View Full Version : Who is the best female WRESTLER curently in WWE
Echelon
09-18-2007, 02:54 AM
To humor both myself and jBack, here is a poll of the Best female Wrestler currently appearing on WWE TV. Notice the emphasis on the word wrestler.
The List
Beth Phoenix
Victoria
Jillian Hall
Mickie James
Melina
Candice Michelle
Michelle McCool
Ashley
Who does the community here at WZ think is the best female wrestler in WWE
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 05:40 AM
When it comes to WWE women, it's not the wrestling. It's how much jiggling goes on. Therefore Ashley is the best.
tim2233
09-18-2007, 06:14 AM
In WWE, The best female "wrestler" in my opinion would be Victoria. She should still be over on Raw holding the women's title.
I don't really have much to say on this topic to be honest.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 11:41 AM
Really? Mickie James? Mickie is an average in ring wrestler at best, its Beth Phoenix right now by far, Come On people, I thought you were smart enough to pick out the difference between mat wrestling skills and the ability to entertain. Thats why I put the emphasis on WRESTLING skills, not the ability to entertain.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 11:49 AM
I dont care about womens wrestling in WWE. Best WRESTLER is irrelevant. You might get the occasional good match, but it's looks that will get you booked properly. What will happen to Phoenix after her initial title run? Nothing. They will give the belt to somebody prettier. And I imagine she'll go to Smackdown to help Diva search contestants.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 11:55 AM
but that doesn't change the fact that she is a great wrestler, same with Shelton Benjamin, he's being poorly used right now, but it doesn't change the fact that alot of people still recognize his talents, why should it be any different for Beth or even Victoria, who is a great mat wrestler as well. Just because Beth isn't as pretty as Candice does that mean that people should just ignore her talents?
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:02 PM
Yeah but as a male wrestler Shelton will eventually recieve a push. There's nothing left for a woman to achieve in WWE once they've won the Womens Championship. Also women only have a limited shelf life in wrestling. There's always new models coming in.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:16 PM
True, but If a woman has a remarkable talent, like say Molly or Jazz, those two had great in ring skills, and even though it could be argued that they were both one hit wonders inside the womens division, its their names that jump to the top of the list when the topic of greatest womens WRESTLER comes up. Even if in WWE a woman doesn't have the most title reigns to say she's the best, IMO, having the support form the fans saying your the best is more than what any title could do for you.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:18 PM
True. But are they great because of WWE? That company didn't do much for there careers. Certainly not Jazz's.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:22 PM
WWE gave them the exposer, If Molly had stayed in WCW and not moved to WWE would she have been as big? Jazz, even though brought in only to better Trish's career, the exposer she recieved from WWE, IMO, opened many of the fans eyes to not only of how good of a wrestler Jazz was but it help elevate Trish to new heights. If Jazz had stayed o the indy circuit, the fans probably would be unaware of Jazz's abilities.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:26 PM
WWE gave them the exposer, If Molly had stayed in WCW and not moved to WWE would she have been as big?
I dont think that's a relevant question. Because I think she would have been bought in during the Invasion. And she possibly wouldn't have been lumbered with the Holly gimmick.
Jazz, even though brought in only to better Trish's career, the exposer she recieved from WWE, IMO, opened many of the fans eyes to not only of how good of a wrestler Jazz was but it help elevate Trish to new heights.
It elevated Trish, but she would have got there because of her looks anyway. And it doesn't prove anything. Ask most fans who the best Womens champ of all time is. It will be Trish. While Jazz probably would be near the tail end of a top 10.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:35 PM
I dont think that's a relevant question. Because I think she would have been bought in during the Invasion. And she possibly wouldn't have been lumbered with the Holly gimmick.
True
It elevated Trish, but she would have got there because of her looks anyway. And it doesn't prove anything. Ask most fans who the best Womens champ of all time is. It will be Trish. While Jazz probably would be near the tail end of a top 10.
