The Rock: His future in wrestling (if any) [Archive]

NYSandman

11-26-2007, 08:21 PM

I find myself missing the Rock. When the Rock first debuted, I thought he would be a flash in the pants, like everyone else. His gimmick sucked, and I thought he would just be another second or third generation guy who thought they could make it on reputation alone.

When he morphed into the Rock, I became a mark instantly. The Rock is a good wrestler, but I have always been a promo guy, and can look past a mediocre in-ring performance if the guy can make me laugh or piss me off.

Rock is, without a doubt in my mind, one of the best promo guys of all time. He had a knack for saying just the right thing at just the right time, and his facial expressions are also top-notch.

Don't get me wrong, the man can wrestle, too, but I tend to look at personality.

Now, this great wrestler is making movies, most of which were okay, but not great, IMO.

Do you think Rock will ever return full time? I have to say that I find it surprising how Rock totally abandoned wrestling. I can understand getting paid just as well to make movies, while not having to deal with constantly being on the road, getting your ass beat, etc. He is making great money, and probably doesn't have to do as much.

Then again, acting can be a hard, HARD job, with long days and multiple shoots of one 10 second scene.

I don't know if WWE has approached Rock and he has refused, or if the Rock himself just doesn't want to do it anymore.

I am not taking sides. But, if the Rock has CHOSEN to not address wrestling fans, then that is a damn shame, because one day his career will dry up. He is not a top caliber actor and was introduced to the movie world in the wrong way. If he had started along side a few great actors, it might have been fine. But he was cast as the star from the beginning, and while I liked some of his movies, I liked him better as a wrestler.

I have no doubt Vince would give Rock another go if his move career dried up. But, would we as fans, give him another shot.

I would, because he is that damn good.

Dgenerationx528

11-26-2007, 08:33 PM

The Rock is never coming back to wrestling. He will continue making movies because that is a more profitable profession for him. Unless Vince McMahon gets very desperate and offers him an unreasonable amount of money to sign with WWE, don't expect Dwayne Johnson to ever return to pro wrestling.

MightyFlameboy

11-26-2007, 09:50 PM

I've recently juz watched some old PPVs again, of the Rock challenging Booker T for the WCW Title at Summerslam at the pinnacle of the invasion angle. The Rock cut a promo saying "The Rock is born in WWF. He'll never leave the WWF".

It's so ironic now that the wrestler who got me interested in WWE and sports entertainment in the first place has left the business for good so prematurely. It may sound selfish, but everyone's human, and they'll need to work the best deal out for themselves in order for them to live a better life. And for now, it's definitely the movies for the Rock.

U may watch his movies and think 'crap' or 'B-grade', but the fact is his pocket is getting loaded much more than when he's in WWE, and that is all that matters from a professional business point of view.

Heck, actually, I think he may have picked up his acting skills after seeing the Game Plan. I thought it was the run-of-mill crappy Disney wholesome family movie, but the Rock's charisma translated well into the movie, probably due to the fact he's portraying a character embracing his first love which is football.

I'm crossing my fingers and hope he'll make a few more Wrestlemania appearances, even in a non-wrestling capacity.

Sicko

11-26-2007, 10:44 PM

WHO Don't miss The Rock, even if you hated him and booed him toward the end of his wrestling career he is missed

he is getting some good acting Roles, Game Plan did well, he is also in that Get Smart movie as well, sucks to say but I don't think he is ever coming back full time plus he is actually a good actor, it is not like he is as bad as Hogan was and making corny movies like Hogan did, WWE has lost a great one to Hollywood for the first time

would be a nice if he showed up and suprise the fans one day

Esteban Ochocinco

11-26-2007, 10:50 PM

I wouldn't say never now though. The Writer's Strike in Hollywood is going to start effecting things real soon. No Writer's, no movies, it's plain and simple as day. If this strike goes on for a decent amount of time, and the last one went on for the better part of a year, movie scripts begin to dry up, and wallah, people need money.

Now I'm not saying the Rock is hurting for money, I'm sure he's not a Konnan or Ric Flair with regards to his finances, but you never know. A guy like that might get the itch if he ends up sitting around doing nothing for a few months. What better way to kill time then to lace the boots up.

Again, it's a long shot, but with the situation in Hollywood right now, you never know.

ABS

11-27-2007, 12:19 PM

Who doesn't miss The Rock I surley do...but what pissed me off is he kind of sold out FAST , I remeber when he did a promo the day after Steve Austin walked out on us how he was born for this business , how he has WWE in his blood , how he would never quit this company and how who didi't repect it can get the F out , I must say , he followed his own advice.

I used to love the rock , I was huge rocky fan up until a coupl months ago I realized he Sold us , we don't mean shit to him anymore. Yes I would love to see The rock again becuase as Nysandman said he's that damn good. But I would look at him from a diffrent point of view. And don't expect him to come un-less his Hollywood career goes down the Drain.

jamesjd66

11-27-2007, 01:38 PM

I miss him too. *Tear* I honestly dont think he's coming back though. His movies do well, some very well even if most are kids movies revolving around football one way or another. If he starts bombing hard there's a shot. I don't see someone in his shoes ever wanting to go back to a road schedule that's necessary to be a wrestler.

He also is getting divorced from his wife right now and probably getting all sorts of strange Hollywood ass.

Hollywood Ass> Life on the road as a WWE wrestler

midgensa

11-28-2007, 01:17 AM

This is just a wishful thinking thread.
I don't think it is impossible that he comes back for a one shot deal or something for a WM, but there is NO chance of him making a full-time return.
Dwayne Johnson makes WAY more money than The Rock ever did. He pulled in $12M for The Rundown, $15M for Walking Tall, in the area of $5M for Doom, Be Cool and the Scorpion King and is probably pulling in the area of $10M+ for The Game Plan. Quick math ... he has already made over $75M in movies ... probably more than in his wrestling days combined.
I do think that there is probably nothing like hearing your music hit and walking out to a crowd that goes nuts like that, so a one-shot deal ... MAYBE ... but a full time return ... that will never be in The Rock's thoughts.

FoleyIsGod

11-28-2007, 04:51 AM

The Rock did everything he could in the world of wrestling. He won titles, made huge money for himself and the company, had great matches with everyone from Stone Cold to Hulk Hogan. He had beat all that there was to beat.

