View Full Version : Y2J Return? & Save Us Videos [KEEP IT ALL HERE!]
mysticx0
09-25-2007, 02:54 AM
http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=192697215
this article mentions that a video that was played during raw MAY have been for y2j...thing is i dont remember the video? does anyone else? what was it?
tnawwe2007
09-25-2007, 03:58 AM
"CD_VOLUME4_1" appears in the video at some point.
WWF The Music Volume 4
Track 1
You guessed it
Breakdown the Walls - Chris Jericho
RKO Evolution
09-25-2007, 04:34 AM
Hopefully he makes the return, i've been waiting for him to return for a while now. But when he appeared in Larry King with Cena he didn't look that he would've been in shape. He looked like he had lost some weight, some muscles (well he wasn't shirtless so can't be sure but it looked like it). And is his condition ok for return? But that come's with the fact that you are living the live outside the ring. Buttom line, he would be a great heel or face and can both wrestle and use the mic, so hope we'll see him back.
mabuza
09-25-2007, 05:45 AM
Hmm,it would be awesome to have Y2J back.But where in the WWE brand family would he fit in.If he goes to RAW,he may find himself in a nowhere feud with Carlito.Hopefully if Booker returns,that will keep him busy as a face.Or he can feud with Cena if he returns as a heel
Birdmeister
09-25-2007, 06:41 AM
Thing is if he goes to Raw he will never get the chance to shine because of HHH, Cena, Orton. I think it would be better for him to go to Smackdown
Banes88
09-25-2007, 07:23 AM
When abouts did this "video" air? I didn't see it =(
TheOneBigWill
09-25-2007, 07:26 AM
could be wrong but isnt all that computer effect bull for the cyber sunday ppv?
mystic makes a good point and i did see that message but you do know how the wwe is...
The matrix promo was weird to begin with, & it reminded me of the Simon Dean promos. Which, at the beginning I didn't know whether they were wrestling related or not. (after I realized it was Nova, I knew, obviously)
Anyways, my point to what you said. If it was for Cyber Sunday, they would've explained that at the end of the promo, they wouldn't leave it hanging. W.W.E. isn't one for mystery p.p.v. ads. They like you to know what to expect.
I think its Jericho, it isn't 100% solid, but tnawwe2007 makes a valid point. W.W.E. loves to send crap like that through.. & if its true that it is Jericho, its a nice way to bring him back. They could almost do another countdown. Granted, another countdown would give it away, but at this point W.W.E. fans are so hard up to get major talent back, I doubt they'll care.
Here's the video in question
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Now i've watched it quite a number of times now and the only thing that stands out are sayings of the rock (candy ass, smack down), apparently it says Y2J somewhere in it but I can't see it. I first thought it was a Cyber Sunday promo, but at closer inspection it doesn't say cyber Sunday at the start, and why not tell us what it is?
MR.SCOTT
09-25-2007, 08:22 AM
i think we all want y2j to return but we just have to wait and see and see what the wwe is going for hopefully they will start to pick up from where theyve left off in regards to storylines as i feel that the current storylines are focusing more on talent rather then enhancements, apart from batista cough sucks cough...
TJ2069
09-25-2007, 08:41 AM
Im thinking wwe and Jericho must have a worked out a deal and are keeping it hush so when he does return are when it gets closer to his return it will be more hype. Rember in 1999 when they brought in radicalzs the wwe said they dident sighn Malinko and then the day when they showed everyone was shocked he was there.
Banes88
09-25-2007, 08:41 AM
Here's a clearer video of what aired on RAW last night.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x325wv_mystery-ad_extreme
After reviewing the video several times, I came to the conclusion and have convinced myself sadly, that this video is not hyping at Jericho's return. The main focus of this video is to catch the viewers eyes at the phrase "Save_Us.222". It is shown in the video about 4-5 times. The "Us" part shuts down any Jericho hypes I thought it once was. This may possibly be hyping the New Hart Foundation?
NUFCDoug
09-25-2007, 08:53 AM
I think it's Jericho.
I've looked at the video, and you're right SAVE US does feature a lot.
However, did anyone notice on last weeks Raw, a ''coincidentaly placed sign'' said ''SAVE US Y2J'' im thinking that sign was a plant from the WWE, and now with this video, it seems it is Jericho.
A sign saying save us Y2J,and a video saying save us this week? A coincidence? I dont think so.
RPer_RaVeN
09-25-2007, 08:56 AM
Unfortunately i've yet to see the clearer vid posted by Banes88, but I have a small theory.
The promo has a cyber theme to it, and well the whole Y2K thing was very much centered around computers and such. So really, I think there's a small connection to the promo and Jericho there. I don't know. The theory doesn't really hold up well, maybe i'm clutching at straws. But it's still fun to theorise nonetheless.
tsupbro181
09-25-2007, 09:09 AM
When Jericho first made his debut in the WWE, He claimed to be everyone's "savior"... I can very easily see Jericho making his return and claiming to be everyone's savior again, saving everyone from the current state/lack of talent in the WWE...
Also, wasnt it Jericho who first suggested the concept of the Cyber Sunday pay-per-view, or back then, Taboo Tuesday, to Vince McMahon? Ontop of all that, Cyber Sunday does heavily involve computers, as does the entire theme of Y2K or Y2J...
"Save_us", to me, pretty much epitomizes Chris Jericho, his attitude, persona, alignment, gimmick, everything..... Plus there were initial reports about Jericho being back in the company in October.
It'll be Jericho. I promise.
y2j8679
09-25-2007, 09:10 AM
Well I am a huge Y2J mark and I heard rumors that he has going to be making a comeback in Oct well Cyber Sunday is Oct 28th. The video has a Cyber Sunday theme to it. Save Us Y2J can be new the slogan for the Return of Y2J Chris Jericho to Raw. It would be huge and the ratings would go thru the roof. Im not worried bout Y2J be buried by HHH cuz I think HHH will be tied up with Vince. Hell we all know Umaga gonna cost him his match with Vince next week. So he has someone to keep him busy plus Kennedy will be his next feud as they head to a match at Mania 24. I see Y2J returning to feud with Cena. with Orton right in the middle. Raw needs Y2J especially with HBK on his sabbatical. Smackdown is ok with Batista, Taker, Kane, Finlay, Mysterio, and soon to be returning Edge. Matt Hardy,MVP no need for Y2J here. Raw only has Cena, Orton, HHH, Umaga, Kennedy, Jeff Hardy. Raw is lacking some star power. King Booker may be gone for awhile Lashley's out, HBK at home so Raw needs Y2J. The videos will air on ECW tonight and Smackdown this week but Im convinced that this is Y2J returning to WWE. and I for one cant wait. :headbanger:
NUFCDoug
09-25-2007, 09:13 AM
The video definently zooms in on the 6-5-4-3-2-1 countdown.
Watch it towards the end and it centres them numbers, it has to be Jericho and like i said with the conviniently placed SAVE US Y2J sign last week.
If this isnt Jericho's return i'll be gutted.
alfchuck
09-25-2007, 09:24 AM
in the video it says "SAVE_US.222" 2/22 falls on a friday
also using my DVR i was able to play it in slow motion and you can clearly see raw war and smackdown as for it saying Y2J in there either i didn't catch it or it just was not there guess we will just have to wait and see
The video definently zooms in on the 6-5-4-3-2-1 countdown.
Watch it towards the end and it centres them numbers, it has to be Jericho and like i said with the conviniently placed SAVE US Y2J sign last week.
If this isn't Jericho's return i'll be gutted.
I would be more over the moon with that than us beating Arsenal tonight!
But I've watched it several times, Y2J is a logical choice but there are loads of Rock references in it (he's not coming back) as well as the Hardy Borough.
Save_Us.222 which is actually in amongst a list of matches from 1999 (Y2J's debut), mentions WWM 1999 Triple HHH gets mentioned also
FTWChamp
09-25-2007, 09:35 AM
I went frame by frame as well as I could on that website and you can clearly see a list of matches and/or promos but they are cut off.
The first one I noticed was WM99 and it goes on to say either Triple H or Triple Threat Match. I was excited to see this as I was thinking that the Angle-Jericho-Benoit Triple Threat at WM was in 99 but it was in 2000.
Also Save Us is prominently featured and I do remember the Save Us Jericho sign on Raw. This does seem like quite a big coincidence.
Another interesting fact my wife noticed was that if you type in the save_us.222 in the yahoo search engine you pull up a list of bible codes. Thought that was interesting in the sense of Jericho and the Wall of Jericho being prominent in the bible. My wife noticed that one, thought it was a little far fetched but I do see her point.
Hendo9
09-25-2007, 09:40 AM
After reading a few other peoples opinions on the situation. I thought id share everything ive found on it so far.
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Firstly look at the above clip. Centre of the screen whenever the numbers come up...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1
Theres your countdown as Jericho had before!
Now for the following things, its either people, and myself reading far too much into it, or its a deliberate attempt by WWE to get us speculating.
SMACK_BROUGHT1 -- In 2005, Cena was the #1 Draft Pick from Smackdown to Raw -- Who interviewed him first...thats right, "Y2J" Chris Jericho. Or could it be when he first joined, he "brought the Smackdown" to the Rock in his promo.
Another thing during the flashing text -- /shara/catman/a_man/cat1 comes up. -- Now that relates a cat to a man with the catman reference -- could it be a clue to Jericho's old "Lionheart" gimmick
Next one -- JAKKED_BROLL --- Anyone remember WWE Jakked? Broll could be interpreted as Brawl -- one Jakked main event was a triple threat match for the Undisputed Championship -- Kurt Angle vs The Rock vs Chris Jericho
RAW_REV_MAY2.action also came up -- which gets people looking back through previous dates trying to see what happened on May 2nd. Well ill tell you -- On May 2nd, 2000 -- an Intercontinental Title match between Chris Benoit, and yes you guessed it...Chris Jericho -- and Y2J won the title from Benoit following a title shot to Benoit.
Another clue could be -- Go to his website CLICK HERE (http://www.chrisjericho.com) and you will see his Book signing schedule. Now correct me if Im wrong but looking at that , he seems to have kept his Monday's free for some reason! :)
Finally
SURVIVOR_RF could mean to one of his old Ring Names that was Last Survivor.
CHAMP_HARD well he was a hardcore champ when he was wrestling.
RAW_WAR_BUMPER he was in the old raw is war opening vid. http://youtube.com/watch?v=3Sx0offLU6I for the titantron
KOR_Qualify13_60 could mean where he was in the wwf triple threat at king of the ring 2001
RAW_DOUBLE_FIN could mean he had 2 main finishers the walls of jericho and the lionsault
SAVE_US.222 i wish it would go monday 24th of september SAVE_US.222 to Monday october 1st SAVE_US.22J to finally on October 8th SAVE_US.Y2J!!
Another interesting fact my wife noticed was that if you type in the save_us.222 in the yahoo search engine you pull up a list of bible codes. Thought that was interesting in the sense of Jericho and the Wall of Jericho being prominent in the bible. My wife noticed that one, thought it was a little far fetched but I do see her point.
If it was 6:2 then I'd jump for joy Joshua 6 verse 2 says "Then the LORD said to Joshua, 'See, I have delivered Jericho into your hands, along with its king and its fighting men." But there is no Bible reference with 222 linking Jericho to it. Seems the Bible idea is way out.
Whoever it is I'm excited
tap-out
09-25-2007, 09:55 AM
All in all it is pretty refreshing to see wwe doing this. Look, it has all of us excited over this, more excited than we have been in some while with out even knowing what is going on. Props to wwe for this one.
I have a feeling it has something to do with Y2J and Cyber Sunday. Doesn't that video remind you of the opening of the old wwe logo b4 raw and smackdown.
Y 2 Jake
09-25-2007, 10:05 AM
When I saw that at first I thought Cyber Sunday. My second thought was Gail Kim? When she made her debut she had a similar graphic. I must be honest, I didn't even think of Jericho.
Hopefully if it is Y2J they show the graphic on ever piece of WWE programing. Jericho on Raw is pointless. Not only is he not needed. But he's faced pretty much everyone on that brand before anyway. Jericho should be pushed hard and fast upon his return. And he can be a big star on Smackdown or ECW. But on Raw he will always be behind HHH & Cena. And to a lesser degree Orton.
tap-out
09-25-2007, 10:11 AM
the SAVE_US.222 is getting many confused and as it should, again well done wwe. The save us y2j sign has been seen on previous raw. Now the .222 is what everyone is uncertain about.
All the scrolling lines are all file directories used at one point by wwe programming. The 222 has probably todo with the fact that cyber sunday ppv is wwe's 222nd ppv. So you have SAVE_US.222=Y2J at the 222nd ppv which is Cyber Sunday.
RoyalSkull
09-25-2007, 10:27 AM
RAW_DOUBLE_FIN could mean he had 2 main finishers the walls of jericho and the lionsault
Actually...I think this must refer to the double finish when Jericho "beat" Triple H for the WWF Title, and then Earl Hebner reversed the decision.
daman0092
09-25-2007, 10:36 AM
If this is really the begining of the Jericho hype for the Jericho return it definetley has me pumped. Jericho was probally my second favorite wrestler of all time behind HHH. To whoever said that he isnt needed on Raw is thouroghly wrong Jericho is needed on the top show for WWE to try to gain some more glory after all the scandals. He will instantly rejuvinate the fans and the roster and i feel he should get a huge push and a program with Cena or HHH preferably Cena because I am so over him its not funny. Either way if its not Jericho it is someone new and that is what WWE needs right now someone new and big.
Mad Metal
09-25-2007, 10:38 AM
"RAW_WAR" kept popping in the mystery add. As I go through it on slow motion and keep pausing, I found the terms "LIVEWIRE", "WM99_MATCH_TRIP", "WM99_PROMO_TAG_T??".
I almost have no doubt this is to hype a return of a wrestler from the Attitude era. There's a lot of SmackDown! references as well as RAW IS WAR and Livewire. It's not like they're mentioning TNT, Saturday Night's Main Event, etc. or Velocity, Experience, Confidential or ECW which is one reason why I am almost certain this name is from the "Attitude era".
save_us.222
32gijoe
09-25-2007, 10:44 AM
i do believe the message was in referance to "dont be an ass clown". i watched the promo several times and its obviously a y2j promo add. however, dont look for him anytime soon as he has prior commitments with his nationwide book signings running through october. i dont have the schedule in front of me but if anyone can check to see if raw coincides in the same city on any of the book signing dates. otherwise other than a cameo we wont see jericho back in the ring until november which makes sense. first he can get back into ring shape and second still leave us hanging with a countdown... do they bring him in as a face? didnt cena already send him packing in the first place? how cool would it be to see him chase randy orton for the belt though and give cena some much needed time off
NUFCDoug
09-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Jericho's book signing schedule conveniantly has all MONDAYS free. No signings take place on a Monday.