Ask those fans again but be sure to emphasis the wrestling aspect, most people, when they think of the greatest womens wrestler of all time, will lump mat skills and entertainment skills together, and sometimes they'll just add the entertainment aspect, because, after all, in WWE the entertainment aspect IS more important than the wrestling aspect. Switch the question, and more than likely, Trish will be near the bottom, and Lita, Molly, Jazz etc will be at the top.
TheOneBigWill
09-18-2007, 12:36 PM
Ask most fans who the best Womens champ of all time is. It will be Trish. While Jazz probably would be near the tail end of a top 10.
I think thats only because most fans will vote Trish as the best, due to two reasons. 1. She was "hotter" than a lot of the others, & definately better looking than Jazz. And 2. She was by far, the most popular.
Jazz, in my opinion, was better wrestling wise then Trish Stratus, so Jazz should be accounted for as the better performer. But I suppose as far as W.W.E. Women's Champion goes, Trish could also be looked at as the better of the two, since she held the Championship more, not to mention for a solid year. (funny how people complain about Cena at times for that year reign, but the Trish year reign - which half she was injured & couldn't defend the title - goes unnoticed?)
Anyways, staying ON topic.. I voted for Victoria.. & the votes seem nicely evened to Mickie James, then Victoria. I'd agree with that, although Victoria has been there longer so she should get the top end of the votes. I think Mickie is getting the better portion, due to being more on top lately than Victoria has been.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:37 PM
Yeah but why is Mickie James on par with Victoria? Popularity and looks, certainly not wrestling skills.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:39 PM
thats what I just said, the Trish factor is coming into play again, notice how I didn't vote for Jillian either.
TheOneBigWill
09-18-2007, 12:40 PM
Wait, you don't think Mickie James has wrestling skill? Or you don't think Victoria has looks? I'm confused
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:41 PM
Because you think Phoenix is better.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:42 PM
Wait, you don't think Mickie James has wrestling skill? Or you don't think Victoria has looks? I'm confused
I think Mickie is ok at best. And Victoria isn't one of WWE's main girls. She'll never grace the cover of a Diva DVD or mag. Although personally i prefer her to the Barbie dolls.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:42 PM
Beth Phoenix is by far the best female wrestler in WWE right now, she is Kurt Angle while Mickie James is Triple H
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:44 PM
Mickie James is Triple H
Overrated?
TheOneBigWill
09-18-2007, 12:46 PM
I think Mickie is ok at best. And Victoria isn't one of WWE's main girls. She'll never grace the cover of a Diva DVD or mag. Although personally i prefer her to the Barbie dolls.
The thing for me, that sold Mickie was her ass in those skirts. Thats purely a male reply though. Honestly, to me, she has skill.. more so then some other current divas that're being pushed. (Jillian) Thats not to say Jillian won't be huge later.
And Victoria won't grace any cover, or be the main girl because she isn't a barbie doll. Victoria has gotten a little bit bigger in the thighs, & thats how most average, beautiful women look. W.W.E. doesn't sell "average & normal" though, so thats that. I love Victoria for everything she's ever been. (outside of the ho gimmick w/ Godfather) And I wish they'd return her to being a dominate heel. Also, for what its worth.. regarding divas in playboy.. I'd like to see Victoria, but I was also strangely enough wanting Molly Holly in playboy at one time before they made her out to be "fat & ugly," which she isn't to most degrees. (although she isn't tooth-pick skinny persay, either)
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:49 PM
Overrated?
To an extent, I thought she was overrated on the indy circuit, but in WWE, where 90% of the women can't wrestle worth a shit, I think her status goes from Triple H (overrated) to Kennedy (promising, but IMO restricting at times, due to lack of talent)
Slim Pickns
09-18-2007, 12:49 PM
Great discussion guys, good points made by both.
However, after hearing all of that, I still have to vote for Jillian. I have watched some of her matches online and have been very impressed. If she drops the singing gimmick, she not Beth, couldbe the next women's champ. I think she has well rounded skills and is still hot as hell. Melina and Beth are close second and third. Its been hard to tell lately if they are any good since they are always wrestling Candice.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:49 PM
The thing for me, that sold Mickie was her ass in those skirts. Thats purely a male reply though. Honestly, to me, she has skill.. more so then some other current divas that're being pushed. (Jillian) Thats not to say Jillian won't be huge later.
