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arvwillnotdie
12-16-2007, 05:25 AM
ok most definitely Mr. Kennedy. That move is so beyond lame, it's not even funny anymore. The first timeI saw the guy do it, I was like alright, thats new. Nothing really too impressive though. The move barely looks devastating at all.

MVP too, the playmaker? come on mang, thats a cool name for a finishing move but seriously man, does that really make plays? i always feel sorry to which ever wrestler has to drop to that crappy move. That would barely stun you.

False_Hope
12-18-2007, 04:20 PM
What I have seen kennedy do, which if he tweaked it a bit would be pretty nice, I think it is a reverse STO. Like instead of going forward and throwing the opponent on thier back, he would go backwards and they would fall on their face. I always liked that move. It would probably fit Kennedy well if he did it with more speed. What do you all think?

King Paul The Awesome
12-20-2007, 03:24 PM
I think that Santino should use the roll of the dice.

MVP could use the Un-prettier (unless Candice still uses it).

Gangrel's DDT (not the one Edge uses) was sick, Mr Kennedy could use that.

If done safely, how about the Piledriver, the best piledriver IMO was by Billy Gunn (don't laugh)

Other moves that could be used are the Cloverleaf, Double Arm DDT (Makind won the WWF title against Stone Cold at SummerSlam 99 with the Double Arm), perhaps the Michinoku Driver or even the Rkishi Driver.

Rusty
12-23-2007, 11:47 PM
There are many wrestlers that need new finishers, but what about the superstars who dont even have finshers??? Eg, Cody Rhodes(I dont think ddt should be a finsher), Santino Marella needs one so bad. Many others lyk D.H Smith etc.

BDOG
12-24-2007, 12:54 AM
Does anyone remember when Carlito used a reverse swinging neckbreaker as his finisher? it can be seen in elimination chamber 2005.. before edge wins the title... santino would be perfect for that as its a sneak attack from behind... I think mvp should have a submission finsher as he is a techniqual wrestler, his not a power machine or high flyer so it would be perfect

Lyez. D
12-24-2007, 08:58 AM
I def. think that Mr.Kennedy needs a new finisher or atleast be allowed to do the Green Bay Plunge. Every succesful wrestler has a move that has impact to it. Except that leg drop. I just don't like him using the complete shot or the steam roller. I need to see something that'll be like "Oh yeah he hit it, it's over."

Undercurrent
12-24-2007, 03:59 PM
Mr Kennedy most definitely needs a finisher in place as he continues to bounce around with the complete shot, steam roller and Green Bay Plunge. He also had a neckbreaker finisher that got scraped for whatever reason.

Edge is a great wrestler but his spear comes off extremely weak looking. I would love to see him start using the Edgecution or Edgecator again.

I would also prefer MVP to use a new finisher as the overdrive is typically used as a transition one for new superstars.

I also agree with many of you who claimto miss CM Punk's Anaconda Vice. I feel that was one of the most effective submission finishers around and it's a shame we don't have the privilege to see it put on anymore. I'm a fan of the GTS but I feel it would be a fantastic set up for the Anaconda Vice.

the_franchise
01-06-2008, 07:30 AM
Santino should have a submission, something like a triangle hold, since his original gimmick was suppose to be Angle's portege and they built him up in OVW as a MMA/Shoot fighter.

Kennedy should use Carlito's rolling reverse DDT move, but tweaked a bit.

Lashley needs to stick with the Dominator, he needs to stop using the running powerslam and especially the Spear! It makes Edge's look less effective, since Lashley is a power wrestler.

Before Cody gets a finisher, he needs to polish up his skills a bit more and most of all, have a gimmick or a moniker.. The kid is a bit boring and like in the previous threads a tad bit scrawny... I see potential in him, but as of now it seems like their riding him off of his father's success and fame, he needs to breakout and create his own... It would be great to see in the near future a feud between him and Orton.

rKo0019
01-07-2008, 02:45 AM
Edge: Stop using the spear. Just stop.

CM Punk: The GTS is a unique finisher, but it depends on if the opponent can sell it correctly to make it look like an awesome move. I also prefer the Anaconda Vice, but due to the whole Benoit tragedy I think WWE is still a little wary about using chokeholds as finishers.

The Miz: A swinging neckbreaker? Doesn't every midcarder use that move as just a regular old move? I may be mistaken, but I have seen him use it to end matches.

Shelton Benjamin: The T-Bone just doesn't fit him. Something that shows off his athleticism.

Conor *Charmismo*
01-07-2008, 06:56 AM
Mr Kennedy most definitely needs a finisher in place as he continues to bounce around with the complete shot, steam roller and Green Bay Plunge. He also had a neckbreaker finisher that got scraped for whatever reason.

Edge is a great wrestler but his spear comes off extremely weak looking. I would love to see him start using the Edgecution or Edgecator again.

I would also prefer MVP to use a new finisher as the overdrive is typically used as a transition one for new superstars.

I also agree with many of you who claimto miss CM Punk's Anaconda Vice. I feel that was one of the most effective submission finishers around and it's a shame we don't have the privilege to see it put on anymore. I'm a fan of the GTS but I feel it would be a fantastic set up for the Anaconda Vice.


Exactly what i was thinking.


I would love Edge to start using the Edgecator, however as the coward heel he is, he kind of needs a move you can hit out of nowhere to shock everyone.

I think MVP should use some kind of suplex, like a perfect 'plex to claim how amazing he is. Really show off on his finisher.

I also think if Shannon Moore had a finisher that would help out the Moore Wang (ha) tag team.

DeadmanInc.
01-09-2008, 02:50 PM
I kinda like Mr. Kennedy and his many "weak" finishers instead of one high impact move. It makes his matches less predictable.

MVP definitely needs a new finisher. The overdrive doesn't even look painful at all. Umaga could use a new finisher as well. The Samoan Spike is decent, but I think he should have a high risk move to show off his agility. The Spike could me his set-up move.

Edge definitely needs a new finisher. The spear is nice and all, but guys like Lashley and Batista make Edge's spear look pathetic. He should use the Edgecator again.

Afro-Ameri-Spawn
01-10-2008, 01:50 AM
Alot of people are going to hate what I am about to say, but I will say it anways. The wrestler who I think needs a new finisher is.... Shawn Michaels!

Now I know that you have to wonder why I would say him, but there is validity behind my madness.

For one, the superkick is not like the Figure Four leg lock. Not everybody can do it, and it takes precise precision to be able to pull it off legitimately.

For two, (unfortunately) due to Shawn Micheals knee problems, he can no longer pull it off witht he crisp accuracy that it deserves. Sure Shawn used to be able to snap it off with such impact that gum used to fly from his opponents mouths to make it look like they were losing teeth.

For three, that has not been the case of late as Shawn has looked like he is slapping guys in the face with a wet flounder when he pulls off the move.

I think that a nice secondary move would do the job for Shawn. Perhaps a submission finisher or an arm-type finishing manuver. Something that he can do and not hurt himself too much. Maybe a sleeper or something of the such. But if he keeps doing the Sweet Chin Music the way that he currently does, then I have to wonder why anybody will sell it.

Freedom 35
01-10-2008, 01:55 AM
to start this off Im just gonna say Kennedy just needs A finisher because things hes been trying havent been working.

I liked the green Bay Plunge top rope or not but hes seemed to have gotten away from it, the mic check( I think thats what its called) is shit and a DDT just isnt a main event quality finisher anymore, Id say give him a Death Valley Driver or a TKO for a finisher those would seem to suit him well. As an eventual main event superstar I say he needs a legit finisher, and quick

b0bby
01-10-2008, 06:53 AM
Matt Hardy - Jeff Hardy has pretty much came into he's own now and is useing the Twist Of Fate as a set up for the Swanton Bomb. I think Matt needs to come into he's own eliment and come over with a new gimmick and a new finisher, I would like to see Matt refresh he's character and become a heel.

StrangerX9
01-11-2008, 10:00 PM
OK first of all I totally agree that MVP's finisher "The Playmaker" is fucking retarted. The other guy is doing more than MVP is, like does anyone else see this. I feel like not enough wrestler have enough high flying movies like Jeff Hardy. I belive he's getting such a huge push because of his high flying moves. Rey Mysterio too gets a huge push cause he's a high flyer.