Coming back would be an anti climax as we would all be expecting more from the Rock. I doubt he can top himself after what he did in the early part of this centary.

Its a bit like watching people take sick bumps off the Cell or in ladder matches. My mind goes back to when they first were made popular (THAT F0oley cell bump, Hardys tlc matches in 1999) If people kept expecting Holy Shit moments like those every week, they would become boring and stale or worse, people will end up dying as the risks get dangerously close to the edge.

Me personally, I have seen the best Wrestling has to offer, starting from 1988 up until the present day. Almost 20 damn years of wrestling :p

donutman

11-28-2007, 09:50 AM

Sparky

11-28-2007, 09:58 AM

i think he might come back one day even if its only for a ppv match becouse i dont think there would be any better feeling then walking out to the arena and getting cheered the way someone like the rock would. and deep down he has to be missing that, becouse there is no way the movie buisness would be able to get more people cheering for him at somthing like a movie premier then the WWE fans would give him at a major ppv like Wrestlemania

Loveless Chulita

11-28-2007, 10:04 AM

I would love to see The Rock make a return but I don't see him making a return to wrestling. I see The Rock showing up at an event and all of a sudden the whole "Do you smelll...." music comes on and the crowd plus me would lose their minds, lol.
But of course it won't happen anytime soon.
The Rock is not a stupid man, acting was a passion that he found and loved and wrestling just wasn't doing it for him anymore.
I don't think he "sold out" he had to do what was best for him and maybe he got burnt out from his job of taking bumps day in and day out.

rajasalshi

11-29-2007, 06:37 AM

But The Rock has indeed been contacted the WWE for the 15th anniversary special raw edition! But i hope he makes a live appearance and not just a titantron segment like he did last time.

Bottom_Line

11-29-2007, 02:14 PM

I hope on the anniversary show Rock gets to do a segment with Santino, or Chris Jericho. Some of his funnier segments were Rock and Jericho going back and forth, or else the two of them working someone over.

RAW Is Jericho

12-01-2007, 10:10 PM

I would love to see The Rock come back but sense he's making way more money acting there is pretty much no chance he will. I only see him making special apperences on Raw or maybe WrestleMania. He won't get hurt making movies either so there's another reason why he most likely won't be coming back to WWE.

JoeyImage

12-02-2007, 12:11 AM

lol "flash in the pants" ? It's "flash in the pan". I miss Rock too, but he won't be back to fulltime wrestling. He's not even known as The Rock anymore.

nygiants92

12-02-2007, 09:05 PM

Why come back? He's making a buttload more money than he ever did wrestling, without all that hard work. Even with the writer's strike, I'm sure he rather relax and wait for a script than to put on the boots and go on the road 24/7. The Rock is on the verge of becoming the next big action star, he doesn't need wrestling anymore.

If it wasn't for Rock excelling in the WWE for as long as he did, he would of never seen the bright lights of Hollywood, and that's a fact.

As for him returning, I don't see it happening myself either, as he has made the transition from sports entertainment, to being an actor quite well (at least to me, anyway). It's really hard to say of how everyone will react, because everyone has their own opinion, but me personally, I think a comeback for a storyline leading up to the next Wrestlemania seems like the way I'd go for a Rock return.

Then again, most other people will argue with this statement:
"Vince shouldn't bring back guys from the Attitude Era. He should focus more on the talent that he has now"

This is very true, but we all know Vince is mostly all about the ratings, and what's going to draw him the most money. Vince wants money and ratings, and The Rock most likely wants to promote his movies and all, and he can give the fans something extra by a short return to the ring.

This is all really a "what if" type of a situation here, but I'd really go with this idea, but that's just me.

takerfan120

12-03-2007, 01:06 AM

I hope the rock doesn't come back I do not like the fact that he sold the wwe fans out. He said he was born in the wwf and would never leave the wwf, but he is like the child and wwe is the parent and in the rocks mind it is time for the wwe parent to go to the retirement home. He may comeback for one time things like birthdays, but it will have to make him a lot of money to do so and his matches if he would consider doing such a thing again would not be as good because his heart would not be in them

a7xoff

12-03-2007, 01:24 PM

I think the rock is done being a full time wrestler. I'm sure we'll see him a few times here in there for those random promos and that 1 more match type deal. For the most part though I think he's pretty much done with wrestling. I mean the man has really done a great job in the movie industry, and really has no reason to come back to wrestling. Even if he came back, what has he not done already? He's won the titles, he's feuded with all the big guns. There's nothing left for the man to do in the buisness, but IMO he's more then welcome to appear when he wants... Like possibly Raw's 15th anniversery?

keeffecanflyit

12-04-2007, 07:47 AM

" Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson isn't scheduled to be appearing on next week's three-hour 15th Raw anniversary special on the USA Network. There were earlier reports stating that WWE had contacted Johnson about appearing on the show. Plans can always change, but as of now he isn't scheduled. "
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Derf

12-04-2007, 08:27 AM

With the way The Rock's career is going, he'll never return full time, and it don't seem he's to interested in returning part time. To be honest, I see the next time Rockie returns to the ring will be at Wrestlemania 26 or higher. He'll likely get inducted into the HOF withen the next 5 years or so, and will make his last apearence in some kind of promo before leaving for good. Thats my guess, anyways...

acmilan2005_01

12-04-2007, 09:27 AM

man, the rock gave us like 5 of the best years in the history of wrestling (1997-2002). compare wwf during 1997-2002 with 2002-2007 ... the last 5 years have been the same thing repeated over + over again, 97-02 was when EVERYTHING was just fresh new + inventive. anyways ...

nowadays "dwayne johnson" is a c-grade actor in c-grade movies, he'll never be as big as he was mainstream wise again because no-one knows who he really is anymore. the reason why he was so big was because he was THE ROCK not dwayne johnson, for christ sake.