And Victoria won't grace any cover, or be the main girl because she isn't a barbie doll. Victoria has gotten a little bit bigger in the thighs, & thats how most average, beautiful women look. W.W.E. doesn't sell "average & normal" though, so thats that. I love Victoria for everything she's ever been. (outside of the ho gimmick w/ Godfather) And I wish they'd return her to being a dominate heel. Also, for what its worth.. regarding divas in playboy.. I'd like to see Victoria, but I was also strangely enough wanting Molly Holly in playboy at one time before they made her out to be "fat & ugly," which she isn't to most degrees. (although she isn't tooth-pick skinny persay, either)
When it comes to the WWE Women's division. The ones that are pushed heavily and consistently are the ones that Vince wants to fuck. Simple.
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 12:51 PM
To an extent, I thought she was overrated on the indy circuit, but in WWE, where 90% of the women can't wrestle worth a shit, I think her status goes from Triple H (overrated) to Kennedy (promising, but IMO restricting at times, due to lack of talent)
Agree. Can be good given the right opponent, but the wrong opponet just expose all there flaws.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:55 PM
Like if Mickie James wrestled for Shimmer, odds are that she'd be in the mid card, not because she totally sucks, but because she's not quite on the level of those girls, Jillian too. Beth on the other hand, I could see her in the main event in Shimmer (Oh, wait, she WAS main eventing Shimmer before she came to WWE)
Slim Pickns
09-18-2007, 12:57 PM
When it comes to the WWE Women's division. The ones that are pushed heavily and consistently are the ones that Vince wants to fuck. Simple.
It is true that the hotter divas are generally pushed more. Thats why Jillian will be champ soon. She has great skill (which wrestling fans love) plus she's a thick white girl with big breast and a nice ass (which everyone loves); totally marketable champion.
Echelon
09-18-2007, 12:58 PM
^ April Hunter? Maybe a little too big, maybe not
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 01:00 PM
It is true that the hotter divas are generally pushed more. Thats why Jillian will be champ soon. She has great skill (which wrestling fans love) plus she's a thick white girl with big breast and a nice ass (which everyone loves); totally marketable champion.
If Vince shares TV time with them, and alludes to the fact he's had sex with them (Melina) or makes them bark like a dog (Trish), or get's them in there underwear, then you know he wants to fuck them. The fact that Jillian's debut gimmick was that of a South Park character shows that he isn't that intrested with her.
TheOneBigWill
09-18-2007, 01:01 PM
Does anyone else get sick when looking at Candice in her new skin-tight (on the legs, at least) outfits? For the past two nights, on the Unforgiven p.p.v. & on Raw.. she just needs to get away from those tights, it makes her look like a stick.. she's got no ass in those tights, & very skinny legs.. thats not attractive, its disturbing & sickening.
Anyone else agree?
Y 2 Jake
09-18-2007, 01:03 PM
Does anyone else get sick when looking at Candice in her new skin-tight (on the legs, at least) outfits? For the past two nights, on the Unforgiven p.p.v. & on Raw.. she just needs to get away from those tights, it makes her look like a stick.. she's got no ass in those tights, & very skinny legs.. thats not attractive, its disturbing & sickening.
Anyone else agree?
I haven't noticed. I'm too busy looking at her and thinking ''What the fuck is up with your face, why cant you move it'' I know the answer. I just want to hear her say it.
Slim Pickns
09-18-2007, 01:15 PM
If Vince shares TV time with them, and alludes to the fact he's had sex with them (Melina) or makes them bark like a dog (Trish), or get's them in there underwear, then you know he wants to fuck them. The fact that Jillian's debut gimmick was that of a South Park character shows that he isn't that intrested with her.