So anyways, Yeah MVP's finisher BLOWS!!! Jeff Hardy, Rey Mysterio and A.J. Styles' finishers are awsome sauce. Also bring back RVD and Jerry Lynn there are both awsome high flyers.

JohnnyWrestledude
01-12-2008, 12:29 AM
I want to first respond to Spawn.

"I think that a nice secondary move would do the job for Shawn. Perhaps a submission finisher or an arm-type finishing manuver. Something that he can do and not hurt himself too much. Maybe a sleeper or something of the such. But if he keeps doing the Sweet Chin Music the way that he currently does, then I have to wonder why anybody will sell it."

Shawn uses not only the sharpshooter, but now the crossface as setup for the superkick. Just pointing that out.

That being said, I agree with bobby(banned). Matt Hardy needs a new finisher. The twist of fate is getting pretty old anyway, regardless if Jeff is using it now. I also agree that Matt should turn heel again. He's just way better at heel than face. I'd like to see him also have a devastating finisher, like some kind of wicked "Petey Williams" type piledriver. Actually, I think all WWE guys should change it up more often. A lesson could be learned from WSX. Those guys finished matches in a different way every time out.

rockofhysteria
01-12-2008, 12:32 AM
There are a couple of People I think need a new finisher.

Randy Orton- I have always hated the RKO it is nothing more than a rip off of the Diamond Cutter.

Edge- The Spear has become such a generic move in wrestling now with guys like Batista and Bobby Lashley untilizing it Even though I am a Huge Edge mark I just wouldn't really buy that a spear from a guy that lean would be so devastating.

MVP- He needs a new finisher besides all he did with the playmaker was take Carlito's old finisher before he started using the back cracker.


Rey Mysterio- Ok the 619 was a cool move when he debuted it but in my opinion the novelty wore off around 2005.


Shawn Michaels, I think if HBK comes up with something to do besides the super kick it might pro long his career.


Mr Kennedy- I think he really doesn't have any finishing moves just a couple of impact moves and one rip off of Jeff Hardy.

Batista-I hate batista anyways but really how many powerbombs are needed in pro wrestling so many have used it and still use it in the past and present it like the spear has become generic.

and my final vote goes for HHH- He has been using the pedigree for over ten years including his short stint in WCW I think its time for a change.

TimmyTallsoxx
01-12-2008, 01:09 AM
ok now i got something different im sure alot of people will disagree with me but i believe taker should lay off the tombstone . sure its part of his legacy but it just looks so fake and maybe jbl could use something different sure the clothesline from hell is devastating but a clothes line ?even his powerbomb. i would like to see someone use the razors edge as a finisher maybe kennedy

BDOG
01-12-2008, 01:46 AM
Jeff Hardy needs another finisher... the twist of fate is old and doesnt make a statement.. he can't rely on the swanton bomb to finish all of his matches it's getting to predictable.... Another couple guys who need one are the miz and morrison.. i mean cmon there just neckbreakers!!

AnthonyMango/NoFate007
01-12-2008, 02:03 AM
I think overall, right now, the Undertaker and Jeff Hardy have the best standing in terms of finishers. This isn't saying that they're the best moves, though. Its just that they both have 3 moves that could count as a legitimate end to the match: Tombstone/Chokeslam/Triangle Choke....Swanton Bomb/Twist of Fate/Whisper in the Wind. That's how I think all wrestlers should try to aim for, having one signature move (Tombstone/Swanton), one set-up (Chokeslam/ToF), and one move for submission (Triangle Choke...Whisper obviously doesn't count here).

That being said:

1. CM Punk - He needs to use the Anaconda Vice again. Too much focus on the GTS.

2. Santino Marella - Actually, he needs a finisher, PERIOD. The guy doesn't have one. I think it would suit his character if it was something quick and definitely not devastating, even if it just means some sort of a distinguished roll-up maneuver, SOMETHING.

3. JBL - This guy bores the crap out of me in the ring and his finish follows the same schedule. A clothesline? Come on. Go back to the 70s where the Hogan leg-drop was acceptable.

4. Mr. Kennedy - The Green Bay Plunge looked like it could've been a nice set-up move. The Mic Check...eh, its ok. I'd like it better if Shelton wasn't doing something close to it already. Yeah, I know, its not the same move, but its close and has the same impact.

5. Cody Rhodes - I still think he needs to upgrade his DDT somehow.

6. Kane - I've just never liked the idea that his finisher is the secondary move for the Undertaker. It makes it seem like in all these years, he couldn't think of anything on his own. I wouldn't mind if it was a chokebomb instead of just a chokeslam, though.


People are pretty much saying the same stuff that I'd be saying, so I'm just gonna leave it at those. No use going over MVP and Edge and stuff again.

macca93
01-12-2008, 02:18 AM
I liked the green Bay Plunge top rope or not but hes seemed to have gotten away from it, the mic check( I think thats what its called) is shit

The mic check is actually a variation of a move in judo. when it is hit with that much impact it will actually break ur nose and/or jaw. i have never objected to wrestlers using real martial arts moves and am not goin to start now. i suppose its better then some fake ass move like the unprettier which basically requires the opponent to do all the work for him.

Mr Kennedy- I think he really doesn't have any finishing moves just a couple of impact moves and one rip off of Jeff Hardy

im assuming ur talking about the swanton when u say he is ripping off jeff. u do realise that jeff hardy 'Ripped off' this move from Jushin 'Thunder' Liger? is there a problem with that?

rockofhysteria
01-13-2008, 12:16 AM
I did know that Liger did it first but Jeff Hardy is the one who made the move famous in america and all I am saying is someone like Kennedy needs to have a good finisher thats original and not a move already used by someone else in the wwe

Rylan Roode
01-13-2008, 11:45 AM
mvp needs a new one punk needs to go back to the vise that was wicked mvp should use that move that that pirate guy used to use he set him up for a rock bottom then hit a backflip thats awesome as for anyone else john cena needs somthing new the fu doesnt look like anything that would do anything but knock some of the wind outta u he needs somthing fast n efffective

DeadmanInc.
01-13-2008, 06:07 PM
ok now i got something different im sure alot of people will disagree with me but i believe taker should lay off the tombstone . sure its part of his legacy but it just looks so fake and maybe jbl could use something different sure the clothesline from hell is devastating but a clothes line ?even his powerbomb. i would like to see someone use the razors edge as a finisher maybe kennedy

Undertaker has a lot of finishers: Tombstone, Last Ride, Chokeslam, and occasionally the Triangle Choke. Plus, he gets a huge pop whenever he uses the Tombstone. I just wonder how long he can keep having his knees smashing the canvas with that kind of impact.

The Razor's Edge would be a great finisher for Kennedy. He needs one high impact finisher, and Razor's Edge is a perfect candidate. His current finishers are decent, but not devastating. Though I like that his matches aren't predictable since he has many finishing moves.

Papa Shango
01-13-2008, 07:05 PM
I don't know, I kinda like the Mike Check that's he's been using lately. It works for him, and introducing it against HBK really boosts the credibility of the finisher.

Santino needs a finisher, period. I don't think he's ever finished a match with anything besides a rollup. MAybe the Sicilian Slicer. It's not like Nunzio ever gets a chance to use it anymore.

Mike1517r
01-14-2008, 04:14 PM
I think it would be great for Kennedy to use the Razor's Edge, the Mic Check isn't bad, but it has been used by many different wrestlers in the past and they have never kept it as a finisher either.

I agree Santino needs a finisher, anything he is great on the mic but has shown no wrestling ability at all.

Snitsky-I still dont think he serves a purpose on the show, but the big boot and pump handle slam dont cut it, if you want him to be a monster give him a move that is devastating, maybe he could use the Razor's Edge.

BRING BACK THE RAZOR'S EDGE!!!!!!!!!!

crazy88
01-24-2008, 03:40 AM
Some might think I've lost my mind, but I think Edge needs to stop using the spear and go back to some of his old finishers. Like the Impaler DDT, that was a great finisher. I love seeing it. Or the Edgeucator, that was an aewsome submission manuver. Would like to see more wresrlers use a submission moves. THEY'RE GREAT!

robwylde90
01-24-2008, 08:50 AM
The mic check is a pretty good finisher as its incredibly versatile and he can do it to anyone at anytime, unlike the green bay plunge. And really when a guy goes out of the way to name a finisher for himself , hes probably gonna use it for a while, like everyone else just called MVPs finisher the overdrive when they used it but now that MVP calls it the playmaker it seems more like his own move.

