud with undertaker again.
bring back the hardy boyz! tag team division heats up with hardyz, cryme tyme, edgeheads, haas and benjamin, and the new team of mysterio and super crazy.
shawn michaels heel turn.
edge and randy orton come together in feud against undertaker. they form the "Rated R" stable with other smackdown heels
long hardcore feuds between superstars such as finaly, hardcore holly, mark henry, big show, hbk, jericho
what cha all think?
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
05-08-2008, 01:35 AM
I would like to see a combination of last year's model with the "GM prospect" method.
For example, say there's a limited amount of draft choices...roughly...15? Idk, let's just use that as a number. All three General Managers...or maybe other people, depending on how they want to do it, as I can't see Regal being fair in this storyline he's in...they are told that there will be 15 matches (triple threat if you use ECW as its own brand, one-on-one if you go with the talent exchange, which would be better in my opinion).
Now, those in charge have to choose the representatives of their brand in who they feel will defeat the other people...similar to the "brand supremacy" angle at WrestleMania this year. Miz is chosen as one of the representatives for Smackdown/ECW, Kennedy is a representative of Raw. The two of them face off, Kennedy wins, Raw gets a draft choice. Then, the GM or whoever chose Kennedy and the rest of the lineup, chooses who they want to come over to Raw.
That gives you a combination of action (the matches to determine the people who get the choices) as well as a feel of a legitimate lust for some certain wrestlers. It also gives you the opportunity to have a lot of your top stars on the 3 hour show, pleasing lots of fans as they get to see rare match-ups like HBK versus MVP, Orton versus Kane, blah blah blah.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
05-26-2008, 11:40 PM
Well, McMahon made it official tonight. June 23rd = 2008 WWE Draft.
As some things have changed recently as far as the structure of the WWE goes (such as Orton losing the title), some updated predictions:
TO RAW:
1. Edge, Hawkins, Ryder - Banished from Smackdown by/due to Vickie.
2. Elijah Burke - To tag team with Ron Killings and fill in the midcard, as Smackdown and ECW already have Shelton and MVP.
3. CM Punk - Supposedly they want this. Hopefully, if that's the case, he turns heel and replaces Kennedy's heel spot (since he's going to stay face).
TO SMACKDOWN or ECW
1. Umaga - No elaboration needed.
2. D.H. Smith - Unless Natalya moves over to Raw, which she might, as Melina just turned face, effectively.
3. Jeff Hardy - With Punk possibly going over to Raw, Jericho as IC champ, HBK/HHH/Cena going nowhere, Hardy could move to Smackdown easily and be in the main event. This is the perfect spot for him to have some change of pace and a test-run with a world title. Unfortunately, if Edge moves over, he misses out on a feud.
4. Lance Cade - Can't see him staying on Raw, but he might.
5. Randy Orton - Possibility, but maybe not. Idk, it all depends. He's run out of feuds on Raw, though.
Unless they're going to do away with the Smackdown/ECW talent exchange with this Heat/ECW switch, I don't see many people moving from Smackdown to ECW or ECW to Smackdown, as its unnecessary. For instance, why bother moving Morrison or Miz to Smackdown if they're already the tag champs, when that would just waste a draft pick and they can just move them over anyway?
tripleh'sbumbuddy
05-27-2008, 01:05 AM
Heres how the 2008 draft is gonna go down...
Shawn Michaels (raw) for Edge (smackdown) - Edge has had too many shots at the World Heavyweight Championship, give Shawn Michaels a go!
Randy Orton (raw) for MVP and Finlay (smackdown) - BEcause Orton's done enough on Raw.
Kane (ECW) for Umaga (raw) - Cause Umaga will go ape @#$! on ECW!
Kofi Kingston and Shelton Benjamin (ECW) for Jesse and Festus (smackdown) - Maybe...
The Great Khali (smackdown) for Elijah Burke (ecw) - Khali needs some new rivals like the Miz and Morrison or Colin Delaney.
CM punk will cash in his Money in the Bank on smackdown and become champ
Here is what I'd like to see....
From Raw to SmackDown!/ECW
Haas - Supposedly, SmackDown! is the "wrestling" show, whereas Raw is the "entertainment" show.....so, why not put the wrestler on the wrestling show? He could be a great contender for the US Title....so long as he drops the mask gimmick
DH Smith - See above. We haven't even seen what this kid can do yet
Cade - There's really nothing for him on Raw. I doubt he'll ever enter the IC title picture, so give him a shot at the US title
Cena - He really needs to get his face off of Raw. Futhermore, he should turn heel and feud with Batista and the like.
HBK - Nothing for him to do on Raw anymore. He's gone through basically everyone. This will freshen things up for him.
Umaga - Apparently he's supposed to feud with 'Taker.
Maria - Divas belong on SmackDown!
Jillian - See above
Candice - Ditto
Ashley - Ditto
From SmackDown!/ECW to Raw
MVP - The hottest property since Kennedy deserves to get his chance to shine on Raw
Natalya - Why a talented female wrestler like this is stuck on SmackDown!, I'll never know.
Victoria - Ditto
Mark Henry - He's got squat on SmackDown!/ECW.....put him in an enforcer-type role on Raw
Morrison - His talent is being wasted with Miz
Duece (so long as he changes his gimmick) - The son of Snuka deserves to be on Raw.
incrediblesim
05-27-2008, 07:29 AM
I have posted on this thread before but I have put some more thought into it as it was announced last night.
I think this Draft should really shake things up to get some fresh feuds building up for W/M 25.
RAW
GM- Vince McMahon
Male Wrestlers
Hardened Main Event- Undertaker (F), Triple H (H), Edge (H), Shawn Michaels (F)
Higher Mid- Card- Jeff Hardy (F), Big Show (F), Chris Jericho (H), JBL (H)
Mid Card/Tag Teams- CM Punk (F), The Great Khali (H), MVP (H), Cryme Tyme (F), Elijah Burke & Ron Killings (F), Carlito (H), Santino (H), Snitsky & Vladimir Kozlov (H), Ted DiBaise Jr.& Burchill (F), The Edgeheads (H)
Comedy Spot Role- Trevor Murdoch
Certified Jobbers- Funaki, Val Venis, Super Crazy
Female Wrestlers-
Beth Phoenix, Mickie James, Victoria, Katie- Lea Burchill, Natalie Neidhart, Melina, Kelly Kelly, Ashley, Candice Michelle, Michelle McCool
Cocktail Gherkin
05-27-2008, 01:07 PM
im so exited about this after last night
Vince Mcmahon said he needed to shake things up and he always delivered on
his word when he says something like that and the way wwe has been going
im expecting some big moves heres what i think will happen
SMACKDOWN GETS
Randy Orton theres nothing left for him on RAW
Chris Jericho i realy want this to happen the possibilities are endless
Umaga this is obvious
John Morrison he's good and he need outta ECW
DH Smith they could push this guy into the us title picture
RAW gets
Batista this has to happen
MVP this would be a nice fresh start for him
Cm punk he'll contend for the i - c title
mark henry just another big guy for cena to feud with
michellle mcool because it would freshen up the womens division
ECW gets
Jeff Hardy he'd be perfect as ECW champion
William Regal it would just fit
Carlito he has nothing better to do
Chuck Palumbo just another ok guy to have
Finlay he could get a run with the ecw title
Esteban Ochocinco
05-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Call me the naysayer, but I fail to see the excitement in this thing anymore. The draft used to be great because it used to happen every other year. There used to be enough time that people were away from a brand that the build for a feud could grow and grow. Now, we get this every summer and oh, well you've been away from that brand for a year, so you're going back and having the same feud again.
Anyways what to expect.
Triple H and Shawn Michaels stay on Raw and the Undertaker and Kane stay on Smackdown/ECW. These guys are the aging veterans but locker room leaders.
As far as major changes go.
1. Edge to Raw. Really, no shocker here. Taker is going to get the title and Edge will go back to Raw and more then likely feud with Triple H right away, or that will be the main event of WM 25.
2. Youmanga to Smackdown. It was talked about last year, and I personally see it happening. Youmanga vs. Undertaker will probably be Smackdowns main event going into Summerslam this year.
Overall, unless something very drastic happens, I can't see much happening as far as main event players moving around. i think you will see someone like Carlito head back to Smackdown, but for the most part, Raw is going to come out strong. However, Smackdown is making a big network change this fall, so don't be surprised to see a few extra mid card guys head on over to the B Show.
Mighty NorCal
05-27-2008, 03:04 PM
LOL all these people with these huge laborious lists, and all this mayhem that will supposedly ensue. False. I agree with Big Shock, Itll probably boild down to Edge to RAW, and Umaga to SD!. If we are to belive the reports on WZ, Vince has already said Umaga is going to SD!, so that much is fairly plain. Umaga Vs Taker, and EDGE vs TRIPLE H both have money written all over them. Triple H has often spoke well of Edge, and talks about not getting to work with him as much as he would like. So I could see Edge possibly heading over there. Becuase I cant see either Edge or Taker both being on SD! after this rivalry after its over without things being awkward.I think Jericho heading to SD! would be big for them, as it would further solidify the upper mid card, and get rid of the two man shows they seem to like to run over there. I also wouldnt be suprised to see MVP get moved to RAW, as to keep with the tradition of plucking SD! top up and comers, and giving them fucking Candice Michelle or something stupid in return.
Cocktail Gherkin
05-27-2008, 04:13 PM
dude its time for a major wwe shake up
no one thought it was gonna happen in 2005 but they shook the roster
to its core and nows a perfect time for a major shake up and influx of new talent
Vince Mcmahon said its time for a shake up and he's right and i think its
coming both brands have got stale and Vince Mcmahon knows this
you can tell somethin has vince mcmahon shook up because the overall
product is getting better and i think he's gonna use the draft to shake it
up even more
The Moonsault
05-27-2008, 05:16 PM
I would like to see Jeff Hardy, Umaga and Chris Jericho jump to SD! And Matt Hardy, MVP and Rey Mysterio come to RAW. Along with the package, both the IC and US championship titles would switch brands as well. It wouldn't really be that huge of a difference, but it'll change things up a bit.
TheOneBigWill
05-27-2008, 11:17 PM
I typically try to stay away from thread like this, because its so difficult to find any positive or negative in anything. People have a general idea on who's going where, but we won't know until 4 weeks from now in San Antonio. So this is my general feeling on people going places.
John Cena: John Cena was the biggest move from Smackdown to Raw in 2005. That was 3 years ago, and he made the most of it by reigning atop that brand for practically the entire time he was there. I think its time for Cena to go back to his "roots" so to speak, and retrace his steps. With that said, I predict John Cena returning to Smackdown.
I think Smackdown would be the best place for Cena, and it makes perfect sense with the rumor of E.C.W. & Raw travelling together. If Smackdown is going to become a sole brand, then they are going to need a solid reason for people to come see them. The Undertaker is great, but by himself isn't enough. John Cena, alone, is enough for people to want to see the show. For better or worse, he still has his cult following.
Edge: Obviously if the above mentioned name takes a spot on the Blue Brand, then the top rated heel likely needs to get away from him or suffer never finding his way back to the top again. The funny thing about Edge is, he never officially should've been a Smackdown Superstar. He cashed in his MITB to defeat the Undertaker. Thats fine, but when he got injured he should've ended up back on Raw, because he was originally a Raw Superstar.
I think Edge needs a new change in where he hangs his hat. (so to speak) I see Edge making a return to Raw. The reason I think this would work best is because a Triple H. v. Edge feud is boiling, and seeing Edge against Shawn Michaels (again) isn't that bad of an option either.
Randy Orton: They could keep Orton on Raw, and move Edge over to reform Rated R.K.O.. or, they could move Randy Orton to Smackdown and allow him to rekindle his feud with the Undertaker.
I think Orton going to Smackdown, along with Cena and the remaining Undertaker would make for some tremendous old school feuds. (Not Cena/Orton, but instead Orton/Taker)
Rey Mysterio: He could be the big favorite who's currently on the Injured list to change brands. Hes also the first big name to take a "what the f*ck" type of move. A lot of people seen him going to Raw, but I think the W.W.E. can do a 180 and send him to E.C.W.
Honestly, this would be a great thing for two reasons. The first is, Raw & E.C.W. will begin travelling together soon enough (through what a rumor claims) and if thats the case, he'd still be on the Raw(ish) side of things. The other reason is because Mysterio deserves his Championship push, but he doesn't have what it truly takes to maintain the top spot on either of the main two brands. E.C.W. would be a perfect fit for him, as most of the Superstars on E.C.W. are cruiserweight size.
Umaga: There isn't a lot I can say, that hasn't already been said. Umaga going to Smackdown is what everyone is assuming, and likely what will end up happening just to give Umaga some small type of rebirth from being any type of monster, from the jobber he currently is.
Other Possibilities: While I'm not going to give proper reason for the following, I could see any of the following happening.
1. Super Crazy to E.C.W.
2. Trevor Murdoch to Smackdown
3. Kofi Kingston to Smackdown
4. John Morrison to Smackdown or Raw
5. Snitsky to E.C.W.
6. Mike Knox to Raw
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
05-27-2008, 11:26 PM
I typically try to stay away from thread like this, because its so difficult to find any positive or negative in anything. People have a general idea on who's going where, but we won't know until 4 weeks from now in San Antonio. So this is my general feeling on people going places.
John Cena: John Cena was the biggest move from Smackdown to Raw in 2005. That was 3 years ago, and he made the most of it by reigning atop that brand for practically the entire time he was there. I think its time for Cena to go back to his "roots" so to speak, and retrace his steps. With that said, I predict John Cena returning to Smackdown.
I think Smackdown would be the best place for Cena, and it makes perfect sense with the rumor of E.C.W. & Raw travelling together. If Smackdown is going to become a sole brand, then they are going to need a solid reason for people to come see them. The Undertaker is great, but by himself isn't enough. John Cena, alone, is enough for people to want to see the show. For better or worse, he still has his cult following.
Edge: Obviously if the above mentioned name takes a spot on the Blue Brand, then the top rated heel likely needs to get away from him or suffer never finding his way back to the top again. The funny thing about Edge is, he never officially should've been a Smackdown Superstar. He cashed in his MITB to defeat the Undertaker. Thats fine, but when he got injured he should've ended up back on Raw, because he was originally a Raw Superstar.
I think Edge needs a new change in where he hangs his hat. (so to speak) I see Edge making a return to Raw. The reason I think this would work best is because a Triple H. v. Edge feud is boiling, and seeing Edge against Shawn Michaels (again) isn't that bad of an option either.
Randy Orton: They could keep Orton on Raw, and move Edge over to reform Rated R.K.O.. or, they could move Randy Orton to Smackdown and allow him to rekindle his feud with the Undertaker.
I think Orton going to Smackdown, along with Cena and the remaining Undertaker would make for some tremendous old school feuds. (Not Cena/Orton, but instead Orton/Taker)
Rey Mysterio: He could be the big favorite who's currently on the Injured list to change brands. Hes also the first big name to take a "what the f*ck" type of move. A lot of people seen him going to Raw, but I think the W.W.E. can do a 180 and send him to E.C.W.
Honestly, this would be a great thing for two reasons. The first is, Raw & E.C.W. will begin travelling together soon enough (through what a rumor claims) and if thats the case, he'd still be on the Raw(ish) side of things. The other reason is because Mysterio deserves his Championship push, but he doesn't have what it truly takes to maintain the top spot on either of the main two brands. E.C.W. would be a perfect fit for him, as most of the Superstars on E.C.W. are cruiserweight size.
Umaga: There isn't a lot I can say, that hasn't already been said. Umaga going to Smackdown is what everyone is assuming, and likely what will end up happening just to give Umaga some small type of rebirth from being any type of monster, from the jobber he currently is.
Other Possibilities: While I'm not going to give proper reason for the following, I could see any of the following happening.