You're right Vince does not seem interested in her at all. Jillian has been nowhere near Vince, but I don't recall Candice has either yet she is being pushed big time. I have a hard time believing Vince is not interested in fucking either one of these two.
will5825
09-18-2007, 01:23 PM
Beth Phoenix is the best along with Melina,Victoria and Mickie James. Women who know what they're doing in the ring.Candice isn't a wrestler in my mind and shouldn't be champion. One thing I hate is watching a sloppy match and that's what u get with the other "Divas". I know u need eyecandy these days but the WWE is just going overboard now. 1 of the best women's matches i've seen was the ladder match with Beth in OVW.
jback
09-18-2007, 03:54 PM
Candice Michelle-The worst "wrestler" in the wwe right now.
Ashley-Improving hugely and loads and loads of star power charisma.
Mickie James-Hot but way Over......Rated!!!
Beth Phoenix-Jazz with half the talent
Victoria-OK @ best
Jillian Hall-Weak skills, no charisma and just scarry 2 look @
Melina-ok...but most dominant diva(NO Way) She is a good "bitch" heel but her skills in ring are on par with Maria & Candice!!!
Michelle McCool-The Next Trish Stratus. Hot, Talented, charisma she is the TOTAL PACKAGE!!!!!!!
Echelon
09-18-2007, 05:42 PM
um, the point of this thread was to name the best womens wrestler, not the best eye candy
tj mack
09-18-2007, 06:27 PM
I voted for Ashley. Too me she is improving really well. It was either her or Candice Michelle(who I love). I feel like both Ashley and Candice will both be multiple time champion.
Shadowmancer
09-18-2007, 06:33 PM
Mickie James is Triple H
What? Screwing the Bosses Daughter?
Beth Pheonix or Victoria I can't choose. Ech who is the chick in your sig with Ms Chif?
jback
09-18-2007, 06:33 PM
I couldn't agree with u more about Ashly!!!!!!!!I love her!!!!!!!I feel like she is the future of the wwe!! But Candice come on!!! It's an insult 2 ashley 2 put her in the same sentence wit Candice!!! Ashley & McCool alll the way!!!!! CANDICE can't cut it!!!!!! Funny Ashley is tied with both Melina & Hall!!! Told ya people think ashley is good!!!cuz she is!!!!
Shadowmancer
09-18-2007, 06:36 PM
Did you watch that snorefest at Mania? it is Diva's like Ashley that make the Women's division so shitty and unable to be taken seriously.
tj mack
09-18-2007, 06:39 PM
Now I wish that I would have voted for Candice. I really like and think that her and ashley are really gifted. I personally feel Candice is a little stronger in ring but voted for ashley b/c she has it all.
molly holly=hero
09-18-2007, 07:02 PM
I honestly do not think any of them have the ability that Nora(Molly Holly) had. As a struggling training female wrestler Molly is an inspiration. Since she is not still there I voted 4 ashley. She deserves some credit 4 wanting to train to become a wrestler. She could have just been eye candy. Same goes 4 Candice & Michelle, I applaud all of them. Beth, Mickie, Melina, Victoria, & Jillian are all amazing athletes. ANY WOMAN TO STEP INTO A WWE RING OR TRAIN ARE AMAZING I WISH I COULD VOTE 4 THEM ALL......
mimi_vicks
09-18-2007, 07:39 PM
YO YO YO! assley.....i mean ashley...alll the way.....
Echelon
09-19-2007, 02:54 AM
I honestly do not think any of them have the ability that Nora(Molly Holly) had. As a struggling training female wrestler Molly is an inspiration. Since she is not still there I voted 4 ashley. She deserves some credit 4 wanting to train to become a wrestler. She could have just been eye candy. Same goes 4 Candice & Michelle, I applaud all of them. Beth, Mickie, Melina, Victoria, & Jillian are all amazing athletes. ANY WOMAN TO STEP INTO A WWE RING OR TRAIN ARE AMAZING I WISH I COULD VOTE 4 THEM ALL......
you voted for fucking Ashley? Are you really a Molly fan?