I wonder why....
Mad Metal
09-25-2007, 10:47 AM
i do believe the message was in referance to "dont be an ass clown". i watched the promo several times and its obviously a y2j promo add. however, dont look for him anytime soon as he has prior commitments with his nationwide book signings running through october. i dont have the schedule in front of me but if anyone can check to see if raw coincides in the same city on any of the book signing dates. otherwise other than a cameo we wont see jericho back in the ring until november which makes sense. first he can get back into ring shape and second still leave us hanging with a countdown... do they bring him in as a face? didnt cena already send him packing in the first place? how cool would it be to see him chase randy orton for the belt though and give cena some much needed time off
Actually his tour schedule is posted on ChrisJericho.com. It requires too much time & I'm too lazy to verify this, although someone here did mention none of the appearances were on a Monday....
Meilichia
09-25-2007, 11:04 AM
Did anyone else hear the "i'm back"? if you watch it again and listen not too far in it says i'm back in a low voice, well in my opinion purely, i doubt its Cyber Sunday, they don't do hype for a ppv like this, hell they want to make money, they would tell you when it is and where to buy it! its obviously a return, i hope Jericho, but hopefully it is going to be someone from the attitude era. Last time Jericho had promo's they where quite misleading, and didn't say much... so i just got my fingers crosses for Jericho!
a7xoff
09-25-2007, 11:10 AM
Wow... I'm thinkin this is a Y2J promo... I pretty much slowed the thing down frame by frame and you can clearly see Y2J written at one point as well as some of his typical phrases and WM 99. I also heard the I'm back when there's about 14 seconds left in the video. No clue when he's returning or if he is, but this certainly looks like it... strange...
a7xoff
09-25-2007, 11:16 AM
After watching the video again slowley I can see that it makes several references to Cyber Sunday as well...
Anyway as far as Y2J on Raw... I'd say do it have him as a heel, get Orton outta the scene, have Orton feud with HHH and have Y2J feud with Cena. Hell if Orton wins at No Mercy have HHH be the number one contender and Y2J still feud with Cena. I think that would be a very good feud
Egg McMuffin
09-25-2007, 11:20 AM
Can someone please post some screenshots of these messages cos I cannot see them at all. I really hope its a jericho return vid... only ECW and smackdown will tell now, if they air it on those too. Id love for him to come back but like loads ofyou have said, hed get drowned on Raw.
andrewdcrell
09-25-2007, 11:51 AM
If You look at chris last match and slip forward 2 years. 2 months. and 2 weeks or 14 days you will see it ends up on november 5th... a monday...where raw is at the staples center then if you go back to when the countdown first appeared to when he debut you will notice it is the same amount of time between the video last night and november 5 coincidence? or did i really just crack the code you decide
razor7
09-25-2007, 12:16 PM
Most people don't go to book signings on Monday. I have a book out and I don't do Monday signings either. Many book stores don't book them on that day.
Wow maybe the promo was for me ;)
Most people are getting back in the work week, and book store sales are down on Mondays.
It's obviously for Jericho though. Also if he has no Mondays, does he have any weekend signings at all? What Sundays does he sign?
I think the ONLY message in the thing is Save_us.222 the other stuff looks to be random. Jericho used to proclaim he had arrived to SAVE THE SHOW.
Mad Metal
09-25-2007, 12:28 PM
After watching the video again slowley I can see that it makes several references to Cyber Sunday as well...
Anyway as far as Y2J on Raw... I'd say do it have him as a heel, get Orton outta the scene, have Orton feud with HHH and have Y2J feud with Cena. Hell if Orton wins at No Mercy have HHH be the number one contender and Y2J still feud with Cena. I think that would be a very good feud
I didn't see any references other than the term "cyber" which can be considered as cybernetic and besides why hype it when they need to worry about No Mercy coming up?
the study of human control functions and of mechanical and electronic systems designed to replace them, involving the application of statistical mechanics to communication engineering.
daman0092
09-25-2007, 12:33 PM
I have found a couple for messages:
What appears to say
WM99_DVD_Move2A
Jakked
Starburst_Slam (this one really got me)
Nestle_Slam1
KOR_Qualify_
te/LIVEWIRE_OPEN
te/TALENT_PRE_BL
te/BAT_ASS_WEEK1
te/JVC_FIX_MOIVE
te/RAW_NEW.comp
at the 23second mark OCT is written down the middle and what appears to be 7 before it
Dont know what any of them mean but thought they may mean something
simpsons_fanatic742
09-25-2007, 12:49 PM
I saw War_Fin a couple of times and Heat_NEXT.
Maybe Jericho was involved in the last episode of Raw is War.
Either way I love WWE Promos like this. They always get people talking and are always a great mystery. I remember the first promo for Jericho with the countdown. That was awesome.
razor7
09-25-2007, 12:51 PM
Problem though is the WWE has a history of blowing it with these mysteries - The higher power and Hornswoggle come to mind ...
Mad Metal
09-25-2007, 12:54 PM
lol I know I know I posted so many times in this thread, however in a clearer version uploaded on Youtube you can hear slightly at 9 seconds someone saying "I'm Back". Someone pointed that out in the comments on the page:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amhrHgD7Fs0
Here is a point I found interesting on Wrestlezone
- The phrase "7OCT" is repeated over and over on one frame. October 7th is the date of WWE's next PPV, No Mercy.
bowds987
09-25-2007, 01:09 PM
Defo Jericho... even the background music sounds Jericho-ish!!!!
Joker ' Ferreira
09-25-2007, 02:04 PM
BOOkshell! I read bookshell on second 22, i'm not sure but doesnt mean in english a place where books are sold? Then y2j will have a book, right?
Sorry for my bad english, but I don't speak very well english...
Mad Metal
09-25-2007, 02:08 PM
Here is something else that I found on WrestleZone regarding the "222"
Several emails have pointed us to a bible verse being the hint on the video last night on RAW. Joshua 2:2 verse 2 It was told the king of Jericho, saying, "Behold, men from the sons of Israel have come here tonight to search out the land."
Ex-Degenerate
09-25-2007, 02:09 PM
Taking the biblical referece to the city of Jericho, The word "Jericho" happens to be the final word in the entire Book of Numbers, according to Wikipedia. (hense the Numbers Countdown) But a seach of the book of Joshua, where the city is metioned, comes up nill. There is no Joshua 2:22, and 22:2 has nothing on Jericho...
Maybe 222 is a cyber referece of somekind
millar
09-25-2007, 02:25 PM
it says 8_1998_06:46:25 this is blatently a time or date of something mayb his debut
monkeynippler
09-25-2007, 02:34 PM
has anyone else noticed that jericho's book signing schedule has a gap from 30th sept to 25th Oct, this coincides quite conveniently with the European / Uk tour.
just a little thought i had
fed_up_fan
09-25-2007, 02:35 PM
I happen to have my trusty bible in front of me and yes, Jericho is the very last word in the book of numbers.
Joshua 2:2 - In time it was said to the king of Jericho: "Look! Men from the sons of Isreal have come in here tonight to search the land."
Joshua 2:22- So they went and came to the mountianous region and kept dwelling there three days, until the pursuers had come back. Now the pursuers were looking for them on every road, and they did not find them.
the first one is a clear reference to Jericho, however if the second holds any clues, they are byond my skills of deduction. If anyone can shed light on this, please post.
This looks like a job for the Hardy boys, Nancy Drew, or possibly the Scooby gang!
MR.SCOTT
09-25-2007, 02:36 PM
i hope this leads us to something positive as im a big fan of storylines like this if played out well then just maybe it will be the best storyline of 2007, lets just see if we get what we want a jehricho return
Ex-Degenerate
09-25-2007, 02:36 PM
it says 8_1998_06:46:25 this is blatently a time or date of something mayb his debut
No, his wwe debut was Aug. 9, 1999 in Chicago...
Doshan
09-25-2007, 02:43 PM
I found the terms "LIVEWIRE", "WM99_MATCH_TRIP", "WM99_PROMO_TAG_T??".
Live Wire is the name of a Fozzy song!!
dcdude
09-25-2007, 02:47 PM
did anyone notice the mancat thing any idea how that can like to y2j sorry for any bubble bursting
daman0092
09-25-2007, 02:49 PM
It was already said earlier "mancat" could equal Lionheart Jericho's old gimmick in WCW
razor7
09-25-2007, 02:54 PM
I seriously think the ONLY clue is the save_us.222 I think the rest of it is just tossed in that means nothing, and oh yes I hear there is a countdown and someone saying I'm back can be faintly heard.
The rest of the comupter garble is just there to let you know it is a computer.
It's like the Higher Power storyline and when everyone started seeing all these fake clues that the NWO was heading BACK to WWE.
mattsonr
09-25-2007, 03:02 PM
Remember when Jericho first came to the WWF?
He kept saying, "I'm here to save the WWF."
SAVE_US.222 sounds familar, especially since the Bible verse mentioned in the news headlines...
rjohn6000
09-25-2007, 03:05 PM
what ever the music is playing in the back i bet if u play it backwards it should answer all the questions
mattsonr
09-25-2007, 03:08 PM
I heard someone whisper, "I'm back."
It was about in the middle of the video, and it's more like, "IIIII'm baaaaack."
Thumz9814
09-25-2007, 03:09 PM
Here are a few things I've picked up.
When the person whispers "I'm back", to me, it sounds more like he's saying "oh, Jerich" An obvious twist on his name.
also, a couple of times I've noticed a white/grey spot running through some of the numbers running vertically. At times, it looks a little like jericho when he's standing with his back to the audience.
the "library/sgi bookshelves/help" is a reference to his new book
also, the word slam is usually following "starbusrt, skittle, nestle". Did Y2J have anything to do with candy recently?
I know some of these things are pretty "out there", but just throwing out possibilities. Quite frankly I think the only real clues are the Save Us, and the countdown at the end, but it's still fun to try and decode things. It's a little like that realitly series "The Mole"
mattsonr
09-25-2007, 03:10 PM
Jericho's first WWF PPV was Summerslam of 1999.
He came out and insulted the Road Dogg before the hardcore championship match.
Ex-Degenerate
09-25-2007, 03:29 PM
this Save_us.222 clue reminds me of the "Things are looking up" clue for Mr. McMahons son.
Thumz9814
09-25-2007, 03:51 PM
anyone else notice that at one point, it's a blankscreen with the exception of "_fs.h"? I dont know if that has anything to do with jericho, but it seems a little ominous. (come to think of it, damn near everything seems ominous in the video)
I don't know if this is Jericho or not but i do know that this 20 sec video has caused more spark and intrest in RAW or the WWE for that matter than anything from the past 6 months or more.....and i think it's totally AWESOME!!:headbanger::lol2: :headbanger:
genericwrestler
09-25-2007, 04:01 PM
just fyi: "catman" is just a standard unix command. a lot of the "cryptic strings" are just directory listings that i have on my pc as well. still... the SAVE_US.222 = cyber sunday idea seems pretty appealing
I don't know if this is Jericho or not but i do know that this 20 sec video has caused more spark and intrest in RAW or the WWE for that matter than anything from the past 6 months or more.....and i think it's totally AWESOME!!:headbanger::lol2: :headbanger:
DAMN RIGHT YOU ARE.
I rather be cautious on this subject. I dont want to put my hopes on a better product on a possible fluke (someone said Billy Gunn? OMG, I rather watch Cena getting his ass beat.) However, Chris Jericho WWE returning sounds more and more in the business (even he said that he might return soon...)
Did someone meantioned The Rock also? please guys, do you think The Rock is going to return after what he said on the steroid scandal? I dont think that vince s high on him, if he was for good....
Let's hope it's Jericho, but again, be cautious...I wouldnt want to see another "McBastard" letdown among us.
Great buzz around this. Good job WWE, if only they could do the same on the Wrestling part....
K_chance
09-25-2007, 04:13 PM
I kept seeing the 7OCT. in the video. And I am going to NO Mercy, So I hope to god he makes an appearnce there. That would be awesome. And i was at Raw last nite in Wisconsin, And the video had like no response. I think everyone was just kind of clueless. After the vid i turned to my friend and said thats for either jericho or Cyber Sunday
Did anybody else see that the graphic in the video looks an awful lot like the Jeritron 5000 from his "Highlight Reel" segment in Raw?
If there is correlation there, we may have our answer.
figure4
09-25-2007, 04:33 PM
My theory, which tnawwe2007 said first on the first page of the thread:
Just watched the vid multiple times on youtube. 3 seconds in, the line "CD_VOLUME4_1" appears at the top of the screen. Jericho's theme is the first track on WWF: The Music Volume 4. Coincidence? I think not. This is the most concrete message in the video, in my opinion. It's definitely Jericho. I never really liked the guy, but damn if we don't need him right now. WWE really sucks right now.
Rubberband Man
09-25-2007, 04:37 PM
Not sure whether I'm hearing it because I want to hear it or whether it's actually there... After the second whisper which sounds alot like "I'm back" (while I can't be sure of that) right at the end of the video, I'm hearing a feint shout very similar to those that Jericho had in his entrance theme since he first debutted in '99 ('shout' is the best way that I can describe it really, hopefully others will be able to make it out too). Not the best explanation. :P
Bighub21
09-25-2007, 04:37 PM
OK i have full proof that is Y2J. Go to YouTube and type in chris jericho debutes and listen to the whole thing it says and i quote "Y2J is here to save Raw"!!!! Give me your feed back on my findings. Bighub21@yahoo.com I should be an investagator. LMAO!!!!
brizzobrad
09-25-2007, 04:42 PM
ok guys. its jericho. i have complete proof. obviously. go to his fozzy band myspace page. the first person on his top friends is the fan space of fozzy. go to it. look on the top friends. one of them says JAMES [SAVE_US.222]. now why the hell would he be on the top friends of jericho's band's fan space? or is it just coincidential or am i mistaken? oh i dont think so. its right there in front of all of you to see.
Papa Shango
09-25-2007, 04:42 PM
i hope he does return it wud just be amazing to see the crowd pop like never before as he is practically one of the biggest stars of the attitude era and beyond!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely. Chris Jericho is quite possibly THE hottest free agent in the history of the business. He is more in demand than he has ever been. Actually, even if this isn't meant to be Y2J, it would be smart for WWE and Jericho to turn it into his return. It's what everyone wants, and I wouldn't put it past WWE to push aside some new superstar and give his spot to Jericho. To be honest, I wouldn't care. If this isn't for Y2J's return, then he's screwed, because if/when people see it's not him, everyone will be so letdown it'll kill any momentum or hype for his return. If/when he returns, everyone would be like, "Gee, NOW he's here.cool."