1. Super Crazy to E.C.W.
2. Trevor Murdoch to Smackdown
3. Kofi Kingston to Smackdown
4. John Morrison to Smackdown or Raw
5. Snitsky to E.C.W.
6. Mike Knox to Raw
Cena and Mysterio bring up good points. Cena is arguably the guy with the widest range in terms of bringing in outsiders to watch the product, and if they put him on the non-cable show, he might have another surge in popularity. I keep expecting Hardy to move over to Smackdown so he can have a test-run at the main event, but they may very well move Cena instead. I can't see both going over, though.
Mysterio...I totally forgot about him lol. But that makes perfect sense for him to move to ECW. He's exhausted all of the feuds on Smackdown, for the most part, and he'll never have a run with the WHC anymore. The only weird thing is that Kane is limited in the number of feuds that he can have without looking like he's jobbing for no reason, but the opposite goes for Mysterio. He's so small that he looks out of place for many challenges as well.
Rusty
05-28-2008, 06:45 AM
I'm really glad we are going to have a draft this year. Its exactly what the WWE needed. Anyways on with my predictions...
To Raw
Batista - because he has become very stale on Smackdown and desperately needs to go to Raw for fresh feuds.
Mark Henry - simply because he could be another "monster" on Raw and could also have fresh feuds if he was booked properly.
Finlay - to elevate the up and comers on Raw e.g Cody Rhodes, Ted Dibiase Jr etc.
Elijah Burke - the guy needs a push and needs to get away from ECW.
Kelly Kelly - I think shes ready to switch brands and it seems the obvious choice.
To Smackdown
I fully expect Smackdown to get some big names from this draft as they desperately need main eventers especially.
Umaga - The obvious choice and I will disappointed if it doesn't happen.
Shawn Michaels - I really want this move to happen more than any other. HBK on Smackdown would be great as he's just about faced everybody on Raw and a change would be great.
CM Punk - Mr Money in the Bank needs a new home and I am strongly against him going to Raw where he will easily be forgotten about. Smackdown is a perfect place for Punk in my opinion.
John Morrison - His time is now to shine bright and I really feel that if he goes to Smackdown, he can become a main event player.
Snitsky - A Heat regular, but on Smackdown he could easily become a mid carder and in the U.S title picture.
Maria - She has ran her course on Raw so they might as well move her to Smackdown!
To ECW
Paul Birchill - The best place is ECW for Birchill. I can easily see him as a future ECW champ if he moves.
Ashley - To replace the loss of Kelly Kelly if that were to happen.
Jimmy Wang Yang - He hasn't done anything on SD and could be useful to ECW if used right.
Rey Mysterio or the Big Show - I'm not so sure about this move but I am going to predict it anyway. I'd prefer if it was Mysterio but really what would he do on ECW?? The ECW title would sorta be a step back for him in my opinion. As with the Big Show.. well he could be useful to ECW but hes in a similar place to Rey, the ECW title would be a step down for him as I fully expect him to be World Heavyweight Champion sometime this year.
These are only some draft moves that I expect/want to happen. I am sure many others will be drafted.
hhh2k8
05-28-2008, 06:49 AM
Great thread idea here is what i would do
From Raw To ECW/SmackDown!
Shawn Michaels
I would put HBK over on SmackDown because on RAW he just keeps getting lost in the shuffle and realistically there is nothing for the man do on the show. By bringing him to S/D you can get fresh feuds and he maybe even could get one last title run before the end of his career which is unlikely to get on RAW wiliest you've got Cena and HHH on the block.
Chris Jericho
Like HBK Y2J has nothing left to do on RAW there is no one to feud with which is why i would like to see him to go to S/D and get put back into new feuds. The only thing with Chris Jericho is it would be tempting to give him the U.S title to keep his credibility but that idea is ok only if he has legitimate title defenses.
John Cena
Like people have said his trade from S/D to raw in 2005 was the biggest trade i would put him on ECW. Yeah I know it might sound crazy but i would have him on ECW and make that the show that little kids watch. The good thing is that with the talent exchange between S/D and ECW you could still have him on S/D to feud with their superstars
Mr. Kennedy
Send him to S/D give him a good run with the U.S title and some proper title defenses and before you know it he will be right back to the way he was before Wrestlemania 23 with a lot of steam for Main Event quality.
From S/D to ECW
Dave Batista
Like Cena you have got him on the kid show to be able to show off as much as he wants. Without really wrestling s good match this way you will probably get the main event for ECW at Summerslam Cena vs Batista. This for little kids will be a big attraction.
Deuce
I would send him to ECW give him his own gimmick away from the Greece reject and maybe have take on the likes of Dreamer and Miz to try get him to be able to be in the ECW title picture
Big Show
Give ECW another big Main Eventer to be in the main title picture
Mark Henry
Make Mark Henry be an big enforcer for someone on ECW to maybe feud with Chavo and Bam Nearly.
ECW to S/D
Cm Punk
Instead of making him waste his MITB on the ECW title bring him to s/d and let fight against the likes of the Undertaker, Michaels and Y2J. I’m pretty sure one of these guys will be prepared to put Cm Punk over.
John Morrision
Like Deuce give him his own personality and get him to upper mid card level on S/D
S/D to Raw
Edge
give him a chance to have a fresh feud on raw and maybe even a wwe title reign which would be a feud a gainst HHH or even Hardy
Matt Hardy
Spice up tag division on Raw by bringing back the hardy boys and maybe evn a I.C reign.
MVP
Nothing for the lad to do on SmackDown no fresh feuds whatsoever bring him to RAW and let him have good long feuds with people like Umaga which would be great for the I.C title
helix2301
05-28-2008, 07:38 AM
With ECW being tapped before Raw the feuds will get better because talent can jump between the 2 brands. Guys like punk/dreamer/kane can jump to Raw and Kennedy/Carlito/Y2J can jump to ecw. Draft will defiantly help out raw and more then anything else help ecw the show is going down hill. Please someone teach that guy how to announce. He stinks he cannot even hold a candle to Joey.
mcflyboy
05-28-2008, 03:15 PM
I think it's interesting that so many people have these lists of their predictions, and most of the folks on these lists are all the folks that get a lot of TV time. Let's face it, the drafts have a history of moving one or two big names for new feuds, and that's it. At least of the moves that matter.
I've also noticed that on these lists (at least those who explain their reasoning), it's assumed that a brand switch also seems to imply a push for whoever is being traded. However, also looking at history, unless you're a big name that is being traded, usually whoever moves to another show gets either buried or overall the trade doesn't really matter. supercrazy to raw? snitsky to ecw? london and kendrick to raw? these are just a few examples and there are plenty more, but nothing changed for any of them. they didn't get more TV time (in fact, i'd argue they got less), and their trade was not accompanied by a push.
However, this is all based on history and things could change this time. And I mean no disrespect to anyone with their list...there are some good ideas in there. But you also have to keep in mind that if you move a ton of top names all at once, you don't really change much, as those they could have had a new feud on the show also got traded.
So I might be wrong, but historically, I just don't see anything important coming from the draft outside of a trade of one or two top names (probably each show will get/give up one decent high carder and one midcarder) just to shake things up a little bit, accompanied by a few other trades that will in the end be irrelevant.
joet1102
05-28-2008, 11:58 PM
My Main Predictions.....
Drafted to RAW
MVP
CM Punk
Both these guys are made for RAW. Spicing up the "A" Brand with the two best upcomers from ECW and Smackdown.
Drafted to Smackdown
John Cena
Umaga
To me Cena is getting played out on RAW. His current feud with JBL sucks and I think its time to reignite his character. Only way to do this is to ship him off to Smackdown and compete with the likes of The Undertaker/Batista/Edge/Big Show. I feel the same way about Umaga as well.
Drafted to ECW
Jeff Hardy
Carlito
Jeff Hardy, ECW Champ? Sounds good to me! If I was the WWE I wouldn't trust him enough to hold the WWE Heavyweight or World Championship with his past problems. But making the most money I can get outta him, I'll give him the ECW World Title. I think Jeff would be a great asset to ECW and really strive in his own element wrestling younger guys who can compete at a fast paced level like him. As for Carlito. Well again it looks like Carlito is under the radar and needs to make a serious push for a main event spot and fast. I see him wrestling with ECW's younger guys, looking a whole much better than he currently does on RAW.
I'm also hoping that the developmental territory gets involved in this somehow. I'd like to see a guy like Colt Cabana get "drafted". With people questioning who this guy is, we can go to the draft experts and tell us some info about him.
"Draft Analyst" Joey Styles: Colt Cabana is a ___ year veteran. Who made his mark in the indepent wrestling scene. There he became close friends with The Straightedge Superstar" CM Punk. Blah blah blah
You get my drift.
darksideon
05-30-2008, 01:52 AM
Ok i've heard that vince won't end the brand extension because it makes too much money, but i wonder if they made more money back in 98-01 when everyone was together. Secondly the line about the brand extension being a good idea because "it gives people who normally wouldn't be seen a chance to get seen" has gotten old because i'm still seeing the same people i would have seen if everyone was on the same show. In my opinon the draft should have ended a long time ago because common sense would tell you that if you split the roster up you dillute the overall product but vince will never end it because it was his idea and he doesn't want to admit he made a mistake.:flair:
Canadian Knight
05-30-2008, 08:09 AM
It is about time. However what they should do is allow 'trades' because then you can spice up the WWE during the year without the Draft. What angers me is that they killed up the tag team division (also the World's Greatest Tag Team (or whatever they called themselves). what they should do is trade tag teams. and keep champions where they are.
As for predictions: Jericho to Smackdown and Dare I say (yes dare!) HHH goes to Smackdown with Edge to Raw. Yeah I know I am dreaming but hey a man can dream.
Big Daddy Fool
05-30-2008, 11:15 PM
its bothering me that people want the hardyz to reunite. it is time from them to be strictly singles wrestlers. theyre both being pushed pretty big as such so why make them regress and have another hardy reunion. i dont think matt or jeff want to reunite anyways judging by their recent dvd. we had the hardyz reunite last year and its time to try and make new tag team stars and let the hardyz go out on there own
wlannon
06-02-2008, 04:52 AM
I've read a few of these posts where people are saying Jeff Hardy and Umaga should be traded to smackdown. but i cant see both of them going to smackdown, then they would probably just continue their feud thats going now. so here is what i think would be best:
To smackdown:
Jeff Hardy- more feuds are available for him over there. can feud with Edge and MVP to start with. Might be a bigger draw for the new network this fall.
CM Punk- not going to stay on ECW if he is going to be taken seriously as the mitb holder
Carlito-probably still not happy over the way he is being used. could be sent to smackdown to have a shot at the US title, or possibly bring his brother up from developmental and form a tag-team.
Kelly Kelly-could be used as a manager for someone, or possibly wrestle the smackdown diva's since she has some skill and can improve.
To ECW:
Umaga- would be reunited with armando, could feud with Kane, Big Show and destroy the rest of the roster to re-establish him as the monster he was before moving him to smackdown when the undertaker comes back.
Super Crazy-ECW needs another jobber for Umaga lol
Kenny Dykstra- not being used on smackdown, talented, could be used for mid card feud on ECW
Charlier Haas-with heat coming to an end, what else is there for him, besides the inevitable, "We wish Charlie Hass the best in all his future endeavors" line on wwe.com?
Lance Cade-could be sent there as a test to how well he would do as a singles competitor before being moved to raw/smackdown.
To Raw:
Batista-could start a new feud with Jericho, Orton, JBL, Cena or continue the current one with HBK, start another one with Trips
Rey Mysterio-been on smackdown since he debuted, could have some good matches with Jericho, HBK, Kennedy and Orton
John Morrison-since Kennedy is a face now, i would like to see him and Morrison in a feud for a little bit. Could be some good matches if done right.
Michelle McCool-would be someone different in the women's title division, and could possibly have a good match with Beth Phoenix(not sure about, but just a guess)
Probably wrong on 90% of these, but they are just some guesses.
Dudley-Boy
06-02-2008, 09:31 PM
To RAW:
CM Punk- come on lets face it, we all knew when he won the ladder match he wasnt gonna use it on the ECW Championship
Rey Mysterio- Been on SD! since around 2001, time for a change
The Great Khali- Lets face it, he cant stay on a brand for more then a year
To SD!
Snitsky- Never been on SD!, needs new compotion
DH Smith- Needs to be on the B show to make a name for himself
Big Daddy V- Useless on ECW
Umaga- Already announced he's moving there, so
To ECW:
Charlie Haas- Since Heat is gone needs a place where he can have a match
Deuce- Try out singles compotition(new look or old one) send Domino to FCW
Big Show- It would be stupid to have the ECW Champion on SD!
Super Crazy-Has no use on RAW
Tag Teams
Shelton Benjamin & K-Kwik(To RAW)
Crime Time(To SD!)
Shannon Moore & Jimmy Yang(To ECW)
London & Kendrick(To ECW)
:sabu2: :robvandam: Bring ECW Originals Back!!!!
FOTH 3:16
06-03-2008, 01:49 AM
Here is what I think should be done.
To SD:
Triple H-Come on we all know it needs to happen.WWE championship back on SD sounds good for me.And Triple H on SD sounds even better!
Kane-Turn Kane heel,have him feud with Triple H for the WWE Title.Or bring the Undertaker back and have the Brothers of Destruction reunite.But has to drop ECW title though.
Ted DiBiase Jr.-Send him to the B show and let us see what he has.
Jeff Hardy-He is not yet World Title material,but I can just see Jeff Hardy vs. Zack Ryder or Curt Hawkins.
To ECW:
Mr. Kennedy-Kennedy face,Morrison heel.It can work.Two great microphone personalities and talented wrestlers going at it every Tuesday Night.
Chris Jericho-Jericho vs. Punk or Dreamer or Stevie as a heel.Jericho vs. Knox,Chavo,or Striker as a face.It would work.
Val Venis-Give him a good environment to put on good matches.
To Raw:
Elijah Burke-Lets put this talented young man in the World Title spotlight.
MVP-Same as Elijah Burke
Matt Hardy-Same as the above.
Edge-WWE title to SD and World Title to Raw
psykohurricane
06-03-2008, 08:22 AM
The first thing that i think might happen is the Hardy'S might change brands. I'm seeing Jeff Going to ECW to feud with whoever is the ECW Champ will i see MAtt going back to raw wit hthe U.S. Belt. I think it'S time for Matt to return to raw since he's one of the best wrestler in the company and having i'm work on the A show with some of the bigger stars in the company would help in get the reconition that he should have had a couple of years back.
Next would be Chris Jericho going to smackdown and that simply because since smackdown doesn'T have a secondary champion after Matt hardy get drafted to Raw, they would have to bring the i.c. title to smackdown and anyway, i think it would give jericho a chance to be the main eventer that he is supposed to be.
Here some more prediction that i hope would come true
1. Shawn Micheals to Smackdown: With Undertaker gone, i think smackdown need a legend on their roster and since Shawn as pretty done everything he could possibly do on Raw, why not move him to smackdown where he could feud with guys like Edge and Rey mysterio.
2. Ashley, Maria and Jillian to Smackdown and Victoria, Natalya and Michelle Mccool on raw: The reason behind would just be so that all the wrestlers would be on raw will the cover models would be on Smackdown. With that switch we could have great woman matches on raw and you could do t&a stuff on smackdown.
3. Every Heat regulars get move to ECW before getting fired: Let's face it, with Heat gone, there is a lot of wrestler on Raw that don'T have anything to do anymore and this is the period of the year were the WWE start letting people go. So why not give some of them a chance to show what they are capable to do before letting them go. Guys like Super Crazy and Charlie Haas would be perfect fit for ECW.
4. How about sent Paul London and Brian Kendrick back to smackdown. When they were WWE Tag team Champions on smackdown, they were one of the most popular thing going on smackdown and having them feud with The Miz and John Morrison would give some awesome tag team matches.
5. Finally, this is a long shot but how about sending Vickie Guerrero on Raw. First of all, Raw need a General Manager and Vickie is one of the hottest heel in the company right now but the edge/vickie storyline is starting to be played out so with this change we could start a whole new storyline for vickie on Raw and while starting something new for Edge on smackdown.
simpsons_fanatic742
06-03-2008, 05:18 PM
This should hopefully be a good draft and bring up some new, interesting fueds. My predictions...
