Push Him Or Cut Him?

[Nj Fan 04]

This thread is fairly simple. I will pick a person, and the next guy says he should be cut or pushed, and why. MAKE SURE YOU ELABORATE! Say why he should be cut or pushed, and if you said pushed, tell us how! Once you talk about the current topic, post the next guy we should talk about.

Let's start with... Shelton Benjamin

[justinsayne]

Shelton Benjamin- Push him, for the love of god push him!!!, he is one of the best pure athletes in the company, and is extremely fun to watch, when not getting squashed his matches are great, I would love to see him and Jeff Hardy feud over the IC title for the next couple of months, with the feud ending with a Ladder match, and Shelton winning of couse;)

the next guy is...Finley

[Lil Wes]

Finlay- I say yes for a run at the US title if Matt Hardy is to win it at Unforgiven, He isn't a bad wrestler and has had his share of decent matches, His mic work is whack but big deal if it's in the Mid-Card. The Mid-Card on SD! is weak anyways and Finlay is one of the more watchable, Chris Masters was likely going to be in that spot since he is out now I say give it to Finlay.

Next is Carlito..Should he get a push to main event status?

[theflash219]

Carlito: Cut him. He's talented, but not so much that he stands out. I really question his passion for this business. I think he needs to go elsewhere and maybe come back when he finds what he needs.

Super Crazy

[watchingandwaiting]

Cut him. Not that Crazy can't be entertaining, but he's been jobbed out so much that it's hard to take him seriously as any kind of contender. I'd much rather see someone like Cody Rhodes get an IC push rather than someone like Super Crazy.

Chuck Palumbo

[Doshan]

Push him. I really see Chuck Palumbo as a potential title winner this time around. His in ring work has really impressed me lately. I agree that the gimmick has been done before with taker, but I think he can make this one his own.

Tommy Dreamer

[theflash219]

Chuck Palumbo: Cut him, cut him, cut him. The black hole of charisma is so bad that he makes Mark Henry look like The Rock. I can't believe he still has a job.

Santino Marella

[alpald1]

Chuck Palumbo-Push Him- I think that as a wrestler his in ring skills have gotten better and smackdown is a great place for him to be. I'd say have him keep going with a feud against Chris masters and then have him do a feud against someone like Finlay.
The next person to push or cut is... Kenny Dykstra

[PlatynumX420]

Tommy Dreamer- push him towards an wwECW title run or at least a good feud if Burke wins the title tonight. Dreamer had a very good chant going this week on ECW on Sci-Fi and the crowd gets behind him. Let him get a glory run before he decides to go back to being fulltime behind the scenes.

next person Big Daddy V

[justinsayne]

Tommy Dreamer- This is a tough one for me, cause I love Dreamer, buy I think his best days are behind him so I'm going to have to say Cut him, I think he could be put to better use outside of the ring rather than in it

Jimmy Wang Yang

[Agrex]

Time to clean this thread up a bit.

Chuck Palumbo: Cut him, cut him, cut him. The black hole of charisma is so bad that he makes Mark Henry look like The Rock. I can't believe he still has a job.
Santino Marella

Santino Marella: CUT HIM!!! His gimmick is painful and his in-ring work isn't much better. And this whole storyline with Maria is getting really annoying. Ship him back to OVW where at least he had a decent gimmick.


Chuck Palumbo-Push Him- I think that as a wrestler his in ring skills have gotten better and smackdown is a great place for him to be. I'd say have him keep going with a feud against Chris masters and then have him do a feud against someone like Finlay.

The next person to push or cut is... Kenny Dykstra

Kenny Dykstra: PUSH HIM!!! With the decent amount of training this good actually be a pretty good wrestler. But WWE sticks him in a dead-end feud with Chuck Palumbo.


Tommy Dreamer- push him towards an wwECW title run or at least a good feud if Burke wins the title tonight. Dreamer had a very good chant going this week on ECW on Sci-Fi and the crowd gets behind him. Let him get a glory run before he decides to go back to being fulltime behind the scenes.

next person Big Daddy V

Big Daddy V: CUT HIM!!! This guy cannot wrestle, is extremely painful to look at, has bad mic skills, and can't last longer than 5 minutes in a match. FIRE HIM!