WWE Creative Team, I pray to you. If you don't screw this up, I promise I will never bad mouth you guys on the internet ever again. I'll even give up drinking... on weekdays.
:lmao: This shit is great. It's got every WWE fan turning into some Cold War CIA agent trying to crack the code.
yeah I know. We should call fucking Robert Langdon, maybe he could solve this mistery.... ;)
I only hope if it is Jericho, he is actually in good shape. I wouldnt stand a fat ass as the "savior" of WWE. (no offense to Umaga, he rox my sox.)
Thumz9814
09-25-2007, 04:46 PM
It's certainly got me hooked. ECW is gonna probably have it's best ratings in a while tonight because so many people are gonna be tuning in to see if anything changes.
Set your TiVo's everyone!
ok guys. its jericho. i have complete proof. obviously. go to his fozzy band myspace page. the first person on his top friends is the fan space of fozzy. go to it. look on the top friends. one of them says JAMES [SAVE_US.222]. now why the hell would he be on the top friends of jericho's band's fan space? or is it just coincidential or am i mistaken? oh i dont think so. its right there in front of all of you to see............
SHUT THE F*CK UP DAMN IT! WE got your point!!!!! gee, is like the same post for the 7th time....
anyone can post any image from the myspace/fozzy? I can enter here... :(
EPN17
09-25-2007, 04:59 PM
Man I really hope Y2J's coming back, would anyone else here like to see a feud where he beats the shit out of Cena for that loser leaves Raw match acouple years ago? Would also be a good way to transition Cena out of the title picture...
Thumz9814
09-25-2007, 05:02 PM
This James kid is probably a die hard Jericho fan. Once he heard that "Save_Us.222" had something to do with Y2J, he put it in his name in hopes that all this speculation is correct. So in contradiction to what your saying-YES, you are mistaken!
Joker ' Ferreira
09-25-2007, 05:07 PM
I believe that Cena wins at No Mercy and then Jericho appears and attacks (possibly if he is heel) Cena or the opposite: Orton wins and Y2J appears and attacks Orton, possibily if this happens John Cena has to be beaten down like he is injured or something and get some time out.
Shadowmancer
09-25-2007, 05:07 PM
It says bat ass week1, In his debut match in the WWF Chris Jericho beat Bad Ass Billy Gun. This was on Smackdown. He debuted to a promo during The Rocks promo but his first match was against Billy Gun. The word Demos means people in Greek, Maybe someone the people want to see, thereby meaning Jericho. There is an 07 early on, could be representing this year.
noone911
09-25-2007, 05:17 PM
People are reading too much into this. There are not 500 clues hidden here. There is no "Jericho was born on this date and if you multiply it by 3 its the number of his salary when he started" or something ridiculous like that.
Whatever it is is a great video promo, and if it is Jericho that would be a nice addition to RAW. Though I would imagine if Jericho is to return, someone will find out in advance.
NUFCDoug
09-25-2007, 05:24 PM
My theory is that it is Jericho, and at No Mercy this will happen :-
Cena has Randy Orton out during the LMS match, for what seems like a 10count, the ref gets to about 5, then suddenly that video plays, and a countdown from 5 begins, of course the ref stops, then when it gets to 0, it comes up on screen SAVE US Y2J, the lights go out, and when they come back on Cena is out in the ring, and Jericho is standing over him!!!! By this time Orton has recovered, and wins the title.
This works, because it was Cena who got Jericho ''fired'' in the first place.
Thumz9814
09-25-2007, 05:27 PM
As I keep listening to it, the whisper sounds like several different things, most of which pertaining to Y2J. I've heard "oh, jerich" (as in Jericho), and "Walls of Jerich". I'm yet to hear, "I'm back" but I have heard an "oh, yes!" similar to the one yelled out by Paul Bearer at WM XX, although I think that may be a stretch.
Jericho vs Michaels at WrestleMania 24. It stole the show at WrestleMania 19, i would love to see that match again. Deserves to be a main event. Jericho deserves a better run as champion than he got last time IMO.
I kind of disagree on HBK vs Jericho. It was great on WM19, but I dont know right now. IF Jericho returns to RAW, I can see him feuding either Carlito or Kennedy if they decide to keep Kennedy as a heel, this last one would rise the ratings to the roof.
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Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger
09-25-2007, 05:37 PM
I dont know this video seems some what strange. 222 which is basically in the bible 2:2 verse to or something which involves the name Jericho, I am not sure of the fact but i hope it is Chris Jericho because it will be a tremendous addition. I see him coming back at no mercy and interfering in the match but i hope i am wrong. I would love to see his return though. it all makes logical sense though.
Last night: SAVE_US.222
Next week: SAVE_US.22J
Week after: SAVE_US.Y2J: which would be the week of No Mercy or even the return at no mercy.
the cryptic message though is making sense though with all the numbers and the references, so i hope it is him.
Thumz9814
09-25-2007, 05:40 PM
I'm trying not to concentrate on the "222" part of this. up until about a year ago, I went by the nickname "Sonny222" over the internet. Obviously a coincidence, but step into my shoes and say you arent even a little bit freaked.
robbs1231
09-25-2007, 05:42 PM
So in the video it says 7OCT a ton...which is No Mercy taking place where? Chicago.
Where did Jericho make his WWE debut, Chicago? Could it be coincidence, God I hope not!
Rubberband Man
09-25-2007, 05:49 PM
Just a note for anybody looking to find any more possible clues - if you watch the video through YouTube you can easily go through the video bit by bit with about two or three images for each second, just by slowly dragging the marker along. Just thought I'd point it out since I've already spotted lines that I hadn't done before, and that I haven't seen mentioned here yet.
MrEastBay
09-25-2007, 05:57 PM
At the very least Raw gave us one thing that it hasnt had in a long time. SOmething signifigant to talk about <other than wasting Shelton Benjamin>.
razor7
09-25-2007, 06:12 PM
as far as this leaving people intrigued for the first time in a long time, HA, Mr. McMahon's death angle did the same thing just 90 days ago, after that it was his bastard son.
Yes it is Jericho, but undoubtedly everything people are claiming to be clues are not. i.e., Bible verses, and the random code which refers to some match he had in Hoboken when he broke in the business.
Settle down people, you're reading way too much into it. The only legit clues are the voice and of course Save_Us.222
TJ2069
09-25-2007, 06:27 PM
Yea i lisend too the clip and yea at the end you hear a voice say "im back" and sure enough on Jerichos webpage on the front it says im back. Now im not saying its written in stone that they have to do with each other but it does get my hopes up. But the thing that really gets me is the brick wall itself. Is this gonna indacate that its time too break the walls down? Its amazing in 1999 Jericho had one of the best debuts in wrestling history. And if this one is Jerichos return then in the matter of 8 years Jericho just might have 2 of the best returns in wrestling ever.
simpsons_fanatic742
09-25-2007, 06:44 PM
Watching the clip again I saw it saying CyberAstronomy. Now I don't know why WWE would advertise CyberSunday when No Mercy is coming soon, but that's what I saw.
I would like to watch ECW and Smackdown now so I can see if they play it again. I love when WWE does this kind of stuff.
hopefully it is a returning video. But i guess we should all wait and see in the coming shows. Depends whether they pop this one up again or it was just a technical screw up. If they bring this video again then it might be a returning video. But chances are, that its just a Cyber Sunday promotion video. I guess
Joker ' Ferreira
09-25-2007, 06:50 PM
And something envolving Jericho to CyberSunday? Like... he could be a choice for a guest referee match for the WWE Championship, like Orton vs. Cena, or even Cena vs. McMahon (I'm really preadicting this if they don't keep HHH vs. McMahon in the future)... so the save us message could also be referring to "saving WWE" of having McMahon has WWE Champion, I would say that the others choices for referees would be Coachman and Orton, possibly if he didn't return before the match he will be like somekind of "mistery referee" so do speak.
kobe9988
09-25-2007, 07:15 PM
I will say this once........towards the end of the video it says in the message wm_99 locator. Wrestlemania in 1999 was in philadelphia.....raw goes there on oct 29....this is when he will return......book it
y2j8679
09-25-2007, 07:19 PM
Well I am just convinced thats its Y2J... So I wont coment of the video. Brillant by creative to come up with the cryptic message. Hell for all we know it could be Y2J's idea all along. He's the one that introduced the countdown to Vince when he debuted in 99. :headbanger:
The net is buzzing over his impending return. The video just aired last night and its burning up the net. Holy Cow. Just shows how much he is needed in the state of WWE in general. Yea Y2J is coming back. I think they have known this since he appeared on Larry King Live.I think Y2J is ready for one return to glory. I see him on Raw feuding with Cena. It makes sense the video eludes to Oct 7 which is No Mercy in Chicago where at the Allstate Arena. Where he debut in Chicago at the Allstate arena.
futhermore Cena is the reason he left so I see him interjecting himself during the Last Man Standing match maybe a video promo airs Save_Us.Y2J and it distracts Cena who thinks it may be his nemises haunting him. Cena turns around Bam RKO on the steel steps. Ref makes the 10 count as no one can answer a ten - count of an RKO on the steel steps.Im sorry no way. Plus there will be a significant amount of blood loss throughout the match. New WWE Champion Randy Orton until HBK returns and sweet chin music his head of at Mania 24 giving HBK one final run as I think this is the only way to get him to return sooner. But thats another topic.Back to original topic...My bad...
Cyber Sunday we get the rematch...Lights go out just as Cena is about to go for the five knuckle shuffle and Y2J appears in person clocking Cena with WWE Title he failed to win which led him to being fired at Summerslam 2005. Thus costing Cena the match leading to the feud that will finally clash at Mania 24. I can see them as 1 and 2 to Start the Rumble in 08. Similar to Y2J and HBK back in 2003.Also Captains of there own Survivor Series Team etc. This is the best way to get the title off Cena without making him look weak and going into Mania without the belt. places Cena slap in the middle of biggest feud in the WWE and his biggest feud ever. Which still puts Cena as the focal point of Raw and the WWE. Since there hard up keeping Cena in the spotlight.
Storyline wise people will be glued to to there TVs, TIVO across the globe set. DVR in place every week just to see the storyline progress. They can go so many ways with this. Exciting times in WWE HHH and McMahon is just gonna lead to HHH and Kennedy, Edge and Taker on the horizon things are looking up. LOL no pun intended. As Y2J said in 1999. We should jump up and down wave or fists in the air and scream "GO Jericho GO" "GO Jericho GO"... The countdown is on and the our savior is on the way... :headbanger:
y2j8679
09-25-2007, 07:43 PM
Apparently i am the only one putting this together......look closely again....it says wm_99 LOCATOR towards the end....figure it out..... wmania in 99 was in philly.....raw goes there oct 29.....day after cyber sunday......am i the only one who has figured it out?????
Great Point we will be teased up until Cyber Sunday. Now u bring that up I can see the WWE playin this out and Cena will lose his rematch to Orton in the fans choice at Cyber allowing Orton to retain. Maybe the video will have something to do with by Cena being distracted or Y2J jus shows and like I mentioned before clocks Cena in the head with the WWE title and explains his action on his return to Raw in Philly Oct 29th. Maybe they will announce that Regal hired a former WWE Champion to impress McMahon by one-uping Coach. Will see but great point. :blink:
JuggaloNinja666
09-25-2007, 07:47 PM
IF YOU LOOK AT THE 19 SECOND MARK YOU CAN SEE THAT IT SAYS THE WORDS SUMMER PROMO 08! I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A CLUE ABOUT JERICHOS RETURN!! BUT THERE ALSO MIGHT BE A CLUE ABOUT JERICHO RETURNING AT CYBER SUNDAY, BECAUSE OF THE MATRIX STYLE OF THE VIDEO BUT MAYBE IT MIGHT BE JUST THE WAY THEY DO IT FOR THE Y2J GIMMICK!!!
Ok If You Listen Hard Enough You Can Here In The Middle Its Pretty Much The Background Beat To Jericho's Theme, Break The Walls Down. Also If You Watch Jerichos Titan Tron Video You'll See In The Back That Its Similar Blue Metallic Writing As In The Cryptic Video. If This Helps, I Don't Know If It Does But In The Video You Can See These Things, RAW_WAR2.action, RAW_WAR3.action, And RAW_WAR4.action, WM99_locator.action Three Times Too. You Can Also See SAVE_US.222, LIVEWIRE_OPEN, BAT_ASS_WEEK1, RAW_DOUBLE_FIN, WM99_MATCH_TRIP. You Can Also See RAW_REV_MAY2.
simpsons_fanatic742
09-25-2007, 07:50 PM
I found a clip of the video that is slowed down to 1 frame/second. It shows alot of new things that haven't been mentioned. From this video, I finally saw the CD_Volume4_1 thing and the countdown at the end plus lots of other stuff. Here's the link...
http://www.dailymotion.com/tag/wwe/video/x32c9x_saveus222
cooldude0782
09-25-2007, 08:00 PM
heres what i think,im thinking vince was wanting all of us internet people to come up with 500 billion "clues" in this video just to make us all think REAL hard,but beleive me,i think that all these 500 billion clues leading to jericho arent just coincidence,i do think jericho is returning at no mercy in a angle like omg i think i got something,i bet jericho attacks cena or orton in the LMS match causing one of the two to win,leading into jericho being in to title contention.IF he returns IF
sorry for the DP but does anyone have a link to the "not coinciedental) sign of save us jericho or whatever?
boogyman92
09-25-2007, 08:19 PM
it has got to be the one and only y2j chris jerico, soooo many points to him - people have been saying gail kim and billy gun, if it was them they wouldent do a video pagage for them, thely appear in dak matches then debut to raw, but, chris jerico, he was/is a very big maineventer superstar, and would do a big thing for his return, lita, dont know were that came from, someguy said it in a article, if it is her, i'll be very happy. But 7OCT 2007 could be the awited big return of: y2j!
jblaze1
09-25-2007, 08:30 PM
Just my opinion, but I think this could mean the return of the "Attitude" Era...
It said raw is war, and the rock, smackdown, etc, also said 19_99 real fast
could mean the year 1999 which was the attitude era. And it showed a few pay per views... very weird... But its more than just Jericho... I think
PlatynumX420
09-25-2007, 08:33 PM
Thought i d throw this out there dont think i ve seen it posted yet.