To Smackdown!:
Chris Jericho - He can be in the ME picture and I think would make a great fued with Edge.
Umaga - It has been hinted at and when Undertaker comes back they will fued(maybe for the title)
Jillian - wildcard I guess
To RAW:
MVP - The talks about not getting respect I think leads to getting drafted to RAW. He can enter the ME picture in the same situation as Jericho on SD!
Elijah Burke - He can go right into the mid-card scene and battle for the IC Title and work his way up into the ME scene.
Natalya or Victoria(most likely Natalya) - another good woman wrestler to compete for the belt and stir up new matches/fueds.
To ECW:
Lance Cade - work him out in ECW and see how he works in singles matches
Kenny Dykstra - same as Cade, let's see what he can really do
Ashley - another wildcard guess
badboyman
06-04-2008, 02:19 PM
The problem with smackdown is that all the wrestlers have to much of a speciality. Undertaker never gives up never loses. Batista the Animal STRONG. Edge oportunist. Khali big overgrown guy.
Unlike raw where the top wrestlers lose to everyone except HHH (BOOooo)
ECW has to many smackdown tag team rejects so.
I would say for the draft
TO RAW: MVP - Losing his Meaning at smackdown will fit in nicely agaisnt somebody like kennedy feduing for the IC could get a push in the future for the title.
Kofi Kingston - This guy has real talent and its not being recognised as ECW is barely watched. Very atheletic maybe establish himself as a high flyer feuding with carlito.
Jimmy Wang Yang - Seriosuly being wasted just a tag team jobber to be honest a nice contender for the IC
Not Edge would just spoil raw with his fake wrestling skills and the interference
Big Show - ECW please hes to big for that show should go to raw #
Maybe batista but could seem him spoiling pushes destined for hardy,kennedy, carlito?(future)
To ECW:
Chuck Palumbo - Former WCW big guy could be pushed to feud for the ECW title
Shannon Moore - Has potential maybe needs to be put in ECW have a good feud
Dykstra - Not even used very good wrestler but its his attitude they say however could shine in ECW given the right push.
Kendrick - Ecw once again maybe given a new tag partner i think his partner could push for the cruiserweight when it comes back into action when gregory helms comes back ( The Hurricane please come back)
Snitsky - Needs to get off raw never used could really dominate in ECW whenever he wrestler some mid card or higher card hardy,hhh,michaels he just loses
To Smackdown:
y2j- This guy was the undisputed champion just wasting him and his popularity would help smackdown also make him a heel.
Carlito - If he has to go make it to smackdown can easily feud with matt hard, is not making an impression with marella altough it is quite funny :icon_smile:
Elijah Burke ive decided on smackdown although maybe raw. He could be in between the two until something comes up. Anyway talent being wasted once again.
Theres umaga but we all know hes going to smackdown good draft that is.
Anyway i reckon khali has to go out of wwe or just be a jobber he can't wrestle standard as
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-05-2008, 04:01 PM
I think Umaga will switch to SD! and battle for the WHC
Batista will switch to RAW and reunite Evolution w/ Orton and feud with DX
The Draft will some how bring back Taker
Miz&Morrison should move to SD! if they are going to be WWE tag champs they should be on SD!
Big Show to ECW i imagine Kane vs Big Show being a long term thing
Mr. Kennedy, Kennedy should go extreme
Jeff Hardy to SD! smackdown needs more tag teams so the Hardys would be perfect for SD!
MVP to RAW
The Burchills to ECW
CM PUNK to RAW
Burke to SD!
Chavo and Bam Neely to SD!
Palumbo to ECW
Big Daddy V to RAW
Khali to RAW
Wait...why would you want to demote Hardy back to a tag team, send Kennedy over to the place that has no room for huge stars to grow, get Katie Lea out of the women's division, put two of the biggest and sloppiest monsters on Raw, and waste a lot of drafts from Smackdown/ECW when they already have a talent exchange as it is? Last year's draft didn't have the talent exchange, but there's no point in switching like, Palumbo to ECW if he can wrestle on there at any time and you can use that draft pick to switch someone from Raw. Chavo, Neely, Palumbo, Burke, Punk, Big Show, Miz, and Morrison...that's 8 drafts that don't really move the guys anywhere from where they currently are. The draft is the WWE's chance to mix things up and provide for a better product, so to do so, you need to make matches applicable that weren't really before. For instance, if Cody Rhodes turns heel soon, then Raw is only going to have Jericho and Kennedy for a face midcard, so they could really use someone like Kofi Kingston to balance things out. There would be no point in drafting say, Jamie Noble, over to ECW if he can wrestle on there at any time as it is, know what I mean?
Mr.Grevas
06-07-2008, 04:18 AM
The Undertaker most likely won't return until after the draft, but I'm guessing he jumps to Raw anyway.As far as the draft goes, HBK would be a great edition to Smackdown as would Umaga. MVP should make the jump to Raw. Send Finley to ECW where he can contend for the title. Its time for CM Punk to join Smackdown and Batista could go Raw. Carlito would be great in ECW and Morrison and the Miz would shake things up on Raw. ECW should also get Mark Henry and have him team with V with Stryker as their manager.
massey27
06-07-2008, 04:43 AM
I'd like to see some of the young up and comers from ECW leave and the young unused talent from Raw shine in ECW.
Burke, Benjamin, Kofi Kingston and CM Punk to go to either Smackdown or Raw
DH Smith, Carlito, Trevor Murdoch, Charlie Haas and maybe a few from Smackdown. Jamie Noble, Chuck Palumbo, Finlay.
A couple of big switches also. I would love to see Edge back on Raw, he can spice things up on that show, he is a great heel. I would also like to see how HBK and Jericho would do on Raw, Jericho and MVP could have some good matches. Maybe when The Undertaker returns him and HBK can rekindle a good rivalry, both great entertainers.
Golden Standard
06-09-2008, 01:43 PM
This years draft needs to have SD and ECW getting the same equal of star talent as raw gets. I would love to see Taker going over to Raw and HHH coming over to Smackdown. And a Taker/HBK feud would be awesome we haven't seen them two feud since the late 90s. Edge i would like for him to go voer to ECW so they can have some start power on the brand to give them some credibility on the show.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-09-2008, 11:28 PM
i think that Edge and Matt Hardy gonna go to raw and Triple H and Jericho will go to Smackdown
What would be the point of that? The titles wouldn't switch. The new rule seems to be that if you're drafted, you lose your title. You'd just effectively end 4 title reigns without having any real defenses (outside of HHH's).
After tonight's heel turn for Jericho, I have to wonder...wtf is WWE thinking? There are far too many heels, especially if they're considering turning Cody Rhodes, CM Punk, and Triple H heel very soon. So while beforehand, I thought it was a lock that Jericho and/or Hardy would move over to Smackdown, just to give them one or two faces in their title scene (in exchange for possibly Batista)...I have NO clue what's going on now. Let's hope the WWE does, and that their end-goal is good (ie, I don't feel like seeing Hornswoggle as a freaking champion.)
I hate the brandsplit, but it looks like the draft is happening despite my oh so powerful protestations.
It looks like Cena, Hardy, JBL, and HHH are being kept on Raw. Perhaps JBL could be moved, but it looks like the other three are being kept together. Maybe if Raw picks first and takes HHH, SD! would take Cena second, but they need to keep their champ, and GM's boyfriend, so they'll likely take Edge. That would give Raw Cena with the next real pick, so expect the Batista or Undertaker swerve here. The plan is for Taker to resume with Edge after a little injury time, so Taker and Edge are staying on Smackdown.
Using that as a jumping off point, you move Matt Hardy or a heel Batista to Raw. Assuming it's Batista, you need to take one badass monster from Raw, so Umaga goes to Smackdown!. Since ECW is going to be touring with Raw now, you need to replace Punk, Morrison, and Miz. Therefore, Y2J, CM Punk (Draft), and Shelton get drafted by SD!.
A coupoe of guys (MVP, Umaga?) are going to have to get put into top card scenarios with the injuries, retirements, and lack of established roles. It looks like Summerslam HHH will be putting Hardy over just in time for Orton to come back, but there appears to be no direction on SD!. Edge beats Batista until taker comes back? It just seems like Cena moving to SD! is a step that needs to come.
Raw is OVERLOADED with talent so they need to even up the brands a little more with Cena becoming a heel again and going to SD! ECW needs veterans and have Hardcore Holly turn heel on Rhodes and go to ECW. Raw could get MVP and Deuce and Domino w/ Malyse and MVP feuding with Jericho. Micheals could have a feud against Batista while Taker is is vacationing and and Cena w/ Matt Hardy over the U.S Championship. ECW could trade Shelton for Umaga and trade Carlito for Elijah. ECW also needs to bring back the Crusiserweight titles,the ECW Tag Titles, and the (my favorite) ECW Television Championship and have Carlito and Striker to feud over that.
Instant Classic
06-11-2008, 07:45 PM
I feel the draft cannot come soon enough for the WWE. On Raw they have HHH who most people will agree is not the most exciting champion to start off with and he's feuding with Cena. A guy who he has already had a lengthy feud with not that long ago, though a don't actualy have a problem with the idea of a feud except that, neither of them are heels, and there is no storyline behind it. It is just a 'I want the belt' feud. These are ok in moderation but this is all WWE seems to do now, they should at least build some story around it. This is one of the reasons for their poor ratings IMO. Then they have great wrestlers on both shows (Umaga and MVP) tho have no-one to fight because all feuds have been exhausted, I mean does creative even do anything anymore?! Hopefully Edge will get some new feuds as I am really enjoying the La familia faction. While the draft will help freshen raw up I think its not really a case of not having the wrestlers as they have a ton of talent its just they arent using it, and are not creating many new or different or even any storylines whatsoever in the most part.
I want the belt is a perfect reason for a title feud. They need to give motivation for the other feuds. Kofi and Shelton has no story except you beat me, i don't like that. Rhodes and Holly have no feud. The IC belt is a prop. Jeff hardy is going over both the champ and number one contender. These are the issues the draft is supposed to solve. Ummm, I don't see it. Ending the brand split would solve them all. 10 guys at the top, 20 IC level, the rest just filler. PPV's main events used to be a title match and then Macho vs. Warrior. Now PPV main events are the same two title matches over and over and over again and HBK in a nonsensical and/or nonbrandspecific match.
Crimson Bonez
06-11-2008, 11:40 PM
i say this, last times draft raw pretty much the better picsand i think y2j should got smackdown and matt to raw then the us title be on raw and the IC on smackdown the only 1 that lost his title during the draft was lashley and that was cause the was the WWECW champ and what would that look like the WWECW champ on the Raw roster, but puting matt and jeff on tthe same roster dont mean they reform the hardys they already dominated the tag team and putting them back their will just hold them back you dont want them being like the dudleys competing in tag teams their entire career in the wwe title pic you have 3 faces fueding tirple h john cena and jeff cant have a good fued with all faces, and for the smackdown world title its ben edge, batista and taker for what 2 yrs now? now as for the draft i say this.....
Smackdown gets:
Shelton benjamin
John cena (becomes old heel agin/STAYS OUT OF WORLD TITLE PIC FOR A WHILE)
shawn micheals (becomes heel)
Y2J (take IC title with him)
crime tyme
ron killings
Ecw gets:
Hardcore holly (heel ecw title competitor)
Carlito (ecw title competitor)
paul london (start career in singles)
chris harris
d-lo brown
Raw Gets:
elijah burke (US title compeditor AS LONG AS NO LONGER JOBBER)
MVP
Matt hardy (takes US title with him)
Deuce (start singles career)
victoria (ditches the "clueless" gimmic and becomes the dominant woman agin fueding with beth)
batista i guess (gotta get some kinda "maineventer" in the draft)
cm punk (im already pretty sure that hell be going there)
now with this line up the fueds on smackdown will have different ppl in the world title pic edge vs hbk shelton benjamin eventually in the main event with y2j, john cena in the mid card IC title pic with ron killings big show finlay
over on ECW, morrison carlito kingston holly dreamer ecw title pic, d-lo brown and the miz maybe or knox in a fued, london vs chavo
and on raw main eventers triple h kennedy jeff hardy batista ...mvp maybe, mid carders/US title comp. matt elijah burke cm punk lance cade (jbl becomes his man.)
i had it more organised in my head but this is somewhat of what i think the draft should be like
Y 2 Jake
06-14-2008, 06:27 AM
To Smackdown:
For Certain:
Jeff Hardy: He's super over. He's unreliable. That's two reasons to push him. HHH buried him on Raw this week. He'd never lose the title to him anyway. Send him to Smackdown, Edge is more of the type of champion you'd allow Jeff to win a title from. Not one of those superhuman champions, with the large physiques. This is my one sure bet move. I'd be really surprised if this didn't happen.
Umaga: Well, Jeff needs an impressive person to defeat when he does become champion. They have chemistry. I also think the majority want to see him vs. Taker.
Santino Marella: He's over. But there's no real room for him on Raw. That's where the big boys play. But his comedy routine would have plenty of time on Smackdown.
Ken Kennedy: It was a pointless move last year. it didn't work out for him. They'll need to build him up again. Efge will also need a new challenger.
Me Thinks:
Trevor Murdock, Cryme Tyme, Shelton Benjamin, Elijah Burke & Carlito.
To Raw:
For Certain:
Batista: His feud with HHH got him over 3 years ago. If it wasn't for The Game he'd be nothing, nothing I say. Triple H needs to get his win back.
C.M. Punk: He's been on ECW for two years, he wrestles frequently on Smackdown anyway. He'll be moving. It's just a question of where.
Finlay: There's nothing left for him to do on Smackdown. There is plenty of potential for Raw. Also a possible ECW move.
Mark Henry: Cena needs big opponents. I just don't see him getting the title for a while. Lifting heavy people also gets a reaction for you, a positive one too. Which Cena will need if he's not got a title.
Me Thinks:
Rey Mysterio, Tommy Dreamer, Jesse & Festus.
To ECW:
For Certain:
Nobody really. At a guess I'm going for a possible Finlay & Mark Henry. Maybe Khali & Palumbo. But I'm not sure about any.
Mighty NorCal
06-14-2008, 02:26 PM
You know, I couldnt see any Major stars (Hardy) being moved becuase of RAW's laborious ratings, but A Hardy for Batista swap is feasable. I think there would be nothing but delight from fans if Batista swapped, and we ended up with Hardy Vs Edge for the belt. We could also get Matt and Jeff teaming on SD! again. On another idea, they could simply have Edge Vs Batista still, and say "that if Batista wins, he takes the WHC with im to RAW" all but assuring the match's outcome, but its not as if anyone expects Batista to win anyhow.
All this, in a perfect world. What do I see happening???...RAW totally guts anything remotely resmbling stars from ECW and SD! becuase of the bad ratings. If all that everyone says about Trips is true, he and Vince wont accept that its becuase of him that the ratings are terrible. Itll be "everyone else". So therefore throw stars at the show. Everybody. Make the other two shows easily recognizable minor leagues. MVP, CM Punk, MIz, Morrison, the whole lot of them. It could be a very sad day for WWE on Monday.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-14-2008, 03:33 PM
Next to last predictions (as I'll definitely do one before the 23rd):
TO RAW
1. Batista - Balances out losing Jeff Hardy. He has nothing on Smackdown. They'd sure as hell want him to feud with Triple H and Cena, even though it'll be boring to me.
2. Elijah Burke - Balances out losing Carlito. Intercontinental or tag team divisions. This is, unless, they plan on pushing D.H. Smith on Raw. Then Burke would still have nowhere to go and should go to Smackdown.
TO SMACKDOWN
1. Jeff Hardy - Balances out losing Batista. As stated before, this is the perfect spot for him to have fresh feuds and win the WHC.
2. Carlito - Balances out losing Elijah Burke. US title division.
3. Umaga - I'm a little worried about this guy, now. I don't want Khali or Mark Henry over on Raw lol. Maybe if they turn Triple H or Batista heel, it'll cover up for him and they won't need Big Daddy V on Raw or anything.