Beth > Molly
And if you still feel like arguing
Mariko Yoshida > Molly
joyner78
09-19-2007, 09:03 AM
The WWE wouldn't know good wrestling if it punch Vinny Mac in the face. You got Victoria wasting away on Smackdown, Mickie James isn't getting the push she deserves and just because Beth Pheonix doesn't look like Candice she's not gonna get desent title run. The WWE fire Molly and Jazz, Lita and Trish "retired". Between Victoria, Mickie, Beth and maybe Melina, that's ALL the WWE has. BRING PAUL E. BACK!!!!!!!:dark2:
jback
09-19-2007, 03:37 PM
sorry for wat i did!! Im just a stupid 15 year old who thinks Ashley is hot. I no she has as much talent in the ring that my 80 yr old grandma does!! Candice Michelle, Victoria, Melina, Torrie, Michelle, Beth, are all better than Ashley!!!!!
Sorry!!!! To everyone I OFFFENDED!!!
Eternal Dragon
09-19-2007, 05:12 PM
sorry for wat i did!! Im just a stupid 15 year old who thinks Ashley is hot. I no she has as much talent in the ring that my 80 yr old grandma does!! Candice Michelle, Victoria, Melina, Torrie, Michelle, Beth, are all better than Ashley!!!!!
Sorry!!!! To everyone I OFFFENDED!!!
It's cool that you think Ashley is hot. That's fine, good for you!!! But trying to claim that she's anywhere near a good wrestler is not! I love Brooke Adams and Maria, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go around claiming that they're great wrestlers.
As for the poll, I voted for Melina. I know most people were going to vote for either Mickie or Victoria, so I wanted to vote something different, even though both Mickie and Victoria are top-notch wrestlers. I think Melina has so much athletic ability and passion (listen to her talk about wrestling), and it's such a shame that she doesn't get the chance to show all of her wrestling skills.
Flames Out
Dragon
Echelon
09-19-2007, 06:00 PM
^ You Honestly think that Melina has the cut and dry best WRESTLING skills of any of the divas dragon? Damn, I thought I knew you better.
I would Expect it to be a tight race between Victoria and Beth, why so many people are confusing actual wrestling talent with charisma and all that is beyond me
PocketJokers
09-19-2007, 06:40 PM
I have to give this one to Beth, she seriously suprised me when I saw her wrestle recently. A shitload of talent, and one of those Diva's that can wrestle, a rare commody these days, especially with the extreme expose.
Voted for Melina, seen her old videos from before WWE and its way better then what they let her show in WWE :(
RatedR_HBK11
09-19-2007, 10:06 PM
I voted for Victoria, although Beth and Mickie are right up there. Victoria is by far the most technically sound women's wrestler in WWE right now, and I'm sure she'd have a ton more if he wasn't being held down.
Beth is about to get caught in the "not skinny enough" category and Mickie had her push and now they're just taking it all away. Vince really needs a big clue as to how to handle his true talent.
Eternal Dragon
09-20-2007, 03:42 PM
^ You Honestly think that Melina has the cut and dry best WRESTLING skills of any of the divas dragon? Damn, I thought I knew you better.
I would Expect it to be a tight race between Victoria and Beth, why so many people are confusing actual wrestling talent with charisma and all that is beyond me
Okay fine, you're right it's probably Jillian Hall, Beth Phoenix, or Victoria. I can't decide between the three of them. But hey I'm human (and sort of hypocritical), and I saw Melina's name there and I clicked becuase it's all prettyfull... okay it's because she's one of my favorite divas. I know- it's shameful!
On the other hand "actual" wrestling talent has a lot to do with charisma.
Flames Out
Dragon
Echelon
09-20-2007, 04:24 PM
On the other hand "actual" wrestling talent has a lot to do with charisma.
Flames Out
Dragon
Mariko Yoshida, arguably the best female wrestler to ever live, her charisma levels, from what I've seen, not very high, she got over on pure wrestling skill alone.