Jericho's original debu,t date was august 9. I believe this is the 222nd day of the year(if i counted right. it's been a long day) Jericho said he was there to save the wwf(as it was then). save_us.222 definately has some tie in to Jericho.I really hope it is him. I was such a huge Jericho mark....
familymark
09-25-2007, 08:41 PM
ok i have to agree on jericho coming back but after doing some research it could be D LO Brown, first he was born on 10-22-72, he was supposed to have a match aired on 10-07-99 on smackdown, he wrestled on heat and jakked metal, and he wrestled at wrestlemania 1999 with test for the tag team championship. these were just a few things I found I hope it is jericho though.
Jericho
09-25-2007, 09:10 PM
I think without a doubt that the video means the return of Y2J.In addition to all of the other clues that point to Y2J,i also caught FINISH_DOUBLE which could refer to the double powerbomb that he used for a finisher and RAW_TRON which could refer to his debut on RAW in which he was shown on the TitanTRON right before coming out and interupting The Rock.Watch the video frame by frame and all you see is references to Chris Jericho....it could mean he is returning at Cyber Sunday but then again 7OCT appears over and over which is October 7th....October 7th is No Mercy in the Allstate Arena....the very same arena in which Y2J made his WWE debut.CATMAN also appears alot which has to refer to LionHeart,another name Y2J is known by.There are loads of more clues in the video that lead back to Y2J one way or another.
Xander
09-25-2007, 10:32 PM
I was pausing and playing the video earlier today, and caught something on 6.9 seconds. It says SKITTLES_SLAM. Summerslam 2005 was sponsored by Skittles if I remember correctly, and it was the last Pay-Per-View appearance of Chris Jericho.
Thestevester7
09-25-2007, 10:45 PM
the video appeared again on ECW...looked to be the same....I really hope this is Chris Jericho he would be the spark that the WWE needs right now
tejadamvp
09-25-2007, 11:04 PM
Alright if Jericho is coming back on October 7th, he will miss a few Raws after that, also i think that there will be more hype to his return. They will build up his return for months if its him. Also, the WWE could e trying to make everyone think hes coming back on October 7th, so that people will go out and buy the PPV. Also the 222 could be a date. February 22nd. This is a Friday which means SmackDown. I hope he comes back on Raw and sooner but i dont know. Also as i noted earlier he would miss some raws. As if you look on ChrisJericho.com You can see his book signing schedule. On Raw November 5th Raw takes place in California. And Jericho is signing books on November 4th and 6th in New Jersey. Yes he could fly to California, and back to New Jersey, but it would be a little weird. And yes he could change his book signing schedule. So there were some points as to why Jericho may not becoming back too soon, but i do believe the video is about Jericho and he will be back.. I hope all this is not for dLo Brown, that would suck
fed_up_fan
09-25-2007, 11:29 PM
I saw May2in the video at one point. anyone know what thats in reference to?
oh yeah, the 222 doesnt refer to the bible, at lest not the way so many are speculating. when locating passages in the bible, the first number represents the chapter, the second number is the verse, therefore, 222 cant refer to the book of joshua because chapter 2 verse 22 makes no mention of jericho at all.
a7xoff
09-25-2007, 11:40 PM
All I have to say is... Congradulations WWE for actually making us think and be amped up for something. Everyone's sayin how sick it'd be if Y2J cam back, well if this is how WWE plans to make it happen then kudos to them, cause it's sure makin us think at this point
a7xoff
09-25-2007, 11:57 PM
Hmm I think I found something very interesting... Looking at all the screenshots I found by my own doing and searching the web...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Hydraminion/3.jpg
A couple of things here... 1 is obviously the number 3, and 2 if you look closley, it may be the way the numbers are shaped, but if you follow around the zero above the three and actually wrap around the left side of it you get the letter Y...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Hydraminion/2.jpg
The number 2 so now you got Y2 and also something interesting... Jericho's video started with a 3-2-1 countdown if I'm not mistaken...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Hydraminion/1.jpg
This is the number 1 completing a 3-2-1 countdown also if you look closley the bottom of the number above the 1 could act like a J... Thus Y2J, Hell I could be completly off with this, but from reading around and talkin to other people it seems logical...
Freedom 35
09-26-2007, 12:06 AM
Hmm I think I found something very interesting... Looking at all the screenshots I found by my own doing and searching the web...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Hydraminion/3.jpg
A couple of things here... 1 is obviously the number 3, and 2 if you look closley, it may be the way the numbers are shaped, but if you follow around the zero above the three and actually wrap around the left side of it you get the letter Y...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Hydraminion/2.jpg
The number 2 so now you got Y2 and also something interesting... Jericho's video started with a 3-2-1 countdown if I'm not mistaken...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y191/Hydraminion/1.jpg
This is the number 1 completing a 3-2-1 countdown also if you look closley the bottom of the number above the 1 could act like a J... Thus Y2J, Hell I could be completly off with this, but from reading around and talkin to other people it seems logical...
that looks good but that seems like it takes too much though and you've got to remember Vince McMahon thinks fans are stupid. props for the work you put into that but its probably a little far out, that kinda reminds me of something I saw during the illegitimate son controversy someone pointed out that "things are looking up" could be rearranged to spell "oh its going real punk" it looks good but I just dont think theyd put the time into something like that
a7xoff
09-26-2007, 12:07 AM
Yah I was figuring as much, but I had most of the day to do nothing, so I spent alot of time looking for stupid little things, your right though... that's probably way too complex for WWE
dnestor11
09-26-2007, 12:35 AM
I haven't ever posted here before. Been reading for months. Here is a .rar of the audio in great quality backwards and forwards. You can listen and play around with windows sound recorder.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P6EI4CXA
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/images/icons/icon14.gif
a7xoff
09-26-2007, 12:48 AM
This really isn't Jericho related, but in the video I also saw
SURVIVOR_reunion
I think... not sure, that HBK is set to return around Survivor series, possibly DX related, but I'm still leaning more towards a Y2J type deal though.
bowlinbing
09-26-2007, 01:18 AM
the crowd signs next week should say "if that matrix video was for F***in' D'Lo Brown WE RIOT". That would really be the WWE's line of thinking though, lure us all in with the hope that just maybe WWE has the sensibility to bring back a good in-ring worker, who still had the charism to win over the fans. So often you note that the technicians, eg William Regal, Shelton Benjamin, Finlay, Val Venis, etc, never rise above mid-card status. there are a number of exceptions of course, but I digress, WWE could certainly use Jericho especially if he is in ring shape and can put on quality matches.
funkidelicbill
09-26-2007, 01:52 AM
If you watch the video when Jericho first came to the WWF, he clearly states near the end that he is there to SAVE the WWF. Check it out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFX7_4uTqhI
theres a bunch of weird codes in it, a couple say, wm99_match and wm00_match and theres on that says Big_Show and OCT/action/RAW_WAR and summerslam this and then smackdown that and then it showed the word "sapphire" on the screen for a little bit, is Jericho's birthstone a sapphire? BTW: I slowed it down with my DVR
chief
09-26-2007, 02:26 AM
I think I have cracked it, and you are all going to kick yourselves.
CATMAN
Its nothing to do with Lionheart or Lionsault,
the Catman is..
Ernest 'the Cat' Miller
SOMEBODY CALL MY MAMMA!!!
Haha, I don't really believe that, but I would rather that than D'Lo.
Hopefully next weeks Raw will add another clue!
There is a video somewhere on youtube of a guy who has slowed it down and reversed it, and you hear the words 'Come on' in it twice (like in the old theme), and the drums sound similar to that of Y2J's old theme music, its a long shot, but it sounds good.
Hopefully, it will end up being Y2J,
SAVE US 222!!!!!
Inferno30
09-26-2007, 02:28 AM
I would absolutely love to see Jericho come back, but I think you guys are completely over analyzing this video. "Trace the empty space around the 2 and the 3 and it kind of looks like a Y if you squint and tilt your head to the left". "It says Sapphire in there, and I'm pretty sure Y@J's uncle has adog whos birthstone is a Sapphire". This is WWE, not the CIA
at the very end of the video, it goed 3,2,1 and then it ends, that alone might give i away right there, it was just, there, i really didnt over analyze it, i just saw it, so im pretty sure it is Jericho, even though i saw Big_Show in it, but isnt Paul Wight done with the WWE?
Vee Dub Represent
09-26-2007, 04:00 AM
I think that this video is WWE at its best. I for one have barely given 2 shits about RAW for a while now, but i can guarantee you that I will go out of my way to watch RAW next week just to see where this stupid little 17 second clip goes. This had the feel of an attitude promo where noone knows what the hell is going to happen but cant wait to find out. And yes indeed I do beieve that this is the return of Y2J.
YIPPIE KI YAY!
09-26-2007, 07:11 AM
With the video also featuring cyber sunday attributes,at cyber sunday in the orton vs cena match,they're in the ring look at the titontron to see the poll reults and the results turn to all these numbers popping up and then this video could play again and then "BREAK THE WALLS DOWN" plays and he is added to the match,i think that would be cool,cyber sunday is the 222nd wwe ppv
Joker ' Ferreira
09-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Its that correct of Cyber Sunday being the 222nd WWE PPV of all time?
Then, I believe that he could be a special referee for a WWE Championship Match.
Hendo9
09-26-2007, 08:42 AM
I cant see him returning at Cyber Sunday in a fan vote thing. He will be revealed to be coming back then which would take something away from his actual return.
Think of the pop he would get if in the No Mercy Main Event the SAVE_US.222 video played, but it was extended more and the countdown was more emphasized and then the whole arena went black.. Y2J comes out, trademark pose at the top of the ramp with his back to the ring, and fireworks, and a new Y2J logo comes up on the screen. WOW, just thinking about me gets me excited for his return.
He best be back for the UK tour too as im going to both shows in Birmingham
mouthforcombat
09-26-2007, 09:23 AM
It's not code. The only thing WWE intended for people to see was the save.us222. The rest of it is just filler and random numbers. We're all over analyzing this way too much. It is fun to think of Jericho returning, and may happen. However, they wouldn't put clues in the promo that anyone sitting at home can't see on their TV.
Moneymaker_90
09-26-2007, 09:44 AM
I do hope it is Y2J. And the video seems to point at it.If it isn't Jericho it will be another wrestler. I claim this because PPV's should be known, not envolved in mistery. I do believe that there are clues in the video and maybe next week the video wil be longer.
Mad Metal
09-26-2007, 10:28 AM
I'm now reading that for sure the "SAVE_US.222" indeed is to hype someone or a group coming in which it's currently being said that there was a plan to hype the debut of New Hart Foundation pretty damn good and that they want to make a huge surprise of Chris Jericho's WWE return. However, I am determined indeed this is Jericho's return. 9 seconds mark there was a voice that said "I'm Back". All clues points to Chris Jericho, crystal clear. The theme, the countdown, "Save Us", the background music sounded similar to Jericho's old theme and this is suppose to be the time period he is to make his return.
It's been years since the WWE did something like this to actually question many fans and at the same time get them very hyped. I love it!
dalestar
09-26-2007, 11:35 AM
I Thought That save_us_222 Meant That Every Week It Would Change Leading up to Cyber Sunday,save_us_Y22, save_us_Y2J, etc.
y2j14616
09-26-2007, 11:37 AM
i think its not chris jericho return i want it to be but if u watch that video again and pause it at the 2 second mark u can clearly see it say Cyber on it so its prolly just a cyber sunday vid plus they showed it on Ecw.
wildfiregc
09-26-2007, 11:42 AM
OK I watched the mcgruder video and even used my DVR and it just isn'tt hat easy to frame by frame. I did not hear a voice that said I'm back. I however did here music what is the song playing? It sounds like that one song they play at the begining of RAW. I also hear a woman moaning. The only thing I saw very clearly was Saveus_222 which if you type into the wwe search you get nothing. So it is a mystery I am not sure if they are talking jericho though I think it is more an ad for a new attitude area or basically the change we have been asking for. Who knows what that means. I am not saying its not jericho I am saying it is not obviously jericho though.
scorpionz_venom
09-26-2007, 11:53 AM
I'll tell ya this, Maluco, if Jericho returns and beats the crap outta Cena, we will see Cena begin a slow heel turn. People will rally behind a "bad ass" version of y2j. As for the message, I'd laugh my ass off if it was, like, jbl reuniting with simmons to reform the apa or sid vicious or something, and all you conspiracy theorists are up in arms. P.S. put your lips on her beave and say "conspiracy theorists" as fast as you can 100 times. You'll like the results.
dalestar
09-26-2007, 12:04 PM
There Seems To Be A Reference To Cyber Sunday, Its Says demos/cyberastronomy/data
Mad Metal
09-26-2007, 12:21 PM
There Seems To Be A Reference To Cyber Sunday, Its Says demos/cyberastronomy/data
Eh, like I said in a response, the term cyber doesn't necessarily mean or have to be a reference to "Cyber Sunday". The term "cyber" is common with computers. Cyber can be short for cybernetic:
the study of human control functions and of mechanical and electronic systems designed to replace them, involving the application of statistical mechanics to communication engineering.
tejadamvp
09-26-2007, 12:34 PM
theres a reference to everything, october 7th, and cyber sunday, so when ur dissapointed he doesnt come on October 7th (which u will but the PPV to see, then u will by Cyber Sunday because u will thinks its then. Also, i have a question on ECW did the the number 222 change to something like 221? It could be a countdown to a return. If it is Jericho he wont be back until 2008 as WWE is going to hype it forever
tejadamvp
09-26-2007, 12:39 PM
If it is a countdown as i said, which it very well could not be, the date would be May 2nd, a friday, that date was also seen in the video. Just a thought, but i would think he would be back before WM
f_roEDGE
09-26-2007, 12:43 PM
Well, too be honest, the video was showing a couple things that referenced to Billy Gunn.
1. BAT_ASS being one of them
2. WM99_TRIPLE, he was in a triple threat at WM99 or Wrestlemania 15
3. The last digit seen was 1, may be a reference to "THE ONE" Billy Gunn.
and, the most startling to me....
3. KOR_13, the thirteenth King of the Ring tournament, which he won.
There were more references to Billy Gunn than Jericho, but I think that all that nonsense in the background was just to make it look interesting.
The SAVE_US.222 still concerns me, but more than likely this promo is actually for Chris Jericho.
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 12:44 PM
I dont think they will hype it until 2008 if it ir jericho(Which i wanna say im positive it is him.) On Raw they only have about 3 main superstars, cena orton and hhh, tell u the truth everyone is sick of them in the highspot. smackdown has ede coming back a couple months, undertaker kane batista finlay khali. Jericho will not go to ecw i can guarantee that, he will be put on raw and possibly a cena heel turn since he isnt working out too good as a face. honestly i think its the main reason ratings have gone down, everyone is sick of him, thats one of the reasons i cut down watching it so much. too predictable
As for the video. Jericho all the way
i saw OCT7 which is no mercy.