Tommy Dreamer- This is a tough one for me, cause I love Dreamer, buy I think his best days are behind him so I'm going to have to say Cut him, I think he could be put to better use outside of the ring rather than in it

Jimmy Wang Yang

Jimmy Wang Yang: PUSH HIM!!! This guy is very entertaining in the ring and could possibly save the cruiserwight division.



Next up: Cody Rhodes!

[wezley]

push him because for either cruserweight title or just put in sum low mid card status fueds like with kenny dykstra or funaki lol or hardcore holly ( when he comes back) then this is a big maybe if he gets pops and gets over with the fans, maybe title shots for US title but not winning obviously.

charlie haas

[wezley]

cody rhodes push him as a heel i think he would do very weel as heel, maybe a little work on his mic skills and a good finisher i think he would do very well

charlie haas (again)

[Papa Shango]

Push him- I know I said in a different thread that he should be released, but now that I think about it, he could be shipped over to Smackdown to increase their product. Seperate the WGTT, Shelton's too good to be stuck in a tag team. Charlie Haas could either be put in US title division or you could put him in another tag team. It seems to me as if Charlie Haas is a tag team specialist. He's been in three good tag teams (w/ Benjamin, Rico, and Holly). He could really be helpful to some struggling guys like Kenny Dykstra, now that could be a good tag team. Feel free to comment on this theory: A Charlie Haas/Kenny Dykstra tag team.
Now, push or cut: Daivari

[sledge450]

Charlie Hass - Cut him. The recent wellness incident is pretty much the final straw. WGTT are great, but Shelton is by far the standout of the team, and i just feel he has brought in short term to boost the lackluster tag division. Also, as hes shown in the past he cant get over as a singles guy, and tag teams don't stay around forever. Dont get me wrong, the guy can wrestle, but he's not going anywhere so use the wellness incident to get rid of him and push Shelton.

Next up - The Boogeyman.

[Captain Charisma.]

Cut him. He has no chance at a title, it's basically a lost cause.

Kevin Thorn

[sledge450]

Davari - Push him, but as a manager. He is sooo much better on the mike than in the ring, and he could be a priceless talent to the company..if used right. But jobbing him out on Heat is not the right way to go. He put over Hassan, Khali and could do the same with others. He has the potential to be the anti-American Jim Cornette. But hes going nowhere in the ring.

Keeping the boards clean, still THE BOOGEYMAN

[sledge450]

Cut him. He has no chance at a title, it's basically a lost cause.

Kevin Thorn

Who are you referring to, Davari or the Boogeyman. Edit your post accordingly please.

As for Kevin Thorn, i think they should Push him, if they keep the strap on Punk i think he could have a decent feud with him for the strap. And as for Vince pushing big guys, id rather see him get pushed over Big daddy V, at least he has some in-ring skills and a watchable gimmick. Plus, supernatuaral gimmicks always go over well with the fans.

Next up, either Davari or the boogeyman, depending on who Captain Charisma's earlier post was referring too.

[mikeRC]

Boogeyman-cut him his gimmick is crap and people arnt into it anymore.

next up The Miz

[use tag teams more]

the boogeyman- push him, but change the gimmick the wwe doesn't need someone who scares little kids, they already have the great khali for that. remember a few weeks ago, the boogeyman vs. john morrison that match showcased his in-ring ability and thats why he deserves a new gimmick.

up for discussion: nunzio

[ImpactPlayer27]

Okay. I heard a lot of names being thrown in here so I'm summing it up to the best that I can.

Santino Marella- Cut him. Boring to watch in the ring. And the "obsessive, jealous, and/or abusive" boyfriend thing they got with him and Maria, it's been done to death. Cut him loose.

Chuck Palumbo- Cut him. His gimmick is just a cheap rip-off of the American Badass gimmick that Taker once had. At least Taker made that gimmick work.
But Palumbo, no. Cut him.

Kenny Dykstra- Push him. He's got skill and could be big if he's pushed the right way. So I say push him.

Tommy Dreamer- Keep him. I know a lot of the originals are gone but I just can't bring myself to do it. I have to keep him.

Big Daddy V- Cut him. I'm sick of the WWE's obsession with monsters in the ring. The line needs to be drawn somewhere. So cut him.

Carlito- Cut him. They tried everything with this guy, even a face turn and nothing has worked. And honestly, Triple H vs Carlito? Triple H would kill him.

Finlay- Keep him. He's really not that bad in the ring.

Jimmy Wang Yang- Only reason I'd keep him is because for some reason, crowd seems to like him. If that weren't a factor along with him having some skill, I'd say cut him.