WWE, totally different beast, if can be argued that showmanship and charsima are a put of the wrestling aspect, but is is possible to separate the two. If you do that, IMo the two best wrestlers in WWE would either be Beth or Victoria
psykohurricane
09-21-2007, 11:10 AM
Who is the best wrestler in the wwe? great question and here'S how i would rank the divas mention in your poll and reason why.
8. Ashley: pretty much everybody knows why she is the worst wrestler on the list and in the WWE.
7. Michelle McCool: Not a bad wrestler but sometimes i feel like she not able to sell in the ring. Some of her move look weak.
6. Mickie James: This is only a personal choice for me but for somebody that supposed to be an experience wrestler, she sure miss a lot of spots in the ring she started in the WWE and as far has charisma is concern, she doesn'T have alot.
5. Candice Michelle: I decided to put her in from of Mickie James simply because for a rookie, she hasn't made that many mistakes and does that she did made weren'T that career threatening. She improved alot over the past couple of month and in a year or 2 she might become one of the best woman's wrestler in the wwe. Her fan base is growing everytime she come to the ring and with a little practice, she could be good with promos.
4. Melina: Melina is pretty much in the same boat has Mickie james simply because if she's a experience wrestler has some people told me, i didn't see it since she started in the WWE. When she started, she made a lot of mistakes in the ring and her feud with Mickie james was one of the worst program for the woman's championship with the exception of her program with ashley. Speaking of that, if she was that experience, she should have been able to carried ashley to a good match. But what save her from being behind candice in the ranking is that she's got charisma and she's pretty much the most over Diva in the wwe right now.
3. Victoria: Don't get me wrong, Victoria is a great wrestler but the thing is, she'S not over with the crowd. Also she got a tendancy to injured people during her match because she hit them a little to hard sometimes. I'm still a big fan of hers but she cannot have a good career in the WWE on wrestling alone.
2. Jillian: If you would have ask this question last year, i would have put Jillian much lower on the ranking that she is right now. Her Singing gimmick is so much fum right now that even if she lose, your still entertained and because of that, you get to she how good she really is. Also she hasn'T had any difficulties in addapting to the WWE style of wrestling and to me that a plus.
1. Beth Phoenix: Since the first time i saw her last year i knew she would be a dominante force in the woman'S division and i felt bad that her first run got cut short because of Victoria. But now she'S back and from what have seen, she's could pretty much kill any of the other divas in the ring. She got the physical presence and the ring technique to be Woman'S champion some day. The only flaw that she has is that she not great at promos but besides that, she pretty much perfect.
jback
09-21-2007, 11:38 AM
8. Ashley-Love her but has little to none real wrestling ability. I do belive her charisma is what will help her, but she definetly need work.
7. Candice Michelle-I reakky dont like Candice. I believe she is really over-rated!! She should'nt have been given the belt just b/c she improved a bit.
6. Michelle McCool-McCool is another diva that i love. She is really hot, charsimatic and her wrestling abilty is improving. She still needs some work but she does have talent and will grow.
5. Jillian Hall-Tough one. She is really talented, great in ring ability, good charisma but I think her gimmic is annoying and she needs to get a face turn.
4. Victoria-Probably one of the best ever. She has amazing in-ring ability, but to me has been going down hill. I belive she has hit her peak and will just be used to get others over.
3. Beth "THE GLAMAZON" Pheonix-Man is she talented or what. She has been in the wwe for like 4 months(not including her first run) and is one of the best right now. She reminds me of a early Jazz or Victoria. She is so gifted and talented.
2. Mickie James-She is one of the best ever. You can argue that she is not the most gifted in-ring performer, but she is one of the top. Also she has more charisma and is more face over than any other diva. She is freaking AMAZING.
1. Melina-This diva is a BITCH!!! and I love her. She is really gifted in-ring, some of her moves I have never saw before.