Shanks18
01-24-2008, 12:10 PM
According to Wikipedia, so you know it's true!, Santino uses the an inverted swinging neckbreaker as his finishing move and used standing inverted fujiwara armbar while he was in OVW. Unless he's been using the neckbreaker during house shows, I've never seen it.

Seems a few of people have been using a reverse STO as of late, Shelton, Drew McIntyre, Kennedy. Edge and Carlito have used it too. It works I guess, better than the Green Bat Plunge, deffanitly.

MVP's overdrive needs scrapping big time, I read on another board that he used to perfom a pretty stiff kick and occasionaly a springboard SSP - if he broke that out at WM, againt Matt Hardy I'd mark out for hours on end!

er0z
01-24-2008, 03:48 PM
1.MVP (a future star) but has a crappy finisher.
2.Snitsky by the way what's his finisher? pump handle slam or whatever it's called looks very weak
3.shelton his old t-bone suplex was a basic move and his new finisher doesn't look too good

Enigmania
01-28-2008, 11:34 AM
MVP should use the Million Dollar Dream - think that a good submission finisher is what he needs. Otherwise a Death Valley Driver would outshine the FU.

Kennedy maybe something simple like a hanging brainbuster while his opponent hangs upside down he uses his other hand to mock reaching for his microphone then crashes down.

ThaRock2780
01-29-2008, 05:43 PM
List of Superstars that need new finishers

Edge: I mean a spear WTF Edge is 100 pounds soaking wet with 2 bricks in his pocket you can't convince me that his spear finishes people. It should be a set up for his finisher which he used previously it was a submission move called the Edgucator. He's Canadian, and canadian wrestlers are best know for there submission finishing moves. If he lead with that move I think it would elevate his popularity even as a heel.

I liked the dominator for bobby lashley not that running powerslam - but he is gone from wwe.

Snitsky's pump handle slam is okay but needs work.

Whats with Matt hardy having two moves. He has the side affect and the twist of fate. Share the wealth The side affect should go to another wrestler like Shelton Benjamin or Johnny Nitro both of there current moves SUCK ASS.

Rey Mysterio needs a new move other than that west coast pop, the 619 is cool but the west coast pop sucks....

62jakethesnake
01-30-2008, 12:14 AM
if mvp could reverse his overdrive it would look sick also mr kennedys mic check is good but it needs a little more power put into it . mark henry should leave for 6 months go on the biggestloser come back ten i might consider his trainwrecks of finishers. they should give khali some sort of delayed suplex to show his height, also the peron in the wwe who needs a finisher the most is shelton benjamin he could skyrocket to sucess with a good finisher i just dont know what ......

BigMike1994
01-30-2008, 12:34 AM
List of Superstars that need new finishers

Edge: I mean a spear WTF Edge is 100 pounds soaking wet with 2 bricks in his pocket you can't convince me that his spear finishes people. It should be a set up for his finisher which he used previously it was a submission move called the Edgucator. He's Canadian, and canadian wrestlers are best know for there submission finishing moves. If he lead with that move I think it would elevate his popularity even as a heel.

I agree Edge should change his lead finisher no one would get taken down that easy by a 200 something pound man. Edge should change his lead finisher back the Edgucution, (Modified D.T.D.) This move was quick and easy and I liked the way he did it. Also Edge should use his Edgucator from time to time I haven't seen that in a while.

But really I think MVP should change his finisher, OverDrive/PlayMaker? I would rename this move "The Face Plant" this would hert MVP more than it would his opponent, but I'm not sure what he should change it too though.

Highlight Reel
01-30-2008, 05:12 PM
Mr. Kennedy needs something out than the Blackout DDT. I honestly didn't see what was wrong with the Steam Roller he had, or the Greenbay Plunge. But I don't think that move will get Kennedy any fame. Orlando Jordan was okay with it, but something bugs me about Ken using it.

62jakethesnake
01-30-2008, 11:19 PM
another thing if cena changed things up and added the widow maker to his finishers it might be cool but we all know cena only adds a move every 4 years so we gotta wait till 2010 for this to happen

bucheonman
02-02-2008, 09:11 AM
Kane: The chokeslam is such a normal move for every big guy. It's no more special when Kane does it. Too bad they gave that cool new submission move to Undertaker and not Kane.

Edge: The Spear could be his occasional finisher, but he could use a different one.

Cody Rhodes: Same thing with his DDT.

Nitro: A swinging neckbreaker just doesn't cut it.

Mark Henry: A bearhug?

ChiefsFan8211
02-02-2008, 12:03 PM
MVP- It looks so funny. He falls on his face. He should use some sort of submission hold.

Matt Hardy- Almost every superstar has 2 finishers, only a select few like Kane, HBK, and HHH can get by with the impact of just one finisher. I think Matt needs a second to compliment the Twist Of Fate. Some sort of top rope move maybe.

Miz- Knee to the face + neckbracker = Finisher???? I dont think so.

Morrison- The swinging neckbracker is pretty, but just not finisher material.

LadyFranchise
02-02-2008, 12:14 PM
I completely agree with everyone who said Edge. I mean his spear looks pretty effective but I doubt it will take every man down. I miss the edgecution. He should go back using that movie instead.

Also, I would reccomend that Snitsky get a new finisher too. I know that he doesn't wrestle on tv that often but seriously, if you are trying to become a monster heel than you need to be using something else instead of the weak pump handle slam.

RKO Orton
02-02-2008, 02:55 PM
I think CM Punk needs a new finisher. He's more of a submission type of guy and the GTS doesn't even looks like it connects. He uses that move way too much. He should use the Anaconda Vice again as a second finisher. He used it when he first came to WWE but has stopped. I think he should go back to it. I think Edge should use the Edgecution some more too.

JulesWagner
02-02-2008, 04:08 PM
Didn't MVP use a nice Deathlock on Benoit during their 2 out of 3 falls a while back? Might be a sweet maneuver if you can manage to add a little something to it. He could always call his Submission finish the Shutout, has a nice ring to it. I always liked Danielson's Cattle Mutilation and I don't know how that might look in a Crab position... A sort of Full-Nelson Camel Clutch.

Now if you're gonna be using a standing fireman carry, you might as well use the Widowmaker. You hook the leg, you flip the upper body. Much more impact to the neck and head...

As for Edge, I liked the Edge-O-Matic. Just not convinced it could ever be a genuine finisher, but the spear definitely sucks. Good for a momentum shift but no more.

Kennedy? As much as I like the KennedyDT, I think he should be more suited for a Fisherman Buster or something like the Shovel Driver (elevated inverted DDT dropped as a driver). A variation of the Crossface is also an option.

Guys like Batista and Khali don't need new finishers, they need a new walk of life... Let's not try to improve on the "My name is Batista and I use a Bomb" finisher as his very limited skills make the basic version already oh so very difficult. What a joke! Built like a brick wall and he can't even properly lift anybody over 225 pounds. Good thing he has that "wicked" and "devastating" spine buster...

We have to accept the fact that considering WWE's vast list of banned maneuvers, the options are very limited in reality. Lashley dropped the Dominator probably because most high profile wrestlers wouldn't take it. I for one would invert the World's Strongest Slam, front-first, baby!

The list is huge but it is greatly cut down by WWE's restrictions. Ask Paul London who must really be appreciating those long years of training...
Somehow I doubt they would end up giving anybody a Burning Hammer finisher. Could be fun to watch, though...

P.S: Mysterio doesn't need a new finisher. He can pin 350+ pound guys with a short-range body splash. A body splash for crying out loud!! Some people have been trying to make me understand that he has a "BIG" heart, but somehow I doubt that sort of heart would make a chipmunk heavier.

Jay_Dawg
02-03-2008, 02:30 AM
Kennedy's Mic Check is a great new finisher. I always like the green bay plunge but then he stopped doing that of the second rope and it turned into a poor version of the Steam Roller.

Shelton's "Super Kick" was overrated and his new inverted bulldog is great. I think my version is better though i used it way b4 him :p

MVP needs a new finisher. Overdrive is a rookie's finisher. Orton used it in his rookie year. Test used it in his rookie year. MVP needs a new finisher if he is going to carry this company.