4. John Morrison & The Miz - I think they'll classify them as Smackdown stars due to being the champions, maybe not necessarily wasting two draft choices on them as its not needed while they're holding Smackdown's belts.
TO ECW
1. Lance Cade - He won't go anywhere on Raw if they want to move him up. Of course, he won't go anywhere on Smackdown or ECW either, I feel, but this is his best chance.
*Wildcards:
1. CM Punk - I can't see him moving to Raw anymore, now that Kennedy's being pushed into the midcard scene and it seems likely that Batista will be drafted. Punk would be better suited to go to Smackdown.
2. Finlay - If they had him stop doing the "comedy that isn't funny" shit, he could easily fit in at the top of ECW or for US title contention on Smackdown.
Danmen001
06-14-2008, 09:56 PM
These are my picks and predictions a few weeks before the draft.
To Smackdown
Umaga - We all know it is going to happen, it has basically been cemented in stone. On SD! Umaga can fued with the Undertaker, as well as Rey Mysterio.
Jeff Hardy - Seems like something they would do. It would be more likely and easier to get Jeff higher on the SD! roster than the Raw one whihc has too many ME'ers.
Shawn Michaels - I am not sure this will happen, but I hope so. HBK would be higher up on the roster on SD!, and he could have one last great fued with the Undertaker.
Carlito - He wants it so happen, it will because he has nothing on Raw.
To Raw
Batista - I think they may do this to even it out. Batista has been on SD! long enough already, but my major doubt with this is that I assume the Undertaker will come back on Raw. And they won't want Batista and Undertaker on the same brand.
CM Punk - If they are planning to push him, that is where he will be going most likely.
Elijah - They were thinking about it, and it may happen to bring in more African American veiwers as they were thinking.
To ECW
Not sure I care, but anyway. I am not sure exactly, because no one really wants to go to ECW.
Chuck Palumbo - He is dying on SD! How many matches has he been embarrassed by a midget now? Going to ECW will give him some even competition.
That's all I can think of really now.
joshdillow77
06-15-2008, 10:54 PM
Predictions for 2008 Draft
To Smackdown
John Cena: Just like his draft to Raw in 2005 i believe this will be the "oh hell" draft pick of the year. Since his injury he has been put on the backburner by Randy Orton and since HHH has the WWE championship I see Cena being a challeneger and no a champion. Placing him on Smackdown could star new fueds or even re-ignite his fued wih Edge and make him and eligible contender for the World title...i just hope they don't put a spinner on that one...lol
Chris Jericho: I believe his fued with HBK will end at Night of Champions and the WWE will star him "semi" fresh on Smackdown immediatly putting him in a title hunt of some sorts
Umaga: This has been rumored off and on for awhile but i see this defnitly happening, I mean they teamed him with Snitsky for gods sake
To Raw
MVP: This is a personal pick for me just because I would love to see him on Raw n a normal basis...I believe he has too much charisma for Smackdown and would make a suitable opponent for someone such as Kennedy
Matt Hardy: Hardy enjoyed a mediocre run when he fueded with Edge before he sent him packin to Friday nights....Matt is WAY over with the fans and i think WWE may want him to help boost ratings because of his popularity and ability to get the underdog mentality to stay fresh
To ECW
I'll make this one breif but i see Cade and Carlito both going to ECW....Carlito, im my opinion, would be a prefect canidate for ECW world champion and would give WWE the oppurtunity to finally utilize his talents without risking ruining a main-eventer on the process
To Smackdown!:
John Cena: Raw needs this to happen.With all the talent on RAw they need to even it out, A LOT.
Umaga:He's not going to win over HHH ever so why not bring a super heavyweight over to Smackdown! and comepete for the World Heavyweight Championship?
Elijah Burke:He has so much talent and ECW has used him as a jobber ever since losing to the Originals at WM23....WTF?!
Shelton Benjiman:This guy has been Underrated 3 years runningaccording to Wrestling Observer News.If WWE doesnt do something with him soon he could up and quit to TNA.
Santino Marella:This guy is funny as hell!Addinf him to SD! will definantly bring some laughs to viewers.Santino also has nothing left to do on Raw with the main mid-card being Kennedy vs. Burchill right now i see him getting no spotlight anytime soon.
To ECW:
Hardcore Holly:If he's "Hardcore" why doesn't he show it once in a while.
Lance Cade:He's a future World Champion,haven't seen much of his mic work but great talent and young.
Paul London and Brian Kendrick: ECW's tag team division needs to freshen up and get 2 great competiters to compete for the Tag Titles on SD!and ECW.
Paul Burchill: Another superstar w/ great talent and very young.He might be a future main eventer if he feuds with Lance Cade and brings back the C4.
To RAW:
John Moorison:Already Main mid-card worthy,he will be a future Main Eventer if he goes to raw again.
C.M Punk:Do I really need to explain this one?
Kofi Kingston:He's really getting over with the fans,bring him to raw and you have yourself a stable mid-carder.
Finlay w/ Hornswoggle:A lot of people think their comedy wrestling isn't funny but I actually think it is.Bring Finlay and the little bastard over to Raw,you got yourself a comedy block w/ Carlito.
Some other wrestler who i think should be pushed on their respective brand are Cryme Tyme and Kein Thron.Carlito on top of anything should be traded to SD! and win the U.S Title again.
aceman
06-17-2008, 12:08 AM
Im attending the draft this monday and i think smackdown and ecw need way more attention.When vince bought ecw he has the rights to do whatever he want with it but hello ECW its more like EBW " Extremely Boring Wrestling" Where are the extreme rules matches wheres the hardcore style not this new stuff Joey Styles should come back. Mike A. sucks at commentating. ECW needs major inprovements. It needs better superstars and more ECW life style. Smackdown is basically talk. Where is the action. Edge and batista is boring and Smackdown is more of a family fued show. La Familia vs Batista and Undertaker. I think John Cena should be drafted to Smackdown and win the WWE Title. Take the title to Smackdown and stay there. Batista wins world title comes to raw and fueds with Triple H. Hunter regains the title later that year. Shawn Michaels stays on Raw and wins Intercontinental Title from Jericho. they fued until The Great American Bash. But the WWE is the best and if they want to keep the level that there at the Draft better make some good choices:sabu2::undertaker2:
Chaze2k1
06-17-2008, 09:20 AM
Raw Draft:
Batista should go to Raw and become the over hyped face that he is, then eventually feuding with HHH.
CM Punk take the MITB case with him and eventually give him a run with the IC title before cashing in the case. Was a rumor that he would be apart of the new Generation stable.
Mark Henry if you are going to lose Umaga then you have to fill that hole with someone big and bad..lol
Smackdown draft
John Cena he needs to go to SD! and give them some star power and hopefully jump ratings.
Umaga gives SD! a monster and future feud with Undertaker
Carlito just to get him away from the politics of Raw.
ECW Draft
Basically any mid-card wrestler could go here, but I think this a chance for ECW to debut some guys from FCW like Cabana, Afa Jr. or even Chris Harris and Ron Killings.
Little Jerry Lawler
06-17-2008, 10:58 AM
I been thinking of possibilites about who would go where for the past month and here it goes.
John Cena, Umaga, and Jericho should go to Smackdown while Batista, MVP, and Finlay go to RAW
Smackdown would be instantly better with feuds like Cena v. Edge, Umaga v. Batista, Umaga v. Taker, and Jericho v. Matt Hardy
RAW wouldn't be hurt because they had the majority of the main talent....I would love to see a MVP v. HHH or HBK feud.....I hope MVP especially doesn't get shifted to the midcard and fades away like other superstars that went from Smackdown to RAW
When Carlito moved to RAW he won the IC Title....Hasn't done much since
Kennedy- Took him a while to regain main-event status albeit the suspension
King Booker- Was the top heel on Smackdown....Don't remember him winning one match on RAW
The draft last year was plain awful......I think Kennedy, Khali and Snitsky are the only superstars that arestill in the WWE since....You had Bobby Lashley, King Booker, Chris Benoit, Boogeyman, Chris Masters, Torrie Wilson, Ric Flair...
Hopefully Million Dollar Mania doesn't ruin it....
mcflyboy
06-17-2008, 12:26 PM
I was thinking about the draft, and I think it was 2 drafts ago (the one where they announced only one different draftee every week for a month). In this one, Cena was the smackdown champion and batista was the Raw. And they both switched shows, taking their titles with them.
Now we're in kind of the opposite side. What if Cena and Batista once again both win titles and night of champions, and switch shows, taking their titles with them?
I doubt this would happen though, because 1. It would seem probably too contrived; and 2. No way is HHH going to lose the title right now to Cena. So while it won't likely happen, it would be an interesting angle as something similar happened two years ago, and HHH is more interesting to watch when he's after the title than just defending.
healyz84
06-17-2008, 04:14 PM
I don't know if this was posted before, because quite frankly I didn't want to read through 16 pages of people going over who they want on what show. But anyways of course I am always at the lead when it comes to ending the brand extension and putting all the wrestlers on the same show, eliminating ecw, and just having raw/smackdown. It would probably be the best way to boost ratings because you will always have fresh rivalry's. And there will not be a problem with the shows not utilizing the midcard talent or new talent because seriously, they don't utilitze them anyways. But of course... this will never happen. Its all about the house shows, i suppose. So since this will not happen, here is what I propose.
The draft next week on raw should go back to its roots. Vince should come out right at the start of raw, say he is taking every wrestler off of their respected roster, put them in a pool, and then have a 3 way draft of all of the wwe superstars. This will be the best way to gain suspense, as anyone could go anywhere. A coin flip or rps could decide who drafts first, and each gm gets to draft 10-15 people(12 could be a good number). At the end of the show, the remaining superstars are chosen and the results are put on wwe.com. Then for the rest of the week, trades could be made, and the rosters will be finalized on the june 30th edition of raw. In this way, the NOC matches could go on as they are, and depending on the results of these matches, trades can be made to fix certain things(ie if 2 champions end up on 1 show). In this way, all 3 shows will get a good number of wrestlers, while the trades in a way will help build up the A show, with a big name wrestler being traded back to raw for a number of smaller wrestlers. Also this will allow for and endless amount of new combinations for the 3 shows, so you will definitely have new rivalries and what not.
Mighty NorCal
06-17-2008, 04:30 PM
Draft MVP to ECW. seriously.
Act like he is doing anything remotely usefull on SD! right now?? yea. No he isnt. I would rather them have a fan favorite face champ, to put over the young ECW heel talent, but they refuse to even think of going down that road. So fuck it. MVP owning that show, and that belt every week wouldnt make it more entertaining?? Bullshit it wouldnt. He has the mic skills and charisma to carry the role off, im positive. He is going nowere on SD! especially with Edge as champ for the forseeable future (unless some insane things happen over the next two weeks). So fuck it. Utilize the guy. MVP for ECW champ.
oddone
06-17-2008, 05:04 PM
i agree with mvp to ecw.
if wwe wants to use ecw as a televised farm league, then they should push guys with potential. let him spend a few years on ecw then pull him to raw.
this would be entertaining as hell and help set them up for the future.
also if ecw and raw are going to be together now, he could make guest appearances.
i think this would work with guys like carlito and palumbo too.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-17-2008, 05:40 PM
I think we all would rather see MVP getting his shots at the WWE or WHC titles...but yeah, if the next few months are blocked up with Edge and HHH, you might as well have him dominate ECW. It wouldn't bring any more "credibility" to that particular title, but it'll at least give MVP something to do instead of jobbing out to whoever is the next face to challenge for Edge's title.
Only problem with that is his contenders. If MVP starts losing to the likes of Jamie Noble and Jimmy Wang Yang for ECW title feuds, it'll just seem like yet another midcard title. Tricky situation, but they could pull it off if they had the necessary outlook and the right minds working that section of Creative. For instance, if ECW starts touring with Raw and exchanging talent, why not have MVP/HBK for the ECW title? Now there's some credibility. Or, down the line, MVP/Kennedy?
Jeff Hardy isn't going anywhere. He has been involved in that title picture for too long. Vince is gonna give him the Samoa Joe treatment and have him sink or swim. Cena to SD! is a lock though. Edge and Cena will be interesting.
psykohurricane
06-18-2008, 05:59 PM
I know it'S a long shot and would probably never happen but what if HHH would get drafted to smackdown and undertaker would get drafted to Raw. How big would that be? Since both of them have gone throught pretty much everybody on their respective shows i think a change of scenery would do them good and we could get some good feud out of it. On Smackdown you could have Edge vs HHH or MVP vs HHH while on Raw you could have Cena vs taker or taker vs Y2J. So i know that HHH would never go anywhere and that if HHH doesn't want to change brand then Taker won't want to swich either because he doesn'T like HHH but i think it would be the most memorable swich ever done during a wwe draft and it would be good for ratings.
rkolegendkiller007
06-18-2008, 06:17 PM
here is an idea they should take names of the entire roster and put them all in to a hat ( or something of that nature and here is the key let the fans draw the names out and redo all of the rosters from top to bottom. and the reasons i say let the fans draw the names out is so they ( WWE) can not fake the drawing. i mean its kinda like the way the draw numbers for the royal rumble but it would actually be legit if the fans drew the name. i mean imagine the possibilties. they would be endless. but then again what do i know i am just a wrestling fan.
Theo Mays
06-19-2008, 06:17 PM
I like the idea of starting fresh. Do it like the first WWE Draft. The three GM's make their selections. You can have the order be from rating order, so Raw goes 1, SD 2, ECW 3. So all the talent will be spread equally and everything will be fresh. Continue with the regulary scheduled NoC card, and announce the final roster on their respective shows. So that Monday on Raw, we learn the final Raw roster, Tuesday on ECW we learn ECW's final roster and Friday on SD we learn their final roster.
cactusJack98
06-20-2008, 06:02 PM
its not anything with the draft but ecw should be just that EXTREME championship wrestling or nothing at all its just another brand it is no different to the others, bring back the good old days when guys with shall we say not the best wrestling skills just killed each other and mix it up with great spot junkies like rvd and rey mysterio etc not this lame show that is just to build talent that wont go anywhere cause the product is dominated by frankly stale tsalent cena, hhh, umaga i could go on, my god i am just rambling lol
Zorlak
06-21-2008, 03:37 AM
These are my picks:
TO RAW:
Batista: tired of seeing him going after Edge of Undertaker for years
CM Punk: he will have a great push and go with a feud with Hardy
Elijah Burke: Maybe they can move him up for a IC shot
MVP: Same as Burke or even for a WWE champ shot
TO SMACKDOWN:
John Cena: He just need new opponents.
Umaga: Same as Cena.
Carlito: They could give him a good US champ streak.
TO ECW:
Hardcore Holly: ECW + Hardcore Holly = Excellent matches.
Super Crazy: He will actually have good matches.
Deuce: After splitting up with Domino he could work on single matches for a while.
WILDCARD:
Chuck Palumbo: He could move to ECW for a feud against Kane or Big Show and Mark Henry.
Mark henry: Same as Chuck.
John Morrison: I can see him getting moved to Smackdown for a US Champ run.
Lance Cade: I can see him going to Smackdown for some good single matches.
Val Venus: he just needs some matches, period.
thesaw24
06-21-2008, 09:58 AM
i have a feeling that the Miz or Morrison are gonna be traded to smackdown now more than ever because wwe is now airing a new internet segment with matt striker which may replace the dirt sheet other wise here are my draft list
Smackdown: Umaga, John Cena,CM punk (because they are starting stuff between him and edge) and the Miz
Raw: i kinda think raw is gonna get the least in this draft seeing as ECW is gonna be taped at raw now but i think they will get Elijah burke and Batista
ECW: Carlito, Big Show, Chuck Palumbo and MVP
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-21-2008, 02:31 PM
FINAL PREDICTIONS:
TO RAW OR ECW
1. Mark Henry - Smackdown has Khali and will be getting Umaga. Henry on ECW allows him to go to Raw or ECW at any times once they implement that. Henry isn't very useful, but he's a go-to guy for a "strong man", so this makes sense.
2. Ron Killings - My guess is ECW where he can tag team with Burke, but fill out the ranks of Raw's tag team division as well.