Echelon
09-21-2007, 11:46 AM
you guys do know that this is based on wrestling skill alone, not their overness with the crowd.
phily693
09-21-2007, 12:15 PM
i think mickie is very athletic and hs improved snce hr debut!!!bt beth came in strng nd powerful which is very different frm athletic!!!victoria nd jillian r poorly used bt dey r bein jobbed 2 candice nd michelle!although bth michelle nd candice hve improved it doesnt luk like its flowin lke beth r mickie!!!nd y is maria nt in dat pool sh wrestls way mre than ashley even though it is 2 job bt i wud say she is betta dan ashley coz marias bulldogs r way better dan wat da hlf f ashley cn do!!!!nd i think ever since melina lost her title sh hs improved brilliantli especialli snce hr debut!!!!bt stll mi favs is mickie!!!
Skrilla
09-22-2007, 08:55 PM
Mickie James
Beth Phoenix
Victoria
I will go with wrestling skills alone on the rating itself, but when I describe these divas its anything goes
8.) Michelle McCool - I havent seen anything great from her ever in a WWE ring, sure she had a few spots against Melina in that diva battle royal a few months back but thats it. Not only that, but her gimmicks suck(not her fault), she isnt over with the crowd and she has bad charisma, I dont see why WWE would push her
7.) Ashley - She just isnt that great in the ring. I think her mic skills arent too shabby but I havent seen anything in the ring to impress me
6.) Jillian Hall - Let me just say she has GREAT charisma IMO and not to sound sexist but get kinda bored with the diva sexments(besides the viewpoint factors) but I think the womens division is in the best shape it has been in years, though it could be ALOT better. Jillian is impriving every week and can see her going somewhere eventually, though not anytime soon.
5.)Candice Michelle - Though she is getting better every week and has improved ridiculously well from being a rookie, she still has alot to learn. Candice is good on the mic because she knows how to sound sexy as hell flat out. I dont know about her seriousness though but she is defintally on the right track.
4.)Melina - Best charisma out of any diva in the wwe so far IMO, she has good in-ring skills too and can only get better. I dont like how they are down playing her now, she should atleast manage someone good on RAW.
3.)Mickie James - I think she has the looks and the in-ring skill. She is defintally better as a heel and I believe she cant get over as a face, similar to Randy Orton. Nothing really left to say here.
2.)Victoria - I think Victoria is great on both the mic and in the ring so she should be up here. Only problem with her getting #2 and not #1 on my list is I dont like the fact that she stiffs so much. She needs to learn to calm down a little bit.
1.)Beth Phoenix - Im giving it to her even though she is a rookie. Her mic skills may need improved, but I love her in-ring work. I think she is a cute girl so I dont know what everyone is talking about saying she wont get over long because of her looks.
No one included Maria I dont think, but why should they, she sucks :)
kyubi_creator
09-22-2007, 09:38 PM
Mickie james is the best right now but in the future i see beth phoenix the womens champion
phily693
09-25-2007, 05:00 PM
how is jillian below candice????jillian is a trained athlete hu can kick some ass unlike ashley!!!!mickie james is da most over diva at da moment hve u nt heard her pops wen hr music hits nd melina is very over heel wise!!!watch da battle royal at summersalm and watch wen dey cme owt altogether mickie nd torrie gt da best face reactions (cheers) nd melina nd jillian get da best heel reactions (boos)!!!den l8r on in da match wen jillian gets eliminated everyone cheers coz she is owt den wen mickie is eliminated by melina, every1 boos melina nd everyone is pissd dat mickie is owt den wen melina is eliminated sh gets well cheered cuz shes owt!watch it and u will c wat i mean!!!!
PS. Vote Brooke or Lena 2 Win da Diva Search!!!!!
MR.SCOTT
09-25-2007, 06:12 PM
victoria is the best womans wrestler in the wwe period, the other women on the list have one thing in common, time to train and develop. victoria can carry anyone including torrie wilson.
Echelon
09-25-2007, 07:10 PM
Victoria the best period? I'd like to see Victoria handle a 30 minute mat wrestling match or out wrestle men that have 50 or 60 pounds on her. Both Beth Phoenix and Nattie Neidhart have done this, but since Nattie isn't on the active roster yet, I'm going to give the nod to Beth for the best wrestling skills of any of the divas.
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