Shelton Benjamin- Whatever Benjamin once had during his first singles push, it's gone. And I don't know whether he can have it back. So I'd say unless in a tag team, cut him.

Kevin Thorn- Cut him. I haven't been that impressed with the guy. Wasn't impressed with him as Mordecai and not now either.

Boogeyman- Cut him. The gimmick is comedic and because of that, not even a heel turn would be possible for him. And his skill in the ring is unimpressive.

Davari- Cut him. Without Hassan or Khali, there is no point to him at all. Cut him loose.


And some other ones that I want to throw on the cut or push list.

Snitsky, Matt Striker, Regal, Ron Simmons.

[wezley]

ron simmons :- keep, he can put on a decent match even thou his last match was survivor series and basically hes quite funny with the damn gimmick

regal hes gm but if he wasnt i wud cut him

matt stricker cut him, hes an idiot

snitsky :- only liked him with kane on raw so cut him

nunzio put him with chuck palumbo some time.

next pick is the miz and stevie richards

[ImpactPlayer27]

Before, I'd say to cut Stevie but you know what, he's not bad in the matches that he's had. I see some potential for him so keep him.

The Miz, this chick magnet gimmick just isn't working and he's not that great in the ring. I'm saying and it's a borderline decision because if his gimmick is changed, keep him. Otherwise, cut him.


Okay. To add to the list. Jamie Noble and Shannon Moore, Val Venis, The Highlanders

[SteWieH]

Jamie Noble - PUSH him. seen him wrestle in ROH? he got the talernt thou he hardly see him anymore.
Shannon Moore - boot. and who is this?I hard of him maybe once lately? not much is being done expecially after they fucked up his ecw push by like not doing it at the same time and did nothing with him
Val Venis - Push him. maybe a new gimmick? He a good wrestler He always stood up but not as a porn star. that gimiick is so old
The Highlanders - BOOT they don't seem to do much except act wierd and are good for taking bumps

up next - Balls Mahony Mike KNox, and snitsky

[S92]

Before, I'd say to cut Stevie but you know what, he's not bad in the matches that he's had. I see some potential for him so keep him.

The Miz, this chick magnet gimmick just isn't working and he's not that great in the ring. I'm saying and it's a borderline decision because if his gimmick is changed, keep him. Otherwise, cut him.


Okay. To add to the list. Jamie Noble and Shannon Moore, Val Venis, The Highlanders

Noble is the brains behind the whole cruiserweight division, Push him to the moon and I guarentee that the fans will respond, just like with the Nidia gimmick.

Shannon Moore is a guy who for some reason, I like. He's not that bad in the ring or on the Mic, and he's always improving. Push him.

Val is over the hill, so to speak, but can still put on a good match. He'll slide into an office job and stay behind the scenes.

Highlanders... meh. What happened to these guys? Cut them.

[Big Beck-ah Roethlisberger]

Balls Mahoney~ i think he still has some thing to offer to the WWE so i will keep him around in his jobber rule and nothing more. So i say he should stay with a little push.

Mike Knox~ I was never a big fan of him so i say cut him because he has no role play on ECW, and has never ever impressed me. So i say cut him

Snitsky~ Terrible i say cut him he is basically like excess fat, a pain no matter where it is. He cant work a match and the fans cant stand him so i say he should take his business somewhere else.

Stay with the same Snitsky Balls Mahoney and Mike Knox

[kenchoe]

Let's start fresh...

Mr. Kennedy


I'd say...CUT him! His gimmick is already played out, his in-ring work is subpar at best, and every time the WWE tries to push him to the top, either he gets injured, or he does something dumb (Signature Pharmacy).

Fate keeps knocking on WWE's head...it wasn't meant to be. Let him go...looks like another Love TKO...

Next up: Marcus Cor Von.

[leewallace13]

By Love of god Cut Super Crazy and Carlito i dont see the point of carlitogetting a push hes so boring

i think kenny dykstra should be drafted to ecw new champion :):D and i think Maria should get a go at the womans championship

[leewallace13]

Ok Lets Get Onto the diva's

What do you think about Victoria and Maria

[ImpactPlayer27]

Okay. A lot of names getting thrown here.

Mike Knox-I forgot all about him. And now that I remember him, I wish I didn't. Boring in the ring. Crazy boyfriend of Kelly Kelly gimmick was stupid. Cut him.