He has all mondays off his book signing the month of october
it could end up being a countdown
This is my theory and this would be mad cool
this week they show save us 222
next week its save us 22
at no mercy they will show the video save us 2
and then pyros will go off and on the save us video it will show save us y2j and he will come out
just a thought and maybe a possibilty
Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger
09-26-2007, 12:54 PM
Like the whole entire video in some sort seems basically demonic, We all know the WWE has a way to get our hopes up but then eventually shoots us down and we become very disappointed. There have been so many references in this video package. who knows it could hyping up cyber sunday for all we know. Like the only thing is saw really was I heard " I'm back" and i seen the save us _222. Not everything is certain though, all in all i am confident that it is Jericho but maybe it is the Hart Foundation because it doesnt really matter who it is because when they debut they are going to get a pop because this is highly anticipated. I hope it is chris jericho but like i said before in my earlier post that save us 222 thing makes logical sense.
this week Save_ us 222
next week Save_us 22j
the week after.... the week leading up to no mercy....Save_us Y2j.
not everything is certain but we as the fans got our hopes up and by god we are all anticipating Jericho or even the New Hart Foundation.
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:09 PM
Its deffinetly not cyber sunday promo. Cyber Sunday isnt until after no mercy. the way no mercys card is loooking right now, its going to be a decent ppv.. better than the past several. they dont need to start hyping up cyber sunday already, its not even a really popular ppv to be honest.
the countdown idea is what i have a feeling is going to happen
they might even make a whole diff video with different codes and what not
more for us to talk about haha
noone911
09-26-2007, 01:11 PM
Where is everyone getting:
Save_ us 222
Save_us 22j
Save_us Y2j
Why are people saying that. Is that something you just made up or can you provide why that would make sense with the 222 changing like that, other than the fact that there are 2's in the name and Y2J
Someone tell me...
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:13 PM
plus if it was for cyber sunday, they wouldnt show little codes talking about diff ppvs like wrestlemania and survivor series
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:20 PM
if no one has noticed the countdown at the end. it shwos all the codes and the last two numbers u see is all the codes leaving the screen and the last ones are 3 2 1
Thumz9814
09-26-2007, 01:20 PM
This cant be a countdown. It still said Save_Us.222 last night on ECW. Here's what I figure will happen.
These ads will continue to run until Oct.7 at No Mercy. That night, Cena will win his match with Orton. Just as he begins to celebrate the lights will go out and the video will play.
The next night on Raw, Cena will begin to congradulate himself on continuing his winning streak, then the video will show again. Every Raw until Cyber Sunday the video will show whenever Cena is in the ring. At Cyber Sunday, Cena (champion) will be standing in the ring as the votes (pertaining to who will face him for his championship) are about to be shown. As the votes climb, the numbers go kookoo, and the video will play again. The term Save_Us.222 will stay on the screen, and will somehow change to Y2J. A pyro goes off, and the votes reveal that Y2J got 100% of the votes. Whether he becomes champion on that night, I'm not sure, but he probably will.
Some may think this is a bit far-fetched, but as far as I'm concerned, it incorperates most of the clues/hints/dates givin in the video that point to CJ. This is just what I figure will happen.
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:22 PM
also if u listen to the beginning of chris jerichos theme song. it sounds just like the music on the promo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhLdefRd9Bo&mode=related&search=
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:28 PM
they wont bring someone who hasnt been in the ring for 2 years right into the title picture let alone give him the title
Xander
09-26-2007, 01:30 PM
I have no idea how you people are turning Save_Us.222 into Save_Us.Y2J. Seems to be stretching it a bit. Agian, I will give my insight on what I saw on the video . . .
At the 6.9 second mark, it reads SKITTLES_SLAM. Summerslam 2005 was sponsered by Skittles, and it was the last Pay-Per-View Chris Jericho took a part of.
they wont bring someone who hasnt been in the ring for 2 years right into the title picture let alone give him the title
When he does come back, John Cena isn't going to have the title. He's going to fued with Cena because the night after Summerslam 2005, Cena and Jericho took part in a "You're Fired" match and Jericho lost. Jericho will be coming back to fued with John Cena, but not for the title because Randy Orton will be the WWE Champion.
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:33 PM
i saw that.
No mercy is what I think. I saw OCT7 layered scross the background of the video. the video has nothing to do with cyber sunday
Also i read something about he might come back as a heel
Honestly. it wont work, they try to bring him back as a heel, everyone is going to cheer for him either way, he has been gone for 2 years and he was deffinelty a fan favorite and one of the best. I speculate a cena heel turn
Xander
09-26-2007, 01:34 PM
^John Cena looks to be turning into a heel from the actons that they have him doing. Yes, he's fueding with the top heel at the moment, but once Randy Orton wins the title, I think Cena's going to go "crazy" and basically attack every one.
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:35 PM
I have no idea how you people are turning Save_Us.222 into Save_Us.Y2J. Seems to be stretching it a bit. Agian, I will give my insight on what I saw on the video . . .
At the 6.9 second mark, it reads SKITTLES_SLAM. Summerslam 2005 was sponsered by Skittles, and it was the last Pay-Per-View Chris Jericho took a part of.
When he does come back, John Cena isn't going to have the title. He's going to fued with Cena because the night after Summerslam 2005, Cena and Jericho took part in a "You're Fired" match and Jericho lost. Jericho will be coming back to fued with John Cena, but not for the title because Randy Orton will be the WWE Champion.
I was replying to someone who said jericho is coming back at cyber sunday to defeat cena at cyber sunday. Im aware orton is winning the title at no mercy. but i dont expect a jericho heel return, more likely a cena heel
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 01:38 PM
my estimation. it has to be jericho, I could understand a couple things showed up that might speculate jericho. but with all of this evidence, there is just no way its a coincidence. plus I know jericho and wwe have been talking for the past few months and now this comes up.
JayAvarice
09-26-2007, 02:04 PM
I don't want to throw anyone for a loop but did anything think this could possibly be a Sid Vicious thing? I doubt it because of the interviews he did about not being able to pass the wellness test but just a thought. I though don't see it being anyone else but Jericho which is fine by me anyways!
Stevenic
09-26-2007, 02:11 PM
This cant be a countdown. It still said Save_Us.222 last night on ECW. Here's what I figure will happen.
These ads will continue to run until Oct.7 at No Mercy. That night, Cena will win his match with Orton. Just as he begins to celebrate the lights will go out and the video will play.
The next night on Raw, Cena will begin to congradulate himself on continuing his winning streak, then the video will show again. Every Raw until Cyber Sunday the video will show whenever Cena is in the ring. At Cyber Sunday, Cena (champion) will be standing in the ring as the votes (pertaining to who will face him for his championship) are about to be shown. As the votes climb, the numbers go kookoo, and the video will play again. The term Save_Us.222 will stay on the screen, and will somehow change to Y2J. A pyro goes off, and the votes reveal that Y2J got 100% of the votes. Whether he becomes champion on that night, I'm not sure, but he probably will.
Some may think this is a bit far-fetched, but as far as I'm concerned, it incorperates most of the clues/hints/dates givin in the video that point to CJ. This is just what I figure will happen.
this is actually a very good idea. cena lost the title to a surprise (edge NYR 2006), and MOTB when RVD cashed it in. so if cena is to loose the title again it could be the surprise of y2j returning
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 02:24 PM
It wont be cyber sunday. On his book signings he has every monday off and the date of cyber sunday(oct28) He is scheduled for a book signing in NOrth carolina and cyber sunday takes place in washington DC. I dont see the chances of him getting ready, leaving, warm up, etc. in a short matter of time
No mercy
tejadamvp
09-26-2007, 02:27 PM
That could happen but just to throw this out there Jericho has a book signing that day IN North Carolina and the PPV's in Washington D.C., and yes i know he could easily fly to D.C., but just pointing this out
I kinda hope that next week they make a new video, but add more clues to point away from Jericho. This nis getting the world talking, I'd love it if things went the wrong way, and then Jericho came out on a random episode of RAW, NOT at a PPV or "7OCT" as they think it's gonna be.
Thumz9814
09-26-2007, 02:55 PM
When he does come back, John Cena isn't going to have the title. He's going to fued with Cena because the night after Summerslam 2005, Cena and Jericho took part in a "You're Fired" match and Jericho lost. Jericho will be coming back to fued with John Cena, but not for the title because Randy Orton will be the WWE Champion.
Ok, well, let's say they give the belt to Orton. Who's going to feud with him? It has to be a face. John Cena will be against Y2J, HHH will be busy with Vince. I guess Mr. Kennedy may turn face, but I figure he's gonna be involved with the HHH/Vince fued. Who does that leave to take on Orton? Carlito? Hardcore Holly? When you look at the roster, the only person that would make any sense would be Cody Rhodes, but they're not gonna give him a title shot.
I figure Orton will get the title sometime soon, but not before they find a way to give Cena a nice long vacation, and that isnt going to happen before he feuds with Y2J (if he is actually coming back, of course)
packman_08
09-26-2007, 03:10 PM
i really do have a feeling that Y2J will return to fued with john cena but there is also a possability he could return to feud with orton.i would love to see mr.kennedy vs orton for the title sometime down the line.the save us 222 could be for anything.i heard it could be for a y2j return or the new hart foundation debut.
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 03:24 PM
there are so many hints as to it being jericho. way too many. Its about 99 percent obvious its jericho. but there is that one percent, because wwe could be doing anything with this and just leading us on, thinking its jericho. may lead to hard foundation, ive heard people think it could be sid vicous, i heard it could the rock. but its almost positive its jericho. wait till next week to see what they do with it and we will take it from there
wildfiregc
09-26-2007, 03:39 PM
I have one very interesting thing if you type in Court Bauer and Chris Jericho into a yahoo search engine you get a story from another site quoting PWTorch. The story is about the hiring of Court Bauer but the interesting part is that CJ was leaving the company in the next paragraph. Now Court Bauer is the person being reported as having the viral marketing idea. I think maybe this is interesting you have a guy who comes into the company. Court Bauer is into unique wrestling and he has a viral marketing plan. I see this is good proof that this could very well be good proof that Y2J is on his way.
RatedRKOSuperstar
09-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Was it just me or was there an 7Oct phrase in there. Which is really No Mercy.
solid shake
09-26-2007, 03:46 PM
I could of swore I saw jeff hardys name In there.
I just saw on a YouTube version of this video that appearently, Either Cyber Sunday or No Mercy will actually be the WWEs 222nd PPV. I'm to busy, but does anyone wanna research this one?
treebringer
09-26-2007, 04:00 PM
I just know that if it isn't Jericho there are going to be a ton of really pissed fans...
zack25mac
09-26-2007, 04:14 PM
I think the fact that its Jericho is positive. The real arguement here is when he will come back. No mercy or Cyber Sunday. clues lead both ways really. I think no mercy cause of the 7OCT throughoutthe video and also he debuted in chicago and No mercy also takes place in chicago
This cant be a countdown. It still said Save_Us.222 last night on ECW. Here's what I figure will happen.
These ads will continue to run until Oct.7 at No Mercy. That night, Cena will win his match with Orton. Just as he begins to celebrate the lights will go out and the video will play.
The next night on Raw, Cena will begin to congradulate himself on continuing his winning streak, then the video will show again. Every Raw until Cyber Sunday the video will show whenever Cena is in the ring. At Cyber Sunday, Cena (champion) will be standing in the ring as the votes (pertaining to who will face him for his championship) are about to be shown. As the votes climb, the numbers go kookoo, and the video will play again. The term Save_Us.222 will stay on the screen, and will somehow change to Y2J. A pyro goes off, and the votes reveal that Y2J got 100% of the votes. Whether he becomes champion on that night, I'm not sure, but he probably will.
Some may think this is a bit far-fetched, but as far as I'm concerned, it incorperates most of the clues/hints/dates givin in the video that point to CJ. This is just what I figure will happen.
Wow that's sweet, good idea.
park_wwe
09-26-2007, 04:26 PM
In 1 thing I Found it says ( 07/OCT/Action)= debuted in chicago and No mercy also takes place in chicago
2ND thing I Found (Summer Open)= Summer 1999: A mysterious "Count-down to the Millenium" clock appeared on a weekly basis but nobody knew what it was..
3RD thing I Found ( Smack Brought)= SD!: Curtis Hughes beat Ken Shamrock by DQ with a masked referee named El Dopo. ( SMACKDOWN debut)
4TH thing I Found (wm99_match) and (Double)= Double title mach Wrestlemania 16: Kurt Angle vs Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit fought in a 2-falls match for both the IC & Euro titles..
~~~Benoit beat Jericho to win Angle's Intercontinental Title | Jericho beat Benoit to win Angle's European Title..
5,6,7 things I Found is (Heat_Next3, Heat_Next2, Heat_Next3)= Count-down clock
8th thing I Found is (GM) (RAW)=John Cena defeated Chris Jericho in a "You're Fired" match resulting in Y2J being FIRED by Eric Bischoff (RAW GM at the time)!
9th thing I Found is (save us 222) WWE's 222nd pay-per-view is cyber sunday
Xander
09-26-2007, 05:43 PM
In search of clues, I found some thing out . . . WrestleMania 1999 (XV) WAS NOT Chris Jericho's WrestleMania debut. It was WrestleMania 2000, where he faced Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle.
MR.SCOTT
09-26-2007, 05:49 PM
Well this has done one thing for all of the internet wrestling community, its revitalised the industry and makes us salivate in what will happen next, lets tune into the next raw and see shall we???
Btw you can email chris off of his official site why doesnt anyone ask him the question are you coming back?
Xander
09-26-2007, 05:51 PM
^Because big name celebrties don't give into answering important questions.
It's like when I ran into John5 backstage at the Deftones concert and asked him "Why did Rob Zombie drop the Heaven and Hell Tour?" He, like a true show man, said that there was some thing "bigger and better" offered. Apparently, it was the tour with Ozzy Osbourne that is happening in mid-Oct.
cooldude0782
09-26-2007, 06:12 PM
gosh im about to have a heart attack waiting on raw,i wonder if the video will be have somewhat newer stuff next leading to more hints?
you gotta take it as the ratings are gunna go way up just in hopes for more in a return on Y2J!!!!