Brian Kendrick can pull off a lot of huge moves but is still using the sliced bread #2. He has had that move since 2003 and i think it is time for a new move.

brudog56
02-03-2008, 12:02 PM
C.M. Punk needs a new finisher. Why lift a guy up onto your shoulders just to drop him on your knee? And the worst thing is he'll never be able to do that move to bigger guys.

Testicular Claw
02-03-2008, 05:26 PM
I think theres nothing wrong with having a simple finisher. I know some of you are against things like DDT or Spear or a Big Boot. To me what matters is how you set up your move, if you perform your move nice, and if your move fits your character.

I hate it when wrestlers use complicated moves that are awkward and often times get botched or it just doesn't come off looking very smoothly. I'm hope Kennedy is done with the Green Bay Plunge. For the most part I'm against heels having top rope moves unless it's part of their gimmick like it was with heel rob van dam or John Morrison. I really hope MVP does something else other than the Playmaker, it just never looks right. I don't think CM Punk is strong enough, or coordinated enough to pull off Go To Sleep.

I would actually love to see it go back to the old days where you could win a match with a knee drop. To me that's reasonably realistic. I mean someone dropping their knee on your face would really hurt especially after a grueling stand up brawling match. But yeah, I think simple finishers are good. JBL's closeline was perfect for him. Screw some of this fancy shit.

I think Randy Orton's head kick is awesome and should be used as his main finisher actually instead of the RKO.

Paul London needs a finisher because I don't think he's allowed to SSP anymore. I was thinking some sort of flying Enzuguri would be good for him.

Samtastic84
02-05-2008, 07:19 PM
Kennedy and MVP need new finishers. CM Punk should use the anaconda vice more often. The pepsi plunge was cool but I don't think triple h would let him since its so close to his pedigree.

1997RAWFan
02-16-2008, 05:57 PM
Definitely Mr. Kennedy. The Mic Check is an okay move, but it's not really a credible move for a finisher. He'd better change again if he wants to main event one day.

elijah ecw express
02-16-2008, 06:17 PM
i think rey mysterio, once he comes back from his injury, he definitely needs to change it up a bit. am i the only one who has gotten bored with the 619 and seated senton? granted, im not a big mysterio fan, but that's because he pulls the same moves week after week after week, sure he can fly, but he needs a finisher that says that he can use his leverage in order to create some real offense, not just high-flier offense.

Santino needs a finisher, although I can't ever remember him pinning anybody besides Umaga (and that was with outside help.) But now he needs a finisher, unless they want us to get tired of seeing Carlito's back stabber every week.

therockyfan316
02-16-2008, 06:49 PM
im thinking cm punk should change up his finisher: after lifting the opponent on his shoulder, instead of hitting them with one knee while standing up, he should do the new y2j finisher with both knees to the face while falling on his back. also, y2j should scrap his finisher lol...but its amazing how the crowd already reacts to it.

also, imagine mvp with the figure four leglock. he definitely needs a submission move (like angle, shamrock, benoit, etc.) to make him seem like an all-around type of wrestler.

Phreek
02-16-2008, 10:19 PM
I'd like to see Jeff Hardy with a new finisher. The Swanton Bomb just doesn't cut it for me. I don't see it as being all that "high-risk." It's a move you can easily pull off just by standing on the mat. I think a nice backflip off the top ropes into a DDT would suit him nicely. Can't remember what that's called, at the moment.

I'd also like to see Kane use something other than the chokeslam. I thought a finisher was supposed to be somewhat unique. Who else uses a chokeslam? Undertaker, Khali, Big Show, and I'm sure Big Fatty V could pull one off. I'd like to see Kane use some type of move that'd just drill his opponent into the mat.

Gus
02-16-2008, 10:58 PM
I think CM Punk or Cody Rhodes need a new finisher, something along the lines of going for a stalling suplex, but then making their opponent fall face down, like a DDT, it looks cool, if any of you have Smackdown vs RAW 2007/2008, i think its called Facebuster 1, i think it would be a good, quick, impactful finisher for Punk, or it could even be used by Chavo Guerrero, its better than his brainbuster. Someone else who i think needs a new finisher is Batista, wow, a powerbomb, and half the time, he cant even get them up all the way, like this friday agianst MVP, he needs something else...

ChosenOne
02-17-2008, 02:46 PM
MVP, no doubt.

Seriously, being trained by Chris Benoit, I'd assume he could think of something better than the playmaker. He needs some sort of spot move, maybe something like a fisherman's suplex off the top rope?

"RAVEN"
02-17-2008, 05:52 PM
I think the 619 needs to go. it's too predictable of a move, and it leads into an even less effective finisher.

I think the way Edge sets up for the spear makes it an effective finisher. Although it's not all about set up. The way he hit it on Rey at the Royal Rumble was one of his better spears. Next to spearing Hardy while hanging onto the belt.

BeNo29
03-02-2008, 02:37 AM
Edge definetly needs a new finisher, c'mon the spear suits a big built guy like a Goldberg, Lashly, Rhino etc but Edge isnt a powerhouse like them so in reality it shouldnt have the same or more affect. Edgecution was good so he should use that again or get a new one. That Edgucator submission didnt suit him in my opinion as he isnt the type of wrestler to do submissions and work on ppls legs. Snitsky definetly needs an original power finisher or soon hes career will be over. MVP im sure he will have a new one soon because he still is pretty new. Kane needs something different if he wants a push

Evan Snow-Wolf
03-02-2008, 11:32 PM
Mick Foley because I have taken a Mandible claw. He needs a move like the frog splash..

Mick Foley in the air is the organic equivalent to a lead balloon. I agree that the Mandible Claw is not good really at all. Cornette's idea for it made it cute for Mankind's angle, but got stale fast.

Actually, there is nothing wrong with Cactus Jack's Double Arm DDT, honestly. I think that's a great finisher. Other than the fact that everyone and their mother kicks out of it.

wlannon
03-03-2008, 12:54 AM
I'd like to see Jeff Hardy get a submission finisher. Something like the texas cloverleaf Dean Malenko used to use would be good for him.

If they want to push MVP into the main event sometime soon, they need to give him something new. that one he has now just looks weak.

relik
03-03-2008, 04:15 PM
I'd like to see Jeff Hardy get a submission finisher. Something like the texas cloverleaf Dean Malenko used to use would be good for him.

If they want to push MVP into the main event sometime soon, they need to give him something new. that one he has now just looks weak.

Jeff Hardy had one in TNA I think it was called the Spine Bind. He used it once since his redebut to WWE. I would actually like to see it more.

Robonoshow
03-04-2008, 03:46 AM
Jeff Hardy had one in TNA I think it was called the Spine Bind. He used it once since his redebut to WWE. I would actually like to see it more.

Actually it was called the Spine Line (Which is a cloverleaf with an armlock) but its not a well known move so it doesn't matter. Yeah i would like him to use that move again as well because it looked cool and very effective as well. Also i think that they need to give Kane a new finisher because the undertaker and big show use it as well and they can't really change them. But then again then there wouldn't really be a double chokeslam anymore but still.

tenaciousterry
03-04-2008, 08:26 PM
the miz his finisher is good but need something else i see it as a signature move instead of a finisher but it is better than the one he had before

Dr. Thunder
03-04-2008, 09:40 PM
MVP needs something like a halo neckbreacker( a swinging neckbreaker off the top rope) and Edge needs to use the top rope DDT. His spear is good, but not much impact. i think the miz should use the fameasser. Jeff Hardy, I think is perfectly fine. Umage needs a splash and the throw up samoan drop as his finisher, not the stupid ass spike.

ECWildsider
03-05-2008, 07:17 PM
Triple H! After all of these years almost all of the older wrestlers have picked up a few new moves. Micheals uses a new variation of the Figure 4, Undertaker is choking people out and other various submissions, but Triple H has stayed with that Pedigree. He needs a submission move to add a new level of feriousity.

Lyez. D
03-06-2008, 12:04 AM
Triple H! After all of these years almost all of the older wrestlers have picked up a few new moves. Micheals uses a new variation of the Figure 4, Undertaker is choking people out and other various submissions, but Triple H has stayed with that Pedigree. He needs a submission move to add a new level of feriousity.