Balls Mahoney- One of the last of the ECW originals and has something to offer so I say keep him. Plus, he's in a lot better shape than he was when the real ECW was around.

Snitsky- Already vented about the guy but once again, Cut him.

Monty Brown (refuse to call him Marcus Cor Von)- Cut him. I know I'm hating on him for leaving TNA but he hasn't been on since June. Cut him loose. He doesn't have the heart or committment to stay in pro wrestling.

Kennedy- Keep him. He's like a new version of the Rock to me and I think he's funny.

Super Crazy- Doesn't fit on Raw. At least in Smackdown, you had the cruiserweight division but Crazy hasn't been what he was since the Tajiri/Super Crazy days in ECW. Hard as it is for me to say, cut him.

As for the divas

Melina- Cut her loose. One good entrance and that's all she's got. her voice is annoying and there is no way you'll get me to say she's a better women wrestler than Mickie James.

Victoria- Better wrestler and never seems to get the right push. Keep her and give her a good push.

Maria- Love that girl and you know she's trying and the crowd is into her. Keep her.


To add some more to this topic here: Jillian Hall, Michelle McCool

[Papa Shango]

OK, I'm fixing this:
Push Super Crazy and Carlito, WWE is real hort on talent right now this is thier time to shine. Push Kenny Dykstra on SD either in the US title Picture or in a tag team. Push Victoria, ship Maria to SM. Cut Jillian, too annoying, and push Michelle SOOOO Hot and talented.
Now circling back to Marcus Cor Von:
PUSH THE HELL OUT OF HIM! He got the shaft in TNA, he wants this badly. He can run with a ECW title reign and then ship him to RAW. He's a future star in the making.
Push or cut: Jesse and Festus

[codeamode]

cut jillian, keep michelle

next-john morrison, i know management likes him, but the people dont seem to, what do YOU think

[leewallace13]

Cut John Morrison !!

He Is No Way Talanted

[headake151]

does someone seriously think kennedy should be cut? I just find it hard to believe someone said his has no in ring ability. This guy managed to make even Batista and Carlito look good in singles matches. His gimmick is hilarious and this guy is gonna be around for a while.

What do yo guys think about getting chavo into the US title picture?

[The not-so Great Khali]

What do yo guys think about getting chavo into the US title picture?

No way. The only cruiserweight I would have wrestle outside the division (not including Mysterio since he already has) is a returnign Gregory Helms. Also after what happened to Eddie, you'd think Chavo would've stopped taking drugs but since he has just been suspended it looks like all hes interested in is money. Back to the thread i'd cut Chavo. Next up - Hornswoggle McMahon!

[etw2007]

Hornswoggle...thats hard. i think he should be cut cos he's really starting to exceed the limit of what he can do in the ring.
next up - Kane

[Ratedt]

Let's start fresh...

Mr. Kennedy


I'd say...CUT him! His gimmick is already played out, his in-ring work is subpar at best, and every time the WWE tries to push him to the top, either he gets injured, or he does something dumb (Signature Pharmacy).

Fate keeps knocking on WWE's head...it wasn't meant to be. Let him go...looks like another Love TKO...

Next up: Marcus Cor Von.


I agree with you 100% on the Kennedy point.
Marcus Cor Von i say push him. I feel his in ring work is solid an with proper mic time he could cut a decent promo

[Freedom 35]

Cut John Morrison !!

He Is No Way Talanted

wait a minure John Morrison is pretty good he is getting good on the mic and his work in the ring has been pretty good too defenitely dont cut him

next up-Kevin Thorne

[ImpactPlayer27]

Kane- Keep him. He still has some stuff left in him. I wouldn't cut him.
Hornswoggle- The joke has run it's course in my opinion. cut him.

Chavo- Not ready for the US title much less the world title and I'm tired of him in the cruiserweight. But at the same time, I wouldn't cut him.

John Morrison- People are either booing him because his gimmick is nothing short of a Jim Morrison rip off or because he's supposed to be a heel. But he does have talent so you gotta keep him.

Randy Orton- He's lucky he has talent otherwise I'd cut him. However, talent aside, I'd call this his last chance because if I was in charge and he acted up or did anythinhg wrong, then he'd be gone because this guy has been on thin ice for a long time. So I'd keep Orton but it'd be probationary

Okay here's some more here. Chris Masters, Umaga, Charlie Haas