Skullz Crack'Em
09-26-2007, 06:36 PM
This is going to be the one big break fans wanted for the longest time. It is obviously Jericho since most of the clues have something related to him so I doubt WWE is pulling our legs on this one. RAW is the best place for him to go, you have the whole "Cena got Y2J fired" storyline to pick up on so Jericho can get his revenge on Cena and not to mention RAW is Jericho! Some of you may think that he will be buried by HHH and Cena on RAW, that is ridiculous, why would WWE hype his return with mysterious video packages that have the fans going crazy(which hasn't happened in years for the fans to be this excited for a true surprise) and cannot wait for his highly anticipated return if they will only keep him away from the WWE title? WWE had no problem making him the first ever Undisputed Champion did they? When he returns he will get another title run sometime in 2008, bank on it. I wouldn't mind if he went to SmackDown, but a year long feud with Batista over the World title is something I do not want to see Jericho get put in, and when I got a choice of feuds between Batista, Henry, Khali, Taker, Kane, Edge, and Mysterio OR Cena, HHH, Orton, Lashley, Kennedy, HBK, and Umaga, I would choose the latter. There is no point what so ever to put him on ECW, that brand is there to polish up Punk, Burke, and Morrison and to make Squash monsters out of the likes of Viscera and previously Snitsky, so Y2J would be jobbing more than ever if he was on ECW.
Thumz9814
09-26-2007, 07:18 PM
ok, I went to a site, and actually counted all of the PPV's that had WWF or WWE next to them, and the two ECW one night stands, and it turns out that No Mercy is going to be the 210th PPV. This means that the 222 does not have anything to do with the number of PPV's. Unless they are having 12 of them between now and May 2nd (another date listed in the video). I may have mis-counted so you can check it out for yourself at this site.
http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/other/wresatt.htm
thegame24
09-26-2007, 08:56 PM
I did a search of part of a line seen in the video. share/catman/u_man/cat3. It brought up this link http://www.cisl.ucar.edu/dbsg/media/sgitoc.d/812-0772-001.html
which is a content listing of a cd. I looked through that and also saw lines with bookshelves in them like in the video. Could the stuff in the video be files listed from a cd or dvd that has matches Jericho was involved in?
there was a part in the video near the beginning, it was a bunch of letters jumbled together, it was on he very left side, wat i saw was, sNuAx and i saw what could be the top of a capital T, so im guessing it said TsNuAx, which if you unscramble it, it says TNA sux, maybe there was meant to be more letters or something, but that is what i saw and thought.
justinsayne
09-26-2007, 10:32 PM
Anybody think this could all be for Edge's return?, just a thought, I'm not buying the whole thing of it being for Y2J's return until I actually see him come out, WWE creative just hasn't shown the creativity to come up with something like this for Jericho's return, I'm thinking it's either for some newcomer(s), Edge's return, or possibily even a gimmick makeover for some one like Snitsky, which if it is for Snitsky, I'll LMAO!!!!
Thumz9814
09-26-2007, 10:43 PM
I find it odd that none of the announcers on Raw or ECW said anything about it, and that it isnt even remotely mentioned on wwe.com. Usually when something like this comes up the announcers will bring attention to it for at least a moment or two.
ironman1180
09-26-2007, 11:48 PM
I find it odd that none of the announcers on Raw or ECW said anything about it, and that it isnt even remotely mentioned on wwe.com. Usually when something like this comes up the announcers will bring attention to it for at least a moment or two.
They've ignored them before. Granted, they don't do it very often, but it's been done in the past. Hopefully, it WILL turn out to be Jericho, and he really CAN save the WWE from all the terrible press they've been getting lately.
eyehategod13
09-27-2007, 12:07 AM
Hello...
Im A Little New Here, And I Have To Say What Ever This Video Is
It Has Grabed The Attention Of Every Wrestling Nered In America, And I Personally Belive It To Be... Y2j
Also Does Anyone Know Were I Can Download This Video, I Would Like To Disect It Myself And See What I Come Up With
THe WHoLe FuCKiN SHoW
09-27-2007, 12:15 AM
if they are trying to get the ratings and our hopes up with this promo, i think they are going to succeed in doing both. but as much as i hope it has something to do with jericho, this is the wwe and they have a way of making anything that has potential to be entertaining completly suck. WWE needs this to be Jericho. all we can do now is wait and see.
the save us from the promo and jericho coming to save the wwf in 99 are more then coincidence tho, if you ask me.
Freedom 35
09-27-2007, 12:39 AM
the save us from the promo and jericho coming to save the wwf in 99 are more then coincidence tho, if you ask me.
I honestly think alot of the things in that video are coincidences just based on two facts
1. I dont think that the WWE wouldn't put that much effort into it to put in clues every 5 seconds of the video IMO theres only 1 clue in there probably something to do with save_us.222
and
2. Vince Mcmahon thinks the fans are stupid. who else but Vince changes a storyline in a week or makes some big storyline completely forgotten like it never happened after its over. like I said in number 1 I think theres one obvious clue in there and I think Vince wants it to be seen and have people think theyve figured it out but really have no idea what it means.
wel that my:twocents: on this topic for now
Shadowmancer
09-27-2007, 04:08 AM
There is a report that the entire idea of this kind of stuff is part of a viral marketing campaign, I hope it extends further than the videos like having stuff on the Website. and stuff like that. The idea of Viral marketing worked very well, look at Iron Maiden, they did Viral marketing in regards to the release of their latest album. This Got a lot of people interested. this should get people interested if more is done than just the video.
Thumz9814
09-27-2007, 12:21 PM
One of the big symbols for No Mercy this year is a dove. Any one else find this a bit odd? I'm thinking this may be another clue-tying into what shadowmancer said about planting clues other than the video. Did Y2J ever do anything with doves? Something with Fozzy maybe? Just throwing it out there.
razor7
09-27-2007, 01:06 PM
They have ignored them before a silloetted Ricky Steamboat breathed fire for weeks before they announced the dragon is coming. Sometimes the vignettes speak for themselves, what's kind of lame about this is the only message I suspect is Save_us.222 and the counting down.
People scrambling to find hidden messages are marking out for nothing and in their efforts they keep putting bad info out like Bible verses, the numbers changing and Cyber Sunday being the 222 PPV.
And as far as the WWE giving fans what they want with Jericho, I would really wait and see. I really believe this is his return, but that doesn't mean he will be booked properly/
Matt Hardy came back and they jobbed him to Edge after all the "We Want Matt" chants. Despite all the interest in the illegit kid, it turned out to be stupid.
DX came back and was a wash, and when the NWO was in WWE it was pathetic, and ECW is about as bad as WCW Thunder. Vince could bring Jericho in and job him to CENA and TRIPLE H.
jblaze1
09-27-2007, 01:26 PM
I think all of the video stuff just might be the hype for WWE'S New "Other" Website that will come out soon. It should feature a lot of classic stuff you can download, and etc... thats what I think this is all about.
HartsyThaiFood
09-27-2007, 01:49 PM
Here is my train of thought on this. Jericho coming back would be a HUGE deal to the WWE, assuming they properly use him. Anyway, part of me does believe he'll be back at No Mercy, but part of me thinks that them showing this graphic for only two weeks prior to the event is a bit rushed. If I remember the countdown clock correctly, it spanned out over weeks and weeks until that faithful autumn night. It wasn't something that came up a week before a PPV. Still, I really hope he returns at No Mercy, mainly because I'll be there.
Anyway, here is how I see this panning out. Next week on RAW, the weird techy graphic comes back, but this time at the end, it doesn't say SAVE__US.222, but rather, it says SAVE_US.22J. Then, No Mercy rolls around and Mr. Kennedy returns. He comes out on the mic, starts doing his normal schtick about how awesome he is and how he's back and blargh blargh blargh. Next thing you know, mid-promo, the graphic comes up on the 'tron, but this time, at the end it says "SAVE_US.Y2J" This cues pyro of some sort and Jericho is at the top of the ramp, leading to an undoubtedly hilarious exchange between Jericho and Mr. Kennedy, much how Jericho's debut in the WWF/E was years back with The Rock in the ring.
So basically, yeah, that's what I am pulling for. Makes sense to me.
razor7
09-27-2007, 02:12 PM
If this the case they could have simply said Save_Us.123 and then change the 1 and the 3. I think the Save_Us.222 simply means Jericho will once again claim he is here to save the WWE.
The 222 may mean nothing, as far as Jericho and Kennedy if they go that way, they will be wasting my time. Jericho vs. Kennedy while Cena and Orton fight over their belt, probably at some point in tag matches with their fathers is a waste of time. Simply put, have Jericho beat Cena for the belt to gain revenge and actually have a story that makes ef'n sense for a change.
And I don't the promo would be "undoubtedly hilarious."
Instead Jericho needs to come back and go straight into the title picture against Orton or Cena. If he goes to ECW or Smackdown, that would be like if Bischoff had sent Hall or Nash to Thunder instead of Nitro.
However, knowing Vince he will demand Jericho babysit Hornswoggle to get back in the WWE.
jblaze1
09-27-2007, 02:16 PM
okay folks, Im convinced it is jericho. he's the only one I know that uses the colors of ice blue and purple in his entry themes. its obvious....:xmen: :headbanger: and its probably a hype up for his new book.
razor7
09-27-2007, 02:18 PM
One of the big symbols for No Mercy this year is a dove. Any one else find this a bit odd? I'm thinking this may be another clue-tying into what shadowmancer said about planting clues other than the video. Did Y2J ever do anything with doves? Something with Fozzy maybe? Just throwing it out there.
No I don't find it odd at all because it has nothing to do with Jericho and he won't be at No Mercy. if he was they would tell you to get you to BUY the PPV.
If you start reading everything the WWE is doing into this one 5 second promo, you're going to be disappointed. Creative doesn't work that hard.
I don't expect Jericho back until the Survivor Series and he will probably debut on Raw the Monday prior or two Mondays prior to get you to buy it.
Vince wants your money and having Jericho appear in the blind doesn't get it.
HartsyThaiFood
09-27-2007, 02:19 PM
See, that's the thing. WWE and Vince know they need Jericho now more than ever. They wouldn't offer him a "seven figure salary" if they were going to just throw him in to some stupid angle or if they were going to have him job out to people. They will put him in an angle that makes sense.
Sure, seeing Jericho thrown in to an angle with Cena makes sense, but I dunno, I don't really see them re-introducing him like that. I see them taking a little time to build him up, again, before putting the belt on him. I just don't see him being thrown instantly in to the main event picture. Especially considering he has roughly two years worth of ring rust to shake off.
Then again, they just threw a belt on Lashley months ago, rather than building him up. So who knows. It's the WWE.
All I know is that it'll be a good ride for the next few weeks.
Here is my train of thought on this. Jericho coming back would be a HUGE deal to the WWE, assuming they properly use him. Anyway, part of me does believe he'll be back at No Mercy, but part of me thinks that them showing this graphic for only two weeks prior to the event is a bit rushed. If I remember the countdown clock correctly, it spanned out over weeks and weeks until that faithful autumn night. It wasn't something that came up a week before a PPV. Still, I really hope he returns at No Mercy, mainly because I'll be there.
Anyway, here is how I see this panning out. Next week on RAW, the weird techy graphic comes back, but this time at the end, it doesn't say SAVE__US.222, but rather, it says SAVE_US.22J. Then, No Mercy rolls around and Mr. Kennedy returns. He comes out on the mic, starts doing his normal schtick about how awesome he is and how he's back and blargh blargh blargh. Next thing you know, mid-promo, the graphic comes up on the 'tron, but this time, at the end it says "SAVE_US.Y2J" This cues pyro of some sort and Jericho is at the top of the ramp, leading to an undoubtedly hilarious exchange between Jericho and Mr. Kennedy, much how Jericho's debut in the WWF/E was years back with The Rock in the ring.
So basically, yeah, that's what I am pulling for. Makes sense to me.
I hope you got cheap tickets to No Mercy, because I cant see Jericho returning here :D
and regarding a feud with Mr kennedy right the way... mmhhmm, sounds good, but I think IF he returns soon, they are going to put him against Cena (raw) or Rey mysterio (sd), just a tought.
razor7
09-27-2007, 02:24 PM
LOL he doesn't need any build up. He's Chris Jericho. The videos are the build up.
Shawn Michaels came back after HOW MANY YEARS and went straight to the title picture?
Kevin Nash went straight to the title picture after his torn quad, Scott Steiner, Golderg all went straight to the title picture. REY MISTERIO straight to the title picture.
LOL sorry to say, that's exactly how they do it and the only reason Triple H isn't going straight to it is because the plan is probably for him to win it at Wrestlemania.
HartsyThaiFood
09-27-2007, 02:44 PM
Yeah, he is Chris Jericho. I know the man. He's long been my favorite guy in the business and I couldn't be happier to see him back.
All I'm saying is I wouldn't expect him to come at No Mercy and just interfere in a match for the title. With this video buildup program they have going now, they will probably have it play out with him coming out and just doing some mic work at No Mercy and over the next few weeks on RAW, including more than likely a jab at how he is coming to save the WWE and capture the title.
I'm sure the following night on RAW, we'd see Cena (assuming he retains the title, which I sort of feel at this point he will) come out and make mention of Jericho, prompting Jericho to come out and exchange barbs with him before, inevitably, getting taken out from behind by either Orton or Kennedy. That would nicely set up a little introductory feud for Jericho to get over in while Cena goes about defending his belt once more against some schmuck he will inevitably mop the floor with.
And all the while, this causes Cena and Jericho to work together against whoever is coming at them, yet with underlying hints of tension between the two. It will eventually boil over, probably around the time of Survivor Series, and end in a match between Jericho and Cena.
I mean, seriously. We've seen this angle dozens of times and places before. What makes you think the WWE would invest a totally fresh idea in to the concept of a feud between the two. It's not possible for Jericho to get over as a total heel, especially as he's returning. The fans know and love the guy. And Cena won't do a complete 180 in to a heel role. Kids and dames love him too much. So instead, they'll build them up, side by side, as the best of friends, with this united bond and alliance until, inevitably, Jericho has enough, snaps on Cena, and goes heel.
Seriously
razor7
09-27-2007, 03:01 PM
Jericho won't be at No Mercy doing mic work or anything else.
They don't need build up for Jericho-Cena or Jericho-Orton or Jericho-Triple H. Cody Rhodes needs build up, not Chris Jericho.
If they put Jericho and Cena together as friends, even with tension, it will suck. I don't even think I would watch that play out.
Uncle Sam
09-27-2007, 03:29 PM
Mr. Sam's 900th Post Extravaganza!
Like most other people, and like my signature at this time indicates, I am expecting it to be Chris Jericho. Of course, I could easily be confusing expectation with hope, as, although Jericho was never top of my list, he was always a favourite of mine. I'd rather they put him back in the main event picture, rather than with Kennedy, etc. Maybe even a program with Triple H in a "face vs. face" situation would be awesome, with Jericho inching out a win after a hard fought match, that sort of thing.