Well Triple H did the Indian Deathlock while he was in Evolution a couple of times and it looked painful. Triple H doesn't look like the type that would benefit from having a new submission finishing move.

As for my input to this thread again, I think that The Miz does need a new finishing move. The reality check looks as if it could be botched easily and it doesn't look effective. The Miz looks like he'd be suited with the Fameasser/Rocker Dropper as someone said previously.

pdiggins
03-06-2008, 10:02 AM
the one problem i see with alot of the moves people are saying. is that they are moves they did in the indy circuit. people will do anything in the indies cause they want to be seen. in wwe they have to protect themselves and others alot more. thats why there is no more piledrivers, 450s, etc... in wwe anymore.

the finishers they are gonna be able to use are finishers that past superstars have used, like a torture rack. alot of the finishers people dont like also involve guys not knowing how to sell them properly. like punk and the GTS, half the guys in the back really dont sell it like they should. such as kenny, i think he is great and in matches with cm punk he sold the move perfectly. unlike guys who stand there and make punk really try and bring the knee all the way up to their face.

the main thing i would worry about is why certain people have multiple finishers, such as batista & jericho. like jerichos code breaker would be perfect for a guy like elijah burke. give him the expirence into the corner and when he turns around double falling knee to the face. i think right now a guy like shelton is in a good place to become a very good submission superstar. give him something new and fresh and let him become a suplexing submission machine like benoit.

I_Like_All_Wrestling
03-06-2008, 03:15 PM
Personally I think CM Punk needs a new finisher. He's a great wrestler with a unique look and is over with the fans but the "GTS" just looks like shit. I understand that dropping a guy on your knees from above your head is supposed to put them out of commission but to me it looks bad and doesn't fits Punks persona. I think he needs a new "fast" finisher, and I also think he should have a secondary submission finisher.

Nick_09
03-07-2008, 09:58 PM
i think the great khali should get a new finisher, his vice grip is a sucky submission finisher move and really unrealistic. i mean c'mon now, if you got smash like that just elbow him right at the nut lol

klunderbunker
03-07-2008, 09:59 PM
After smackdown tonight I have to go with MVP. He went for the playmaker on batista and I was thinking that it would just look completely weak. Maybe some kind of suplex move?

kingrko
06-25-2008, 12:25 AM
MVP, plain and simple. He needs that playmaker/overdrive tossed out the window. Maybe a top rope fame-asser would be more to his persona, or some kind've DDT variation. no stupid neck breaker variation, we see too many of those! For the DDT, I'd give him that "snap" DDT Lita did. That move was sick! Also CM Punk either needs to find a way to pull of that GTS better, go back to the Anaconda Vice, or simply have the superkick as his finisher. That knee to the face in the corner may even work.

wrestlingfanart
06-25-2008, 05:01 PM
I agree with others here that CM Punk should once again use the "Anaconda Vice" as a finisher. There is a lack of submission holds in wrestling these days. With the popularity of MMA, I would think that submission finishers would work well in pro-wrestling again.

As far as Kennedy is concerned, I would have him borrow a move from his idol Stone Cold Steve Austin. I would like to see Kennedy use the "Stunner" as a finisher. That being said, I do like the "Mic Check" as his finish. I just like a "Stunner" better. It's time for a WWE wrestler to use that move again, and there is no one more appropriate than Kennedy to pay tribute to his idol by using Austin's finisher.

punk18
06-26-2008, 07:35 PM
I think punk really needs to bring back the vice or the pepsi plunge. Maybe he could have the vice as a finisher and the plunge as a signature move. MVP needs a new finisher

HBKRULES89
06-26-2008, 08:03 PM
I think Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Kennedy......... KENNEDY!, needs a new finisher. He has power and needs a good submission finisher or a different kind of DDT type move. Maybe a double arm DDT like mick foley used. I am not a fan of the Mic Check.

I would also like to see Rey Mysterio get a new one. He is now on Raw and is apparently a main eventer. So he needs a more powerful move. I know 619 is who he is but change it please!

Paul Revere
06-26-2008, 09:15 PM
MVP, hands down. He has got everything else, but his finisher is terrible and takes forever to set up and execute. I think the boot in the corner and a good submission finisher would do him just fine. I see him as the kind of guy that he puts the hold on and you just know it's over.

klunderbunker
06-26-2008, 09:18 PM
I think Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Kennedy......... KENNEDY!, needs a new finisher. He has power and needs a good submission finisher or a different kind of DDT type move. Maybe a double arm DDT like mick foley used. I am not a fan of the Mic Check.

I would also like to see Rey Mysterio get a new one. He is now on Raw and is apparently a main eventer. So he needs a more powerful move. I know 619 is who he is but change it please!

Definately agree on the 619. It's a great set up move for something, but Rey just doesn't have the size to do much. He's never been an off the top rope kind of guy either. I kind of liked the springboard legdrop he did for awhile.

As for Kennedy, I'm split on it. I'm not huge on the Mic Check, but it's better than nothing I guess. My main issue with Kennedy is that he's changed finishers time and tiem again, and now he's finally sticking with something. For now I think we're stuck with it. As for another person that needs a new one, I'd go with Kozlov. His offense is great, very high impact all over the place, but his finisher is a weak looking reverse DDT. It's like Umaga using all those moves he has, then finishing with a Spike. Just a letdown.

chasingamy
06-29-2008, 06:48 AM
As for another person that needs a new one, I'd go with Kozlov. His offense is great, very high impact all over the place, but his finisher is a weak looking reverse DDT.
To be honest, I'm not sure Kozlov's settled on a finisher just yet. He's used three different ones in his short stint. In his very first match, he used a backbreaker rack but quickly abandoned that for the scoop reverse DDT. Recently he's used the battering ram on his opponents in mid-air for the win, and the battering ram (glorified headbutt) looks weaker than the scoop reverse DDT. Plus that move's not going to come in play against bigger opponents that don't leave their feet. Personally, I like the backbreaker rack...it's sick looking and no one else is using anything like that at the moment.

tehblogger
06-29-2008, 09:17 AM
Actually, I think the chap most in need of a new finisher is Edge. Both the spear and Edgecution are good-looking moves - particularly the spear - but neither of them are really "put a guy away forever" moves. The other problem with the spear is that against quality opposition, Edge always seems to need two spears, when one makes for better watching. Two is anticlimactic. I'd love to see Edge have a finisher like Orton's RKO or Taker's Tombstone Piledriver, one that nobody ever kicks out of...well, hardly ever :) Which is the fun.

But that's just a personal preference. The obvious guy really, desperately, so badly in need of a finisher is MVP. I'm not even sure he has one at the moment. If he does, it sucks. The lack of a proper finisher, apart from kicking people in the head, invariably makes his matches anticlimactic. Somebody has to fix that.

shaunbaby
06-29-2008, 01:04 PM
MVP definetly needs a new finisher, he has made the playmaker look powerful from time to time, but i cant remember anyone that has gotten to the top with a recycled move.

I think MR Kennedy needs another finisher, or at least try and make the Mic Check look painful, if he hit it like the wave of the future(al a KAZ) it would be a good move to end with.

with Edge's spear, i think its need to be a set up to a finisher, like goldberg's, or have it as a secondary finisher and make his Edgecution a match winner.

John Cena needs to, either drop his oppenent on thier shoulders, when he does the FU or make it spilt legged (fireman's carry to taka michinoku driver), because a fireman's carry slam does like a weak move for such a powerful wrestler.

also have C.M Punk do the Anaconda vice as his main finisher and have the GTS(as it doesnt look very powerful) used how Chris Benoit would use the diving headbutt.(would use it as a signature move, and sometimes to finish someone, maybe a lesser star)

Mr Wrestlemania
06-30-2008, 10:49 AM
Shelton's T-Bone Suplex looks like a standard move that someone like Tazz or Chris Benoit would've used in the openings of their matches. That being said at least it looks like COULD be effective, Umaga's Samoan Spike just looks like his drunk friend dared him to do it and when he did, his opponent sold it. Thus the birth of one of the worst moves in wrestling, second only to The Great Khali's brain chop. Also I agree with the people who dug Punk using the Anaconda Vise, because it was a submission and pretty dope, but even when he did that sometimes it looked like he took too long to lock it in. I wouldn't have it as his finisher but I'd like to see him break it out every once in a while.

justinsayne
06-30-2008, 11:55 AM
Shelton's T-Bone Suplex looks like a standard move that someone like Tazz or Chris Benoit would've used in the openings of their matches. That being said at least it looks like COULD be effective, Umaga's Samoan Spike just looks like his drunk friend dared him to do it and when he did, his opponent sold it. Thus the birth of one of the worst moves in wrestling, second only to The Great Khali's brain chop. Also I agree with the people who dug Punk using the Anaconda Vise, because it was a submission and pretty dope, but even when he did that sometimes it looked like he took too long to lock it in. I wouldn't have it as his finisher but I'd like to see him break it out every once in a while.