i appreciate the rock for everything that he gave us back in the day, hes a wrestling legend + deserves a place in the hall of fame for sure (which he'd probably refuse to do too!), but surely he OWES it to the wwe to at least appear live to do a promo - its raw's 15th anniversary for christ sake. but then again, he did help make raw insanely popular with the mainstream. surely, if hes away making a movie, then fair enough cant blame him, but if he doesnt appear because hes "above" wrestling + doesnt wanna associate with it anymore, then thats f*cked up. hes sh*ttin on his father + grandfathers legacy imo. he owes it to vince + every single wrestling fan who cheered + bought his merchandise back in the day + made him what he is today

beetle717

12-07-2007, 01:02 PM

kabby420

12-07-2007, 02:46 PM

o.k first of all i don't get it, this post makes it on the site and it's not considered spamming, the rock isn't even the rock anymore! he's just dwayne johnson, he will never come back to wrestling, he wants nothing to do with it, and that's the bottom line. the final clue that he won't EVER be returning is he is no longer using his wwe nick name he has completely blown off wwe and it's fans. So why is this post even on this site! HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WRESTLING!!!!!!!!!!!! he is not even gunna be on raw for teh anniversary show, he won't even do a video spot! sure wwe would be great if he returned, but he probly wouldn't have it anymore, it would take a long time for him to get back into his groove, i mean look at austin, he sucks now, he's boring, and he probly can't wrestle for shit anymore, all he can do is play to the crowd with his stupid "WHAT!!!!???" TALK THE SAME OLD RECYCLED CRAP!!!!!! do a stupid ass stunner and that's it. It's better that the rock doesn't return, that way we can all remember him as the great one, not like stone cold, who really has lost respect from me. And if i recall the crowd on teh last raw that he was on, wasn't that hot for him! when he came out in teh beer truck, it was like people didn't really care, and while he was on teh mic people weren't even doing the "WHAT?!?!?!" THE ONLY LEGEND TO PULL OFF A SUCCESSFUL RUN IN THE INDUSTRY IN MY OPINION IS FLAIR! that guy no matter what entertains, and he knows what he's good at, all these wrestlers making movies, ({or at least trying to) or joining rockbands, or getting reality t.v shows, they all suck at what brought them to the dance...WRESTLING! WWE doesn't need these old fart bags commin back, they need fresh talent and they need to develope. Who cares if the rock comes back, he'll just ruin his career if he did, because he isn't the same guy anymore. I'm sure the rock would be the first person to tell u that.

Batistabomb10

12-08-2007, 10:53 AM

The Rock was and will always be the TRUE Peoples' Champ! I would LOVE to see the Rock return to wrestling, but I do not think it'll happen. Despite the fact that he is a third generation superstar and the best damn wrestler ever, he went on national television and said he was done with professional wrestling. It hurts for me to admit that, because I still hold onto some faint hope that one day he will return, but he is making more money acting than he was in wrestling, and not only that, but the schedule is not as rough with all of the traveling, and he has less chance of getting injured. Call me crazy, but he is probably making the right decision from a professional/personal standpoint.

KillerKev09

12-18-2007, 09:31 PM

Italian MVP

12-18-2007, 09:53 PM

Its kind of dumb how The Rock doesnt even care about wrestling fans anymore. If it werent for wrestling fans he wouldnt be where is is today. Look at Stone Cold he may not wrestle anymore but at least he still comes and entertains the fans every now and then. I believe The Rock shouldnt get inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. He just doesnt have enough passion for the business.

Yeh but the Rock has a busier movie schedule the Austin. Austin has only done one movie wheras the Rock is doing heaps of them and once he finishes one movie he is already starting on the next. And plus, he gets more money and has more time with his family when he isnt doing movies. Im sure if the rock wasnt doing any movies he would pay at least one visit to WWE, and witht the writers strike, he might.

atlmixboy

12-18-2007, 10:05 PM

I wish that was true that he was making a movie at the time but supposedly the reason he didnt show up on the anniversary show is because he was on "public vacation". It sounds like he was not even making a movie at the time and he just did not want to show up. I remember earlier this year when he did that suprise video promo for the build of the Donald Trump/ Vince McMahon earlier this year I read he originally did not want to do that either but Brian Gerwitz convinced him to do it.

ABS

12-19-2007, 04:32 PM

Please people don't get compare Austin to Rock. Yes Austin doesn't make much movies but when ever he had the chance to he an appearence and Austin is a guy who had a life threatninh neck injury and continued and went on and kept WWE alive , bust his 2 knees until he couldnt take it anymore. After this no-show for Anniversary show i lost me respect for Rocky. He's just too cocky and thinking hes to big for the comapny at the moment. Spend time with Family ? Hell he has his whole life to do it since he doesn't want to do anythign with Wrestling m couldnt he just spare 5 min to JUST a Titron promo ? He just moved on and so should we. He fullfilled all his Promises well theres one he didn't , it's not really a promise but...just watch and ull understand :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvul7IZ0j7M

Well personnaly Im a huge Rock fan but Im just starting to dislike him. If he is the peoples champ then he will do anythignt to make one more appearence.

JustBringIt

12-19-2007, 05:21 PM

the rock might once in a blue moon come back for a hype promo etc.. but never full time, its not that he has forgotten his roots but there is more money involved in movie business and the insurance the wrestlers need in case they get injured on the job in a match is off the roof. so the rock went to the safe part and started doing movies, will he come back we don't know but leaving the wwe for lets say $500,000 more a year i wouldn't do that he made at least close to a mil in wrestling what difference would it make.

LMaruko

12-19-2007, 11:00 PM

The Rock has a 99.9% chance that he will never.... EEEEEEEVER return to wrestling. AGAIN! He's found his true calling, as he has put it himself, and he has even preferred to drop "The Rock" as part of his name.

The Rock probably has some sort of pension from Vince McMahon, and along with his two-or-three times a year to act and get big bucks, he's probably set for the rest of his life. Later on, he'll show up again as a true "legend," be inducted into the WWE Hall Of Fame, and make random appearances for money. That's what all actors/actresses do when they are short on dough. Look at Gary Coleman. 1-800 Cash Call, people!!

So, for the future of Dwayne Johnson, it'll be similar to Bret Hart's career, with the exception that Johnson left on good terms.

starryangel05

12-25-2007, 12:07 AM

I miss The Rock SO MUCH!!!!!!!!! The Rock needs to come back to the WWE (even tho I know it'll never happen :( ) The WWE and the WWE fans are what made Rock famous, and it is his true home. The blood of the WWE runs through his veins, and Rock should be aware of that. He should do the right thing and come back to the WWE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tidus21

12-27-2007, 10:54 AM

The Rock did it all, faced the top names of the business and won every title belt within the WWE. Honestly after that there really wasnt anything left for him to do. One could say he "sold out" i say he knew when it was time to "retire" unlike those around him who didnt know when to stop and are hurting from those decisions today. The Rock also had what many didnt which was the charisma and looks for hollywood, while he did leave in a few years. We should be happy for him rather than be angry and saying he sold out because he found something to do in an entertaining way besides wrestling.