What would be the best is that Cena turns heel in this storyline (which I'm just assuming will happen at this point), hopefully before Y2J's return. That way, Jericho looks awesome coming back after all the hype and beating the crap out of the arrogant heel champion. The IWC would go nuts! Then again, I'm assuming a little too much. This storyline probably won't happen like that, probably won't even happen, at least straight away. Jericho might not even return, this could just be yet another over hyped "Mr. McMahon's son is Hornswoggle" situation. Which would suck, because we all want Jericho!
evdogg311
09-27-2007, 03:41 PM
I really hope they do this like when they brought him originally. A nice little build up would keep people watching, myself included. [i know when triple h came back/was coming back around summerslam i constantly watched RAW because of rumors he'd be coming back.] I like the idea of a feud with Kennedy. If Kennedy somehow came back and we all found out he was the illigitimate McMahon.. Jericho could interrupt the big announcement or ceremony or whatever, starting a good feud. I don't particularly want to see him in the title scene, but I think this is a good opportunity to get some ratings and help build someone like Kennedy up to championship status. Leading him to go on to a world title main event.
mochalman
09-27-2007, 03:46 PM
and the new member of DX goes to....... JERICHO! would be a sweet stable. HHH HBK and Y2J against Mcmahon and his alliance. would be awesome ratings and tons of storylines
jpfizzle
09-27-2007, 03:46 PM
before i watched the video for like the third time i thought there was no chance it was jericho, but now i deffo think it is.. i swear i saw the word ass!
when jericho first came to the wwe/ f it was as the saviour of the wwf and now they need him more than ever! i can just see him being used to rid the wwe of all the things people dont like atm.
if jericho comes back at least for the short term ratings would go up for definite.
zack25mac
09-27-2007, 05:26 PM
I really hope they do this like when they brought him originally. A nice little build up would keep people watching, myself included. [i know when triple h came back/was coming back around summerslam i constantly watched RAW because of rumors he'd be coming back.] I like the idea of a feud with Kennedy. If Kennedy somehow came back and we all found out he was the illigitimate McMahon.. Jericho could interrupt the big announcement or ceremony or whatever, starting a good feud. I don't particularly want to see him in the title scene, but I think this is a good opportunity to get some ratings and help build someone like Kennedy up to championship status. Leading him to go on to a world title main event.
if that ever happened ratings would go down. Jericho would be reduced to helping other peoples careers. they would use him like they do ric flair or umaga. I suspect a cena heel turn in the next few weeks for sure. even if y2j doesnt come back. Orton i feel will win the title. Cena and jericho feud for number one contender. In the mean time. HHH and orton feud for the time being and then it ends up to be fatal four way hell in the cell at wrestlemania, cena vs jericho vs orton vs hhh
that match would rocm at wrestlemania, it wouldnt be a flop like hbk vs cena
Rubberband Man
09-27-2007, 05:32 PM
Just a small observation to those that critisised the announcers for not acknowledging it... Not sure about ECW since it hasn't aired over here yet, but on Raw there was no WWE logo in the bottom left corner during the video. They could be trying to make it look as if it's got nothing to do with WWE.
Also, a way that they could debut him while subtly turning Cena heel could be to a very similar promo to his debut in '99 - have him interrupt a Cena promo and act the heel, but because it's such a huge return the fans go wild for it anyway, Cena's reaction being similar to The Rock's eight years ago with him basically telling Jericho to STFU (in a non-internet way) and giving Cena a bit of a more heelish personality while setting up for Jericho vs Cena, all of the fans behind Jericho and Cena slowly looking more and more heelish every week.
SAVE_US.222
US could stand for the US...
To save someone is to fight for the right of everyman...
And the song real American lasts for 222 seconds (minus the 5 seconds of commentry at the end)
the guy is Hulk Hogan
zack25mac
09-27-2007, 06:13 PM
Im sorry but that is the dumbest idea i have ever heard. to much substantial evidence is pointed towards jericho. the only thing people want to know is when he is comin back. honestly i think what they are doing is perfect. not revealing when hes coming back if it is him. dropping subtle hints to have everyone think its him. ratings will fly up next week since people are so interested what the video is next week. this is slowly getting the ratings back up. but its NOT Hogan
Thumz9814
09-27-2007, 06:26 PM
wwe talked about puting hidden messages for Jerichos return a few months ago. Here's one. I just went onto ign.com to check out SvR 2008, and there is an add to download a game...a game called JERICHO. Obviously, it could be a coincidence, but ya never know.
Also, Flame, good thought process...but no.
ratedmstar
09-27-2007, 06:50 PM
at the end of the video the screen shows:
WAR_FIN1.ttg.p
WAR_FIN2.ttg.p
HEAT_next3.ttg.p
HEAT_next2.ttg.p
HEAT_next1.ttg.p
This could be code for Jericho to return at No mercy as Raw is WAR, as it used to be known, has two episodes from date of first airing of the promo and HEAT has 3 episodes until the No Mercy Pay Per View
MonsterMash
09-27-2007, 06:50 PM
Whether or not it is Jericho, WWE has certainly managed to spark interest, something they severely need. Personally, I don't know if it is Jericho, but I can't deny that I to some extent hope it is.
If he were to come back, could they manage to turn the guy heel? If he attacks Cena, wouldn't the majority of people cheer him? I would think so.
CmPunkIsChamp
09-27-2007, 06:55 PM
222 could be related to a verse from the Bible: Joshua 2:2 verse 2 It was told the king of Jericho, saying, "Behold, men from the sons of Israel have come here tonight to search out the land."
Matisyahu
09-27-2007, 07:53 PM
Isn't that video that plays in the background of WWE No Mercy on N64?
thats hilarious but I believe I saw a brick wall at the beginning so maybe it is for Jericho but I doubt it
DK999
09-27-2007, 07:58 PM
222 could be related to a verse from the Bible: Joshua 2:2 verse 2 It was told the king of Jericho, saying, "Behold, men from the sons of Israel have come here tonight to search out the land."
There aren't 2 books of Joshua, dumbass.
kadercai
09-27-2007, 08:18 PM
near the end of the clip i says "7OCT/Action" so that mite mean we will find out then 7th of october
caifanes
09-27-2007, 08:25 PM
I found this on the Internet:
http://saveus222.com/
www.saveus222.info
saludos
powatwain
09-27-2007, 08:53 PM
I found this on the Internet:
http://saveus222.com/
www.saveus222.info
saludos
That 2nd site is pretty weird..
This is one of the better build ups WWE has done in a long long time.. Buzz around this one video is crazy.. Hope theres a new one on Monday
For the record, and although it was mentioned on the front page already but for those who missed it, this video was NOT shown here in Australia.
caifanes
09-27-2007, 09:41 PM
I found this on the Internet:
http://saveus222.com/
www.saveus222.info
saludos
Oh my god, look what I discover fromi this pages that I found:
"01011001010011110101010100100000010010110100111001 00111101010111001000000100110101000101"
this code means: YOU KNOW ME
and the other one:
01001001001001110110110100101110001011100010111
000100000011000110110111101101101011010010110111
001100111001011100010111000101110001
000000110001001100001011000110110
1011001011100010111000101110
Means: I'm... coming... back...
This is a big deal, and if you wonder how I found it, I use this:
http://www.theskull.com/javascript/ascii-binary.html
fed_up_fan
09-27-2007, 09:52 PM
222 could be related to a verse from the Bible: Joshua 2:2 verse 2 It was told the king of Jericho, saying, "Behold, men from the sons of Israel have come here tonight to search out the land."
i will say it again. each number represents somrthing when referencing the bible. ex:Joshua 2:2 means Joshua chapter 2 verse 2. stop saying Joshua 2:2 verse 2. am i the only one who paid attention in sunday school?
i get where you guys are coming from, but no, save us 222 has one to many 2's to cut it as a bible reference.
also, does anyone know what May2 means? i saw it in the video.
svtcougar
09-27-2007, 10:27 PM
From all this a couple valid points...someone mentioned all the other stuff we zoom in on ie. wm99, ass_ etc.. is nothing were suppose to see save us_222 right?....a lot of smart people on this forum amazing guys!! this makes me interested in WWE again...and RAW as the flagship show would only have the new video if there is one not ECW ever one does not see that show and smackdown would just run the same one as raw kinda like the RAW rebound type deal. So finally i think it will go 222...22j...y2j and interupt either cena of kennedy the way he did the rock!!!!!
mochalman
09-27-2007, 10:44 PM
joshua chapter 2 verse 2 line 2? yeah could work. i hope this is for jericho because if it isnt jericho, what would fans do? riot in the streets? cry themselves to sleep? lets just say...if it isnt jericho. TNA here we come!
tna23
09-27-2007, 10:56 PM
I have a strong feeling that it is about Jericho. But i think that it could be about the new second generation heart foundation. the 222 part could be about the heart foundation b/c there is going to be three members in the heart foundation and i heard that they're going to call the new heart foundation, the heart foundation 2.0.
soccrstud90
09-27-2007, 11:05 PM
did anyone else notice that on the saveus222.com, it says the walls cannot be broken?
mouthforcombat
09-27-2007, 11:05 PM
http://www.prowrestling.com/article/news/6398
On saveus222.com that is just some domain a guy from england bought and put up a teaser for Jericho, it is NOT WWE's or Jericho's site. It's B.S.
bwaller3
09-27-2007, 11:07 PM
No I don't find it odd at all because it has nothing to do with Jericho and he won't be at No Mercy. if he was they would tell you to get you to BUY the PPV.
If you start reading everything the WWE is doing into this one 5 second promo, you're going to be disappointed. Creative doesn't work that hard.
I don't expect Jericho back until the Survivor Series and he will probably debut on Raw the Monday prior or two Mondays prior to get you to buy it.
Vince wants your money and having Jericho appear in the blind doesn't get it.
in now way am i saying that the Save_Us.222 message is a confirmation of Y@J's return but I am saying that it appears to hint at a return...the Oct. 7 flashing throughout is a plug for No Mercy and that small flash of 7Oct will generate more buys for a pay per view....you comment on Y2J going to smackdown being like Hall or Nash being put on Thunder....that was a universal program...it would not be that out of place to see them on that show...your comments to others come across as you talking down to them stating that their opinions of what might happen are wrong...I have to say, after reading yours you dont really seem to have a clue....you bash creative but you fail to give them credit for coming up with an idea that has set the wrestling world on fire...this is one of the biggest deals in wrestleing in the last 3-5 years...give it a rest bro and sit back and just see what happens....:shooter:
bowlinbing
09-28-2007, 12:37 AM
wouldn't these new sites only prove that the WWE is letting the internet do the marketing for them? Is that not the point of a Viral campaign? To put up an unexplained video and then let the fan community speculate and obsess, to have them make websites and posit theories on what this is all about?
As I said before, if this is for D'lo Brown, I'm gonna be so pissed...
Freedom 35
09-28-2007, 12:52 AM
As I said before, if this is for D'lo Brown, I'm gonna be so pissed...
that wouldbe really bad wouldnt it, but I dont think they would waste something thats drawn this much attention on D'lo Brown. As of now it looks like Jericho and these videos will probably play on every show until NO Mercy because it said 7Oct on the video maybe not a return yet but something big will happen there.
bowlinbing
09-28-2007, 01:10 AM
Agreed, and if the E hasn't figured out ny now that fans are putting in an inordinate amount of time talking about this, well, they will soon. But they also need to consider that people are probbably going to crap on whoever it is if its not jericho. Which is fine if that's the kind of heat you want for the guy... if it wasn't the creative direction last week, it really ought to be today.
Dude Rocker
09-28-2007, 01:20 AM
Saveus222.info gives some REAL INTERESTING clues to this. I wonder if its real though, seems like it since its all cryptic and the whois gives up strange stuff (More clues).
Someone should decipher the shit there. Also, it says 20% loaded, so does it mean we get... 4 more promos until Y2J returns? 2/10 = 5 and one is done so 4 remaining I guess.
Saveus222.com makes it too obvious.
Shadowmancer
09-28-2007, 01:57 AM
This is the best example of Viral Marketing that I have seen so far, this is a good idea. The guy that thought this up is a marketing genius as it is a good idea for a returning superstar. This is similar to what Ring of Honor has done with Project 161 as well, a sub-cultural method of building hype. They shouldn't too often as it could be used too often and people will get sick of it.
fed_up_fan
09-28-2007, 03:04 AM
my screen name says it all, i am fed up with the crappy storylines that are pushed on us. i swear to god if this is to hype someother assclown i will block the entire usa network from my house! however if it is the return of Y2J, and they dont job him off, i will never say a bad word about creative again. but then again...
i cant say this for sure cause i aint exactly on the inside, but unless the WWE says otherwise, all these websites like this saveus222.com are all fakes. dont believe that crap. a Y2J return would definitely be the right move for the company, but dont let these guys get our hopes up and god forbid it really is d'lo. no disrespect to d'lo, but face it, the guy was never popular enough to warrant this type of a hyped up return.
Dude Rocker
09-28-2007, 03:42 AM
No seriously Fed_up_fan, thats what the WWE wants you to think, those websites are most definitely not fakes I mean who the hell would want to register a stupid domain name like that and even if it is for the traffic then they should have had ads there.
Thumz9814
09-28-2007, 03:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuiHyDwHMNk
still shot of the word jer_ico found in the promo
Dont be fooled, the video is doctored. That clip is taken around the five second mark in the real video. To make it look more realistic (as if it isnt taken from this point in the video), he changed "BAT_ASS" to "BAT_ASC", changed "JVC_MIX to JER_ICO", and "RAW_NEW8" to "SAVE_RAW" (and since SAVE_RAW doesnt fit in the same space that RAW_NEW8 does, he simply deleted all of the letters surrounding it). He also zoomed in on the pic.
I'm also thinking the websites may have just been made up by some random person, though I'm not jumping to conclusions on that topic just yet.