The Samoan Spike is probably one of the most realistic finishes in WWE right now, seriously if someone was to heavily tape their thumb the way Umaga does, and then jab it into your throat with the amount of force he does, they would cause serious fucking damage to you, if someone did that to you in a real fight you'd be fucking done

Mr Wrestlemania
06-30-2008, 12:56 PM
The Samoan Spike is probably one of the most realistic finishes in WWE right now, seriously if someone was to heavily tape their thumb the way Umaga does, and then jab it into your throat with the amount of force he does, they would cause serious fucking damage to you, if someone did that to you in a real fight you'd be fucking done

Riiiight. If he casted his finger and jabbed it into my throat he'd wreck my shit, but I didn't come into this thread subbing finishers with ones that are more realistic (with the exception of the comment I made about Shelton's. I really just don't think that should be a finisher.), I'm really just talking about the style. I think it looks retarded, especially when the camera angle is crap, or when he doesn't do it as well as usual and you can openly see Umaga just slap his wrist across the top of the guys chest.

TheOneBigWill
06-30-2008, 01:09 PM
Riiiight. If he casted his finger and jabbed it into my throat he'd wreck my shit, but I didn't come into this thread subbing finishers with ones that are more realistic (with the exception of the comment I made about Shelton's. I really just don't think that should be a finisher.), I'm really just talking about the style. I think it looks retarded, especially when the camera angle is crap, or when he doesn't do it as well as usual and you can openly see Umaga just slap his wrist across the top of the guys chest.

Then you need to understand that type of move fits Umaga's style the best. What do you expect the guy to do? A hurricanrana? I mean, the only thing he has other than the Samoan Spike is the spinning Rockbottom looking move. While thats a great move as well, I'm siding with Justin in seeing the Spike as a great move for someone like Umaga.

If you want style, then watch someone like Rey Mysterio, The Rock, or Scottie Too Hotty.. because they take forever to hit their finisher, but when they do, it looks "amazing."

If you want a finisher that fits, then Umaga's current is best he has or likely will have.

Paul Burchill: While he did upgrade to the Regal-like neckbreaker, I still think he needs to branch out on his own and find something that noone else is currently using. He'll never standout, if all hes doing is repeating moves that weren't that big to begin with.

Cody Rhodes: Now that hes with Ted Dibiase, he needs to upgrade that D.D.T. to something a little more powerful. If Rhodes were to face anyone of big importance, they'd laugh their ass off at Rhodes trying to put them away with a D.D.T.

Mr Wrestlemania
06-30-2008, 01:14 PM
Then you need to understand that type of move fits Umaga's style the best. What do you expect the guy to do? A hurricanrana? I mean, the only thing he has other than the Samoan Spike is the spinning Rockbottom looking move. While thats a great move as well, I'm siding with Justin in seeing the Spike as a great move for someone like Umaga.

If you want style, then watch someone like Rey Mysterio, The Rock, or Scottie Too Hotty.. because they take forever to hit their finisher, but when they do, it looks "amazing."

If you want a finisher that fits, then Umaga's current is best he has or likely will have.

Paul Burchill: While he did upgrade to the Regal-like neckbreaker, I still think he needs to branch out on his own and find something that noone else is currently using. He'll never standout, if all hes doing is repeating moves that weren't that big to begin with.

Cody Rhodes: Now that hes with Ted Dibiase, he needs to upgrade that D.D.T. to something a little more powerful. If Rhodes were to face anyone of big importance, they'd laugh their ass off at Rhodes trying to put them away with a D.D.T.

Just because I'm talking about style doesn't mean I expect Umaga to do some ridiculous high spot. That Black Hole Slam that he does is pretty cool, and I could've seen that as his finisher. It's just when I see him in a match tossing his opponent around and using his large build as a weapon during the entire match, I expect his finisher to be the same. Something that can be seen as him using his strength and weight to put the guy away. Instead he sticks his tongue out and stabs him in the neck with his thumb. Just because it's different doesn't necessarily mean it was the best choice.

TheOneBigWill
06-30-2008, 01:41 PM
Just because I'm talking about style doesn't mean I expect Umaga to do some ridiculous high spot. That Black Hole Slam that he does is pretty cool, and I could've seen that as his finisher. It's just when I see him in a match tossing his opponent around and using his large build as a weapon during the entire match, I expect his finisher to be the same. Something that can be seen as him using his strength and weight to put the guy away. Instead he sticks his tongue out and stabs him in the neck with his thumb. Just because it's different doesn't necessarily mean it was the best choice.

That IS him using his weight to his advantage. Do you think Colin Delaney or Rey Mysterio could win a match by jabbing their thumb in a guy's throat? No. Why? Because they don't have 300-400lbs. behind that thumb, in Samoan form coming for your neck. Umaga is just fine, you leave him alone.

Go pick on The Great Khali. While the Brain chop is honestly just the same as the Samoan Spike in many ways. (both have great effects when coming from a large athlete) The fact is, Khali is the type of guy who needs a chokeslam. His double handed chokeslam is fine and all, but the chokeslam overall is just outdone and over used.

Khali would possibly kill someone if he used a Powerbomb, or even a Last Ride.

DrFeelgood624
06-30-2008, 03:32 PM
Mr. Kennedy needs a new finisher for sure, the Mic-Check is horrible. I think he should do a Razor/Outsider's Edge like Scott Hall, its an awesome finisher that no one in my memory has done since Scott Hall, and I guess he could keep the Mic-Check to do on bigger opponents.

The Miz needs a new finisher too, he'll never be a singles star with a knee to the head and a neck breaker.(aka Reality Check).Maybe after he hits his signature clothesline in the corner,he could grab his opponent's head and use the turnbuckle for a Tornado DDT.

Tastycles
06-30-2008, 06:19 PM
I really can't get on board with the Samoan spike, I don't get it. Is the thing he wears on his hand supposed to increase the impact? Either way, it doesn't really work. That being said, I think he will start using the slam where he spins his opponent around his body.

I like Go to sleep, but it keeps looking clumsy because people go on their feet for too long, it just looks like a knee to the face. The Mic check is another that seems to take forever to lock in and ends up looking clumsy.

phat_inallthegoodplaces
07-01-2008, 11:16 AM
kane needs a new finisher. the same old chokeslam over and over again isn't too exciting anymore. especially when other wrestlers break the hold, then he grabs their throat again, then they break the hold, he grabs 'em again, another break.... you get the point.

Mr Wrestlemania
07-01-2008, 01:24 PM
That IS him using his weight to his advantage. Do you think Colin Delaney or Rey Mysterio could win a match by jabbing their thumb in a guy's throat? No. Why? Because they don't have 300-400lbs. behind that thumb, in Samoan form coming for your neck. Umaga is just fine, you leave him alone.

Go pick on The Great Khali. While the Brain chop is honestly just the same as the Samoan Spike in many ways. (both have great effects when coming from a large athlete) The fact is, Khali is the type of guy who needs a chokeslam. His double handed chokeslam is fine and all, but the chokeslam overall is just outdone and over used.

Khali would possibly kill someone if he used a Powerbomb, or even a Last Ride.

I apologize for picking on Youmanga's finisher lol That being said, someone like Khali I think is so large and powerful that in order to avoid botching a move and legitimately hurting someone, he should probably use a submission finisher. I wouldn't mind seeing that head vice as it being that his hands are so large and anyone looking at him knows he's powerful enough to make it work.

MasterDebator
07-02-2008, 08:00 AM
Cody Rhodes. The DDT is so plain and unoriginal. It's nice to use it during a match but as a finisher? Randy Orton uses a DDT with his opponents legs suspended from the middle ropes! How are we supposed to buy a DDT from Rhodes as a lights out maneuver.