3. MVP - This is only if Morrison and Miz don't stay on ECW and are drafted to Smackdown, as Morrison effectively runs directly into MVP's spot that he would have on these two shows.
TO SMACKDOWN
1. John Cena - We've heard the rumors, and it makes perfect sense.
2. Umaga - We've heard the rumors, and he's run out of feuds essentially.
3. Carlito - United States title scene.
4. Cryme Tyme - Smackdown will need some solid tag teams and I think these two guys are going to be shipped over so that they "bring in more of the black audience", as it looks like Smackdown is going to be the variety circus show (Khali, Hornswoggle, Undertaker, etc).
5. Maria or Ashley - Unless they move Kelly, Layla, Lena, and "Tiffany" (not sure why they don't just call her Taryn) over to Smackdown, I think one of these two will move over to Smackdown to get a shot at that horrible new championship idea, essentially in exchange for Kelly being able to wrestle on both ECW and Raw. Maria, Kelly, and Ashley are all in the same league of being terrible wrestlers, but having fan bases, so its a 50/50 trade.
WILDCARDS
1. CM Punk - Do they keep him on ECW so he can wrestle on both that and Raw, giving him more options? Or do they put him on Smackdown so he can be on par with Mysterio just like Raw has both Hardy and Kennedy on the cusp of the main event?
2. John Morrison & The Miz - I don't think they're splitting these two up. However, the Raw/ECW roster gets called into question again. Do they use Morrison on par with Punk and Mysterio until he gets a title shot, with Miz being a very worthwhile opponent for Matt Hardy's US title? Or do they go for Miz at the IC level and Morrison at the main event on Raw?
3. Batista/Big Show - I don't think we'll see these two guys on the same show, especially not both being on Smackdown. One of them is moving to ECW or Raw. If Batista moves, he'll go directly over to Raw I think, but if Big Show moves, he'll go over to ECW.
4. Chuck Palumbo being traded for Lance Cade - Same level. It all depends on if they want to push Cade for the IC title, throw him on ECW, or put him in the US title scene. Palumbo's had his share of mini-feuds with people, so it would make sense to draft him over to ECW or Raw in place of Cade, who's had matches with most guys on Raw.
tehblogger
06-21-2008, 03:42 PM
It's unpredictable, this one. One thing though: I'm in the UK, and get frequently shown ads for the WWE's visits to my country. Specific performers get shown in these ads, which relate to specific brands. Does this have relevance to the draft, bearing in mind they're advertising for stuff that happens after the draft?
Anyway, here are my predictions:
To RAW
In all honesty, probably not that many, but I expect John Morrison to move over for a big main event push, and quite possibly the Miz as well, so he can go for the IC title. Apart from this? No idea; the RAW roster is overstacked anyway. Maybe Koslov, as he probably fits better on RAW than on SD. And perhaps Natalya. And also perhaps Batista, once I think about it.
To SMACKDOWN
John Cena, unquestionably. Smackdown badly needs another main eventer. He could have a good feud with Edge and La Familia, and who else is there? The idea of Triple H moving to the B show is laughable; you'll be telling me the moon's made of cheese next. Apart from Cena, I expect CM Punk, as although I don't think they've worked out what they're doing with MITB yet, he's not over enough to be pushed for the WWE Championship, and cashing MITB in on a ECW title that you've already held is retarded. So although I dislike the idea, they'll put Punk on SD, and if he cashes it in at all, will do so for the WHC. Also, perhaps Umaga, as there's almost nothing for him to do on RAW - one intriguing possibility would be to turn him face and have him ally with Taker when he comes back? We're all sick of monster heels who do nothing but squash jobbers and job themselves to the top guys. But Umaga is different, because he's a genuinely fine wrestler, and deserves better than to be stuck nowhere a la Snitsky. An alliance with Taker could solve that problem. Taker never says anything but is massively over - something for Umaga to try and emulate? I also thought one of HBK or Y2J, but given what happened on the most recent RAW it won't be Jericho, so I'll stick with HBK to move.
To ECW
Don't know, don't care. Hopefully no one good. Probably Carlito: this would be appropriate punishment for his recent mouthing off. And one of Dunce and Domino. Don't care which, seeing as I only worked out this week who was who. Very possibly MVP as well: he's stuck on SD and isn't over enough for RAW, so ECW it will be. I won't miss him, either. His match with Kane on yesterdays's SD was plain awful, except for when Kane was in control, and I'm no Kane mark. His personality pisses me off as well (MVP's).
Dagax
06-21-2008, 03:56 PM
To Raw:
1-Batista: I think his time on Smackdown! is over, or at least it should be. He has no one else left to feud with and his matches are becoming repetitive. How many times have we see him in a match against MVP? I think he could have interesting storylines on Raw.
2-Elijah Burke: This is just a guess but I think Burke could get a mid-card push on Raw, he hasn´t been used lately and maybe he can get a tag team partner. I know this isn´t very possible but it could happen.
3-Jesse & Festus: Raw need babyface tag teams if DiBiase and his partner win the tag team titles. Jesse and Festus are the right team to have a feud with the new tag champs (if it happens). I don´t see them getting a title shot or anything like that, but they could provide entertainment to monday night´s tag team division.
4-Kelly Kelly: I just see it happen. Vince is high on her character and I think she could be used as an underdog who wins a couple of matches.
To Smackdown!:
1-John Cena: I can totally see this happening on monday. He just doesn´t have anyone left to feud with on Raw and with Smackdown going to a new network he is just the perfect choice to boost ratings and attract kids. Cena could have a couple of feuds before going in the World Title picture (wich I hope he doesn´t win by the way).
2-CM Punk: Some people think he´s going to Raw, but if management want to push him he´s going to Smackdown. There are too many main eventers on Raw and Punk could benefit on Smackdown. He has managed to get great crowd reactions being on ECW. I would built him and have him use the contract on January or December.
3-Carlito: First of all, I want to say that I´m from Chile (south america) and I was at the press conference where Carlito talked trash about HHH. It was shocking as hell and I immediately tought that he´s going to Smackdown. He could feud with Matt Hardy for the US Title or even feud with Cena again. Carlito is a great wrestler and deserves to be pushed.
4-Jeff Hardy: I hope this happens. It could give him a fresh start, have him feud with top heels and maybe have a program with Edge for the World Championship. Hardy´s career on Raw isn´t going anywhere after he violated the welness policy but I hope he gets drafted to Smackdown so he can have a fresh start.
5-Umaga: We all know its going to happen.
To ECW:
1-Mark Henry: I think Henry its going to ECW to continue the feud for the ECW Championship.
2-Chuck Palumbo: I don´t know, I just think is going to happen.
I don´t really want to talk about ECW lol
I´m Undecided:
1-Chris Jericho: I hope he goes to Smackdown but I won´t be shocked if he stays on Raw. I could see him feud with Cena, Mysterio, Undertaker, etc. Would be a great addition to the Smackdown roster.
2-MVP: A lot of people have MVP to Raw on their "For Sure" lists but I can see 2 things happening: A)He does go to Raw and goes to the IC Title picture and maybe a WWE title feud with HHH. B)He stays on Smackdown as a babyface (turning face after feuding with La Familia) and feuds with Edge for the World Title. Maybe its unlikely, but still possible.
3-John Morrison & The Miz: Will they break up? Will they lose the tag titles and go to Raw? Will they retain and stay on Smackdown? I can´t see them on ECW so is either Raw or Smackdown.
4-Kofi Kingston: I can see him get drafted but, where? Smackdown is my preference but I could still see him stay on ECW or go to Raw.
5-Cryme Time: I can see them get drafted to Smackdown but you never know.
6-London & Kendrick: Same as Cryme Time.
7-Beth Phoenix: I could see her on Smackdown.
incrediblesim
06-22-2008, 04:28 AM
My third time on this thread but it's the draft so opinions change don't they?
I'd work on the basis that each GM gets 4 picks from the other 2 Brands. Add to that three Divas would also swap between S/D and RAW. Since ECW and RAW will be travelling together any talent swapped between them seems to be ineffectual overall. The most important thing in this Draft isto make SmackDown be able to stand on its own legs.
From RAW- S/D!
Triple H- He must know that if he was to do this he would be the definite top guy on S/D! Vince should say to him do it or get your ordinary ass back to FCW now!!!! Plus I want Taker on RAW so....
Umaga- He would actually look good with the WHC. He has been demoted to jobber status on RAW and then demoted again to having to tag with Snitsky. Fresh start.
Carlito- Needs to get away from RAW. Plain and simple. He'd play better to SmackDowns audience.
Charlie Haas- He is supposedly going to get a new gimmick sometime soon. SmackDown being the kids show would the place to exhibit his talents as well as a new gimmick.
Mickie James- The female wrestlers should be on SmackDown and the models etc should be on RAW.
Beth Phoenix- See above.
Melina- See above.
From ECW- S/D!
CM Punk- He won't be able to utilize his briefcase on RAW. There is not a Champion on RAW he could do it against. If he was over to the point of insanity then he could jump brands with it anyway. But I think the blue is best for CM Punk.
Armando Estrada- Re-Unite with Umaga.
Chavo Guerrero- Just to fill in the picks. He was officially taken to ECW when he became champ so I'm officially sending him back.
Bam Neeley- Packages with Chavo. I'd try to make them more of a Tag Team arrangement when the Famillia breaks up.
From S/D!- ECW
MVP- Firstly I'd turn this guy face. Then I'd use him to fill CM Punks void on ECW. He'd be ECW's main guy and since RAW and ECW are travelling together if he does "outgrow" ECW he can just find home on RAW.
Mark Henry- Just see out his contract,
Big Show- They want to go with Kane/Big Show again so this one is a certain one.
The Hurricane- I think the Hurricane character should return promoting justice on ECW.
From S/D!- RAW
Matt Hardy- He'd lose his belt at NOC. It wouldn't be unrealistic as Chavo has his Famillia behind him. Then he'd come to RAW.
The Great Khali- He'd fill Umaga's void on RAW. Plus with the new PPV deal they have in Asia it would make him more prominent.
Batista- Who does he have left to feud with on S/D? I'd do the heel turn. He'd have his time off and when he gets back he would start new feuds with Hardy, Kennedy and then he'd get involved with the Cena and the Title picture. Eventual feud with Orton. Short program with Taker again. Should be a good year for the oh-so jacked up one.
Deuce or Domino- The one that turned on the other on SmackDown recently.
RAW would eventually get Taker when he returns.
Michelle McCool- Models to RAW.
Maryse- Models to RAW.
Eve Torres- Last call all Models to RAW.
From ECW- RAW
John Morrison- Before 2011 he will be WWE Champ. Guranteed. Too much talent to be ignored.
The Miz- They won't split them up so when Finlay & Midget Balls beat them at NOC he'll come over too.
Elijah Burke- Re-packaged as an all out cheat to win heel. Give him some personality. When Kennedy holds a Mid-Card belt Elijah is good for a 2 month feud. He can hold his own in the ring and he is good on the mic.
Big Daddy V- He has more "potential" so to speak then Mark Henry so he's good to become Cena's next BIG victim.
RAW- ECW
Lance Cade- He'd show up on RAW to form a Tag Team between him and Jericho. After he has picked up enough heel heat he would be good to come against MVP on ECW.
Snitsky- It seems like all the over 300 pound pieces of trash are heading to ECW. Seriously he has nothing on RAW. I just want ECW to become this place where 300 pound guys fall of sets and cages.
Val Venis- He can job ECW as well as RAW. But make ECW home.
Hardcore Holly- He is "Hardcore" so why not on ECW. He's good for a short title program.
Mighty NorCal
06-23-2008, 01:59 PM
Just though of something, from my own brain just now.
I can seriously see SD! getting some good quality out of this. They pretty much HAVE to, since ECW will not be supplementing the roster anymore. Think about what you see on SD! every week. At least two matches involve ECW guys every week. Now that ECW will be traveling with RAW, this will be no longer. So therefore SD! pretty much HAS to get some good value added to them, at least a solid ME guy, and some mid card help. Not sure who exactly, although I would love to see Kennedy and Cena go over there. Quite possibly Jeff Hardy, I can actually see that VERY much happening. Umaga as well. While RAW's ratings are sagging, they will have a infusion of new guys ANYWAY, by basically drafting ECW next month. SD! will have about ten less guys to work with now. So WWE has to replace them.
kingrko
06-23-2008, 05:19 PM
Personally, there would be no need for ECW to use Smackdown as a crutch if they could just get some of THE main eventers in the Land of "Extreme." Maybe give'em Edge or Jeff Hardy, two of whom are capable of main events. Give them upper midcards to main eventers like Jericho, or even MVP. Also, get some freakin' decent wrestling divas on their. Natalyia and Victoria are wasted on SD! so put'em on ECW with the other divas to bully. Those two could pull off hardore matches against each other, and I think that would actually help this draft. It's probably a good idea not to just focus on the guys, but the HOT divas that can wrestle. Also, give Punk to Raw or SD! People say he's not ready, but he'll NEVER be ready if he doesn't get on one of the bigger shows and get put over with the crowd by battling a main event heel from Raw, like Jericho. I could see them having an awesomie fued that would help CM Punk alot. Point is, the upper midcarders getting traded around is what's going to be the key to open plenty of awesome main event doors for WWE.
tehblogger
06-23-2008, 05:36 PM
I'll swallow my bootlaces whole if Jeff Hardy gets drafted. He's probably their biggest draw at the moment - do you really think they'd take him off their flagship show? That would be insanity. Besides, they've advertised RAW shows for November with him in the ads (but not with Cena in them). Seeing as ECW and RAW will be travelling together, they can use him on that show anyway. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Jeff drafted, because I really like watching the guy, I get to watch more of SD than RAW, and getting away from HHH is definitely a good career move - it's made Edge into undisputed top heel - but I'll be very surprised if this happens.
chasingamy
06-23-2008, 07:20 PM
Amy's last minute 2008 WWE Draft Picks:
Smackdown
Cena: I’ve debated this one more than anything. I’m going to give into the rumors and say Cena goes back to the show where it all started for him. With the Smackdown-ECW talent exchange ending in a few weeks, Smackdown will need all the star power it can get.
Umaga: There isn’t anything left for him to do on Raw but continue jobbing to the likes of Jeff Hardy, which we’ve all grown tired of. It’s been rumored he’s going to SmackDown for awhile now and I’m looking forward to a fresh start for Umaga.
Val Venis: Raw won’t miss him as he isn’t doing anything. When he does make an appearance (about once every three months), he jobs. He can do that on any brand. I say move him to Smackdown and he can be Kozlov’s next squash.
Trevor Murdoch: If he isn't going to have a long-term feud with Lance Cade, move Murdoch to another brand, preferably Smackdown. He can form a new ‘rednecks’ tag team with Jimmy Wang Yang once he returns from his suspension.
Chris Jericho: Y2J needs a fresh start as well. Other than his heel turn two weeks ago, Jericho hasn’t really made an impact since his return, getting stuck in a boring JBL feud then another, so far uneventful, IC title run. I just don’t see him getting close to the WWE title anytime soon, at least not as long as he and HHH are on the same show. I think we could get some good feuds and matches from Jericho against the likes of MVP, Edge, Morrison, Finlay, and Hardy over on Smackdown.
Shelton Benjamin: I feel like it’s now or never for Shelton. He should go to Smackdown and get a nice mid-card push and US title reign down the road.
John Morrison: Morrison’s a star in the waiting. He’s already been ECW champ, so there’s no reason for him to stay on the brand. He should move to Smackdown and get in the US title hunt and eventually the WHC main event.
Raw
Batista: Like Umaga, it’s been rumored he’s going to Raw and there’s no one left for him on Smackdown.
CM Punk: He’s outgrown ECW and although I’d prefer him on Smackdown as they keep teasing Punk-Edge, I have a feeling he’ll go to Raw. I hope he feuds with Hardy and loses that case as I have a bet riding on it.
Elijah Burke: He’s wrestled just about everyone there is on ECW and they haven’t used him in forever. I’d like to see him get a mid-card push and eventual IC run.
Chuck Palumbo: He also needs a fresh start. He’s wrestled most everyone on Smackdown.