Undoubtably he is greatful for what the WWE and wrestling has done for him or he wouldnt have done that Promo for Wrestlemania promoting Vince vs. Trump match. Never say Never with the wrestling business, one day he will get the itch to at least step in one more time. The Rock is a future HOF wrestler.

slimmshady

12-29-2007, 11:46 AM

Esteban Ochocinco

12-29-2007, 11:54 AM

I miss the guy too but you've got to face the fact that he's not going to put his wrestling attire on again. The thing that annoys me about Dwayne Johnson is that he chose to make his acting life completely overshadow his wresting career. Fare enough that the guy doesn't want to wrestle anymore but he doesn't even want to show up at any special occasions like the 15th raw anniversary. But the thing that hurts me the most was that he wasn't even involved in a video or live tribute to Eddie Guerrero.

But this all goes back to the Rock already paying his dues in the business. He has nothing to gain by coming back for one shot appearances. He already was back this year with the Umaga/Lashley feud. Honestly, people just need to let the Rock go. How do you know that Dwayne Johnson doesn't want to be remembered as an actor? or how about a national champion at the University of Miami? Why as wrestling fans do we assume the man Dwayne Johnson wants to be remembered as a wrestler?

And as far at the Guerrero thing goes, they spent minimal time together in the WWE. The Rock was gone full time after 2001, and Guerrero was fired and rehired for his drug use. The Guerrero tribute show was mainly with guys that went up and down the road with the man. The Rock was in the WWE when Owen died, and they went up and down the road together, completely different situation.

ATTITUDEERA4EVER

01-12-2008, 09:23 PM

maybe if he does decide to come back...but he's gonna have to gain some pounds and work out, because he's pretty small now compared to how he was before.

Maybe he will make a promo, insulting Cena (praying for that) or somebody. Not likely he'll wrestle.

Maybe he just doesn't want to be involved in the stupid storylines?

It could also be that he doesn't want to make too many "returns." It would get kinda lame, maybe he's looking for a HUGE "return."

Many possibilities.

Tomko

01-12-2008, 09:33 PM

Guys you will never EEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR see the Rock on any WWE programming, a-gain. Only under 2 conditions would he ever return...

1. To cut a promo like he did before WM 23 with Trump-McMahon
2. His movies fail and no one takes him for a cast member anymore.

And since no. 2 most likely won't happen, I only expect to see him cut a promo. If he does return it would be a big shock.

Nin

01-13-2008, 12:03 PM

He will never return in a wrestling role. Not a chance in hell.
I dont see his film career being a long-term thing and he may be tempted to make the occasional appearance in the WWE but that'll be it. These days he looks like someone stuck him in the washing machine on too high a heat.

Mike1517r

01-13-2008, 10:32 PM

Sadly The Rock will never return to compete in the WWE ever again. The simple fact is that he can make way more money in the movie business than in wrestling and he is a great actor. There will never be a time were nobody wants him in there movies and if there is he will be old and no longer able to wrestle. I do expect to see him at the Hall of Fame, inducting his father eventually, and maybe do a random promo, but he will never wrestle again.

figure4

01-29-2008, 10:47 PM

Ok, I'm tired of reading the posts that say "The Rock sold out". Rock didn't sell out. He made a business decision, like mostly anybody would do, and decided to take another job. That is not selling out. That is simply moving on with your life.

Rock doesn't owe WWE anything. They made him a star, sure, but he returned the favor by gaving the company everything he had for the duration of his contract. He was great on the mic, got the crowd going, put people over in the ring, strayed away from backstage politics, made WWE a buttload of money, and cemented his legacy in only about six, seven years. Honestly, there was nothing left for The Rock to accomplish in WWE. Nothing. What else was there for him to do? The people were even tired of The Rock around 2001, 2002, as he started to get just as many boos as he did cheers, whether he was face or heel!

Secondly, his films have made a lot of money. Whether many of them have been that good is up to the critics to decide (I personally have enjoyed most of them), but The Rock has proven to be a bankable movie star, in more than just action films. So why would he quit this job to revert back to his old one, if he's doing so well?

Come on people. Even if his film career dries up, he's a smart man, and he'll surely find something to do to entertain his time. But the bottom line is that we have to realize that he has moved on with his life, and as fans of his (I'm the biggest!), we should respect that and hope for the best for him. Still, you can never say never in WWE. WrestleMania is in his home state this year so you never know...

Freedom 35

01-29-2008, 11:12 PM

I agree for the most part that I cant exactly fault the Rock for making this decision but come on now guys doesnt this seem a little bogus? look at what the WWE did for him they made him anything they took Dwayne Johnson and made him a superstar and what does he do? takes the fame and runs with it, while this is a smart buisness move my problem with it is that it almost seems like hes currently trying to distance himself from the WWE who if it werent for them he wouldnt be the movie star he is today. Me personally am not much of a fan of the Rock but for all you Rock fans out there dont you think he should appear live at least once at one more WWE event? for all they did for each other? while I dont think he owes it to the fans, I don't think its unreasonable for the fans to expect something in form of an appearence out of him.

figure4

01-29-2008, 11:25 PM

^^Yea, it would be nice to see The Rock re-appear on WWE programming, but seriously, what's the point? There's no point at all. Just like when Stone Cold makes random appearances now...there's no point at all. Mick Foley, no point. Fans don't even pop for those guys, and they're legends! Hogan appeared at the RAW 15th anniversity and didn't even get a huge pop. So, it would be great to see, but WWE needs to keep its focus on its current crop of talent, and only force the nostalgia on special occasions.

Lil Wes

01-30-2008, 01:01 AM

^^Yea, it would be nice to see The Rock re-appear on WWE programming, but seriously, what's the point?

For an appearance. An occasional promo, it wouldn't hurt for him to make either one. The Rock is a selfish dick. The WWE, The fans made the Rock what he is in Hollywood. He should at least have enough respect to make a few appearances here and there.

Plus WWE shows are so shit, it would be a refreshment to see The Great One in the ring yet again. Hell he should even wrestle another match or two, EVolution vs Rock & Sock....Wow...What a last match...:rolleyes:

Just like when Stone Cold makes random appearances now...there's no point at all.