I also feel like Kennedy needs a new finisher, or atleast a submission move. The Mic Check is ok but I'd rather see that as his set-up move. Perhaps Kennedy could start using the sharpshooter or some variation of the Rings of Saturn. Either way, Kennedy's move set is growing stale and the mic check is simply uninspiring.

mcflyboy
07-02-2008, 12:54 PM
First on my list is punk's GTS, but since that has been mentioned already I won't say any more about it. Second, and I think I mentioned this in another thread (not sure where), but Burchill's "curb stomp" needs to go. The set up is awkward, and because of that awkwardness, it doesn't really look successful half the time. And although I know we need to suspend reality to some extent in wrestling matches, it would be really easy to escape getting set up in that move. The only reason you wouldn't be able to would be if you were already down for the count, in which case a finishing move wouldn't be necessary.

Although on the other hand, if you are a wrestler who is not getting pushed and is likely to only be a jobber for a while, I guess your finishing move is not really that important overall.

TM
07-05-2008, 01:26 AM
I think Rey Mysterio needs a new finisher. the 619 and the West Coast pop arent impressive to me. He should be going off the corner rope into a 450 or something that looks luchador. or a move he can hit quickly as a reversal. He is a small guy, and small guys need to be able to hit reversals on their much larger opponents. His finishers now are almost comical as opposed to impressive.

Mickie James and her Mick Kick is a downer. Every time I hear Mick Kick, i think of the Chic Kick of Trish Stratus. I know she started using the move against Trish in their feud, but that was years ago, and its time for her to have a more impressive/unique move. If shes as good as WWE thinks she is, give her something explosive that she can pull of in a matter of seconds against much larger opponents (Beth Phoenix).

Joepjr92
07-06-2008, 08:14 AM
Paul Burchill. At least back during his pirate gimmick he was able to use the C4, which is an awesome finisher. Now he has that curb stomp and a reverse neckbreaker. The curb stomp seems like it needs an exact setup and the reverse neckbreaker is too common. He should go back to using his C4

TheOneBigWill
07-06-2008, 10:37 AM
Lance Cade: While it was only recent that he even was allowed to show what his finisher even was. (The sitout powerbomb, of sorts) The fact is if hes going to become something moderately big, hes gonna need a more impactful move than that.

His current sitout powerbomb seems like what could be a great counter from a running attack, or even a very good set-up to a top rope move. But its not worthy of being a finisher.

I believe since Lance Cade is on this "anti-Shawn Michaels" ordeal.. perhaps he should attempt adapting a Superkick thats very similar to H.B.K., but if at all possible, somehow alter it. I know what most of you are thinking.. "How the hell do you alter a Superkick?" But its honestly rather easy..

H.B.K. goes to the counter, hops out and delivers. Cade could do something similar, only instead of hopping out and delivering, he could catch you low when you think hes going for the original kick, by taking out your shin (ala Foley's 'shin music') then Cade could blast you suddenly with a straight standing Superkick.

He could even call it the "De-Cade." It could symbolize how far hes come, as hes no longer the student.. but instead trying to become the master.

Darkshot77
07-24-2008, 10:50 PM
Brian Kendrick
With a new heel gimick comes the need for a new move, the shiranui has gotten old afrer a while and right now it dosent make much sense. Now if he could do it standing that would be cool. Or he could set it up and drop it into a DDT. Variations would be nice but the standered move dosent impress me anymore

J.R Walker
07-25-2008, 10:24 AM
MVP- He needs something much more powerful looking than the Playmaker. Maybe a good submission move would fit his style. But I think he could use something with much more impact like variation of the kicks he uses all of the time.

CM Punk- The GTS is a very pretty move but I never did like the idea of people having finishers that can't reasonably be used on everyone. It sort of reminds me of The Hurricane's Choke Slam. The Anaconda Vice was pretty impressive back in the day and he should go back to it.

Cryme Tyme- Exactly what are thier finishers? I have no clue. Shad is one of the most underused big men in the WWE today. He is comparble in size to both Snitzky and Kane so maybe he should do like a power bomb or slam. JTG on the otherhand should use that crazy DDT he used the other night on Raw. That was pretty impressive.

Santino- One of the things that could really help santino's credibility is a believable finisher. Just imagine the heat he could get if he had a submission finisher and could talk on the mic while doing it lol

Lance Cade - He did a move that sort of looked like Edge's old finisher on Monday. While it was pretty decent I agree with the other poster who said he should just do a super kick. That would be interesting!

Ken Starrcade
07-28-2008, 12:45 AM
Basically what I'm saying is, none of these guys need fancy new finishers, and reading this thread you would be denying a huge number of moves to the other wrestlers (because you can't use another wrestler's finisher as an ordinary spot in your match).

If the wrestler is over, and his finisher is a front facelock, the fans will go crazy for it.

MisterRob
07-28-2008, 02:09 AM
Paul Burchill, John Morrison and the Miz ALL need new finishers. They all have horrible finishers in my opinion. Mr. Kennedy also needs a new finisher, that seems to be a big problem for him.. he's got the character, he's got the charisma, he's got the ability to cut promos, he's got the look, but he's never had a really good finisher. The senton bomb he can no longer use because of Jeff Hardy, and I think he needed a different finisher anyways back then. The Green Bay Plunge was great, but I'm guessing it was too dangerous a move? His new finisher I don't like at all, much like I hate Jeff Jarrett's finisher which is basically the same but reversed. He needs something that stands out.

Dead Kennedy
07-30-2008, 10:14 AM
Kozlov's headbutt finisher has got to go. Man, it's lamer than the Fingerpoke of Doom. Give him a powerbomb of some sort, or the Mexican Stretch Buster (which would probably cause the crowd to chant "TNA!") .

Cena also needs a new finisher. He renames the Death Valley Driver/Fisherman's Carry and all of a sudden it's more damaging than a stunner? Gimme a break. I'd also like it if they dropped the STFU, because pushing Cena as a submission wrestler is just pure disrespect to technical wrestling.

Dead Kennedy
07-30-2008, 11:00 AM
But it just looks crap. It just doesn't look like a knockout move, and it doesn't make any noise or anything. I liked it when he did it to opponents in mid-air, but just colliding into them has no impact and just leaves me thinking "what was that?"

GodCompleX
07-30-2008, 12:27 PM
Paul Burchill's finisher is horrible and his opponent would have to already be KO'd in order for him to pull it off effectively. He'd be better off using a Claw hold with his gloved hand or Kenzo Suzuki's old Rising Sun finisher(Clawhold STO).

MVP definitely needs one. Maybe a reverse shining wizard.

48/7
07-30-2008, 03:14 PM
I could see MVP using something like a crossface chickenwing. That move would suck to be put in. I really just don't like his playmaker..

As much as I hate Cena's fireman carry, he doesn't need a new finisher. The casual audience loves his finisher! It's like the leg drop, stupid, but it's been made to be unbeatable.

ecw4life
07-30-2008, 09:43 PM
Kevin Thorn- Its called a Crucifixition and will fit well with his vampire gimmick. HE Stands on the turnbuckle with his opponent. the opponent is behind him and facing other way. Then Kevin grabs arms. then the opponent looks like he is on a cross. Kevin steps down off the turnbuckle while heeving his opponent over his shoulder while the opponent goes crashing into a table.

Dark Blaze
07-31-2008, 09:58 AM
Kevin Thorn- Its called a Crucifixition and will fit well with his vampire gimmick. HE Stands on the turnbuckle with his opponent. the opponent is behind him and facing other way. Then Kevin grabs arms. then the opponent looks like he is on a cross. Kevin steps down off the turnbuckle while heeving his opponent over his shoulder while the opponent goes crashing into a table.

Didn't Kevin Thorn already use that finisher? And when will we ever see him for him to use it again?

Anyway, like many have mentioned, MVP definitely needs a new finisher, the Playmaker just has to go and depends way too much on the opponent making it look good which sometimes does not go as planned, don't know what he could use, I love the big boot he uses, though I think he overuses it sometimes in matches but it's simple and effective.