Kelly Kelly: Like Punk, she’s too over to remain on ECW and that brand needs fresh faces. Also, Vince is big on her . Plus with the upcoming pairing of Raw and ECW, she could still wrestle (or dance as the case may be) on both shows.
ECW
Carlito: Maybe a switch to a different brand and a push will help Carlito find some passion and develop consistency in his matches. I see him going to the 3rd rate show…if for no other reason than punishment for running his mouth so much.
Big Show: Go ahead and make it official. He’s currently challenging for the ECW title anyway and I see another reign in the near future for him.
Super Crazy: Raw won’t miss him as he isn’t doing anything. When he does make the rare appearance, he jobs. He can do that on any brand. I think he’d fit in nicely on ECW with the likes of Bourne, Kofi, Delaney, etc.
Shannon Moore: He’s not doing anything on Smackdown and he’d fit in well the other ‘cruisers’ over on ECW.
Jillian Hall: She needs a fresh start and ECW needs divas. Plus with the upcoming pairing of Raw and ECW, she could still wrestle on both shows.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Ok....I willingly admit, I didn't see those drafts coming. But why? Because they make no sense haha. I'm totally confused as to what they think they're doing here.
HHH, Kennedy, Umaga, and Jeff Hardy to Smackdown
--Ok. So now we have Edge, Big Show, Undertaker, and HHH on Smackdown. Which means we will never see Jeff, Umaga, MVP, or Kennedy be the WHC as the four of these guys will be hogging the title scene (even if Big Show beats Kane, that's still 3 people that will hog it more than Big Show would). Who honestly thinks we'll be seeing World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Hardy, World Heavyweight Champion Mr. Kennedy, or World Heavyweight Champion MVP anytime soon now, unless it means they just totally make Edge look terrible once again.
Kane, Batista, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio to Raw
--So let me get this straight. You want to push Jeff Hardy, MVP, Umaga, and Kennedy to become main event stars, right? Now, I can understand if you turn Batista heel, it'll balance out Raw losing Umaga. However, the four newbies on Smackdown will be buried and who is now in the main event of Raw? Cena, whom people are tired of seeing reign for champ a year straight, Batista, whom people either love or hate, Kane, who can't even be booked in better feuds than Chavo Guerrero, CM Punk who's lost more matches lately than before, Rey Mysterio who will never be WWE champion, Randy Orton who is ok, JBL who is horrible, Jericho who is ok, and HBK who is ok. Looks like Raw just got even more boring as now we'll have to sit through feuds like "Mysterio vs Batista", "Punk vs Cena", "JBL vs Kane", "JBL vs Punk"....
Jim Ross & Michael Cole Swap
--Not really sure why, but we'll see. Would've made more sense in my mind to switch Lawler and Foley.
Matt Hardy to ECW
--Wow, so Matt is going to be the new ECW champ most likely, as they've lost Punk and Kane. Matt hasn't even proven himself as a good United States champ, but instead of giving the top spot to Jeff or Kennedy, they give it to Matt? This makes no sense.
Now before anyone jumps and says "stop being so negative, it hasn't even happened yet, omglolzorz", this is just how I see it, but I hope to high hell that they have a plan so it doesn't turn out this way.
PC712
06-24-2008, 01:25 AM
This Draft just messed up the WWE. RAW fans do not want to see Batista. Fuck Batista he sucks. Kane to RAW???? WHAT>? They should put Morrison to RAW, make him and MIZ break up so Morrison can wrestle singles. Vince with the stage explosion thing was sooooooo gay. Triple H made it sooo much gayer. Plus him to Smackdown was retarded. Ummm what else made this night so bad...um this whole million dollar thing is stupid. Even the people that win aren't even excited. Mexicans only watch Smackdown and to get rid of Rey Mysterio was stupid. Why the hell is Ric Flair back so soon. I think all the writers and Vince have lost there minds and are getting tooo old. Let shane take over the company. Jim Ross to Smackdown was idiotic. Like WTF kind of drugs are these writers on? That was rude of them to put him on Smackdown. Edge should come to RAW someday. Why aren't they making the Great Khali an unstopple force, they totally ruined his gimmick from day one. The guy is a fucking freak. So make him fucking freakish. Idiots!! Y2J made him a heel again asap. They need more Tag Teams, get rid of Cody Blows and Hardcore Faggot. Bring that Hart Fondation 2.0 or whatever. They need to make stables. Thats when people watched. Theres a lot more i want to say but why bother writing about shit that blows so bad.
Goodnight everyone.
-PAT-
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-24-2008, 02:49 AM
Now, maybe I've missed something, but is there any mention of a Supplemental Draft or a continuation or anything like they did last year on WWE.com?
They really need to shift around the midcard guys as well, not just the main eventers. Otherwise we're going to be stuck seeing Finlay/Palumbo and Nunzio/Burke (when they even show Burke which is like once every two months).
However, I haven't come across anything saying that more drafts will take place. This kind of has me worried, especially with how botched this draft seems to have become already lol.
i76hitman
06-24-2008, 03:22 AM
I was kinda hoping that Triple H didn't go to Smackdown, simply because I kinda thought it looked like they were gearing it up to be a show where they can let the new and FRESH talent shine (Kennedy/MVP feud anyone?). I mean even with Triple H on Smackdown now, they got even more humbled with the loss of main event talent, where Raw got oversaturated once again. With the exception of Triple H, Edge and the Big Show (and Undertaker?), the absolute TOP draws are ALL on Raw now. I woulda preferred Jericho going to Smackdown since I think he's a lot more versatile than Triple H.
Actually now that I think of it, if anyone got absolutely raped was ECW. They lost their two biggest stars. Looks like ECW is gonna be turned into WCW's Saturday Night with their talent being all seemingly low/mid-carders with no higher drawing midcards besides John Morrison and Matt Hardy.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-24-2008, 03:34 AM
I mean even with Triple H on Smackdown now, they got even more humbled with the loss of main event talent, where Raw got oversaturated once again. With the exception of Triple H, Edge and the Big Show (and Undertaker?), the absolute TOP draws are ALL on Raw now.
How so? Smackdown has Edge, Taker, Umaga, Big Show, Kennedy, Hardy, MVP, and HHH. That's too jam-packed for everyone to be WHC. Raw's main event now only has the following good people in it: Orton, Cena, HBK, Jericho, with the possibility of Batista. They other "main event" stars that they have are JBL, Mysterio, Kane, Punk...really? I can't subscribe to seeing Cena/Orton, Orton/HBK, Cena/JBL, HBK/Batista/Jericho, and so forth for the next 12 months. The only "new" guys on Raw for feuds are Batista, Mysterio, Punk, and Kane, all three guys that can't make it to become solid main eventers no matter how much they try, with a lunkheaded bore on top of them lol. Would we really want Batista/Punk as a main event at WrestleMania? Lol. Or maybe JBL/Kane? Yeesh.
Smackdown got the most stars, and they have nowhere for half of them to go. ECW got the shortest end of the stick, as now they have MATT HARDY out of all people and nobody else, essentially. Raw isn't atrocious, but they're far worse off than they were before as the biggest names they have on there have already feuded with each other for the past year, and the other names don't matter much anyway.
Montel_Vontavious_Porter
06-24-2008, 04:10 AM
Fueds for Smackdown. Either we will see HHH vs. Taker or HHH vs. Edge @ WrestleMania 25.
HHH, Edge and Undertaker( If he doesnt go to Raw) are going to be hogging the Smackdown Main Event, with the occasional Big Show and Umaga getting title matches. Now as much as i love Triple H, i cant see MVP or Mr.Kennedy getting anywere to quickly, which annoys me because i wanna see MVP be elevated into the Main Event scene.
Now for Raw. Batista, John Cena, Shawn Michaels, Rey Mysterio and Randy Orton. These guys will be taking the Raw Main Event scene, with the occasional JBL and maybe Jericho getting a title match.
Faces on Raw now- Batista, HBK, Cm Punk, Kane, John Cena, Rey Mysterio. Heels- Jericho, JBL and Orton.
I think in the near future we can see Batista turning heel.
tehblogger
06-24-2008, 05:00 AM
Ooh, god, what a horrible draft. This is going to make RAW totally unwatchable, though I now think they'll pick up Undertaker when he comes back. But even that won't help much. It almost feels as though they pushed Triple H into going to SD, so he's made that the "A" show instead. ECW and RAW have just got butchered.
Of course, this is great for me, since I get to watch way more of SD than I do RAW, and I'm sure I'll see some great feuds, even though I find watching Triple H unbearable. My sympathies for Jeff Hardy. The poor bastard can't get away from HHH. And Umaga. He'll be stuck in glorified jobber mode again. The way things have panned out, he'd have been better off staying on RAW. But some poor sods have no bloody luck.
Cakes151515
06-24-2008, 07:22 AM
I don't really understand what they were thinking this year in the year. First off ECW dosen't even have the right to have Matt Hardy on the show. I know they want to make him a world champion but he should be on a real show. Rey going to Raw made a lot of sense until you draft Mr. Kennedy and Triple H to Smackdown. CM Punk to Raw...well I don't really care for the king of independence, and he shouldn't be going to Raw. Why Kane to Raw, when he was a great fit for "ECW" he has been around long enough to have a world title, but unlike Matt Hardy, the ECW title was perfect. If I had to rate this year draft it would definally get a C-. What I love the most is they moved Edge to Smackdown because he didn't want to work with Triple H. Well Edge guess what, have fun not having the world title for a whole year until next years draft, because you will never get that title with Triple H on the show. And now Raw with 3 titles. Oh wait they still have the IC title right. I mean some wrestler dose have the title and defends it right? Oh yeah Y2J. Sorry Chris that title dosen't mean a thing. And now the ECW title. Yeah I don't get that. And now Smackdown only having one title. Whose soul future will be around Triple H's waist meaning all those guys with talent, and they don't have a second title. Way to go Vince. You didn't do a smart job on this draft. I think you did a better job faking your injuries from the stage falling on you.
Italian MVP
06-24-2008, 07:49 AM
why the fuck did ecw get 1 draft pick?
Because there the "C" Show. Smackdown and RAW were in trouble with new feuds and some fresh stars whereas ECW is only for superstars breaking through the ranks, so therefore RAW and Smackdown have the prority of the Draft picks.
Plus RAW and Smackdown are in desperate need of an increase to their ratings thats why they got the draft picks and ECW didnt. But ECW did deserve a couple more mid-carders like the likes of Carlito, Lance Cade, Haas ect so they did get the raw end of the deal. But still RAW and Smackdown needed it way more....
psykohurricane
06-24-2008, 08:20 AM
i know that a lot of fans didn't like the Draft this year but for me i think that it was one of the best draft the WWE ever produce and for once they all the draft pick made sense.
First Raw got Rey Mysterio who is a former world heavyweight champion and could feud with guys like jericho and HBK and maybe Cena.
Then they got C.M. Punk but the interesting with this pick is that if he doesn'T work out on Raw and isn't able to raise to the challenge of being a upper card player on Raw, they could always switch him back to ECW or Smackdown by using the money in the bank contract as a way to get him back on either brand. And the casual fans actually love this guy.
Then they got Kane which i don'T understand really why Kane is back on raw but am guessing that he going to be in a mid-card feud with JBL after losing the ECW title to big show.
Finally Batista is a very good pick for RAw. Batista is still one of the most over guy in the WWE and casual fan actually want to see a feud between Cena and Batista and i'm guessing that we might just get it very soon.
ECW only got Matt HArdy but the way ECW is going right now, Matt Hardy will fit right in since ECW as become the wrestling show of the WWE and with CM Punk Leaving the brand, ECW need a really good wrestler to take his place.
Now Let talk about Smackdown, First they got Jeff HArdy. HArdy is another guy that is on the verge of becoming of main eventer but the fact that this is his last chance before getting fired, i think that the WWE is a little bit scared of putting him in the main event picture but even with all that i still think that having HArdy Move to smackdown will be a good for him and in the end he might be given the chance to run with the ball and become world champion.
Umaga going to smackdown isn't that great but smackdown need another big HEel and Umaga will be the number 2 heel on smackdown. If they are smart they could use him as a unofficial bodyguard for La familia.
Mr. KEnnedy going back to smackdown is great in more ways then one. First the guys is talented and if he doesn'T make any big mistake outside the ring or get injured the guys is a future main eventer. The first thing i thought when he got draft was that eventually, they are going to give us a feud between Mr.Kennedy and Edge and it was apparent when last night Kennedy came out and said to edge that he was comiong for him. Plus these 2 go history together since it was last year that edge took the money in the bank briefcase away from Kennedy only to leave raw to go to smackdown and win the world title so you know that Kennedy will want revenge for that.
Finally the biggest draft pick of them all, HHH going to smackdown. Again with TAker gone, Smackdown needed a veteran wrestler on the brand so having HHH on Smackdown is a great move because it give the feel that Smackdown is has good as raw. Secondly that give HHH a chance to feud with guys that he never feud against before the first being Edge which should be a very interesting feud.
Now i know what your thinking, Smackdown got HHH and Undertaker on their brand. THat what the magic of the undertaker storyline come in to play. Taker was banded from the WWE after One Night Stand, so now when he decide to return, he could just go to another brand without really any problem because he going to be a free agent. So i wouldn'T be surprise to see Taker on Raw at some point.
Finally i didn'T really talk about to J.R. and Micheal Cole trade because i just think that this was made just to say that nobody was save from the draft.
jpfizzle
06-24-2008, 12:40 PM
I am genuinely suprised to see people saying this was a botched draft and what not... and in response to so many of the responses which are like.. why did this happen? this is stupid etc... my response is how so????
So many positives came out of this Draft, Triple H needed to leave RAW. People had grown too comftable and things had gotten really stale lately on all 3 shows. JR and the King simply had to split up in my opinon. Jim Ross will not be around for ever and by making Cole move up to the A show I think it shows WWE is finnaly ready to move on and move forward... so many diffrent angles can happen from what the draft produced alone. Kennedy has a chance to regroup, he'd have got forgotten on RAW. All 3 titles could end up on RAW after NOC as well as MITB. More importantly by bringing Orton out and reminding us of himself as well as the whole Jericho/ Cade vs HBK segment I think this 3 hour draft truly showed just how much talent WWE has at its disposal. The fact ECW only got one draft doesnt matter... I feel like Tazz is ready to lead ECW in a battle or recruit from Smackdown and Raw and take its future in to there own hands.
The Vince angle has so many possibilitys and was not stupid in the slightest for me... I for sure will be watching all the WWE shows this week and am sure many other fans will as well.
Best DRAFT ever!!!!
simpsons_fanatic742
06-24-2008, 01:57 PM
It seems to me, from reading alot of the draft responses on the main site and on these forums, that JR leaving RAW is the biggest surprise. Alot of the posts are about how dumb of a move it is, while some agree with the move.
This is probably the same case with me. I think the JR move is just as shocking as seeing Triple H move, because I thought he would never leave RAW.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-24-2008, 02:26 PM
I am genuinely suprised to see people saying this was a botched draft and what not... and in response to so many of the responses which are like.. why did this happen? this is stupid etc... my response is how so????
So many positives came out of this Draft, Triple H needed to leave RAW. People had grown too comftable and things had gotten really stale lately on all 3 shows. JR and the King simply had to split up in my opinon. Jim Ross will not be around for ever and by making Cole move up to the A show I think it shows WWE is finnaly ready to move on and move forward... so many diffrent angles can happen from what the draft produced alone. Kennedy has a chance to regroup, he'd have got forgotten on RAW. All 3 titles could end up on RAW after NOC as well as MITB. More importantly by bringing Orton out and reminding us of himself as well as the whole Jericho/ Cade vs HBK segment I think this 3 hour draft truly showed just how much talent WWE has at its disposal. The fact ECW only got one draft doesnt matter... I feel like Tazz is ready to lead ECW in a battle or recruit from Smackdown and Raw and take its future in to there own hands.
The Vince angle has so many possibilitys and was not stupid in the slightest for me... I for sure will be watching all the WWE shows this week and am sure many other fans will as well.