I can tell you that when Austin makes those short appearances they are always the best part of any show.

Plus, Anniversary show, They pushed a Stone Cold appearance hard and the show got a high rating. Austin = Ratings.

Mick Foley, no point.

His surprise appearances are stale, he's been doing them since 2003.

Fans don't even pop for those guys, and they're legends!

Hahahahaahahahahahahahaah!

Tell me you did not just say fans don't pop for Austin? Who got the loudest ovation at SummerSlam and SNME? Austin. He always has loud ovations.

Hogan appeared at the RAW 15th anniversary and didn't even get a huge pop.

Lolz, Pop of the night.

So, it would be great to see, but WWE needs to keep its focus on its current crop of talent, and only force the nostalgia on special occasions.

That's the problem. WWE doesn't have any true top talent, when these guys come in for their appearances, you automatically know and can tell "Wow these guys are so much better than what we have now".

Even if your a young fan. Rock and Austin will always capture your attention. That's why when Austin appears it's always easily segment of the night. As for "forcing" it on special occasions, That's my problem with Rock, Why can't he show up for a short segment on a "special occasion" for the company that made him what he is today? The millions and millions of fans. It's shit really. And seriously stop with your bashing about "working on talent they have now". There isn't any talent on the roster. Not one guy. That even compares to these two. Tell me what would you rather see...

A)a fucking pointless McMahon/Hornswoggle segment, or B) a classic Rock promo talking down on some jabroni?

Choice B please Wes. Just too bad he's too much of a dick to answer your call.

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01-30-2008, 05:06 PM

I admit to missing The Rock, with his amazing promos, and especially ripping into Coach. Returning to WWE full time would be the dream of a madman at this point thanks to his busy schedule in Hollywood, and the best he can do is make random appearances like Stone Cold and Foley do. I wouldn't mind seeing Rock every now and then, but after he past up going to the Raw 15th Anniversary, I don't think Rock will ever appear in a WWE ring again, sadly. And even though he'll retire from filming eventually, I wouldn't want a 70 year old Rock on screen. I REALLY don't think we need another Bob Backlund.

figure4

01-30-2008, 09:23 PM

WWE made The Rock what he was from 1996-2003/4. Sure, he will probably always be remembered as a wrestler, but his films are not making all this money because only wrestling fans are going to see them. For the last time, Rock doesn't owe WWE anything. He's paid his dues. Excuse him for wanting to move on with his life. It doesn't make him a "dick" to want to be remembered as more than a jock. Remember, he didn't grow up wanting to be a wrestler. Sure, the business was in his blood, but he only became a wrestler because his football career fizzled. He did all that he can do in wrestling. Period. So now he is trying to do all that he can in the realm of acting. Wrestling is something that we all know and love, IWC, but it is a business and it is a job. The Rock enjoyed some great times in wrestling. But he has moved on. IT IS 2008. We need to move on, too.

Lil Wes

01-30-2008, 09:35 PM

WWE made The Rock what he was from 1996-2003/4

Damn right they did. Along with all of his fans.

Sure, he will probably always be remembered as a wrestler,

He will. I haven't see a Rock film that is worth a piss. He'll never win an oscar as a movie star.

For the last time, Rock doesn't owe WWE anything.

No he doesn't. But he doesn't have to be a dick does he? Would it really hurt Rock to make some appearances on WWE programming? No.

Hogan, Austin and Foley do it all of the time.

It doesn't make him a "dick" to want to be remembered as more than a jock.

He'll always be remembered as a wrestler. Name me one Rock movie that was worth two shits.

You can't. On the other hand I can name you about 10 matches that were easily.

The rest of your post was pretty much a bunch of letters put into a sentence so I didn't respond. I can't help but noticed you completely ignored my previous post and basically said the same thing you said before over again.

figure4

01-30-2008, 10:03 PM

^^Well that post wasn't directly meant as a response to you, or else I would have quoted it in my response. I only tackled your calling him a "dick".

As far as Rock's movies, The Rundown, Walking Tall, Gridiron Gang and The Game Plan were pretty good. Go hit Blockbuster, buddy.

Austin and Foley are still under contract with WWE. Plus, they have no talent other than wrestling (that they have seriously pursued, besides movies/books, both of which were distributed through WWE), so they need to make appearances on WWE.

The Rock doesn't need WWE to make people go see his movies. And they don't need to worry about The Rock. That's why both parties continue to see success despite not being affiliated with eachother.

And lastly, Hogan, on the other hand only shows up when he needs a payday. His last appearance at RAW 15th anniversary was simply to promote American Gladiators. Other than that, it was pointless.

The Rock would be a sell-out if he jumped to TNA or badmouthed WWE in public, like Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar have done. He has done none of the above.

brudog56

02-02-2008, 11:28 AM

I miss The Rock too, but if he has any sense, he'll never return to wrestling.

I think he's currently at the point where Hollywood is just starting to see him as an actor instead of a"wrestler turned actor". He hasn't yet been offered many good parts, but he's been better than OK in every movie he's been in. I think he just needs that one break-out role to really make his bones as a leading man.

As a WWE Superstar, though, The Rock isn't The Rock anymore. Remember seeing him on McMahon appreciation night? He was a shadow of his former self as far as his promo was concerned.

The Rock has moved on, and we should too.

TimmyTallsoxx

02-02-2008, 11:56 PM

WOW did someone say the rock has decent movies? The rundown was a cheap action film with boring comedy, The grid iron gang was his best film. The Rock is always gonna be my fave wrestler. You may not notice but he was a BIG impact for the business. Where do you think kennedy got his ideas from being this cocky amazing promo guy. He MADE the tons of names like Jabroni,roodypoo candyass,smackdown,had great mic skills. Also who would cena have to copy?? What is the 5 knuckle shuffle? A BLATANT ripoff of the most electrifying move in sports entertainment.

Sure his movies are piss poor but the guy doesnt have to go back to where he started, hes making great money in hollywood and probally gets a little more time with the family including his ugly wife. This year there was a rumour that the Great One was FINALLY... make his return and thats the only reason i got back into it and i havent seen him since which pisses me off.