The Earl
07-31-2008, 02:47 PM
I think specific finishers are great for video games, but they really take away from the match itself. Think about it. Most WWE/TNA matches are booked as If the only was to pin your opponent is with your specific finisher. If that's the case, then what the hell is the point of going for pins earlier in the match. When a wrestler hits a big move, but it's not the finisher, does he ever get the 3 count? No. The trend toward finishers actually has killed the drama of the match. What fan really beleives Matt Hardy is going to actually get the 3 count after the Side Effect?

And I saw a match where Umaga did a top rope Superfly splash on his opponent, got a two count, and then later in the match got the pin with the thumb of doom. That's just stupid. How in the hell does a thumb poke do more damage than a 350 pound man doing a top rope splash? I think that more matches need to be decided by moves other than the specific finishing move. It would only add to the drama of the match itself.

Pickle
07-31-2008, 10:17 PM
Kozlov's headbutt finisher has got to go.


No. Absolutely not! At least not yet anyway. He can't abandon the Headbutt Of Death until he faces a Samoan. Super headbutting an unheadbuttable Samoan would cause a second big bang to occur between the heads of the two behemoths, creating a new universe where wrestling sucks slightly less.

Also, I agree with whoever said Santino should develop a submission finisher during which he could talk smack and crack jokes. It makes sense to find a way that he can incorporate more talking into his matches, considering it is his biggest strentgh.

klunderbunker
08-05-2008, 09:48 PM
After last night, Chris Jericho needs a new one. Punk was in the Walls of Jericho for about 10-15 seconds and didn't tap. What kind of an excuse of a hold is that? It doesn't even have the angle or bridge that the Liontamer do as it's now just a Boston Crab, not the elevated kind that it used to be. Jericho needs to move to the Codebreaker full time. It's quick, it's devastating and it could be used to beat a face. No legit face is going to tap out to a simple Boston Crab, making it completely unbelieveable as a hell finishing move.

TheOneBigWill
08-07-2008, 11:03 AM
After last night, Chris Jericho needs a new one. Punk was in the Walls of Jericho for about 10-15 seconds and didn't tap. What kind of an excuse of a hold is that? It doesn't even have the angle or bridge that the Liontamer do as it's now just a Boston Crab, not the elevated kind that it used to be.

Jericho actually has gone back to the original "Liontamer" finishing submission hold. He only uses it "boston-crab-like" when he's not going to have anyone tap out.

I think that's stupid, as it easily gives away when he will and won't win the match via that hold.. but overall, he actually has went back to the Liontamer as his main submission finisher. I think he only had Punk in a "crab" because he wasn't designed to win with it. Personally, I think he could've put him in the Tamer version, only for J.B.L. to "just barely" make the save for Punk.. it would've created more crowd reaction than "Oh, it's just the crab he won't win".

Jericho needs to move to the Codebreaker full time. It's quick, it's devastating and it could be used to beat a face. No legit face is going to tap out to a simple Boston Crab, making it completely unbelieveable as a hell finishing move.

The Codebreaker was his "face" finishing move, so I'm unsure if he could still use it as a "heel" move as well. Granted I wouldn't see why not, and it's definately a move that could come from out of nowhere.. hell, it countered Sweet Chin Music, and that move isn't really the type of move that's easily countered INTO.

badboyman
08-07-2008, 01:57 PM
Jeff hardy needs to lose the twist of fate as it damages matt hardy finisher credibility. As he often goes for the swanton bomb after it. So maybe he should stick the Swanton but do a pre finisher instad of a worldwide known finisher. Something like that front suplex he does.

jayo133
08-07-2008, 02:16 PM
i think CM punk needs a new finisher. let him use his little pedigree from the top rope (especially since trips is on smackdown now). that, or how bout letting him use everyone elses finisher. it's something they have never done but i would love to see someone win every match by using their own finisher against them. this is probably more fitting for a heel since it can come across as more cocky and arrogant, but it could show the versatility and athleticism of someone like punk to beat someone with their own move.

48/7
08-07-2008, 02:19 PM
Jayo133, I like your idea, but if Punk were feuding with JBL or Batista, how do you expect him do the moves? Would a clothesline from hell coming from Indy Punk be believable? I don't think so.. I'd love to see him Batista bomb Big Dave. Ha!

I think Punk needs to drop the GTS.. He really does.. Unless he went heel and put a steel plate in his knee pad. But, it's simple.. Have him go back to using the vice..

jayo133
08-07-2008, 02:51 PM
-lol, yeah i guess it would be a lil akward to have punk giving the undertaker a tombstone, maybe its not for him, but at least you get the idea. and yeah, the vice does need to make a return, why did he stop using it in the first place.
-that bourne guy DEFINATELY needs a new finisher, that shooting star press of his is just plain ugly. (yes, that was a joke people)
-and I like the idea of Santino with some kind of submission type hold that allows him to talk some smack. surely he has some MMA move up his sleeve.

bunnyman1985
08-07-2008, 03:36 PM
theres loads of wrestlers that need new finishing moves.
john cena= fu its just a death valley driver (it was perry saturn (rememeber him) move in wcw apart from the rings of saturn)
vlad kozlov= a headbutt. come on please!!!!
cody rhodes= a ddt. maybe in the jake roberts era yeah but not now
ex wwe star chris masters= a full nelson

we need like a good move like something original
like umaga could do like a vader bomb off the second rope or even mark henry could do that
an william regal used to do the regal stretch way before john cena stole it to become the stfu

48/7
08-07-2008, 03:53 PM
While I do not like the FU, it can not be changed. The casual audience believes it. When Cena hits an FU, it's over. It's really just a glorified fireman's carry, but then again, Hogan finised everything with a leg drop.

And yes, of course, Cody needs a new finisher. If he is feuding with Batista and Cena, can you really expect ether of them to fall to a ddt? I think he should use a Crossface Chickenwing. Awesome move.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gLz5QCyLPo

Kozlov's headbutt works to show his strength. Not to mention he is beating SUper Crazy and Steven Richards. Big deal. Khali does a chop to the head.

tehblogger
08-10-2008, 08:00 AM
Festus needs a new one. What, he dances around the ring for a bit and then plonks his knees down on either side of the guy's body? Please. It just looks SO, SO FAKE, every, EVERY time.

Sean Valjean
08-10-2008, 08:31 AM
Paul Birchill. The curb stomp is okay, but is really more suited as a signature move than a real finisher. The twisted sister is kind of bland too. He needs something a bit more unique than a neckbreaker (albeit, a bit more impactfull one, but still nothing special).

dragondragon
08-10-2008, 01:12 PM
Paul Burchill. His curbstomp is weak.It should be a reverse indian deathlock surfboard with a stomp to the back of the head,but he just grabs the opponents hair and pulls their head a couple inches off the mat and stomps.It doesnt look good at all.And his other finisher,some sort of neckbreaker I think,is nothing special either.

leby_uk
08-10-2008, 03:04 PM
paul burchills curbstomp i quite like, i jsut think wrestlers cant like pull the move of to a better effect, For example the candian destroyer looks awsome coz its on wrestlers who can pull it off with him.

But a persons finisher who should change is MVPs kick thing, im not into
finishers being kicks its just boring and not that effect to be honest.

Just imagine a great wrestling match egtting finished by one simple kick :S

AFC1986
08-10-2008, 03:19 PM
I think that Cody Rhodes needs to change his finisher as most wrestlers on the WWE roster use the DDT as a regular move

Dead Kennedy
08-10-2008, 04:14 PM
Anyone with a DDT or Neckbreaker as a finisher seriously need to do something. Utilizing a neckbreaker ain't gonna put you over. Not everyone can have the People's Elbow, but geez, try to stand out a little eh? By the way, do WWE have any say in what people's movesets should be like or what finisher they should use?

FTS
08-10-2008, 04:36 PM
Kicks and Neckbreakers are better finishers than clotheslines. JBL's clothes line relies on someone way over selling. I think he should get some kind of powerbomb or slam.

On the same lines, Edge's spear is cool looking, but it is not a finisher. I like how it can come out of nowhere, but I would prefer it come out of nowhere to turn the tide of a match than end it. The Impaler is a cool variation of the DDT and could serve as a finisher.

DeadmanFan
08-11-2008, 11:45 AM
Vladimir Kozlov. The guy looks to have solid wrestling ability (although we'd need to see a match that actually lasts longer than five minutes to know what he's really capable of). But he needs a real finisher, that headbutt that he's been using just ain't gonna do it.