Best DRAFT ever!!!!
I can't speak for anybody else, but the reason I call it a botched draft is because the draft has three essential goals in mind: freshen things up, push new talent, and balance out the shows to make them more entertaining. But they screwed themselves over with some of their choices.
For instance, "freshen things up". A lot of people say "HHH was stale on Raw, Batista was stale on Smackdown"...but does the logo really matter when you move half the roster with them? On Raw, the entire year was dominated by feuds between Cena, HHH, Orton, JBL, Hardy, HBK, and Jericho, correct? Raw loses HHH and Hardy. That means we'll have to sit through even more Cena/Orton, Orton/HBK, Cena/JBL. That's not fresh at all. Also, we'll see Umaga continue to be squashed by Jeff Hardy and Triple H. We've seen that for the past year. Granted we have a few people that can feud that couldn't before, when you bring Batista, Mysterio, and Punk into the mix, but really, how good are they? Is Cena/Punk going to be a main event feud people care about? Does anybody REALLY want to see Kane/Mysterio? Or what about Punk/JBL? Give me a break. This year just SCREAMS that it'll be Cena holding the title for months on end, that way he can feud with Batista, JBL, Orton, Jericho, and a possible Punk heel turn, and everyone can start hating Cena when he was finally getting some pops again. As far as the midcards go for all three shows, not a single one of the midcarders moved, so we won't see any changes in "freshening things up". We'll continue not to see Elijah Burke at all, we'll have Deuce and Domino on the same show despite breaking up but having nowhere to make any names for themselves, Carlito will continue jobbing instead of going on ECW where he could make a difference, etc.
Then for "push new talent" aspect. When you've got the Undertaker, Edge, and HHH on Smackdown, you have zero room for Jeff, Kennedy, MVP, or Umaga to move up to the main event. So they'll be stuck in the same position they were last year: upper midcard. Unless of course the WWE says "well we lost Matt Hardy in the midcard, so I guess we'll demote these four and make them the midcard division. People will like Jeff Hardy versus Palumbo, right?" The only way that Edge will not just be screwed out of his main event spot is if the Undertaker moves away from Smackdown, which kills their storyline, but if HHH really wants to turn heel like he said, do you think he's going to let Edge be the dominant heel instead of him? No chance. And where's Umaga and MVP fit in the heel hierarchy on Smackdown, then? Nowhere.
"Balancing out the shows". Who does ECW have now? They have John Morrison who should be pushed to the main event on Raw or Smackdown but he won't be now as bigger names will shun him away. They have Shelton Benjamin who can't figure out a way to get over. And they have Matt Hardy, who hasn't even proved himself worthy of a decent US title feud after winning it, so he can't carry the brand. Kane moves the ECW title over to Raw with him, so if Big Show wins at NoC, he'll be on RAW, not ECW. Makes no sense. So we have Smackdown now with way too many main event guys and no midcard (sound familiar, ala how Raw was before), Raw with way too many midcarders and the main event consisting of the same 4 guys we've seen fighting for a year (sound familiar, ala how Smackdown was before), and ECW with absolutely nobody except one guy who should be pushed farther (Morrison), and three "solid midcarders that aren't in the upper midcard yet" (Shelton, Miz, and Matt Hardy).
The draft would have made much more sense if even a few little things had changed. For instance, if you want to push Jeff Hardy or Kennedy, why put them on Smackdown with guys that won't be leaving the main event anytime soon to give them a chance? Since Raw is lacking in main event people now, Kennedy staying on there would've helped push him greatly. An ECW move to Jeff Hardy would've given them a solid main event guy that could carry the belt a long time convincingly and help ratings. Smackdown is the more kid-friendly show, so why not move Cena there instead of Triple H? That would give us the potential for some feuds we haven't seen before (HHH/Kennedy, Cena/Undertaker, Cena/MVP). No women are drafted, so we won't be seeing Mickie/Natalya, Melina/Victoria, Michelle/Beth or anything different, we'll just be stuck seeing even more of Cherry/Maryse and such.
Know what I mean? The draft had the potential to move around so many people that would've benefited, but unless they have some major plans in effect (and that they're much better than that pathetic injury angle that took place with Vince) then the way I look at it, we have the future stars that needed pushes will be going nowhere, the feuds at the top we've seen 100x will continue, the midcarders will fight the same people they've been fighting for a year now, ECW will be more than a bore, and Raw will look as if all their stars are out on injuries and they're scraping the bottom of the barrel by having something like Punk/Mysterio to fill in the gaps that aren't dominated by a year-long Cena reign which nobody wants to see again.
simpsons_fanatic742
06-24-2008, 02:58 PM
After looking over the draft and where the wrestlers went, I'm led to believe that SD! won the draft. I believe they came away with tons of star power and with the wrestlers who were carrying tons of momentum.
HHH(champion, one of the biggest stars in the company), Edge(champion, probably the biggest heel), Kennedy(tons of momentum), Jeff Hardy(tons of momentum), Umaga(great in-ring worker, great heel), MVP(potential), and JR(best commentator in the biz)
I think RAW came away good, but not with the same star power roster as SD!.
John Cena, Batista, Orton are the biggest stars right now in the main event picture and Orton is injured. Micheals and jericho are in the middle of a fued and I can't see Rey and CM in the title picture. Maybe Kane, but I don't think so.
As for ECW, they did get a mid-card title, but at the expence of their own title and their two biggest stars.
psykohurricane
06-24-2008, 04:49 PM
"Balancing out the shows". Who does ECW have now? They have John Morrison who should be pushed to the main event on Raw or Smackdown but he won't be now as bigger names will shun him away. They have Shelton Benjamin who can't figure out a way to get over. And they have Matt Hardy, who hasn't even proved himself worthy of a decent US title feud after winning it, so he can't carry the brand. Kane moves the ECW title over to Raw with him, so if Big Show wins at NoC, he'll be on RAW, not ECW. Makes no sense. So we have Smackdown now with way too many main event guys and no midcard (sound familiar, ala how Raw was before), Raw with way too many midcarders and the main event consisting of the same 4 guys we've seen fighting for a year (sound familiar, ala how Smackdown was before), and ECW with absolutely nobody except one guy who should be pushed farther (Morrison), and three "solid midcarders that aren't in the upper midcard yet" (Shelton, Miz, and Matt Hardy).
first of all, if i understood correctly, the match for the ECW title between KAne and Big show is still happenning and for what i understand, they said that if big show won the match the title came back with him on Smackdown so i don'T i think you didn't listen when they talk about that situation. As far as John Morrison being push to the main event level, i think that it would be a terrible idea to push him to the main event level, the only reason the guys is over right now is because of him being team up with the miz, If you split these to guys up you get the same old run of the mill cocky heels. JOhn morisson is a mid card guy and will always be a mid card guy simply because of the gimmick he'S got. Also i got to say that ECW is on the verge of cancellation anyway so am pretty sure that by june next year every ECW superstar will be put on either smackdown or raw and that why ECW got shafted last night.
Know what I mean? The draft had the potential to move around so many people that would've benefited, but unless they have some major plans in effect (and that they're much better than that pathetic injury angle that took place with Vince) then the way I look at it, we have the future stars that needed pushes will be going nowhere, the feuds at the top we've seen 100x will continue, the midcarders will fight the same people they've been fighting for a year now, ECW will be more than a bore, and Raw will look as if all their stars are out on injuries and they're scraping the bottom of the barrel by having something like Punk/Mysterio to fill in the gaps that aren't dominated by a year-long Cena reign which nobody wants to see again.
Let's face the future of the WWE that your talking about isn'T happening for a long time. They try to push Jeff HArdy to the main event level at the beginning of the year and just when he was about to be a main event player, he screws up and get suspended. Mr Kennedy was another guy that was supposed to be a main event start. Vince wanted to make him a main eventer last year but just when he was about to become one, he gets injured but after a couple of months of he came back and Vince try it again push him and try to make him a main eventer again, then kennedy got suspended and to make matter worst he embaressed the wwe by lying about not talking drugs on live t.v twice. So these 2 guys who should have been the future are lucky to still be in the upper mid card area. Has far as the future star going nowhere, what future stars? All i see is Main eventers like HHH and EDge, trying to make guys like jeff hardy and MVP look good and trying to help them become main eventer and i still think that will be the case even after the draft. HAs far as your opinion on RAw scrapping to bottom of the barrell with Cm punk and REy mysterio, i got to disagree with this since i see Punk has the future of the buiness. Also if the is two guy that are as over as jeff hardy is right now it's Punk and Mysterio so having them on raw does make sense.
Just to close out this reply, i'm sure that i'm not that only one the wouldn'T mind seeing Cena getting another long title reign. And the fact that he got new guys to work with will make it even more existing, so in my opinion, if the draft result stays the same, i think that it's going to be a exiting year.
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-24-2008, 06:03 PM
Some valid points, but some other ones that I have to disagree with.
You say John Morrison, Jeff Hardy, and Kennedy are career midcarders that shouldn't be pushed, (and that Morrison is only good because he's with Miz, who I think most people would agree has done better by teaming with Morrison, not the other way around). Even if Hardy and Kennedy screwed up big pushes in the past, that doesn't mean the WWE has completely given up on them. In fact, Kennedy was given a major face push by feuding with Regal (which Regal screwed up) and Hardy has been consistently booked as being two steps away from the main event for the past 6 months. Its clear that they're still big on these two. But even if they're not ready for the WWE or WHC titles, I mentioned moving them to ECW, which right now has nobody to contend for a main event spot. Will they leave Hardy, Kennedy, Umaga, and MVP off a ppv card and have Matt Hardy vs Armando Estrada instead?
Big Show keeping the ECW title on Smackdown if he wins, I must have missed that part, but even so, why does the WWE want the ECW title on Smackdown but the US title on ECW?
And "bottom of the barrel" for Punk and Mysterio...you can't possibly say Punk is as over as Jeff Hardy is. Mysterio is a good balance, yeah, but the problem with him is that he's never been a main event guy. He won the WHC a while back due to an Eddie Guerrero death jetpack on his back, then only held it for about 3 months before going down to feud with Chavo and never reaching that peak again. Ever since then, Rey's been more along the lines of upper midcard who nobody ever expects to win the main event match as he never does. He's, in essence, Mark Henry. He'll win smaller matches constantly but when push comes to shove, he'll never win the big one. I think he'd make an EXCEPTIONAL Intercontinental champion, possibly one of the very best choices they could have for it, but you don't make someone like Mysterio be one of the people you rest a brand's shoulders on as he's barely big enough for a steel chair. Punk has supposedly been pissing off a lot of people backstage, isn't getting as much of a reaction, hasn't been winning most of his matches lately and was the last minute replacement for Hardy's Money in the Bank. If they were serious on pushing him, wouldn't he be showcasing his abilities and winning matches instead of jobbing to Miz?
Lastly, Cena's reign. True, me saying "nobody" wants to see it again is overstepping the line a little, as Cena does still have fans. But do you remember how horribly Cena was getting booed when he was reigning WWE champion for a year? He's only just now starting to win some people over, and that's most likely because he isn't being pushed as the unstoppable champion. If he becomes WWE champ and is the only draw they have, feuding with the same people as he's feuded with before (Orton, JBL) then look for the boos to come roaring back tenfold.
So while Raw and Smackdown give us a very marginal amount of new feuds that may or may not be properly executed (Cena/Jericho, HBK/Punk, Cena/Batista, Jeff/Edge, Kennedy/Edge, Undertaker/Umaga) they also give us the same old, same old (Cena/Orton, JBL/anybody, Jeff/Umaga, HHH/Umaga) or things that most likely won't matter at all (Big Show/nobody on ECW).
PC712
06-24-2008, 06:19 PM
first of all, if i understood correctly, the match for the ECW title between KAne and Big show is still happenning and for what i understand, they said that if big show won the match the title came back with him on Smackdown so i don'T i think you didn't listen when they talk about that situation. As far as John Morrison being push to the main event level, i think that it would be a terrible idea to push him to the main event level, the only reason the guys is over right now is because of him being team up with the miz, If you split these to guys up you get the same old run of the mill cocky heels. JOhn morisson is a mid card guy and will always be a mid card guy simply because of the gimmick he'S got. Also i got to say that ECW is on the verge of cancellation anyway so am pretty sure that by june next year every ECW superstar will be put on either smackdown or raw and that why ECW got shafted last night.
Let's face the future of the WWE that your talking about isn'T happening for a long time. They try to push Jeff HArdy to the main event level at the beginning of the year and just when he was about to be a main event player, he screws up and get suspended. Mr Kennedy was another guy that was supposed to be a main event start. Vince wanted to make him a main eventer last year but just when he was about to become one, he gets injured but after a couple of months of he came back and Vince try it again push him and try to make him a main eventer again, then kennedy got suspended and to make matter worst he embaressed the wwe by lying about not talking drugs on live t.v twice. So these 2 guys who should have been the future are lucky to still be in the upper mid card area. Has far as the future star going nowhere, what future stars? All i see is Main eventers like HHH and EDge, trying to make guys like jeff hardy and MVP look good and trying to help them become main eventer and i still think that will be the case even after the draft. HAs far as your opinion on RAw scrapping to bottom of the barrell with Cm punk and REy mysterio, i got to disagree with this since i see Punk has the future of the buiness. Also if the is two guy that are as over as jeff hardy is right now it's Punk and Mysterio so having them on raw does make sense.
Just to close out this reply, i'm sure that i'm not that only one the wouldn'T mind seeing Cena getting another long title reign. And the fact that he got new guys to work with will make it even more existing, so in my opinion, if the draft result stays the same, i think that it's going to be a exiting year.
John Morrison is probably the best wrestler the WWE has, all he needs to do is to work on his mic skills. He's a HBK in the making. Shawn Michaels "Bret Michaels gimmick" John Morrison "Jim Morrison gimmick" He got the biggest pop at wrestlemania doing the moonsault with the ladder off the top. I know I was there. But like i said all he needs is better mic skills. CM Punk is the future of this business? CM Punk Sucks. everyone booed him at wrestlemania when he won the MIB. No one wants to see a straight-edge faggot win the title. I hate CM Punk with a passion. If i ever see the world title and the name CM Punk written in gold on it...I will put a bullet in my head. Rey Mysterio to RAW was stupid. Only Smackdown fans like him. AKA 5-15 YEAR OLDS!! Hopefully Jeff Hardy can fix that problem since hes now on Smackdown. Maybe some more glow in the dark paint might do it for him. Thats all i have to say.
-PC-
psykohurricane
06-24-2008, 06:39 PM
Some valid points, but some other ones that I have to disagree with.
You say John Morrison, Jeff Hardy, and Kennedy are career midcarders that shouldn't be pushed, (and that Morrison is only good because he's with Miz, who I think most people would agree has done better by teaming with Morrison, not the other way around). Even if Hardy and Kennedy screwed up big pushes in the past, that doesn't mean the WWE has completely given up on them. In fact, Kennedy was given a major face push by feuding with Regal (which Regal screwed up) and Hardy has been consistently booked as being two steps away from the main event for the past 6 months. Its clear that they're still big on these two. But even if they're not ready for the WWE or WHC titles, I mentioned moving them to ECW, which right now has nobody to contend for a main event spot. Will they leave Hardy, Kennedy, Umaga, and MVP off a ppv card and have Matt Hardy vs Armando Estrada instead?
Big Show keeping the ECW title on Smackdown if he wins, I must have missed that part, but even so, why does the WWE want the ECW title on Smackdown but the US title on ECW?
And "bottom of the barrel" for Punk and Mysterio...you can't possibly say Punk is as over as Jeff Hardy is. Mysterio is a good balance, yeah, but the problem with him is that he's never been a main event guy. He won the WHC a while back due to an Eddie Guerrero death jetpack on his back, then only held it for about 3 months before going down to feud with Chavo and never reaching that peak again. Ever since then, Rey's been more along the lines of upper midcard who nobody ever expects to win the main event match as he never does. He's, in essence, Mark Henry. He'll win smaller matches constantly but when push comes to shove, he'll never win the big one. I think he'd make an EXCEPTIONAL Intercontinental champion, possibly one of the very best choices they could have for it, but you don't make someone like Mysterio be one of the people you rest a brand's shoulders on as he's barely big enough for a steel chair. Punk has supposedly been pissing off a lot of people backstage, isn't getting as much of a reaction, hasn't been winning most of his matches lately and was the last minute replacement for Hardy's Money in the Bank. If they were serious on pushing him, wouldn't he be showcasing his abilities and winning matches instead of jobbing to Miz?