Wwe would be great to have someone of his stature in the ring again which i also believe impossible there is to big of a whole with him gone and now we have to watch a show where IMO the midcarders are the entertaining point seems like Cena and HHH run todays shows. I could sit and enjoy promos of the rocks for hours than have to watch a prune face and a wanksta on my tv so im glad there was an alt route there was MR. Kennedy and MVP also Santino Marella.

Kcorthe

02-03-2008, 02:01 AM

Okay.

The Rock came to the WWE in late 1996.
By 1998, The Rock was a true star, and by the end of 98/early 99, Rock was one of the most popular wrestlers in the world.

By 2000, The Rock was on top of the world, undoubtedly. As far as mainstream and popularity goes, at least.

By April 2001, which is when The Rock took his first extended break for a movie, The Rock was one of the most recognizable entertainers in the entire world.

At this point, in mid-2001, The Rock NEVER had to come back. He was set for life. In 2001, The Rock could have easily retired from pro wrestling and been a full-time movie star like he is now. Can anyone really argue that? The Rock never had to come back at all, because he had already made a name for himself.

BUT:

The Rock returns:
July 2001 - April 2002, with a full-time schedule.
June 2002 - August 2002
January 2003 - April 2003
March 2004
With at least a dozen random appearances between 2002 and 2004.

So...can anyone truly, honestly say that The Rock hasn't given back to the WWE and all of his wrestling fans?

What a ridiculous accusation. The Rock came back several, several times when he DID NOT NEED TO ONE TIME. How can anybody argue that point?

Its mighty selfish and judgmental of us to shit all over The Rock because he has moved onto another direction in his life. He found a new passion, so what? He gave the WWE and its fans so much, and even after he became a leading man in Hollywood, he STILL came back several times, for weeks or even months at a time. So now, The Rock's last LIVE WWE appearance was in August of 2004...since then, he has decided to concentrate 100-percent on his acting career. So what?

Anyone who clams The Rock is " A SEL-FISH ASSHOLE BCUZ HE NEVVER CUMZ BACK 4 HIS FANZ," should really think about what they're saying. Because its clearly not true.

And on another note...whose to say The Rock won't come back for an appearance or two? Maybe, just maybe, he wants his return to be unexpected and shocking. The Rock hasn't been seen at a live event for nearly four years...and look how much everyone wants him back. Steve Austin, Mick Foley, and others can be seen several times a year...but The Rock is truly something special.

In my opinion, we haven't seen the last of The Rock in the WWE.

Audioslave

02-04-2008, 06:45 PM

The Rock is never going to come back in any sort of wrestling capacity. His last movie did great business at the box office and solidified his position in the entertainment industry.

And he owes nothing to Vince, btw. Vince made him a star, yes, but Rock made Vince a LOT of money over the years and probably will continue to do so via DVDs and such. Rock moved on and became financially independent of the business. And his career is doing fine, so he likely won't need to come back.

Mr. J Rock

02-11-2008, 02:00 AM

Don't get me wrong, I would love one more Rock match. But obviously Vince, and The Rock knows that he is done with wrestling, and that WWE needs to focus on this crop of superstars, build new legends. And say if Hogan, Rock, and Austin came back full time, then that would take the attention away from the newer guys.

Plus, after being away so long, Rock has gotten really ring rusty.

Lets not keep living in the past, lets look forward to the future guys.

goleafsgo

02-18-2008, 01:14 PM

The Rock isn't coming back to the WWE. He is focusing on his acting career, and wrestling has taken too much of a toll on his body. I would like him to come back, but he won't.

Trance Metaphor

02-18-2008, 01:22 PM

The Rock is now an actor and he'll most likely stay that way. His name shouldn't even be associated with wrestling anymore in terms of wrestling news, because it's not wrestling news.

Grubbs0621

02-18-2008, 01:32 PM

I say wrestling is in his blood. I don't think he will ever make a career out of it again, but I see a special appearance down the line.

We see all the older wrestlers who pop up all the time with special appearances, and it is so often, it doesn't feel as special as I would hope. It has been so long since I've seen the Rock, an appearance at a huge PPV would be insane.

He should really time this just perfectly. Right now, people can still remember him like it was yesterday. If he waits too long for his one night appearance to the point people are beginning to forget more and more about him, it could have negative effects. That being said though, it needs to be long enough down the road, that it will bring a nostalgia sort of feel.

I would say have him pop up at Wrestlemania 25. 25 is a nice, good number. If I am thinking right, it will nearly be 5 years also since the Rock had been seen on WWE tv with the exception of that one pre taped appearance on RAW.

TheShiznetNo2

02-27-2008, 07:44 PM

As a big fan of football, I compare The Rock to Barry Sanders as far as living a business they did so well in.

Barry Sanders: One of the best running backs ever, retired way before his career should have been over. Fans and people called him a quitter and said he sold out the Detroit Lions.

The Rock: One of the best sports entertainers ever. Left the business before fans and people say it was over. Accomplished everything he could in the WWE.

Overall: Fan crying and whining that "He sold us out, he lied to us!" shut up. He's a grown ass man, and before he even thinks about considering us in any business decisons, he should do what's best for him and those around him. Which is what he did. I was a huge Rock fan and yet it "hurt" that he'd always say he'd never leave, but yet he did and so soon. But he did what was best for him. He never owed WWE or us anything. Get over it and yourself.

Total Impact

02-27-2008, 10:20 PM

Rock is never going to get in the ring again and wrestle. I for one think wrestling was never in his bloodas he wanted to be a football players, but when he got hurt and couldn't cut it in the NFL, he gave wrestling a shot and almost failed that till the nation idea came up and the rest is history. I think John Cena is right, Rock never had plans of wrestling, it just kind of feel in his lap. It was a way for him to make money as I doubt the guy did great in college to the point he could of had a good living, cuz if he could he would of chose that instead of wrestling.

Rock is done with pro wrestling, he will induct his family and that is it. He may go to Wrestlemania the next night, but I doubt it. I think the Rock inducting his father and grandfather is wrong as he will overshadow them during the induction cermony. I understand inducting his father, but Umaga, Rhikishi could have inducted Mavia.

Rock is a hollywood actor who can get paid 13 million for a movie and can only get about 3million from the WWE. And before saying Floyd Lipgloss Mayweather is getting 20 million, I hear it is a lie, the WWE doesn't have the money for the rock anymore hell they let his WWE contract run out without knowing. Wrestling would hurt Rock career in hollywood and thats it. He will do the Hall of Fame in honor of his father and grandfather, but as for that, thats it. Rock is on the verge of being a hollywood mainstay. He is getting into drama ands other movies. He is done with wrestling, he never had the heart for wrestling as if he did, he would of stayed with the WWE.