Well after doing a bit of research on saveus222.com i can tell you it is registered to
Registrant:
Christian Wattengard
Ingeborg Ofstads vei 51
Tiller, ST 7091
Norway
Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: SAVEUS222.COM
Created on: 25-Sep-07
Expires on: 25-Sep-08
Last Updated on: 26-Sep-07
Administrative Contact:
Wattengard, Christian cwattengard@gmail.com
Ingeborg Ofstads vei 51
Tiller, ST 7091
Norway
40874762
Technical Contact:
Wattengard, Christian cwattengard@gmail.com
Ingeborg Ofstads vei 51
Tiller, ST 7091
Norway
40874762
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIsVerify.aspx?domain=saveus222.com&prog_id=godaddy
as for the saveus222.info site, i can get no information on who owns the actual site however again it is registered to godaddy.com
if you find anymore sites like those and want to check them go to http://www.dnsstuff.com/
now back on topic
A jericho return would be great for wwe as they really need it right now, if orton loses (i hope not!) cena could say he has beaten everyone on raw and he is the best champion of all time etc, then enter jericho....
we will have to see how things turn out though, i just hope it is jerichos return and the creative team dont screw it up
razor7
09-28-2007, 10:02 AM
in now way am i saying that the Save_Us.222 message is a confirmation of Y@J's return but I am saying that it appears to hint at a return...the Oct. 7 flashing throughout is a plug for No Mercy and that small flash of 7Oct will generate more buys for a pay per view....you comment on Y2J going to smackdown being like Hall or Nash being put on Thunder....that was a universal program...it would not be that out of place to see them on that show...your comments to others come across as you talking down to them stating that their opinions of what might happen are wrong...I have to say, after reading yours you dont really seem to have a clue....you bash creative but you fail to give them credit for coming up with an idea that has set the wrestling world on fire...this is one of the biggest deals in wrestleing in the last 3-5 years...give it a rest bro and sit back and just see what happens....:shooter:
My point was the dove doesn't have anything to do with this. I fully believe Save_Us.222 is about Jericho. I don't HAVE to give creative any credit at all. Didn't the Mr. McMahon death angle set the wrestling world on fire? Weren'tpeople rushing to Google and Yahoo, some folks even thought he was really dead. It is great fans are excited, but at the same time they are reading too much into this, i.e. "The dove on the NoMercy photo, claiming bible verses are in the video." and in that haste they are putting out bad info.
It is also a fact, that the majority of the mysteries and whodunits in the WWE are disappointments.
Papa Shango
09-28-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah, but it wasn't Creative's fault for the death angle to be dropped like that. It would have been in bad taste to continue with it. The death angle would have been great because it would have led to the illegitimate child storyline. I believe it was this website that reported that the plot twist of the death angle was that Vince had left everything to his secret love child, Mr. Kennedy. However, that had to be scrapped due to the Benoit situation. So, Creative tried to introduce the storyline a different way, with a paternity suit. But THAT got messed up too, this time by Mr. Kennedy's suspension for steroids. All I'm saying, is that Creative has been trying very hard to come up with ideas to improve the quality of thier shows. And they would have done a great job of it, if it weren't for circumstances beyond thiers, or anyone's control. However, there is a chance the son storyline can be salvaged. Also, the New Hart Foundation is set to debut. Why wouldn't it be possible for Creative to come up with a satisfying revelation to this mystery. In conclusion, DON"T BE SUCH A DOWNER!! THIS MYSTERY IS FUN!! LET PEOPLE OVERSPECULATE!!
Dude Rocker
09-28-2007, 11:13 AM
Here is the Saveus222.info site owner's information:
Registrant Contact Information:
Name: HEL WAL
Organization: ALCRU
Address 1: MSCRE
Address 2: LSD
City: 222
State: CTRYWRONG
Country: RW
Phone: +250.0070007007
Email:
Same info in all other fields too. More cryptic stuff here. The only thing that makes sense to me is the HEL WAL.
According to Wikipedia:
"from the heavy metal album entitled Walls of Jericho by the German power metal band Helloween."
Does it mean HELloween: WALls of Jericho?
Strange shit
Luther_Hull FTW
09-28-2007, 11:44 AM
I have decided that this is not Jericho, it is in fact Big Show. I've come to this conclusion based on the saveus222.info website:
Loading ... /andre/kd/1/stry/andre_2.222
kd = kid IMO. When Big Show first enetered WCW he was known as The Giant and he was Andre's kayfabe son.
Loading ... /hulk/
The Giant's first match in WCW was against Hulk Hogan.
Loading ... /1/2/rus_champ.222
I believe Big Show has been the US Champ before in his time.
Loading ... /BIGBOSS/death/false/
He was in an angle with Big Bossman where Show's dad had died. But in reaity he was already dead, that's why it's false.
Loading ... /TEAM/SMACK_CHAMP_07/
Him and Kane beat Batista and Mysterio who at the time were the SmackDown tag champs.
Loading ... /WMY2K/?????/
Big Show was in the main event of WrestleMania 2000
Loading ... /HARDCORE/X/
He's been hardcore champ, and he was in ECW which is supposedly hardcore.
So there you go, enough reasons there to assume that BIG SHOW is returning this year!
razor7
09-28-2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah, but it wasn't Creative's fault for the death angle to be dropped like that. It would have been in bad taste to continue with it. The death angle would have been great because it would have led to the illegitimate child storyline. I believe it was this website that reported that the plot twist of the death angle was that Vince had left everything to his secret love child, Mr. Kennedy. However, that had to be scrapped due to the Benoit situation. So, Creative tried to introduce the storyline a different way, with a paternity suit. But THAT got messed up too, this time by Mr. Kennedy's suspension for steroids. All I'm saying, is that Creative has been trying very hard to come up with ideas to improve the quality of thier shows. And they would have done a great job of it, if it weren't for circumstances beyond thiers, or anyone's control. However, there is a chance the son storyline can be salvaged. Also, the New Hart Foundation is set to debut. Why wouldn't it be possible for Creative to come up with a satisfying revelation to this mystery. In conclusion, DON"T BE SUCH A DOWNER!! THIS MYSTERY IS FUN!! LET PEOPLE OVERSPECULATE!!
I am sure it's Chris Jericho. I don't hold out hopes for how he will be booked however and I do hope I am wrong. Have all the fun ya want. It is fun, but if you overspeculate and someone disagrees don't get bent out of shape is all I am saying.
As far as the son storyline, I don't see it being salvaged. It has been ruined, the WWE rightfully suspended Kennedy.
The only point I am making is we can't ignore the WWF/WWE track record on these kinds of angles, starting all the way back to the higher power, fake razor and diesel and come forward to Hornswoggle.
Sorry if I have been a downer, and yes I am excited about Jericho, but it's hard to continue thinking the best of creative when they have blown it so many time. There is no excuse for Katie Vick, Matt Hardy being jobbed to Edge despite all of the we want matt chants and the destruction of ECW.
I won't even mention the Invasion angle.
But you're right this is worth being excited about.
dirtyshubb
09-28-2007, 12:14 PM
Loading ... /BIGBOSS/death/false/
He was in an angle with Big Bossman where Show's dad had died. But in reaity he was already dead, that's why it's false.
Just to clear this up his dad wasnt dead as far as i remember, he had been suffering from cancer earlier that year i believe but didnt die, i think a lot of people found the angle in bad taste because of this, although i will always remember 2 things from this angle
1:"See paul your a dirty little bastard and your mum thinks so too!"
2:Show getting carried away on his dads casket, damn i was laughing for ages when i first saw that (especially when i read they had to film it like 2 times cause show was too heave and kept breaking the chain)
Anyway i doubt it is Show, just because from what i remember he doesnt want to wrestle full time anymore due to back and/or knee problems i think.
It most likely will be Y2J which is a good thing, WWE need a great mike speaker to get the crowds going again which most current guys just cant seem to do as well.
The best example of this is when you had the Rock promote the Lashley Umaga hair vs hair match, even in a pre taped vid he tore the house down, and then you had Stone Cold top that with his fantastic speach about being neutral as ref "Now i wont stomp him enough to kill him, but he is gonna be bleeding a bit, just so were on the same wave length" Best speach i have heard in a long time from WWE and really highlighted how good these guys were/are and that no one is yet able to equal this quality yet.
Mad Metal
09-28-2007, 12:40 PM
http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=193004388
We can now confirm that Chris Jericho has picked WWE over TNA for his return to the ring, and that Y2J is likely to return to WWE on 10/7 at the No Mercy PPV. Jericho was in talks with both WWE and TNA, but ultimately opted to mark his return with World Wrestling Entertainment.
The keyword was "confirm". This just sheds even more light on the subject that it is highly (maybe a step higher) likely it IS Chris Jericho. "I'M BACK" into 9 seconds of the video sure tells a lot and I don't know who else is slated for a return.
At the same time, it's hilarious how such a small/short video with many of the WWE's computer file names creates a huge buzz. That was definitely not expected.
Anyways, it's good to hear Chris Jericho will return home to where he belongs, in the WWE.
Papa Shango
09-28-2007, 12:44 PM
Well, it's been all but confirmed. It's just been reported that Y2J has in fact chosen WWE over TNA to make his return, which will likely be Oct. 7 at No Mercy. Now it is very rare for this site to report something as true when its not. If Ryan Clark says its confirmed, then I believe to be confirmed and true. Come October, we WILL see the return of RAW... IS... JERICHO!!!! Whoa, I just got chills from writing that. May have been the fan blowing on me, but I don't think so, I think it was Y2J.
Excelsior!!
vndwnbytheriver
09-28-2007, 12:57 PM
just thinking about this gives me chills. the way i would want to see it done. near the end of the last man standing match. the lights go out, the video plays. king and jr are like whats this!?!. lights come back up, both cena and orton are layed out, 0. then brake the walls down starts, and we see jericho. ref starts the 10 count, and orton gets up just before the 10. giving him the belt and the win. then you start jericho/cena
True! Jericho was "retired" by Cena. It'd be a natural fit when you think about it, and imagine the tag team main event- Chris Jericho and Randy orton vs HHH and John Cena.
All of a sudden, RAW is worth staying awake for!
The keyword was "confirm". This just sheds even more light on the subject that it is highly (maybe a step higher) likely it IS Chris Jericho. "I'M BACK" into 9 seconds of the video sure tells a lot and I don't know who else is slated for a return.
At the same time, it's hilarious how such a small/short video with many of the WWE's computer file names creates a huge buzz. That was definitely not expected.
Anyways, it's good to hear Chris Jericho will return home to where he belongs, in the WWE.
Agree on that Mad.
BUT... I will pee my pants if it's some stupid angle like the McBastard, lol! i can't imagine the faces of all the people if they see the countdown clock and all that stuff, just to see Big Dick Johnson dressed like Jericho, coming out of the ramp
kabbott50
09-28-2007, 01:36 PM
I can't wait to see Jericho come back, and hopefully it will be at No Mercy. WWE lacks major star power right now, and one would think, he will definately help out the ratings and PPV buys.
mochalman
09-28-2007, 01:57 PM
I can't wait to see Jericho come back, and hopefully it will be at No Mercy. WWE lacks major star power right now, and one would think, he will definately help out the ratings and PPV buys.
WWE doesnt really lack star power. this week most people will be back from the 30 day suspension and itll be back to normal. if you still think it lacks star power, well, unite everyone to one brand because all your stars are spread apart
erik316
09-28-2007, 02:00 PM
With all this hype, If something retarded does go down at No Mercy. I am talking anything but Jericho, the All State arena WILL riot. This place is the rowdiest venue I have ever been to. Look at WM 22 they cheered a heel HHH and then Turned on Trish and started cheering for Mickey for no damn reason what so ever. Us Chicagoans are a different breed of wrestling fans, with the exception of say Philly. So help the WWE that Jericho will be there.
Borges
09-28-2007, 05:23 PM
With all this hype, If something retarded does go down at No Mercy. I am talking anything but Jericho, the All State arena WILL riot. This place is the rowdiest venue I have ever been to. Look at WM 22 they cheered a heel HHH and then Turned on Trish and started cheering for Mickey for no damn reason what so ever. Us Chicagoans are a different breed of wrestling fans, with the exception of say Philly. So help the WWE that Jericho will be there.
I'm gonna have to disagree with you, only because you fail to mention us Torontoians.... Just ask Jerry "The King", it's Bizzaro world in T.O...... I think Toronto was the first city to start booing the face wrestlers... Next time RAW is in Toronto, tune in and listen carefully. We don't like 'marks' very much.
Anyway...
As for my opinions on the Save_US.222, it WILL be Chris Jericho. The 222 part is the only part that is confusing me. Having the 222 to 22J and then Y2J is way too obvious. Could one of the 2's mean that he was the only person to hold BOTH world championships at the same time? I think everything else points to Y2J, I'm just confused on the .222 aspect of the Save_US.
The best way to have Jericho return would be as a heel. Jericho was probably the best heel of all time. Regardless, fans will cheer him because like myself, they respect talent. Having Cena beat Orton at No Mercy and have the lights fade only to have that promo playing would be incredible. The lights come back on, and you see Jericho standing, arms stretched out with microphone in hand, only to see him turn and face Cena....... That just gives me chills thinking about it.
Also.. WWE doesn't lack star power what so ever, if anything, it has the great ability to create stars out of no where (Stone Cold Steve Austin, anyone?) However, if Vince is getting too concerned/worried about the ratings, his best solution would be a major angle that combines all the brands. Think about the fresh/different feuds we'd have. You could make it a 3 hour Raw every week and it wouldn't grow stale....
Borges
09-28-2007, 06:25 PM
I forgot to mention... Check out this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IJ7hojiqMY
I don't know if I believe every word of this guy's opinions, but the part that stands out for me, is the countdown.
This was the first time that I saw the countdown slowed down..... That almost 100% proves that this is Jericho (to me at least).
bowds987
09-28-2007, 07:34 PM
This is definately for Jericho - all we need to wait for now is when it will be. I think something will happen on 7th oct - not sure if he will make an appearance, it does seem that would be rushing it a bit, but then i couldn't see it happening at a pointless PPV like Cyber Sunday either - so either it will be No Mercy or we will have to wait til Survivor Series.
If it is No Mercy, he will help Orton win the title - i can see it being the start of a Cena heel turn, coming out on Raw the next night whining aout being booed and disrespected by the fans, a la Bret Hart many years ago. There is no way Jericho could return as a heel - he would have too many cheers.
Then again, i could be wrong - i DID think that Mr Cena Jnr was going to turn on John Cena at Judgement Day for faling to protect him from Orton!!!
erik316
09-29-2007, 03:14 AM
I could very well see Jericho causing Cena to lose the title. I just hope Dave Meltzer is right in conferming Jericho's signing and being at No Mercy
mikeb619
09-29-2007, 10:00 AM
there is at 12 second mark y2j if u slow it down its there in blue
Y 2 Jake
09-29-2007, 11:30 AM
The promo aired on Smackdown. So hopefully he isn't going to Raw. He's not needed over there. They have the stars, the workers and the promo men. Smackdown has all the shit workers and men who cant talk. Really who is there? Edge, that's it.
cooldude0782
09-29-2007, 12:46 PM
there is at 12 second mark y2j if u slow it down its there in blue
do you have a link to the slowed down video,cuz if i watch it in slomo then i dont know where the 12 second mark in the normal speed video is in slomo
cooldude0782
09-29-2007, 12:49 PM
go to the bottom of wwe.com and in the bottom left corner is a link to the saveus 222 promo
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