Lastly, Cena's reign. True, me saying "nobody" wants to see it again is overstepping the line a little, as Cena does still have fans. But do you remember how horribly Cena was getting booed when he was reigning WWE champion for a year? He's only just now starting to win some people over, and that's most likely because he isn't being pushed as the unstoppable champion. If he becomes WWE champ and is the only draw they have, feuding with the same people as he's feuded with before (Orton, JBL) then look for the boos to come roaring back tenfold.
So while Raw and Smackdown give us a very marginal amount of new feuds that may or may not be properly executed (Cena/Jericho, HBK/Punk, Cena/Batista, Jeff/Edge, Kennedy/Edge, Undertaker/Umaga) they also give us the same old, same old (Cena/Orton, JBL/anybody, Jeff/Umaga, HHH/Umaga) or things that most likely won't matter at all (Big Show/nobody on ECW).
he didn'T say that Jeff Hardy and mr kennedy will mid carder for life, i'm just saying that it's going to take time for vince to trust them completly, Kennedy is already starting his road back to the main event spot and is move to smackdown might given him to momentum he need to get to the next level. Has for Big show bringing the belt back to smackdown, let face it with the smackdown/ecw open door policy they got going right now, if big show win the belt he probably going to wrestle mostly on ECW anyway until he lose the belt to somebody from ECW so having the belt on smackdown isn't going to be that big of a problem, same thing goes for the u.s belt, eventually, the belt will go back to smackdown. True i think that John morrison will be a career mid carder for the simple fact that he doesn't have the natural charisma that some of the other up and comers got. Sure he's decent on the mic and he one of the most talented guy on the roster but at the same time if it wasn't for Chris benoit killing himself, the guys would still be a lower card superstar and even after he won the ECW championship last year, he still look like a mid carder but since losing the belt and being team up with miz, suddenly, the guys is midly interesting and the fact is, miz and morisson are the hottest thing going on WWE.com right now so why break up a good thing. If you want John Morisson to actually make it as a main eventer, he's going to need a charisma transplant as fast because even with all the talent that he'S got, he's still boring to watch.
jpfizzle
06-24-2008, 08:41 PM
I can't speak for anybody else, but the reason I call it a botched draft is because the draft has three essential goals in mind: freshen things up, push new talent, and balance out the shows to make them more entertaining. But they screwed themselves over with some of their choices..
Likewise I can't speak for anyone else but here are my opinions on the whole thing... bareing in mind I am ridiculously in love with WWE and RAW in particular so I always try to find good even in even I know things aren't going well, however after Monday I thought what the show did more than anything was show just how much talent WWE has to offer rite now. The main event alone: Cena, Triple H, Cm Punk, Batista, Kane, Big Show, Great Khali (yeah he cant wrestle but he is a force and a great character) Jeff Hardy, Edge, Chavo, Matt Hardy, Morrison, Miz, MVP. Randy Orton whose promo was epic and has got me typed for his return was another highlight... even Mark Henry is impressing me of late... some people will disagree but to me the WWE in terms of talent is in the best state it has ever been... look at the attitude era, the majority of matches where like mosh and thrasher etc... the only reason ppl were watching was to see the main guy Stone Cold, before the draft I dont think anyone could be that main guy... things in the main event picture were stuck in a rut.
For instance, "freshen things up". A lot of people say "HHH was stale on Raw, Batista was stale on Smackdown"...but does the logo really matter when you move half the roster with them? On Raw, the entire year was dominated by feuds between Cena, HHH, Orton, JBL, Hardy, HBK, and Jericho, correct? Raw loses HHH and Hardy. That means we'll have to sit through even more Cena/Orton, Orton/HBK, Cena/JBL. That's not fresh at all. Also, we'll see Umaga continue to be squashed by Jeff Hardy and Triple H. We've seen that for the past year. Granted we have a few people that can feud that couldn't before, when you bring Batista, Mysterio, and Punk into the mix, but really, how good are they? Is Cena/Punk going to be a main event feud people care about? Does anybody REALLY want to see Kane/Mysterio? Or what about Punk/JBL? Give me a break. This year just SCREAMS that it'll be Cena holding the title for months on end, that way he can feud with Batista, JBL, Orton, Jericho, and a possible Punk heel turn, and everyone can start hating Cena when he was finally getting some pops again. As far as the midcards go for all three shows, not a single one of the midcarders moved, so we won't see any changes in "freshening things up". We'll continue not to see Elijah Burke at all, we'll have Deuce and Domino on the same show despite breaking up but having nowhere to make any names for themselves, Carlito will continue jobbing instead of going on ECW where he could make a difference, etc..
HHH wasn't stale on RAW, he is stale in general, his entrance is too long, his humour has become repetetive and he has had the same gimmick for way to long without even trying to update it, yet he was always the main guy, having him as champion on RAW did nothing for no one. He didn't need the title to be over but people like Randy Orton, Batista, Cm Punk, Kane and Cena to an extent do... I for one. Personally this year doesnt scream that Cena will hold the title for months, I peronally see another Orton era before the year is out, I see Cm Punk get a shot at it and maybe even win it.. and sure those matches you book do seem lame but what about matches like Michaels vs Punk, Punk vs Jericho, Kane vs Cena, Jericho vs Mysterio, Orton and Batista as a tag team and then opponents, Orton vs Punk... id watch those matches... Smackdown has Triple H vs Edge, a match I would love to see... and hell Edge Vs Jeff Hardy has the potential to be a modern classic!!! Edge vs Umaga and Umaga Vs Big Show...and even I forget KENNEDY!! he could have a great feud with edge or Triple H... who cares what the mid card is doing, right now the main event matches are better than they have been in ten years! IT definitly wasnt that way before the draft... ECW not getting people doesnt bother me, its a breeding ground, ECW makes it's own stars, Kofi, Evan Bourne, Morrison and the Miz are four of the best young wrestlers in the entire WWE.. die hard ECW fans should not be worried, I expect a revolt storyline where Tazz, Tommy D and perhaps a returning Heyman or RVD try and break ECW away from the WWE mould.
klunderbunker
06-24-2008, 09:47 PM
Wow these posts would make Will proud.
While I'm impressed with the draft, the title scene is just confusing now. We have the top two titles on SD, the US on ECW (which is a good idea to me as that's about what it is already), and the ECW title on Raw. With Kane being the ECW champion, I suppose that this would make him the Raw champion for now. While I definitely don't see this being the situation much longer, as either Batista or Cena will win Sunday and bring their titles home to Raw, I like where this could be going. It's definitely mixed things up for the most part. WWE has to do this once in awhile to mix stuff up, as we've seen these matches so many times. I for one will for sure be going to the Raw house show in July now, so if nothign else Vince has gotten my $20.
mrtuddy
06-25-2008, 01:54 AM
What does everyone think about the supplemental draft?
I think that Carlito will be drafted to either Smackdown or ECW.
I think Kelly Kelly might move to RAW, although I think it's possible she could go to Smackdown! and be a contender for the Diva's Championship (by the way ... whatever happened with that? It was announced like four weeks ago.)
I would love to see Snitsky go away... forever.
Chris Jericho to ECW would probably boost the ratings. And with ECW merging with RAW I could see it happening.
I could also see Deuce and Domino and the Highlanders switching... although I think Deuce and Domino split up...
MVP to RAW wouldn't be a bad move.
And Mark Henry to ECW isn't that unlikely. I see a Big Show vs. Mark Henry feud in the making
Other than that I don't really know what will happen. I'd like to see ECW get more superstars... like Charlie Haas and Super Crazy...
What do you guys think?
AnthonyMango/NoFate007
06-25-2008, 02:45 AM
Glad to hear about the supplemental draft happening, as I wasn't looking forward to seeing the exact same feuds over and over again.
I might as well not bother predicting any drafts, as everyone can see how vocal I've been about how this draft has made no sense so far lol, so I'm not expecting anything to make sense for this either. The way its been going, they'll trade the entire Smackdown and Raw rosters between each other and call it fresh just because the red is now blue and the blue is now red lol.
But, I'm a man of logic, so I'll go with what I feel is logical...
Some people that are definitely not moving: DiBiase, Rhodes, Holly, Mickie, Dreamer, Delaney, Finlay, Hornswoggle, Jamie Noble, Michelle McCool.
Some things I could see happening:
1. Cryme Tyme to Smackdown. They might want to push these guys to help with the "black audience" for when MyNetworkTV picks Smackdown up.
2. Elijah Burke to Smackdown or Raw. I wouldn't be surprised, too, if they try to repackage him as a face, since they already have Benjamin, MVP, and eventually Killings, but they could tag team him with Killings. Its confusing up until Ron debuts.
3. Kofi Kingston to Raw OR he'll stay on ECW so that when the Raw/ECW merge happens, he'll be on Raw eventually anyway.
4. Deuce and Domino being split up.
All in all though, I think ECW is the one that needs to pick people up, but what they're lacking is main event talent, and main event talent won't be traded on a supplemental draft. It'll most likely just consist of trades like "Super Crazy to ECW and Nunzio to Raw" and such.
chasingamy
06-25-2008, 11:54 AM
It literally made my day yesterday (sad I know, lol) when I heard they would have a supplemental draft. I'm really hopeful for ECW’s sake. In a perfect world, three things would happen with the supplemental draft today: (1) move some mid card guys move around as I don’t want to see the same match-ups (Finlay vs. Palumbo for example) for the next two months, (2) shuffle around the lower-card guys as they can job on any show, (3) switch around a few divas, particularly Kelly and Layla as I don’t want to see their 1000th dance-off next month.
So I'm sticking with my original draft picks for the mid-card, lower-card, and divas picks for the supplemental draft.
Val Venis: Raw won’t miss him. He can job on any brand. I say move him to Smackdown so he can be Kozlov’s next victim.
Trevor Murdoch: If he isn't going to have a long-term feud with Lance Cade, move Murdoch to Smackdown and he can form a new ‘rednecks’ tag team with Jimmy Wang Yang once he returns from his suspension.
John Morrison: Morrison’s a star in the waiting. He’s already been ECW champ and the US title isn’t enough motivation to keep him on the brand. I think he’s got a better show of ‘breaking through’ (pun intended) on Raw.
Elijah Burke: He’s wrestled just about everyone there is on ECW and they haven’t used him in forever. I’d like to see him get a mid-card push and eventual IC run.
Chuck Palumbo: He needs a fresh start as he’s wrestled most everyone on Smackdown/ECW.
Kelly Kelly: She’s too over to remain on ECW and Vince is big on her . Plus with the upcoming pairing of Raw and ECW, she could still wrestle (or dance as the case may be, lol) on both shows.
Carlito: Maybe a switch to a different brand and a push will help Carlito find some passion and develop consistency in his matches. I see him going to the 3rd rate show…if for no other reason than punishment for running his mouth so much (sad but true).
Super Crazy: Raw won’t miss him either. He can job on any brand. I think he’d fit in nicely on ECW with the likes of Bourne, Kofi, Delaney, etc.
Shannon Moore: He’s not doing anything on Smackdown and he’d fit in well the other ‘cruisers’ over on ECW.
Jillian Hall: She needs a fresh start and ECW needs divas. Plus with the upcoming pairing of Raw and ECW, she could still wrestle on both shows.
E123Omega
06-26-2008, 06:16 PM
The draft was insane! But it makes some of the matches that are sceduled for Night of Champions obvisius who is going to win.
Matt Hardy moving to ECW will most likely result in him losing the US championship to Chavo to keep it as a Smackdown exclusive. Why make the US title an ECW exclusive? That's retarded.
Kane moving to Raw will most likely result in him losing the ECW championship to Big Show to keep it as a ECW exclusive. The ECW title being an Raw exclusive? I wouldn't call it the ECW title then.
Batista moving to Raw. This is tricky, there are several things that the WWE can do with the head titles;
1. Make Edge lose to Batista resulting in the World Heavyweight Championship, making the World Heavyweight Championship a Raw exclusive.
2. Make HHH lose to Cena resulting in the WWE Championship staying a Raw exclusive.
I honestly hope the first option happens. I don't want to see Cena as the WWE champion again, but since they're keeping the Spinner Belt design, he prolly will win it this Sunday as the title is more fitting for him.
Now, Night of Champions might actually be worth seeing.
Oh god, they even did a supplemental draft.
Kofi Kingston drafted to Raw from ECW.
Layla drafted to Raw from ECW.
Carlito drafted to Smackdown from Raw.
Finlay drafted to ECW from Smackdown.
Shelton Benjamin drafted to Smackdown from ECW.
Maria drafted to Smackdown from Raw.
Matt Striker drafted to Raw from ECW.
Brian Kendrick drafted to Raw from Smackdown.
Super Crazy drafted to ECW from Raw.
Chuck Palumbo drafted to Raw from Smackdown.
Hornswoggle drafted to ECW from Smackdown.
Deuce drafted to Raw from Smackdown.
DH Smith drafted to Smackdown from Raw.
Big Daddy V drafted to Smackdown from ECW.
Trevor Murdoch drafted to Smackdown from Raw.
Jamie Noble drafted to Raw from Smackdown.
Mark Henry drafted to ECW from Smackdown.
Also, the match for the ECW championship at Night of Champions is now a Triple Threat match.
Kane vs Big Show vs Mark Henry
Oh wow. I guess the ECW title's goin to Mark Henry if they wanna keep it ECW exclusive.
therockyfan316
06-26-2008, 07:33 PM
ohhhhhhh man did smackdown win or what? i think SD is hands down the best show now, their mid-card is insane, their ME has prolly the three best main eventers in trips edge and taker (at least for the time being), jr and mick foley announcing, hornswaggle is gone...i am really happy now with these moves
lets just take a look at their mid card: hardy carlito shelton umaga kennedy mvp. this could resurrect all of their careers (besides jeff and umaga who were already doing good)...the fueds between these guys could be awesome
lets see whos gone:
batista- i liked him but he basically did everything he could on SD, was in basically every PPV main event fighting for the title and thats the part about him i didnt like
mysterio- i liked him as well but his best years are behind him, unless he magically lost a lot of weight and his knees were replaced
palumbo- glad hes gone
hornswaggle- glad hes gone
matt and finlay were also in a rut and are probably better off main eventing as veterans on another show, especially since ECW lost kofi and shelton
all in all the draft was awesome in my book
hhhfan14
06-28-2008, 10:19 AM
Ok, maybe it may just be becuse of the fact that i am a Die hard raw fan and dont really care to watch ecw or smackdown becuse of pre-draft rosters, but to me Vince has just really screwed the wwe harder than it has ever been hit before, splitting good ole jr and king, acting like we are gonna get the hardys back into a stable on smackdown, and then throwin matt on ecw, splittin kendrick and london, which just kiiled both careers, throwin hhh on smackdown, revisting the oh no, someone tried to kill vince who did it???, this is just extremely stupid and this draft in my opionion has put another bullet in the wwes chest.
crymetyme
06-30-2008, 01:58 AM
They may be giving superstars like Kofi and even mark henry a chance with the draft, but the draft will soon prove to be a bad thing. Why is this? lets see...all upper mid-card faces to raw (Batista, Mysterio, Punk, Kane, Kofi) ....all upper mid-card heels to smackdown (Carlito, Kennedy, Benjamin).... and all rejects to and staying on ECW (Supercrazy, Hornswoggle, Henry,). In addition to the shortage of face/heel fueds that are created by this draft the tag team division really took yet another bullet in the division of london and kendrick. ECW was the biggest loser of all, they may have gained a title, but they lost their top 4 superstars (not including John Morrison) in Punk, Kane, Kofi, and Benjamin and only have Matt Hardy to show for it.
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