I mean look at Triple H, he turned down movies for the passion of the business. John Cena is working both Raw and doing a movie because he has passion for the business. Rock just saw wrestling as a way to make a living and not for the love in his heart. If he did, he would step in the ring for at least Wrestlemania's.

I am a big Rock fan, but hate all his movies after Be Cool, but I come the point that The great One will never be big in wrestling again. For one time, it wouldn't be good. I say if he can't do a year in the company don't come back. Thats why I hope and pray his movies flop so he could come back the WWE, but damn the man, he is great at everything he does.

And for those who say that e owes Vince nothing, Vince gave him a chance when he was broke and out on his luck and gave him a chance because he was Rocky's son. It was Vince who made him a star and put him on TV. Named a PPV and Show which later became a WWE brand after the rock. I think he owes the WWE alot instead always trying to get away from Wrestling. Because he may never know when he has to come back if acting at what is once was for the great one.

AnthonyMango/NoFate007

02-27-2008, 10:50 PM

The Rock is never coming back to wrestling for more than some possible guest spots in the future. Why? Because he's HAPPY right now in a career where he's making terrible, terrible films that gross enough money that he can support himself comfortably. If he has no problem with making garbage movies at the bottom of the rung, he can't do any worse, so unless he wakes up and realizes that his movies suck and he has no legitimacy as an actor, he'll stick with the kiddie flicks.

mattitude2007

02-27-2008, 11:39 PM

You people are a bunch of sour grapes for what he is doing.

The Rock is a great actor, and his movies are very good for what they are.

Don't call them trash because you feel resentment that he'd rather do a charming family movie and stay healthy as opposed to busting his ass in the ring as the Brahma Bull.

The Rock will never wrestle again, and he should not. The Rock is already considered one of the best of all time and he got out with his credibility and status in tact, it was smart of him and a lot of that had to do with his natural born charisma.

He has done everything he could possibly due for the WWE, he still is willing to come back and do appearances in some sense despite his movie career being better off by seperating himself from wrestling slowly.

He owes the WWE nothing. He has paid them back and left on amicable terms.

Long live The Rock. Pardon me. Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.

Dav2205

02-28-2008, 06:58 AM

Total Impact

02-28-2008, 07:11 AM

The Rock, unlike most wrestlers (eg. Triple H), actually has a look that suits Hollywood though.

He's now in a career where he makes much more money, takes less risks with his body and isn't on the road as much. Are you trying to tell me you wouldn't do the same?

The torn his ACL filming the movie the gameplan so he is still at risk. I just think that the WWE should stop using him as everytime he does a interview, he never mentions the WWE anymore. He acts like he never stepped foot in a ring. My thing is show respect toward the industry that put him on the map, instead of always forgetting where he came from. No one knows Dwayne Johnson, they know The Rock. The Rock sells movies.

Esteban Ochocinco

02-28-2008, 02:21 PM

The torn his ACL filming the movie the gameplan so he is still at risk. I just think that the WWE should stop using him as everytime he does a interview, he never mentions the WWE anymore. He acts like he never stepped foot in a ring. My thing is show respect toward the industry that put him on the map, instead of always forgetting where he came from. No one knows Dwayne Johnson, they know The Rock. The Rock sells movies.

Why? He has done plenty for the WWE when he hasn't had too. Hell, he came back last year for a one shot interview to help build up the Umaga/Lashley match. He's coming back this year to induct his dad and grandfather into the hall of fame. He isn't under any contractual obligation to be with the WWE. Just leave the guy alone. If he wants to say the WWE is bullshit for stupid people that like fake fights, then you know what, that's his opinion.

The WWE doesn't care. They are going to whore him out as much as possible. The Rock has a DVD coming out this year without him promoting it. The WWE still uses the rock to make money, so who cares if he shows up or not. He's a grown ass man who has said he's done with the business. He's been out of the business full time for 7 years now, he was only in the business 4 1/2 years full time. It's time to get a hint.

Total Impact

02-28-2008, 07:31 PM

Why? He has done plenty for the WWE when he hasn't had too. Hell, he came back last year for a one shot interview to help build up the Umaga/Lashley match. He's coming back this year to induct his dad and grandfather into the hall of fame. He isn't under any contractual obligation to be with the WWE. Just leave the guy alone. If he wants to say the WWE is bullshit for stupid people that like fake fights, then you know what, that's his opinion.

The WWE doesn't care. They are going to whore him out as much as possible. The Rock has a DVD coming out this year without him promoting it. The WWE still uses the rock to make money, so who cares if he shows up or not. He's a grown ass man who has said he's done with the business. He's been out of the business full time for 7 years now, he was only in the business 4 1/2 years full time. It's time to get a hint.

He does owe the WWE a little more as without WWE TV, he would never had been a star. I mean he shouldn't turn his back on the business as it was the business that made him. He would of never been a hollywood star without the WWE. My thing is that he could at least do something for wrestling by mentioning the WWE or just wrestling in general. Give a rub back to the WWE through the media. He is not going to lay down in matches, might as well do it in interviews. Put over John Cena, put over Randy Orton, talk about what is going on in wrestling so that others can see where he came from.

will5825

02-29-2008, 11:58 PM

LegendKiller97

03-01-2008, 01:05 AM

Why would he come back? Everybody is right he makes way more money as an actor than a wrestler. It's not about us the fans at the end of the day, the wear and tear these guys go through is insane. He gave us a good 10 some odd years in the business, that's fine with me. Anyway think of it this way, he could be the first wrestler to make a blockbuster movie, he has the talent...he just needs the right cast with the right role.

The Rock never put in 10 years into the Wrestling buisness. His debut in the WWE was in 1997 and he left in 2003. Thats 6 years and thats being generous considering he left after WM 17 to film The Scorpion King and then left after Summerslam 2002. He returned for No Way Out 2003 to face Hogan and stayed until Backlash 2003. So really its more like 4 1/2-5 years and I am pretty sure he wasnt working a road schedule when he came back in 2003.

I dont really think he owes the WWE anything anymore. The WWE gave him a shot to become a star. He became a star and made them a lot of money. I think it would be cool to see him come back every once and a while for a special appearence but as far as The Rock coming back full time that ship has sailed.

I would love to see The Rock come back full time but thats just not going to happen.

trev55

03-01-2008, 03:20 PM

The Rock really only has two things he needs to do before leaving wrestling for good.first he needs to whoop John Cena's ass and then face Shawn Micheals at Mania and have Dream match of the century. Sure facing. Edge, Orton, Kennedy, Batista,MVP, ReyRey, and Umaga would be killer hell the promo's alone would be worth it. But he really has done it all. If anything go to TNA and have the Samoan Dream Match against Joe.

trev55

03-01-2008, 03:40 PM

Y 2 Jake

03-02-2008, 08:20 AM

He does owe the WWE a little more as without WWE TV, he would never had been a star. I mean he shouldn't turn his back on the business as it was the business that made him. He would of never been a hollywood star without the WWE. My thing is that he could at least do something for wrestling by mentioning the WWE or just wrestling in general. Give a rub back to the WWE through the media. He is not going to lay down in matches, might as well do it in interviews. Put over John Cena, put over Randy Orton, talk about what is going on in wrestling so that others can see where he came from.

Why would The Rock name drop Cena whilst he's doing promotion for The Game Plan, or whatever shit he's in this week. The Rock is considered a cool guy by all accounts. I doubt he'd want to change peoples perceptions of him. Name dropping people who he's never wrestled, who people in mainstream media have never heard of, in a silly sport he used to do years ago, will make him come across as a total weirdo.

Uncle Sam

03-02-2008, 09:26 AM

Completely agree with Jake, he'd be an even bigger joke of an actor if he started putting over professional wrestlers in film interviews. Christ, I saw him on Jonathan Ross and all they did was fuck around, but it would have still been weird if he started talking about guys who everybody else has heard of. I've said it before and I'll say it again, The Rock doesn't owe anything to the WWE and, unless he'd have some sort of big match with HBK, I wouldn't even be interested in him coming back.

HBK-aholic

03-02-2008, 09:45 AM

Plain and simple, he has no future in the business. At one point he was one of the main attractions, and most people found him entertaining. I liked his gimmick, he and Jericho were 2 of the best on the mic, and against each other. But that's all gone now. The Rock has moved on from the WWE, onto something he finds better. And he's good at it, why would he leave that? Add it on to the fact he's even more well known, and gets extra money, the chanes of him returning are very slim.

I think it is slightly rude for him to not come back every so often just for a special appearance, but recently it's come to light he'll appear at the Hall of Fame, which lessens that feeling slightly. I agree with certain people who have said it seems as if he's forgotten pretty much what made him,and how at one point he said the WWE fans for everything. But at the same time, I understand why he's moved on, and well, he deserves it.

Cage917r

03-10-2008, 06:25 PM

Its pretty obvious that The Rock has no future with the company and it is nothing to hold against him. Why should he come back, he makes way more money making movies and takes much less physical abuse doing so. Yeah he tore his ACL filming The Gameplan, but thats not the abuse you associate with wrestling. Its the constant pain you are in from the bumps and bruises you take in the ring. Why would anybody choose that and less money over making more money, minus the physical abuse. He doesn't owe WWE anything, he gave the WWE his best and made it the biggest it had ever been during the Attitude Era, he simply found a better career to have. Any one of us would have made that decision, and I totally understand why he moved on and will never return to the ring again.

Danmen001

03-11-2008, 01:57 AM

Although it is true that the Rock was built on the WWE. It is fair he went his own way if he chooses to do that, it is his life after all. What I DONT agree on, is the fact he seems to ignore the WWE, would it really hurt him to make a few visits to the WWE every so often.

Amy

03-12-2008, 02:50 PM

I miss the rock too :(. WWE doesnt seem the same without him. I have been watching video clips of him on you tube and wow he was so funny back then. I think Dwayne Johnson is finished with WWE for good now. He has said in interviews he wants to concentrate on his movie career. I very much doubt he will even come back for one off appearances like he did last year to hype up Wrestlemania. Its a shame really as he had thousands of fans. And he really was great entertainment. He made WWE what it is today.

MattMoses

03-12-2008, 05:25 PM

I'm happy for the guy. He's made a smooth transition from one thing to another, but he gets a load of shit for it. The guy doesn't owe anybody anything. Even when he became a part-time wrestler in 2002, he still made lots of appearances, and in the process putting people over left and right.

What I DONT agree on, is the fact he seems to ignore the WWE, would it really hurt him to make a few visits to the WWE every so often.

What? How does he ignore the WWE? Because he has a life, a job which requires lots of time, travel, hard work and dedication as well as having a child? The guy shouldn't have to make visits every so often. Why should he? Even recently he spent the large majority of an interview with Jonathan Ross talking about wrestling, and even said something along the lines of 'I thanked everybody I needed to thank'.

Golden_boy_10

03-12-2008, 06:38 PM

the rock can stay makin movies.. i miss watchin the rock wrestle n dissin ppl.. BUT the rock forgot that he wouldnt be nothin without the wwe he shud at least appear at mania.. hogan is way bigger than the rock n he comes back once in while.. who does the rock thinks he is.. he shud stay in hollywood n never go bak

MattMoses

03-12-2008, 06:45 PM

who does the rock thinks he is

Dwayne Johnson I'd assume.

BUT the rock forgot that he wouldnt be nothin without the wwe

How did he 'forget' he would be nothing without the WWE?

he shud at least appear at mania

he shud stay in hollywood n never go bak

That makes sense.

C.M.V.P

03-12-2008, 07:06 PM

the rock can stay makin movies
He's going to stay making movies because he makes more money making movies than wrestling & also doesnt run the risk of getting injure like in wrestling
.. i miss watchin the rock wrestle n dissin ppl..
That's why there's youtube, you can watch him there any time you want

BUT the rock forgot that he wouldnt be nothin without the wwe
He didnt forget, he could of stay making movies in hollywood after he made "The Mummy Returns" in 2001 but he came back for 3 more years to put over wrestlers like Brock Lesnar, Helms, Evolution, ETC.

who does the rock thinks he is..
Dwayne Johnson, an actor
he shud stay in hollywood n never go bak
he shud at least appear at mania..
^^Dsnt mke ne sense